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Buck Sexton
Welcome, everybody, to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show, hour two. So much to discuss. White House is set to brief here shortly on, well, a whole range of things. But they're going to talk to us about the murder in Charlotte on the light rail system that occurred. The video which has gotten so many people all across the country honestly just outraged at the failures of the system. And the decision, I should say I'm not even sure we could call it a failure of the system, Clay, because I think increasingly Democrats view this as the cost of the system that they want to have. So this is more of a, in their mind, in their view, this is a collateral damage issue. This is for us to have a more equitable system, we have to have one that continues to allow this to happen. And this is just going to be the way that it is. A lot of people just reject this and they should reject this. But one thing I have to point out is there are voices within the Democrat Party, very loud ones still, that are trying to take us and in this case, take New York City in the wrong direction entirely for this. Here is the likely next mayor of New York. I know I say that. And a lot of New Yorkers listening cringe. The likely next mayor of New York, Zoran Mamdani. This is cut eight. He wants to. Well, you can hear it from him. Play it.
Zoran Mamdani
The jail population of Rikers has increased since Eric Adams has come into office by more than a thousand additional incarcerated New Yorkers. And what is quite staggering to me is that we know that we can reduce that jail population to less than 4,000. Vital City had an article about a number of different proposals that could reduce it to 3,700. And some of this also just has to look at. The average stay on rikers in the 90s was 50 days. Now it's more than 100. There are more than 1500 people on Rikers who have been held there for more than a year. So I do think many of the reforms that have to be made are also reforms around the court system.
Buck Sexton
Clay, the idea that there should be fewer incarcerations in New York City, you know, he should have to if anyone was going to be able to force him on this issue. What are people incarcerated for that you think they should just be roaming the streets and shouldn't have to and shouldn't be taken out of the general population for a period of time? Like, what are these crimes? And also, how many times have those crimes been committed? They should start to have to show. Show me who's in Rikers, who really doesn't belong in Rikers. That's what I, that's what I want to know. Because to speak about this in generalities is to get away with just sounding like you're someone who's merciful or somebody wants to give people second chances. Most of the people who are in Rikers have been given 15 chances.
Clay Travis
Yeah. And I again, this comes back to what are your priorities? Do you want to give people who are good, honest, hardworking people protection and opportunity in the country to have the absolute apex level of success, or do you want to give people who are career criminals an opportunity to get back on the streets? Even the phrase career criminals, it acknowledges that this exists. It shouldn't exist. And I think what's so important about this is they will pick and choose random convictions and say, do you think this person should be in prison? Because they. They're always pleading down.
Buck Sexton
I.
Clay Travis
And, and I think we need to have a bigger conversation so people can understand how this happens. It's very expensive to get someone convicted. And very often the police will charge someone. The DA will charge someone after a police investigation with seven different crimes. And if you go look at the seven different crimes, the top level crime will lead to years in prison. The bottom level crime might be a misdemeanor. And we have overworked, oftentimes, prosecutors, and they are judged on their conviction rates. And if someone says, hey, we'll plead guilty to this misdemeanor or this low level felony, then they get sentenced based on that. They get virtually no penalty. And then someone like mom Donnie looks at this and says, well, look, this person only. So you hear all the time, oh, this person only stole, you know, a. I don't know, they stole a cell phone on the street. And you're like, well, actually they stole a cell phone on a street during an armed robbery. Then they also pistol whipped someone and they plead guilty to some sort of low level felony or even a high level misdemeanor. And that is understood to be the Totality of their crime. And we need to have real conversations about how these people are being sentenced.
Buck Sexton
So I look it up and just to give you all a sense of it, in New York state and in the penal system in New York State, the average, the average that somebody who is serving a carceral sentence, spending time actually in prison, the average conviction is 3. And there are many, many, many who are in there for far more than three. But there are some who are in there. Now you get into, well, what about somebody who's only in there for the first time or, you know, the first or second offense? Generally those are going to be pretty serious offenses because they really don't lock people up for lesser offenses the first time, the second time, maybe the third time around. And we have the data to show that there are people who have been arrested. Well, here you go. This guy who just stabbed Irina Zarutska in the neck to death, he was arrested, I think 14 times was what they said. 14 times.
