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Clay Travis
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See full terms@mintmobile.com welcome in on this Tuesday edition. Clay Travis, Buck SEXTON show. The number one story remains what is going to happen in Iran. And President Trump has sent very strong suggestions that this is going to be winding down very, very soon. And as a result, the stock market is surging today, as Trump has said, look, the reality is the United States is not particularly reliant on oil and gas arriving through the Strait of Hormuz. And as a result, it is not the responsibility of the United States to be the world's policeman as it pertains to oil and gas being able to come through. Early morning press conference from Pete Hegseth basically letting it be known that there are still a lot of different options. And I thought most interestingly, Buck saying actually regime change did occur. Now, we still don't officially, at least publicly know who is going to be running things from Iran. But Pete Hegseth this morning in a press conference from the Pentagon said regime change has happened and then if Iran is not willing to make a deal, we'll continue to rain down holy hell upon them. This is what that sounded like. Cut 5 if Iran is wise, they
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Pete Hegseth
will cut a deal. President Trump doesn't bluff and he does not back down. You can ask Khomeini about that. The new Iranian regime should know that by now. This new regime, because regime change has occurred, should be wiser than the last. President Trump will make a deal. He is willing and the terms of the deal are known to them. If Iran is not willing, then the United States War Department will continue with even more intensity.
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Buck Sexton
So that was Pete Hegseth.1. The other one is President Trump made it quite explicit as Pete Hagseth said in a choreographed truth posting this morning. Listen to Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War, analyze what President Trump said. Cut six.
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Pete Hegseth
I think the president was clear this morning in his truth that there are countries around the world who ought to be prepared to step up on this critical waterway as well. It's not just the United States Navy. Last time I checked, there was supposed to be a big bad Royal Navy that could be prepared to do things like that as well. So he's pointing out this is an international waterway that we use less than most. In fact, dramatically less than most. So the world ought pay attention and be prepared to stand up. President Trump's been willing to do the heavy lifting on behalf of the free world to address this threat of Iran. It's not just our problem set going forward, even though we have done the lion's share of preparation to ensure that that strait will be will be open, which is an outcome the President's been very clear on.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, Buck, my biggest takeaway here as I analyze everything about what the president and what Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War, said is it feels to me like Trump is looking for a way to kind of deliver a coup de grace of sorts and just say we're out a drop the mic moment that he proclaims as victory and is able to step out. And then in theory, gas prices return to normalcy. The stock market, as you are seeing today, is buying into that idea as it is surging very much. Is that your analysis of where we are? How would you analyze the latest statements on Iran from the President and Pete Hegseth?
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Clay Travis
Well, first up here is his truth that he put out. It is called the truth, not a tweet. Technically, all of those countries that can't get jet fuel because of the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran. I have a suggestion for you. Number one, buy from the U.S. we have plenty. And number two, build up some delayed courage. Go to the straight and just take it all caps. You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be there to help you anymore, just like you weren't there for us. Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard part is done get go get your own oil. President Donald J. Trump no, thank you for your attention in this matter. So I guess he's just had enough of people expecting him to always thank them for the attention. Clay Trump wants the strait open and I think to move on from this as soon as possible. So if the strait opens up, if there's some agreement with Iran that allows the administration to say, you know what, we're able to now stop the continuous airstrikes. They'll take that off ramp, I think, very quickly and. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
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Buck Sexton
No, I think that builds in. To me, what is being sought here is an opportunity that feels significant that President Trump can take as the climactic action that demonstrates this entire operation is over. And I think the way the stock market is reacting today is that that is sooner rather than later. You said you thought April 1st. We're sitting here at March 31st. I think I said by middle of middle of April at the latest. So we're very much in agreement in general with the timing here. And it feels to me like that this is Trump signifying to everybody, hey, most of this work is done. I also think, Buck, it factors in a bit for this possibility. Israel may not be done. And it may be the case that we begin to step back from the perspective of the United States military action and that as a result, Israel is in many ways operating on their own timeline, which might be a bit different than ours.
