Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H1 - The Neverending Untold Story

Summary

Podcast Title: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H1 - The Neverending Untold Story
Release Date: May 10, 2025
Host/Authors: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Description: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics, and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.

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Main Topic: Biden's Cognitive Struggles and White House Cover-Up

[01:04] Colby Ekowitz introduces a significant and controversial topic: President Joe Biden’s ongoing mental and physical struggles while in office. This discussion is based on an upcoming book titled "How Trump Retook the White House and Democrats Lost America", which delves into internal White House debates regarding Biden’s cognitive health.

[02:04] Clay Travis elaborates on the book's revelations, stating:

"In February of that year, they came out with a report which described the president as a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. At that point in time, the story was becoming such an issue that they thought about having Biden take a cognition test but they were afraid that he would not be able to pass."
— Clay Travis [02:04]

Clay argues that this situation represents a potential cover-up, suggesting that if true, it would be criminal for the White House to publicly advocate for Biden’s sharpness while privately fearing his inability to pass basic cognitive tests. He emphasizes the gravity of the alleged deception:

"If you have a president of the United States and his staff publicly proclaiming that he's sharp as a tack while privately they're afraid he wouldn't pass a cognitive test, that's a cover-up."
— Clay Travis [05:00]

[06:47] Clay Travis continues by asserting that the entire Democratic apparatus was complicit in this deception, undermining the credibility of traditional media outlets. He criticizes sources like The New York Times and The Washington Post for their perceived left-wing bias, stating:

"If you believe the New York Times isn't pushing a left-wing agenda, you're just not very smart."
— Clay Travis [07:30]

Media Bias and Democratic Rot

Clay and Buck discuss the deep-seated rot within the Democratic Party and its alignment with mainstream media. They argue that even long-respected publications have lost their objectivity:

"If you believe that the Washington Post is objective journalism... Jeff Bezos doesn't think it's objective journalism."
— Clay Travis [07:45]

Buck adds that the media's failure to report critical issues like Biden’s cognitive struggles has significant implications for public trust and democracy.

Sports Anecdote: Knicks' Victory

To lighten the mood, Clay shares a personal anecdote about watching the New York Knicks win against the Boston Celtics. He uses this story to draw a parallel to the current political climate:

"Imagine if it came out that one of those teams had tried to rig the game by paying off the refs. You're not a hero for telling us that after the game is over and you've lost."
— Clay Travis [08:52]

Caller Interaction: Demanding Accountability

At [27:46], a caller challenges Clay and Buck’s stance on accountability, advocating for more aggressive actions against officials like Dr. Fauci. The caller emphasizes the need for subpoenas and legal consequences:

"Subpoena him. Subpoena him. Bring him in. He cannot plead the Fifth because of the pardon."
— Caller [31:36]

Clay engages with the caller, debating the efficacy and implications of such measures, while Buck defends Senator Rand Paul’s efforts and integrity.

Upcoming Guest: Senator Rand Paul

[22:17] Clay Travis announces that Senator Rand Paul will join the show in the third hour to discuss a range of topics, including:

• Executive Order on Ending Gain-of-Function Research: Signed recently, this order aims to halt certain biological research that could enhance pathogens' transmissibility or virulence.

• Ukraine Mineral Deal and Tariff Talks: Discussions around international trade agreements and their impact on the U.S. economy.

• Student Loans: Potential reforms and policies to alleviate student debt burdens.

Clay highlights the importance of Sen. Paul’s insights, describing him as a "principled member of the United States Senate" with significant contributions to holding the administration accountable.

Broader Political Discussions

Throughout the episode, Clay and Buck touch upon various political issues, including:

• Trump’s Executive Actions: They discuss President Trump's recent moves, such as the executive order to end gain-of-function research and its implications on global health and biosecurity.

• BRICS Nations and the Rio Reset: An analysis of the BRICS bloc's efforts to displace the U.S. dollar as the global currency, potentially impacting the value of American savings and the economy. Clay mentions:

  "The Rio Reset marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move from being theoretical toward being inevitable."
  — Clay Travis [25:30]

Analysis of Republican Strategy and Midterms Impact

Clay and Buck examine the Republican strategy leading up to the midterms, debating whether the focus should be on holding the current administration accountable or prioritizing policy achievements. They acknowledge a tension within the party between seeking retribution for past actions and looking forward to future objectives.

