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Tudor Dixon
Terms welcome to the Tudor Dixon Podcast. I know you all are watching what's happening in Minnesota right now, and those who are viewing this through the lens of common sense are kind of horrified to see a governor and a mayor who are so openly defying the US Government. But it's not just that. It's a call to their citizens to launch a civil war. I mean, I think we're all pretty stunned by that. But the. The country is definitely split on this. And my guest today might be able to explain a little bit about how this protest, which has turned into riots, is actually truly organized behind the scenes. So I'm really excited to get right into this interview with the author of the new book, the Invisible Coup, Peter Schweitzer. Thank you so much for joining me.
Peter Schweitzer
Hey, thanks so much for having me on. I appreciate it.
Tudor Dixon
I mean, as I'm going through everything that you have been talking about, what you've written in this book, all of the connections that you've made between Mexico and China and immigration, I'm pretty stunned.
Peter Schweitzer
Well, I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, I think we. We've all had this big national debate over the last few years about immigration as it relates to jobs and, you know, crime on our streets and our culture. That's a very important conversation to have and a necessary one. What I talk about in the book is weaponized migration. And what I mean by that is foreign actors that can be governments like Mexico's and China or groups like the Muslim Brotherhood who are seeking to weaponize it, to use it as a tool to undermine the United States. And tudor. Those are not my words. Those are actually the words of these officials. I quote them as saying that and what we're seeing played out in Minnesota is a. Both an indirect and a direct consequence of that. Because, yes, you do have Governor Walz acting very recklessly, encouraging people to, you know, get involved as federal law enforcement, trying to do their job and obstruct them. But you also have foreign actors, foreign governments who are fueling this and. And encouraging this activism in a very destructive way. So there's something larger going on here than just, you know, a crazy governor of a Midwestern state.
Tudor Dixon
But as I'm learning from you about birthright citizenship and what's happened with the Chinese and the influence of the Chinese, I have to kind of remind myself that Walls has somewhat of an obsession with China. He did honeymoon there on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square. I mean, that's. That in and of itself is strange. This is giving feelings of that kind of a riot, that kind of a protest. I. I just wonder if there is a connection between Walls and the Chinese government. It. I mean, maybe that sounds crazy, but.
Peter Schweitzer
Well, he. He clearly has a soft spot for China, not just in his public statements, but as the, you know, governor of Minnesota. He's of the investment firm that invests pension money for the state of Minnesota. Minnesota was really the only State under his tenure, tenure that actually radically increased its holdings of Chinese investments. Most other states, including liberal states like Washington State, were decreasing their exposure to Chinese investments because they understood the political risk and they understood the, the human rights implications of it. So he clearly does have a soft spot forward. He has a close relationship with people at Chinese consulate. I've highlighted that in my work in the past. What you're seeing play out in Minneapolis are efforts by foreign actors to weaponize immigration. So China is certainly an example of that. Two of the big groups that are active in China, sorry, are active in Minnesota are psl, the Party for Socialism and Liberation and the Freedom Road Socialist Organization. These are far left radical Marxist Leninist groups. They have pledged their allegiance to the Chinese Communist Party in their own words. They travel to Beijing and coordinate with Chinese officials. And a lot of the most radical violent protests are being organized by these two organizations. I would also say that Mexico, now we think of Mexico as kind of this hapless, corrupt government. They actually have serious ambitions through mass migration to the United States. And I have numerous quotes from government officials, including President Sheinbaum is how a mass migration to the United States extends Mexico's sovereignty into the United States. And I can go into those. But as it relates to Minneapolis, there is a Mexican consulate in St. Pete, the St. Pete, sorry, St. Paul, one of the Twin Cities. And we know that two of the groups that are also involved in these violent anti ice protests, one of them is called clues. They actually share the same address as the Mexican consulate and they've done a lot of joint operations together. And, and you have a Mexican government officials like Alejandro Robles who lives in the United states, who in 2025 was traveling the country in his words, to quote, organize the militancy in the United States against Donald Trump. So there's plenty of evidence that Mexico is also fanning the flames of, of these violent protests.
