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Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H2 - Illegal Immigration Realities
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It's about creating a life where you thrive and help others do the same. Listen to the Wealth Break podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome back in everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. And we want to get to some calls and some talk backs and some other great things that are going on all across this land of ours with the news cycle and just everything happening out there. One thing, Clay, that I want to spend some time on in this hour is the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement situation. No surprise, I am sure, to any of you, but Alligator Alcatraz, as it has been named, not too far from where I am. I think it would probably be, I don't know, maybe a two and a half hour drive from here based, based.
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Clay Travis
On our drive into the Everglades. It is a substantial effort and hard to get to.
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Travis Holloway
We had a very long, arduous drive out to the range, in fact, the Everglades. But it was, it was a tough one. But yes, Alligator Alcatraz, not too far from where I currently am getting a lot of, a lot of news coverage from Democrats. Were looking to find that thing. If you remember, Clay, under the first Trump administration, it was kids in cages. Remember that? That was the thing. And that was with AOC dressed all in white, crying at the fence. We remember this. And then the Trump administration was like, all right, fine, we're going to do this, change the policy on the family separation issue. And the left saw, oh my gosh, we can emotionally charge this and get outcomes that we want. So that was a thing that was going on. But they haven't found that this time around. And as we see, they are demonizing Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officers and on the side of the people that would like to dox them and threaten them and threaten their families, I mean, elected Democrats, because they want to make sure that everybody can know who these guys are. They're not so concerned with like any other aspect of law enforcement, it seems just this. They want to make sure. Oh, yes. That we know what they're not. If they've done misconduct. No, we just need to know who they are all the time. Very Strange. Over on MSNBC, this is what they're talking about, Clay. This is cut 16. Rachel Maddow still does stuff over there.
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Clay Travis
One day a week. One day a week. One days only. Yes.
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Travis Holloway
Wow. That's such a nice sinecure she has over that's such a nice situation. It's like being a tenured professor and making $30 million a year to show up and teach your once a week class, a class that nobody should be paying attention to, a class that nobody should want to see, but nonetheless, they're paying her that. Here she is figuring out, she says, what to call these Trump holding facilities for illegals. Place 16 in terms of this facility, you used the term internment camp, and I saw your colleague Debbie Wasserman Schultz used that same phrase. Obviously, that's very evocative language with, in this country that is difficult for a lot of people. Talk about why you think that term is appropriate. I've been struggling with that myself, just as a broadcaster, in terms of how to talk about these things. I mean, in technical terms, if, if you've got a facility that's holding people indefinitely and there's no legal process to get in there, and there's no legal process to get out, that is traditionally called a concentration camp or an internment camp. An internment camp or a concentration camp. Clay, do you think that's going to fly?
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Clay Travis
No. And look, I think the challenge they have is they're on the wrong side of this issue. And this is why I believe, in the marketplace of ideas. Because when Trump came down the escalator in 2015 and started arguing for many of the things he's doing now, most Americans disagreed with him. And partly that's a function of how that was, how his desires and his goals were covered by the media. I don't think there's any way to sugarcoat that. But over time, I believe Trump has convinced the vast majority of Americans that we can't have 20 million plus illegals. And the reason I use 20 million as the number is because that's the number Tom Holman told me a few months ago he believes are illegally in the country. Now, I would imagine that number is beginning to decline slowly. But what you're seeing is this is the root cause of a huge amount of the problems that we have in this country, whether it's, and I know a lot of you have experienced this, the number of illegal immigrant children that are being educated in American schools, whether it is the number of illegal immigrant criminals who are committing violent acts in this country, whether it is the number of illegal immigrants who are taking jobs that otherwise Americans would not take. You know what I've started to see vanish, Buck, is the argument of, oh, these are jobs that Americans won't do. That is such an arrogant argument to me because the entire basis of commerce Is if you pay people enough to do a job, eventually they will do it. And what was it? The, the meatpacking facility that got raided in Nebraska, if I'm not mistaken. They had to go back and rehire and they were flooded with applicants who were interested in those jobs. And so I just look at it as, yes, it may be sometimes easier, and certainly it's cheaper to go with illegal immigrants as workers, but if you eliminate that opportunity and force business to have to pay American citizens to do the jobs, costs don't go up that much. And the end result is actually much more of a positive in this country. By the way, number one way I know in New York City, Mom, Donnie's game plan here to he ran to a large extent on things cost too much. In particular, rent. What would rent be in New York City if we eliminated a million some odd illegals from the rental markets? Basic economics would suggest that the cost of living for rent would go down for all American citizens. In New York City, for instance, I'll.