Clay Travis
That's right.
Buck Sexton
And you have to wonder at the same time, Clay, that these Democrat cities, Democrat run cities with Democrat mayors and police commissioners and city councils and they're the ones determining that, you know, social justice needs to go ahead of actual criminal justice. They're also very intent on disarming, generally not everywhere, not in a place necessarily like North Carolina, but in New York City and Chicago and D.C. they're intent on disarming the law abiding. So we know that they cannot protect us. We can tell you with certainty that the city of Chicago is failing to protect law abiding residents in the way that it should. At the same time, it makes it very hard, in fact, makes it illegal. They will criminalize your efforts to protect yourself in the city of Chicago by trying to carry a firearm. As a law abiding American, you can't be law abiding in Chicago if you're going to do that same thing in D.C. they, they play all these games. Now, technically, D.C. i think you can get a permit, but they make it really hard to get a permit. And you know, there's all these hoops you jump. Same thing in New York City. They always make it really difficult. So I just, Clay, as somebody who is a big two, a believer and, you know, lives that life and has guns in several places, many places in my own home. The fact that these cities are choosing not to protect you as much as they could as a law abiding individual and making sure that you can't protect yourself is even more galling. You know, it's even more egregious when you add, I think those two things together.
Clay Travis
I think completely. And you know, you start to analyze all of this and you realize what it really boils down to is Democrats have convinced themselves that, and it really is across the board that everything should be reflective of overall population. And this is why I look at and think that the story of Asian success in this country is so difficult for people to analyze. Right. If America is a profoundly racist country, how are Asian men the highest earning subgroup of race and gender anywhere in the country? That would be impossible. Right. And what they want is for incarceration rates to directly reflect what the population at large is really. I mean, that. That's where their arguments, they're saying, oh, it's profoundly racist. And this is why they want a.
Buck Sexton
Quota system for the incarcerated.
Clay Travis
Basically. Basically. And they want this idea to be like, hey, we want evenness of arrest rates and everything else. Which is why we come back on this show all the time to let's look at the most serious crime that can be committed, murder. And let's analyze that honestly. Who's committing murders? Probably. I think this is a fair, this is a fair argument to be made. Maybe some of you could come up with why this is wrong. I would submit to you that murder rates when it comes to violent crime are roughly reflective of all violent crime rates, all the way down violent crime. Right. Does it make sense to you? I think it probably does. That if a certain racial group commits a certain rate of violent crime for murder, it stands to reason that the numbers would remain somewhat similar down the flow. Right. So.
Buck Sexton
Well, I mean, I can give you this. Rikers island, across all categorizations of crime, is 90% black and Hispanic.
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
Nine, zero. Right. So that's not obviously just murders, that's just any, any crime. So if you're looking at violent crime, yes. The numbers will show that the disparity that exists with murder is going to also play out with armed robbery, carjacking, you know, assault with a deadly weapon and so on.
