Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H1 - Buck's Beloved NYC

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Episode: Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H1 - Buck's Beloved NYC
Date: November 1, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the upcoming New York City mayoral election, the ideological divisions within the Democratic party, and the rise of far-left candidates, with a focus on Zoran Mamdani. Clay and Buck explore what the results could mean for New York City and the country at large, highlighting issues like victimhood politics, socialism, crime, and the shifting narratives around 9/11. They debate Kamala Harris's political future and critique various public figures, bringing in sharp wit and their signature banter. The episode features audio clips from the candidates, analysis of campaign dynamics, and a preview of their upcoming interview with Curtis Sliwa, the Republican candidate.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Upcoming NYC Mayoral Race: Candidates and Stakes

• Buck expresses strong feelings for NYC as "the world's greatest city" ([00:35]):
  • “It does not matter. There could be nuclear winter in New York and I would still think it is the greatest city. And there kind of was because Bill de Blasio was the mayor for a number of years and that was pretty horrific.”
• The main candidates discussed:
  • Zoran Mamdani: Cast as a radical leftwing socialist, labeled by Buck as “Mamdani the Commie”.
  • Andrew Cuomo: Running as an independent; Buck argues Cuomo’s campaign is weak and derivative.
  • Curtis Sliwa: Republican, called a “long shot,” but will join the show later to make his case.
• Buck predicts Mamdani will win:
  • “I think Momdani’s winning the New York City mayor’s race. Yeah. From everything that I’ve seen so far, I would love it if Sliwa would win. But I think... let the chips fall where they may at this point.”

2. Democratic Party Infighting and the Far Left

• Both hosts discuss a “civil war” within the Democratic party—between moderates like Cuomo and the far-left embodied by Mamdani ([30:40]):
  • Cuomo (clip): “You have an extreme left, radical left, Bernie Sanders, AOC. Mamdani is just the banner carrier for that... I believe that far left will destroy the Democratic Party. I believe it will destroy the Democratic Party nationwide if that far left becomes dominant.”
  • Clay: “I think he’s 100% right about this, Buck. The problem is... what he is pointing to, I think actually benefits Mamdani in New York City.”

3. Victimhood Politics and Shifting Narratives (Post-9/11)

• The hosts dissect Mamdani’s narrative of anti-Muslim victimization post-9/11, criticizing its accuracy and underlying motives ([07:27]–[09:49]):
  • Buck notes, “Mamdani had to create some version of victim status for himself to be truly worthy of the left wing adulation that he has.”
  • Clay argues, “He knows what he’s doing. He’s trying to change the history and the narrative and make his side the victims.”
  • Both hosts repeatedly reference comedian Norm MacDonald’s joke about post-atrocity victim narratives, making it a running theme.
  • Clay’s sharp analogy ([11:34]):
    • “If 20 people in Clay and Buck gear showed up and committed a mass murder... I don’t think I would want to wear a Clay and Buck shirt in the city where the mass murder happened the next day.”

4. Critique of Far-Left Ideology and Crime Policy

• Clips of Mamdani play, revealing his views on policing and incarceration ([23:28]):
  • Mamdani: “...prisons are set up in our society. I would argue that they do not work, they do not make us safer.”
  • Buck reacts: “When someone has been arrested 50 or 100 times, which is not unusual in New York City... the problem, according to Mamdani, is us, is everybody else.”
• On Mamdani’s rhetoric equating NYPD and IDF, and calling Israel an apartheid state:
  • Clay: “All of this is gobbledygook university campus talk... he believes in the idea that Israel is an apartheid state, that the NYPD exists as a colonialist occupier... That's what he believes.”
  • Buck: “That’s like Protocols of the Elders of Zion kind of antisemitism. Yes. And anti Jew.”

5. Wider Cultural and Political Implications

• The conversation turns to how narratives and ideologies from global issues like the Israel-Palestinian conflict are imported into American politics and college campuses ([32:59]):
  • Clay: “...They are exporting the same arguments from Israel in the Middle East to the United States... Mamdani’s dad wrote a book post 9/11 saying the United States and Al Qaeda were moral equivalents.”
• Buck reiterates the dangers: “That’s always in there somehow. Always a part of it, isn’t it, with these Islamo fascist types.”

