Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H2 - Are There Six Sexes?

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H2 – Are There Six Sexes?

Date: March 7, 2026
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Key Guest: Jesse Kelly

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on political and cultural controversies, most notably Texas Democrat James Talarico’s claim that there are “six sexes," and the implications of such statements for the upcoming Texas Senate race. Clay and Buck scrutinize Talarico’s views, connect them to broader trends in Democratic politics, and bring humor and skepticism to the discussion. The episode also touches on topics including media treatment of American sports figures, foreign policy toward Iran, and a lighthearted debate about electric cars. Jesse Kelly joins as a guest to provide additional Texas political insight and his trademark irreverence.

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Major Topics & Discussion Points

1. U.S. Military Actions in Iran (03:07–06:06)

• Buck details the U.S. campaign against Iran:
  • "We own the sky. We have technology and military capacity that is just far beyond anything the Iranians could even imagine." (03:24, Buck)
  • The goal is to "completely neuter" Iran’s military capabilities.
• Discussion of the political challenges in the aftermath of military action.

2. Travel Dangers for Americans Abroad (04:30–07:11)

• Clay and Buck joke about traveling to hostile countries: North Korea, Russia, and China.
  • Buck: "I didn’t bring a single piece of electronics with me. Not even a Kindle. Nothing with electricity." (05:02)
  • Both agree they’d only go in official capacity, especially under Democratic administrations, expressing more trust in Trump administration’s willingness to help Americans abroad.

3. The "Six Sexes" Debate – James Talarico’s Controversial Claim (08:17–14:25)

• Clip: James Talarico claims, “Modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes. In fact, there are six…” (08:17, Talarico)
• Clay and Buck react with incredulity and try to list what the six sexes might be, mocking the lack of clarity:
  • "Somebody would have been great to just push him on this thing. Be like, okay, since you think there are six, what are the six?" (08:48, Buck)
  • They debate differences between chromosomal abnormalities and gender identity, noting Talarico conflates terminology for political reasons.
• Producer Greg provides research: the “six sexes” refers to different chromosomal arrangements (XX, XY, X, XXY, XYY, XXXY) - all rare and not aligned with current gender identity debates.
  • Buck: "None of this has anything to do with the gender identity discussion or debate that the left is obsessed with." (13:20)
• Clay: "This is not going to play well in Texas, Buck, the six sexes." (11:36)

Notable Quotes

• Clay: "Oh my God, this dude’s crazy, Buck." (15:10)
• Buck: "He’s a preacher of Moloch... cloaks himself in biblical verse in order to promote the teachings of the Antichrist." (15:12)

4. Talarico’s Other Progressive Statements (14:25–16:01)

• Clip: Talarico asserts, “Trans people need abortions too... Woman is not an exhaustive term...” (14:46, Talarico)
• Hosts discuss how such views will be a liability in conservative Texas politics, encouraging Democrats to “spend tens of millions” promoting such unpopular positions.

5. Texas Senate Politics & Trump’s Influence (26:14–29:41)

• Jesse Kelly joins to discuss the Texas Senate race:
  • Talarico is "a far left loon... he is going to get curb stomped in November." (28:24, Jesse Kelly)
  • Kelly warns Trump may endorse establishment Republicans, potentially undermining grassroots efforts against John Cornyn.

6. Electrics Cars Humor & Masculinity (22:12–24:59, 31:05–33:33)

• Clay reveals he bought a Tesla, provoking lighthearted jabs:
  • Jesse Kelly: "Every man needs something to hop in when he has to go pick up some tampons at CVS... I hope you have a Save the Planet bumper sticker." (31:17)
• Debate over convenience vs. inconvenience of EV charging stations versus masculinity and autonomy in driving.

7. Reflections on U.S. Warfare, Media & Masculinity (34:15–39:11)

• Military Modernity: Jesse Kelly opines on high-tech, “video game” nature of modern American warfare.
  • "It's easy to break things. It's hard to make things." (34:15, Jesse Kelly)
• Short Attention Spans: Conflicts like Iran's will garner fleeting media/public attention.
• Media Treatment of Men: Discusses sports media outrage at US Men's hockey team and broader cultural disdain for traditional masculinity.
  • Jesse Kelly: "For these humorless scold Karen feminists driving their Subarus in the American media, they always have to talk down to somebody and scold somebody." (38:10)