Clay Travis
In other words, there aren't that many grandmas or grandpas for that matter, that are engaging in extreme rates of violent crime. Look, testosterone is basically a proxy for rates of violent crime in many ways. Right. Men who are primarily young men, young boys, 16 to 45, as male testosterone levels are at their highest, tend to commit overall incredibly high rates of violent crime. And those are the people who are going to be incarcerated. And so if you can't have. And this is the problem, the Left has. You can't have a conversation with them about this because one, they'll say, well, this is, as Mamdani did, evidence of systemic racism. Two, they then go into why criminals aren't responsible for the crimes that they commit, because that's really where this soft on crime status comes from. It is, oh, well, poverty caused this, or oh, lack of education caused this, or oh, American capitalism's failures caused this. But Buck, you hit me with a great stat that I think really kind of throws this into an uproar. It is young, poor Asian men in New York City do not commit anywhere near the rates of violent crime that young black men do. So if you just go and layer this even on poverty, and that's where to me, if you want to talk big picture, why this happens to me, it's, it's absent dads. I think 90% of all the ills that exist in society, this is my soapbox would be solved if dads are involved in the raising of children. The data reflects almost, if you layer rates of violent crime on absent dads, it's almost a direct response, right, Everybody. Young men engage in overwhelmingly higher rates of violent crime when dad isn't home. And that uniquely afflicts the black population. And by the way, it also calls into question the racism argument because rates of absent fatherhood actually were very low comparatively in the 1950s, before the Civil rights movement. The black family was actually much stronger as a unit nuclear family in the 1950s than it is in the 2000 and twenties. Why would that be? If racism, which I think everybody would acknowledge was far stronger in the 1950s than it is today, why would the black family have become so much of a weaker unit over the last 70 years? It's not racism. If anything, the black family should have been the weakest in the 1950s because it wasn't that long in the grand scheme of things, since slavery had ended, it's actually now weaker than it was in the 1950s. And those are tough questions that left wingers really can't answer.
Buck Sexton
The short answer is Democrat policies and great society, welfare, all that stuff made it all worse, made family formation worse across the board, but particularly the numbers show, has been a huge problem for the widespread disintegration of the nuclear family among the black community, which is, I mean, rates, the rates in places like Chicago, I think it's 70, 70% of children of black children who are born in Chicago are out of, out of wedlock, don't have a mom and a dad at home. It's Something like that. That's, that's very high.
Clay Travis
Something like that. Nationwide, I think it's 75% almost nationwide of young black kids are born without a dad at home. And it used to be Buck. I think in the 1950s it was 15%. So think, think about, think about that. I mean think about that stat.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton SHOW we shouldn't mention that all of the jobs data was cooked and it was cooked in favor of Joe Biden for much of the last year. They just came out and announced actually there were 911,000 fewer jobs created beginning in March of 24. I believe it was all the way up to March of 25. This matters because I think they were cooking the books to try to make the economy look better for Joe Biden when they thought that he was going to be running and he was going to say, look at how many jobs I've created. Basically cuts in half the number of jobs that were created and gives you guys and all of us a sense that the economy was not actually firing on all cylinders. When Trump came into office in late January of 2025, he was actually dealing with a very anemic overall job picture and it's evidence yet again that Jerome Powell, the head of the Fed, has been too late to act. Now there's expected to be a rate cut next month. There are expected to be multiple rate cuts between now and the end of the year. But Buck, this is your lion eyes weren't lying to you when you were looking around in November and saying, boy, it really doesn't feel like this Biden economy is actually going that well.
Buck Sexton
Isn't it amazing how much they hid from the public about Biden really when you add it all together. We talk a lot about the dementia and the, the too old to do the job thing, but he had really the last gasp, I think Clay of the legacy media running constant interference for him and it even still wasn't enough. Right? They went all in on Biden, all in on the Biden economy, all in on Biden's doing a great job, you know, heck of a job, Biden and yet Trump came in, destroyed him in a debate and then Kamala was their last minute, last hope. It just goes to show you, I don't think the media, the, the old media, legacy media, whatever you want to call them, they're never recovering. It's never coming back. I think that Biden was their last gasp of being able to direct national elections at some level to be able to, you know, cause a few percentage points to go in one direction or another. And the economy, the Biden economy is just another example of of the kind of favoritism that they were always playing. When your cell phone service is with PureTalk, you know you're getting the best price on the market and getting the best quality of service. Pure Talk service is on the same towers and network as the big phone carriers, but available at a great price. For just 25 bucks a month, you can get unlimited talk, text and plenty of data on America's most dependable 5G network. Just to give you perspective, the average size family of four saves more than $1,000 a year when they switch to PureTalk. And with PureTalk's US customer service team, you can switch hassle free in as little as 10 minutes. You can even keep your phone and your number. Using your cell phone, dial £250 and say the keywords clay and buck to make the switch. You'll save an additional 50% off your first month. Again using your cell phone, dial £250, say the keywords Clay and buck to make the switch. Dial £250, say Clay and buck make the switch to Pure Talk today Wireless by Americans for Americans. All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Caroline Levitt, White House Press secretary is speaking about the decarlos Brown murder, alleged murder on that light rail. Let's hear what the press secretary has to say.
