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All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now. And one of the great things about this show is because we are in the middle of the day, we have. Wait, we have Miranda. Oh, great. Okay, great. Because in the middle of the day we get breaking news. But right now I got Miranda Devine breaking in here with a phone call and she's making some time for us. She's very busy right now because she is right in the midst of these revelations about Thomas Crooks, the would be assassin of Donald Trump. Miranda, your piece up in the New York Post. I think we've got a cross post@clayandbuck.com it is very important. Let's start with this. How sure are we, how solid are we that that this stuff about, about Crooks right now is true that has been found online? The YouTube accounts like, like go through a little bit of the verification of that with us.
Miranda Devine
Yeah, sure. This is from a source who is obviously very tech savvy and has basically used open source searching of web archives using some tools that private investigators have, but not using law enforcement tools. And you know, a day after Butler, YouTube, for instance, shut down Thomas Crooks account. But my source managed to find old messages from there. Now this was available to the FBI because we know that the deputy director, Paula Bate, back in July of, of last year, a week, two weeks after the Butler event, he testified to Congress about this account with more than 700 comments which we have, which our source gave us. And so, you know, it's pretty straightforward. Our source found 17 online accounts that Thomas Crooks had signed up to using his own name, using a phone number of Thomas Crooks that was publicly available and his email addresses that connected to all these accounts. So he's cross checked it and is very satisfied that this is the Thomas Crooks where he wasn't 100% sure. He said so, but he used these. They're not really aliases, but they're sort of handles.
Buck Sexton
Right.
Miranda Devine
Crooks used on other social media like Gab and X. He used Epic Microwave. That's also what he used on a site called DeviantArt. The only time he Used an actual alias to sign up for an account, was with PayPal. And he used the name Rod Swanson, which is the name of an FBI agent who. A former FBI agent from Vegas who was peripherally involved in the Las Vegas, you know, mysterious mass shooting. I've talked to him, knows nothing about it, doesn't have a PayPal account, never heard of, never. Never interacted with Thomas Crooks, and doesn't even know how to set up a PayPal account. But what he did tell me, because he's a very senior former FBI guy, very seasoned, he said it is inconceivable that a kid with this kind of online communications and sort of violent rhetoric would not have been visited or be on the radar of the FBI. So, you know, other FBI people tell me the same thing. Some one of them suggested that because August 2020 was when Thomas was at his peak, violent rhetoric, talking about assassinating political leaders and assassinating military leaders and using AR15s, which was similar to the gun that he used. And just after that, he goes dark. He just disappears off all of these platforms. You just. He's a ghost. But Until August of 2020, he's very prolific. And you can see the trajectory of how he. From, you know, age sort of 15, 16, very pro Trump, you know, like calling him the ultimate patriot, very anti Democrats, anti the squad, anti Ilhan Omar. And then something happens to him in January 2020, in the space of two months, he's gone from rabidly pro Trump he goes to rabidly anti Trump. He's got flipped 180 degrees. And then his. His rhetoric gets more and more violent and disturbing and, you know, people. It was so bad that there were people online interacting him with him who were tagging the FBI and saying to him, hey, you know, you're pretty dumb. Like, the way you're talking openly now, it's good because now law enforcement knows where to find you. So it's hard to believe the FBI didn't have him in their sights. But Christopher Wray, a week after Butler, testified to Congress that they had done a search of their database and found nothing before Butler. So that doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't have any interaction. And I think Christopher Wray knew exactly what he was doing when he phrased it in that way, because I know that during my Biden research that there was interactions with whistleblowers about the Biden family, influence peddling, corruption. And that was not visible to any average FBI agent looking in the database. It was hidden away deliberately by Certain rogue FBI agents in a place where it could only be found by people who needed to know.