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Clay Travis
That would be. I think that would be a big problem because if we, if Iran doesn't create a choke point at the strait by threat, if Iran basically says, we agree, we will not hit any oil tankers in the strait or any ships at all, for that matter, and then Israel continues airstrikes, I think Iran's going to say, hold on a second, this is our leverage. So I think, I think the Israelis have to cut it. If we cut it as well, they can't continue on with the campaign unless they want to be in a position where essentially the United States will have a ceasefire of sorts and the Israelis will continue the conflict. I think that's a very tough look for the Israelis if that were to. If that were to go down that pathway. So in the meantime, we're hoping that they end this thing as quickly as possible and that gas prices normalize and all these things allow us to move on. I mean, Secretary of War Hegseth has been very clear that he thinks we are close to this being done. And in terms of the boots on the ground situation, we didn't play eight yet, did we, Clay? Cause I think this is important. This is the big concern here. He is talking about boots on the ground and how this is about options and getting to the desired outcome. It's not telegraphing or making promises in advance of a negotiation with the enemy.
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Pete Hegseth
Play eight as far as President Trump and boots on the ground, I don't understand why the base, which they have already, they understand, wouldn't have faith in his ability to execute on this. Look at his track record pursuing peace through strength, America first outcomes. What he's simply saying, and it's exactly true, and I've said from this podium, too, we're not going to foreclose any option. You can't fight and win a war if you tell your adversary what you are willing to do or what you are not willing to do to include boots on the ground. Our adversary right now thinks there are 15 different ways we could come at them with boots on the ground. And guess what? There are. So if we needed to, we could execute those options on behalf of the President, United States and this department. Or maybe we don't have to use them at all. Maybe negotiations work, or maybe there's a different approach. The point is to be unpredictable.
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Clay Travis
In that clay, he's basically saying, trust in Trump. Yeah, that's the strategy. Trust in Trump. He knows what he's doing. We're going to get to the other side of this. And I'm getting the sense still that most Republicans, Democrats, I can't wait. Because they hate Trump and you know that they're. But most Republicans, I think, are still in the trust in Trump phase because other than a spike in gas prices, what is the loss that would turn them against Trump so much? I don't think it's there. And even the boots on the ground possibility right now is being used as leverage. It's not actually happening.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I think that's where Democrats get lost. Still with Trump, he throws out a variety of different perspectives. And again, I think one of the most successful things Trump has done is keep Iran on its toes and not aware of what's going to happen. He caught them by surprise on the June attack when we bombed initially. He clearly caught them by surprise when they took out the Ayatollah. And so Iran right now is sort of on their back foot trying to assess what's likely to end up happening. And I don't think there's an easy answer as to what exactly they are able to do. I will say there's a ton of vehicles, ton of boats moving through the Strait of Hormuz today, which is the highest level of boat traffic that we have seen in basically a month. And I do think that that is a. That is a tacit sign that some elements of Iran have been telling the oil and gas community, hey, we are okay with Having you being able to transit and we're not necessarily going to attack. You remember the Strait of Hormuz. Is Iran cutting its own throat? Because the only way this regime has any money at all is from sending their oil and gas through the Strait of Hormuz. And so if Iran is bombing, you could say, yes, well, they could let their own fleet go through and they could bomb other boats, which I guess is a possibility there. But I think that's going to be a hard distinction to make and that ultimately the fact that we're seeing way more ships go through in transit, I think Buck, is actually a sign that Iran is trying to prove to Trump that he is negotiating with people who do, in fact, control decision making in Iran. And whether or not ships are allowed to go through is a sign of this regime having some control, the new regime. Because, remember, theoretically, Little Mo, the son of the ayatollah is in charge, but we still have no idea where he is or who is making decisions.
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Clay Travis
And most of us may be gay, we're told yes, which is an interesting twist of fate that we were told this by the president himself. And then I think Trump said, you know, not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Buck Sexton
That's right.
