Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H2 - Bright Red Line

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H2 – Bright Red Line
Date: September 20, 2025
Podcast Summary

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Overview:

This hour of “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show” centers on the political, cultural, and media fallout following the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Clay and Buck critique the reactions to his death—particularly from public sector employees and media figures—arguing for a clear societal standard (the "bright red line") about celebrating political violence. They also discuss broader media bias, the left’s tendency to protect its own, and the implications for America’s social fabric.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fallout from Charlie Kirk’s Assassination

• Main Issue: The hosts focus on the ongoing investigation into Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the motives (including ties to trans activism), and widespread reactions.
• Left’s Reaction: Buck laments that much of the progressive response is to deny ideological connections and blame mere coincidence.
  • “It’s a coincidence that Charlie was shot when being asked a trans question. Shot by somebody who had a romantic relationship with a transitioning trans individual.” — Buck Sexton [02:56]
• Guest Hosts: JD Vance and others will fill in for Kirk’s show, a tribute to his legacy.
• Ideological Divide: The hosts express concern about "both sides-ism" and denial of the left’s responsibility in fomenting political violence.

2. Media & Award Show Critique

• Media Elite Out of Touch: The Emmys are used as a symbol for the left’s self-reinforcing narratives. Buck and Clay note declining public interest and highlight Stephen Colbert’s win as emblematic of media’s resistance agenda:
  • “The point of Colbert’s show was not to be funny and get ratings. It was #resistance. They overpaid him to do it, and now they give him awards. This is how the left-wing media ecosystem operates.” — Buck Sexton [08:44]
• Award Show Activism: Clay points out the superficiality and predictability of leftist messaging at these events, referencing winner Hannah Einbinder’s “Free Palestine” comment:
  • “She said, ‘Free Palestine.’ Afterwards, she’s Jewish, and said, ‘I just think it’s important for Jewish people to speak out… what, in favor of the eradication of Israel?’” — Clay Travis [07:42]

3. Double Standards: How the Left Cares for Its Own

• Protecting Ideological Warriors: The left supports and provides platforms for canceled or unpopular figures, e.g., Keith Olbermann. In contrast, the right supposedly fails to do so as robustly.
  • “Left-wing billionaires in this country… make sure that fringe and delusional voices are well paid, well funded, and well distributed. And that has a massive negative impact on our conversations nationally.” — Buck Sexton [10:18]

4. Celebration of Political Violence & The “Bright Red Line”

• Public Reaction: The hosts are appalled by reports of teachers, pilots, and public employees openly celebrating Kirk’s death.
  • “There are two pilots… suspended… who also were in the celebrating Charlie Kirk’s assassination. I do not feel safe with a pilot who celebrates political assassination of an American.” — Buck Sexton [13:12]
• The Bright Red Line: Clay calls for unequivocal consequences for public employees who celebrate political killings, comparing it to standards on other forms of hate.
  • “If you are a teacher, I certainly do not believe that you should be in charge of molding young minds if you are celebrating political assassination.” — Clay Travis [28:50]
• Public vs. Private Employment: While private employers can choose, Clay draws a hard line for taxpayer-funded roles: advocacy for or celebration of political violence is grounds for immediate termination.

5. Listener Stories & Real-World Examples

• Call-in Segment: One listener shares that her children’s youth minister, who’s also a firefighter and EMT, celebrated Kirk’s assassination:
  • "He celebrated ‘one less maggot’ on the world." – Krista, caller [31:25]
• Betrayal of Trust: Buck underscores the betrayal when child mentors or authority figures espouse such views.
  • “Youth minister. And you can’t understand the obvious, unbelievable, and demonic moral failure of celebrating this in any way, shape, or form. It’s stunning.” — Buck Sexton [32:01]

6. Setting Precedents and The National Conversation

• No “Both Sides” Equivalence: The hosts argue that the left’s call for dialogue post-tragedy is disingenuous when it refused to check its own excesses.
• Standard of Humanity: Clay contends that celebrating assassination is a clear moral line everyone should agree upon, regardless of side.
  • “If you celebrate the murder of dads and moms for sharing their political opinions, in my opinion, you have failed the basic standard of humanity.” — Clay Travis [36:25]