8. Other Quick Takes & Call-ins (44:33–47:04)

• Caroline Levitt (White House Press Briefing): On Iran: “They refused to say yes to peace.” (44:49, Levitt)
• Calls from listeners: Playful suggestions about Clay’s travel challenges and reactions to show topics.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• "We own the sky. We have technology and military capacity that is just far beyond anything the Iranians could even imagine."
  — Buck Sexton (03:24)
• "Modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes. In fact, there are six..."
  — James Talarico (08:17)
• "This is not going to play well in Texas, Buck, the six sexes."
  — Clay Travis (11:36)
• "None of this has anything to do with the gender identity discussion or debate that the left is obsessed with."
  — Buck Sexton (13:20)
• "He’s a preacher of Moloch... cloaks himself in biblical verse in order to promote the teachings of the Antichrist."
  — Buck Sexton (15:12)
• "He is going to get curb stomped in November. He has no chance whatsoever. The things he says will go over like a turd in a punch bowl in Texas."
  — Jesse Kelly (28:24)
• "Every man needs something to hop in when he has to go pick up some tampons at CVS... I hope you have a Save the Planet bumper sticker."
  — Jesse Kelly (31:17)
• "It's easy to break things. It's hard to make things."
  — Jesse Kelly (34:15)
• "For these humorless scold Karen feminists driving their Subarus in the American media, they always have to talk down to somebody and scold somebody."
  — Jesse Kelly (38:10)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:07–06:06: Discussion on Iran airstrikes and dangers of international travel for Americans.
• 08:17–15:12: The “six sexes” statement, mock debate over what they are, and the threat (or lack thereof) this poses to Texas politics.
• 26:14–29:41: Jesse Kelly’s assessment of Talarico, GOP dynamics, and critique of Trump endorsements.
• 31:05–33:33: Tesla jokes, car culture, and masculinity.
• 34:15–39:11: War as a “video game,” and cultural/media disdain for traditional men.
• 44:49: Caroline Levitt’s briefing excerpt on Iran negotiations.

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Episode Tone & Style

Humorous, irreverent, and pointedly skeptical of progressive claims about gender and Democratic politicians; lively banter with regular injections of sarcasm and comic relief; political analysis with a culturally conservative bent.

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Summary

This Clay and Buck episode uses the controversy over "six sexes" as a lens into Texas politics and the disconnect between far-left messaging and mainstream cultural attitudes, especially in conservative states. The hosts, with an assist from Jesse Kelly, lampoon what they see as ideological excesses and lack of clarity among progressive Democrats, while also touching on U.S. foreign policy, media bias, and the balance between tradition and technology—in both politics and personal life. The result is an episode thick with humor, skepticism, and sharp political takedowns.

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Transcript

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[Buck Sexton]

of play and buck kicks off right now. First hour we talked a lot about Iran and the unbelievable aerial campaign that we are getting a lot of details from a secretary of War. Pete Hegseth, commander of centcom, I believe did a pretty detailed briefing. I was watching that last night on what we are hitting in that country. And they are just any military. We own the sky. We have a technology and a military capacity that is just far beyond anything the Iranians could even imagine. And that is on full display. And the idea here is to completely neuter the Iranian military and make it so that they can't hit us. And now it's just a question or it will become a question of what the political resolution will be when they no longer have the capacity to fire off missiles and create that kind of mayhem. We wanted to though to shift gears here for a second. Oh, and by the way, we will let you know if Clay decides to take a week on the beach in North Korea if he wants to go to one of these North Korean resorts. We're going to make sure Laura has like extra special insurance, you know, kidnapping insurance in place for him. And, and we, we will let you know in advance before he is the

[Clay Travis]

only country Buck that with your CIA expertise you think might be crazy enough to actually take an American hostage. And I mean somebody.

[Buck Sexton]

They've done it before.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, but I mean like an actual media person because a lot of times you'll see.

[Buck Sexton]

I wouldn't go to Russia. I wouldn't go to Russia either. I know there are some Americans, including on the right who have been there in recent. I wouldn' to Russia because you just if they decide that there's something about China like I've been to China.

[Clay Travis]

But would you go now?

[Buck Sexton]

I would, yes. I would go back to China but I would be very nervous about it. I would be. I would Not. I would not be having a great time checking out all the temples and the, the history and everything else. I would be. When I went in, Clay, I didn't bring a single piece of electronics with me.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And that was because I knew from my old life what the Chinese do. And I. I didn't even bring a Kindle. I mean, nothing if it had electricity. Did not bring it. I brought a wind up watch. That was it. And then I rented a phone there.

[Clay Travis]

Guess what? That.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I rented a phone in country to use and just knew that everything, everything was being monitored and everything was being tracked. And that is the way that that country functions. And that, by the way, that is. That is not paranoia. That is reality.

