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Congressman Jim Jordan
Thank you. Good to be with you. Good to be with you guys. Have you hit a hundred? Have you hit 100?
Clay Travis
Yeah, it's been raining.
Buck Sexton
It's been raining a lot in Miami, so the courts have been wet, but it's happening. Congressman, I'm telling you this right now. You're reminding me that a deal is a deal, a bet is a bet. I'm going to get out there. Laura Travis, very excited for me to cross that 100 mile per hour mark. I'm only at 97, so it's really quite a leap to get there. But I'm going to get there and I promise you, Congressman, you will be among the first to know. It's going to happen this calendar year.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Now that's good to hear.
Buck Sexton
Thank you. Thank you.
Congressman Jim Jordan
The video you said, by the way, I was impressed. It was, I mean, I don't, I like watching. Course I'm not a tennis player, but I was impressed. Good form. You hit the ball. I mean, I didn't think you'd hit it that close to 100, but I was, it was pretty impressive.
Buck Sexton
So I think, I appreciate that. You know, I'm a middle aged guy and I can pretty much crank that serve at 97 miles an hour. I said clay, I told clay 100 initially. So it's not like I was way off. All these people were saying 60 in the replies. These people are nuts. They need to get a speed gun. All right, so, so since we've got that out there, thank you for the reminder though because that is going to happen. Um, I'm in Taiwan next week, so not a lot of tennis. Oh, I just kind of let that slip, didn't I? But not a lot of tennis going there, but I will be doing it when I get back here to Lovely Miami Beach. OK, YouTube. YouTube, YouTube. Let's take a look. Here's where I am on this and maybe you're talking to the, to the more cynical of the duo. As you may know, Congressman, as you, as you do know. OK, YouTube admits what we've known from the beginning. They censored and they've been censoring terribly so what does anything happen because of this? What's the action item? The information is important. I think people need to know it.
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Buck Sexton
But what happens?
Congressman Jim Jordan
Well, they put it in writing. So if in the, in the future they go back on their word, then there's, you know, you can't lie to Congress. There's 18 USC 1, 1001. So there's, there's going forward. I think there's that second. They are reinstating people who. They took their channel away from people. I mean, there was, there was big names like Dan Bongino. He gets his thing, you know, he gets his channel back. He gets, he gets to go back. I think more importantly, it's the thousands of people that they, that they cut off are going to come back to. So that's helpful. But you're right, you know, what, what happened to them in this. I mean, some of this is four or five years, you know, because it goes back to the COVID and people speaking out against all the false things that the government told us. And when you spoke out against it, you got censored or you got, or you lost your, you lost your, your channel on YouTube. So the. Yeah, that's tough. But, you know, I look at the glass half, half full going forward. People are being reinstated. They've admitted to it. They've. They've said they will never use fact checkers like some of these other platforms did, because we all know, you know, these fact checkers were lefties who, you know, labeled all kinds of things, misinformation, disinformation, and censored people. So I think all that's positive. But I get what you're saying. All we can do though, is, is. Is the best we can. And as we're, as we're moving forward.
Clay Travis
Jim, appreciate you coming on with us and I appreciate you calling out Buck, because I'd forgotten. And it is interesting how the rain has been coming down and disallowed him.
Buck Sexton
It's very rainy season, hurricanes excus very tough for the outdoor courts here. But you may, you may proceed. Clay.