6. Kamala Harris, Identity Politics & Democratic Optics

• Early segment skewers Kamala Harris and, especially, former press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre ([03:19]):
  • Buck: “The single best thing that Kamala Harris has going for the rehabilitation of her Democrat standing is the Karine Jean Pierre book tour, which is a glorious catastrophe.”
  • Clay: “She just kept coming back to her chosen default line, which is, well, I’m black and gay. And that identity is both cloak and shield that she believes protects her from any consequences...”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Buck on NYC pride:

  “There could be nuclear winter in New York and I would still think it is the greatest city. And there kind of was because Bill de Blasio was the mayor...”
  [00:35]

• Clay on shifting post-9/11 narratives:

  “The idea that the story of 911 within a quarter century... would be mobilized as a story about the unfair treatment of people who were of the Muslim faith is... incredibly alarming.”
  [08:08]

• On left-wing victimhood politics:

  “Left wing victimology dictates that when somebody from the left or from a group that you generally like or whatever does a terrible thing, you have to go in the other direction. You are the real victim.” —Buck
  [13:01]

• Clay’s SNL analogy:

  “If a bunch of you in our gear committed a mass murder, I don’t think I would want to wear a Clay and Buck shirt in the city where the mass murder happened the next day.”
  [12:04]

• Cuomo on Democrat civil war:

  “There's a quiet civil war going on in the Democratic Party right now. You have an extreme left, radical left... versus the mainstream moderate Democrats... I believe that far left will destroy the Democratic Party.”
  [30:40]

• Buck on Mamdani’s anti-cop/anti-Israel rhetoric:

  “That’s like Protocols of the Elders of Zion kind of antisemitism. Yes. And anti Jew. And this guy’s going to become the mayor of New York City...”
  [28:28]

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment or Quote | |-----------|------------------| | 00:35 | Buck’s passionate defense of NYC & race overview | | 03:19 | Discussion opens on Kamala Harris, Karine Jean-Pierre’s book tour | | 07:27–08:08 | Mamdani defends subway Islamophobia story; Buck and Clay respond | | 11:34 | Clay’s analogy about group identity and logic post-tragedy | | 23:28 | Mamdani’s criminal justice reform stance; Buck & Clay critique | | 25:08, 26:12 | Mamdani’s comments on apartheid/state power & NYPD-IDF relations | | 30:40 | Cuomo clip on internal Democratic conflict | | 32:59 | Clay: global ideology import; Mamdani family’s controversial writings | | 39:10+ | Predictions for election outcome, preview of Sliwa interview |

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Flow and Tone

The tone is humorous yet sharply critical, marked by Clay and Buck’s back-and-forth banter and use of pop culture references. They blend policy critique with satire and personal anecdotes, making complex ideological issues accessible. The tone is openly conservative, skeptical of progressive victimhood narratives, and deeply concerned about the political trajectory of New York City.

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In Summary

For listeners who missed the episode, this installment offers a deep dive into the NYC mayoral race and the broader struggle over the soul of American liberalism. Clay and Buck argue that narratives of victimhood, identity, and far-left ideology are profoundly shaping politics in NYC and beyond. They warn of the consequences of electing candidates like Mamdani and critique both the left and legacy media's role. The episode sets the stage for a lively interview with Curtis Sliwa, promising further fireworks as the election approaches.

