Ukraine Is Losing, But The EU Wants War | Steven Eugene Kuhn | Ep. 72

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Ukraine Is Losing, But The EU Wants War | Ep. 72

Guest: Steven Eugene Kuhn

Date: November 3, 2025
Host: David Rutherford (guest hosting for the regulars, Clay & Buck)
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the current state of the war in Ukraine, the motivations and strategies of both Russia and the European Union (EU), and the on-the-ground realities shaping Europe's future security landscape. Former combat veteran and international businessman Steven Eugene Kuhn offers brutally frank, firsthand insights. The discussion pulls back the curtain on EU politics, propaganda, economic interests, and why Kuhn believes Ukraine is on the losing side, with the EU heading towards a broader conflict many citizens oppose.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Current Status: “Who’s Winning?”

(04:01–05:10)

• Kuhn asserts that dependable intel from both Russian and Western sources overwhelmingly indicates Ukraine is losing the war, both militarily and financially.

  • Russia's losses are overstated in Western media; Kuhn’s contacts (“ex-SF guys”) state Russia is “in a very strong position” and can sustain the war for another 3–5 years easily.
  • The EU is “betting everything” on supporting Ukraine, but is “absolutely losing it.”

• Quote:

  “Ukraine’s losing, they’re losing more… something like three to four to one soldiers.”
  —Steven Kuhn (04:28)

• The conflict serves as a massive propaganda battleground, with Russia characterized as weak in EU media, but solid and enduring in reality.

2. EU’s Motivation and (In)Ability for Peace

(05:10–06:40)

• EU leaders are heavily pushing the war, repeatedly refusing diplomatic channels:

  “On one hand, they say, ‘we want peace’…well, no, we’re not going to talk to Russians. How can you have peace without diplomacy?”
  —Steven Kuhn (05:23)

• Kuhn criticizes EU leadership as lacking credibility or legitimacy, and claims some are only in power to avoid prosecution at home.

• Russia, seeing West’s duplicity, has “no trust” left in Western negotiators, and is now fully committed to imposing its own resolution.

3. Public Sentiment and Propaganda in the EU

(07:18–08:45)

• “Most people don’t want this.” Propaganda is most effective on those whose lives are invested in current political structures.

• Notable trend: Many Germans and citizens in other EU countries are openly denouncing their governments’ war efforts online.

• Example: VW board quietly pivoting towards war production, indicating that major industry is preparing for extended conflict.

• Quote:

  “The people don’t want the war... I don’t know anybody who wants it.”
  —Kuhn (07:45)

4. Mysterious Deaths of German Politicians and the Flow of Information

(09:16–11:03)

• In the run-up to key elections, 14 German politicians died mysteriously; 7 were from the right-wing AfD.
• Kuhn’s contacts could find no official intel or explanation, indicating more is happening behind the scenes:
  • It could be a “low-level test” by powers-that-be, to see public reaction.
  • The speed of information/distraction is being weaponized to bury significant news.

5. Economic Realities: Buying Russian Fuel While Waging War

(11:03–13:25)

• Despite official sanctions, the EU continues buying Russian fuel—either directly, or via “blended” oil routed through places like Kazakhstan.

• Quote:

  “They’re basically financing their own enemy when they’re buying the fuel.”
  —Kuhn (12:18)

• Ukraine is the real victim (“My wife’s family lost their home in Kharkiv”), while EU leaders use the conflict to prop up their own political positions and shift industry toward war readiness.

• A plan is in place:

  “There’s a draft, everything’s in place by 2029 to go full out war with Russia. And now, they’re trying to speed it up.”
  —Kuhn (13:08)

6. Hungary’s Role & Central/Eastern Europe as the Next Battleground

(18:26–20:34)

• Hungary, under Viktor Orban, is seen as a bulwark against EU escalation:

  • It’s one of the last conservative, sovereign holdouts; “Homogenous…no crime, no immigrant gangs.”

• The Balkans, Slavic, and Baltic States are considered “expendables” by EU leadership, likely to bear the brunt of any large-scale showdown with Russia.

• Quote:

  “If [a large war] is fought …it will be fought in the Balkans, the Slavic and the Baltic states—because they are what the EU leadership calls ‘Expendables.’”
  —Kuhn (20:28)

7. Military Reality on the Ground

(21:46–24:34)

• Russia is “fully entrenched,” with lines unlikely to move.
• Most significant Russian strategy: Restraint rather than overwhelming advance.
  • “They could have rolled over them.” The lack of partisan resistance in Russian-held areas is because residents there are generally Russian-speaking and “OK with it.”
• Kuhn foresees a lull until early 2026, after which – with budget renewals – “expenditures are going to start exploding.”
• He also highlights the danger of “false flag” events being orchestrated to escalate the conflict and draw more outside actors in.