Tudor Dixon
There's this theory among these groups that once you get to 3 to 4% of the population that has gone against the U.S. government that you can, or any government that you can actually overturn, that's that form of government and change it. Do you think that's what they think they're doing?
Peter Schweitzer
Oh, absolutely. There's no question about it. I mean, look what's happening in Minnesota there, there's some precedent for it in American history where you had a governor who said to the federal government, I don't really care what federal law says. I don't really care what laws you're trying to enforce. We're not going to cooperate, and we're going to obstruct and we're going to get mobs of people to stop you guys from doing it. That happened in Mississippi and Alabama, the 1950s, 1960s, when you had segregationists saying, we're just going to ignore the federal law. That's exactly what Tim Walz is doing here. And but what he's doing is he's relying on a small percentage of people who say, until we get our way, we are going to create chaos, we're going to sow discord, we are going to engage in violent acts to try to provoke people to make things worse. And let's be clear, Tim Walls, for all of his weepy kind of sentimentalism, he wants martyrs. He wants these things happening because it benefits him politically and helps his political cause. And the reason that these foreign actors, like the government of Mexico or like China are doing is, is they view the United States, particularly in the Trump era, as a fundamental threats to their interests. They view it as a civilization that needs to be defeated. Again, that's those words, not mine. So those are the stakes. This is much larger than simply a few crazy radical in Minneapolis, you know, throwing things at federal law enforcement.
Tudor Dixon
Yeah, you talked about him wanting martyrs. I want to get into a little bit about how the media helps him out here, because obviously the media has been highlighting these two terrible situations where we lost two people in the state of Minnesota. But we haven't heard anything about the fact that these officers were locked up in a hotel. They had, they were. You know, you see one of the officers whose hands are bloody, obviously he's been attacked. Another officer had his finger bitten off over the weekend. I mean, we're not hearing anything about that. But it is getting, it's not just, it's not just people protesting. It is getting violent.
Peter Schweitzer
Yeah, it's, it's not protest. It's. It's violence. And again, just look at the arrogance of somebody like Tim Walls, who is saying, just as the segregationists did in the south, you know, I'm going to stand in the school doorway and defy the federal government. I am going to not just say to people, you can stand on the street and you can protest and say, we don't like ice. This is America. You can do that. What you cannot do is prevent law enforcement from carrying out their duties. If you do so, it's a felony. If you do so, in the tragic situation where this gentleman was carrying a sidearm, that's also an added crime. If you commit A felony, and you're armed while doing so, that's an additional criminal penalty. And I say that, by the way, as somebody who has a concealed carry permit and carries a firearm, you just don't do that. But he is fanning the flames and fueling those. And. And he will not stop even if people are being shot in this chaos because of the agenda that he is putting forward.
Tudor Dixon
You said something interesting there, because there's been a lot of debate, obviously, the Monday morning quarterbacks, people who are going through this video and saying, this man was just recording, and we certainly don't have at this point, the video ahead of time. I mean, if you're watching it, it seems as though there's a clash with law enforcement. Is he getting in the way of law enforcement? We're still trying to figure that all out. But your point is, I think if he is impeding an investigation, that's a felony and he has a gun on his body. That. Because a lot of people have been saying, oh, wait, now, all of a sudden you see all these two a people saying, you can't conceal carry. You can, but you can't commit a crime while you can still carry.
Peter Schweitzer
Right, exactly. And by the way, I would flip that and say it's amazing how many new Second amendment supporters are now are on the political left who suddenly are all in favor of people concealed carrying. And no, look, I've had a concealed carry permit for more than 10 years. A number of basic things that you learn from training. One of those is you don't commit a crime when you're carrying a firearm. You. You don't go looking for trouble. You avoid trouble precisely for these reasons. My understanding is this gentleman was also not carrying an id. You're required to carry an ID if you're carrying a firearm, at least in the state of Minnesota. So, again, it's a tragedy. But. But what Walls is doing is, again, we have elections. There was an election in 2024. Donald Trump did not hide the fact what his views were on immigration. The American people voted for that. Millions of numbers. And here you have Tim Walls who's saying, well, I'm sorry, I don't agree with federal law. So I'm going to arrogantly assume I have the ability to decide which federal law is going to be enforced and which ones are not. That's kind of where we are. And again, in the larger scope of things, we need to understand the ambitions of these foreign entities. This is not just a domestic squabble. This is a civilizational battle that's taking place in the heartland of America in issues about controlling our borders. And when people think about immigration, the border, sealing the border was absolutely essential. But the reality is when people come into our country, they bring in political networks and some of those are nefarious. They want to undermine us. We need to start looking at dismantling those political networks that are antithetical to the United States. These are foreign government officials. They don't have First Amendment rights that allow them to agitate and interfere in our elections, which is what some of them are doing.