Caroline Levitt
Play this monster should have been locked up and arena should still be alive. But Democrat politicians, liberal judges and weak prosecutors would rather virtue signal than lock up criminals and protect their communities. And perhaps most shamefully of all, the majority of the media, many outlets in this room decided that her murder was not worth reporting on originally because it does not fit a preferred narrative. Many of the journalists in this room spilled plenty of ink trying to smear Daniel Penny for defending a subway car from a deranged lunatic in New York City. But none of those same reporters lift a finger to write stories about an actual murderer. Here is the truth that every American must know. Too many innocent people across the country continue to pay the price of the failed experiment known as cashless bail that has been championed by the Democrat party for years. All the way back in 2020, North Carolina's then Democrat Governor Roy Cooper established a so called task force for racial equity and criminal justice. Sounds nice, but it's not. That task force was co authored by then Attorney General and current Democrat Governor Josh Stein. It recommended quote, reimagining public safety to quote, promote diversion and other alternatives to arrest. It also advised to de emphasize Some felony crimes prioritize restorative justice and eliminate cash bail. Democrats in North Carolina and nationwide are consumed with the pushing a woke soft on crime agenda, no matter how many innocent Americans suffer as a result. Instead of aggressively prosecuting and locking up violent criminals, the Democrat backed cashless bail approach lets these criminals roam free in our country to offend again and again. These reckless policies have turned too many many of American cities into hunting grounds for career criminals who mock our justice system, drain law enforcement resources and wreak havoc on law abiding citizens. Enough is enough. And that is why President Trump is doing everything in his power by taking action to undo these absurd policies. The President recently signed a powerful executive order directing the AG to submit a list of states in local jurisdictions with cashless bail policies so that the Trump administration may identify federal funds that can are being provided to these states and can potentially be suspended or terminated. President Trump firmly believes that to maintain order in public safety, we must incarcerate individuals whose pending criminal charges or criminal history demonstrate a clear, ongoing risk to civil society. This is a common sense and sensible approach that the vast majority of Americans agree with. And it's time for the Democrat Party to get on board with what is right. When these criminals are caught, they must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and be sent to prison where they can no longer terrorize our streets. This is the mandate the American people delivered to President Trump, and it's a mandate he intends to fulfill. Staying on the topic of public safety, new preliminary data released today by Customs and Border Protection in August shows that President Trump has delivered the most secure border in American history. For the fourth straight month, zero illegal aliens were released into the United States.
Buck Sexton
All right, so Clay, let's, let's come back here. Although I will say that's a very important stat. She just threw out there she was switching that the border is entirely secure. I want to get to the conversation about criminal justice, of course, but she just threw that in there at the end as we were transitioning out of our live feed. The border is, is secure in terms of illegal alien crossings. This is, this isn't. If you had told me that Trump had achieved an 80% or 90% reduction, I would say, wow, that's, that's really a remarkable turnaround. Great success. It's more like a 99 point something percent reduction. It's, it's almost a total, a totally secure border, at least when it comes to illegal crossings. So that's one piece of this. But I think Caroline Levitt Obviously fired up about this. Among She's a young woman, she's a young mom, she's a wife. She has to, you know, she knows what it is to be on public transit. She probably takes the subway in D.C. in a metro, they call it in D.C. sometimes, I think for women in particular, Clay, who see this video, it is their worst imaginable horror that they're just going through their day and some maniac stabs them with a knife from behind for absolutely no reason. And although I know there are people that are starting to ask, well, what was the motivation behind this? And was there a hate crime angle to this? Notice that's not being talked about very much. But nonetheless, Clay, the feelings that people have about this coming out right now, I think it's important, it's powerful, and it's good that the White House is addressing it.