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Travis Holloway
Tell you this, the hotels, this is a perfect microcosm to macrocosm example of this hotels in New York City in the era of putting all these migrants, these illegals in the New York City hotels, the highest prices you've ever seen in the history of New York.
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Clay Travis
Yes. It's crazy what it costs to stay in a New York City hotel right now.
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Travis Holloway
Are you, I mean, some of you are going to, you're going to, you know, choke on your Crockett coffee when I tell you this. But you can spend $500 a night during the week off season in a New York City hotel that's, you know, nice. But I mean, it's not a lot of places. I can get, I can get, you know, beachfront up in Jacksonville, like a, like a gorgeous resort for four or five hundred bucks a night in New York, you can stay in like a midtown Marriott, you know, like kind of a standard, you know, businessy kind of hotel. And if you want something nice, oh, boy.
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Clay Travis
Christmas season by our state, our station. This is like December 14th or whatever it was. I stayed in a hotel room where, I'm not kidding, I could touch the walls from the bed that I was in, both sides, right? I mean, they barely could fit a bed in this room. I believe producer Ali was the cheapest room that they could find in the vicinity of our hotel. Wasn't that room like $800, Ali? $800 a night? One night for a room that I could, when I laid on the bed, I could touch the wall on both sides. And it's because one there is the immigrant angle, the other angle, which almost no one talks about, they killed Airbnb in New York City.
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Travis Holloway
Yes.
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Clay Travis
Right. So they had a ton of people out there who were helping to pay their rents by renting out their places. And by the way, I actually am kind of legal.
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Travis Holloway
Oh, really? I'm, I'm pretty supportive of the, of the Airbnb restrictions in New York City, just.
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Clay Travis
Oh, you are?
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Travis Holloway
I am, yeah. Because it's.
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Clay Travis
Oh, you don't want to live next door to somebody who's renting their place out all the time. Yeah, I get that.
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Travis Holloway
People, it's, and the people move into these buildings and they're, you know, there are rules, there are contracts, they agree to things. And one of the things in a lot of these buildings. And it's true in a lot of cities, right? It's true. Like your community association, you agree to certain rules and the rules are for the benefit of everybody. If someone is using their, their, you know, one bedroom apartment as like an sro, a single room occupancy hotel, which used to have a very bad rap from the days of New York City when they were like drug dens and stuff like that, that causes problems to the rest of the, of the tenants on the floor. I know, I have a friend, I know somebody who, in New York, his building went back and found all of the postings for Airbnb and everything and sued him for all of it and won. So they're, they take this stuff very seriously.
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Clay Travis
I, I am, I, I, I do think it's an interim. I sound like Gavin Newsome now. I do think it's a real debate that should be had because I totally understand the idea and evidently it's become a huge issue in many different primary tourist locations around the country. You, no one wants to live full time next to a house that is being rented out on Airbnb.
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Travis Holloway
In the case, in the case of New York, I'm really actually just pro. A building or a community can say you can't do this and can drop the hammer if you do it. I actually, I think in the city of New York, they've just decided that unless you can't 30 day, unless it's a 30 day rental, it's a regulation that I'm a little more aligned, I think, with, with how you see it too. But I absolutely believe if you move into a building and you say, and you sign things that say that this is your primary home and you're not renting it out. You can't rent it out because it's, you know, you've agreed to a contract on entry into that community. Look, we just. Clay. Well, I'm now a homeowner for the first time, but I'm. Some of you going to laugh. The stuff you got to dig. Some of you have lawns. I don't even know what that's like. The homeowners association, they, they lay down the law sometimes on little things. You'd be surprised.
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Clay Travis
It is, yes. That at the homeowners associations in America, there's many people out there listening right now that are ready to pull their hair out over whatever disputes are going on there. I do think, though, whatever you think about the Airbnb regulations in New York City and the fact that illegals have filled up a lot of the hotel.
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Travis Holloway
Rooms, it's about 20%. So it's, you can just take a, just a rough figure would be hotels are all about 20% more expensive. They would otherwise be.
