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Clay Travis
welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are rolling through the program we're going to have from NASA Jared Isaacman on bottom of the program as the launch date for Artemis is set to happen tomorrow assuming the weather remains strong and in good stead there. We are rolling through the program. I want to mention you stock market up nearly a thousand points as the overall temperature I think it's fair to say in Iran is being dialed back. We've got a lot of different topics to get into with our guests now. Chip Roy running for Attorney general of Texas and we'll get into some major domestic politics related issues. But Congressman, right off the top, let's just kind of obviously the Iran story is huge. You talk with the White House quite a lot. You know the oil and gas industry well as you represent the state of Texas, if the president were to ask you your advice as it pertains to where we are about a month into the strikes on Iran, you would tell him what as it pertains to the best possible outcome at this point.
Chip Roy
Well Clay, great to be on. I mean first of all, I think what the President's doing is important for resetting the entire field over there and he's putting a lot of pressure on our enemies, to be blunt. Russia, China who are feeling the strain of this and even Europe who have not been stepping up their whole uphold their end of the bargain as he noted today. You got should go over here and invest in order to open up the straits. Now the good news is we've seen a lot of the oil moving through the straits. I think My advice, which I would offer very carefully because he's the commander in chief, he's in charge of our national security, foreign policy. But my advice is, look, stay the course on making sure we take out Iran's offensive capabilities, both conventional and nuclear. Stay the course on doing that. That was the long term threat. That's why they've had the destabilization over the last five decades. But, but not to get too invested in this such that we're in a quagmire where we've got boots on the ground and a massive expenditure like the American people don't really want to go down that road. So let's, let's knock out their capabilities, let's keep up the diplomatic pressure, let's put pressure on the rest of the world to step up and stop Iran from continuing to have the threats that they have and then we can get back in the business of worrying about the election in the fall. I want to say credit to the president. You know, politically people have said don't do this right. And he saw the moment to go try to knock the knees out from under Iran, but for our benefit, obviously to support our ally Israel, but importantly to reset the global geopolitical landscape. And he's done that. I just, my caution is do not get mired in a quagmire with respect to troops on the ground over there for any extended period of time.
Buck Sexton
Congressman, appreciate you being with us. It's Buck. Can we talk about this situation of DHS and TSA and the funding and where this all stands now? It looks like, and we think that it might have had some of its at least genesis on this show with an idea from a caller. But it looks like the ICE backfill of TSA agents has at least alleviated some of the strain at the airports. And now where does all of this stand with Congress? The whole thing is just such a disgrace that people's, you know, vacations, work trips, all this stuff were ruined so that Chuck Schumer could nag us all about ICE enforcement. What is the status of the funding and what happens next?
Chip Roy
Well, I think, as everybody saw last week, I just want to give a big shout out to Speaker Mike Johnson for doing, I think, the right thing of having the House of Representatives send a shot back to the Senate. Making very clear, we believe we should fund all of the Department of Homeland Security, tsa, fema, Coast Guard, but importantly ICE and Border Patrol. And we weren't going to allow the Democrats to isolate, isolate ICE and Border Patrol. We need to Stay behind all of them. I know that we're working through ways to break the back of the Democrats who are refusing to fund these important security agencies when we're engaged in conflict with Iran and we had terrorist attacks here on our own soil and where we've got, you know, rattling by Hezbollah and others. In the meantime, we have a weakened state without full funding for Coast Guard, ice, Border Patrol. So God bless the President for moving money around for tsa. God bless the president and Congress for having money in the big beautiful bill that's giving us flexibility to deal with the Democrats who do not seem to care that they're endangering our country for their political purposes. I think where we stand is I think the Senate needs to come back in. I do not think they should be gone for this two week recess and he come back in work to get a funding bill done like we passed out of the House. If we have to do it, the reconciliation, fine. But what we shouldn't do, I think is isolate ICE and Border Patrol to be used as a pinata and a punching bag by the Democrats. That's what they want. Let's do what we want. Let's fully fund the security of the United States, which is what the American people want us to do.
Clay Travis
What did you think when the Senate left on a two week vacation and you guys were still working on the House side?
Chip Roy
Yeah, pretty frustrating for them to dump that bill on us late Thursday night, that two in the morning vote by voice vote, by the way, without full disclosure to a lot of my friends who are in the Senate. And then all of a sudden we're looking at this bill going, look, your message heading out of town is to fund DHS minus ICE and Border Patrol. And we looked at that and said, look, yes, we want to support tsa, yes, we want to support the Coast Guard, but we're not going to le ICE and Border Patrol stranded. Yes, we can go pull some money out of the big beautiful bill to limp through it, but it's not easy to do and the dollars will run out. We have a lot of our civilian folks, the support staff, people that were writing into us, calling us, saying, hey guys, we're left dangling here, we don't think that's the right way to do business. So my feeling was, and the Speaker, God bless him, said nope, the House is going to stand strong, we're going to fund it all, send that back over to the Senate and that's where we stand. Now again, we should go back to Washington. As you guys know I'm on the campaign trail for Attorney General. It is in my personal interest to be in the state of Texas both so I can see my family, but so I could be campaigning, but as in my job as a congressman, we need to deliver. So I'll do whatever we need to do. I'll fly back up there and, you know, two hours if I need to, if the speaker calls us back. But we ought to get together now. I've been having conversations with him with the director of the Office of Management Budget, the White House, with my friends in the Senate, Jody Arrington, a fellow Texan who's the chairman of the Budget Committee, with whom I worked to get the big beautiful bill done last year. We're talking about options. We want to fund the security needs of the United States fully and not let the Democrats undermine it. And that's our goal and that's what we intend to try to do.