Transcript

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Clay, I got a fever. And the only prescription is more election analysis here on Clay and Buck. Because election day just days away. I know it's an off year and so we're not laser focused on this every day for months like we will be next year. But there's some big contests that are underway, some important ones. Just to recap, we have a reasonable chance, reasonable in Virginia, of maybe keeping the governor's mansion if a spam burger is seen for the. The milquetoast fraud that she is. Uh, we'll see. Then there's also the New Jersey governor's race with Cittarelli, whom I think is our best chance actually at an upset. And I don't want to, I don't want to jinx it, but that I think of the three. And then we have the fate of my beloved nyc, the Big Apple, I think America and the world's greatest city, in my opinion and people who are born there. We have to say that always and forever it is a requirement of having been born and raised in New York City. It does not matter. There could be nuclear winter in New York and I would still think it is the greatest city. And there kind of was because Bill de Blasio was the mayor for a number of years and that was pretty horrific. And then there was Covid, and that was pretty horrific. So let's take a look at what's going on with the Zoran Mamdani situation. You have really a contest underway of awful versus really bad versus great but long shot. And the long shot is of course, our friend Curtis Sliwa, who will be with us later on one hour. In one hour, Mr. Curtis Lewa. We have asked and he has graciously said he will join us here on the program. And we really do want to hear him out on why he believes he can win, why he thinks staying in the race is so important, and what he thinks of the other two who are vying for the job of mayor of America's largest city. Just a couple of other notes, a couple of other things to put on the menu, so to speak. Kamala Harris. Not everybody's as confident as Clay that Kamala Harris is, in fact, going to be in a good position to run as a Democrat. There are some people who just gonna run.

[Clay Travis]

I'm not sure what her position is gonna be, but I'm confident she's gonna run.

[Buck Sexton]

I think she's definitely gonna run. I, I see that as well. We sh. We shall see. It is just a question of she will not be the nominee. I, I, that I don't think Clay and I disagree on at all. Um, it's a question of what she thinks is better for her brand. I will say the single best thing that Kamala Harris has going for the rehabilitation of her Democrat standing is the Karine Jean Pierre book tour, which is a, A glorious catastrophe. I mean, it's some of the worst interviews about a book tour I've ever seen a person give. Astonishing, Clay, that this woman who is quick to remind everybody is in fact, black and a member of the LGBTQ community, in fact, she says that I think more than anything else about herself on a regular basis. That she was the White House press secretary is staggering in retrospect, considering the way that she answers questions like, wait, what are you saying? And hold on a second. Go back. What do you mean by that? And the answers never come.

[Clay Travis]

And from the New Yorker. I mean, she, she did an interview with the New Yorker. I think she probably expected, because she's black and gay, that the New Yorker would protect her from looking like a moron. And the rules have at least changed enough that the New Yorker interviewer, who probably has 50 IQ points on Karine Jean Pierre, just couldn't even comprehend what her answers were or make sense of any of them from a logical perspective. And to your point, Buck, she just kept coming back to her chosen default line, which is, well, I'm black and gay. And that identity is both cloak and shield that she believes protects her from any consequences for anything she says or does. And sadly, there are a lot of people. I mean, I would argue to a large extent, that's the foundation of the Democrat Party. There are white, White men are evil, and if you're black and gay, you can do no wrong. And Karine Jean Pierre is just playing what she thinks are the rules of the Democrat Party and getting blown up by the New Yorker.

[Buck Sexton]

We're going to return to this because Stephen Miller, who is fabulous, fabulous Stephen Miller also, unsurprisingly, has a fabulous spouse, Katie Miller, who is doing great work out there. She's doing phenomenal work out there on her podcast. We will get to what she says as well about the book tour of the former White House press secretary. So anyway, but, but I will say, Clay, the best thing Kamala has going for right now is that her book and book tour compared to Karine Jean Pierre's book and book tour, this is like, you know, Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel. Okay? I mean, it is. It looks amazing by comparison. We'll get into that. Now, Mamdani, this is the election that has a lot of attention all across the country because of the symbols that are at stake here. You have Mamdani the Commie. Ok? This guy is a Democrat, socialist, also known as a socialist. And if you look at the early communists, they all referred to themselves as socialists. So we're starting to parse already here, aren't we? This is a guy who has said the worst things imaginable about police, about prisons, about running grocery stores, about rent control. I mean, he's, he's just wrong on everything. But he smiles and he seems pleasant. He also lies, though. Clay this is local NYC Spanish language station La Mega 97.9 W S Key WSK Q F M Zoran is trying to tell every Remember how he said that his aunt couldn't ride the subway after 911 because of Islamophobia? Turns out that's not true. And also, she never even wore a hijab. Play cut one. Here's how he explains it.