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Tudor Dixon
Let me go back to the Minnesota situation for a minute because when we hear on the news, I've heard many news networks who have come out and said this is happening in cities all across the nation. No, no, it's happening in Minneapolis. I mean this is really very concentrated in just Minneapolis. But it is taking up a lot of the air on the networks because obviously it's a big PR problem, I would say for the Trump administration because they have created this clash there. And they've convinced. I mean, even the lieutenant governor said, go put your body in between them. Get your body in the street. I mean, she essentially, what you said asked for martyrs. Why are these people not understanding that ICE is all across the country and their job is to get really bad people out of the country? How is that narrative getting manipulated?
Peter Schweitzer
Well, it's not being covered by the media. And certainly what I would advise, if the lieutenant governor says, get your body in the way, why isn't the lieutenant governor doing. Yeah, she's telling, you know, Walls was.
Tudor Dixon
Hiding behind the gate of his house. I mean, how embarrassing is that?
Peter Schweitzer
Yeah, I mean, this reminds me of, of, you know, when you have the jihadist imams who are trying to tell other people, go be a suicide bomber. It's the same kind of mentality. They're, they're encouraging people to risk themselves, risk getting arrested on a felony charge. You're not going to get bailed out by some state judge. It's a felony charge. Go do this in the name of the cause. While, by the way, I sit back here and hold a fundraiser for my reelection campaign. It's, it's really very disgraceful. And the only remaining question for me involving these elected officials is, are they ignorant of the international component here? Are they ignorant of the fact that you have Chinese connected entities and you have Mexican officials agitating in this way? Are you either ignorant or are you complicit? There's no other option. And that's the sort of question I'd like to see them asked.
Tudor Dixon
So that is where what I want to get into now, because I think a lot of people are ignorant. I think if you are in leadership, you should not be. And obviously you were able to define this and find this. So it's not like it's hidden. It's not as if you cannot know this information. But there are people in leadership who clearly are acting as though this is no big deal. The president has been critical of birthright citizenship. And most people get really uncomfortable when they hear that because they're like, this is how we've always done it. How can you, how can you question birthright citizenship? But then I start reading about birth tourism and what you say is happening with Chinese birth tourism. I mean, you're talking about over the last, you said over the last 13 years, a hundred thousand per year. And these are all going to be US Voters.
Peter Schweitzer
Yeah, yeah. No, it's, it's birthright citizenship. A lot of people kind of assume that birthright citizenship applies to Somebody happens to be in the country on a student visa and they give birth and okay, well, maybe that child can be a US Citizen or somebody has snuck across the border. This occasionally happens. What China's done is created an industrial scale loophole to manipulate and, and threaten the United States with birthright citizenship. And so what do I mean? What I mean is back in 2011 and years since then, the Chinese Communist Party in their biggest newspapers started running articles saying you have a right if you, your child is born in the United States for your child to be a US Citizen. This is the Chinese Communist Party. Yes. In their newspaper I quoted in the.
Tudor Dixon
Book, that is crazy.