Clay Travis
We were banned. Outkick was banned. You had me, to your credit, to come testify. I think back in February or March of 21, they made me wear a mask. I think it's like the only time I ever wore a mask even to testify at the hearing. That was at the absolute apex of we're going to restrict speech. So you've been fighting these battles for a long time. I think you deserve a lot of credit. So with that in mind, one of the things that Buck and I are super frustrated by is there basically are no consequences. And I'm curious what you think here. When YouTube, you know, banned us, when they gave us strikes, when they took us down, when they didn't allow our videos to circulate, it had very real financial consequences for a company that I owned at the time, Outkick, now Fox owns. But there, as Buck is pointing out, there are a lot of people out there that are just trying to make 2, 3, 4 grand a month off YouTube. And that is a huge part of their ability to fund what they're doing and saying, shouldn't there be some sort of consequences? Shouldn't google/YouTube have to make some sort of. I'm just tossing this out there. Huge payment to fund free speech so that they could actually be sued by lawyers actually committed to free speech. Not what the ACLU used to do, like what organization was, what way are there consequences? Because it seems pretty convenient for YouTube now to say, oh, yeah, we did this. We wouldn't allow this in a court of law, by and large, when you admit wrongdoing, usually there is a consequence for the wrongdoing. Here, there seems to be none.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Yeah, and we're working on. We have legislation, Harriet Hageman, a wonderful member from Wyoming, on our committee, and she's got a bill that says if the government, you can go after the government. If they're pressuring people to censor you, you know, that's, you know, classic violation of First Amendment. So we're looking at that, like individuals in the government, like you'd have a private right of action. So we're looking at that legislation. We passed it last Congress out of committee. We're looking to bring that back, but it is tough to go after. I mean, maybe you can get a class together and see if it works and say, you know, these people were all kicked off, they were all lost, you know, such and such revenue. This is their damages. You might be able to do that. But I think that's. Again, I think it's tough. And so what we're trying to focus on is, look, they've admitted to what they did. They admitted that it came from the Biden administration. They caved to it. They did this. Not going to happen. It's very similar, frankly, to the letter Mark Zuckerberg sent us last August where he said the same thing. The Biden administration pressures the censure. We did it. We're sorry, we're going to stop. And to his credit, they've actually changed policy. There they use the community notes approach to posts that are put on their site, on their platform, just like Elon does at X. So, again, I look at the positive, but I get it. You know, it happened to you directly. I was shadow banned. There was four of us members shadow banned back in 2018 by Twitter before Elon had purchased that. That company. So I know it's tough, but we got to move forward and look at the bright side.
Buck Sexton
I think, Congressman, something that, as I mentioned, I'm going to be traveling a lot next week and the weeks after, and Clay and I are actually doing a bunch of events, so flying is on my mind. And I've seen some reporting again, because I think the most frustrating thing is when it's crystal clear skies, everything's fine, everyone's there. We got there, we got through tsa, we did the whole. They did the whole thing, and then we're told there's no crew there. Sorry, don't have people to actually do the plane flying thing. You know, there's this let pilots, let experienced pilots fly bill that's been kicking around. Oh, yeah, I love that Ted Cruz is a sponsor. Marsha Blackburn, Senator sponsor, is a sponsor on the Senate side. Is this actually something you guys on the House side are looking at doing, too? Because this is one of those things where we could get some of the best pilots we have to keep flying, which means everybody's one in safe hands to the newer pilots, get better instruction and three, we have to wait less at the gate for a couple of hours at a time. Can you guys get this done? Where is this?
Congressman Jim Jordan
I'm all for it. I'm not on the Transportation Committee, but I'm all for it. I travel like, the last three weekends. I've been in Vegas and Sacramento one week, in Dallas the next weekend. Last weekend, I went from North Carolina to North Dakota. So, I mean, I'm just like you. We fly all the time, and you want the best pilots and you want it to be on time and not have to. I mean, the delays when it's backed up and you can't even use land and you can't even get to a gate because the gates are all full. I mean, they're just on and on and on. So it's frustrating. Yeah. And to the extent that, you know, allowing good pilots to stick around and continue to operate, I think that's great. In fact, I had a pilot talk to me at a fundraising. I forget what state we were in, but he talked to me about this very bill, and I said yeah, this makes sense. I hope we hope we do get.
Buck Sexton
Who on the Transportation Committee, you think? I mean, who could we have on to talk about?
Congressman Jim Jordan
Sam Graves? Have to have the chairman. Chairman Graves, good man. He chaired that committee for a number of years. Have him on and he can, he can fill you in.
Buck Sexton
Clay, I'm telling you, I know you're a big Southwest fan. We get this thing through and you're going to thank me because your delays are going to drop. And by the way, the older pilots are all the Clay and Buck listeners, too. They're the ones that are all about this show.