[Clay Travis]

There.

[Buck Sexton]

There's. No, it's not.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, maybe.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, no. I was being monitored for sure. So that. That's. That's a country that I would go back to under this or on behalf of the U.S. government.

[Clay Travis]

Absolutely.

[Buck Sexton]

As a civilian, probably.

[Jesse Kelly]

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Russia.

[Buck Sexton]

No way. I would go as a civilian. I'd go on behalf of the US Government, but only in an official capacity. And North Korea, certainly only in an official capacity. Not as a. Not as a civilian. Because, you know, everyone thinks that our government's going to have their back and take care of things. The State Department's pretty busy. You do not want to be relying on some embassy bureaucrat somewhere to be getting your case in front of the president asap. Although, hopefully, Clay could call Trump and be like your good friend Buck. He's. He's in Pyongyang in a dungeon. We got to get him out. We got to get him out. Some people are saying, you know, I don't think Trump would let you or me rot in a Pyongyang dungeon, but it might take him a few days to get us out. So I would rather not do that. All right, let's get into. Let's get into. Oh, can I also add, by the way, a Biden administrator. I would feel differently going as a civilian under Trump that I would under. Under a Democrat.

[Clay Travis]

We actually feel good because we like the Trump White House, and I do think Trump would get us out, but I don't know that Biden would. I don't know that.

[Buck Sexton]

I think Biden would let us rot for a while. I really do. I think either of us. I think that's just the nature of America today, unfortunately, that the Democrats are so partisan on this stuff that they would want to make an example anyway. So, yes, Clay, don't. Don't go to North Korea. And in the meantime, we got James Talarico. What does that have to do with anything? Well, he's now the Democrat nominee for that Senate contest in Texas, and he has said some interesting things. He has said some interesting things. We talked about this in the last hour. We mentioned we would get to this in the last hour. By the way, we're hoping that Yael Eckstein of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews will join us during the third hour. She's in Israel. Calm situation there. Can be a little difficult getting all of our Internet stuff lined up, but we'll see if we can get her. We'll certainly be talking to her soon about what the sense is from the ground in Israel, given the war with Iran going on. Of course, Israel's a participant in. Israel's engaged in these airstrikes, too. So here we have Talarico. This was back in 2021 when he was a state rep. This is cut 29. Listen to this.

[James Talarico (clip)]

I want us all to be aware of is that modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes. In fact, there are six, which, honestly, Representative Hefner, surprise me too. Surprised me, too, because I, I, you know, am not well versed in this. This issue area. I'm not a scientist. I'm a politician. A lot worse than a scientist.

[Buck Sexton]

There are six sexes.

[Clay Travis]

Would you even know what they would be?

[Buck Sexton]

I'm not going to say.

[Clay Travis]

I have two. Good guess.

[Buck Sexton]

Somebody would have been great to just push him on this thing. Be like, okay, since you think there are six, what are the six? Do you think you and I could come up with male, female, now? Playing their crazy game trans, non binary. That's four. Ok, we got two more, buddy.

[Jesse Kelly]

I'm.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm blanking out right here.

[Clay Travis]

But is trans even one that you would acknowledge? I thought the whole thing with trans was.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm sorry, Clay, are you erasing trans people right now?

[Clay Travis]

Yes, of course you are. I think I'm actually making the pro trans. I thought the whole trans argument is that they're actually just the sex that they claim they are.

[Buck Sexton]

You. This is fascinating because you are correct. And yet I think it is recognized as one of the six in the Talarico construct world. Yes.

[Clay Travis]

So it could be trans. So trans female, trans male would be two, even though they're arguing that they're actually the same. Right. That, that. That this is not a tr. Like so. And then inters. Would intersex be one, like where you're actually a. Of male, female, which is a Biological reality. Probably that.

[Buck Sexton]

That is a very rare. It used to be called.

[Clay Travis]

Is that a bad word now? I don't know.

[Buck Sexton]

No, no, no.

[Clay Travis]

That you still use now in that context. Not sure what's appropriate.

[Buck Sexton]

And then with hermaphrodites, often there is. We're talking science here, folks. So just be.

[James Talarico (clip)]

Just trying to be.

[Buck Sexton]

Often it's. There's more of one set of gonads than the other. And usually a hermaphrodite will have, for example, a micro penis, which is a real thing. It is.

[Jesse Kelly]

It is.

