Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H1 - Democrats vs. Law Enforcement

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H1 – Democrats vs. Law Enforcement
Date: August 30, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode zeroes in on the intensifying debate between Democrats and Republicans over law enforcement, crime, and public safety policy, particularly in major urban centers. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton analyze the Democratic leadership’s approach to policing and crime—especially after recent media interviews with the Chicago mayor and Illinois governor—while contrasting them with Republican proposals, notably Donald Trump’s aggressive “war on crime.” The hosts also discuss the implications for upcoming elections, the political maneuvering among potential Democratic presidential hopefuls, and Trump’s public cabinet meetings. Listeners are taken through the political and practical stakes involved in America’s crime policy crossroads, all in the hosts' signature conversational style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Political Stage: 2026 Election Landscape

• Primary Preview: Texas Attorney General race (notably, Chip Roy will be a guest in hour two).
• Historical Wins/Losses: Hosts recall how Republicans have struggled in recent cycles, with the Virginia win and the House of Representatives regain as rare high points.
• Distractions in Texas: Clay reminds listeners that the state’s football obsession could drown out primary politics until right before voting (04:00).

2. The Trump Approach: Aggressive Public Engagement

• Trump’s seventh public cabinet meeting gets attention, contrasting with Biden’s lack of meetings.

• Hosts praise Trump’s media blitzes—hours-long, unscripted, and policy-focused—contrasting with what they characterize as the Biden team's evasiveness and media avoidance (05:52).

  “Hiding Biden was actually a pretty sound strategy.” – Buck Sexton (05:52)

3. Media Sparring: Scarborough vs. Chicago Mayor on Policing

• A centerpiece segment dissects Joe Scarborough’s MSNBC interview with Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson.

• Scarborough repeatedly asks if adding 5,000 police officers would help, but Johnson dodges with discussions about social programs and “violence interrupters.”

  • First Exchange:

    “Would 5,000 more police officers on the street in Chicago be helpful to go along with all of those social programs?” – Joe Scarborough (09:41)

    Johnson evades the yes/no, citing that crime existed even when Chicago had 3,000 more cops in the 1990s.

  • Follow-ups:
    Scarborough gets increasingly frustrated by the Mayor’s reluctance to answer clearly (cuts at 11:22 and 12:47).

  • Buck's Take:

    “He's like, hey, moron, I'll give you everything else you want... but can you just say more cops would help?” – Buck Sexton (13:41)

4. Democrats, Police, and Political Strategy

• Clay: “Trump is trying to lower violent crime... he is going to save more black lives by far than anyone who marched in BLM protests and argued for defunding the police ever did. In fact, that cost black lives.” (14:29)
• Analysis of Democrats’ hesitance to endorse more policing. The hosts argue that the base views police as the problem—a stance Trump exploits, turning the issue into both a political winner and social good (16:11).

5. Democratic Governors & Crime: National Ambitions over Local Solutions

• Chicago Context:

  • Clip of a Chicago resident pleading for the National Guard to halt the bloodshed.

    “Children are dying, okay?” – Chicago Resident (29:44)

  • Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker rebuffs Trump’s offer for federal help, framing it as political theater and unfit leadership (30:17).

    “Do not come to Chicago. You are neither wanted here nor needed here.” – Gov. J.B. Pritzker (30:17)

• Hosts’ Perspective:

  • Argue Democratic leaders prioritize presidential prospects over constituents’ safety.
  • Buck: “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. That's a defining characteristic of the Democrat Party. On crime specifically and more generally.” (31:22)

6. Statistical Reality: American Homicide in Perspective

• Comparisons drawn between Chicago’s murder numbers (629 in 2024) and the entire UK (535).
• Buck: “More murders in Chicago than in the United Kingdom, which has... 70 million people.” (36:25)
• Argues Democrats ignore hard data; the real enemy is the numbers.