Buck supports the idea that Senator Rand Paul and others are actively working to ensure accountability, while Clay recognizes the caller's frustration and the broader push within the GOP to address perceived injustices from the Biden administration.

Closing Remarks and Teasers

In the final segments, Clay previews the content of upcoming discussions and interviews, emphasizing the continuous focus on key political issues and providing a platform for diverse viewpoints within the conservative spectrum.

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Notable Quotes

• Clay Travis [02:04]:
  "If you have a president of the United States and his staff publicly proclaiming that he's sharp as a tack while privately they're afraid he wouldn't pass a cognitive test, that's a cover-up."

• Clay Travis [07:30]:
  "If you believe the New York Times isn't pushing a left-wing agenda, you're just not very smart."

• Caller [31:36]:
  "Subpoena him. Subpoena him. Bring him in. He cannot plead the Fifth because of the pardon."

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts delve into the contentious and potentially explosive topic of President Biden’s cognitive health and the alleged cover-up within the White House. They explore the implications of such a cover-up on public trust and the media's role in perpetuating political narratives. Through engaging discussions, caller interactions, and upcoming interviews with influential figures like Senator Rand Paul, the show provides a comprehensive analysis of the current political landscape, emphasizing accountability and transparency within the highest levels of government.

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Note: This summary excludes advertisements, promotional segments, and non-content sections to focus solely on the substantive discussions and insights provided by Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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[Clay Travis]

Well, that's because everybody knew that this guy had dementia. But the entire system, the entire apparatus was completely enmeshed in the lie. And they knew. Right. What's going to be interesting here is how do they get past this? And some of you, I will say, have, have been pointing out, look, we're going to talk about the tariffs and the latest, you know, the latest is that Trump knows what he's doing and it's all fine. So everyone needs to calm down a bit. But we'll talk about the news of the day, of course, with respect to that. But why does this story still matter so much? It matters because it shows everybody just how deep the rot was between the Democrat Party and the corporate Democrat media, the old media institutions that still, even until this last election, I think Clay had more of a, more of a claim to, oh, we're, we're trustworthy and neutral than they should have. People had wised up a lot. But now, if you believe the New York Times isn't pushing a left wing agenda, you're just not very smart. Right. If, if you believe that the Washington Post is objective journalism. Even Jeff Bezos doesn't believe the Washington Post. He owns it and he doesn't think it's objective journalism. Based on what we've seen in the last election cycle alone. He's figured this out. Right. So I think Clay, what's interesting is, you know, there's this reporting about the COVID up and it comes out now. And this is going to be one thing, this will be contentious, especially for anybody who's trying to say, well, look at all the good journalism we're doing now about this. All of this was known and knowable before the election. Real journalism would have been telling us about this before the American people were voting. Right. Because it doesn't just go to Joe Biden. It goes to the credibility of the pro Kamala media and all of the stories around her and all the things that were going on at that time. So, you know, you can't try to rig the game. I watched my beloved New York Knicks last night get a huge win, Clay, huge win over the Boston Celtics.

[Colby Ekowitz]

They came back from 20 points down. When's the last time you watched it full? Did you watch the whole game or just the end of it?

[Clay Travis]

No, my brothers texted me and said, stop being a communist. They're about to win. There's five minutes left or something. And I said, okay, brothers. My brothers are the normal ones in the family. They were watching. So I turned it on. But you know, imagine if it came out that, that one of those teams had tried to rig the game by paying off the refs. You're not a hero for telling us that after the game is over and you've lost a year later than a year and a year later. That's not heroic. Ok? That's cleaning up after the parade of elephants and horses, so to speak, has already gone by. And that's what's going on here. It is cleanup on aisle journalism. And we're going to have this out, I think in time with anybody who sees it otherwise. Oh, by the way, just one more thing, Clay. If they could have gotten a doctor to lie, they absolutely would have gone forward with it because all these people have their jobs riding on whether Biden can pass this cognitive test.