Buck Sexton
So there's so much here, Miranda, I want, I think it's so important everyone knows these details because it's hard to believe, that's one way of putting it, that all this was out there and that as you've, as you said from even FBI sources of yours, that this would not have been on the FBI's radar. But an even like, lesser but also equally hard to believe component of this to me seems to be that the FBI didn't find this stuff. Like why? How is it possible that your person, your source, was able to find this online, but the FBI wasn't able to? Right. There's the possibility of being on the radar before the shooting and the, and possible meeting with law enforcement. You've established that. But how is it that we didn't know about this before? Is the FBI, are we to be told that they're that incompetent? That is just, it's mind blowing.
Miranda Devine
No, I have no reason to think that the FBI isn't fully aware of this and much more. I mean, you know, it would be ridiculous to think that they hadn't uncovered this. And in fact, Paul Abate, the deputy director under Wray, did testify that they had this account with more than 700, same as the YouTube account. So I assume they have all of this and much more. The question is why haven't they been more forthcoming, particularly since Trump took over, by. When I contacted the FBI about this story and asked them a number of questions, including, I think the most important question. Did you have any interactions with Thomas Crook before Butler? Did anyone tip you off about Thomas Crook? You know, did you investigate him? Did you knock on his door? That's what I'm told. They should have knocked on his door. Did you do that? What? The answer I get from Cash Patel's FBI, no comment. That's it. So I don't understand it. And you know, someone else said to me, well, maybe it was the Secret Service, because in August 2020, Donald Trump was president. So they have would be the primary agency that would go and knock on a door if there's a threat to one of their protectives. But the Secret Service gave me a better response when I asked them and they said basically that this would, in this would be something the FBI would do that even if they, they said they have no record of crooks. They said now. But in any case, this is an FBI responsibility. So I don't even think it's as simple as fall between the cracks between two agencies. The FBI knows a lot. They have to know a lot. Just how much I don't know and whether.
Buck Sexton
Can I jump in with there's something that we didn't know or at least it wasn't reported until this week that this guy used they them pronouns and was like interested in furries and had brought into the gender madness. How could that not have been brought forward if the FBI was operating in good faith and had access to this information?
Miranda Devine
Yes, I mean, it's very slim, I have to emphasize that. But like Tyler Robinson, the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk, there is a connection to this sexual fetish called furries, which is people dressing up as animals or, you know, enjoying cartoon animal humanized figures having sex or being in sexual positions. So Thomas Crook, he's not shared any furry stuff or talked about it, but he was frequenting and had two accounts on a site called DeviantArt, which is the major sort of furry hub online. Furry hub. And it's sort of for the furry community. And he doesn't share anything like that. He does share this sort of bizarre image of a very muscle bound, sort of Sylvester Stallone sort of masculine body with a female head on top of it with a puny little guy next to it that looks like him, that's sort of in a prostate. They're not dressed. They're dressed in their underwear. So that's one. And then other than that sort of cartoon characters on this platform that are violent, shooting each other in the head and so on.
Buck Sexton
Right. So I mean, he's clear, he's clearly a sicko. What about the they them pronoun stuff?
Miranda Devine
And he uses they them pronouns on DeviantArt. That's the first time we've seen that. So clearly some sort of gender confusion or exploring gender identity again, I mean, that's disturbing and needs to be explored because we've had so many gender school shooters. Tyler Robinson, also in that vein. His, his living lover. So I think it's pertinent. I don't think it's enough for Keshe Patel to say, oh, he was a lone actor, forget about it. I mean, if there's a pattern, we need to know about it. Ron Johnson, it's not just me as a journalist or Tucker Carlson who also did an episode on this last week with the same source. It's also Ron Johnson, the senator whose job is oversight of the FBI. And he has been asking since day one for a whole lot of information, including, you know, camera forensics. Autopsy, other documents and getting stonewalled. And even under Trump's FBI, he had to. Ron Johnson was very angry about the fact that in July, on the one year anniversary of Butler, he had to subpoena Cash Patel for the documents that he's been asking for.
Buck Sexton
So, you know, we will, we will have a team. Let's, let's get Ron John. He may be listening right now. Let's get Senator Johnson on here because I want to talk to him about this as well because we need to continue to follow this and push for this. Miranda, this is all so important. And everyone should go read Miranda's piece at the New York Post. Also her podcast, Pod Force One.