7. Core Debate: Crime Reduction Means Law Enforcement

• Discuss failures and successes: NYPD’s historical drop in murders; DC and Chicago used as case studies.
• Clay: “Why are you worried about what happens to black and brown criminals more than... innocent people being victimized?” (34:05)
• Counterpunch to leftist criminal justice arguments: bodycam footage disproves anti-police narratives.

8. Trump’s ‘Builder’ Mentality & Political Courage

• The hosts credit Trump’s risk-taking and focus on results, contrasting him with what they see as risk-averse, legacy-minded politicians.

  “Trump is trying to change things. And that's very different.” – Clay Travis (36:34)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Messaging:

  “Trump has cut through the noise... Is it politically smart and does it actually make the country better? ...Here they do.” – Clay Travis (14:29)

• On Mayor Johnson:

  “It’s like talking to a robot. They've been programmed that cops are bad and law enforcement is bad. They've been programmed that law enforcement is inherently in this country racist.” – Buck Sexton (33:34)

• On Democrat Political Strategy:

  “They're doing things that are actually worse for the citizens they represent because they see it as beneficial for their presidential ambitions. And that's almost entirely what we're seeing take place right now.” – Clay Travis (31:02)

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Key Segment Timestamps

• Texas Attorney General Race/Election Landscape: 03:33–05:40
• Trump’s Cabinet Meetings vs. Biden’s Management: 05:40–06:28
• Scarborough vs. Chicago Mayor Johnson Exchange: 09:41–13:41
• Clay and Buck on Democratic Messaging/Trump’s Crime Policy: 14:29–16:11
• Chicago Resident & Gov. Pritzker on National Guard: 29:44–31:02
• Statistics: Chicago vs UK Murders: 36:25
• Discussion of Trump’s Leadership Style: 36:34
• Closing Thoughts/Listener Engagement Plug: 45:45–48:18

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Conclusion

This episode offers a spirited, sometimes biting look at the flashpoints dividing political leaders over urban crime and public safety, with Chicago as the battleground du jour. The hosts argue that Democrats' refusal to plainly advocate for more police is both a political gift to Trump and a substantive failure; they frame Trump as a bold problem-solver willing to ask, “Why do we accept this?” The episode is peppered with real-exchange audio, off-the-cuff analysis, and moments of humor—a strong snapshot of partisan talk radio wrestling with the politics and reality of public safety in America.

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[Buck Sexton]

Youngkin gave us, gave us some hope, some prayer for the future. And then the midterms, it was, it was Governor Ron in Florida, credit where it's due, massive win.

[Clay Travis]

We did win the House of Representatives back, but it was still a tough, there was a lot of tough situations. I feel like every day we wake up now, their celebratory spirit as there should be across the country for most of the decisions that are being made. But in the first several years that we were together, there were not a lot of victories to celebrate. So I do think as we get ready for the Virginia, New Jersey election, New York City mayor and then obviously as we move into next year, the Texas primary is going to be a major, major event In March of 2026, as I know many of you in Texas are aware of. But as the state of Texas is football mad, frankly almost unlike any other state in America with high school, college and pro that's going to be hard to cut through the noise in Texas in September, October, November, December, if the Cowboys actually win, sorry, Cowboy fans, even January 2nd, when the playoffs happen. And as a result, that primary, you're going to look up from the holidays and it's going to be right on top of you. So that is underway. We will talk With Chip Roy, who is running for Attorney General there. Uh, I would say it is a huge event. We will be covering quite a lot as we move closer to that. But President Trump, I believe, about to have his seventh public cabinet meeting. Remember, Joe Biden didn't have a Cabinet meeting and everybody just forgot and didn't pay very much attention to it for basically the final two years of his term in office. There were no meetings as they were hiding him. Trump had three different public events yesterday, Buck. He basically had rolling press conferences for hours. I bet he'll be talking for hours today.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm just going to try to give credit where it's due here, Clay, because we always like to call balls and strikes, as you know, hiding Biden was the right move. Yeah, this is. We can talk about how, like, depraved and craven and everything it is, but hiding Biden was actually a pretty sound strategy. And I'm. I'm going to go even further. I think hiding Kamala probably would have been a better move for them. I know that they had maybe got too loud for her to appear in public, but it's better to have MSNBC pretend that you know who these people are than to actually see what they say when they don't have a script or a teleprompter in front of them.