[Zoran Mamdani (audio clips)]

I was at the press conference yesterday. They said, can you tell us who your aunt is, who you were referring to? I said, yes, this is my aunt. This is my Zarafui. This is my father's cousin. And this was her story.

[Buck Sexton]

So how can you convince New Yorkers, if that is the type of person that you are, in other words, that.

[Zoran Mamdani (audio clips)]

You don't tell the truth? Well, it's not a lie. My father's cousin is my aunt. That's how I referred to her growing up my whole life. Seraphui and I think to to have the takeaway from the New York Post and so many others after I gave a speech outside of a mosque for 10 minutes about the Islamophobia we've seen in this race and in our politics to be the question of whether or not Zarafui was my aunt.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay, he didn't lie. He just said something that was untrue, got caught and now wants to move.

[Clay Travis]

On and conveniently is now pointing to someone who's dead that cannot be tracked down to talk about anything here. And this is the Norm MacDonald joke brought to fruition for those of you who remember Norm MacDonald, Saturday Night Live comedian, among many other jobs that he had when Saturday Night Live was actually, was actually a show show worth watching. Who memorably said when nuclear war happened and basically the population was wiped out, can you imagine the Islamophobia that might arise? And you know, if you Remember back in 911 as you well do, Buck, 24 years ago now, the idea that the story of 911 within a quarter century of 911 having happened would be mobilized as a story about the unfair treatment of people who were of the Muslim faith is I think a leave aside everything else, I mean never forget obviously is the message that many people who live through 911 continue to reiterate, including our friends at Tunnel of Towers who I helped raise money for just a couple of weeks ago. But for the story to shift 24 years later as an argument for why New York should elect a Muslim mayor to. In the aftermath of 911 there was actually really unfair treatment of people of this religious faith. Regardless of how the election goes, Buck is incredibly alarming. I think for the future of New York City.

[Buck Sexton]

Look, Mamdani had to create some version of victim status for himself to be truly worthy of the left wing adulation that he has. Right. He. And by the way, the, the method by which white Democrats do this is going even more, you know, hardcore on how bad white men are. Right. This is the, that's how you get around it. You go, oh my gosh, I'm part of, as a white man, I'm part of the problem for Mamdani, obviously not white. What he says is, oh, I've suffered the Islamophobia. I've suffered all this Islamophobia, which as, as I've said is a nonsense term, an absurd term meant to shut down debate and discussion and legitimate criticism of factions within a faith that have engaged in a lot of violence, including the biggest terrorist attack in the history of the modern world. So yes, that is something that we should be able to look at. But Clay, it's not also unusual for the left. I want to focus this back into Mom Donna here. I know you do too in a second. But just something that as you were talking about this. The horrible thing happens committed by a group that is ideologically motivated to do it. And then we're told the real problem is that group may be targeted. That's not just with, with Islam, radical Islam and terrorism. For example, look what happened after the Covington shooting in Tennessee. When you have these trans mass murdering school shooters, what do you see all over blue sky and a little bit on Twitter and on msnbc. Oh, just think of all the blowback on the trans community now. No blowback on the trans community. We just don't want people shooting people. And if there are people that are being told they should shoot people because there's terrible stuff that's being done, that's a genocide, that's a lie, we should address that.

[Clay Travis]

Look, if 20 people in clay and Buck gear showed up and committed a mass murder anywhere in the United States, I am on the Clay and Buck show and I would be like, maybe I shouldn't wear Clay and Buck gear the next day. Like, can we just go to the logic of this? Like if, if, if you don't even.

[Buck Sexton]

Like this though the Clam Buck audience.

[Clay Travis]

I get it, but I'm sorry, the.

[Buck Sexton]

Only random acts they're going to commit are, are, are hugs and, and, and hanging out and beer and American flag.