[Colby Ekowitz]

The doctor, that's what I wanted to reference. This is according to the New York Times, this was reporting on this book that's going to come out. Mr. Biden's longtime doctor, Kevin O' Connor told aides he would not take the 81 year old president's political standing into consideration when treating him. Good for him, basically. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

That guy is, that guy is actually a hero in this story. When it mattered, he had integrity.

[Colby Ekowitz]

The Bidens have declined to comment on this story that is coming out in the, in this book.

[Clay Travis]

Can I just throw something out there too? Sorry. You've got me fired up about this story. Clay sent me this story. Now I'm fired up about this story. Clay, you know who one of the chief, you know who maybe the chief villain in this whole narrative is going to be? Jill Biden.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Well, I've been arguing that for a while.

[Clay Travis]

You have because she book. It's going to, it's going to completely align with your Jill Biden is a chief villain take, but I think we're going to get some of those details now. Can you imagine hiding your husband's dementia from the country in a reelection camp? We're not even talking about. Can he just get to the end? Right. That would be bad enough. Okay, just six more months, Joe. Just six more months. Clay, they were telling us he should be president for four more years.

[Colby Ekowitz]

There are two other things in this story that are in the book that I think is. Mike Donilon, a senior adviser to Biden, had worked for him since the 80s, told the Harvard Political Review in March, even when they were worried about this cognitive test. Every day I keep seeing him doing the job, I still think he's the best person to be president today. Uh, David Axelrod, top adviser to President Obama, called into question in July 2022 whether Biden would be able to serve another four years. He said, the stark reality is the president's gonna be closer to the 90 than 80 at the end of the second term. It would be a major issue. That comment, according to the book, prompted an angry call to Axelrod from ron Klain, then Mr. Biden's chief of staff. He said, there's no Obama out there. Ax who's going to do it if he doesn't do it. That is why they covered. It's not only buck that they were aware and they wanted to maintain power and everything else, it's that I think they realized there was no one else who could do better against Trump than Biden. So they were willing to Weekend at Bernie's, too. Joe Biden, as long as they could keep this lie going. And that's because there wasn't somebody in the wings that they thought was better. And they ended up being correct because Kamala couldn't do it either.

[Clay Travis]

I'll also point this out, Clay. I know you're. I know you're with me on this, but I just think we have to keep on reminding everybody, because remember, the people that went along with this lie, they also run the Democrat Party. They're all still calling the shots at most of, you know, the non Fox networks. Although I actually, you know, congrats to Newsmax and News Nation for all the gains there. You know, they're making a lot of gains, and it's. And they've earned it because they've built their brands at a time when these other brands are just going into the side of the mountain at high speed. But, Clay, if they could have held off on the debate until the election, yeah, they would.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Have even still the story. That's still the story. I want to know more about why did they decide to do it?

[Clay Travis]

And I think it was the biggest blunder in, in political history. Clay. They should. They would have gotten away with this in my mind now I don't know if they would. He would have beaten Trump. That's a different question. I don't think so. Look at, look at the results in the election. But they would have dragged him to election day. All they had to do was say Joe refuses to platform an election denier. You have to say it like that because you have to have no testosterone when you say it. Joe refuses to platform an election denier. The American people will decide at the ballot box. Clay. They could have kept Biden in the seat. And I'll say this. It would have if they had done that. Forget about the debate. It would have been a better showing for them than it did than it was with Kamala. I think no question in my mind.

[Colby Ekowitz]

I think that's still the great untold story. Why did they insist? Remember it was their call. Why did they insist on the early debate? Because they're lying about his mental and physical cognition already. He'd already locked up the overall nomination. There was nothing they could have done to him. If they had just waited to do a debate until September, October, it would have destroyed his chances, I think of reelection because everybody would have seen it and it would have been impossible to replace him at that point in time. But why not? Or we said it for a while. We thought that Biden might say I'm not even going to platform Trump because his ideas are too, too crazy. People have seen us debate already. They know what he thinks. They know what I think. I believe that that might have been the better play because then they could have kept the lie going.

