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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Walking with Jesus: A Holy Week Journey with Jeff Cavins
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Tudor Dixon
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon podcast on this Good Friday. And on Good Friday we are blessed to have Jeff Cavins with us. He is a biblical scholar and the creator of the Bible in a Year plan. Also the host of Daily Reflections with Jeff Cavins, one of the most popular sessions on the Hallow app. And you've got something new coming out that it we can download right now and kind of follow this Holy Week through the Hollow app, is that correct?
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Jeff Cavins
That's right. Well, it's good to be with you tutor. And yeah, it's going to be a powerful week. Jonathan Rumi, who most people know plays Jesus on the Chosen, is going to be shooting the, the crucifixion scenes in the Passion week coming up in just a little while from now with that given he, he's never been to the Holy Land before and we do the daily on Hallow together and he wanted to go to the Holy Land and he wanted to have me teach him to go through the actual walk with Jesus through from Palm Sunday all the way to the Resurrection and beyond. And so we did, we went over there and it was magnificent. And there was nobody there, there's not many pilgrims there. So we really had complete access to places like the Garden of Gethsemane, the Holy Sepulcher, the Tomb of Jesus, the Last Supper, everything. It was just really, really amazing. And so we put that together with Hallow and we launched it Monday this, the day after Palm Sunday. And now we're going every day through it. And the response has been incredible. And I think people are very interested because, I mean, this is the guy playing Jesus, the biggest role right now and on the big screen and, and I think they want to see his response to being there for the first time as a prep for the filming.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, and for a lot of us, you know, I haven't been there and I want to see it. I want my children to be able to see that. The goal obviously is to get there one day myself. But what I was reading about your trip and from your own experiences being over there is so much deeper than you can even imagine. You know, it's like when you go to these places that are so monumental in your life or in the history of your nation, you can kind of feel it in your bones. And I can't even imagine what it's like to be in the Holy Land to something so consequential for not only your life, but Your eternal life.
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Jeff Cavins
Exactly right. You know, it's like. I guess I would equate it to. Years ago, I liked listening to Phantom of the opera, the CD, back when they had CDs. And then I listened to it in the car all the time. And then I got to go to the. The Broadway production. And I was sitting there, and all of a sudden it happened right in front of me, the chandelier and everything. I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is so much different than. Than just listening to the cd, which is fine, and I got a lot of enjoyment out of it. But that's the way it is. When you go over there, you've heard all your life, perhaps these stories about Jesus or stories about Paul and Peter, Mary, the rest, the prophets. And then suddenly you're walking there. Like in one scene with Jonathan, we were right outside of Caiaphas's house. The high priest, where Jesus was, he was betrayed by. In the garden of Gethsemane. They brought him back up to Caiaphas's house. And this was the road that was Jesus last walk from the Last Supper down to the garden of Gethsemane. And he. And I sat down and I sprung it on him. I said, you're sitting on the stones that he walked on. And it hit him like, wow. And that's what happens, you know, of course, when you go over there. And we do realize that a lot of people, they can't make it make it over there. One of the reasons right now is because of the war. I was finishing a project in action, actually landed on October 7th and that morning and had to turn around three days later and come back. But a lot of people are not going to make it over there. So what we wanted to do is try to bring it to you in a way that it's not just the pictures, but we wanted to create the atmosphere for you to enter into that particular story.
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Tudor Dixon
And at a time when there has been kind of this resurgence of faith, and you see it, you see it in these articles or, oh, suddenly we're seeing that the. The amount of people that are dropping off is not happening anymore. It's kind of steady. And it seems like there's a push toward growing people in the faith in Christianity. And as I was preparing for this, I was thinking, you know, all these years I've. I've reflected on this weekend and what this means and. And I don't think. I think every year it changes. For me, it's kind of. Especially as a parent now, because I Was thinking about this this morning, and I'm like, do I talk about this as, like, you know, hey, happy Good Friday, or are you sad on Good Friday? But I was thinking about it, and I said to myself, you know, what a hero. What a hero's day. Because he knew. He didn't question it. He didn't say, you know, there's a way of getting out of this. He knew he had to do this, and he knew it was gonna be extremely painful. He knew it would be humiliating. All of the things that we avoid in life, right? Everything to a degree that could never possibly handle. And yet he walked into it in a glad way because he's our parent, you know, And I thought, as a parent, I see it differently because I'm like, so many years I've said to myself, what was it like for him to see his mother, to know that he was leaving her, to know that he would be separated and that. And it's just like us. When we are losing someone to death, we go. We're separated for a time. And for him, it was a separation for a time. But there was no hesitation because he would do anything for us. It's just so incredible for me as a parent to think I would do this for my kids, but how much more he will do for me.