Miranda Devine
Yeah, Yep.
Buck Sexton
Go, go check out her podcast before, before. Let you go, though. I know you got a whole bunch of hits today. Tell me. I want to let you react to this honestly. You know, Clay and I really appreciate your work and we appreciate you as a person. Hunter Biden is a jerk. You were always, while you reported on him, you would always say, look, he's kind of a sad guy and like, you know, he might actually, you know, I, you always had some, when you would talk to us about this on the air, some degree of sympathy for the guy because I think you're just a nice person. I had to play this because I want you to react. Hunter Biden here said mean things about you, and Clay and I are ready to fight him. Play 16. There's no ethics in what, you know, like someone as horrendously ugly as Miranda Devine physically. And, and in terms of her, in terms of ethics, it does. I mean, she is, you know, a. And then, and, and, and that goes for, you know, you know, I mean, Daily Mail and, you know, but I mean, they're horrors. I mean, they're whores for money. And you know, she does it because she makes money. And you know, when she goes to sleep at night, I'm sure she sleeps just fine. But, you know, I don't know anybody that is going to be mourning her when she's gone. I think person. Well, we appreciate you. Everything you said is a lie and he's a disgusting piece of trash. I just. Do you feel like, oh man, you were too nice to this guy? He's a horrible human being. He truly is.
Miranda Devine
I still have the same impression of him that I've always had. He's a broken human being and look, he's lashing out. You notice that in all his podcasts, he never refutes a word I said and what I've Written. And what I found, even though he keeps up the pretense through his lawyer, Abby Lowell, that he doesn't know anything about the laptop. It's not his laptop. Or maybe it was his laptop. It was stolen. He never refutes any of it. The millions of dollars, the fact that he traded on his father's name, the fact that his father was involved in getting him clients, and then he put him on the speakerphone, all that corruption during Joe Biden's vice presidency to enrich his family, he doesn't. He doesn't go into any of that and try and defend himself. He just attacks my appearance and hilariously calls me a whore. So, I mean, you know, it's ridiculous, and I think I just ignore it. I mean.
Buck Sexton
I mean, he's. He's. He should. He should be in prison, as we all know, he should be serving a lengthy federal sentence in prison. But because of daddy, he's not. But I just. You know, Miranda, I think there were a lot of people on the right who. Who were, you know, they're all, he's an addict. And they try to give some sympathy. I think what you saw here, he's a disgusting human being. And I. And I thought that all along. So, you know, I just think he showed everybody what a piece of garbage he is. And I'm just glad that you did the completely accurate and fearless reporting on him that you did, and that people knew the truth about the Bidens in general and the Biden crime family. So. And you know, Clay. Clay or I are happy to have a word with him outside the bar if we ever see him, you know, after he says mean things. Yes. Anyway, Miranda, you're the best. You're the best. Yeah. And. All right, people should go check out Pod Force One. Thank you, Miranda. Thank you. Look, when you got kids under your roof, you can't mess around when it comes to protecting them. Before my son was born, earlier this year, my wife and I put self protection devices made by Sabre in our home. In fact, we have them in numerous rooms so that we're ready to go. Sabre is the number one pepper spray brand trusted by law enforcement. Their products are effective at deterring a threat by an uninvited intrusion. I don't wish it to happen, but if it does, their non lethal tools will work. Their pepper gel gun is a great example. Shaped like a pistol or a rifle, depending on the model. And in both cases, it fires off a pepper gel projectile that's targeted and goes a longer distance than you'd think. Sabre is spelled S A B R E. The website is sabre. That's saber. Radio.com Decide for yourself and your family what's best, what you're comfortable with. Clay and I both have Saber products in our homes. Our wives really appreciate these non lethal self protection tools. Go to Sabre S A b r e saberradio.com youm'll save 15 there. Saberradio.com or call 844-824safe Want to be in the know when you're on the.
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Family to be doing business in Saudi Arabia while you're President?