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Clay Travis
But there would be something wrong with that in Iran. To be clear, Little Mo, you would think would have a problem if everybody knew that. So that might have been an information operation of some sort to just get that out there. Because I think it's hard to run a malacracy if they think that you're actually a gay guy.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, that is a tough position to be in in Iran. And President Trump, I thought, kind of did the talked about that in a humorous way as we played for everybody on the Five when he called in and he was asked directly, did the CIA tell you that he may, the leader may be gay? And he basically went full Seinfeld. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Okay, we will take some of your calls. We got them loaded. Guest list. Isabel Brown is going to join us. She got ripped on the View for having the incredibly controversial opinion that it's good to get married and have kids and you should do it. Babies are good. Have them. Congressman Chip Roy is going to join us. He'll give us the latest from Capitol Hill on the chaos there as the Senate has abandoned town and the House is still trying to get things done. And then, Buck, I'm super excited for this. The head of NASA, Jared Isaacman, is going to join us as NASA is poised to launch a sort of a circle. I think of the moon tomorrow as part of the new goal to put a colony on the moon, which is for those of us out there that are kind of a little bit interested in space or sci fi. A new unique and I think achievable goal. But he is the head of NASA and he'll be on with us in the third hour of the program. Bottom of that hour, I think we'll have a fun conversation with him. So all that coming your way. If you are listening to us right now and maybe you are like, oh my goodness, it's only Tuesday and I don't have a lot of energy and I don't have a lot of vim, vigor and vitality, it might be because your testosterone level is not as high as it used to be. And that's where our friends at Chalk can make a huge difference for you. Choq.com is the website Use my name Clay for the best discount possible out there. Plus right now you'll get a 99 lit powder included for all new subscribers. You can cancel at any time. What do you have to lose? In just three months time you can increase by 20% your over test overall testosterone levels. Go to chalk.com code clay that is C H O Q code clay clay for the best discount on subscription for life. You'll be glad that you did it. You won't want to miss it. Choq.com My name Clay that is choq.com My name C L A Y Clay Saving America One thought at a time Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We've got a lot to get into today. Even had a very interesting Supreme Court decision come down. And Clay, we haven't talked yet about the birthright citizenship Supreme Court oral arguments that have happened. That is a big one. That is one of the probably will be. I don't know. Is there a bigger Supreme Court case of this term for at least the Trump administration and policy to consider than that one? So we've got a lot of things happening and going on. I will tell you today, Clay, that I am this is in the not as big of a thing, but I am in Palm beach area today and I was saw our friends from Tunnel to Towers last night, saw Frank Siller, saw Mr. Sean Hannity. Dennis Quaid was there, good golfer, often
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Buck Sexton
at the Tunnel, the Towers events.
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Clay Travis
He's a golfer. See, I have to. I have to. You're the go, by the way. They all ask me, they're like, when are you gonna learn golf? Because you're our golf representative of the show. I don't play. I don't understand. Why can't there be tennis charity events like this? Like, it's always golf everywhere.
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Buck Sexton
You need old guys that don't have to have a lot of athleticism to be able to do things for a long time. And golf is the one that you can hang on to for longer than most sports, I think is the is the easy answer.
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Clay Travis
This is probably a time to admit because we're going to talk a lot about serious stuff in Iran and world peace and the economy and everything in a moment here. You know, I've been nursing a little bit of an injury on my arm and people it's actually technically tennis elbow. And people have been saying, well, you must have gotten this from tennis. No, Clay, it's worse than that. I got it from Padel. What is Padel, you might ask? I wonder how many of you have even heard of this. Padel is a sports ball game that is incredibly popular, particularly in Latin America and parts of Latin America and Europe. It was invented in Mexico. It is most probably common or like most beloved in Spain, actually. It's rapidly growing all over the world. It's a little bit like tennis mixed with squash mixed with pickleball, I think, all together into one. And that is how I got injured. But I will tell you, we're going to it's enormously popular in Miami. I never even heard of it until I moved to Miami. There's Padel places opening all over the place. We're going to have to get you on a Padel court. I've realized this is we're going to have to get some video Clay does Padel people.
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Buck Sexton
This feels like your pistachio ice cream take. Although I will say the fact that it's popular in Latin America this Feels like a very. What is it like a very bougie way to, to, to play sports. Would this be the, this is the anti football. Is that a fair way anti American football sport if you had to select one.
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Clay Travis
It's a lot of, A lot of Latins, Latin American folks or Americans of Latin descent that I know play this. Also play polo. So I think that tells you something.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, that's super. I wouldn't even think of polo because it's so high end. I don't even. Nobody's ever invited me, thankfully, to get on a horse and try to hit, ride around and hit something. But I have to stop making fun of disaster.
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Clay Travis
I have to stop making fun of producer Ali and pickleball now because I've, I've crossed over and started playing Padel. So this is, this is my thing now. I want to have, I want to do a Padel fundraiser for like tunnel the Towers, because there'll be a lot of super rich guys from Latin America and Spain and stuff who can be there and can write checks because I can't golf. You are a golf representative. How would you describe your golf swing?