7. Honoring Charlie Kirk’s Legacy

• Erika Kirk’s Statement: The widow of Charlie Kirk, Erika Kirk, delivers an emotional and defiant message, vowing that Charlie’s mission will not die.
  • “You have no idea what you have unleashed across this entire country and this world… the cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry… the movement my husband built will not die. I refuse to let that happen.” — Erika Kirk [21:54–22:25]
• Grassroots Response: Clay shares how young people are responding by starting Turning Point organizations and honoring Kirk on campuses.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Media Corruption:
  “The point of Colbert’s show was not to be funny and get ratings. It was #resistance… Now they give him awards for it. This is how the left-wing media ecosystem operates.”
  — Buck Sexton [08:44]

• On Left’s Care for Their Own:
  “Left-wing billionaires… make sure that fringe and delusional voices are well paid, well funded, and well distributed. And that has a massive negative impact on our conversations nationally.”
  — Buck Sexton [10:18]

• On Celebrating Assassination:
  “In uniform at work, no one has the right to advocate for politics… I don’t even see political perspective on ‘Hey, murder is good.’ I think you should get fired.”
  — Clay Travis [14:06]

• Listener’s Real-World Example:
  “He celebrated ‘one less maggot on the world.’”
  — Krista, caller, relaying a youth minister’s post [31:25]

• Erika Kirk’s Message:
  “The movement my husband built will not die. I refuse to let that happen.”
  — Erika Kirk [22:25]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Charlie Kirk Investigation & Reaction (Start to 05:06, resumes 20:53)
• Media & Emmy Critique (05:25 – 09:51)
• Discussion on Left's Support Network (09:51 – 12:29)
• Public Employee Reaction, “Bright Red Line” (12:29 – 16:50+, resumes 25:27 – 36:59)
• Erika Kirk’s Emotional Statement (20:53 – 22:25)
• Listener Calls: Real-World Examples (30:21 – 32:01)
• TMZ Controversy Call-In (41:30 – 43:44)
• Hosts Reflect on Video Impact & Precedent Setting (44:18 – 45:29, 34:05+)

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Tone and Language

The conversation is blunt, urgent, and at times emotionally charged, especially when discussing reactions to political violence and the standards for public behavior. The hosts express outrage, sadness, and resolve—with empathy for the Kirk family and righteous anger at those lacking basic moral standards.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a comprehensive and impassioned dissection of how society, media, and public institutions should draw clear lines when it comes to celebrating political violence. The hosts urge accountability for those in the public trust, highlight double standards in media coverage, and call on conservatives to reinforce societal norms. Throughout, they honor Charlie Kirk's memory by amplifying Erika Kirk’s resolve to carry on his mission.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

All right, welcome in, everybody. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Thank you for being here with us. First hour, we got into some details about the investigation into the assassination of Charlie Kirk. As we told you on Friday, the alleged murderer, alleged assassin, we legally have to say alleged, but we all know this is the guy. He is. He has been in custody as his father helped convince him to turn himself in. His father was law enforcement. We have details on his romantic partner, I guess you could say, which also goes to motive and ideology here that he lived with. Oh, and Clay, they're fighting that, I might add. The left is saying that has nothing to do with anything really. It's a coincidence that Charlie was shot when being asked a trans question. Shot by somebody who had a romantic relationship with a transitioning trans individual. No, these are not, these are not just coincidences. We all understand what's going on here. It goes right to motive. It goes right to ideology. We'll take more calls on this. I did want to just take a moment to get into some of the, some of the other important news that's also going on out there. One is, I'm sorry, before I do that, I mentioned that JD Vance is going to be guest hosting Charlie Kirk show for a day and others are going to be stepping into guest hosts as well. Just a tribute to Charlie and the incredible work that he did and the movement that he built, truly built a movement. And that is going to continue on in his honor, in his memory, and with renewed, I truly believe, renewed force and vigor from all across the sane spectrum, not even just right wing or conservative, just all sane and decent Americans see that there's a need here for what Charlie represented. But a couple things, Clay, on the, on the more daily news side of things or just the, you know, the other side of the news items. We're going to talk about the National Guard in Memphis. I think that's really interesting. I want to get into that. Something else just struck me for a second while all this is going on. Did you. I was not aware and did not see until this morning as I was doing our read in that the Emmys even happened.