[Clay Travis]

Just kind of run through the logic here. You are Buck, I am Clay. If for people who don't know if, like we are Clay and Buck, if a bunch of you in our gear committed a mass murder, I don't think I would want to wear a Clay and Buck shirt in the city where the mass murder happened the next day. And then my name is Clay. So like, the whole idea of if people that you are connected to in any form or fashion, take away the religious aspect in any form or fashion, like this is like even the argument, oh, well, they were worried that people might. Well, hey, if people connected to you in any way have committed the worst terror atrocity in modern American life, I don't think it's crazy for you to think to yourself, hey, people might associate me with them. And by the way, that's rational. You're, you're.

[Buck Sexton]

But left wing victimology dictates that when somebody from the left or from a group that you generally like or whatever does a terrible thing, you have to go in the other direction. You are the real victim. You are the one that actually needs to be, you know, thought of and people need to be offering prayers for. It's the Norm MacDonald joke made real, which is, imagine if there was a nuclear attack On New York City, think, just think of all the Islamophobia, right?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

That is Zoran Mamdani. That is left wing, boo hoo, poor me nonsense. And it's not just Zoron. It is also tied in to the basic emotional impulses of socialism, which is always rooted in authoritarianism of there's inequality in society. Give me a lot of power as the socialist, as the people running, you know, the socialist entity, and I will equalize everything. It's a very bad idea. It never works. It always destroys. Check out Venezuela, Cuba, the Soviet Union. Just go down the list.

[Clay Travis]

I just, I just. Yes, all of that is true. I think it's really funny. If you take it outside of religion and just think about whatever group it is and wearing their gear, the next day you'd be like, yeah, I don't. I don't really think I want to do that. And that is the cultural touchstone litmus test that Mamdani now takes 24 years later as the lesson of 9 11. I feel bad for people who had to live in New York City in the aftermath of 9 11. I feel way worse for all the people who died.

[Buck Sexton]

You're thinking about this three layers of analysis deeper than Mamdani. Mamdani's just like, I'm a victim too.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, totally.

[Buck Sexton]

Look what happened to my family. Right? I mean, he doesn't even. You're going to the actual reality the truth of this. He doesn't. It doesn't matter to him. He just wanted to complain.

[Clay Travis]

The scary thing is Buck kids today in college, all of them were born post 9 11. And we may think it's ridiculous when Mamdani says, hey, my aunt was a victim of 9 11. She didn't feel comfortable on public transit in the city. Even if he's completely lying. Some of these moron kids out there who haven't experienced 911 and don't have any historical knowledge, which unfortunately is huge majorities of the American population. School children wise, they look around and they think to themselves, well, that was really bad because of this toxic empathy. He knows what he's doing. He's trying to change the history and the narrative and make correct his side, the victims.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay travis BUCK SEXTON SHOW Things are gonna get spicy here in the next hour. In about 40 minutes from now, we're gonna talk with Curtis Sliwa and Buck, we've been talking about the overall election in New York City in particular, turnout is skyrocketing. So I mentioned this yesterday. This may be the largest turnout in a New York city election since 1993 when Rudy Giuliani won. The prediction markets have had a bit of a surge in the direction of Andrew Cuomo. When we come back, Andrew Cuomo was on with Maria Bartiromo this morning on FOX Business and really took a 2 by 4 to the left of the Democrat Party. And we will play all of that for you when we come back because again, the math out there is the math. And we'll ask Curtis about this. I think, unfortunately, Buck, when we get these results come in, there are going to be more people who vote for Cuomo and for Sliwa than vote for Mom Donnie. But I think Mom Donnie is on track to win because he's going to have the most of three candidates. Would it change if Sleewa were out?

[Buck Sexton]