[Buck Sexton]

I know a lot of you want to make jokes about Democrats right now, but there's a real thing I made. It is. Yep. There's a. There's. There's a thing called a micropenis. And that hermaphrodite. This is science. I could hear. I could just feel some of them laughing as. This is science. You call me fauci.

[Clay Travis]

You are a hermaphrodite. They treat you as a woman and pump you full of estrogen.

[Buck Sexton]

Right?

[Clay Travis]

Isn't that typically the way I think

[Buck Sexton]

you are generally more female than male as a hermaphrodite. Hence the micro penis reality, which I think they. Because it is truly like a vestigial and so it can be removed and you get into whether your gonads are internal or external. Obviously external gonads would be male genitalia. I believe hermaphrodites tend to have the internal genitalia, which is why they are. For a whole bunch of reasons, they're more female than male. And that is how they go. But okay, but back to the six sexes. So we're here.

[Clay Travis]

This is not going to play well in Texas. Buck, the six sexes.

[Buck Sexton]

What the heck is Buck talking about? Internal gonads, external gonads.

[Clay Travis]

I'm just saying the six sexes. When they put this ad up and he's wearing a mask and he's testifying under oath that there are actually six genders or six sexes. Most Texans are going to say what is going to become rapidly clear as these ads start to run. This guy is not some moderate middle of the road religious Democrat, which is the way that they are going to try to contextualize him. He's actually as crazy as most Democrats are, maybe even crazier.

[Buck Sexton]

This. This is. This is producer. Producer Greg, I think, just pulled this for us. So in this case, his six sexes, he's talking about chromosomal abnormalities. So it's actually not. They're talking. He's talking about sex in the context of chromosomes, not gender. Identity. So we went to gender. You know, this is the. We went to gender identity. He's talking about things like XY is male, XX is female, just X is Turner syndrome, XXY is Klinefelter syndrome, XYY is Jacob's syndrome, and xxxy. Okay. By the way, these are all scientific or medical realities. They're very, very rare. None of this has anything to do with the gender identity discussion or debate that the left is obsessed with.

[Clay Travis]

Correct?

[Buck Sexton]

So, so the only one that would. You'd have to look at it. I don't even know what all these different, I mean, team look up how common are these things.

[Clay Travis]

And by the way, that's only five. So I don't think. Again, he didn't further answer to your point. This is one where the follow up question should have been. Okay, sorry, what are the six genders? This is just them looking this up and giving us five. Here is Tran, here is.

[Buck Sexton]

Wait, but hold on a second, hold on a second. Klinefelter syndrome is a genetic condition in males.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Buck Sexton]

This is not, this is not a. This is not. This doesn't mean you're a different.

[Clay Travis]

He's talking about the gender identity stuff and they.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, but. No, but he's trying to conflate it is my point. He's playing games here because this is

[Jesse Kelly]

what I was going to say.

[Buck Sexton]

I was saying if you, if you have an extra chromosome, you have some. You generally have low fertility. And maybe this is why he knows so much about this low testosterone. But you're a guy. No one thinks you're not a guy. You just have a chromosomal issue, right? So you're not a different sex.

[Clay Travis]

Here are a couple of other examples of this guy being crazy, by the way. And this is why I think again, his trans takes here are going to be everywhere. And most Texans are going to say this guy's crazy. He says trans people need abortions too. Woman is not an exhaustive term. Cut 27. Does this sound like a Texan moderate to you?

[James Talarico (clip)]

I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion care too. Defending trans Texans is something we have to do every day at the state capitol. And you better believe I'll be giving sermons on that too. So when I use the word woman, it should not be understood as an exhaustive term, but rather as a, as a lens through which to understand, examine and interrogate patriarchy.

[Clay Travis]

Oh my God, this dude's crazy. Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

No, this guy's, he's a, he's a Preacher of Moloch. I mean he is somebody who cloaks himself in biblical verse in order to promote the teachings of the Antichrist. I don't know what else to say. I mean this guy is out of his mind. This stuff that he's saying is completely what, what Christian, what Christian faith does he say that he represents or how does he get here? You need to have trans kids, you need to have abortion all nine months of her pregnancy. You know, what else does he want to add into the mix? How does he feel about polyamory? How does he feel about having nine wives? I just, I can't wait to see him start to explain that one to us. You know, what about a throuple? He could, I guarantee you this guy could find you a biblical justification for being in a throuple.