[Clay Travis]

Did you see, I only knew they were happening because my friend Nate Bargazzi, the comedian, was the host. So I had seen that he had posted that he was going to be hosting them. I did not watch one single moment. I was traveling to get up to New York during the Emmys, but otherwise I would have had absolutely no idea.

[Buck Sexton]

I bring it up because one, it's funny how much these award ceremonies now have. You know, I remember when I was growing up as a kid, like the Oscars, for example, was absolute. Everyone watched the Oscars and you were really rooting for a movie to win. You know, no one, no one pays attention to stuff anymore. But I'll tell you, the Emmy for best comedy show went to Colbert, the canceled Stephen Colbert show, who ruined a dynasty, who ruined a franchise. They gave him the award. And I just think it goes to how out of touch deluded and kind of defiant in their absurdity. I mean, why did he get the award? Because the narrative is that he was anti Trump and. And some kind of an anti Trump hero. So the fact that he was overpaid and his ratings stunk don't matter. And that just goes though to everything you see with their media now. They are clay. They are unrepentantly, completely detached from reality.

[Clay Travis]

I have not paid attention to the Emmys since they gave Andrew Cuomo the special Emmy in the wake of COVID and then had to. Then they pulled his special Emmy after he was accused of sexual harassment. Not for sending everybody into the nursing homes. This did happen last night on the Emmys though. This is someone named Hannah Einbinder or Ein Binder.

[Buck Sexton]

Never heard of her before.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I don't know who she is, but she won an award and this is how she celebrated. I see it on the cut sheet here. Cut three.

[Buck Sexton]

Finally.

[Clay Travis]

I just want to say.

[Buck Sexton]

I just want to say finally.

[Clay Travis]

Go Birds, guys and free Palestine. Thank you.

[Buck Sexton]

That's like that, right, right there. You know that this is a person who has honestly just like low iq, low information voter. The. The most superficial and self congratulatory nonsense that you could say in one as the Birds thing, by the way, is that that's Eagles. Oh, that's for the Eagles.

[Clay Travis]

So the first one. The first one. Okay, like that.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm not trying to antagonize Eagles fans here. That's fine. But the rest of it, you know, the bleep ice, they're two and oh.

[Clay Travis]

They got the big win over the Chiefs. But yeah, F ice and Free Palestine. And then afterwards she's Jewish and She said, I just think it's important for Jewish people to speak out what in favor of the eradication of Israel.

[Buck Sexton]

There are, there are a lot of left wing Jews unfortunately who are deeply critical of Israel and, and are. And give aid and comfort to Israel's enemies. I don't know what else to say. That's not a. I. When I was doing Middle Eastern Studies 20 years ago on campus there were a couple of Jewish professors who taught Middle Eastern studies and they were rabidly anti Israel. So this is not a, a new phenomenon that you could have somebody that is taking that position. But yeah, I, I don't even know this person is. I didn't want to spend much time in it. For me it was more just the, the fact that Colbert. It reminds me of when they gave the. What is it the Pulitzer to. Was it the Washington Post for the Russia collusion reporting? Right. Wasn't it? Or the New York Times was one of them. They all.

[Clay Travis]

I mean the fact that they haven't pulled those, those awards is just.

[Buck Sexton]

But they're telling you who they are is the point. The point of Colbert show was not to be funny and get ratings. It was hashtag resistance. They did, he did that. They overpaid him to do it and now they give him awards for. This is how the left wing media ecosystem operates.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, I mean I think you should prepare yourself. I mean he's been fired by CBS and he's fired because his show is losing. I think they said $40 million a year. Prepare yourself. A left wing media organization will pay Stephen Colbert over $100 million contract. Just prepare yourself for. To buck's point, this is something that I think the right could do a better job of. There are lots of billionaires out there. You and I are fortunate. We've been able to make a living and a good living doing this. There are lots of people who struggle because they have politically unpopular opinions. I think the left does a way better job basically protecting and giving their advocates ability to make a living in media than the right does. Would you agree with that? That like there isn't like these.