8. Social & Familial Impact Inside Ukraine

(24:34–27:57)

• Ukrainian society is deeply fractured.
  • Propaganda is total: alternative narratives are suppressed.
  • “Almost everyone in Ukraine has Russian relatives”—family rifts are common.
  • Ukrainians largely want peace, but are getting only one narrative.

9. Geopolitics: The Real Stakes

(30:44–32:59)

• The conflict is less about territory and more about global hegemony:

  “The biggest powers in the world can never work together, only two at a time… British crown drives the wedge all the time.”
  —Kuhn (31:21)

• Suggests true power games are driven by global elites above overt national players, with ordinary people largely powerless.

10. The Impossibility of Mustering a War Army

(33:00–34:35)

• When polled, young people across Europe show almost no willingness to “go fight in Ukraine.”
• Kuhn bluntly states the EU has no real plan for mobilizing mass armies; future wars may be “technocratic,” involving AI, drones, and automation instead.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Ukraine’s losing, they’re losing more… something like three to four to one soldiers.”
  —Kuhn (04:28)
• “How can you have peace without diplomacy? It just doesn’t work.”
  —Kuhn (05:23)
• “They’re basically financing their own enemy when they’re buying the fuel.”
  —Kuhn (12:18)
• “[The] war that will be fought, if it’s fought…it will be fought in the Balkans, the Slavic and the Baltic states—because they are what the EU leadership calls ‘Expendables.’”
  —Kuhn (20:28)
• “I see Putin saying, look, I’m holding off here, I’m restraining myself.… Let’s just end this and let’s keep it right here. But I’m not backing down.”
  —Kuhn (23:48)
• “Without soldiers, without people, there’s no emotional connection to war. There’s no heroes. There’s no stories…it’ll be sort of a technocratic war, and it won’t mean anything to anybody, which is almost worse, because then no one pays attention to it.”
  —Kuhn (34:01)
• On Orban and Hungary:

  “He nationalized private pensions…paid off the IMF and kicked them out. That’s why he can do what he does.”
  —Kuhn (32:12)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• 03:11 — Introduction to Steven Kuhn, setting up Ukraine discussion
• 04:01–05:10 — Who’s really winning the war? Kuhn’s intelligence sources
• 05:10–06:40 — EU’s refusal of diplomacy & why Russia doesn’t trust the West
• 07:18–08:45 — Public sentiment, propaganda, and rising industry war-readiness in Europe
• 09:16–11:03 — Mysterious deaths of opposition politicians in Germany, media distractions
• 11:03–13:25 — The EU’s economic hypocrisy: still buying Russian fuel
• 18:26–20:34 — Analysis of Hungary, Orban, and Central/Eastern Europe’s danger
• 21:46–24:34 — Battlefield realities and Russia’s “restraint” as strategy
• 24:34–27:57 — The impact of war and media narrative on Ukrainian families
• 30:44–32:59 — Hot war ambitions, great power rivalry, and "citizen leadership"
• 33:00–34:35 — The impossibility of a European mass mobilization for war; rise of technocratic/AI warfare

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Tone & Style

Grim, direct, and unsparing, but with moments of dark humor and a sense of urgency. Kuhn blends blunt assessments (“It’s all a farce”), personal stories (his Ukrainian wife’s family), and unapologetically challenges mainstream Western narratives, while also critiquing both sides’ propaganda.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Contrary to Western mainstream narratives, Ukraine’s position is far weaker than reported—the EU is not prepared for a protracted war, and is internally conflicted.
• The broader European public largely opposes war, but industry and government are nevertheless barreling toward escalation.
• Central/Eastern Europe—especially the Balkans and Baltics—are at greatest risk in future escalations, being viewed as “expendable” buffer zones.
• Russian strategy is characterized by “restraint,” not lack of capability; a negotiated settlement seems far off.
• Larger geopolitical stakes—energy, rare minerals, shifting world order—undergird the conflict well beyond Ukraine’s borders.

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Where to Find Steven Kuhn

• All social media as “Steven Eugene Kuhn”—TikTok, Instagram, X, LinkedIn.
• Author of Unleash Your Humble Alpha (curriculum in US universities like Harvard and Stanford).
• Runs a capital growth advisory, raises funds for various international projects.

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Final Words

Kuhn urges: “We need citizen leadership… The world needs citizen leadership.” He stresses integrity and authentic information over partisanship, and expresses hope—albeit with caution—that people in Europe and beyond can resist the push toward another devastating war.