Buck Sexton
Speaking of Chip Roy of Texas, Congressman, something that we've been talking about a lot on the show because it's a big issue for the, for the whole country. And I think that President Trump, with his federal initiatives on helping high crime cities, has shown what is possible. You have a crime bill that you are interested in bringing forth and making the law of the land. What would it do and what do you think is the mood of the American people right now for law enforcement and enforcing laws through our courts in general when it comes to career criminals, particularly violent criminals?
Chip Roy
Well, I think people have seen the dangerous reality of putting people on the streets who shouldn't be there. And, you know, you see these pendulum shifts. You know, those of us who are old enough to remember the 80s and early 90s, we then cracked down on crime. It was bipartisan and we had a relatively safe country. And then now we've seen this pendulum back. They've been letting criminals out on the streets. You know, all of these groups, Arabella, the Soros funded groups, the Ren Collective, all of these entities that put bad DAs and bad judges in place, they're letting criminals out. Well, when we fixed it 30 years ago, we had a three strikes in your out provision, right. We had harsher penalties and sentencing guidelines. So what I wanted to do, and, you know, I was a former federal prosecutor, I've watched those get watered down over the last two decades. But there were some criticisms that I took into account. For example, people said in the three strikes and you're out, you shouldn't have one of your strikes be a random misdemeanor drug possession or something. When you were a juvenile. And I said to myself, okay, fine, so let's, let's prioritize the point. So in the bill that I drafted, I tried to put more emphasis behind a three strikes in your out regime, again to give it more power by basically putting a tiered system in place. So there's points. So if you have a, you know, a dangerous felony that you're, you're committing and you got three strikes of those, you're out. That's permanent. But if you're, if it's a low level misdemeanor, that would be a quarter point or a half point, frankly. I mean, I think it's, it's giving in a way that should get a significant amount of support. But the goal here is to reestablish a framework by which there is a legislative requirement that you put these guys in jail and don't let them out and stand in the way of judges or DAs who are not prosecuting or giving them sentences that would keep them off the streets. So I tried to take away the excuses, if that makes sense, by re structuring the regime to make sure criminals stay in jail.
Clay Travis
We're talking to Congressman Chip Roy. He is running for Attorney General of Texas. If you were Attorney General, one of your top focuses, I would imagine, in Texas would be prosecuting violent criminals and ensuring that they end up behind bars. You're in Washington, D.C. right now. Last year, 125 year low, according to data for murders in Washington D.C. so far this year compared to last year, murders are down 65% according to the official Metro DC data that I am looking at right now. Sex abuse charges down 67%. Is it what we've seen in D.C. and what we've seen in Memphis, Strong evidence that as you're laying out with your potential bills, we don't have to deal with violent crime. We can actually drive it down to levels that we've never seen before and make all of us safer.
Chip Roy
Absolutely. And it's the first order of government. Right. And you know, look, people ask me, why are you running for Attorney General? It's because I believe that the state of Texas is under attack. And I won't go through the entire list of things, but border, obviously, and the issue that we've been dealing with out there, thank God we've got President Trump. But the open border was destructive to Texas. It was also putting criminals on our streets, putting gang members on our streets, endangering our people. In addition to the march of Islam across Texas and other issues that we're dealing with. The issue of crime on our streets is a big one. And, you know, Texas is known for law and order and justice. But if you look at what we've been dealing with in Houston and Dallas, in Austin and San Antonio, with these DAs and these. These judges that are leaving the criminals on the streets, you see what happens. And what the President did, he definitely demonstrated that a strong law and order and presence of our law enforcement makes an enormous difference. And that's not rocket science, it's just common sense. But it takes courage and leadership to stand against the woke leftists, the Marxists, who are totally fine with us being in danger because they say that somehow it is inappropriate or racist to say that we need to have law enforcement on the streets. But the funny thing is, when you talk to Hispanic Texans, black Texans, people of all walks of life, they all want to have. So that's the first order of business, of government. As Attorney General, I'll be working hard to do that, to secure the border, to put criminals behind bars, to work with local law enforcement to do it, to stop these judges, to stop these activist DAs, who, by the way, are well funded. This is one last important point. Whether you're talking about crime, whether you're talking about these groups, Soros, whether you're talking about the Islamist movement across the state of Texas, in the country, you got to go after the NGOs and the nonprofits. The Attorney General has massive power to open up their books, all of them. Look at what they're doing, see where they're violating the law, and then pull their charter and shut them down. We have got to go after these groups who are organized against us and undermining our society and endangering us.