[Buck Sexton]

The left takes care of their ideological warriors. They get canceled. They get. Remember Keith Olbermann who if you've seen on Twitter by the way is. Is completely deranged and has been for a long time and shown us even more recently how deranged he is. He is somebody who when he left MSNBC or was really pushed out at msnbc, remember he signed some preposterous deal with. I think it was Current TV at the time, this is going back a long time.

[Clay Travis]

Al Gore owned Current tv.

[Buck Sexton]

That's right. And he never had more than a few thousand viewers at a time. And the whole thing was. But he was making some absurd amount of money to do that. My point is that the left takes care of their people. Left wing billionaires. Left wing billionaires in this country, not just George Soros. There's a bunch of them, There's Reid Hoffman, there's others. They make sure that fringe and delusional voices are well paid, well funded and well distributed. And that has a massive negative impact on our, on our conversations nationally, really, about everything. I would also just add right now, Clay in the background, we've got CNN here in the office with us. Of course, Jeff Flake, he who was, was shouted at over the Kavanaugh thing. Remember that? Jeff Flake and Gabby Giffords have written a piece together saying for an end to political violence. Well, our side, we're actually always opposed to political violence. We don't wait. And this for me from a lot of Democrats has a hint of the call for ceasefire after October 7 to it, you know, something horrible happened. One person's responsible, maybe more. There might be co conspirators and I don't want to preclude that. But one person we know is responsible for the actual. But for the encouragement of the ideology, for the encouragement of the demonization. No, this is a broad left wing Democrat problem. And that they want to do this, both sides, ism drives me up the wall. And especially after what just happened. Notice, Clay, there's no, there's no accountability among people on the left for this. There's no sense that our rhetoric got overheated and crazy on this stuff. They just say, yeah, well, you know, it happens on both teams and no, it doesn't. By the way, I can sit here and rattle off all the. The only thing that they will point to that has any real connection to Trump world is January 6th. And the only person who was killed on January 6th was a Trump supporter, shot in the neck when she was unarmed. And you know, this is, that's it. This is the only thing that they can say. And I just feel like we play, we, we can't play into their hands by pretending like this isn't a problem that needs to be confronted squarely on the Democrat side of things. Because it is.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And I think we can get into some interesting discussion on the celebration of Charlie Kirk's death. I don't know how you feel about this, but if you are a taxpayer funded employee and you go on social media certainly if you're an elementary school teacher. Did you see the story, Buck, about the. I've got a 10 year old about the teacher.

[Buck Sexton]

We have people calling in, by the way, who have experienced what you're saying right now themselves. So we'll take those calls about the.

[Clay Travis]

Teacher who played the assassination of Charlie Kirk in his classroom and told the kids that Charlie Kirk deserved to be killed. I can't believe that's possible.

[Buck Sexton]

Let me point this out. There are two pilots who are now suspended. I'm not sure if they've been fired yet for major airlines. You saw this. Who also were in the celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination. I do not feel safe with someone driving an airplane with 200 people if I, you know that I'm one of. I do not feel safe with a pilot who celebrates political assassination of an American. And I don't think that's a strange position to have at all. I don't want to be on that person's plane. I don't trust their psych. I don't think they're psychologically fit to be at the controls of a commercial jet.

[Clay Travis]

I couldn't believe that I yes on that. Also I couldn't believe the number of people who were in uniform posting videos celebrating Charlie Kirk being assassinated. I don't think you should be able to be a police officer. I don't think you should be able to be a member of our military. Our taxpayer dollars are funding you and you. Some of these guys in uniform are celebrating Charlie Kirk being murdered. And I've said this for a long time, people get fired up on first Amendment in uniform at work. You shouldn't be, in my opinion, advocating for anything politically. This is an easy test. If I go to Walmart and I go through the checkout line and the person at Walmart says, hey, here's my opinion on abortion. When they're like checking me out for my. In my food. No, you should be fired, right? If I go up to McDonald's and try to get a hamburger and the person taking the order says, you know, meat's murder, maybe you should get a salad instead. You should be fired, right? In uniform at work. No one has the right to advocate for politics. And I don't even see political perspective on, hey, murder is good. I think you should get fired. If you're at work and you're advocating and if you're taxpayer funded. It's crazy to me the number of people who have failed a basic test of humanity, of, hey, is it okay to kill a dad if you disagree with him politically? There are tens of millions maybe of Americans right now who would say yay for that. I know they would celebrate if you or I got murdered. I mean, that's the reality.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show. We are working through the continued fallout of the assassination of Charlie Kirk from Wednesday. And there are a lot of different reactions that are pouring in. But I do think we should play Erica Kirk's inspiring comments that she made on Friday evening. In case some of you missed this, this is cut eight. Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's widow, two young children. Listen to this.