[Clay Travis]

It's not a surprise that all of this is coming out now. I would just say I think there's been a little bit of play and possum when it comes to Talarico and Democrats have been saying, oh, he's a very moderate, middle of the road guy. There's actually a lot of crazy out there from him. And I don't think it's coincidental that he wins the nomination and suddenly you're starting to see all of the opposition research that's been done on him. And I, again I, I, I think Democrats, I would encourage them spend tens of millions of dollars, flood the Texas economy with a lot of your dollars from outside the state and let's see what Texans think of this. Cause I don't think this race is going to be close whether Ken Paxton or John Cornyn ends up being the the nominee. By the way, Caroline Levitt has just taken the podium for a White House press briefing. We will continue to monitor that and make sure that we bring you any news that comes from that event. In the meantime, buying a new roof, not something you think about every day, but it's very important. And if you think about replacing your roof this year, go to eriehome.com Clay Erie Home is a 50 year old company specializing in making sure your roof is in excellent shape. You want to make sure to protect your most expensive. Purchase your home and with the help of Erie Home, you'll get a roof with a 50 year warranty. One that's transferable. Take advantage of their offer. They'll inspect your roof for any problems free of charge using a 25 point inspection they've developed over their many years in business. If your roof needs a replacement, Erie Home will offer all kinds of options, including newer metal materials made to mimic the look of the roof you likely have now. These will make sure that your roof will last two to three times longer. Schedule your free inspection at Eriehome.com clay and get up to 50 off installation. That's eeriehome.com clay e r I e home.com clay get an incredible offer up to 50 off and you will be glad that you did [e-mail] Clay you

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[Clay Travis]

Travis Buck Sexton SHOW I don't know what Jesse Kelly, our next guest, is going to say about me now having a Tesla, but. But a lot of you teed off on me. I. I thought this was going to be popular. I need my pro Tesla talkbacks instead of all these people taking shots at me. Here's John in my own hometown of Nashville. 98.3 1510 WLAC. Here is what he had to say.

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, hey Clay, how can you tell somebody who drives a Tesla? Because they'll tell you about it and tell you about it and tell you about it.

[Clay Travis]

Have I talked about how awesome my new Tesla is? It's really pretty outstanding, Tom. In Arizona you can still get a dui. He wants everybody to know in self drive. B, just so you know, because I know you guys like your alcohol. You put that car in self drive mode, you still get pulled over, you still get a dui. Doesn't matter that the car is driving. Yeah, totally. That is 100 true. Because you still might have to take it over. What I'm saying is going forward, we had this discussion. It could diminish DUIs, because I think the future is going to be. You won't even have a steering wheel in some of these cars. Mike in Omaha, kfab. What's he got for us?

[Buck Sexton]

If you really want to give up your driving ability, your driving liberty, your freedom to an autonomous car, good luck with that. You realize where that's headed to, right? At some point, Covid should have taught you a lot of things, guys. Apparently you forgot the lessons of COVID I don't know. I get on a plane and I entrust myself to where the plane is going.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's a good argument also.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm just saying I'm not like this. 737 would be better off if I was at the controls.

[Clay Travis]

Well, a lot of people came after me on this. You can still control the car, right? You can turn off self drive. In fact, you pay for it. So if you think that at some point in time the government is going to take control of all cars and they're not going to allow people to take them wherever they want to go,

[Buck Sexton]

I.

[Clay Travis]

We're screwed on every level. So I don't know. I mean, I still have a gas powered car too, but if you think that the government taking controls of all electric cars and suddenly the gas powered cars are going to be great and the country's going to be going fantastic. I don't want to get at the side the, the. All the people out there who are big believers in crypto after me. But my concern is if crypto becomes undisputably, indisputably necessary, Buck, we're in real trouble. And I just, I think it's probably going to come back to guns and big badass guys more than guys with computers who are going to run the world.

[Buck Sexton]

That's my speaking about who's going to run the world when things get really rough. People who have gold, they're going to feel really good about themselves. In fact, they'll feel good about themselves if we just have more of what we've already seen, which is global instability, money printing from America and all the big banks out there, and just the dilution of our currency. Gold is something you can do to hedge against this. And Birch Gold Group can help you convert an IRA or 401k into an IRA and gold. They can also help you get gold at your home. That's what I've got. I'm a gold buyer. I'm a believer in gold. The long term thesis is sound. Text BUCK to 9898 98. Porch Gold Group can help you diversify with gold. Text my name b u c k to 9898 98. Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We were talking Texas. We spoke to our friend Michael Berry and we couldn't leave out our other favorite Texan, our friend Jesse Kelly, who joins us now. Syndicated radio host on Premier Networks, host of the Jesse Kelly Show, a man of both tremendous insight and tremendous humility, joins us now. Mr. Jesse Kelly, you are welcome as always, sir.