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And your loyal highness, the US Intelligence concluded that you, you orchestrated the brutal.
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Who are you with?
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Donald Trump
Fake News. ABC Fake news. One of the worst, one of the worst in the business. But I'll answer your question. I have nothing to do with the family business. I have left. And when I, I've devoted 100% of my energy, what my family does is fine. They do business all over. They've done very little with Saudi Arabia, actually. I'm sure they could do a lot. And anything they've done has been very good. That's what we've done. We've built a tremendous business for a long time. I've been very successful. I decided to leave that success behind and make America very successful. And I've made America more successful by far than it ever was and that it ever could have been. No matter who was president, there would be Nobody bringing in $21 trillion dollars. That I can tell you right now. As far as this gentleman is concerned, he's done a phenomenal job. You're mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about. Whether you like him or didn't like him, things happen. But he knew nothing about it. And we can leave it at that. You don't have to embarrass our guests by asking a question like that.
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Oh, guys, can you get, there's more, there's more. Can we continue? Find, find the. He keeps going. Because I was, I was listening in one of our, one of our breaks, one of our station breaks as I was prepping for the next segment. Paul Polander, he really, he really lays into her after that. That's just the beginning of the exchange. We'll bring you more of it here. But you'll notice, did you ever hear anything Biden met with, met with the Saudis? I mean, would you ever expect something like this except when you have a Trump administration, they've just, they've got to go on offense. They know this now. They've got to do anything they can to get people to really, to get Trump to spend time dealing with their attacks instead of continuing to have the focus on this country and what's going on with the Trump administration agenda? Because overall, I think it's very popular. It's very much working. In fact, Stephen Miller, one of our favorites, the great, great, some people are saying, the great Stephen Miller from this White House, he was saying this is cut 17, that it is Trump who is doing the most. It is Trump who is moving mountains, so to speak, on affordability issues. Play 17. The Democrat Media lies for a living, that they're professional liars. So it's a good opportunity to review the facts under President Trump. In the last few months, we have seen the first significant reductions in prices and the cost of living since the last time President Trump was in office. For four years, we saw record setting double digit inflation, inflation upwards of 20%. And now under President Trump, inflation is back down to desired benchmark levels of a little bit over 2%. But to be clear, President Trump is doing more every single day to keep bringing costs. President Trump is fighting to reduce the cost of energy to historic lows. I mean, this is what he's really focused on. And you'll notice that the media attacks are always on, on other things. First of all, what is, let's just take this for a second. What is Trump supposed to do about the Saudi crown prince and the allegation that he had something to do with that guy Jamal Khashoggi's, you know, assassination, murder? What is Trump supposed to do about this? I'm just wondering, what is he supposed to do? What, what does ABC News want? You'll notice it's clearly intended to be a, an assault and an attack of, of whatever proportions they can get out. They can get out of this. Do we, do we have more when Trump really goes after. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ok. Yeah, yeah. This is where you could. Trump has really had it with Mary Bruce of ABC News. Trump has really had it and here he decides to let her know what he thinks of her play. 32.
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Why not just do it now?
Donald Trump
It's not the question that I mind. It's your attitude. I think you are a terrible reporter. It's the way you ask these questions. You start off with a man who's highly respected, asking him a horrible, insubordinate and just a terrible question. And you could even ask that same exact question nicely. You're all psyched. Somebody psyched you over at abc. They're going to psych it. You're a terrible person and a terrible reporter. As far as the Epstein files is, I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert. But, and I guess I turned out to be right. But you know who does have Bill Clinton. Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night, every single weekend. They lived together. They went to his island many times. I never did. Andrew Weissman. I hear all these guys were friends of his. You don't even talk about those people. You just keep going on the Epstein files and what the Epstein is, is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not to be able to talk about the $21 trillion dollars that I talked about today. It's a hoax.