[Buck Sexton]

Evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have.

[Clay Travis]

No idea what they have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a.

[Buck Sexton]

Message of patriotism, faith and of God's merciful love.

[Clay Travis]

But they should all know this.

[Buck Sexton]

If you thought that my husband's mission.

[Clay Travis]

Was powerful before, you have no idea.

[Asma Khalid]

You have no idea what you just.

[Buck Sexton]

Have unleashed across this entire country and this world.

[Clay Travis]

You have no idea.

[Buck Sexton]

You have no idea the fire that.

[Clay Travis]

You have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry to everyone listening tonight, across America, the movement my husband built will not die. It won't. I refuse to let that happen. It will not die.

[Buck Sexton]

Powerful. I mean, I was watching it over the weekend, Clay. I was traveling and I watched and I actually gave a speech on Friday night in Las Vegas. And Erica had spoken just before I went on stage. And ever and everybody was saying, did you see Erica's speech? I said, yeah, a lot of tears. A lot, a lot of tears. But also just people in awe of the strength, the poise and the power of her words. Given the circumstances. I mean, none of us could even imagine what she's going through.

[Clay Travis]

I thought it was powerful. I went on immediately after and did the Sean Hannity show on Friday, his television show on fox news and 48 hours after her husband dies, super positive story that is out there is the number of people who are starting turning point organizations, young people on campuses, on high school campuses. I mentioned that my sons, my two oldest sons. Happy 15th birthday, by the way. To Lincoln. Today is my middle son's 15th birthday. So happy birthday, big guy. And he and his brother and most of their school wore ties and suit coats in honor of Charlie Kirk. They had a on campus meeting that they couldn't even fit all the people in the room. I think this is happening on campuses all over the country. I think it is an incredibly positive reaction. We'll continue to update you on all of this, including Dan Lanning. I thought Buck really powerful statements, particularly when you consider that he is Oregon's football coach, that he is, you know, dealing in a state that is not necessarily very receptive. We'll play you some of those cuts in a minute. And I was in Knoxville, Tennessee over the weekend for the Georgia Tennessee game. And the number of you out there that came up to me was absolutely fantastic to talk about Charlie Kirk. And I was just, it was great to be out in a public arena and if you are going to football games, if you are a fan of sports in general, I bet a lot of you were watching college football and the NFL over the weekend. How about the big Texas A and M win over Notre Dame? Eagles take down the Chiefs. Unfortunately, my Tennessee volunteers missed a chip shot field goal. Georgia won in overtime. You can get hooked up right now with prize picks. You can play in California, you can play in Georgia, you can play in my home state of Tennessee, you can play in Buck state of Florida. You get $50 instantly. We'll give you a pick on Thursday to let you know what we got going for all of you. $50 when you play, $5 just go to prizepix.com use code CLAY. That's prizepix.com my name CLAY. One more time. Prizepix.com My name CLAY. Sign up today.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. We're going to talk a bit here about the unhinged and demonic reaction to the assassination last week of our friend Charlie Kirk. It's important that everyone understand what is going on here and that we not push aside or sweep this under the rug or anything. We people need to know what some of the nurses, some of the pilots, some of the teachers, some of the go down the list what they think about this or what they're saying publicly about this. I will, I will point out Bill Maher on his show. This is cut 30 and he said this to me before and I'll get into Clay what he said to me because I think it goes right to this. But there is a huge difference even in just whether someone who is A leftist will talk to you or not if they know you're conservative. Play 30.

[Clay Travis]

They're the people who don't want to talk. It's my main issue with them. And Charlie Kirk was a guy who, like, he was always talking, and I talked to him here. You know, the right wingers say what you want about them, but they talk to you. They're not into this leftist think. The left really has much more of a, I don't talk to you. I don't want to deal with you. You're deplorable. I can't break bread with you. That attitude. And like all the right wingers, they. They don't have that attitude. No, again, I didn't vote for them. And Charlie Kirk and I certainly don't agree on much politically, but he sat here. He's a human being. He's not a monster. And a husband and a father. Yes. And I liked him. I liked them all. They're all nice people when you meet them in person, and they're not as crazy as they would. Nobody's as crazy as they make them out to be.