[Clay Travis]

Remember, they didn't actually do an interview with Kamala Harris for a month. And then when they finally did one, I think it was with Dana Bash, if I remember correctly, on cnn. And Tim Walls was there with her. Uh, so they waited until, I mean, late August, if I remember correctly, before they even let her talk to anybody, which raised expectations. Unfortunately, even with that going on, she couldn't meet them. But I do think there is a story that is becoming pretty intriguing, and it is Joe Scarborough, probably, and potentially still smarting from the public humiliation that he suffered because he said that Joe Biden 2024 was just as good of a Biden as he had ever seen. In fact, the best version of Biden. And after the June 27th debate, I think Joe Scarborough was embarrassed on a level that it's hard to be embarrassed in public prognostication. And I think he has decided a bit to go to war with the die hard NBC View MSNBC viewing audience. Remember, he and Mika initially were very favorable with Trump. Then that relationship turned negative. Then they went and kissed the ring after Trump won reelection, which led many of the people in the MSNBC audience to be furious. The MSNBC audience has not been galvanized this time. By the Trump administration. In fact, audience ratings have continued to be weak and to frankly collapse. And maybe that has emboldened Joe Scarborough to actually start being a journalist. Because, Buck, you shared this this morning. I went and watched, and I gotta give Joe Scarborough credit. Uh, he had on Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. And let's set the table here. I think brilliantly, in the summer months here, Trump has changed the agenda from, from basically tariffs and worrying about the economy because we're at record stock market highs. And he has said we're going to go to war with violent crime. And D.C. was the first place that he decided to bring out the National Guard. I believe we are now, and correct me if I'm wrong, team, I think we're at either day 12 or day 13 without a murder in D.C. overall, crime rates have fallen precipitously in. And now Trump is talking about bringing the National Guard to Chicago and Baltimore and other American cities that he believes have far too high of a crime rate. And Joe Scarborough asked Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson this morning on MSNBC a very simple question. Would having more police officers make the city of Chicago safer? And I want to play. I'm going to call for each of these in succession. I want to play you, the mayor of Chicago, refusing to answer if more police officers would make the city safer. Here is part one.

[Joe Scarborough]

Would you also like to get federal funding to help put 5,000 more cops on the street in Chicago? Would that help drive down crime?

[Buck Sexton]

Well, look, policing by itself is not the full strategy.

[Joe Scarborough]

I understand you've talked about the other things you want, and I said those are good and important programs. But I'm asking also, would 5,000 more police officers on the street in Chicago be helpful to go along with all of those social programs that a lot of cities are engaging in and having success with?

[Buck Sexton]

Look, here's the best way I can put it, Joe, is that in the.

[Clay Travis]

90S, when I was in high school, we had 3,000 more police officers and.

[Buck Sexton]

We had 900 people being murdered every single year in Chicago. It's just not policing alone.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, this continues. Can I just reel.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, because the way we set this up is, would more cops be helpful? Joe Scarborough is actually conceding as part of his questioning here, he says, if we give you all the money you want for your violence Interrupters, for your, your, you know, community organizers, for your, all these, by the way, things that do absolutely nothing, I know you'll find some radicals will say, oh, my gosh, the history of violence Interrupters, please give me a Break. Okay, social workers, he says, with all that, would you also want more cops? And now, Clay, you could continue to work through that. It's astonishing. This guy, the mayor of Chicago.

[Clay Travis]

Here is part two. Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson. He of the recent 6% approval rating. Asked again, yes or no, would 5,000 cops help MSNBC this morning? Of course we want more detectives.

[Joe Scarborough]

I know it's not policing alone. I know it's not policing alone. You've told me everything else you want to. I'm curious, and this does come down to an ideological difference between people. Do you believe that the streets of Chicago would be safer if there were more uniformed police officers on the streets of Chicago?

[Buck Sexton]

I believe the city of Chicago, in.