I think Sliwa is going to disagree.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in. We're talking about this big race in nyc. Going to give you our thoughts on this. And remember Curtis Sliwa, the Republican candidate in this. You have a Democrat commie is Mamdani. And then you got Cuomo as the independent, really a third party candidate here. And then you have Curtis Sliwa running as the Republican in this race. Curtis is going to make his case. Many of you in the New York area have been saying, hey guys, you got to have Curtis on. Of course we're going to have Curtis on. And we have tried to have Cuomo on. He is dodging and weaving and stalling. Kind of like his campaign. Yeah, not really taking anything all that seriously. Cuomo turns out not very good at politics. That's a thing that can happen when you've only gotten where you are because people know your last name, because daddy was the governor for a long time. So this is what we have seen with him. But let's dive in, Mr. Clay, to more of this, more of this Mamdani stuff out there. I don't know which is the worst one of these two. So let me start with this. These are flashbacks. Now this is 2020, 2021. I would argue the campaign is saying. The Mamdani campaign is saying, oh, he's evolved. No, actually, what you saw with people in 2020 and 2021 is what do they really think? Because when all of a sudden they felt free to be as radical left and insane as they want with no, not only. No consequence, but. But it was in their interest to do so they let it rip. So they showed you who they really were in 2020 and 2021, whether it was on Covid or BLM or any of these things. Clay here is Momdani on police and prisons in August of 2020 before that election. That as we. Oh, we'll talk about that another time. This is cut four.

[Zoran Mamdani (audio clips)]

Play it the way that prisons are set up in our society. I would argue that they do not work, they do not make us safer. The instinct is to just take that person, the source of that harm, the source of that issue, and then just throw them away, put them in a cage and throw away the key. That doesn't address the reason why that harm was created in the first place, a lot of times people who create trauma for others are those who themselves went through trauma earlier in their own lives. And I bring all of this up to say that, you know, again, like when we talk about policing, I don't think the system actually makes us safer. I think what it does is it just removes problems out of view.

[Buck Sexton]

So, Clay, when someone has been arrested 50 or 100 times, which is not unusual in New York City for the criminal class, the problem, according to Mamdani, is us, is everybody else is the law abiding people of New York City. Prisons don't make us safer. This is why old ladies can't walk down the street. In some cities in America, including some neighborhoods, New York overall is pretty safe. But some neighborhoods of New York, without getting some maniac punching them in the face.

[Clay Travis]

How much of this. And we've got other cuts that I think we need to play too. So prisons don't make us safer. We also have. This is more detailed and this sounds like a lot of sort of, I would say, colonialism clap trap that is taught as people like his dad. But here he says that he got into politics to fight apartheid from the inside. Let's play this too. This is cut three. This is from June of 2021.

[Zoran Mamdani (audio clips)]

I respect that there are many differences of opinion about the value of electoralism, the value of engaging with the state. But I do think that as long as the state has this monopoly on violence, then we have to contest the state at every which point and every which place. And there is an opportunity to have our voices heard within the state. And obviously by becoming a member of the state in terms of its political class, you are compromised because you're legitimizing it in many ways. But I think if I didn't see the ability for us to claim victories from the inside, then I wouldn't be doing this.

[Clay Travis]

Okay. I mean, he is a committed left wing ideologue. Let's also play cut TO this is June 5, 2021. This is where he says the NYPD and the IDF. If you're wondering, like, how in the world did so many leftists end up in this world where they're camping on campuses, they're protesting. This is the kind of talk that propels that. This is very common on college campuses.

[Zoran Mamdani (audio clips)]

Cut to the cruelty of what is happening in Israel, in Palestine, it is a cruelty that is systematized and does not simply rise and fall when the IDF decides to kill men, women, children and families. Beyond the binary in Palestine, in different moments of Spikes, I think of how the NYPD and the IDF have had a relationship for many years, a relationship that has meant, you know, tactics of oppression, crossing from one country to the other. And that has meant an increased surveillance and oppression of marginalized people wherever they may be.

[Clay Travis]

So, I mean, all of this is gobbledygook university campus talk. But what's important here, Buck, and we hit on this yesterday, and I think it's important for all of you is to understand that when he says he's disavowing this, everyone who hears this knows that he is lying when he's saying he disavows this because this is not some off the cuff comment that happened to be made and it's not deeply thought. He believes he intellectually in the idea that Israel is an apartheid state, that the NYPD exists as a colonialist occupier to put their boots on the throats of minority, and that you must overthrow the systems of government that exist in the United States in order for the people to truly be free. That's what he believes. So you can't suddenly say, oh, I misspoke a few times back in 20 and 21. And you're right, this was the era when leftists felt the most free to say what they truly believed because their power was in ascendance.