[Jesse Kelly]

It is somber, somber day here in Texas. I, as a, as a radio host and TV host, I don't endorse political candidates. It's not something I've ever done. But I broke that rule in Texas yesterday and I endorse Jasmine Crockett as the Democrat nominee in Texas. And I wake up today and find out that Jazzy did not win her primary. This is an outrage. There had to be cheating of some kind. I don't even know how I'm going to go on, but I was pulling for big time.

[Buck Sexton]

It's just racism, Jesse. I think that's very obvious. Democrats are very racist, very sexist and they don't want the future to be female. And they see a powerful black woman and they stand, they threw everything in her way, these Democrats. It was dirty, it was underhanded. And I'm sad, too. I can see how we're both in. Clay is in a state of mourning.

[Clay Travis]

I, it's hard for me to get out of bed. I just, it's racism, racism, racism. Texas Democrats should be ashamed. The white guy wins again. And another talented black woman, black girl magic. It just, I believed in it. I'm like you, Jesse, and it just didn't come through.

[Jesse Kelly]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

All right.

[Clay Travis]

Let me ask you this, by the way, more seriously, this just came down. President Trump has posted because we have a runoff now, right now between John Cornyn, current senator in Texas, and Ken Paxton. And President Trump has just posted that he is going to be endorsing soon and he expects the other candidate to drop out. And we don't know exactly how that endorsement would go or what that might be. But James Talarico, we've been playing cuts from him. We'll play a few more for you during the course of the show. He is like a crazy left winger. It feels like Democrat Republicans have been playing possum a little bit here because he got the nomination and suddenly there's 20 videos of him saying crazy things that are immediately out. What's your read on this? Regardless of who the Republican nominee is, is Talarico a threat?

[Jesse Kelly]

No, Talarico is not a threat at all. He's one of these guys. He's a state rep here. People aren't going to know him, but they'll start to know him now that he's going to get national recognition. But he's well known here as being a far left loon. His little district is far left. He's been a far left loon his entire time here in the Texas state legis. And because he's been in the legislature, he's on camera saying all of these things. He is going to get curb stomped in November. He has no chance whatsoever. The things he says will go over like a turd in a punch bowl in Texas. He has no chance whatsoever. We all just have to sit back right now and hope and cross our fingers that Donald Trump doesn't do what I'm very worried he might do for all the things he does well, he might be the worst endorser of candidates in the history of the Republican Party. He will find the biggest rhino swamp rat loser and repeatedly endorse these people. We have a real opportunity to take a rhino scalp and remove John Cornyn from the gop, which he should have been removed a long time ago. And if Donald Trump kneecaps those efforts, I am going to be so irate I might just spike my microphone off the desk. If he does it, I hope he's not going to do it. I very much worry that he is

[Buck Sexton]

going to do it. What happened with Dan Crenshaw, Jesse? He's right. He's pretty close to, I mean, you're a Houstonian, which Houston is like, is like the size of Switzerland. The place is freaking huge. So I don't, I don't know, you know, if he's close to you in terms of the geography of his district, but he is in your general neck of the woods. Guys, out. You know what happened there?

[Jesse Kelly]

Well, this is this old saying in politics, really, honestly, in life business, no matter what you're in, there's no ability like life likability. It's just the fact you want to walk in the room and have everybody like you. And if you're whether you're at your job or in politics, things are generally going to go well for you. It served Bill Clinton right. Bill Clinton. We love to hate the Clintons, and I hate the Clintons as much as anybody else. Bill Clinton walked in the room and everybody liked him. Everyone wanted to be around him. He was patting everybody on the back.

[Buck Sexton]

He got.

[Jesse Kelly]

He rode that to two presidential terms. Dan Crenshaw rubs people the wrong way. He's a bristly person who can't help himself. He talks down to people in person. He'll talk down to constituents in person and tell you what a freaking moron you are. And you just can't do that and stay in politics long term. If it didn't end this time, it was going to end two years from now or two years from then. You cannot be that bristly guy. Everyone's a moron but me. And stay around. When you depend on people, on people's votes, it just won't work.

[Clay Travis]

Jesse, I bought a Tesla. I have no idea how you're going to react, but I feel like I should disclose to you and give you an opportunity to respond.

[Jesse Kelly]

Yeah, no, I. Clay, I know you're thinking that I'm going to make fun of you for that. I Absolutely not. Every man needs something to hop in when he has to go pick up some tampons at cvs. I'm glad that you got yourself an electric car now. I hope you have a Save the Planet bumper sticker on the back of it. I think it's just. It's the most Clay Travis thing I've ever heard in my life. It's just picturing you nancing around town in your Tesla. I hope it's hot pink because, look, it should be. It should be.