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For those who want a skeptical, firsthand look at the Ukraine conflict and Europe’s political-economic games, this episode is essential listening.

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[David Rutherford]

The War in Ukraine actually lost? Today on the David Rutherford Show, I welcome international businessman and former combat veteran Steven Kuhn. Stephen man, thank you so much for coming on. The reason why I absolutely wanted to get you on is I watched one of your videos recently that you posted about Ukraine and it was so poignant and so direct as to what the actual ground scenario is going on of anything I've been hearing other than Scott Ritter recently. But I just, I really appreciate you coming on. I'm really looking forward to your insights.

[Steven Kuhn]

Hey, my pleasure. And the more we can get the message out, the better.

[David Rutherford]

Awesome. All right, current status of Ukraine from your perspective. Who's winning, who's not, where do they stand militaristically, financially and other key aspects of the relationships that are driving this?

[Steven Kuhn]

Well, you know, I have my intel's from both sides, so I sort of have a nice mix of it all. And there are, there's conflicting reports on just about everything you can talk about. But what I do know is that the European Union is, is, will not give up until this war is being fought. Like they will not give up. They, they're betting everything that they have on this war and they're losing it. Right? They're absolutely losing it. Ukraine's losing, they're losing more. I don't know what the, what the ratio is, but they're losing something like three to four to one soldiers. There's all kinds of, there's a big propaganda push against Russia right now. The gas lines, the, you know, everybody's broke, they're recruiting old, old troopers and things like that. But my guys, my ex SF, my ex special forces guys, SPEs, not guys or whatever, they're like, nah, it's not true. You know, Russia is very, in a very strong position. They could, they can milk this war for the Next three to five years, no problem at all.

[David Rutherford]

Wow.

[Steven Kuhn]

Right. Yeah. And so this is what they're telling me. So, you know, and that means, does Putin want to end this war and then like, sort of cut the borders and, you know, lay down a law, or does he want to basically suck the EU dry and teach my lesson? That's, that's where we're at right now, in my opinion. Because the EU will not. You know, on one hand, they say, we want peace, we want peace. And then they say, okay, let's do. Well, no, we're not going to talk to Russians. Well, how can you have peace without diplomacy? It just doesn't work. And then people say, why isn't the EU invited to these peace talks? It's because they have no legitimacy, they have no credibility. Most of the leaders, Macron, Vanderlan and all of these puppets, they literally have done nothing of substance in their entire life. And the ones who have, they're wanted in their own countries, like Fund the Lion is, you know, has criminal charges in Germany, and I forget the other guy's name from Portugal. The President, he's, he's also has charges against him in Portugal. So they send them to the EU and say, do what we say and you won't go to jail. And so they lie to you. They know they're lying. You know they're lying. The public knows they're lying. And everybody treats like it's real. It's an absolute farce. And it's a joke. And Russia knows it. Lavrov definitely knows it. And I've seen messages from him where he's pretty much at the point where it's like, look, we can't trust anybody anymore. Even Trump keeps flip flopping. He said something in public and he said something different in private, and he goes back to public and says something different again. And they said, we're gonna. What did he say? He said, we're going with the, with the Supreme Leader's decision to end this war our way.

[David Rutherford]

Wow.

[Steven Kuhn]

That was his words, specifically his words from Lavrov directly.

[David Rutherford]

Wow. Now, you know, just recently, Putin was interviewed for five hours and asked, just about answered every single question that the media asked him, almost to the point where it seemed like he was almost like Trump in his desire to just speak his mind in real time. What do you. Why do you think that the European, the people of the European Union, the people of the caucuses, why do you think they continue to listen to the propaganda that the EU is putting out?

[Steven Kuhn]

You know, it's hard to say, because they're not. They're not. I don't know anyone that's listening. Very few people are listening. The only ones that are listening is the same thing in the states that were the ones that have to hang on to the, to their structure of the entire life that they've built around these lies. They believe the Democrats or the liberals or we stand for peace and all this kind of stuff, but every action they take and every word they speak is the contrary and cognitive dissonance. You've heard of that before?

[David Rutherford]

Absolutely.

[Steven Kuhn]

But the people don't want this. The people don't want the word. There's people online. There's a big German push that people go online and they say, I denounce my government. I do not support this war, and they will not do it in my name in case they do it anyway. I want this for record, especially Germans, for obvious reasons.

[David Rutherford]

Right, absolutely.