[Clay Travis]

I think if you and I were running the Biden 2024 campaign, talk about a thought experiment. And we had. And we had sold our souls. And the whole point was anything because if we believe, let's say that Trump was the end of the republic, which isn't that just even more insane now we look around, we're like, you mean the country is healing and things are going great? Yeah, that's the end of the republic. We could have gotten Biden to election day. Look at all this stuff they were able to suppress. They could that I agree with you who pushed forward the early debate because the only. There are only two options. The biggest own goal, self inflicted wound in modern American politics. Or maybe somebody was like, I just can't be a part of this anymore. I think that's less likely. I do, but it's not impossible.

[Colby Ekowitz]

That would have been the House of Cards part. You know, if this the the television show that Netflix did back in the day, the House of Cards version would be we're gonna trot him out there and we're gonna let him go up in flames. But it is crazy to me that they let this guy debate in June of 2027. I just think it's crazy. We'll talk about this. We'll take some of your calls. AI everywhere. If your business isn't using it, you're losing money, productivity and a competitive edge. NetSuite helps you control costs and increase efficiency like our federal government's trying to do. NetSuite number one Cloud business management system out there, harnessing the power of AI to give you that competitive edge. Even the best run businesses could use a little optimizing, maybe even streamlining. With netsuite, you'll gain clarity on what actions to take. With technology moving so fast, you're probably wondering where to even begin. NetSuite brings accounting, financial management, inventory, HR into one efficient suite. Instead of paying for multiple systems, begin by going to netsuite.com Clay Netsuite is spelled N E T S U I t e netsuite.com Clay brings you to a website where you can Download the free CFOs guide to AI and machine learning. It's fast, it's easy. It's what next. It's what's next. Lead your company into the Future. Get the AI Edge with NetSuite by Oracle. That's netsuite.com/clay saving America One Thought at a time. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Clay Travis]

All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got a great interview for you in the third hour. Just want to give you a heads up so you can make sure you tune in with Senator Rand Paul. We're going to talk about a whole range of things with him. Always, always like having Senator Rand Paul on. We're going to talk to him about the executive order on the ending of gain of function research, Clay which was signed yesterday, plus the Ukraine mineral deal, tariff talks, student loans. I mean we, we never can get through all the things we want to talk to Senator Paul about. But we'll try to get through as much of the critical news of the day with him as we can. But yeah, Trump signing an executive order to end gain of a gain of function research. It's still mind blowing to me in so many ways that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is the site of a global pandemic outbreak and we have a funding cutout that goes through some, you know, sort of intermediary from US Government funds to that Wuhan Institute of Virology. And everyone just went along with this. It's a, the globe, the world is.

[Colby Ekowitz]

A big place, right?

[Clay Travis]

Yes. Like Earth. Earth has a lot of places and for a, a virus that is being studied to pop up right near a place where, I'm sorry, rather for a virus to come out right near a place where it is being studied. What are the odds of that just happen now that we can really think with clarity about this clay? I mean, this would be like being hit by a satellite that fell from the sky and landed on you while you were sunbathing in your yard. Like it could happen, but it's one in a billion.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Yeah. I mean, it's like claiming that, that you happen to run into Mickey Mouse when you're at Disney World. You'd be like, well, that's kind of where I would expect Mickey Mouse to be. Right. Like, oh, can you believe it? Like Mickey Mouse just happened. This has always been my argument and this is where I just sit back and use basic logic and we'll talk with Rand Paul about this. But it's why I think Fauci should be facing criminal charges. Because all of this was directly covered up by him. Because I think he recognized early on, oh, American tax dollars were used to help create Covid, which he didn't want to take responsibility for. So he put in place this crazy natural evolution theory. And many people just went along with it because they trusted him. And they took advantage of a lot of reporters who frankly probably weren't very good at science or math or any high level biology courses. Right. I mean, that I don't begrudge that. I wouldn't be great at analyzing the DNA of viral sequences either. And so they trusted Foushee to tell the truth and he lied. And I think he should face criminal charges for it because I think it's the most consequential lie of most of our lives.