Clay Travis
My, I fly Southwest everywhere. I, you know, I'm not a bragger. I don't like to draw attention to myself. As everyone well knows. I have 2 million Southwest Airlines points. That's how far. And. And on my last Southwest Airlines flight from New York City to Nashville, I don't think I said this on the air. I. The pilots wanted to come out and shake hands. They're like, love the shows. Like, I was posing for photos with the flight attendants. So I've got a lot of awesome people at Southwest and I enjoy meeting everybody. There's Congressman, what is the latest? You were working hard and I don't know the absolute latest, but the SCORE Act, I know there are a lot of people out there that are big college football fans, college sports fans in general, were in the midst of the fall football season. What's the latest there? What can you tell us?
Congressman Jim Jordan
We're working on getting some Democrats to vote for it. We have some great supporters out there who want to look into some changes. We got Cody Campbell, great guy with big, big booster Texas Tech, talking about things that he thinks can happen particularly, I think, maybe better suited for the Senate, but we're looking at those as well. The bill is through committee. We do have some Democrat support for it. I think there's strong support for it. To use your lingo, play with people in the Southeast Conference part of the country and the Big Ten part of the country. So we'll see. But we do want to get this done, and we continue to work on it. We think it's a. A darn good start to help with. You know, when we started this process, I said, I think there are three things we want to focus on. We want, we want real competition, want some parity. You don't want just the same teams winning all the time. As much as I'd like to see the Badgers and the Buckeyes, you know, always at the top. You want, you want Some parity. You, you don't want to diminish opportunity for athletes. The USOC is very concerned about what happens to the so called non revenue sports, the Olympic sports and women's sports. And so we're trying to see how we can be helpful there. And part of the thing in the bill is we don't want any school to drop the sports that stayed division one. You got to have 16. We kept that in the, we put that in the bill. And then finally I do think we at some point got to remember it's supposed to be about getting an education. You got some of these athletes in football and basketball who transfer, you know, six times in five years and never get a degree. I don't think that's helpful to the system or to that, to that individual. So we're trying to have those overall objectives in mind when we put this legislation together, but we're not quite there yet.
Clay Travis
What should happen with Jimmy Kimmel? Yeah, we're going to talk about this, I think at some point during the course of the show. But you know, with the YouTube, we started off the show by saying, and I think it's really important, Jimmy Kimmel is a small pin prick of the importance of what Google and YouTube were doing. Any comedian would be relative to the policies those companies put in place. And nexstar and Sinclair are still not caring.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Meaning.
Clay Travis
I'm not sure where your affiliate station is, Jim, but I know here in Nashville, I couldn't watch last night if I wanted to. They have news on. I'm a nexstar affiliate here in the ABC Nashville market. What in your mind is the right solution here? If you were the magic wand guy and you got to analyze this.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Well, I looked at this the way you've always described it, Clay. I looked at this as Republicans buy sneakers too. Republicans watch late night TV too. And I think nexstar and Sinclair just said, you know, we just don't think it's appropriate. You know, seems to me if you're a late night talk show host, you should, you should not do two things. You shouldn't tick off half the potential audience and you should be funny. And it seemed like Jimmy Kimmel was failing on both of those, those two things. So I think, I think nextarn and nexstar and Sinclair said we'd just like something different, frankly. So I think this is a business decision largely, you know, it couldn't just be the government censoring because ABC or Disney putting back on. So yeah, I did. I think I looked at it all throughout this whole thing. And I understand what, what Commissioner Carr said, but I looked at it largely as this was a business deal. Nextar came forward and said, no, we want, we want something different. And you can't blame him for that because I think, I think they're losing money on the show. ABC is. I never thought he was really that funny. It was all just, we know was all just attacking Trump all the time and half the country doesn't particularly care for that. So that's how I viewed it versus government doing what they did in all these areas where we have emails from the Biden administration saying take down this tweet ASAP. And it was a tweet from RFK Jr. When he was running for president against Joe Biden, for goodness sake. So that's as bad as it gets. It said the Biden administration set up the disinformation Governance Board. Most Orwellian thing in history.
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Bunch of bureaucrats. Tell you what, you can say I.