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Buck Sexton
I would describe it as awful. To, to sum it up in one word, it would be, it's a little bit better than Charles Barkley's golf swing. But. But I would describe it as awful on a basic level.
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Clay Travis
How much? What is your handicap?
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Buck Sexton
If we're going, I think I would be like a 20. You know, I don't get to play that much. I am, I am not a good golfer.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay. Travis, BUCK Sexton SHOW we got some great guests coming your way in the next couple of hours, but we have got tomorrow. Buck, you mentioned that the Supreme Court is going to be hearing oral arguments on whether birthright citizenship should or should not be the law of the land. And look, I'm not optimistic that the Supreme Court is going to be willing to do what I think they should do, which is say that this whole concept of that citizenship by soil as opposed to citizenship by blood, which we'll get into some tomorrow, is going to be really interesting to hear how those questions come down. But in the meantime, we did have a Supreme Court ruling that came down 8 to 1 a little bit earlier today right before in fact we came on the air 8 to 1 Supreme Court ruling saying that a law in Colorado which tried to ban conversion therapy, which we'll get into a bit, was unconstitutional. The only, the only justice that lined up and said hey, I think this ban was constitutional was Katanji Brown Jackson. And even Elena Kagan went after Katanji Brown Jackson who filed a 35 page dissent. And it is, look, I think the last curse of the Joe Biden era is unfortunately going to be with us for a generation plus which is he put a wholly unqualified far left wing politician, not a judge far left wing politician on the court. And even left wingers on the court are I think frankly embarrassed that Katanji Brown Jackson is there. And Buck, even Elena Kagan who whatever you want to say about Elena Kagan, she is a smart, principled leftist jurist but understands how the law works. I think former dean of Harvard Law School, you may not agree with her, but you're going to read her opinion and say there is a foundation of constitutional jurisprudence under, under girding her opinions that is not occurring here. And unfortunately, Ketanji Brown Jackson basically is, is, is going to be worthless for generations.
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Clay Travis
Just to give everybody a little bit of, a little bit of a background on this. Right. So the supreme court, Clay, mentioned eight one decision, Chiles vs Salazar, Chiles v. Salazar. And so Kaylee Chiles was a licensed Christian mental health counselor in Colorado who was giving talk therapy to people and she was working with clients who wanted to reduce same sex attraction. The state of Colorado has a, had a law in place and there are other states with this that prohibits people who are this was a licensed therapist, prohibits licensed therapists from working with people at their request to talk through and reduce same sex attraction or gay attraction. Right. And meanwhile, they also had a law. This is the part of it that was really telling you what's going on. By the way, what happened to Colorado? I used to think of Colorado as like cowboys in the mountains, and now it's like communists running wild. It's just gotten completely. The politics there.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. And remember, Buck, they. The Colorado Supreme Court is such a mess that they said it was constitutional. Everybody forgets Democrats tried to take Trump off the ballot in Colorado. Supreme Court said, you can do this. The United states Supreme Court said 9, 0, you can't. It's hard to get 9, 090.
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Clay Travis
I know. Even Jackson. Think about that.
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Buck Sexton
Even Jackson. Crazy. Ketanji Brown Jackson was like, guys, you went too far.
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Clay Travis
Think about how stupid that is. A state thought that they could remove a person from the ballot who had no criminal conviction and no constitutional bar to running. Think about how insane that is.
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Clay Travis
I mean, that anyone actually ever. And there were people going in msnbc, I'm a legal scholar, you know, I defend this. You know, anyway, back to this, this gender therapy or same sex attraction therapy stuff. Clay, if somebody went in, though, seeking therapy to make them more trans, that was under the law. Yes, you could make somebody more. You could push somebody down the trans path, but you could not push them back from the edge of the gay path, essentially. And so the law was, was clearly. I mean, this is obviously First Amendment discrimination. There's no. 8. Eight justices found this to be First Amendment discrimination. Ketanji Brown Jackson decided that words were medical care in this context. So essentially she was treating this like a surgery. And so if you tell somebody, hey, maybe you're not gay, maybe you're just in a moment of confusion in your sexuality. You know, you're. But this was for minors, mind you. So these are including teenagers. Maybe you're not gay. Maybe you're having a moment. Let's talk this through. That's like doing a, a unchangeable surgery on somebody, which, by the way, they do on the other side for the trans people. They actually do surgery. But words here were being treated by Katanji Brown Jackson. Jackson, I mean, she really is. She's the MSNBC comments section made into a Supreme Court justice. She is untethered to the law and unhinged when it comes to the Constitution.