Clay Travis
Yeah. And again, the end goal here should be we should drive down the number of murders in this country massively. Um, and I just, this is one of those things that sometimes I just, I, I, I can't believe that Democrats are lined up in opposition to this because I just don't see this as a remotely partisan issue. Everyone out there should be in favor of way lower rates of violent crime. And for Democrats basically to come out and say, well, rates of violent crime are actually getting better. Okay, I hope that's true to a large extent. Better just means we're going back to what the numbers looked like before the BLM protests. And Covid, that was still too high. So I don't understand why you wouldn't extend your hand. I give credit to Mayor Muriel Bowser of DC for saying this is something I want to work with the President on. Let's actually make it safer. But I saw the numbers shared the other day. Murders are down 60% in Washington D.C. since Trump mobilized the National Guard and took control of the crime issues in Washington D.C. now, I don't know that he can do that over the course of a year or over the course of a couple of years. I would hope that he can. But even if he can't, there are dozens of kids, and I say kids because most of them are young that are going to be walking around in D.C. this fall that would otherwise be dead if the President hadn't taken that action. How can you say that's a bad thing? And the number of left wing white people? Because I look at these protests and it's all white people walking around saying, we don't want more troops on the streets. We don't want more cops. They live in such a crazy fantasy world and their brains are so broken that what they're basically doing is marching in favor of violence overwhelmingly directed at young black and brown people, which is ostensibly what the entire purpose of Black Lives Matter was right now. It was flawed because the premise of BLM was oh, cops are the reason why young black men are being killed at high rates. That's not actually true at all. Young black men are being killed at high rates by other young black men. No one, if you look at the data, is able to argue anymore, Buck, that police are somehow the problem. You're seeing how many lives police protected because as soon as they weren't able to do their job, murder rates skyrocketed.
Buck Sexton
We're also seeing a shift in perception that is related to an old long standing policy of lib news organizations. And I remember a perfect example of this is New York One is a channel in New York clay New York City. That is if Pravda was like transported from the Soviet Union to New York City, it would be New York One. I mean it is so left wing. It is so all about whatever the party needs, whatever the committee decides of the left. But you could see there, you could see it on local news as well. And I would, I watched this, I watched local news in New York growing up, right. I would watch these different channels. I actually had an aunt who was a well known local news broadcaster for many years in New York and she's the one with red hair for those of you who are wondering. And the, the common thing you'd see is, oh well, there was a report today of a, of a, you know, violent, you know, violent maniac like chasing somebody and hitting somebody in the head with a rock. And we have a suspect here, the suspect is 5 foot 10, 185 pounds and male. But then they'd also sometimes show the, you know, they'd show like a sketch, a police sketch and you'd look, you'd go, okay, so this is a black guy. But they wouldn't say that. They would, they would often just leave out the description of the suspect by race. They would just describe it as a man, £185. And this became more and more common. Also they remove the racial descriptor from headlines depending on who it is. The white guy stabbed somebody in, you know, stab somebody to death in Staten Island. Trust me, they're going to make sure you all know that it's a white guy who stabbed somebody. That they, they do this, this has been long standing policy that they won't describe the race of a perpetrator if the race is black or Hispanic, generally speaking, local, local news, a lot of others, or they'll try to bury it far down. This has changed though, Clay, because of body cameras, because of surveillance cameras, and because of the free sharing of that information on X. So now whenever, whenever there's a really nasty crime that occurs somewhere in the country, you know what, a producer, Ali just sent us something. Didn't they drive like a truck into a, what was it, a watch store or something and they beat some, some 88 year old guy whenever there's a really.