[Clay Travis]

Cities across America would be safer if we actually had affordable housing.

[Joe Scarborough]

Look, that's not the question I asked. My question is, and I just need a yes or a no. Do you believe the streets of Chicago would be safer if you got all of those other extraordinary programs put back into place, which do have a history of being successful? If that's, if that's complemented by having 5,000 more cops on the streets of Chicago?

[Buck Sexton]

I don't believe that we should narrow it down to just police officers. What I'm saying, that is an antiquated approach.

[Clay Travis]

Okay. It continues, Buck. And I just think I got to give Scotch Joe Scarborough credit. He sounds a bit like me back in the day with Mike Pence, when you just can't get an answer from a question that you think is actually an important one. Here is more. Brandon Johnson, mayor of Chicago, having his feet held to the fire on a simple question. Hey, would more cops help? Cut three.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm saying we've invested in detention.

[Joe Scarborough]

Are you hearing what I'm saying? I'm agreeing with you that all of these other social programs are extraordinarily important. I just need a yes or a no. And then be the last time I ask if you get all of those other social programs that, that, that 800 million that, that new York City does, Los Angeles, other people do with great success. Would an additional 5,000 cops on the streets in Chicago help complement those programs to make Chicago safer?

[Buck Sexton]

Look, we are working hard to make sure that our police department is fully supported.

[Joe Scarborough]

I don't believe that just simply putting.

[Buck Sexton]

Out an arbitrary number around police officers is the answer.

[Clay Travis]

What I'm saying is policing and affordable housing is policing.

[Buck Sexton]

And mental and behavioral health care services.

[Clay Travis]

Is policing and youth employment.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay?

[Clay Travis]

This is important.

[Buck Sexton]

I think Joe Scarborough is basically begging this guy. Yes, begging. He's like, hey, Moron, I'll give you everything else you want. We'll pretend. All these programs that don't do a darn thing in any of these places that anyone can measure will also be in place here. But can you just say more cops would help with the crime problem? Could you please just say it? He won't say it. The mayor of Chicago. And it's because the mayor of Chicago is anti cop. He's anti law enforcement. He thinks cops are the problem. He thinks that crime in the south and west sides of Chicago, where there are a lot of homicides even for an American city, a lot of homicides going on. He thinks that the issue is mass incarceration and over policing, Clay. That's the bottom line and he won't change his mind.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, and I think this is brilliant of Trump. I just think it is absolutely brilliant. And I am staggered at the stupidity of Democrats responding to this. Trump is trying to lower violent crime. In so doing, he is going to save more black lives by far than anyone who marched in BLM protests and argued for defunding the police ever did. In fact, that cost black lives. And most of you out there, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight, male, female, all of you say, yeah, more cops would help. Why can Democrats not say it? Because the base of the Democrat party still believes that police are the problem. They believe a lie. And I think this is why Trump has cut through the noise and the results here. You know, we sometimes talk buck and I think it's important that there are two tracks on everything. Is it politically smart and does it actually make the country better? Sometimes those don't overlap. Here they do. It's both politically smart and the country is better if we lower the overall rate of violent crime. And Trump has cut through the noise. And right now the debate we're having in the summer of his first term is should we have more police? And is Trump trying to lower violent crime too aggressively? It's brilliant. I just, I gotta give him credit for it. It is absolutely brilliant.

[Buck Sexton]

And we're going to have more for you, by the way, because right now, just a couple minutes ago, Trump started a cabinet meeting and you know what that means. It's a Trumpathon, everybody. He's got stuff on the economy, on crime, on Ukraine, on everything. We cuz we have the best team in the radio business, are monitoring in real time as we talk to you, bringing you all of the highlights of this. We might even join it live if he gets onto a particular topic that we think is necessary to get into every detail about But Clay the trump a thon begins once again.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got President Trump in a cabinet meeting right now. He is talking about the economy, about tariffs, jobs, energy prices. He said 100,000 additional tons of American made steel is hitting the market because of his policies. Let's, let's join the President right now inside that cabinet meeting.