Peter Schweitzer
You have a constitutional right. So first of all, you've got the CCP telling Chinese elites you have a right, a constitutional right to this. And then you're wondering, why would a foreign government want members of their own elite to get US Citizenship for their children? But then they allowed this industry to flourish. This industry called birth tourism, and it's advertised all over Chinese media. And of course Chinese media is heavily censored. So the fact that they're allowing these ads to, to appear is also problematic. But what happens is what you described, birth tourism. They pay member, the Chinese elite will pay a company 50, $75,000. They will set up a hotel, they'll set up a medical hospital in the United States. The mother and sometimes husband will fly to the United States. They will give birth to the child. A couple of days later, they will fly back to China. Now, their child being born here according to birthright citizenship, is a U. S. Citizen. But the child's basically been here for, you know, a week from the time they were born to the time they went home. But they go back to China. They are raised in China. They are, they're going to achieve adult adulthood in China. Their parents are members of the Chinese elite. They're military officers, they're intelligence officers. We found one Chinese senior military officer who has three children who are all U.S. citizens. And when they turn 18, they're going to be able to vote in our elections even though they've never lived here. They're going to be able to donate to political campaigns, they're going to be able to apply for government jobs. And by the way, they can also get permanent resident status for both of their parents by virtue of the fact that they're U.S. citizens. So this is a massive, massive security breach for us. And let's remember, we're looking at roughly a million votes. That's, that's according to the Chinese government. By the way, the Chinese government estimates that there's like a million to a million and a half US Citizens raised in China who are going to be able to begin voting in the next few years. That's what we're facing. So this is not sort of occasionally somebody being born in the United States. It's an accident, and it happens. It's planned, it's industrial. And we in the United States have no sense of the scale of this. Because, Tudor, when you give birth to a child in the United States and you get that birth certificate that establishes that they can be a US Citizen, we don't collect any data on the nationality of the parents. So our federal government has no clue of how many U. S. Citizens are lurking out there in other countries who are going to be able to vote when they turn 18. And in China, it's an absolute tsunami.
Tudor Dixon
So you have birth hotels that are in states like California where people come. They. This child is not raised here. The child is raised as a follower of Xi Jinping. I mean, this is because you don't go to China and you're like, oh, but I'm actually American and I don't believe in these things. You are raised. And if you're, if you're wealthy enough to come have your child in California, you are part of the ccp.
Peter Schweitzer
Yeah, no, that's right. These. These are members of the elite. And there's another offshoot of this that we have no estimates. Even the Chinese government has not done estimates, and that is their exploitation of surrogacy in the United States. So this is a little bit different.
Tudor Dixon
How can this even be? I mean, this shocks me that you can have. I mean, there are states where you can't have a surrogate as, as a US Citizen, but there are, There are Chinese who can get a U.S. surrogate and then have a U.S. baby. I. I can't believe it.
Peter Schweitzer
And again, the numbers here are shocking, Tudor. A lot of it's in California. California has no restrictions.
Tudor Dixon
Shocking.
Peter Schweitzer
On. On. Yeah, on. On surrogacy. So what happens is you're a member of the. Of the Chinese elite. You find a mother in the United States, you donate sperm, you pay the mother $50,000, let's say, to carry the child. When the child is born, the child will be picked up, sometimes not even by the parents. Sometimes a third party shows up, picks up the child, flies the child back to China. That child will also have US Citizenship, not just by virtue of the fact being born here, but the birth mother is American, and we don't know the full extent of the numbers, but let me just give you two shocking data points. Number one, the Wall Street Journal three weeks ago had a story about just one member of the CCP elite in China. One billionaire businessman who tutor has, according to the Wall Street Journal, 100 children born this way. 100 children born this way that are us.
Tudor Dixon
I assure you, they are not in his house as his children. So what happens to them once they go back?
Peter Schweitzer
Correct. There is absolutely, you know, horrifying humanitarian component to all of this. So, yeah, that one. Another data point we looked at just Southern California. We said, how many businesses are there in Southern California in the surrogacy business that are owned by Chinese nationals? We found just In Southern California, 107 businesses that are doing land. So again, this is a, this is a massive problem. It's not just a birthright citizenship problem problem. It's a surrogacy problem as well.
Tudor Dixon
This could overturn our. I mean, this really talking a million votes that wins a presidential election. I mean, this changes the fundamentals of government. This can change our entire economic system.