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Jeff Cavins
Yeah. And I like what you said. You would do it for your kids, but the question is, would you do it for the rest of the kids out there? The answer is probably, hmm, I don't know about that. Or would you offer your kid for the sins of the world? Now you really get into that. That position of Mary having to walk through that. And, you know, when Jonathan and I were sitting on those steps and we were looking out at the ancient Temple Mount in the Garden of Gethsemane, and the path we were going to walk down, which after. After we spoke, he said, I gotta take my shoes off. I have to walk this. And he took his shoes off and his socks, and he walked all the way down, came and came back. And I. And I said to him. And this is on the heels of you said. And that is, he left the Last Supper. He went by Caiaphas's house on this ancient Roman road, and he was going to go down to the Garden of Gethsemane. He knew very well that One of the 12 was betraying him. Yet he kept walking. He knew very well that he'd be arrested and brought back to Caiaphas's house and put into that dungeon. And he kept walking. And the big Challenge for us on this particular series was, will we keep walking? Because you probably are going to be betrayed at some point in your life, and you're probably going to be denied at some point in your life or, you know, disrespected in some way. Would you still walk? Would you still take those steps of faith? And so the only way that you can really do it is if you. If you have him in you, if you are walking in Christ and Christ is in you and empowered by the love of the Holy Spirit. And that's really what Easter is about. It's the victory over death, hell in the grave, and it's allowing us to experience that same spirit that raised Christ from the dead. And that same spirit that raised Christ from the dead now fuels us in our daily jobs, in our family and our extended family, and politics, every single area. There's something different about you and there's something different about me. And that difference is the love of Christ in our life. And this week celebrates it in spades.
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Tudor Dixon
It's funny because from the perspective of politics, because politics has sort of gotten, like, seeped into every aspect of our lives and even our children's lives in ways that I had never seen when I was a kid. I think of that. This story in terms of what were the disciples thinking? Because I think they were still. Still in a political mindset. Even though their faith was very strong, they were still like, okay, this guy's going to be the leader. You know, this is the king. He's going to take over all these lands, and we're with him. We're with the King, not fully understanding what being with the King was, right? So I think. So from their perspective on this weekend, watching him be betrayed, what the emotions were, and I'm sure you walk through this, in this journey, what are the emotions of being at your highest high? You know, you're having this dinner with the King of Kings, and the feeling had to have been different than any other feeling. I can't even imagine it. Sitting with Jesus himself, you know, and learning from him and knowing that there is something so special, and then he gets betrayed. And. And Peter obviously is shocked because he's like, yeah, no, I don't know the guy, you know, and. But you can see all this from today's perspective and say, my goodness, yes, you would be so afraid because the law of the land, you know, thinking, okay, he's going to be the next king. He's going to take over. And then you're kind of like, whoa, in the. On The. In the natural, we got burned in the earthly sense. This didn't go the way we thought. It went the way Jesus was expecting, but they were kind of figuring it out as they went. The joy of Sunday had to have been incredible, but still there had to have been unease.
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Jeff Cavins
Yeah, boy, you put it perfectly. We should have brought you. You could have given commentary here. Because what you are saying, tutor, is exactly what we followed in that. We went down in the garden. Garden of Gethsemane. We experienced the betrayal. We were brought back up to Caiaphas's house and the place where Jesus was downstairs there in the. In that. That dungeon. You can hear outside right there. And if Peter says, man, I tell you, I don't know the man. Well, Jesus heard this.
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Tudor Dixon
Well, that gives me chills.