[Buck Sexton]

And he's mentioning the IDF here, which you might say, what does that have to do with the, the nypd? So I was in NYPD Intelligence now Bureau, formerly Division. And yeah, the NYPD has relationships with, with law enforcement in Israel. It also has relationships with law enforcement in dozens of countries all over the world. In the UK in Australia, in France, you know, in Japan. Find me a country that America has a close relationship with. And there's a pretty good chance the NYPD has some kind of liaison relationship with that country. Why, why the idf like, or rather why Israel?

[Clay Travis]

Right.

[Buck Sexton]

We know the answer, but it's just so, it's just so telling that he, he finds this little thing. Oh, because the New York Police Department has a relationship with law enforcement in Israel, mostly in Tel Aviv. There's some nefarious thing going on here. And what was the line he used that when it's the boots of the nypd, the IDF is lacing them up. I mean, that's really, that's like Protocols of the Elders of Zion kind of antisemitism. Yes. And anti Jew. And this guy's going to become the mayor of New York City, which actually has more, I think it has more Jewish people in New York City than Tel Aviv. So that's interesting that this guy is somehow going to be the mayor of New York, but a lot of Upper west side Jewish Americans are going to vote for this guy. Clay. That's the part that's so crazy.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And also, I would say, if Jews were really running the country, don't you think they could maybe have a mayor who doesn't hate them in New York City? I mean, for people. Because there's people on the right now who say, oh, you're owned by Israel. Oh, Israel's running everything. Okay. Don't you think if Israel was running everything, that they would pick someone as mayor of New York City who, as Buck just pointed out, has a large Jewish population that doesn't hate them? And this is honestly where Andrew Cuomo, who is also an awful candidate, there's all this stuff out there that Mamdani has said that should be fertile for anyone who is good at politics or running campaigns, which evidently Andrew Cuomo is not. I think partly it's that he's still relying on legacy media because that's how he has fueled his entire political career. And legacy media every day becomes less powerful and less popular. And, Mom, Donnie has leaned into stupid TikTok videos and doing ads during the Bachelor and all these things that people in their 20s and 30s look at and are connected to. Let's listen to this. This is Cuomo a little bit earlier today on Fox Business with Maria Bartiromo saying, the left wing of the Democrat Party will destroy the Democrats.

[Buck Sexton]

Listen, there's a quiet civil war going on in the Democratic Party right now. You have an extreme left, radical left, Bernie Sanders, aoc. Mamdani is just the banner carrier for that movement versus the mainstream moderate Democrats. They now call me moderate. They used to call me liberal. Now I'm a moderate because the whole party shifted. And that's what this election is about. It is that civil war. I believe that far left will destroy the Democratic Party. I believe it will destroy the Democratic Party nationwide if that far left becomes dominant.

[Clay Travis]

I think he's 100% right about this, Buck. The problem is what he is pointing to, I think actually benefits Mamdani in New York City, because I think a lot of young people are frustrated. And when you are frustrated, you challenge the consensus candidates, people in positions of power, the guys who know how to talk to all the CEOs. You live through this. Occupy Wall street is just a form of what Mamdani is basically arguing now, distilled in a more articulate front, facing version, you may be able to speak to it. I don't remember. Was there ever a really great spokesperson for Occupy Wall Street? I don't remember one who really kind of captivated the nation. Mamdani is in many ways a voice for that anger that has been percolating in New York City for a long time.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, it was fascinating about Occupy Wall street was. It was done under the Obama administration.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And so there was all those. The people in charge. I mean, not Obama, but, like, the other people are like, really bad. So if it had been a Republican, it would have had a lot more oomph behind it. Yeah, right. But people have said it was more a meme than a movement. I think that's probably an accurate description of it. But it did. It did have a lot of the class warfare stuff going on, and it was a collective, so there was no individual spokesperson for it. But isn't interesting. Occupy Wall street and the first iteration of BLM happened on Obama's watch.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. Which.

[Buck Sexton]

Which was so. So it was this game of like, we're so upset at the people in charge. They're all bought off by corporate interests. But not Obama. I mean, he's basically Jesus. I mean, he's. He's incredible. He's a deity.