Peter Schweitzer
Yeah, it's, it's, it's a massive threat. And again, China is very sophisticated about this. Mexico has its strategies, China has his, has theirs. And it, it's, it's enormously sophisticated. They have also figured out a way to inject tens of millions of dollars into our political campaigns legally as well. And it goes back to a visa law that was created in the early 1990s called EB5. That's if you invest a million dollars in the United States and you create some. Create some jobs, you get permanent resident status in the United States. And you're like, okay, yeah, maybe this. We want people to invest in America. Maybe that's a good idea. The problem is, when you look at that law, turns out that the person that really pushed and lobbied to get it passed was a businesswoman named Maria Psy, who 10 years later was outed as a Chinese spy. So we literally have a visa law that was written by a Chinese spy. Now, why is this problematic? Well, you invest a million dollars in the United States. This pro program is dominated by the Chinese. More than 90% of the people that get visas this way are Chinese nationals. You don't. You give the million dollars, you get the permanent resident status in the United States, but you don't actually live here. And they brag about this on Chinese social media. I have permanent resident status, but I don't live there. What does permanent resident status give you? You can't legally vote, but you can legally donate to political campaigns. So you have these, these quote unquote permanent residents of the United States living full time in China who are pouring tens of millions of dollars into our political campaigns. Probably not surprising, Those donations break 80 to 20 Democrat, Republican, and they are making a significant difference in congressional races, all kinds of federal races. It's an enormous problem and they don't have to disclose them as foreign donations. So again, they figured out a way to exploit our system and we've been totally oblivious to it.
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Tudor Dixon
So what is your impression of the President's plan to sell? I think he's selling green cards for $1 billion, right?
Peter Schweitzer
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not in favor of that. I think, you know, look, what what what he has said is, you know, he's going to raise the threshold. There's going to be a very rigorous screening process. I have no idea I have no doubt that he is going to have a screening process. The problem is, at some point, you're going to have a president in there who's not going to have a screening process.
Tudor Dixon
Right.
Peter Schweitzer
You're going to have happened what happened in the Obama and Biden and Clinton administrations where the citizenship rules were totally gutted. They ignored criminal background checks for people who wanted US Citizenship. You can have the same thing happen with this program. So I don't think it's a good idea, and I would be opposed to it.
Tudor Dixon
Well, let me ask you about what is happening in Mexico. You've brought, you've talked about Mexico a few times. They say that they have almost 40 million people in the United States and they've openly talked about, especially certain states, like taking that territory back, which I think you're right. We are, we have this kind of innocent view of they're a bit of a chaotic government. They couldn't really pull that off. But in the midst of hearing everybody go crazy about Donald Trump wanting control of Greenland, I mean, you have active high elected officials in the Mexican government saying they will take states back from the United States, and no one's saying anything.
Peter Schweitzer
Yeah. This was one of the more shocking things in the book. A, how many leaders in Mexico are saying this? I mean, I'm talking about top leaders and how many there are. I mean, there's, there's, you know, more than a dozen quotes from senior Mexican officials. Let me just, just read two of them for your readers to give a sense that we're not exaggerating. This is what they say. The first one is from a government report in December of 2024 written by President Sheinbaum's, one of our top aides. Quote, we already know that the Mexican population in the United States reaches 39.9 million. We Mexicans are reclaiming our territory, end quote. Or this one from one of the most powerful senators in Mexico. He's a member of the Morena Party, which is the ruling party, and he sits on the National Defense Committee, which is the powerful committee in the Mexican Senate. This is just a couple of years ago. Quote, Mexicans are in our territories, California, Nevada, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado and Wyoming. We're going to take back the territory that was stolen from us, end quote. And I could read a bunch of more. The bottom line is they view mass migration as a means of establishing sovereignty over certain American states. And there's already evidence that they've achieved that. And they, they talk about that, and I quote them in the book. So again, it's weaponized immigration. This is not just simply a case of people coming across the border for a better life. Yes, there are people like that. There are people that want to come and be part of the American dream and. And want to assimilate. But again, Mexican officials are opposed to that. I quote in the book a senior official from the Marina ruling party who says that those from Mexico who come from the United States who Americanize and assimilate are traitors to Mexico. And he says, by the way, that President Sheinbaum agrees with him. So they don't want assimilation. They don't want people to embrace the American dream. They view them as tools that will allow them to extend what they call greater Mexico into the United States. And they're dead serious about it.