[Buck Sexton]

Say, Bill, when I did a show the first time, I don't even know now, Clay, years ago, and this is one of our first conversations backstage. He's like, I appreciate that you come here and you say what you say and you tell people what you think, but you're nice to everybody. You're cordial. You're not being a jerk. And he said, you're one of these happy warriors. I think that's a term very well applied to Charlie Kirk. Many have already said it. Happy warriors. Ideological or idea warriors.

[Clay Travis]

Right.

[Buck Sexton]

That's the whole point. It's supposed to be exchanging ideas. I don't take the positions that I take, and neither did Charlie. Neither do you, Clay. To make anyone feel badly, it's because we want to share the truth with other people. I actually want them to agree with me. I'd rather, much rather have them say, you know what, You've got a point. Or, you know what? You're right. Than to feel mocked and belittled or attacked. That's actually not the point. I mean, that can happen sometimes because of the way these exchanges go. But that's not the point of the exchange. But I know you're looking at this. I mean, there is a movement now to create a searchable database online.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

For people that are celebrating. And that is the appropriate word, they are celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which is so monstrous and so disgusting. What are you seeing about the Numbers.

[Clay Travis]

That have been gathered so far, supposedly 50,000 names. And here's the way that I would analyze this. 50,000 people who have gone on social media and celebrated the assassination. The way that I would work through it is this. I think if you are a public employee, I think you should be fired. That is, when I say public employee, I mean taxpayer funded. If you're a member of the military, if you are a member of police, if you are a member of first responding communities, firefighters, I think everyone who has gone on social media and celebrated a political assassination should be fired. I don't believe our taxpayer dollars should go for that. If you are. The University of Tennessee, for example, just announced that they have fired a faculty member who celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination. If you are a teacher, I certainly do not believe that you should be in charge of molding young minds. If you are celebrating political assassination. When it comes to people who are employed by private companies, I owned a company, I sold it, I would fire anyone at my company when I owned the company who went on social media and said in any way this is celebratory. I think individual business owners should have that right. I don't think certainly it should be mandated. If you're a private employee, if you did it in uniform at work, to me it's a no brainer. I would do it individually. But again, if you are taxpayer funded, I think we should have a pretty bright red line and I think the bright red line should be you shouldn't celebrate, hey, if Rachel Maddow got assassinated, if Barack Obama had gotten assassinated, you should be fired. If you are a military member, if you're a police officer, I think you can easily kind of work through this and I don't have a problem with that at all. Private employers I think should be able to, to make their own decision.

[Buck Sexton]

We'll take some calls here. Krista in Florida with a story that ties right into what we're talking about. Welcome, Krista. Hi, Clay and Buck.

[Asma Khalid]

Thank you so much for taking my call. I really appreciate it.

[Clay Travis]

This is, it's been shocking, it's been.

[Asma Khalid]

Heartbreaking, but I just want to read you from this man's LinkedIn page. Firefighter, EMT. Hazardous Material Specialist. Chemical material.

[Clay Travis]

Sorry, sorry. Let me say, can you not share full name? Because look, there could be. I will not, There could be somebody having imposters. I just don't want this station to be putting people on blast with us knowing anymore. Okay, thank you.

[Asma Khalid]

No, absolutely not. I will not say the name, just the credentials. Yes, because Then the most shocking part of that was this was my children's youth ministry leader, and he has, you know, he. He was working with my young adults.

[Buck Sexton]

And what did he.

[Clay Travis]

What did he say specifically?

[Buck Sexton]

He.

[Asma Khalid]

He celebrated one less maggot on the world.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, my God.

[Clay Travis]

I just. He was insulting our priest for praying. I mean, look, I appreciate you calling. Anyone who is involved in children should be, in my opinion, immediately fired from their job if they are in any way celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, thank you for calling. I know that's a tough thing.

[Clay Travis]

And a youth minister. I mean, come on.