Buck Sexton
See, again, he's saying it's a hoax to try to wrap Trump into it. He's not saying Epstein's a hoax, obviously. He's pointing out all the people involved with Epstein as a matter of record out there in the public, the facts of the matter. But yeah, he's really, he has really had enough. You know, I, I, I also believe, I think that Trump does feel like, like now I understand. People could say, oh, it's the job of a journalist to ask the tough questions of a foreign head of state is in the Oval Office. Find me a clip where anyone from ABC News asked anything like that during the Biden years. Find me that clip. The point is it's two sets of rules. They're journalists when it excuses them from being, you know, ferociously aggressive and, you know, they're stenographers, stenographers for power. When there's a Democrat administration, we're all very aware of how this all goes. Biden didn't even talk to the media. Biden didn't even talk to the media. And honestly had the dumbest White House press secretary, I think, in the history of the job and was, I really believe, also so incompetent and just not up to the job that people felt kind of bad and didn't really. Some people just knew that she's a Democrat, so you can't attack her, but other people felt bad and she's just not up for this. Not up to it, which has become very apparent in Karine Jean Pierre's book tour after the fact about everything that's gone on. So just has no idea about anything and answers almost every question with, as a. As a black woman who's a member of the LGBTQ community, comma, every question, every question. She'll even answer a question about her using that in every question by starting that way. So, yeah, we all know that the media was in a totally different space, very different place of operation when it came to the Biden regime. But anyway, Trump is. Trump is. He's doing a lot of things that I believe are really helpful to the American people and really matter. And the other side of things, the other team is doing everything they can to get the focus off of the issues that you really care about, off of what is going to move the needle, so to speak, and get people thinking much more about whatever salacious gossip they can pretend is actual reporting. And that's. That's something that Trump is just. He's tired of it.
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It.
Buck Sexton
He's tired of it, and he should be. So I, I commend him for taking the approach on this that, you know, enough. Enough is enough. And here is, for example, even over at the Breakfast club, this is 28. Mr. The God Charlamagne, saying that somehow the Bill Clinton relationship with Epstein is so much less. It's so much more. More robust and documented than anything with Donald Trump, but so much less interest in this play. 28. It's just funny how the news works because Bill Clinton, you know, wrote a letter to, you know, Jeffrey Epstein as well for his birthday, but nobody's talking about that. And Jeffrey Epstein had a picture of Bill Clinton in a dress in high heels, you know, you know, in his New York mansion, but nobody's talking about that. My thing is this. I don't care who's on the list. Everybody gotta go burn it all down. Like, that's just simple as that. Mutually assured destruction. Whoever's on that list need to go. Nobody needs to Be protecting pedophiles. I don't care what party they are.
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No, period. And, you know, to that point, though, you know, Clinton is not the president right now. You know, if he was, you think that anyways? Yeah, I think he would still be under scrutiny if he was the president right now.
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No, he wouldn't. Because liberal media wouldn't push the issue. That is correct. I, I like the last thing he threw in there. Mr. The God coming to the, to the side of reality there. Of course, if Clinton were president now, they would just, they would do exactly what they're doing, which is pretend that what is actually the public record on this issue is something else. They would, they would lie about it and they would make it seem like Trump even said this today in the Oval Office. He said, I'm the one who kicked him out of the club and thought he was a creep. Clinton was on his. How many guys, how many times was Clinton on the plane? Can you. I forget the number. It was a lot. It was a lot. Spent a lot of time with this guy and the people. Trump never went to the island. A lot of people went to this island. That's kind of a big move, you know. How many people. Well, I mean, I know you're talking about the, the kind of global elites here, but how many people would you be like, yeah, you know, I don't know you that well, but I'm going to get on your plane, your private plane and fly to your private island to hang out? Right? That's. Wouldn't you have to know someone really well before you'd want to do that? Wouldn't you want to really know who you're dealing with? Look, I'm, I p. I get in, I get invites to, you know, to people. There's sometimes even kind of like prominent famous people. I get invited to, you know, some things here. Not a lot, because I'm a pretty