[Joe Scarborough]

Don't Forget we lost 55% of our auto production over the last 35 years. 55%. We were the auto capital of the world like there was nobody even think about challenging us. We lost 55% of it to Mexico, Canada, China, a lot to China and other countries. And it's all coming back. We will be bigger a couple of years we'll be bigger than we ever were. We'll be more dominant, we'll be bigger. We make great product too. We're starting to make really great product. We're going to be bigger than we ever were. We're going to be at the level that it was when we were the only one that really we sold to the world. And we're going to be back selling to ourselves and other parts of the world. It's not going to be the same but it's going to be equally as important as it was in the heyday 30 years ago. But we lost more than 50% of the automaking capacity. In fact, the unions, the auto unions, as you know, the top guy didn't know me, didn't like me, and now he likes me. Just, man, I can't believe what Trump has done. But the auto workers voted for me. They understood better than anybody else. The auto workers, the Teamsters voted for me. Teamsters are great. They all voted for me. They would. Nobody, no Republican, has ever gotten the support of the Teamsters and the auto workers. And now the head of the auto workers. I mean, it's so amazing. I watch them on television there. They can't even believe what happened. And I told them all what was going to happen.

[Buck Sexton]

We'll come back into this year in a moment and talk about some of what Trump is laying out there. But he is very proud of the economic record so far. It's only what, seven, eight months into the administration and there's a lot more to come, no doubt.

[Clay Travis]

And again, I just think the public availability of Trump. Remember, maybe the most ridiculous of all the Trump charges were that the 25th Amendment should be brought to bear in his first term. No one can say it now after all the Joe Biden revelations, but just think about how wild that accusation was. And there's a clip out there. Maybe we can play it for you. Because of Trump being aggressively questioned about his health in the first term compared to the COVID up of Biden.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Buck welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Okay. I've got a theory for you here, Buck. And sometimes my theories you sign onto and you think, hey, you know what, this actually makes complete sense and other times you think this is crazy. So let me give you first props on one of your theories. We start off the show with Joe Scarborough and you said, I think Joe Scarborough is setting the table to run for president last week or the week before. And when I see these clips, I can't help but think Joe Scarborough is trying right now to carve himself a lane in as a Bill Clinton like Democrat candidate. And there is going to be, I think a massive battle on the left to see who can be the wokest. Like we saw in the 2020 primary. Remember when everybody raised their hands basically to say who supports abortions for trans, like all this crazy, remember that question.

[Buck Sexton]

Trans, trans illegal aliens. We need to be paying for the abortions of trans illegal aliens. Yes.

[Clay Travis]

Where you're, you're sitting there and you're trying to figure out, I feel like Allen in The Hangover Part 1, where you could see him trying to do the math in his head to figure out what exactly is going on there. And so there's going to be this huge race to that side. But Joe Biden actually ended up the nominee by being somewhat moderate, as we point out, and you point out on the show regularly. He never supported defund the police. Joe Biden was never dumb enough even with his clear cognitive issues to go full left wing. Now he governed full left wing, but he didn't run full left wing. With that in mind, there's going to be a lane for someone. It might be Rahm Emanuel, it might be Gavin Newsom who's trying to kind of get into that lane. It might be somebody like Joe Scarborough, might be Dwayne the Rock Johnson. People are now talking about the Rock running as a Democrat. It wouldn't shock me if there is somebody who runs as a sane capitalist alternative to socialists like Mamdani. Ok, with that is the prelim. I think what you're seeing right now is people in positions of power in blue states are making awful decisions for their constituents now that are entirely predicated on trying to get a larger constituency and run for president of the United States. For instance, JB Pritzker. I believe we have audio from JB Pritzker. There's no way if he Has a functional brain. And I don't believe he's a complete and total moron that he doesn't believe that. Having more police, same thing with Brandon Johnson. But he's not going to be a national candidate. I want to just play these contrasts for you. Here is a black Chicago resident saying, we would love to have more National Guard troops in the city of Chicago because way too many people are dying, kids in particular. Listen to this resident, cut five.