[Steven Kuhn]

And then you have like the secret VW board meeting they had with the shareholders where they said, look, this is our worst year we've had in, in a long time, but next year we're going all the way up because we're going over into war production. So they're already planning this. Industry, big industry in Germany is already planning this. And it's a, it's a scary thing because they're planning it in order to ship everything to the Balkans and Baltics and the Slavic states in order to have the battle there. And that includes, of course, Hungary, which is one of the last, you know, sort of conservative strongholds in, in Central Europe, Central Eastern Europe. And so it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a quagmire right now. But the people, they don't want it. I don't know anybody who wants it. I don't know if you know, but I, you know, one of the co founders what became the AFD in Germany.

[David Rutherford]

Oh, wow.

[Steven Kuhn]

Three of us. Yeah. Myself, Beatrix from Storch and Svenfonstors. Beatrix is the vice chair right now. They were just in the White House two weeks ago with J.D. vance and with Jim Jordan. And, you know, they had to. Had a bunch of meetings about this.

[David Rutherford]

So the question I have, what happened to those. The individual politicians that were. That died right before the elections? I mean, I tried to search for any type of story I could, and I didn't find anything. What's going on with that?

[Steven Kuhn]

Well, the strange thing about that is I reached out to my intel guys. There was no wires from no embassy from, no intel, nothing. It's the strangest thing I've ever seen when it comes to intel because I've seen a lot of strange things, but I'm sure you have too.

[David Rutherford]

Yes, for sure.

[Steven Kuhn]

But there was seven out of 14. So 14 politicians died within a two week period. Seven of those were from AfD. One of them was regional, all the other ones were just citywide or even countywide. So very, very low level. No impact, no nothing. I looked, tried hard and the AfD leadership that I was speaking to said, it isn't what it looks like, don't worry about it. Just that answer right there showed me that it probably is something else. I couldn't find any information on it. Even the people that I know that aren't official, the official people, I couldn't find anything on it. What it seems to me is let's do something here at a low level and see what the reaction is and then see what happens later. And if you look at, you know, what they're doing in the Balkans and in the Slavic states where they're just annulling, you know, elections are in Poland where they sold half the election. People are accepting everything these days because the information flow is so quick. They get you on the next thing. It's distraction, distraction, distraction. And you're, you're distraction number three and two distractions ago they just killed somebody and you already forgot about it. So it's so fast moving right now. But the only reason they're moving this fast is because they're panicking, because they're losing control. Because Trump, believe it or not, is dismantling the world order. And it starts with the uk. I don't know if you know about all that, but the, you know, that kind of stuff they control. So yeah, yeah, so it's, they're moving really quick like this and they're doing whatever they can do to make it work and they will, you know, they have meetings every week with Zelensky and the EU and they're shaking hands and patent backs and everything. It's all just show they're not getting anything done. They're just pledging more and more money, which they don't have. That's Germany's, Germany's.

[David Rutherford]

That's the fascination. Because you, I know you do and you've done, have been very successful in international business, in particular over in Europe. Can you give us a break? Breakdown of the EU and those different countries where they're at versus Russia, where are they still buying Russian fuel? Like economically, are they prepared to go to war in the future. It doesn't seem like they are.

[Steven Kuhn]

They're not, because they are still buying Russian fuel. They're buying it directly from Russia. And if they're not buying it directly from Russia in order to skirt the sanctions, it goes Kazakhstan. And they do what they call a mix, right? A blend, and they'll take 1% Kazakh oil and put it in a barrel of 99% Russian oil and call it Kazakh oil. And they've been doing that since the war started. And I, I'm in that trade, oil and gas trade. So we know what. We know. That's what they're doing. And that's. That's an open secret. So they're spending billions of dollars a month on Russian energy. And there's. They're, They're, they're, you know, of course, for Trump, this is a perfect opportunity to sell them, you know, American energy, right? So that's, that's where he's leveraging this at. But still, it's not enough. They need this Russian energy, and so they're, they're beholden. They're basically financing their own enemy when they're buying the fuel. So think about it. They're sending him money. He's putting money into weapons and shooting back at him. It's, It's, it's, it's crazy. And that just shows you right there what kind of game this is. This is not about winning sovereignty of Ukraine. It's not about, you know, the Ukrainian liberty. The people that are suffering are the Ukrainians. My wife, you know, her parents, her house is gone. You know, they're here with us now in Turkey. We, we brought them out of. We brought them out of Ukraine, brought them here. Her apartment's there. Windows are blown out, doors are blown out, but her apartment's still there. Who knows if it'll ever be in place. She's in Kharkiv or from Kharkiv. The Ukrainians are suffering, and no one's doing anything about it. Everybody talks about, oh, yeah, you know, and, you know, Slava, Ukraine. You don't know jack about what's going on over there when you say that. Because the Ukrainians are like, yeah, then do something. If you care about us, then do something. But you're not doing anything. You're basically bolstering a puppet, a guy who's an actor, and all of the, all of the, The European Union leadership. I don't say the Europeans, but the European Union leadership on the line and her nine dwarfs that are out there trying to, you know, drive us into war no matter what. And there's our, there's a plan in place, there's a paper, there's a draft, everything's in place by 2029 to go full out war with Russia. And now they're trying to speed it up.