[Clay Travis]

This also, by the way, with Mamdani. I think this is so important for those of you out there who say, well, I don't care about what happens in the Middle East. I don't care about what happens in Israel. They are exporting the same arguments from Israel in the Middle east to the United States now. And this is a story that I wanted to hit Buck, and I'll mention it right now, but Mamdani's father, we played the cut yesterday of him saying Abraham Lincoln was Hitler's motivation as his guide for the Holocaust. Mamdani's dad wrote a book post 911 saying the United States and Al Qaeda were moral equivalents because the US Invaded Afghanistan, which he saw as a similar in nature act as the attack on the World Trade Centers. And you say, okay, well, that's crazy. This is what they have argued that Israel's response to October 7, when 1200 Jews were killed, two hundreds of them were captured and held hostage for years, that Israel was the moral equivalent of Hamas in the way that they responded. And this argument started with, oh, yeah, sure, 9 11, Al Qaeda flew into American skyscrapers and killed thousands of people. But America's response to Al Qaeda was in fact the same as Al Qaeda. And in fact, the Mamdani's dads of the world Buck, as you well know, because you saw it happen at your school, argued that America deserved it because we actually started and provoked the 911 attack in their mind, based on things that America had done in the past.

[Buck Sexton]

Including of course being friends with Israel.

[Clay Travis]

So there was that.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you. All right Buck, I'm spending Saturday as we get ready for Curtis Lewa. If you want an autographed copy of the new book balls yes Balls, you go to clay travis balls.com it is list price. That is what the book cost. I am signing all of them while watching college football on Saturday. Book comes out on Tuesday. You can go buy it everywhere. I appreciate you. I want to try to drive this the number one overall in the New York Times bestseller list, which I have never been before. I don't know if they'll ever put me there, but that's the goal and I would like to be able to sign books for you. Not going to be on the road this fall for that. So if you want an autographed copy right now, this week only, you have to go to clay travis balls.com I am signing them all Saturday. Really signing them Buck. Unlike Joe Auto Pin Biden, I will sit there, we will post a video. I will sign them all while I am watching college football. But again, if you want an autographed copy, only one place to get them. Clay Travis balls.com Clay Travis I promise you the website is safe. My name balls name of the book is balls. Clay Travis balls.com All right Buck. Curtis Sliwa is about to join us. All of the numbers reflect that Mamdani is facing a real charge from Cuomo. Curtis Lewis not going to drop out, but I am afraid that when we wake up on Wednesday morning, we are going to look at the total number of votes that have come in and I'm going to tell Curtis this right off the top when we join him. When he joins us, I'm going to see, I think that Cuomo and Sliwa got more votes than mom Donnie, but this crazy left wing, frankly anti American is going to be the mayor running the biggest city in America. Are you also afraid or do you have more optimism as we sit here six days out for what the results are going to be in? People are already voting in New York City.

[Buck Sexton]

I think mom diamond, mom Donnie is going to win no matter what. So I'm pretty, pretty sanguine.

[Clay Travis]

You've already accepted the outcome.

[Buck Sexton]

I think mom Donnie's winning the New York City mayors race. Yeah. From everything that I've seen so far, I would love it if sleep would win. But I think part of it also, I think Cuomo is horrible. I don't know why everyone thinks Cuomo is going to be so much better than Mamdani. I think Cuomo is horrible. So I'm a, I'm a little more in, in that and that I don't think there's some last minute way to make Cuomo the mayor by Sliwa dropping out and that that would be so much better for New York. So I'm kind of let the chips fall where they may at this point play. But we'll see.

[Clay Travis]

No doubt. All right. When we come back, we will talk with Curtis Lewa. Get your popcorn. He can tee off on me. I'll make it clear. I've said if Curtis Lewa wins, I do a entire week in the beret that I will open up a bar tab in a sports bar in New York City somewhere where they have sane owners of that sports bar and set up a celebration for everybody listening on wor. Curtis Lewa next making the case for why he's going to be the next mayor in New York City.

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