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[Colby Ekowitz]

Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show Trump with the newly elected Prime Minister of Canada in the Oval Office right now and there are a wide variety of newsmaking comments that are coming out. We are adding all of those clips in for you right now. I'll read this quote. Trump says quote, he has a very, very big announcement to make before he departs for the Middle East. It'll be one of the most important announcements that has been made in many years about a certain subject. Now that is a, that is an all time tease. I guess it could be related to the Middle east and Israel. One of my first thoughts, but I would think he would wait until he gets there is that Saudi Arabia is going to sign on to the Abraham Accords which would be hugely important in terms of long range stability in the Middle east if Saudi Arabia were willing or able to do it. I would also think it could have something to do with Iran and what sort of negotiations or agreements could be coming there. That's kind of what comes top of my mind. Buck, anything that you think of, Obviously a lot of people also wondering if it could have to do with trade but it seems based on follow up questions that it doesn't have anything to do with trade. So that's why my thought is that maybe it would have something to do with the Middle east since that's where he's going. But that would be my, my best guess.

[Clay Travis]

I, I mean it's Trump, man. It's, it could be, could be any number. I think your guesses are, are, are X, are, you know, excellent in terms of probability. But with, with the Trumpster, you just don't know. It's, it could be, it could be anything. It could be huge. It could be a little less than huge.

[Colby Ekowitz]

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[Clay Travis]

Clay and Buck, you are totally missing the point on this Biden dementia story. This is not about the press and their deceit. This is about the deceit of who was running the country while he was in this mental state. This has nothing to do with the press. It has everything to do with the deep state that took over while he.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Was in this situation. Well, I think it's a smart point. I do think the press's job, ostensibly, is to speak truth to power and hold those in power accountable. So the fact that the president had dementia and that they are supposed to be the spokespeople in some ways for what's going on in the White House matters. But we have talked a ton about who was actually making decisions in the White House for years.

[Clay Travis]

There are things you can hit us on. Like. Like you can hit us on Clay's absolute overconfidence that he would not drown, slash be eaten by sharks swimming from Alcatraz yesterday. Like, you can hit him on that, you know, or I love the AI that shows me all warm and cozy, drinking coffee on the shore that our team pulled together while you are swimming away from the sharks. You cannot hit us on. We did not hammer Biden's dementia, Obama's third term, Obama's advisers making all the decisions. I think that I said whoever's making the decisions in this White House as a. As sort of an addendum to anything that Biden signed or did probably a few hundred times on this show since we started. Ok? Same with Clay. We have been. So it's a fair point from our. From our dear listener. We appreciate it, but we did not miss this story. We talked about it ad nauseam. Okay? Ad nauseum. So there are things you can hit us on. It's like saying, buck, you didn't hate masking enough under the Foushee cope? No, no. I hated it more than anyone. Longer than anyone.

[Colby Ekowitz]

So to be fair, let's go again. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney and Trump, we do not have yet that audio in. We'll play it for you when we do Thomas in San Die. What's up?

[Caller]

Hey. Hey.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Yes.

[Caller]

Let me get right to my point again in the same vein as the last caller. Love you guys. But today, you guys are way off. All right? I feel like calling you both Captain Obvious. Okay? No kidding. It's like a book came out saying the sky is blue. Really? And the media was biased and lied. Wow, what a revelation. And then I got Clay, of all people, sitting here mentioning criminal charges twice. I'm gonna tell you what we need to move on to. Now, we all know the obvious. Here's the problem. We have to be. And I call it MAGA-AF. And it's not the AF you think. It's Accountability Force. Okay, you guys sound like the Jim Jordan caucus where they go on Fox and they talk a great game. But the biggest question you should be asking is now what? What are you gonna do I don't want to hear criminal this, criminal that. We can't even get a subpoena. I know Fauci has a pardon.

[Colby Ekowitz]

All right, okay, so what do you want?