[David Rutherford]

Wow. You know, I watched the video that you posted with your wife and I was incredibly moved by that. You know, I mean, when you hear somebody from the region, you know, really kind of say, hey, this is not what we want, we want peace, Ukrainians want peace. And then you begin to realize the sheer, you know, control that like you said, the European Union and NATO in terms of mark root, you know, and their control over Zelensky as a puppet is staggering. You also posted a video about Viktor Orban. And I definitely want to get into him. But before I do, I want to give a shout out to one of our big sponsors, one of my favorites, Patriot Mobile. Every choice we make is an opportunity to stand up for freedom. Even something as simple as your cell phone service. Now here's the truth. Most cell phone providers don't care about you. They just want your money. Patriot Mobile is different. For over 12 years they've stood with Americans who believe in faith, family and freedom, contributing millions of dollars to Christian conservative causes. Best part is with Patriot Mobile you don't have to sacrifice quality or service. Patriot Mobile offers premium access to all three major US networks so you never have to worry about what kind of coverage you're going to get. Think switching is complicated? It's not. Keep your number, keep your phone or you can upgrade across the board. Patriot Mobile's 100% US based team will get you activated in just a few minutes. Stuck in a contract or still owe money on your phone? Not a problem at all. They even have a contract buyout program. So what are you waiting for? Go to patriotmobile.com rutherford or call 972 Patriot. Use promo code RUTHERFORD. That's R U T H E R F O R D for a free month of service. That's right, free month if you switch today. Right. That's patriotmobile.com Rutherford R U T H E R F O r d or call 972 Patriot.

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Mayflower.Com okay Stephen, you posted this video about Viktor Orban and said that you had lived there. Can you describe the importance of Hungary in preventing full scale war in the Balkans.

[Steven Kuhn]

Well, to put it bluntly, it's history. If you look at Hungary, it used to be the Hungarian Austrian Empire, right? And then if you look at Serbia, they were split up, Yugoslavia was split up. All of the, all of these Balkans, the Slavics and the Baltic states, they were all split up and gutted and raped from Western powers. And they didn't forget that. And Orban specifically started out as a student and protesting and he became then Prime Minister, you know, and then he, then he was unseated for a couple years and he came back. He's been here since 2010 and he's a very strong concern conservative. Yeah, there's corruption in his, in his, in his government just like everywhere else. You know, they built like, like, I don't know, like 18 football stadiums or, you know, soccer stadiums in one year because it was like a, like a tax thing or something. But, you know, people like to look at the things that are bad. But this is what I see when I go to Hungary and we go every two weeks or every two, two months, because we still got a place there. I'm gonna go there. It's homogenous. There's no crime, there's no immigrant gangs on the streets that are running after people. Now if I go to Berlin, whole different story. I'm going to Berlin. I'm, I'm like this the whole time. If I had a weapon, my hand will be on it all the time. That's Berlin. Right? Or if you go to Brussels, if you go to Holland, UK especially, Right, right. Right now it's, it's a bad place to be. And the east is like the central Eastern Europe, Hungary and those guys and, and partially Slovakia, right, is fighting against Poland. Half, you know, they got a globalist and they're half, half global. They're, they're fighting it. And Maloney, I still, the cards are still out on me for, for the Prime Minister of Italy. We're just in Italy two weeks ago and did a video there and ended up on the front page of the newspaper because we did it with an activist down there, right. She's playing both sides, it seems like to me. She's very strong talker, but she seems to be playing both sides. But in the end, this war that will be fought, will be fought, if it's fought. And hope, let's pray that it doesn't. It will be fought in the Balkans, the Slavic and the Baltic states, because they are what the EU leadership calls Expendables.

[David Rutherford]

Yeah.

[Steven Kuhn]

And it's just a shame because they are, they haven't been. What's the word? Soyanized. I don't know what the word is. But they, they don't have the DEI and the, all that kind of stuff.

[David Rutherford]

The esg, Right.

[Steven Kuhn]

Yeah, yeah. So they, they, they're still, the men are still men. And there's some hard ass other truckers too. I'll tell you. They don't take any from anybody. And so they're, they're standing strong. You know, I'm praying for them and I'm doing videos specifically for them to show them that the support is behind them, however much help that's going to give. I don't know. But the only thing that I see that we can do is keep calling this out. And more and more Germans, specifically, it's important for Germany because a lot of people don't understand that Germany, when Germany falls, the EU falls. Germany is the anchor of the EU economically. And, and as far as the powerhouse goes, also optically and psychologically, France isn't as big as they think they are.