[Buck Sexton]

I want them both to stop the political theater. And if that means bring our National Guard head for presents, then so be it, because we gotta do something. Children are dying, okay?

[Clay Travis]

Children are dying. This is a common sense Chicago residents saying, hey, we would support this. Listen to J.B. pritzker, who has to recognize that this would likely be helpful but needs to fight Trump because he sees it as better for his political ambitions. Listen to him this morning. This is cut six.

[Buck Sexton]

Earlier today in the Oval Office, Donald Trump looked at the assembled cameras and asked for me personally to say, Mr. President, you do us the honor of protecting our city. Instead, I say, Mr. President, do not come to Chicago. You are neither wanted here nor needed here. Your remarks about this effort over the last several weeks have betrayed a continuing slip in your mental faculties and are not fit for the auspicious office that you occupy. Most alarming, you seem to lack any appropriate concern as our commander in chief for the members of the military that you would so callously deploy as pawns in your ever more alarming grabs for power.

[Clay Travis]

He can't believe this, Buck. This is entirely an early audition for the Democrat primary. From Newsom, from Pritzker. They're doing things that are actually worse for the citizens they represent because they see it as beneficial for their presidential ambitions. And that's almost entirely what we're seeing take place right now.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, we all know that phrase, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. That's a defining characteristic of the Democrat Party. On crime specifically and more generally. I think on. On really everything. Real communism, real Democrat stuff has never been tried on this issue. What exactly does. Does Pritzker think it's okay that there were. I don't know what the number. I think it was like almost 600 last year and almost 700 the year before. Something like that. Murders in Chicago. Murders. More murders in Chicago than I think there are in the entire United Kingdom. I'm pulling that out of thin air, but I think it's probably true. It's crazy. Or certainly than there are in London. It's crazy. And you look at this and you say to yourself, why do we have to accept this as the status quo if it doesn't have to be? Here's the real question for Democrats. Do we have to accept that 500 people are gonna get killed in Chicago every year? Murdered? That's more than one a day. Yes, we have to. Murders every day in Chicago. I mean, what. You know, why is that something we have to accept as a society? Why is that a price that we have to pay? And, you know, I tweeted about this, Clay. It is amazing. You know, I'll get into some of the Abrego Garcia stuff coming up here in the second hour. But the. The emotion with which these libs approach an alleged MS.13 gang member slash human trafficker who is not an American, no one disputes this guy is an illegal. This guy is not American. He is not supposed to be here. He is. And they're so upset about him being sent to some other country, but they're not upset about the fact that more than a person a day gets killed every day in Chicago. Almost a person a day gets killed every day. In D.C. it's probably every other day. No emotion about that at all. No. No candlelight vigils, no hymns in the streets, no songs or whatever. Abrego Garcia. We need to protest the violence that's going on in American cities. By the way, Clay, we know it doesn't have to happen everywhere because it doesn't happen in San Francisco. It doesn't happen the same degree it happens in Chicago and Boston. So it can be better. So why not try to make it better? I mean, this is. And you see, with someone like Brandon Johnson, I don't think we need more cops.

[Clay Travis]

Why?

[Buck Sexton]

We need more Violence Interrupters. Why? I don't think we need more cops. Why? I mean, it's like talking to a robot. They've been programmed that cops are bad and law enforcement is bad. They've been programmed that law enforcement is inherently in this country racist. That is what the Democrat Party believes, that if you enforce the law more. The mayor of LA said this, Clay said this. This results. And going after young black and brown men more, therefore, we should not do this. That is her actual stated feeling.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And this is where the counterpunch is devastating. It's just absolutely devastating. We delivered it. I haven't heard anybody in the political universe deliver it. And the counterpunch. I boxed this morning. I boxed three days a week. I think that most people are pretty decent at throwing punches. They have no Idea to watch for a counterpunch. Counterpunch is what gets you knocked out, usually because you leave yourself wide open for it. When Karen Bass, the mayor of Los Angeles, says, if we have too many police, they're going to arrest black and brown people too much, the immediate devastating counterpunch is, why are you worried about what happens to black and brown criminals more than you're worried about the innocent people being victimized by black and brown criminals? They happen to be black and brown too. It's an easy response that I think is devastating on.