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Clay Travis
I think it gives you a real good examination of basic market economics. Right. If you eliminated illegal immigrants from the housing market in New York City and only people who were legally in the United States, or yes, look on temporary visas, like all those things, right. The cost for the average property, I believe, in New York City would plummet tremendously. And I think it's true in many different parts of America where housing costs have become prohibitive. And it doesn't take a big city for that reality to be. I mean, it's basic economics. I think JD Vance said this in the debate and the host was like, well, what do you base that on? There's 20 million illegals here. If we took the 20 million illegals out, that is 20 million new properties, residences, apartments, places to live that would be in the marketplace, which wouldn't have as much demand, which would lower the overall cost, I would think, substantially across the board.
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Travis Holloway
One of the, it was one of the more brilliant policies. And look, Governor Abbott of Texas does not, I think, get as much credit as he should for this or people don't think about him enough in this regard. Taking illegals and saying, you know what, let's send you right to a sanctuary jurisdiction. They, they say they want you. We're just helping out because in the context of New York, it's a big enough city that had enough of a concentration of these illegals that you could really see the economic impact. You could really see when they were telling, you know, middle class neighborhoods of Queens, we're shutting down your local High school, you know, soccer fields or whatever so we can house these illegals. You can really see that 30% of emergency room visits were from these migrants who were getting just all of their health care in emergency rooms. Like, you can see this reality and realize, hold on a second. If that's from 100,000 people in New York City or 150,000, whatever the number ended up being, what does 20 million do nationwide? Ah. And you know, I got it. Look, there's a congresswoman down here, Salazar, I saw her. And you know, she represents a heavily Latino South Florida constituency. And I love my South Florida Venezuelan and Cuban Americans, they're fantastic people. But illegal's gotta go. And she's playing this whole game of, oh, but we need dignity for people. Not amnesty, but dignity. No, she means amnesty, actually. She should just. She should just say what she. I think she's actually my congresswoman. She should just say, I want amnesty for people who have been here for more than five years who are illegal. Like, let's have a conversation like adults. I would disagree with that, obviously. But don't give me this thing of I'm fighting for dignity for people. What does that mean? That's like the Gavin Newsom thing. Clay, Clay, hold on a second. Clay, I hear exactly the perspective you're bringing to this critical dis. It's like, what does that mean? It means nothing.
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Clay Travis
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Travis Holloway
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Travis Holloway
Do you feel that they're taking American jobs?
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Clay Travis
Not when not in Tulare county now when on in Ventura County. I don't know many people that want a job out there in those packing facilities.
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Travis Holloway
That's such a lie because a Majority of the people who do those jobs are not illegals. Think about it. A majority of the people in these industries aren't illegal. So guess what? Plenty of people. Okay, we'll come back to this. That's an important thing. All right. Pure Talk. When you switch your cell phone service from AT&T, Verizon or T Mobile to Pure Talk, you're immediately saving hundreds of dollars a year without sacrificing cell phone quality. I switched from one of those companies to Pure Talk myself several years ago. I can tell you firsthand the service is top quality. You're talking $25 a month for unlimited talk, text, plenty of data. It's a great price point. All these years later, they haven't raised their rates either. Little known secret in the cell phone industry is that PureTalk uses the same 5G network on the same 5G towers as one of those three companies. So you get the same quality of service at a fraction of the price. And with PureTalk, you can keep your phone and your number from your cell phone. Dial pound 250, say Clay and Buck. You'll save an additional 50% off your first month. You can switch over to Pure Talk in about 10 minutes. I did it super easy. Dial £250 from your phone, say the keywords Clay and Buck to switch to Pure Talk Wireless by Americans for Americans. Welcome back to Clay and Buck. So I think this is a very important point because you're going to hear this a lot from Democrats as they're trying to push back on really the, the signature achievement, or the signature, I should say mission and hopefully achievement of the Trump administration is the border security and immigration enforcement that we were all promised and that the Trump administration is certainly engaged in on a broad