Clay Travis
Haven'T forgotten her name.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Totally. Totally. So, so that's a, that's a completely different animal than nexstar saying we don't think our audience really likes this show. We just assume be something else. That's a business call my mind.
Buck Sexton
Code. Totally agree. Congressman Jim Jordan will have you back and there will be video of that hundred mile an hour surfing. It will happen.
Congressman Jim Jordan
I will not be denied.
Buck Sexton
Thank you, sir. Thank you.
Congressman Jim Jordan
All right, take care, guys.
Buck Sexton
Speaking of, speaking of serving up 100 miles an hour, I'm glad we were reminded of this important, this important milestone that middle aged buck is going to hit one way, one way or another.
Clay Travis
And I like that you're now calling yourself middle aged. This happened out of nowhere. You used to be like, oh, I'm a youthful guy and now like middle aged. Like, I want you to be able to get out of bed in the morning.
Buck Sexton
I'm gonna, I'm let you a little secret. Now this probably isn't unique to tennis, but I think it's more common in tennis. Everyone who plays tennis, I don't you all know those, those who play on a regular basis, you know, play some USTA matches or play the club championship or the, you know, local ladder in their neighborhood or whatever. They're always like, oh, I haven't played in so long. Oh, my shoulder has been really awful lately. Every time you talk to somebody you're about to play tennis with, it's, oh, my Achilles has been so tight. I, I haven't had surgery on it yet, but I'm really You know, blah, blah, blah, it's all a big psych out game. So yeah, of course I'm playing up the middle age thing now, Clay technically true, so I'm milking it for all that it's worth. But middle aged Buck is going to get that a hundred mile an hour serve. Somehow I'll find three more mph on my serve than the last time out there. I did get a better system, but you know what part of my system is chalk, friends, Because I cannot let this go. I will not be denied. And chalk is like in the corner there urging me on, giving me that energy, drive and focus. I don't want to, I don't want to end up like one of these Biden Kamala voters who's like, I couldn't.
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Hit the serve a hundred miles an.
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I'm not bad for bowling, honestly. Kind of not a sport that you want to brag about being good at, but I'm pretty solid.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Let's get to some of your talk facts. A lot of reaction weighing in. I don't know this is true. We get a lot of historical discussion on the show. TJ in Denver. We appreciate everybody listening out there at Freedom 93.7 KDFD on writing messages on ammunition AA Clay Buck writing messages on.
Buck Sexton
Ammunition started World War II with bombers, missiles, everything else. It's kind of interesting that it's been picked up at a local level. We always send messages to those that we bombed. So it's a natural extension to a really sick mind.
Clay Travis
Yeah, I've seen those old school photos. Buck of but those are typically like bombs, right? Not so much.
Buck Sexton
It's morale for troops fighting the enemy. Yeah, but I mean, you ask me, you know, you ask me like, is this a thing that people. No, this is not a thing that people. You make. You might do it if you're fighting the Nazi war machine or if you're a lunatic terrorist. But like, no, when I go to the range, people aren't sitting there etching into. It's really the casing. Right? The casing. There's the cartridge, the whole thing. The bullet is the part that actually, you know, zooms through the air and then the casing is the part of it that holds the powder, the charge. No, no one's writing on their casings. Like that's not a thing.
Clay Travis
I do think it's interesting historical analogy there. Some of these people think they're warriors fighting Nazis. Well, this is what I mean.
Buck Sexton
I mean that's when they were riding on the bombs, when they were fighting Nazis.
Clay Travis
That's right. They in their mind see themselves as heroic. BB Listener Podcast listener. Kurt from Western Kentucky, what you got for us?
Congressman Jim Jordan
Hey, guys. Kurt from Western Kentucky, I'm loving this section of your show today. Spot on.
Clay Travis
Well, thank you.
Buck Sexton
Kurt's a man of exceptional taste and wisdom and definitely sounds like he's a Kentuckian, which is also fantastic. Love it. So we'll come back here in a second. I'll talk Gavin Newsom with all of you. You know, that's going to be fun. That's going to be good times. And your chief comologist has some thoughts for you after staying up late last night reading her.