Tudor Dixon
It as part of their goal to destabilize. Because obviously we saw all of those caravans that came through Mexico, and the most common sense comment should have been, why is Mexico letting them just go right through? Why? Why don't they try to stop them? There's a border they hit before they come to the United States. Why is it just like, oh, the United States, it's that way, you know, I mean, how does that happen?
Peter Schweitzer
Yeah, no, it's actually a part of it. You know, when Joe Biden in November of 2020 was declared the winner of the election, days after that, the president of Mexico, Amlo, at the time was his name. He's the mentor of the current President Sheinbaum. Days after Biden was declared the winner, he had a vote in the Mexican parliament to dramatically loosen immigration laws that they knew, based on the congressional record at the time, they knew was going to lead to a flood of people heading to the United States. So they did that intentionally. You had other governments like Nicaragua, which is run by the Sandinistas, very left wing, who said, anybody who flies to Nicaragua, we will get you to the border so you can go to the United States. And they were flooded with literally millions of people started arriving on chartered airplanes in Nicaragua for the sole purpose of immigrating north to the United States. And the reason that Daniel Ortega, the president of Nicaragua, did that, according to him, to his own words, was to wage war on the United States. So this is intentional. It's real. It involves foreign adversaries. It involves elites in the United States like Joe Biden and other states who see the political advantage of doing this. They recognized early on that it is a political winner for them in terms of their base of power and support to have mass migration, illegal migration into the United States. California, as I point out in the book, has four more congressional seats than they would ordinarily have solely because of illegal immigrants that are in that state. Because the census counts people, it does not count citizens. Trump's trying to change that, but. So California is incentivized to have as many illegals as possible within the state from the. From the measure of political power. And does four congressional seats sound like a lot? Does it sound like a little. Keep in mind that those four congressional seats, that's more than 13 states in the United States have. In other words, illegals in California have more. A larger congressional delegation. Delegation than 13 states in our country. That's what's real, raw political power, and that's why they want them in their states, and that's why they're fighting so aggressively to not have them removed.
Tudor Dixon
Well, and for the people who naively believe that everybody loves America, because America is always going to come to the rescue, just look at the faces of even our allies at the World Economic Forum. They're jealous. They would gladly say we can take over and become the most powerful nation in the world. Now, I believe they know that they can't. But I don't think that they are as concerned about the immigration into the United States because there is a bit of jealousy there. You can see it on their faces.
Peter Schweitzer
Yeah, I mean, look, United States is. Is a unique country in so many ways. And when you look at Europe, my parents are from Europe. They immigrated from Switzerland, from Sweden, before I was born. And so I have friends in Europe. Europe does not have the same civilizational order as the United States. We are really based on a creed, certain ideas and principles. Europe were nation states that developed out of ethnicity. Right. You were French, you were German. That has kind of been stripped away. And so a European identity, what does it really mean? Who knows? But we know what an American identity is, and that's what makes us unique and different in the world. And so when you had immigration 50 years ago, a hundred years ago, by and large, it was people that say, we want to go to America. We want to capture the American dream. We want to become Americans. We want to be proud Americans. That's what my parents did. That's what immigrates from all around the world used to do. What we are now living in is the era of weaponized migration. And you have governments like Mexico, like China, you have NGO groups that are involved in the sort of immigration, refugee space. And what is their message? No, don't assimilate. This is not a superior society, a superior culture. No, don't embrace. Embrace the collectivist values. Those are their words in base. Embrace the collectivist values of your homeland. Don't become American. If you become American, you are a traitor. So they have weaponized immigration and they're quite open when they say that they like immigration, mass immigration to the United States. Why? Because it's going to have a, quote, transformative effect on American civilization. And what they mean by that is they want it radically changed and this is the way they're going to accomplish it. Again, it's not me saying it. I quote them in the book, saying it over and over and over again.