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Buck Sexton
It kind of gave you a sense that there was a discomfort with her being on the Supreme Court, where a lot of times they're very collegial. Relationships even across different perspectives on how to apply constitutional jurisprudence.
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Clay Travis
Scalia and RBG were tight.
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Buck Sexton
That's a great example. They were very good friends, even though intellectually they disagreed very often. There was a acceptance of a principled disagreement on how to apply the law across. To Buck's point, Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg both very smart and had different readings. Elena Kagan I think that there are a lot of people out there who say, hey, I may not agree with her, you know, renderings of judgment, but I trust the intellectual heft that she is bringing to bear on those opinions. When Amy Coney Barrett, Buck, I thought it was very significant. Amy Coney Barrett does not seem like the kind of person who wants to take a two by four to people very often. She seems like what she is, a mom who tries to be kind. And some of her responses to Katanji Brown Jackson were the equivalent judicially of just throwing your hands up in the air and saying, I can't even stomach these arguments. They're embarrassing. They don't recognize any past precedent. And Elena Kagan kind of did that in this 8:1 opinion again on the left. Elena Kagan kind of saying, like, come on, this is an utterly ridiculous to your point, Buck I think it's a, you know, blue sky Reddit board, far left wing take. And that's fine if you have to. Far left wing takes. But being a judge who does this is just again, I think the final, final awful echo and reverberation of the Biden administration that unfortunately is going to be with us for generations.
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Clay Travis
And he told us that he was going to limit the, limit the pool to black female jurists, which given the actual interpretation of the Constitution in most recent years is really not okay. Not allowed to do that. I don't know how you know, what you can do about the legality of such a thing. But Clay, if you, if we put out a job, let's just say we put out a job opening for this show and we said, hey guys, great opening. You know, we got, we got great producers here. We're going to have a fabulous team for you to work with. We're only hiring black women for this job.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
We would be sued and we would lose. Yes, no question. And by the way, rightly so, like that would be a clear violation of the standards that you can use under the Constitution and under non discrimination and employment. That's how he set up a Supreme Court appointment. He said it out loud too. It's not like we're surmising this, he said it out loud. And you have somebody who is just. I agree with you, by the way. I don't, I see things differently than Kagan, but I respect that she's at least trying to stay within the law.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Ketanji Brown Jackson, you know what she's going to do more or less based upon what your standard MSNBC watching leftist wants to happen.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Which is not the way it's supposed to be.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. And again, it's not even a judge opinion. It's just crazy left wing opinion. And I said this at the time, Ketanji Brown Jackson's appointment under federal law was unconstitutional. What do I mean by that? You are not allowed under federal law to say, I am only going to consider a black woman for a job. First of all, it's demeaning to the black woman because if you pick a black woman for a job and you've eliminated, what is it, 97%, I think of lawyers, 98%, maybe even were eliminated on their face when Biden said, I'm only going to pick a black woman. So you're saying I'm only picking a judge from 2% of the legal community. And then he picked one that was not particularly astute or talented in the black female legal community.
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Clay Travis
Can we, can we unpack this first? Let's unpack this for a second. He picked her. She had been a judge before. Ok. Did she have a leg up in that appointment because she was a black woman? Yes.
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Buck Sexton
The only reason she got the job in the first place was because she was a black woman.
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Clay Travis
But I'm saying, you know, just keep, keep working it back from there. Oh, oh, she went to Harvard Law. Okay. What were her LSATs? Did she have a life? We know that generally speaking, overwhelmingly black students of her age that went to Harvard would have had a tremendous benefit from their race. That, as we know, the Supreme Court has actually said you were not supposed to have, you're not supposed to have that. That's wrong. So you can work it all the way back. And people, because when you'll say, oh, she's not qualified, they'll say, well, she was a judge before and she went to Harvard Law. Yeah. Well, did she have those things because she was a black female? These are, these are entirely valid questions, which I know until recently, we're told we're not allowed to ask these questions, but actually, no, you can ask these questions because like we said, Elena Kagan is a, is a, you know, a gay woman. She's a lesbian. She's A very talented lawyer and she's very, very smart.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
So it's not about identity, but the left makes it about identity. There are black women who would be great on the Supreme Court. There are black women who would absolutely deserve that job. I don't think that Ketanji Brown Jackson is one of them.