spectrum right now. That is absolutely critical. It is essential Biden let 10 million people scam our system into the country, including people with extensive criminal history, serious criminal histories. It's, it's really unthinkable. I mean, it happened. So I guess we have to think about it. But it's, it's just, it is a, it is a mind blowing thing when you go back to how we had, effectively, the border was totally, totally closed during COVID So they were starting at a place where they had tools, remember? Then there was the whole, oh, we can still use the authority to. And they just decided, just kick that thing wide open. All because of Biden, all because of Democrats. They're trying to gain ground in this argument right now. And one of the things that I think is so important and Clay Mentioned this before. Gavin Newsom, perfect example of this. This is one of the great immigration, illegal immigration lies, and even immigration in general, because, like, the H1B visa thing is a scam. I was a little worried when I saw Elon over. I was in Spain, so I wasn't really, you know, we were on a baby moon. I wasn't really engaging in Twitter. I was so tempted, Clay. But I learned my lesson. I learned my lesson in Asheville. If you're on vacation, don't let that one tweet fly. All of a sudden you could kick the, you know, the hornet's nest. And now you're dealing with something on vacation. So when I'm on vacation and I don't tweet, but I saw on the H1B thing, and also, Vivek Ramaswamy totally stepped on that bear trap in a big way. I mean, that was a disaster for both the perception of. Now Elon moderated his position on that. I don't even know what happened with the vacant. He's running for governor or something in Ohio. But there was this. Oh, immigrants are also doing jobs Americans can't do. That's also a lie. The H1B and Super Special person visa. I forget Laura actually referenced it for Superman in her analysis of that. I forget what it is. The E179 or I forget what it is, but those are lies, too. Overwhelmingly, those are people that are doing jobs for below the wages. Anyway. We'll get. I don't want to get too deep into that. You want to have the H1B debate. That's also something that we should do. And I know the farm worker issue for Trump, Clay, has gotten a lot of attention because, okay, if it's really going to be such a problem to pay Americans wages to do that, which I'm not even convinced automation is the way we go forward. If we. If we can AI, you know, cars, and if we can AI the legal profession and all these other things we're told is imminent, we can AI farm work. And we don't have to be paying for the welfare benefits for decades of people who are doing seasonal farm work. Okay, the big lie, though, Clay, One of the big lies here is they're doing the jobs Americans won't do. And they name things. They're like, we can't have people do construction. We can't have people cleaning hotel rooms or whatever it may be. The majority of the people doing those jobs are Americans.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Travis Holloway
So how is it that when you only. Let's say, I Mean, here, let me. Clay, I'm going to look this up real fast. What the number is of people who do construction are illegals. And but you know, this, this is where we have to really make a stand because this is a lie, this notion that we can't have the people to do these jobs and we have to import them. No, you just have to actually pay the wages. And the states that have crazy laws that make things too expensive, well, they need to figure that, figure that out. If the regulations are what's making it impossible to build new housing, figure out how to have less regulation.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I think one of the big challenges is it's a, it's an easy fix because it's a low cost. And look, I mean, there's probably guys out there running construction right now. I know probably a lot of those guys listen to us and it gets complicated because they'll probably say, well, I have a contracting business and then I subcontract this portion of a build and then I don't know what my subcontractor's doing. There's so many different levels of who does what. But look, the entire basis of economics is if you pay a wage that of capitalism that somebody finds to be a good offer, they will sell their labor for that wage. You've got some data there, and I think it depends on the city in terms of, of what percentage of the construction workers of different locations. I just don't buy that it's impossible to find Americans who are willing to do construction jobs.
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Travis Holloway
Well, think, think about the argument that, that Gavin Newsom is making, oh, we can't rebuild the Palisades. And I'd also note I saw they're putting together $100 million for low income housing now that they're going to be putting in the Palisades.
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Clay Travis
So by the way, I also saw our friend Adam Carolla shared a video or a photo. I know I shared it on, of Malibu. It's now been, whatever it is, six months since the fires there, no building going on. Yeah, there is almost no rebuilding by and large as a percentage of the places that were torn down and burned down that has been allowed to take place.