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Jeff Cavins
Yeah, you said it so well. And that is that Peter was on a high. They all were. And yet there was confusion. What's going on? And we've come in for the Passover. Things are looking a little uncertain. All of a sudden, Judas leaves the Last Supper early. They go down to the garden. The Romans come in, and Judas kisses him and betrays him. At that point, it's like, okay, what's going on? They're taking him away. Certainly there's got to be a way out of this. I mean, he's going to do some kind of miracle like we haven't ever seen before. And all their plans come crashing down as they take him. And of course, they whip him, they beat him, and they crucify him, and they put him in the tomb. And this. This attitude that people had, it was reflected in Luke 24 on the Emmaus Road. Afterwards, these two individuals are doing what? They're walking away from Jerusalem. Their heads are low. They're disappointed, their dreams are crushed. And as one preacher once said one time, you know, it's. It's Friday, but Sunday's coming, you know, in your life, it's Friday. Things don't look good. It's gloomy, cloudy. You're not sure about the future anymore. But Sunday's coming. And after the resurrection, you see what you were talking about. You still see this remnant of the disappointment because Peter was the leader. He had the keys to the kingdom, and he denied the Lord three times. And afterwards, there must have been that sheepish look of man. I wish I would have stuck in there. I'm so sorry, you know. And we see his heart reflect in that. He says, I'm going to go back fishing. He goes back up north to Galilee to fish. Now, if you understand how you become a disciple. The rabbis would invite someone to become a disciple by saying in Hebrew, come, follow me. And that's what he said to Peter. But now Peter's like saying, you know, I'm not the right guy. I think you're probably better choice. He goes back up to Galilee. And so Jonathan and I went back up to Galilee on the Sea of Galilee, and we went right to that place where Jesus shows up. And Peter is with some of the other disciples, fishing, because they're kind of going back, you know, And Jesus all of a sudden appears, and it's around a charcoal fire, just like at Caiaphas's house. Denied him around a charcoal fire. And then Jesus pulls Peter out and says, do you love me more than these? Says, Lord, you. Yeah, I love you. Feed my sheep again. Do you love me? Feed my sheep a third time. You love me. He gets upset, Lord, you know everything about me. You know I love you. Then feed my sheep. Tend my lambs. And then he ends that conversation with Peter. I can just. In the series, I put my hand on Jonathan's shoulder and tell him this. As I looked at him, I said, yeah, you fell, but the calling is still on your life. And I think that's good news for how many people who have failed in marriage, they failed in raising their children, at least feel that way. They feel like I'm left over. And in Jesus eyes, no, it's always a new beginning. And that's what Easter is. It's a new beginning. It's a new start in your marriage, in your relationship with people, in your hope for the future. So it's. Yeah, when you go there, it kind of comes alive. And when I brought Jonathan up there on the shores of the Sea of Galilee, you could see in his eyes, it was like.
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Tudor Dixon
I think about all of those things that you just said when you talk about how Peter felt and how he, he shied away from this and, and how much that's like us. You know what? When we read the Bible, it's, it is stories of earthly people who are people of faith. But we can continually fail, right? We continually fall back on what we know here because it's hard. And, and I think that the message, and maybe I'm wrong, but it feels like the message is, look, this is a journey and it's a hard journey and you, only you can keep bringing, pulling yourself back. But Jesus is there. You've got to keep seeking Him. He's never going to stop seeking you. He will never stop seeking you. But it is, it's hard because I think about all of the different factors, all of the different outside worldly pressures because they followed this man when people were going, oh my goodness, he's not talking about the law. He's going against what we learned. He's, he's not following the Old Testament. He's not following what Moses said. You know, this is, all of this stuff is different and we can't, we've got to get away from this guy. And then the disciples were like, no, there's something here. We're going to follow him. And then you go through the crucifixion, and you've got to be like, all of the worldly pressures of the people on the outside going, told you. Yep, told you he wasn't the Messiah. And then it now falls on you alone. When Jesus comes back and says, keep feeding my people, well, that's on you. You have to tell the story now. It is worldly. People going out with faith and with the Holy Spirit and changing hearts and minds. And that, to me, is so powerful, because that's you and me.