Clay Travis
We get to see who's doing it.
Buck Sexton
So the media can tell us as much as they want that we're not actually observing a pattern, but people are observing a pattern because they can see on the video what is happening in this instance and in many other cases just like it.
Clay Travis
And this is where I come back to. At its best, the job of the media should be to take anecdote and utilize it to tell a story about why something larger matters. Because all of us respond to individual stories better than we do raw data. So you can sit back and say, hey, the rate of violent crime in Memphis, Tennessee is whatever it is, per 100,000 and you can put that into a flowchart. And some people, you and I would be data nerds who would look at this and say, oh, let's address this. Most people don't respond to numbers, they respond to story. And so the murder of the 23 year old young Ukrainian girl on video as it was, is actually illustrative of rates of violent crime that are too high. And so the same thing happening with Lake and Riley and her murder in an ATH in Athens, Georgia, all of these are crystallizing larger issues that exist. The problem with left wing media is they largely tell stories that are not representative of larger issues. Like, I don't know if you talked about this yesterday, but compare how Daniel Penney on public transit in New York City responding to a violent person, who has a long history of crimes in the past, who was making threats on, on public transportation. Look at how that response was covered. I mean, they charged him with a crime compared to how it's been covered in the Washington Post for instance, or MSNBC and cnn. What happened on the public transit in Charlotte. I mean, it's impossible to justify that from a news gathering perspective.
Buck Sexton
You know, the Blaze and others have reported this, Clay, but I haven't seen this getting more widespread coverage yet. But we looked into this. We've played the audio, we put it through Grok. We've put it through. By the way, AI also is playing a role in all of this too, because people can get instantaneous answers about so much now without the filter of communists running Google. So. So Grok is a fantastic tool. But when you look at Grok decarlos Brown, the guy who stabbed this girl, I know people get sometimes frustrated when you say allegedly. I mean, technically it is allegedly. He hasn't, you know, he hasn't actually been convicted yet, but it's all on video. He says, I got that white girl. I got that white girl multiple times on the video. That seems like a. Assuming that that is factual and accurate, which, again, the Blaze where I used to work has reported this as accurate, and the video is out there. That seems to be another detail of the story that people should become familiar with and understand. Well, that changes things a bit as well, doesn't it? And when we look at motivation.
Clay Travis
I'm with you. We'll come back to this, where hate crimes in general, I think are. I care about the crime, not as much the motivation for why the crime was done. But again, if this is one of those situations where you say if we reverse the races, if a white guy stabbed a little, you know, young, innocent black girl like this young, innocent white girl was, and then the white guy is saying, I got that black girl. I got that black girl. It's the lead story on cnn, msnbc, the New York Times, and the Washington Post. Four weeks, there might well be riots in the streets, all of that. And now this has happened in Charlotte. And to a large extent, much of the audience that consumes that video, those. Those outlets has no idea it happened. Okay. Much less serious. Infinitely less serious. We won in prize picks over the weekend. Buck Week one. Big winner. CD Lamb with. With the pick there, with the pick on Saquon, as Buck likes to call him, Saquon Barkley. And with the pick on Josh Allen, we won 4.25x. So if you played last Thursday along with us, week one NFL action, you have quadrupled your money. So if you put $5 down, $20, you can go get a Big Mac meal. You are rolling, baby. And hopefully you just had a little bit more fun. That's what we want you to do with prize picks. You can play it in California, you can play it in Texas, you can play it in Georgia, you can play it in Florida. You play in 40 states now. 13 million of you have subscribed on Thursday I will give you a week 2 pick fingers crossed that we can win again, but go ahead and sign up. You get $50 when you play $5 just for signing up. You get $50. Go to prizepix.com use my name Clay NFL season is here if you want to have a little bit more fun with the games. Hopefully we can string several of these wins during the course of the season. Week one big winner. Can we win in week two? Prizepix.com Code Clay that's prizepix.com Code clay news you can count on and some laughs too.