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Travis Holloway
I, and I remember I was at a, and it was an off the record dinner, but I was at a dinner years ago, Clay, with some very heavy hitters in the conservative movement that do what we do and some big donors, you know, they asked me to come to a dinner. I came to the dinner, sat down, and I remember things. Everything was, was flowing fine and smoothly until One of the big donors, lady, she's like, I'm sorry, but, you know, the businesses that I own, without it, without illegals, we wouldn't be. We wouldn't have the workforce. And that just set off. I mean, it was a. It went from, you know, string quartet playing in the corner and everyone having their filets to a donnybrook at that table. It got it, got it. And I definitely was throwing some of the haymakers. I was like, absolutely not. Here is the. Here is the stat that I was able to pull up. 15 to 20% of construction workers are illegals. So let's just give it the high end of that number. That means 80% nationwide of people who are doing construction are Americans. So we are to believe that you can't have a construction industry if you have a reduction in force of, let's say, 15% or whatever it may be. Let me also be clear. There are other people that should be prioritized ahead of people who are. Have been here for five years or they've been here, you know, and they're doing that, and eventually there may be a discussion to be had about someone's been here 20 years, they got family. You know, that's a down the line thing. But first you got to deport the people that have been here for a couple of years and are trying to scam the system. First you gotta deport the 10 million. 10 million who came in under Biden. No questions asked.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. And again, I think they're really good questions that are very difficult to answer. Why won't Americans do the jobs? Or they're not paid enough? Well, maybe those jobs should pay more. I think that's a reasonable take. Second part of this is. And there's never a good answer for this either. Okay, what is the number? Right. What would be. I thought about this in the Superman context where he said, superman's an immigrant. We have to all be more kind. That's James Gunn, the coach, or the director of the Superman movie. I would love to ask those people, what is your number? That's too many. Right. We have a population, let's say 330 million people legally, roughly, in the United States. Should we take 100 million? I mean, there's 7 billion people around the world. Right. Do they have a number where our kindness would be taken advantage of in their mind? Because I think for most people listening to US right now, 20 million is where? Well past the number. Right. And some of you would say the number should be zero. And I get that. But for the People who are saying, Hey, 20 million. Where's our basic kindness? Like, we should be able to extend a hand to these bill. How many people should we bring into the country that should be allowed to live here that are not citizens right now? To how far, how high would the number have to get for you to say, hey, that's too many? Nobody ever asked that question. I would love to know of Gavin Newsom. Hey, we've got 20 million illegals here. What's the number that you think would be untenable for American life? Because at some point can't take a billion people, right? Like, at some point everybody has a number. Well, and nobody ever gives me a number where they say, hey, well, you know, 50 million is fine. And then we just, well, why do you draw the line there? Right? How do you arbitrarily decide how much breaking of the law you are comfortable allowing in order for your moral equivalency to be able to be broadcast nationwide? Nobody ever really answers that question. Frankly, it rarely gets asked. I think it's an interesting one.
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Travis Holloway
Well, you start to see that Sweden, for example, a country that was deeply homogenous for a very long time, right? It was a, a, a like 95% plus white Lutheran religion country, is now about 30% immigrant. And of that 30% immigrant population, a huge portion of them are Muslims. And you start to see, well, what is this doing for the social cohesion and the notion of a Swedish? And in the case of Sweden, I might add, because they wanted to be so generous with their welfare benefits, they've. There are all these enclaves where there are people who speak absolutely no Swedish, no interest in anything of the Swedish state other than taking money from the Swedish state, and actually occasionally will speak quite openly about how the plan is to bring in more of their relatives and, and countrymen from somewhere else so they can just take over. Yeah, they're, they're quite open.
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Clay Travis
This is real.
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Travis Holloway
This has been happening in the context of European countries for a while. I just bring up Sweden because it's only 10 million people. It's a little bigger than the size of New York City. So when you bring in a 30% non Swedish population, think about what that's like for that country. And that's also a country that has. Now the system doesn't want to keep track of how badly the system has failed. So they won't keep track of crime by, you know, who's doing it and what's going on. You might say, buck, I don't give a, you know, what about Sweden? My point is that is an example, an exemplar of how things can go badly when you have too much and not enough assimilation, not enough nation state cohesion, not enough pride in the culture and the, the shared history and shared belief of a country. You can actually disintegrate a country through this. And that's what the Democrats are running up against, the awakening of the American people to this.