[Caller]

Subpoena him. Subpoena him. Bring him in. He cannot plead the Fifth because of the pardon. And ask him direct questions. And if he lies now, the pardon doesn't cover his current lies. We have so many levers we could use with the FBI, the doj. I promise you, if the shoe was on the other foot, we'd already have subpoenas flying out of Congress. We'd have the DOJ pulling people out of their house in the middle of the night. Oh, as I recall, we've already seen that. We need to start holding this administration accountable. And if you want to put it in the media's face, go on their shows, and every question they ask, preface it with, you have no credibility. You said Biden was sharp. Now, what are you trying to question and catch me on? I mean, what are we doing? Trump sitting down with these same media jackals and giving them the time of day? Who cares about these books?

[Clay Travis]

So I. I appreciate. I appreciate your passion. I have a couple of questions. One, do you feel like the Trump administration is not moving fast enough, doing enough, or aligned enough with the mission so far? Because it sounds to me like when you said hold the administration accountable, it's been 100 days. Is the hundred days not good in your mind? Like. Like, let's. Let's get into reality here a little bit. What is your criticism of what they've done in the three months that this has been the administration?

[Caller]

Okay. I hate when people answer a question with a question, but do you think. Do you think.

[Clay Travis]

Wait, what is your question that I'm supposed to answer? I don't run the FBI, number one.

[Caller]

Number one, Trump is doing everything he can. Okay. Number two. Okay, all right.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Caller]

No. Okay. No, they're not doing enough. All right? Trump has all the things he promised. Shut the whole.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Okay, who do you want to do more?

[Caller]

Okay. The. The Republican Congress, they control everything. Probably not for long if they keep going at this pace of doing nothing. I want to see people subpoenaed. I want to see. And I want you guys, when you talk to Rand Paul, I know what he's going to say. Fauci this, Fauci that. Okay, now what? What are you going to do about it? I'm tired of the talk and pointing out the obvious to us. We all know the guy was out.

[Clay Travis]

Can I ask you, what do you think happens if you subpoena? No, this is important. What do you think happens if they do subpoena? Like, we'll get Senator Rand Paul on later and we talk to these people that you. You want to do more. So we can certainly try to pass along some of your passion and your message. What do you think is going to happen if they subpoena Foushee? You seem to think that subpoenaing is a. Is a magic bullet, so to speak. Like, what do you think happens if they subpoena Fauci?

[Caller]

Well, first of all, ask. Ask Steve Bannon. Okay. For starters. But I'll tell you what's going to happen, okay? Is they. Everyone who's been given these pardons. Again, Captain Obvious, why have they been given pardons? Okay. They've been given these. These ridiculous pardons, and Congress has sat there. So tell Rand Paul, call them in. All right? Put them under oath. He can't plead the Fifth. Okay. And he has to answer direct questions. And if he lies, do exactly what they did to everyone in Trump's first term who supposedly defied subpoenas and lied. You got to fight fire with fire. Someone hits you with a stick, you got to hit them back with the whole damn tree. If we don't do that, it's going to be overcome the midterms. All right? Because we're going to lose it. And then you think Trump is handcuffed now. He's going to be completely out of the game.

[Clay Travis]

So Trump is a. Trump is doing amazing work. You agree with that? And I would assume his administration, what he wants to. I'm sorry, I didn't miss that. What was.

[Caller]

He doesn't need to run for reelection. So he doesn't care about polls or what anyone says.

[Clay Travis]

Right. Okay.

[Caller]

He still likes to be like.

[Clay Travis]

So the administration is doing. Is doing great work. I just bring this up because when you're talking about Foushee, you seem to think that even if we got Foushee in handcuffs, right. That that would be some dream come true. Meanwhile, having Dr. Marty McCary and having RFK Jr having these people fundamentally trying to reorient these institutions and make them function better based on what we've learned about what happened under Biden and people like Foushee, isn't that a more important mission even than the humiliation of Foushee, which I think has already occurred? And knowing that he can't go. He's not going to prison for anything that he did, Clay.

[Caller]

It is not.

[Clay Travis]

I'm buck, but it's close enough yeah.