[Buck Sexton]

Feels like such a betrayal. You've entrusted your kids to this person. Yes. For their moral development. Youth minister. And you can't understand the obvious, unbelievable and demonic moral failure of celebrating this in any way, shape or form. It's. It's stunning. And we're seeing so much of this and, And I just. I don't know. I. Clay, It's. It has made me think that this country has a. Has a darker future than I had anticipated before just because this. This has to be confronted. And I would just point out. And that's why I don't like this. Oh, it's on both sides. And let's just all do dialogue now. No, Charlie was doing dialogue. That's the point. Point. His whole movement was built on peaceful dialogue. And this is what happened. And look at all these people who are celebrating this. And now there's also this. Really, Honestly, it's just so lame. But this effort to say, well, conservatives are doing cancel culture. Now, everyone who's saying that if any person in any job said a particular racial slur, they would all demand the immediate firing of that person, probably in any context whatsoever. They all absolutely believe in people being fired from their jobs for offending or for political reasons or whatever. But now they're pretending like this isn't so.

[Clay Travis]

They.

[Buck Sexton]

They obviously have their red lines. They're pretending like this, celebrating the assassination of a father, a husband, a young guy, 31 years old. That's not a red line. Like, you should keep your job even after you have brought that kind of infamy on whatever organization you work for. That's insane.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And I also think this is where I always try to think on preced. And I know this is challenging, but I don't even know who the equivalent of Charlie Kirk would be on the left. But I've just used the name Rachel Maddow. Buck's right that she's not a perfect analogy. They don't have a Perfect analogy. Because their arguments are bad and they don't really believe in free speech.

[Buck Sexton]

By and large, they are very much trying to build up somebody on the left now as the new person for the youth. And he's a. I'm not gonna say his name on the show. He's a very bad person. He's just a bad human being. So I don't want to, but there's someone on the left that there wrote an op ed for the New York Times. As I understand it about this issue is a. I could play clips on this show. The fact the New York Times would give that guy. Well, the New York Times is a disgrace too. But it's interesting to me because our Charlie was a good and decent human being just completely without getting into his politics. And the left, of course, the person that they want to build up is an outright scumbag. Outright scumbag. Just so you just, Just so anyone who's curious knows he does. Does understand this guy, does understand Internet culture and online video games. That I will say, but that's about it.

[Clay Travis]

Well, let's use Rachel Maddow as an example or this unnamed guy. I also think if they were assassinated at a free speech event and you went on and you celebrated that as a teacher, as a faculty member at a university, as a first responder, as anyone who's employed by taxpayers, I think you should be fired for that too. So I think you can easily. To me, setting the precedent of where is the line that we draw. And again, I think private employers should be able to make their own decisions. I would have the same standard both directions. I would fire someone when I ran my own company. And I have expansive First Amendment beliefs. But people don't celebrate death.

[Buck Sexton]

So. So is the standard that the left thinks that we're all supposed to live by, that you can say absolutely anything, and I mean anything, and keep your job. Of course they wanted people to get fired for using the wrong pronouns. Okay, These are the people that now all of a sudden are free speech absolutist. The First Amendment means that the government can't take action against you for what you say. It doesn't mean that your private employer has to keep you employed no matter what you do and no matter what you say in public. That's not what it means.

[Clay Travis]

So I know that's why to me, I mean, again, you break it down. I think in times of emotion, it's challenging, but there is a standard for basic humanity. And if you celebrate the murder of dads and moms for Sharing their political opinions. In my opinion, you have failed the basic standard of humanity. If you fail the basic standard of humanity, I don't want you employed at my company. I don't want you instructing my children. If you are taxpayer funded, then I think you. If you fail the basic standard of humanity, you shouldn't be taxpayer funded anymore. Now, individual owners of businesses, I think they should have the right to decide who they employ and not. But this is not a tough call to me. We can debate sometimes gray areas of hey, what is acceptable speech, what's not. Cheering Assassination. You should get fired. In my always humble opinion, this is not a tough call.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Asma Khalid]

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[Clay Travis]

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Shop [e-mail] welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Tons of you weighing in, not surprisingly, on a variety of different topics. Buck, you want to punch some of these up? Let's Take. By the way, Senator Marsha Blackburn going to join us about the Memphis National Guard call out. Top of the next hour. What we got, Buck?