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Oh, I can't believe that admission.
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Clay Travis
How late did you stay up with your friend Kamala's book?
Buck Sexton
I spent a solid hour before I went to bed just reading. I was very excited it had automatically downloaded to my Kindle because I was a pre purchaser. So I got, I got to pump those numbers.
Clay Travis
So what, what is your, what does your wife think when she comes to get in bed and you are just curled up comfortably reading Kamala Harris's book? Does she make fun of you at all? What is her take on this?
Buck Sexton
I could come up with something clever to say here, but the truth is the baby's been waking up about every hour all night long. So she's just thinking, how are we going to get through the night?
Clay Travis
So you are now because for a while there you had angel baby that was sleeping perfectly on.
Buck Sexton
So I'm just going to tell you guys this because, yeah, okay, maybe I need to, you know, learn a little humility on this one. As a new parent, a lot of people are like, oh, are you okay in the first three, four months? And I was like, okay, the baby is adorable and sleeps seven, eight hours a night, every night. I was just like, we didn't do anything. A baby just sleeps. And I told my sister this, you Know, I've got a little nephew. And she had a very tough sleep schedule kind of baby situation. And she couldn't believe it. She's like, what do you mean your baby sleeps seven? I said, look, he just. I don't know what to tell you. The baby just. I've had no. How many times have I showed up Clay, and said, you all not getting any sleep? And I'm like, no, it's been fine. That has changed. And the last month it has been. It has been. And now Kerry's taking the brunt of it. But, you know, I try to help out and I'm also in the, in the room when she's getting up to go tend to the baby. I understand what you parents are talking about when you're like, are you okay? Yeah. Now I need people to ask if I'm okay. Because the sleep situation, I mean, Carrie's a trooper put pushing through all this every hour. I don't know, just every hour a little guy's waking up. I mean, he's. I think it's called a sleep regression. They say the five month or six month sleep regression.
Clay Travis
I've heard it's very common. Our first was. I get. Laura was an unbelievable trooper with our oldest. It was. It was brutal how bad he was at sleeping.
Buck Sexton
But it was funny to me because for a few months, little baby speed was just always smiling and so happy and just sleeping and so smiley. And people were like, how are you guys doing? And I was like, this is amazing. And I have 10 more of these. Like, this is now. I'm like, this parenting is tough. This could be. This could be a little bit of a challenge sometimes. So I've learned. I've learned the. The curve has bent in the other direction right now for the effort and the challenges here. Okay, now to. So, yes, I was reading Kamala. Look, reading this thing, I want to get into a more fulsome discussion of it when we're more focused on. On where Kamal is and all this. I would just say it. It is very boring. And it is very clear that she. I don't even know if she spent any time at all even telling the ghostwriters what to write. This thing is. Is a book by committee. It's got. Got a couple of people, probably three or four writers who are working on it or something. Kamala didn't write a word of it. Now, I know that's not unusual, but it just comes across as completely. Just like. It's just so inauthentic. It's.
Clay Travis
I Figured that it would read like it was a. Like a McKinsey consulting platform where eight different people have all weighed in, and it's just bland and inauthentic.
Buck Sexton
Well, and she. And she knew. I mean, I'll tell. So this is the phase of the book that I'm in. The phase of the book is Kamala discussing the lead up to her becoming the nominee. And I'm only a few chapters in. I didn't read that much last night. And also the. The disastrous debate. And of course, she's like, I. I was worried about him going into this debate. And. And by the way, she affirms what I had said all along, because people were saying that they pushed him to debate so they could push him out. That's absolutely. That made no sense. That's absolutely not true. His advisors thought. And this is from Kamala, now, I understand this is in a book. So it's all, you know, this is. In intelligence circles, you would say this is meant to influence as well as inform. Right. This is not just someone giving you information. They're trying to create a narrative. I get that. But this is Kamala Harris saying, oh, the advisers thought that they could just get through this one night and then it would all be fine. And she claims in the book that. That she was of the mind that Joe should just not debate at all. Because basically all of the strategizing. Clay, if I may say so, that I was doing from a Democrat mindset, he shouldn't debate. It's a disaster. Trump didn't debate. He should just. She says, whether you believe it or not, she agreed with that and that a few of Biden's inner circle were convinced that he would be able to not be okay for months, but for one night, he could pull it off.