[Clay Travis]

I. Here's the deal. When you come to Nashville, I'm going to put you in the Tesla and I'm going to let the Tesla drive. And notwithstanding the fact that you are 8ft tall and probably don't fit very well in my sports vehicle that I purchased, you are going to say, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen. And also, I'm going to send you in to buy the tampons.

[Jesse Kelly]

Why? Why would I want my car to drive for me? I prefer to be in control. I want to accelerate when I want to accelerate and break the way I want. I want to turn the way I want to turn. I don't want anyone to drive for me. I don't want a professional driver, and I definitely don't want my fruity electric car to be driving me around either.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I want to ask you serious questions, but Clay. Clay is waving me off, just so you know. So we're not going to fix rule. Peace. Go ahead, Clay.

[Jesse Kelly]

Go.

[Clay Travis]

Just want to follow up and point out that since you only drink water and carry around a jug of water to drink all day, like the effeminate person that you are, this actually has a place to store your. Your jug of water so, you know, you could sip out of a long straw and make sure that you're fluidating. Well, I. I would think you would love that.

[Jesse Kelly]

No, look, in all seriousness, I. I am a. I'm a big fan of Elon Musk. I shouldn't say a fan, but I like that he bought Twitter. I. I think he's one of these highly intelligent people. World a better place. And I have friends who have Teslas. It's. It's the charging time that gets me in the Kelly household. Everyone knows we don't. We don't really stop even for bathroom breaks. Every three hours, you are allowed to stop. It will be 10 minutes at the gas station. Get in, go pee, get a Mountain Dew while dad fills up the car and then we're gone. I am not waiting in line to spend a half hour at a charging station. It's never going to happen.

[Clay Travis]

I respect that. I'm not driving this on a far distance. It charges at the house. All right, buck back to the serious world order here.

[Buck Sexton]

You see how he leaves it to me to be like, womp, womp, like, you guys get to have fun. It's like. It's like one of these brocasts where everyone's having a great time. Gafong. And I'm like, jesse, the current situation in Iran. But all right, I. It's. It falls upon me to bring this back to being a news and commentary show. Former Marine Jesse Kelly, Pete Hegseth is coming out. He's like, we're blowing up all their stuff. And the more stuff we blow up up, the more of it we're going to blow up. They're on the ground. We're kicking them in the ribs. We're finishing this fight before they can even get started. What do you think about these moves?

[Jesse Kelly]

Yeah, they're being completely annihilated and overwhelmed. It's already over. Once you've lost air superiority, especially to a country like the United States of America that can force project clear across the globe, we can fly planes from Iowa and bomb Iran. It's. It's staggering what we are capable of what our navy's capable of. Iran is finished. The regime is finished. We clearly know where everyone is, where everything of significance is right now. It's going to be a very enjoyable television show for Americans. We should keep in mind we already have Americans who lost their lives to this. Keep their families in our prayers. I will just emphasize the point I made. I'm still cautious and hesitant right now, but not because I'm concerned about our military success over there. It's easy to break things. It's hard to make things. It's not hard for the United States of America to wipe out the ayatollah and every single scumbag in Iran. We want to. It is another thing entirely to install a government friendly to us and acceptable to the people. That will be when it gets a little dicey.

[Clay Travis]

How much do you think I know you're a military history guy, too. Buck and I both love to read about military history. The degree to which war now takes place, basically like a video game, where for many people, we experience it, we see, hey, we dropped this bomb. The number of boots on the ground, entanglements seems to have diminished. You got even, even in. And I know they have the lines of battle in Ukraine and Russia, but much of that is now being fought by drones. How much do you think? There is a huge difference in the mind of many people out there between, hey, we're putting a lot of people on the ground, we're building bases. To Buck's point the other day, suddenly you have, you know, a McDonald's in Iran on an American military base versus we're just bombing from above or sending in drones from above. How much different does that strike the American public in your mind?

[Jesse Kelly]

I think that we as a people as a whole, I think we enjoy the video of it. And especially when we're winning and slapping people around you, that's the kind of thing that makes you want to wave your American flag. Hey, we got Madur. Hey, we're. We're bombing the crap out of Iran. And what is it? As you mentioned, it's on your phone, right? It's on Twitter, it's on Facebook or wherever, wherever you get social media, you're watching it happen in real time. And when you're the one doing the winning, it feels really, really good. I also think we are probably, for worse, a very flighty people now. Probably for a variety of reasons where people get bored of things, people will move on. I think Iran is going to be hot for a week, and then no matter what else is still going on? The American people are going to move on. The television show is going to get old. How many times do you have to watch something get blown up before you're like, okay, I've seen this movie before. I'm going to go complain about something else? I think people have a very short attention span now. And the Trump administration, I'm sure, understands that. He's been excellent at foreign policy. I'm sure he understands this thing needs to get wrapped up as quickly as possible.