[Buck Sexton]

Sandy in Memphis. Let's take her call. What's going on, Sandy? Hey, guys. Love your show. Not sure if y' all mentioned this or not, but Harvey Levin is the.

[Asma Khalid]

TMZ guy, and he's.

[Clay Travis]

He was on air when Charlie Kirk's death was announced, and in the background were all his people he employs, and.

[Asma Khalid]

They were literally cheering and laughing and cheering, and.

[Buck Sexton]

So, Sandy, can I jump in? Just because I did watch this video. I just want to point something out, and I'm not saying that. That I agree or rather that I think this is true or not. They came on air and said, oh, the cheering you heard wasn't for that. It was for a car chase going on nearby. I find that, you know, very convenient under the circumstances. I'll say that. But I just want to be clear. They did try to claim right away that those were not related.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, I'm glad you said that, because I did know Hair. Harvey, or whatever his name is, did.

[Asma Khalid]

Put out a statement, but the statement I said saw, said we were not laughing at that.

[Clay Travis]

But he never followed up with. A normal person would say, I mean, Clay, did you.

[Buck Sexton]

Did you see this? I mean, first of all. And Harvey wasn't laughing at it, but there was. There was laughter in the background, or not laughter, cheering in the background, but they. In the moment, within a few seconds, said, I just want to be clear that's we're covering an unrelated issue, a car chase right now. So, I mean, I just want to be fair that they. They didn't say that an hour later. They said that, like five seconds after you heard the. The cheering or, you know, the cheering going on.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's. Look, I want to.

[Buck Sexton]

It was quick enough that I think it maybe was true, is what I'm saying.

[Clay Travis]

I want to make sure we focus on people that are intentionally cheering for murders to take place. And there are tens of thousands of them on social media who want their opinions to be. To be shared.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, you know, I think given the speed of the. Of the. That wasn't for the Charlie situation, and it was said right then. I. You know, I think you give them a little. I think they maybe deserve the benefit of the doubt. I don't really know TMZ very well. I just know it's kind of tabloid stuff, so I can't really speak to, like, I don't know, Harvey. I don't know what they're like in that, you know, if it had been some other organizations out there, I'd be like, well, it's definitely a lie.

[Clay Travis]

So, yeah. I also think, remember the standard here is very lenient. Don't celebrate a murder in public. You could still. We can't see into people's hearts. You could still be happy that it happened. All we're saying is you. And by the way, I'm not defending that. That's still a failure of your own humanity. It's a next level step to say, I want the entire public to be aware that I'm happy a dad got assassinated for his political beliefs.

[Buck Sexton]

That video that you and I have both seen, this is one of the worst things I've ever seen in my entire life. And I've seen a lot of horrible things because of the work that I used to do. That's one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life. I mean, I can't think of something that is more soul crushing and grotesque than the video of what happened to Charlie up there. So how could that not hit someone, you know, right in their soul? How could they not understand right away? Like, this is the most basic human thing. I'm appalled when I'm appalled by what is going on with these tens of thousands of people celebrating.

[Clay Travis]

When I talked with my sons about the Charlie Kirk assassination, and my two oldest boys were big fans of Charlie Kirk. They watched his videos, they're active on TikTok and YouTube, and they circulated and were influential there to such an extent that many of our young men in particular have seen these videos. One of my boys said, dad, do you think Charlie Kirk's kids are going to grow up and one day watch the video of their dad getting assassinated?

[Buck Sexton]

I hope not. I don't think there's any reason for them to ever see it. And I hope nobody ever, you know, crosses that line. They shouldn't see it.

[Clay Travis]

Question just hit me right in the solar plexus. I just. I couldn't because I was seeing it through their eyes and thinking about the dad that those kids will never know. And that video being out there is just. It's just brutal, frankly, to brutal to think about. When we come back, we'll talk with Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee about the National Guard being called out in Memphis, what she thinks should happen. And we just mentioned the University of Tennessee. A lot of different universities are dealing with this faculty member. University of Tennessee just fired a celebratory faculty member. We'll talk about that. And more. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG XBoom and for a limited time save 25% at LG.com with code fall25 bring the boom XBoom.

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