[David Rutherford]

So they're in serious problems anyways. I don't think Marcon's going to be able to hold that government much longer at all. I mean, they're right on. Okay, so there was a great interview that I watched with Scott Ritter, former military guy with Mario Nafal, and talks about the Russian territory as in their, the tactics of that. Jordy, could you pop up that map for me?

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[David Rutherford]

And when I look at this map, I see all of the area that was in that vote. I think the vote was in 15 or 16 after the Maidan revolution. Right. And the Azov battalion started attacking those regions. And then I think Putin was just like, all right, let's tell everybody what it is. This is Russian speaking. This is our country. It's been our country. And as you know, his interview with Tucker since 1527 or whatever he says. And that's the way the Russians think about the world in centuries. Right. And, and when I look at that, I see them fully entrenched. They have what I've heard in some regions, five defensive lines already established along that line. And I, it's, I don't ever see those lines retracting. I haven't for the last year and a half. There were a couple forays into some of those northern regions. They pushed back a little bit, but then quickly were overrun afterwards. When you look at that map, based on not only your understanding of, you know, I Mean, you're a Bronze Star winner in combat. So you understand tactics, you understand. What do you see when you look at that map as it is right today?

[Steven Kuhn]

I think the number one most consistent strategy that Putin's been done this whole war, the number one, the most important thing he's done is restraint. He could have rolled over them like nobody's business. But remember. Well, let me ask you this. In the red zone there, why is there no sort of resistance? Why is there no revolution? Why is there no Ukrainians doing, you know, sort of attacks? Why is that? Because most of them are Russian speaking. They want peace and they're okay with it. Right? And like my wife, you know, she grew up speaking Russian. She's Ukrainian, but she grew up speaking Russian because she's from Harkov. And they speak Russian there, spoke Russian there until they changed the law and said, you can't do anymore. Anybody who couldn't speak Russian or couldn't speak Ukrainian lost her job. Zielinski didn't even speak Russian.

[David Rutherford]

I know. That's the funniest one I know.

[Steven Kuhn]

And so, you know, remember that those people that are there, they want the peace and they're okay with it. Otherwise, there'd be out, you know, there'd be bombings and there'll be attacks and all kinds of stuff. And there's not. There's peace on the, on the, you know, on the Eastern front, if you will. Will. And so when I see that, I see Putin saying, look, I'm holding off here, I'm restraining myself. I could go further. Let's just end this and let's keep it right here. But I'm not backing down. I'm keeping this border like I said I would. And NATO, you're not coming closer. If this is the border, then this is the border. And that's the way. That's. That's the way I see it. I don't see Ukraine making any forward movement. Now, if they bring tomahawks in there, which they haven't yet, and as far as I know, the budget isn't there until January, February anyway. So we have a. We have a lull time between now and January, and everyone's going to freak out in January, you watch. Because there'll be. The expenditures are going to start exploding because the budgets are free, right?

[David Rutherford]

Yeah.

[Steven Kuhn]