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Jeff Cavins
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You know, there's a text in the Bible that says hope deferred makes the heart sick. And in our lives, you know, you think back at all the times where you had great hope about something, and then something happened and hope was deferred, it didn't happen, and you feel sick about it, you know, And I think that the disciples probably felt that way when Jesus was put into the grave. And what was that walk home like, what was that like that day of, oh, my gosh, what has the last three years meant? You know, I'm gonna get that back. And. And they must have felt that way. But the. The. The resurrection from the dead overcomes all of this. And if. If people are living with, you know, this idea of a sickness in their heart, in their soul, because hope's been deferred, whether in a relationship or their children or work or whatever it might be, I think that resurrection renews all of this hope because, you know, our hope is not in man. You know, and our hope is not, as the psalmist says, not in chariots, and it's not in gold and silver or Bitcoin or anything else. Our hope is in God. And I love this because, you know, the Hebrew word, which is also the anthem for Israel, the national anthem, Hatikvah tikvah, is hope. The hope is that the hope that we have, we've been given in our heart. Hope is not a hope. So, you know, and it's not a projection of the future based on my limited power, my limited perspective, my limited insight and wisdom, but it's a look at the future based on his unlimited power and his unlimited vision and wisdom given to me because I'm in Christ. And so when I look at a problem in my life and I. And I think, oh, man, I'm just such a loser, you know, and is this happening again? And you can change that attitude. And you can say, lord, I'm going to hope in you. My hope is in you. My hope isn't in the market. You know, my hope. My hope certainly is not in politics necessarily. You know, and I think that's where a lot of people in our country are at right now, is that we have lived for a long time with hope in people. And the markers in our life, whether it be politics or Hollywood or whether it be the, you know, the news, these things people really relied on in. In the last five to 10 years, everything has been scrambled a bit, and people are like, wow, what do you know? What. What do we do? You know, I'll give you an example of that. Tutor. What was. A few years ago, Father Mike Schmitz and I put together the Bible in a Year podcast. And we did that. We did that. See, it was in 2020, and we were done by around October, January 1st of 21. We got a call from our producer and said, are you sitting down? And, yeah, you're number one. He said, number one what? Number one what? And he said, it's the number one podcast in America. What? We went on there to Apple and looked at it, and we had to determine real quickly why. Why? And we came to the conclusion it's not us. Had we been given that task of trying to do that, we wouldn't have done that. We would have tried to be funny or something, you know, But. But here's what the deal is. We believe the Holy Spirit did this. Why? Because everyone during the beginning of COVID they were lonely. They were without work. Many of them, they couldn't get out there. It was an awful time for a lot of people. And in the midst of it, it was like the Lord was saying, okay, I'm going to come to you and I'm going to renew your life and I'm going to give you a plan for living. And that's the only. That's the only conclusion we can really come to. And I think we're still in that to a degree. And so we have this. You know, we put out something like we did with Jonathan there. And my word, the response was incredible, just really incredible.
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Tudor Dixon
And access in a way that young people understand better than sitting down and doing the job on your own of reading the Bible. You know, it's like there's a new. A new way of reaching people. And that that was given to you, like this is how you're meant to do it. And I just. I think about what you said about hope and the need for Hope. And I think that's what we've seen in, in this country for years. And that's why that the. The environment, the political environment has become so toxic, because there's a blame of who, you know, whose fault is it and who. Where do we put place our hope? And there has been a decline in the past 10 years of people in the church. We now, like I said, we're seeing that steady off and, and that maybe even increasing a bit. And I believe that's because, you know, they. They went around and they talked to young people in this new generation and they said, you know, what do you need? And years ago, I was in a group where this woman said, we find that our students who are joining these different groups keep telling us that there. I want to be a part of something bigger. So I become an activist and I go out and I fight for a cause. And it's not a cause they believe in necessarily. It's something that they. They feel like they're a part of something bigger than themselves. And they said, you know, we're pushing them back to the church. There is a way to be a part of something bigger than yourself. They push them back to the church. And these young people have come in back to the church and even sometimes sought out Latin masses because they've said, you know, I want to really, really feel that closeness to God and that close that. That feeling of the scripture and feeling of God's word on me and how that changes my life. And you're talking about this pilgrimage being life changing. And I just think it's so neat to watch how one app has brought so many people, even if you were a churched person, it's brought unchurched, it's brought churched people. But bringing you to that closer relationship with God is just so critical to getting through all these things. And then I think, honestly, we wouldn't have this fear of, oh, my candidate's not here, my politician's not the one in what's going to happen. God's got this.
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Jeff Cavins
Yeah, I think you nailed it. I think you really nailed it when you talk about where young people are at today. Because my wife and I, we watch the evening news, we see these protests for whatever reason. I mean, there's people that are sincere, there always is. But we looked at it over and over and over, and I said to my wife, I said, they don't believe in this. They're not even aware of really what the subject is, but they want to become a part of something that rises up and there's change and there's purpose and so forth. And I get that. And what I would say to them is, there is a purpose and there is change, and there is someone to follow and to fight for. And that is the Lord Jesus Christ, who is, some people say, a revolution missionary, you know, and he's the one that stood up against the norm, and he's the one that said to love your enemies. And. And so the. I think that the. The. The more difficult you make Christianity. In some ways, young people are like, that's for me. I'm going to do that, you know, and. And they want to follow this radical guy. And I'm going to lay down my life. Even if I have to die. I'll die for you. Kind of like Peter, you know, Lord, I'll die for you and Jesus. No, you're gonna. You're gonna deny me before the cockroach three times, you know, Deny me three times. So I think that you are. You're exactly right. When you look at the young people out there and you can see, I think I know you. That's what you and I are saying kind of, you know, Tudor looking at them. I think I know you. I think I know what you're searching for. Come here. I've got something for you that's gonna blow your mind.