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Yes, that's what it sounds like.
Clay Travis
So again I would just ask all of you, Buck, if this happens. The New York Times, the Washington Post, msnbc, cnn for weeks we are hearing about how we need to have a national conversation about racism in the country. Cities might well have burned. They are mostly not covering it or they're only covering it through the prism of. Oh right wing media is paying attention to this story.
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Date: September 13, 2025
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This episode of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show" (Hour 2) dives deeply into the ongoing crisis of crime in America, the perceived failures of Democrat-led urban policies, and the Trump administration's response to violent crime and bail reform. The hosts, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, discuss high-profile crime incidents (including the Charlotte light rail murder), criminal justice reform, race and crime statistics, media bias, and the effectiveness of both local and federal leadership on public safety. The episode blends analysis, opinion, and notable quotes, maintaining the show's trademark blend of directness, skepticism toward progressive policies, and charismatic banter.
“I think increasingly Democrats view this as the cost of the system that they want to have... This is for us to have a more equitable system, we have to have one that continues to allow this to happen.” (Buck Sexton, 03:11)
“There are more than 1,500 people on Rikers who have been held there for more than a year. So I do think many of the reforms that have to be made are also reforms around the court system.” (Zoran Mamdani, 04:49)
“Most of the people who are in Rikers have been given 15 chances.” (Buck Sexton, 05:28)
“Actually they stole a cell phone in an armed robbery... then plead guilty to a low-level felony or even a high-level misdemeanor, and that is understood to be the totality of their crime.” (Clay Travis, 07:12)
“They cannot protect us. We can tell you with certainty that the city of Chicago is failing to protect law-abiding residents... At the same time, it makes it very hard—in fact, makes it illegal... to carry a firearm.” (Buck Sexton, 09:26)
Race, Crime, and Quotas
They argue that left-wing calls for statistical parity in incarceration rates ignore underlying crime rate disparities and broader success stories like high income among Asian-Americans.
“If America is a profoundly racist country, how are Asian men the highest earning subgroup of race and gender anywhere in the country?” (Clay Travis, 10:58)
Family Structure and Crime
Both hosts assert that the root of violent crime—especially among young black men—is a crisis of absent fathers, not systemic racism or poverty per se.
“If you layer rates of violent crime on absent dads, it's almost a direct response... The data reflects—almost—if you layer rates of violent crime on absent dads, it’s almost a direct response, right, everybody.” (Clay Travis, 13:15) “The short answer is Democrat policies and Great Society, welfare, all that stuff made it all worse... particularly... for the widespread disintegration of the nuclear family among the black community...” (Buck Sexton, 16:08)
“They just came out and announced actually there were 911,000 fewer jobs created...I think they were cooking the books to try to make the economy look better for Joe Biden...” (Clay Travis, 22:04)
Caroline Levitt, White House Press Secretary, condemns Democrat crime policies, particularly cashless bail, as directly resulting in tragic deaths. She defends President Trump’s new executive order to withhold federal funds from jurisdictions maintaining such policies and touts Trump's success in securing the border.
“Democrats in North Carolina and nationwide are consumed with pushing a woke, soft-on-crime agenda, no matter how many innocent Americans suffer as a result... President Trump firmly believes that to maintain order and public safety, we must incarcerate individuals whose pending criminal charges or criminal history demonstrate a clear, ongoing risk to civil society.” (Caroline Levitt, 25:49)
Levitt also claims a historic drop in border crossings, framing Trump as "delivering the most secure border in American history":
“For the fourth straight month, zero illegal aliens were released into the United States.” (Caroline Levitt, 29:11)
“Murders are down 60% in Washington D.C. since Trump mobilized the National Guard and took control of the crime issues...” (Clay Travis, 30:47)
Both hosts argue that legacy and left-wing media downplay crimes that do not fit a progressive race narrative, pointing to the difference in coverage for white vs. black perpetrators/victims. Buck describes the evolution forced by body cam and social media footage, making obfuscation less possible.