[Caller]

Oh, I'm sorry, Buck. They can chew gum and walk at the same time. If you want to stop Democrats for doing what they did, you have to do it times 10. I don't care about humiliation. Every one of those people who got a pardon, they need to be brought in and everyone involved. You could probably pick up people who don't have the pardons based on the truth they're gonna either have to tell or they're themselves are gonna lie under oath. It's one or the other. So here's my point. If you don't want this to go on after the midterms, hopefully, if the Dems, you know, hope, I hope they don't win. But if they do, they're gonna keep doing the same stuff if you want them to. You fight fire with fire. You don't sit there and go, we're gonna be that. We're going to take the high ground. We're going to.

[Clay Travis]

No one said take the high ground. I mean, haven't there been a lot of government officials? We just talked yesterday to a former FBI special agent about the FBI special agents reassigned. There have been thousands and thousands of people fired from the federal government, including USAID. There's obviously been some justice for the J6 prisoners because of, thankfully, Trump's pardon of them. I mean, I, I, again, I appreciate the passion and I get that there's a, there's a desire for like the bare knuckle brawling right to come out, but I do think that this is not 2017. A hundred days in this administration is doing the things they said they would do. And when you say Congress, the truth is that Congress is going to turn around and look at you and say, we don't have 60 votes in the Senate, we can't pass major bills subpoenainaing people can and will happen, I think, depending on which committee you're talking about. But that's just more of the conversation that we're already having about the lies that Fauci told about the operations of the deep state. I think fixing these things, which the executive branch is doing, is a far more potent response than looking, you know, it depends. Some days we're told, stop talking about the COVID up of Biden, stop talking about the deep state. We want you to focus on what's going on now and Trump's agenda then we try to focus on Trump's agenda. We get. Hold on. You're letting them get away with it, you know, so to be fair, I think we're trying to establish some Kind of a balance here.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Clay, I agree.

[Caller]

To be fair, where is the Epstein files? Where's all these things that seem to.

[Clay Travis]

Me like I, to be fair, did I or did I not tell you that there would be nothing in the JFK files and that the Epstein files would not be released?

[Colby Ekowitz]

Okay.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, I tell you the truth. So there you go.

[Caller]

The Rand Paul's and these people, we need to push them because trust me, if the again, we have to, we have to give them an incentive not to do the same thing.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Okay, let me talk for one. Let me just say this about Rand Paul. The guy got beaten nearly to death by his neighbor over his politics. The guy has been, yes, the guy has been dragged through the absolute mud over being one of the bravest and most outspoken people in the entire country over Covid. As angry as that random caller is from San Diego about Dr. Fauci, Rand Paul wrote an 800 page book laying out in explicit detail how much Foushee has lied about gain of function. Function. You can go after people, those guys are fired up and angry and they put their lives legitimately on the line every day. I don't think saying Rand Paul's not doing enough is a very effective line of attack.

[Clay Travis]

So, so here, here's. Look, I mean there's a reason we let that call her because I think that there is there a sense out there and we see in your talkbacks and your emails, you know, on the one hand, I want us to feel good about what's going well and what's going right. And we've discussed this, you know, a couple of weeks ago, whenever the tariffs, the Trump economy, what did we say on this show? Trump knows what he's doing. He's got the right team. It's going to work out. Now, Rand Paul disagrees with the tariff approach, by the way. And we'll talk to him about that because we want it. He's among the most principled members of the United States Senate, in my opinion, among the highest IQ people in the United States Congress, in my opinion. And I think that to Clay's point, he's been a warrior on a lot of issues, when it counted. We'll hear from him on tariff. Some of you agree, some of you will disagree. But don't for a second think that there is anybody who wants justice and wants there to be accountability for what was done wrong under the Biden administration than the two guys that you are listening to day in and day out on this show. And we appreciate that you give us your time because we could go back and get into some of this. There is a, you know, a lot of people on the right have taken a lot of heat from those communists for a long time and now, finally we can set this right. So the passion that we hear, we appreciate, but there is an absolute focus here on following through on the mission, on getting the information out there about what Trump and his team are doing and, and yes, trying to push Congress, where possible and intelligent to do more to help in that mission.

[Colby Ekowitz]

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