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Tudor Dixon
It's been kind of neat to see celebrities get involved in this, because I think that that is another group that young people tend to go, I'll put my hope in you. I'll follow you. I think that something you're doing is impressive. And to see them kind of step out and be like, it's not about me. Yeah, that's gotten some pushback, too. I think it was Gwen Stefani who came out over Christmas and was talking about the Hollow app, and. And she got a lot of pushback on this. Like, whoa, what is this? And I. And I think, you know, when you're in that position, all the pushback is fine if you save one.
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Jeff Cavins
Yeah, yeah. You know, the purpose of the. Of the app is not to gather together a bunch of speakers and singers who have their life completely, 100%, totally put together. That is not the purpose. The purpose is to glorify Jesus, to proclaim the gospel in a way that people can understand. And we do realize that along the way, there are a lot of people who are at different places on this journey, and there is nothing wrong with me walking with one or two and saying, how are you doing? You know, and how are you relating to God? In your life, all the while keeping what we call that orthodoxy, you know, there center stage. And so, yeah, there are people who join us, you know, Lauren Daigle and Chris Pratt and Mark Wahlberg. And these are people who are actively growing and trying to pursue their relationship with the Lord, you know, tutor. The one thing we don't want to do is we don't want to project this idea that if you're going to hang with me or us, you got to have it together. And we're not putting people on there like they're doctors of the church or great saints from the old. These are people like you and me, you know, and the truth is that if people knew all about any of us, we probably would not be invited to the party, you know.
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Tudor Dixon
I saw a post on social media today and I don't know if it was true but but it was a good example of what we tend to do. It was this story of a bishop who had a woman and her young child come into the church and she wasn't dressed the way the people expected her to be dressed. So people that worked at the church ushered her out and the bishop said to them, you'll pray for her every day for the rest of your life because there's a chance that she will never walk into a church again. And I want to make sure that we don't chase people off, that everybody is welcome.
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Jeff Cavins
Yes.
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Tudor Dixon
And I just think so often that is the case. It's like, oh, you don't really fit here. You're not really right. And we have to remember we don't really fit here.
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Jeff Cavins
Yeah, yeah.
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Tudor Dixon
We're never good enough. And yet he always welcomes us.
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Jeff Cavins
And he's always saying, you know, come with me. I don't see Jesus at any point saying you, you and you Please stay back a little bit.
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Tudor Dixon
Right, right, right.
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Jeff Cavins
I've got a reputation. I have a social media platform. I've got a book deal that's about to be. Please, please. He'd say, bring the children to me. Bring them. And what do the disciples do? They tried to push them back, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Give the superstar some room here. No, he said, bring them to me. Bring them to me. And I think that that's. That's. I believe the heart of Jesus, and that's the way I want to be, you know? And anybody that I can bring to the walk with the Lord, I'm going to do it, because I know that. Here's the. Here's the interesting thing. I'll share this with you. You'll get a kick out of this, I think. When Zacchaeus down in Jericho, he's chief tax collector, that means he's hated by all the Jews. He's got. He's the chief. He has underlings that are tax collectors. He has a fine home and everything. He has ripped people off. He has cheated people. And when they see him coming to Jericho to do what he wants to see Jesus. He gets up in the sycamore tree and he looks down, he sees Jesus, and. And Jesus looks up at him and says, you come on down. I'm gonna have dinner at your house. They go crazy.
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Tudor Dixon
Yeah. People are nuts.
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Jeff Cavins
What if he knew who that was?
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Tudor Dixon
Yeah.