[Buck Sexton]

One of the ways the Democrats do this, I might add, is is they. They propagate and this is at the heart of the BLM protests and everything else. They propagate lies, which body cameras have done more than anything else to disabuse the public of for people who are paying attention. They propagate the lie that cops day in and day out in this country. I mean, Clay, I live in Miami. I think 70 or 80% of the cops here are Latino, right?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, so.

[Buck Sexton]

And so is the population. So are those cops all racist? Like you start to look in the NYPD, I think it's 40, 40 plus percent minority. Are they all racist too? Oh, well, by the way, the anti cop left will say yes. The anti cop left will tell you that even black police officers in American cities are inherently part of a system that is racist. Therefore they are engaged in racism, even if it is subconscious. You know, this is the, the circular logic and the nonsense. This is the Ismaam Daniism and Ibram x Kendi and you know, this is what they believe. By the way, I pulled that number off the top of my head and I was like, that sounds right. It is right.629 murders in Chicago last year, Clay, in the entire United kingdom, there were 535 murders. There are more murders in Chicago than in the United Kingdom, which has another stat I'm pulling off top of my head. 40 million people. Ish. You know, something like that.

[Clay Travis]

It is again, one of the geniuses of Trump.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm sorry, 70 million. I was way off. Whoa, Samsonite. I was way off. 70 million people.

[Clay Travis]

What is one of the geniuses is Trump of Trump is. He looks at things and says, why do we accept this? Lots of politicians just want to work on the edges. They want to work on the margins. They don't want to actually take any risks. They don't want to believe in big things, because believing in big things and taking risks can get you kicked out of office. One of the Things that unfortunately has disappointed me in the era that we've been doing this show is lots of politicians are cowards. They want to stay far behind leaders and just kind of drift in their wake so they don't really get noticed. They're not actually trying to change anything. They're just trying to keep their jobs. And Trump is trying to change things. And that's very different.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm, you know, as we're doing this, I have on, on mute on one of the monitors in, in the studio here. I have. There's a reporter who is attacked in D.C. violent, you know, victim of a violent crime, who's having an exchange right now with President Trump. So I can only see the text below. We will pull this, though, because I'm sure this is. And Clay, you've seen this again and again. Every time some, you know, low Testosterone, soy drinking, MSNBC, watching journo. Maybe they live in the general D.C. vicinity, but they don't live in D.C. you know, every time they're like, D.C. is not that dangerous. You'll see a comment right below, including from Democrats who are like, actually it is. I got attacked. You know, my car got stolen six months ago. I mean, everybody knows that this is the truth. Democrats have just been lying about it totally.

[Clay Travis]

And Trump has seen this. And the genius of Trump is, and I think this comes back to what he does for a living. He is, in fact, a builder. And builders are typically trying to fix problems. They're trying to create things that are better than what preexisted. And he's looking at this and he's saying, why are we accepting 20 some odd thousand murders a year? Why don't we actually drive down the rate of crime? And I do think the graphic that really got to Trump and many of his people was looking at the rates of murder in Washington, D.C. compared to all the other world capitals.

[Buck Sexton]

Absolutely, Clay. And because that's, that's a national. It's our capital. If you live in Montana or you live In Northern Virginia, D.C. is our capital. OK? You know, we should be proud of our national capital. And we should. I know a lot of you are like, fuck, it's all Democrat hellhole. Yeah, exactly. It shouldn't be that way. It shouldn't be the situation that has unfolded there as long as it has. And Clay, again, I grew up in New York City, where we had 2200 murders when I was in junior high, 2200 murders in New York City. And by the time I was finishing high school, it was like 500 and it got down to about 290, I think in the absolute drop in the after the Bloomberg administration and finished cleaning things up. So my point here is, you know, the biggest enemy the Democrats have on the crime issue is numbers. The biggest problem they have is numbers or statistics. When you look at what's actually going on and what should be possible and where this could go, how much better things could be, there's no doubt.