Tudor Dixon
That's why the book is so important and that's why people should read this book, because we have so many folks right now on the right who are saying we want to be able to intelligently talk about this and talk about the dangers, but we don't fully understand the situation. So go get it. It's the Invisible Coup, How American elites and foreign powers use immigration as a weapon. Where can they get it?
Peter Schweitzer
You can get it anywhere where books are sold. We've been number one on Amazon for all books sold for the past week, so you can certainly get it there. But it's also available in bookstores.
Tudor Dixon
Well, congratulations, Peter Schweitzer. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast.
Peter Schweitzer
Thanks for having me. I enjoyed it.
Tudor Dixon
Absolutely. And thank you all for joining the podcast. As always, ways you can get it wherever you get Your podcast, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or tutordixon. Com. You can also check it out on Rumble or YouTube @tudor Dixon. But make sure you join us and have a blessed day. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Air Date: January 28, 2026
Host: Tudor Dixon
Guest: Peter Schweitzer, author of The Invisible Coup
In this intense episode, Tudor Dixon and investigative journalist Peter Schweitzer delve deep into the evolving border crisis, examining how foreign governments like China and Mexico are intentionally using immigration as a strategic weapon to undermine U.S. sovereignty. The conversation spans the weaponization of migration, the exploitation of birthright citizenship, the manipulation of American demographics, and the complicity or ignorance of American leaders and media. Schweitzer provides a provocative, research-dense perspective that challenges common assumptions about immigration, political influence, and America's future.
Memorable quote:
"What I talk about in the book is weaponized migration... foreign actors that can be governments like Mexico’s and China or groups like the Muslim Brotherhood who are seeking to weaponize it, to use it as a tool to undermine the United States. And Tudor, those are not my words. Those are actually the words of these officials." – Peter Schweitzer (03:10)
Memorable quote:
“This is a massive security breach for us...the Chinese government estimates that there’s like a million to a million and a half U.S. citizens raised in China who are going to be able to begin voting in the next few years. That’s what we’re facing.” – Peter Schweitzer (21:16)
Memorable quote:
“They’re encouraging people to risk themselves, risk getting arrested on a felony charge...while I sit back here and hold a fundraiser for my reelection campaign. It’s really very disgraceful.” – Peter Schweitzer (16:13)
Mexico:
Analogy:
Notable Mexican quote cited:
“We Mexicans are reclaiming our territory." — Mexican official (29:49)
“We’re going to take back the territory that was stolen from us." — Mexican Senator (30:23)
Memorable quote:
“We are now living in the era of weaponized migration...and what is their message? No, don’t assimilate. This is not a superior society, a superior culture. No, don’t embrace...Embrace the collectivist values of your homeland. Don’t become American. If you become American, you are a traitor.” – Peter Schweitzer (36:28)
On weaponized migration:
"This is much larger than simply a few crazy radical in Minneapolis... This is a civilizational battle that's taking place in the heartland of America in issues about controlling our borders." – Peter Schweitzer (12:13)
On Chinese birth tourism:
“[The] Chinese Communist Party...in their biggest newspapers started running articles saying you have a right if you, your child is born in the United States for your child to be a US Citizen...Then they allowed this industry to flourish.” – Peter Schweitzer (18:30)
On foreign cash in U.S. politics:
“You have these quote unquote permanent residents of the United States living full time in China who are pouring tens of millions of dollars into our political campaigns. Probably not surprising, those donations break 80 to 20 Democrat, Republican, and they are making a significant difference in congressional races.” – Peter Schweitzer (25:52)
Peter Schweitzer's The Invisible Coup offers a controversial but data-heavy argument for how immigration is being systematically weaponized against the U.S. through legal, political, and social loopholes, with active participation or complicity from some domestic leaders, and a media narrative that Schweitzer says obfuscates the real stakes. Dixon and Schweitzer urge listeners to read the book for a deeper understanding, especially for informed immigration debates on the right.
Where to buy the book:
Relevant Quote to End:
“We want to be able to intelligently talk about this and talk about the dangers, but we don’t fully understand the situation. So go get it. It’s The Invisible Coup: How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon.” – Tudor Dixon (37:25)