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Jeff Cavins
He wouldn't have them over for dinner. Does you know what that says something about his discernment, you know, he is. So if he knew who that was, he'd never. He would invite us, the Pharisees, you know, the scribes. We would be going to dinner. But here's the deal. They got ripped off of a lot of money. The only way that they're ever going to get back that money. And they're probably saying, you know, you owe me. You ripped me off. You owe me. I wish I could take you to court, you know, but the only way they're going to get that money back is if Zacchaeus has dinner with Jesus. And when Zacchaeus gets together with Jesus, his whole heart melts. And he says, I'm going to give. I'm going to give everything back to them in fourfold. And that's what happens when we invite the tax collectors and the chief priests to come into this intimate dinner with Jesus. And Jesus changes their heart. And then that high priest turns around, says, you know, all of you that I know. I know I've done you wrong, and I know you've hated me all this time. I know it. I'm giving fourfold back this guy Jesus that you allowed me to come into the city and view. He's changed my life. And yeah, I was going to say you mentioned it earlier about the lady with the dressing, you know, dressing. What would happen if they had taken Jesus and just thrown him out of the city? Zacchaeus.
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Tudor Dixon
And it's so interesting at a time when we see people like looking at, at somebody in their political party and saying, you talk to this person, you can't be a part of this group anymore. You can't, you can't be here. We've got to push you out. You're not acceptable. You crossed a line. This is an exclusive group. And Jesus didn't have an exclusive group. It wasn't an exclusive club with Jesus. It was open to all. And you think that you, you, you think so many people look at Christianity as an exclusive group, but it's not. And that was why we have, that's why Jesus came. That's why he sent his. God sent his only son. It was to say, it's not exclusive. It's here for all of you work. I'm coming to you to show you that it's here for all of you. And I just, I think that's so amazing. And this weekend is always that weekend where like, he did it for me and I didn't deserve it. I don't know why he did it for me. And I think there is guilt in this weekend and probably a good guilt because that's that convicting guilt that on Sunday means we all get to say at Sunday came, Sunday is here, he is risen. And, and we get to rejoice in that. But before I let you go, I know I'm keeping you a little long, but let me ask you to just one more time tell people where they can get this, because I know I want my girls to walk that walk and, and so people understand they actually get to see you walk this walk, correct?
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Jeff Cavins
Yes. With Jonathan. Yeah. I mean, Jonathan's really the, I think the focus of, of this is his experience because he's going to be, you know, filming in the weeks ahead. Now those scenes for the chosen. And you know, people can go to, you can download the hello app and you can register that way. They do have a seven, seven days free, which is perfect for this. And if you want to get. I think it's three months left to check, but I think it's three months. You can go to hello,.com jeffcavens my name. And they'll give you three months free on that. But you can get it, you can download it, and you can begin watching right now. And you can pick up the whole week. You can go back and watch them as well. And it's really a great tool. You mentioned it, your spot on for children because when children say, that's the garden of Gethsemane, that's the Garden of Gethsemane, and boy, that looks like Jesus, well, that's Jonathan, but he plays Jesus.
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Tudor Dixon
So, yeah, that's what I always say. I'm a very. I'm a visual person. I know my kids are visual people. And I think we all sit down and we read those stories and we read those stories together as a family. But to put the visual with it, to see that, that's so much more powerful. And that's why I think it's so important people go to Hallow, download the app. You just heard, you can get three months free. So why would you not do it? Go there? And. And really, I think that you have to understand that the reason people like you are out there doing this for the. The folks listening is because we want you to have that hope. The hope that you talked about. It's just. It's going. Having gone through cancer, losing my dad to cancer, just all the things that you go through as a parent, all the struggles you go through, I don't know how I would have done it without Jesus.
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Jeff Cavins
Yeah, I'm with you on that. Tutor. I just. October, last October, my dad died. And then March 1st of this year, my mom died. And I know what you're saying is that there's something different about you and there's something different about me mourning. Because we have this relationship with Jesus. Even our mourning is different and our hope is even in that because it's.
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Tudor Dixon
We're separated for a time. I mean, it's just like when I think about him at that dinner, looking at all of them and the difference between what they were going through at that dinner and the knowledge that he had at that dinner. I leave them tomorrow. I am separated for a time. That is the same feeling I had when I lost my dad. We're separated for a time. I'm so blessed that I get to see you again. And I think that's the. If that doesn't sell you, I mean, that's the hope that you have in Jesus, is that you get to. To have eternal life in him because he has given his life for us.
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Jeff Cavins
Amen to that. I totally agree with you. Totally agree. It's great.
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Tudor Dixon
Thank you. Thank you and Happy Easter coming up. Thank you so much. Jeff Cavins like he said, go to the Hallow app for sure. Thanks for being on today. Thank you and thank you all for joining us on the Tudor Dixon Podcast. For this podcast and others, go to Tudor Dixon Podcast, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and join us next time. Have a blessed day.
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