And I'll be like, oh, it's just normal spending. It's normal spending in January. It happens every year. January, March 1st quarter, it'll happen all the time. So just watch out for those fake puffs. And then of course, you have, so you have a, you have a trajectory now the people of the world, especially Europe, are getting sick of this. So they're starting to wake up. Then you have the trajectory of the war coming and the word's going to come through. False flag, right? I, I know a guy in the UK who's on one of the islands, I won't mention it, off the coast and there's an old American ship there, just sort of like, you know, set on the, set on the rocks and it's wired right now, he said, and the trick is to say, oh, Russian submarine blew it up, right? So they want to draw UK and they want to draw the European Union. And obviously they can't take a submarine into the, into central Europe. It's impossible. But, you know, so they're, they're trying to find a way to false flag us to death. And so far, thank goodness, there's been enough resistance where all of the false flag and there's been like four or five of them, they've been blown off like, oh, no, no, no, that's not real. We know that's not real. And then they just hit, you know, the two refineries in Hungary and Slovakia. So, you know, it's, it's, they're trying everything they can to say, look at, you know, Russia's bad. Now when I'm talking this way, I get accused to be in a Russia, Russia phobe all the time. I don't give a shit, tell you the truth. But here's the, here's the thing. If I'm telling you something and it's a black and white next to me and I'm reading it to you and it just happens to be pro Russia or anti Europe or the other way around, that doesn't mean that I'm taking sides. That just means this is what I see and this is what I'm reporting, right? But to get that through people's heads sometimes is really ridiculous. I'm sure you've experienced yourself when you start talking about this stuff to get it through people's heads, they don't even listen anymore. They shut down. And that's one of the biggest problems we have is no one listens anymore. They have a narrative that they believe. They believe it with their life. And they have to support feed and feed their bias and support it so that they have something to believe in. And I just, on my platform, I just offer another way to look at things. That's what I try to do. And so it's really important to me. Look, my wife and first of all, people make a joke about it. If my in laws lived with me, I'd want the war to be over too. That's not the case. But you know, it was funny when someone said that. But they're suffering here. You know, we got them covered. You know, we got, we got a place and a car and all kind of stuff, but they have nothing. They don't speak the language, they don't have a job, they can't work. They're both retired now and they have no, no way of living their life. They want to go back, they want to go home. They're even thinking about going home now. And I'm like, you ain't got nowhere to go. Yeah, but we want to go home. They just want to go home. That's the sentiment of most Ukrainians. And here's the worst part of it all is in Ukraine, a lot of Ukrainians, they just want peace, but they believe the narrative because there's only that narrative that Russia is bad and losing and we're going to take over and we're going to win. That's the only narrative that's in Ukraine right now. You can't, there's no foreign press getting in there. So it's also caused a big rift in families because for instance, my wife has aunts and stuff in Russia. Almost everyone in Ukraine has Russian relatives. At least in the east, almost all of them have Russian relatives. That's caused a lot of rift as well. A lot of problems with families that don't talk to each other anymore. It's a big mess. They want peace. They just want to live again. And unfortunately the Ukraine that they knew will never exist again.

[David Rutherford]

No, no, for sure. That's. Those are harsh realities that I think all these conflicts are determining.

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[David Rutherford]

If, if obviously I agree with you. I think this is a full effort to try and generate a hot war in this area for sure. Because I think they believe that if, if, if, if they can somehow engage Russia and pull Russia away from an alliance with, with China, that, that, that somehow brings the hegemony back to the globalists that exist within the European Union. And I, I, it's, yeah, it's all.

[Steven Kuhn]

You know, everyone talks about, you know, the, the rare minerals and the oil and all this kind of stuff. Stuff. But in the end it's all about the powers. The biggest powers in the world can never work together. Only two at a time.

[David Rutherford]

That's right.

[Steven Kuhn]

Right. Two at a time. So. And that's, you know, the British crown driving the wedge between everybody. All the time.

[David Rutherford]

All the time.

[Steven Kuhn]

Yep. And. And they push it on the blue and white guys, you know, from Israel. Oh, it's Israelis. It's Israelis. They're always pushing on Israelis when in, in fact, one. One step above them. You got the British crown and the British crown and all the people involved in that. And it's, it's just, it's, it's terrible. It's. It's, it's absolutely horrible because every single day we, we have no, we have no recourse. All we can do is talk about it right now. Right. And elect elections. The people running for election, forget about it. We need citizen leaders in every country. We need citizen leaders that step up like they did in Iceland. I don't know if you, if you knew about that, where they just walked in and said, you guys are done. We're taking over. No one gets paid. You got to work your normal job and run your company and then you run the, run the, the, you know, the government on the side.

[David Rutherford]

Totally.

[Steven Kuhn]

You know, that's how they did it. So we need citizen leadership. The world needs citizen leadership. And Victor Orban in Hungary. Yes. You know, some people say it's corrupt. I consulted their government when it, When Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice went there to try to unseat him with oodles and oodles of money from the Soros foundation, the Open Open Society. And Orban just kicked them out. He kicked out the Free University, sort of the European University, the Foundation, all of his NGOs, kicked them all out. Just like he kicked Monsanto out. He kicked them out. Get out of my country. He. He. A lot of people are mad at him because what he did is he. He nationalized private insurance, private pensions, like 401ks. Everybody went up in arms. What he did with that money is he paid off the IMF and kicked them out. That's why he can do what he does. He's not beholden.

[David Rutherford]

Right.

[Steven Kuhn]

That seems very dangerous.

[David Rutherford]

That seems to always be the key that these, A lot of these countries, they get into bed with the imf. They get these huge. For all infrastructure or whether their pension funds are tied to some international asset management company, whatever it might be. Right. They control because they give up their proxy voting shares. What I see, though, is every time I see a man on the street interview about young people from these areas and they ask, will you go fight in Ukraine, I don't ever see. I don't see people. You know, the Irish saying, yeah, I'm going. The English saying, I definitely. The Germans, there's no way they're going. Right. You know, I mean, you know, and. And then all those other countries, it's a joke. So who does the European Union think they're gonna get to fight this war?