Clay Travis
And they said what they said in Original Sin.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, they really. So that. Just to be clear, everybody that really was. They thought they could, you know, hoodwink everybody. They thought they could bamboozle us with one more time, and that's all they had to do. So it was a giant roll of the dice, and it came up snake eyes.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Right.
Buck Sexton
Mr. Gambling Man. That's bad.
Clay Travis
That is correct.
Buck Sexton
You don't want the snake eyes. Thank you. So that's one part of it that I thought was interesting so far. I'll give you more common commonalogist analysis as I get further and deeper into the book. I also mentioned that I am going to be. Clay is solo on the radio next week, and I was going to wait until Thursday to talk about this. But I can talk a little bit. Today I am going to, on a fact finding mission to Taiwan. I am scheduled to meet with some of the most senior people in the Taiwanese government. I want to speak to them, Clay, about national security with China and how that's looking, how the Trump administration is doing vis a vis not just Taiwanese, but regional relations. How do the Taiwanese feel about allies like Japan in this moment and where, you know, how do they feel about the. By the way, this is the most important national security flashpoint and the most important economic choke point in the world right now. Taiwan makes 90% of the top end chips, silicon, the silicon wafers that are needed to make an integrated circuit. Essentially they make 90% of the top end ones and 60% of overall. Clay, none of the smart tech that we have anywhere can function without Taiwanese production. Nowhere else in the world can they make this stuff. And China is saying they're going to take this island in the next two years. So I talked to Clay about this. I said, clay, I just, you know, I'm going on my own time, but it's also on behalf of the show because I'm going to be interviewing people and I'm going to be. And Clay said, go for it. Originally we were going to go together, but we realized the logistics of that were going to be a little, a little more challenging. But so I'll be out next week, but I'll be in Taiwan trying to find out as much as I can about what I think in the next two years will be the most important geopolitical challenge in the world. I mean, Ukraine is already a hot war and we got to figure out how to wind that thing down. But I think that's just going to grind on for another few years. I don't think it's going to change very much. This is a situation, Clay, with China you've talked about. Remember when they, when they hit Iran, Iran with the reactors, and also when the Ukraine war started, you're like, maybe China's going to go for it. China goes for Taiwan in any meaningful way. We have a. We wake up in a different world, truly, all of us, all of you, whether you care about foreign policy or not, the markets will, the markets will be absolutely rocked. You'll see trillions of dollars of wealth evaporate. I mean, it's, it's scary stuff. So I want to know what's going. Look, hopefully none of that happens. They continue a sort of status quo and everything is great. But I think this is, you know, part of what we do on the show is try to get ahead of where things are going. I'm telling you, this is going to be a big issue and it's going to be a big issue that the Trump administration has to figure out. We're not just going to be able to backburner this.
Clay Travis
So that's a big trip. That's a long airplane flight. So you are headed over there all of next week and then you'll be back. Maybe you'll send some stuff in from Taiwan. But that I, I'm, I'm hoping to.
Buck Sexton
Get some high level interviews. You know, it's not, it's not all set in stone because they've got some very important stuff going on over there. But I am going, you know, and we're going to air some, some of it on the show assuming that the people that I'm trying to sit down with will sit down with me. But we're just going to learn as much as we can over there. And that's the, that's the plan. So I'm really looking forward to.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Go ahead.
Clay Travis
No, I was going to say do you want to play Gavin Newsom here? Because we started off with. You were going to play.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, sorry, I digress. But I realized I let the Taiwan thing rip when I was talking to Jim Jordan. It's kind of like when some of you found out that I was having a real Carrie but we were having a baby. Because the top of the show, it just, it bled into the audio and I was like, well, you know, things.
Clay Travis
That of all the things that could have leaked, the fact that you were having a baby was the thing that leaked off.