[Clay Travis]

Jesse, one last, one last question for you.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, sorry. I just, I, I, I was off for a second.

[Clay Travis]

I was in there and he had his mic off for a moment.

[Buck Sexton]

No, I was just saying that was actually quite good. I was like, I felt like the raging Cajun in old school. And he's like, that was perfect.

[Clay Travis]

Let me ask you this as we, as we go out, normal guys, when you see the way that the Democrats and sports media and legacy media responded to the US Men's hockey team, does that resonate, do you think? There's lots of normal guys just kind of looking around like, so the President calling because we want a gold medal. Now is, is a huge story or is it like you just said, stories vanish so quickly that most people don't even know about the blowback.

[Jesse Kelly]

I think normal guys do care. For a short time, as we just said, for 24, 48 hours, the American media, most definitely the sports media, reminded everybody how much disdain they have for just normal dudes, not hardcore political people like us. Like everybody listening right now, just normal dudes who want to have a beer and watch a football game. The hockey team laughed at a pretty innocent joke the President made and the media had to make it a big I am woman, hear me roar story. And for normal people, well, look at the Democrat numbers with men. This is why men have fled the Democrat party. They continue to flee the Democrat party. They're tired of being talked down to for just being a normal dude. It's fine to take a, a call from the President and laugh at a quick little joke. Everybody's happy. But for these humorless scold Karen feminists driving their Subarus in the American media, they always have to talk down to somebody and scold somebody. Like Starbucks screwed up their half caf latte and it's absolutely brutal for its chafing on normal people.

[Clay Travis]

Amen. Jesse Kelly, Nationwide on many of these same stations, you can listen to them in the evening. And Jesse, I appreciate you joining us and I hope your hair growth product is working.

[Jesse Kelly]

You're a bad person, Clay. Good fellas.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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Welcome back in Clay Travis. Buck Sexton show. Let's run through Caroline Levitt. Having a White House press briefing right now. Cut 31. She's saying we made him a good offer, maybe even an offer you could say that they could not refuse. And they refused. Cut 31.

[Caroline Levitt]

US negotiators offered a lit to lift crippling sanctions on Iran and even provide nuclear fuel to Iran at no cost to support a civil nuclear power program. They additionally had the opportunity to accept U.S. support as an investor in potential projects to develop peaceful, useful nuclear energy together under a mutually agreed upon framework. Yet in response, Iran would have to forfeit their enrichment capacity once and for all. But Iran rejected. They accepted none of these generous and unprecedented offers by the United States. Simply put, they refused to say yes to peace.

[Clay Travis]

Well said. That is Caroline Levitt just a few moments ago in the White House. Ron and Spokane, really quick, what you got for us?

[Buck Sexton]

What I have for you is as Epic Fury works out, you think President Trump is going to be open to appropriating some of Iraq's Iran's oil revenues in particular? I'm thinking maybe limited to half of the sales to China to rebuild our military.

[Clay Travis]

I think that there will likely be some form of resolution that involves Iranian oil. And much like we've seen with Venezuela, I don't think that's a bad take at all. Funny. Talk back facts. Allison from la. KFYI listeners out there. Cut. Oh, hey guys, this is Allison from la.

[Caroline Levitt]

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[Clay Travis]

Clay trying to swim with the sharks from Alcatraz, but I. I highly suggest he goes back to that plan and forget about the going to North Korea plan. Very funny. Very well played.

[Buck Sexton]

I. I think you're safer, you're safer swimming from Alcatraz than you are going to North Korea.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's probably true. Melanie in Huntington, West Virginia. Appreciate all the mountaineers out there. Cut.

[Buck Sexton]

Pete, please, for the love of all

[Clay Travis]

that's holy, can we change the subject

[James Talarico (clip)]

and go back to putting Clay in a Korean jail?

[Clay Travis]

He was talking about the six sexes from that crazy man Talarico. Buck, when we come back, we'll dive into the Texas Senate results were scheduled to also have a gift guest from Israel. All that more. Third hour, Clay and Buck. You won't want to miss it. See y' all on the flip side,

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