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Buck Sexton
I agree.
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Clay Travis
And that's just, you know, observing what we can all see here because they never say, look at the, look at the depth and clarity of the opinions. I know they have staffs, but the opinions put out are, look at the depth. And Claire Clay, she speaks like five times as much as all the other jurors together or some. I mean, it's not that much, but it's a lot.
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Buck Sexton
Well, and again, that goes to. I think that she has broken a lot of the collegial norms. I think a lot of people are fed up with her on the court. And I think even leftists are of the opinion like Elena Kagan is, where they just kind of roll their eyes and say this is a poor choice and she's going to be there, Buck,
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Clay Travis
for 30 more years, a very long time. Well, but also it's a reminder Biden, we got sold on Biden to the degree that we were actually sold on him. Just let's, let's, let's just take, let's move past that for a second. You know, the country was sold on Biden, so to speak, as the Uniter Clay, and as he's not a radical. What better, what better example can you have of the actual radicalism and practice of the Biden administration, which we could sit here and we did for years, talk about it, but we, whether it's the COVID stuff or the spending or the trans policies or the wide open border, Joe Biden was the Trojan horse for far left Obama ist policy, if you will. And there's no better example of him being a far left figurehead than Ketanji Brown Jackson. That's the supreme, that's the moderate Supreme Court justice that we get from a Biden administration.
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Buck Sexton
Also remember that he picked Kamala Harris after saying he would pick a woman as his running mate and eliminating all men from consideration. And then he took it a step further by saying, I will only pick a black woman. And the result is I think we have ended up with the least qualified, most political Supreme Court justice in any of our lives. And I was just looking up to see how old she is. And unfortunately, Buck, we're going to probably have her if, if age is any expectation for another 30 years. I would also point this out as we go to break here. Supreme Court requires a majority Senate approval. There is a possibility out there that Republicans could lose the Supreme Court, could lose the Senate in November and that Trump basically would not be able to get anybody appointed. Just like with Ruth Bader Ginsburg who thought, hey, I'm going to live forever and left behind the opportunity to have Obama be able to appoint her replacement. Look at this situation. Right now. We've got Clarence Thomas around 75. We've got Alito around 74. If I'm not mistaken, it may be five or six years until Republicans have what they have now, which is control of the Senate and the presidency, to be able to control who gets on the Supreme Court. Everybody who gets into their 70s seems to think that they're going to live forever and be healthy forever. The data often reflects that's not true at all.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
All right, welcome back in here to Play and Buck. We have a lot that we're going to be getting into with you today. We're going to update you also on the the TSA and DHS funding situation because it feels like that's getting better, but it hasn't come to a full resolution yet. We'll talk to Texas Representative Chip Roy about that. It's, you know, Clay, we get to this point where I think it just becomes very. Oh wait, actually I had a, I had something I want to throw in the mix. I'll hold that for a second. Democrats just made a lot of people ruin their vacations and ruin their day. Hundreds of thousands of people for no reason. Yeah, except that they're bitter that they're not in power. Just I hope everyone remembers that because they're getting nothing out of this other than the bitterness that they spread everywhere because that's what Democrats do. But some a bit of good news. I'm here in West Palm. I meant to mention this the first hour. Do you know what Ron DeSantis just signed?
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Buck Sexton
I did. I saw this. But tell the people it's a positive aviation story.
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Clay Travis
Palm Beach International Airport is being officially renamed Donald. Donald J. Trump International Airport, which is just fantastic. I got to say, I love it. It should be named. I mean, what other airport would be named? This should be the airport name for him. And I'm also going to say this. Miami, your airport compared to Palm Beach Airport. Palm Beach International Clay is like private aviation compared to Miami. Miami airport is like, is like a bad day in a third world airport every day. It stinks. Palm Beach International, very civilized.
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Buck Sexton
That's why I also fly into Fort Lauderdale. It's a little bit of a difficult travel schedule sometime, but it's way easier to get in and out of. Great guest Isabel Brown, Chip Roy, Jared Isaacman of NASA. Still to come. Keep hanging with us. Next couple hours.
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Clay Travis
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