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Clay Travis
Well, I think a lot of people were raised on the era of diversity is our strength. I think a lot of people are saying, I don't know that that's a very, I mean that is, that would be, I think if you were saying like, hey, what is a definitive phrase that was deeply embedded culturally in America starting about, I don't know, what do you think? In the early 2000s, late 90s, like this idea of diversity as our strength became a big talking point and it became a cliche. And I think a lot of people just kind of tossed it to the backside, didn't really think about it very much. I don't think that's true at all. Diversity of thought can be a strength because it can lead to better ideas, things like that. But diversity of culture in the Sweden example that you gave, like, there's a big difference between the people that are moving to Sweden and the people who have lived there for generations. And you know, countries like Japan would not allow this to happen, right? They wouldn't allow there to be a 30% non native population and they're not considered to be xenophobic.
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Travis Holloway
Imagine if I showed up in Japan and I said, I work harder than all of you and you need me and without me you won't be able to have whole industries function. And you're lucky that I'm here. I mean, I don't know if I'd hear the laughter as they were escorting me to the plane to send me back to wherever I came from or not. But that's what you just had.
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Clay Travis
You guys just had a baby. You and Kerry. Imagine even more ridiculously at, at seven months pregnant, you had decided, hey, I'm going to go to Japan and my kid is going to be Japanese. I mean, that would be ludicrous, I think to people who live in Japan. That happens every single day thousands of times in the United States.
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Travis Holloway
I would say it's even worse than that though, because it would be if I, if my wife and I went to Japan, had a baby in Tokyo on vacation, came back to America, basically learned no Japanese whatsoever, and then my son shows up in Tokyo in 18 years and says I want to go to Tokyo University for free. And I also want to sponsor my 10 relatives to come to your country because I'm as Japanese as Sapporo beer.
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Clay Travis
I was wondering what your analogy was going to be. You pulled that out at the end.
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Travis Holloway
I couldn't say. I couldn't say Apple pie, right? American? Is apple pie Japanese? Poro beer. Not bad.
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Clay Travis
The team needs to find I did the my Japanese interview on Superman. I don't know what ended up happening with that. I got an email in Japanese by.
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Travis Holloway
The way, because that we need the clip of Clay dubbed in Japanese because that will go. That will be fun.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program. Buck, you were mentioning whether you could hit a hundred mile an hour pitch if you knew a fastball was coming and you were standing in the batter's box 100 really fast.
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Travis Holloway
Aren't they usually like 85?
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Clay Travis
No, no, no. All these guys, all these starting pitchers in the Major League Baseball can throw, I mean high 90s for sure, and a lot of them can hit 100. But I thought you would appreciate this. You didn't see it yesterday in the Home Run Derby. A kid, they had like teenagers running around in the outfield, boys and girls trying to catch fly balls during the Home Run Derby, which feels a little bit dangerous to me given how ripped some of these balls were. Nobody got hit, to my knowledge. But a kid stole a home run in the Home Run Derby. He ran and leapt and made a catch. Did you need to watch this video? And I don't know how many of you saw this. The field, left field wall in Atlanta is a little bit low and this teenage kid made an unbelievable catch. He stole what would have otherwise been a home run during the Home Run Derby by making a spectacular catch over the wall. And maybe we can put this up @clay&buck.com if you guys want to see it. But it kind of tied into me a little bit. Like everybody sits around. If you were in the outfield and you were, or your baseball player and you daydream, you're like, man, I'd love to rob a home run, right? Steal a home run from going over the wall. You leap at the perfect moment, catch it and bring it back onto the field of play. A teenage kid did that last night during the live home run Derby and created a bit of a controversy because they had to go back and reward the home run because you're not supposed to be playing defense during the Home Run Derby. But kid couldn't turn off the skills and so this kid has gone mega viral for the the play that he made. And it reminded me when you were talking about trying to hit a home run, that kid literally stole a home run from a other otherwise major league baseball player with millions of people watching.
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Travis Holloway
Last night, Wasn't there the guy who got in all the trouble at a Was it a White Sox game or something or where he caught Yankees Yankees.
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Clay Travis
Jeffrey Meyer reached over and stole a home run like they the Yankees won a game if I remember correctly, because he reached over the outfield was the Cubs. No, that was Bartman. There's two different that's that's the negative side.
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Travis Holloway
I'm getting my I'm getting my things.
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Clay Travis
Confused, but I think you're right. The Marlins were playing the Cubs and there was a ball hit into the Cubs never won the World Series at that point. Fan reaches out Steve Bartman tries to catch the ball voices Halu isn't able to catch the it turned into a huge story. We come back. By the way, the craziest question you've heard in a long time everyone's loving.
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