[Steven Kuhn]

You're looking at them. You were there. I was there. Right? You were there.

[David Rutherford]

I just wanted to hear you say it, my man. I just want to. Wanted you to say it.

[Steven Kuhn]

Yeah, right. And it's. It's. They're. They're. You know, I hope Trump shows restraint as well, because we cannot do this. We cannot do this. We can't. You know, and here's the thing, is that without. Without soldiers, without people, there's no emotional connection to war. There's no heroes. There's no stories and stuff like that. So it'll be. It'll be sort of a technocratic war, and it won't mean anything to anybody, which is almost worse, because then no one pays attention to it.

[David Rutherford]

That's right. That's right.

[Steven Kuhn]

So it's. It's. It's such a crazy time. We're in, not only because of the war, but also because of the changes that we're seeing with a. And all this kind of stuff where we could almost fight a war with no people at all.

[David Rutherford]

It's close.

[Steven Kuhn]

Yeah. Robots, AI, drones, all that stuff, you know, so it's. It's a. It's a scary place to be. And right here, I mean, in Turkey, we. We live on the Med. Literally 100ft from here is a Mediterranean. Every day, fighter jets. You know, I love it, but, you know, this is a vacation place where people come to vacation. The fifth most visited city on the planet.

[David Rutherford]

Right.

[Steven Kuhn]

And there's. Now there's fighter jets flying over here. And there's no. There's a specific reason for that. So, yeah, it's changing, man. It's changing. And then Americans, bless our soul, we're still so far away from all this that it's, you know, we have enough stuff going on as ourselves that unfortunately, it goes, you know, falls under the rug too often. And it's just. For me, it's almost like. Like a dude. I. I always felt like. I'm sure you did, too, as a military man, as. And then after I got out, I've been away from the States for, you know, on and off for 37 years.

[David Rutherford]

Wow.

[Steven Kuhn]

And I always feel like I'm an ambassador So I have to act right, act, you know, do, do business. Right. High integrity, speak clearly, always be the ambassador for America as a civilian, as, as a, as, as a contractor, as a business guy. And I, I've been invited on Turkish tv. I've been, you know, and spoken to on the streets and hey, wow, you know, what's it really like? Thank you so much and all those kind of things. And, and if everyone did that and we would just quit bitching at each other and complaining and left and right, front and center, man, this place where this would be ending ended real quick because you know, we are so many more than they are. So many more.

[David Rutherford]

So many more. Well, Steve and I can't thank you enough for your time. Where can people follow you, pay attention to what you're doing and then also tell us about your business and then the book that you wrote too, please.

[Steven Kuhn]

Sure. So you can find me almost on any channel. Steven Eugene Kuhn K U H N whether it's Instagram, TikTok, although TikTok's got me. I used to do, you know, two videos a week, over a million views. Now it's like I'm lucky if I get 5000. They've really dial it down. Instagram, TikTok x I don't know what it is. Stephen Coon, Stephen something or other. You'll find me and then link LinkedIn as well. Steven Eugene My business we, I've, you know, a few businesses, my wife has a few businesses but the core business is we raise capital through a growth advisory for, you know, different, different projects. Whether it's green, you know, solar energy, hydrogen, we do some lifestyle brands in the States and things like that. We've done. My partner and I done 2.71 billion this year so far and we're quite successful at that. Well, quite successful that because we have urgency and that's just, everything's about urgency. And right now people are saying, oh, it's hard to get money. It's the easiest time to get money that I've ever had my entire life because people want to secure the, at the capital capital with assets in case there's a crash. So right now is a better time, best time than many to get the money. And then if anybody wants to pick up my book, Unleash youh Humble Alpha. This book is, it's a step by step guide in building a foundation where you become 100 certain in your abilities to deploy your genius in any given situation where you become unstoppable. And it's, it's not a joke either. It's actually in about 10 universities in America as a curriculum right now. Harvard and Stanford are looking at it as well. I didn't write it for that. It just came out that way. Well, so. So it's a pleasure to be on. I really appreciate it. David, I was surprised that you wrote me, and I'm glad you did.

[David Rutherford]

Yeah. Well, thank you very much. Your insights are phenomenal. You're a very wise guy and you're humble and you're gracious about how you spread your wisdom. And so hopefully my audience will follow you and continue to pay attention and keep up the motivational stuff too. By the way, I love when smart men give motivational advice too.

[Steven Kuhn]

Thank you so much. It's in me. I can't help it. And I'm sure you're the same.

[David Rutherford]

Absolutely. God bless you. Take care, Steven.

[Steven Kuhn]

Take care.

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