Buck Sexton
It was very nice. Honestly, it was very touching because my inbox and mentions and everything was just full of wonderful listeners who were saying the sweetest things about the fact that we were expecting a little baby boy. But it was funny because I was going to do like a real announcement about it and I just kind of let it fly in an off moment. Break the clay. And it went on the air. Okay, Gavin Newsom back to, back to the meat and potatoes here of, of the news cycle. Gavin Newsom here. He is saying the kind of stuff that really ticks me off. But this is very normal for him that we're not even going to have, this is 19, not going to have an election in 28.
Gavin Newsom
They're struggling to communicate. We're struggling to win back now the majority in the House of Representatives. And that's a big part of what I'm not just today in terms of the work out here, raising money, but also raising awareness around how Donald Trump is trying to rig the midterm elections and how I fear that we will not have an election in 2028. I really mean that in the core of my soul. Unless we wake up to the code red, what's happening in this country and we wake up soberly to how serious this moment is.
Buck Sexton
Clay, see, what is that? What is he really doing here? Saying that he in his soul believes we're not even going to have an election in 2028? Like, what's the play as you see it?
Clay Travis
First of all, I went on Twitter and I reiterated what I said the last time he said this. I will put $10 million up against Gavin. He can get it from his donors that we will have an election in 2028. I don't even. I think the Democrat base eats this up. And I think this is already starting the race in 2028. I think that's the reality. He can't possibly believe this. If you believe it, why are you already effectively running for president? What does he think that's going to happen, that Trump's going to announce win, first of all, because the presidential race is going to start in January of 27 in earnest, and by January of 28 will have the primaries actually starting. So when exactly would Trump cancel the 2028 election? I think Trump's going to eat up the 2028 election because he's going to see it as some form of an apprentice. It's a reality television show made for him to be the kingmaker on the Republican side of the equation and probably to weigh in a lot on the Democrat side of the equation, too. I just, I look at this and I think that it must be that the base of the Democrat Party is so crazy that telling them that Trump is going to cancel elections in some way paradoxically makes Gavin Newsom a bigger favorite in 2028. So that's the motivation, I think what's going on here? He clearly does not believe it. And this is part and parcel, unfortunately, of why we're getting all these left wing political attacks. Because enough of the base of the Democrat Party believes this that they're willing to kill Charlie Kirk and that they're willing to try to kill President Trump and that they are willing to frankly burn down Josh Shapiro's governor's mansion. By the way, that was left wing political violence, too, even addressed against Democrats. There is a lot of crazy. There are a lot of crazy people out there. And the Democrat base is Overwhelmingly made up of a lot of crazy people. And they want to hear this. Fear porn is. I think it titillates them. I think it drives them. And Gavin Newsom is playing on it even though he knows it's untrue, which is, I think, one of the most dishonest things a politician can do. And it's one thing if you actually have a strong opinion that might be controversial, we might disagree with. I think Bernie Sanders has a lot of opinions that he truly believes that are wrong. And I disagree with him, but I at least respect his right to make the argument. Gavin Newsom doesn't believe this. He's lying. He just knows it's politically advantageous to say it and he's trying to take advantage of it. And that's the reality. And it's hard to respect anybody adopting that perspective.
Buck Sexton
This is the thing. Some of these lunatic Democrats that you'll hear, I think they actually believe the lunatic stuff that they say. I don't think Gavin Newsom believes one iota a scintilla of this nonsense. That's right. He's just playing them for fools.