private person outside of my work. But, but, you know, I'm just telling you, if someone I didn't know said, hey, will you hop on my private plane and go to my private island for the weekend, because I just want to talk, I would say, how about a coffee? How about we go for a stroll first? There's different layers, different connectivity that has been established in this public record. And they keep desperately trying to dirty Trump up with this, and it just doesn't stick because it's not there. There's no there. There's. And they, on the other side, they pretend to be the great defenders of these women who were victimized by Epstein. The left, the Democrats, they pretend that that's what they care about, but no, they only care about it insofar as they can use it as a weapon against Trump in some way. And they're far less interested in pushing on what is much more apparent, which is the deep and enduring relationships that some of the biggest donors to the Democrat party, so the most important pe the former president of the Democrat party, that they don't really seem that interested in, you know, that, that, that all of a sudden they get, they get confused. Oh yeah, it's confused, sure. Oh, look, hopefully your Thanksgiving plans next week include spending time with family and close friends. Holidays are the time of year when we get to spend some downtime with those that we love the most. These are some of the same family members we worry about. When there's too much distance between us and something like a natural disaster happen, happens. That's when you want to stay connected. No matter if it's a power outage or a service disruption. Rapid Radios, modern day walkie talkies help you do just that. They deliver peace of mind when it matters most. Carrie and I had this exact experience last fall when a hurricane ripped parts of the Carolinas up and our own family members were affected. My in laws, Kerry's family. Rapid Radios kept us connected when nothing else could. We don't know when the next storm or emergency will come about, but we do know a way to stay connected this holiday. Give a gift that protects the people you love. No monthly fees, no complicated setup. Just pre programmed reliable communication when it counts. Because when everything else goes silent. Rapid Radios don't go to rapidradios.com make sure your family is never out of reach. That's rapidradios.com news you can count on and some laughs too. Clay Travis at Buck Sexton.
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Hey, guys, I realize it's not the.
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Point of your whole story, but the.
Miranda Devine
Tipping part, if I'm sitting down and someone's bringing me food, I'll tip them. If I'm standing up, ordering my own.
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Food and clearing my own dishes, I'm not tipping. Period.
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End of story.
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This episode centers on several hot-button news stories:
(03:13 – 15:15)
“It is inconceivable that a kid with this kind of online communications and sort of violent rhetoric would not have been visited or be on the radar of the FBI.” — Miranda Devine (05:42)
Notable Quote:
“The FBI knows a lot. They have to know a lot. Just how much, I don’t know.” — Miranda Devine (11:35)
(11:50 – 14:45)
"If there’s a pattern, we need to know about it." (14:10)
She criticizes the FBI for oversimplifying the case as “lone actor,” urging further transparency.
(15:07 – 17:29)
“I still have the same impression of him that I’ve always had. He’s a broken human being…in all his podcasts, he never refutes a word I said…He just attacks my appearance and hilariously calls me a whore. So, I mean, you know, it’s ridiculous, and I think I just ignore it.” (16:33)
(27:31 – 33:06)
“I have nothing to do with the family business. I have left…When I, I’ve devoted 100% of my energy, what my family does is fine. They do business all over…Anything they’ve done has been very good.” — Donald Trump (27:53) “You don’t have to embarrass our guests by asking a question like that.” (28:53)
“It’s not the question that I mind. It’s your attitude. I think you are a terrible reporter…As far as the Epstein files… I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert…I never did [go to the island]. …The Epstein is, is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not to be able to talk about the $21 trillion dollars…I talked about today. It’s a hoax.” — Donald Trump (32:01)
Buck praises Trump’s no-nonsense response and media pushback.
(35:43 – 36:55)
“Bill Clinton…wrote a letter to…Epstein as well for his birthday, but nobody’s talking about that…My thing is this: I don’t care who’s on the list. Everybody gotta go. Burn it all down. That’s just simple as that. Mutually assured destruction. Whoever’s on that list needs to go. Nobody needs to be protecting pedophiles.” (35:43)
This episode pulls back the curtain on both law enforcement and media establishments:
For listeners wanting a punchy yet detailed review of the week’s major political controversies—with unfiltered opinion and some inside-scoop journalism—this hour delivers.