[Clay Travis]

Uh, we'll talk about this. We'll take some of your talkbacks. We'll continue to react. Trump, as we said in the midst of a cabinet meeting right now and obviously talking about a huge variety of different topics, we'll be pulling cuts and discussing what he is discussing with all of you. College football's back, baby. I love it. I cannot wait to watch so many of the games. I'm taking my 14 year old. We're going to go to the Alabama, Florida State game. Never been to Tallahassee. Looking forward to being there to watch that game. Can't wait to watch Ohio State on the road against Texas. Cannot wait to see how the LSU Clemson game goes. There are so many awesome, huge games going on in week one. You know how to make things a little bit more fun. Prize picks. You can play in Texas, you can play in Georgia. Big game there between Syracuse and my Tennessee Volunteers. You can play in Florida where Buck is and where I will be over Labor Day weekend going to a game you can play all over the country. California if you've been filling left out 40 plus states. All you have to do right now pick more or less on a variety of players and you are well on your way to having a lot of fun. I'm going to give you a pick on Friday headed into the weekend for college football. You can go ahead and get signed up though. Prizepix.com when you play $5, you get $50 deposited automatically in your account. You're going to love this. It makes it a lot of fun. If you love football like I do, play along with us. Buck is going to play along too. Tennessee can play. Florida can play. Georgia can play. California can play. 40 plus states. Prizepix.com Code Clay picks coming Friday, but go ahead and get signed up. That's prizepix.com code Clay Patriots radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts this Labor Day.

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[Clay Travis]

All right, welcome back.

[Buck Sexton]

In here to Clay and Buck. We got some very interesting exchanges between President Trump and the press. Pretty much always happens when Trump is having a press conference. In this case he had a cabinet meeting taking questions from the press assembled there. We will get into it. Also want to remind you, send us your talk backs. Go to the iHeartRadio app, which is fantastic. And you could press the microphone when you go to the Clay and Buck page. Make sure you subscribe. Our podcast network is fabulous by the way, there's that word, fabulous podcast network because we've got a whole bunch of great hosts on there like Carol Markowitz and Tudor Dixon and David Rutherford and others who are doing shows totally separate from this show. And you can listen to the show on demand there anytime. So please go check that out. And to get you as a little enticement to get you to subscribe to our YouTube channel, we told you there'd be special content only on the YouTube. Well, you can see our good buddy Clay trying to do the Secretary Hegseth physical challenge the full video. I will let Clay tell us the details. All I remember about this is that it is 100 push ups, 40 pull ups in five minutes. Is that right?

[Clay Travis]

A hundred. 100 push ups, 50 pull ups, 50 pull ups. Okay. And they tried to do it in under 10. Like some senator Mark Wayne Mullen out there from Oklahoma did it in three and a half. It crushed me. I tried it last night. My 14 year old recorded it. Push ups. I could do hundreds of push ups. I mean not all at once but if you told me in 10 minutes how many push ups could you do? I think I could do 300 push ups in 10 minutes. The pull ups killed me. If anybody wants to do this challenge, it's basically just a pull up challenge. 50 pull ups is a lot buck. I tried to do one at a time because I knew I was going to be bad at them. And by the end I could barely. I had to take substantial breaks. I did it in 1124. By the end I could barely get myself up to the pull up bar. Even with taking time.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm just if you want to see Clay either meeting the meeting his challenge here or struggling mightily depends on your perspective. Because we're two middle aged guys you got to subscribe to the Clay and Buck on YouTube. Go to Lay and Buck, go to the YouTube channel. Our team will have it up there for you. You can watch Clay, you can write in the comments how you are cheering him on in this in this endeavor. And and yeah, which reminds me, I'm gonna have to video some serves soon. Put those up on the YouTube. But go subscribe to YouTube.

[Clay Travis]

No doubt it was. It was tough. Good to challenge yourself though.

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