Clay Travis
And there's $10 million. Take me up on it, Gavin. I feel really good about me winning the 10 million. I'll donate it to people out there so they can sue First Amendment cases. He's not going to respond because he's a liar and he knows that this is a lie. When your identity stolen online, there's not a lot you can do. Sure, you can call your local police department, file a report, but that's not going to solve the problem. Cyber hackers know this move fast. Once they steal your personal info, they start racking up charges on your credit card or open accounts in your name. For all these reasons, you want LifeLock. LifeLock monitors millions of data points online, looking for evidence that some scammer has your info and is using it illegally. If you do become a victim of identity theft, the dedicated US based lifelock restoration specialist will fix it, guaranteed, or your money back. It's important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives. And a LifeLock membership protects your online info better than all the others. Join now. Say 40% off your first year with promo code Clay. It's not easy to deal with the fallout from identity theft, but it is easy to protect yourself with LifeLock. Go online to LifeLock.com use promo code CLAY for 40% off. You can also call 1-800-lifelock terms apply. News and politics. But also a little comic relief. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio Apple or wherever you get your podcast.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the program. White House has just posted a video and it's a little bit hard to describe how funny it is on the radio because there is a punchline that comes at the end that I'm going to spoil a bit for all of you. But they have a West Wing outdoor patio walkway, that white wall there that they have covered with portraits or photographs of all the past presidents. And Margot Martin, who is one of the President's top assistants, works there in the Oval Office with him. Just posted a video of her walking along showing it and you can see all the past presidents and it gets to the first Trump portrait and then it goes to where Joe Biden's portrait should be. And they have instead of a portrait of Joe Biden, they have just a picture of the auto pin, which is really, really funny and also going to drive people absolutely bonkers. I don't know who came up with this idea in the West Wing. The comedic sensibilities, and we have talked about this a lot of Trump are probably his most underrated characteristic because this is a very, very funny idea. It's the kind of idea that you're sitting around and somebody comes up with when you're having, you know, beers after a long workday. And people would laugh about it. Never do it. Trump's like, great idea. Do it. And so as a result, Joe Biden is officially commemorated on the White House walkway now with just an auto pin signing his name. Everybody else has got a portrait. They have a auto pin of Joe Biden, which is very, very funny.
Buck Sexton
One thing Democrats have never even been able to pretend they could match in politics is have anybody at the Trump level of politics who is as funny as he is.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
Which Democrats like to think of themselves as the entertainers. And we've got all of Hollywood and everything else. Trump is not just a political phenomenon and a cultural phenomenon. He is by far the funniest politician in our lifetime, honestly. I mean, Reagan had some great lines, but he wasn't like a comedian.
Clay Travis
Which is why as soon as the midterms are over, they're going to pivot. I'm telling you, get ready for it as you're going to be on whiplash. They're going to pivot from Trump's Hitler to Republicans are never going to be able to replace Trump. In fact, that will be their entire argument of much of 2027. Now when they get into 2028, they'll probably go back to insert whomever the nominee is is Hitler. He's even worse than Trump. You know, that'll be the pivot when they actually get to the general election because they have nothing else to argue, but they're going to start arguing soon and recognizing the unique political talents of Trump. We come back. We've got Senator Rick Scott joining us at the bottom of the final hour, but we'll dive into some of the Jimmy Kimmel talk. What do we think there? And also continue to update you on all the news, the ice shooting and more.
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Date: September 27, 2025
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Summary of Content Portion (02:35–49:43)
This week’s second hour features Clay Travis and Buck Sexton engaging with Congressman Jim Jordan on censorship, free speech, and legislative responses to “Big Tech” platforms. The conversation also turns to current travel and airline industry woes, updates on college sports legislation, media business decisions, and the larger political landscape, including Buck’s upcoming fact-finding trip to Taiwan to assess regional security and global tech dependencies. The hosts round out the episode with discussions on the Democratic Party’s rhetoric, President Trump’s unique brand of humor, and listener interactions.
Discussion of YouTube’s and Facebook’s admissions regarding past censorship at government behest, particularly during COVID-19.
Legislative hurdles
Jim Jordan on YouTube Censorship Admission (04:59):
Clay Travis on Free Speech Consequences (06:20):
Buck Sexton on Pilot Shortages (09:16):
Congressman Jim Jordan on College Sports Bill (12:10):
Buck on Taiwan’s Strategic Importance (33:00):
Gavin Newsom Fearmongering (35:03):
Clay Travis Debunks Newsom (35:48):
On Trump’s Comedic Genius (45:31):
This episode is a blend of serious current events analysis, first-hand updates on pressing global concerns (with Buck’s Taiwan trip), and the trademark humor and conversational style that Clay and Buck bring to political talk radio. It’s packed with the hosts’ perspectives on policy battles, media ecosystems, national security, and the quirks of everyday life—anchored by meaningful interviews and lively audience engagement.