“They do this, this has been a long-standing policy that they won’t describe the race of a perpetrator if the race is black or Hispanic… This has changed though... because of surveillance cameras, and the free sharing of that information on X.” (Buck Sexton, 33:30)
Discussion of Recent Murders and Hate Crime Angle
They specifically mention the phrase "I got that white girl" in the Charlotte killing and suggest the races being reversed would dominate national news headlines and possibly incite protests.
“If a white guy stabbed a little, you know, young, innocent black girl like this young, innocent white girl was, and then the white guy is saying, I got that black girl...it’s the lead story on CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, and the Washington Post for weeks, there might well be riots in the streets… And now this has happened in Charlotte... and much of the audience... has no idea it happened.” (Clay Travis, 39:22)
On Plea-deals and Repeat Offenders
“Most of the people who are in Rikers have been given 15 chances.”
— Buck Sexton, 05:28
On "Career Criminals" and Policy Priorities
“Do you want to give people who are good, honest, hardworking people protection and opportunity… or do you want to give people who are career criminals an opportunity to get back on the streets?”
— Clay Travis, 06:16
On Crime and "Equity" Philosophies
“This is for us to have a more equitable system, we have to have one that continues to allow this to happen.”
— Buck Sexton, 03:11
On the Family and Crime Rates
“If you layer rates of violent crime on absent dads, it's almost a direct response.”
— Clay Travis, 13:15
White House Stance on Cashless Bail and Trump’s Executive Order
“Democrats... are consumed with pushing a woke soft on crime agenda, no matter how many innocent Americans suffer as a result... President Trump firmly believes that to maintain order and public safety, we must incarcerate individuals whose pending criminal charges or criminal history demonstrate a clear, ongoing risk to civil society.”
— Caroline Levitt, 25:49
On Media Coverage and Racial Double Standards
“If a white guy stabbed... a young, innocent black girl... and then the white guy is saying, ‘I got that black girl,’ it's the lead story on CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, and the Washington Post for weeks, there might well be riots in the streets.”
— Clay Travis, 39:22
On Data Manipulation
"They just came out and announced actually there were 911,000 fewer jobs created...I think they were cooking the books to try to make the economy look better for Joe Biden..."
— Clay Travis, 22:04
The Problem of Urban Crime and Bail Reform:
03:11 – 07:11
Repeat Offenders and Plea Bargains:
07:12 – 08:33
Gun Rights vs. Policing Failures in Cities:
09:25 – 10:58
Race, Crime Stats, and Family Breakdown:
10:58 – 16:46
Biden Administration Accused of “Cooking the Books” on Jobs:
22:04 – 23:39
Caroline Levitt (White House) Statement and Trump Policy:
25:49 – 29:11
Public Opinion on Crime, National Guard in D.C., and Results:
30:47 – 33:30
Media Bias & The "Charlotte Killing" Case Study:
33:30 – 41:45
Discussion Teaser for Next Hour (Interview with NC Rep. Tim Moore, More on Charlotte Case):
45:20 – 46:28
This episode is a detailed and highly charged critique of what the hosts frame as urban decline and “soft-on-crime” policies, linking them to Democratic leadership, media bias, and systemic failures in public safety. They champion Trump’s crackdown approaches as common sense and necessary, contrasting them sharply with progressive bail reform and policing policies. The episode culminates in a forceful insistence that crime and safety should not be partisan issues but are being made so by progressive advocacy and media framing, at the expense of the law-abiding public.
For listeners who want talking points or context on the intersection of crime, race, media, public safety policy, and political spin, this episode offers a thorough and provocative overview as presented by Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.