Buck Sexton
Congressman Roy, appreciate you being with us, sir.
Chip Roy
Thanks, guys. Y' all take care. Happy Easter.
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Yesterday, I definitely did not know that, but yes, continue.
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Clay Travis
Have you heard this? This, have you heard this response?
Jared Isaacman
Yes.
Clay Travis
Yesterday we had a brand new listener who said, I have a difficulty telling you and Buck apart. And I thought, you know, I'd make it a little bit easier for him. And this is what it sounded like.
Buck Sexton
Cut A. I just started listening to your show and is wondering if there's some way. I have difficulty distinguishing who's talking, whether
Jared Isaacman
it it's Clay or Buck.
Buck Sexton
So is there some way you can help me to let me know who's talking when they're talking so I can understand each individual's point of view? Thank you very much. Now, you weighed in. Let me guess. You said whenever someone's right, it's Clay, and when they're wrong and you're mad at them, it's Buck. Let's hear this play B. I'm the
Clay Travis
one who makes all the good arguments. Buck is the one who makes all the bad arguments.
Jared Isaacman
We go.
Clay Travis
If you're listening and you think to yourself, oh, that's a really good take. That's me. If you're listening and you're saying, I have no idea what that guy's talking about, that's Buck. I hope that helps out.
Buck Sexton
This is a reminder. Not only do I know what Clay's response is going to be in advance of hearing the response team, we showed up wearing like the same pink Easter outfit on a Fox hit this past weekend. And I think that for people at home, they might have thought, oh, that's so nice, these two guys are getting in the Easter spirit together. And they planned it. No, we did not plan it. I was going to go on wearing pink for Easter and make jokes about how Clay is a heathen because he was not going to be early celebrating Easter. And it turned out he actually beat me to the punch on that one. So this is what happens when you do this much radio together. But did we hear from Pam from Anchorage, too? Yes.
Clay Travis
No, we haven't. We've got a bunch of these. Keep going.
Buck Sexton
Okay. Pam from Anchorage wants to help out with Mel from Montclair, New Jersey Place
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Chip Roy
Fair, fair.
Buck Sexton
Fair point. The moment that the talk about boobs starts to get close enough that some of you might have a little bit of redness in your cheeks, that's a Clay Travis monologue. And if someone's saying, hold on, slow down, what's going on? That tends to be me. So. So by content, that is one way that you could tell if someone is pushing the limits. Oh, that's the Clayster. If someone is trying to pump the brakes, that's the Buckster.
Clay Travis
That is accurate. And it leads me into a potential story that we may have to mention for all of you by the end of the show that involves boobs that I gotta be honest with you, I did not see coming at all. It's a headline on Daily Mail and the New York Post. Just a little bit of a teaser.
Buck Sexton
I think we got to talk about it. I think that's quite a tease.
Clay Travis
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Jared Isaacman
Well, first of all, it's great to be on the show, great to talk about the exciting mission that's scheduled to launch tomorrow. And you're absolutely right. Right. President Trump and his national space policy said pick up where Apollo 17 left off, send astronauts to the moon, do it frequently, but don't just go to put the flag there and leave the footsteps behind. Build an enduring presence. Build a moon base. Realize the scientific and economic value. Do the in situ resource manufacturing, the experimentation, the testing that's going to be necessary so someday you can take the next giant leap to Mars.
Buck Sexton
So a base on space, how long until we can. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah, on the moon. Well, but that would be in space. Clay, I'm just gonna say. I was gonna say a base in space. How long do we complete this race? I was trying to have a little rhyme fun here, but you jumped in. That's fair enough. Mr. Administrator, can you tell us what would this be able to do? And are we setting up the basic infrastructure here for a whole new generation or new generations of space travel, leveraging space for things here on Earth, including low Earth orbit, things like the data centers that will be able to be put there. I mean, what, what does the future of this look like? I know this amazing launch is coming up, but what's going to be happening after?
Jared Isaacman
Yeah, absolutely. Well, let me tell you about it. So let's talk about the astronaut side of things. So tomorrow, Artemis 2 is going to launch. We're going to send four astronauts farther into space than we've ever sent humans before. They're going to go faster than humans have ever traveled before. So 250,000 miles away from Earth, going 25,000 miles an hour on a 10 day journey to test out the spaceship before they'll splash down off the west coast. That's Artemis 2. That journey begins tomorrow. Next up, Artemis 3. 2027. We're going to launch the same rocket. This time. The astronauts are going to rendezvous and dock with the lunar lander in Earth orbit, test out the integrated systems. This is just how we did it during the Apollo era, during Apollo 9. And then we're going to use that to gain confidence to land those astronauts on the Moon in 2028 on Artemis IV. Now, in parallel, we're building the base again. We're not just going there to pick up the rocks this time, we're going to. So starting in the beginning of 2027, people are going to be able to witness, on a near monthly cadence, robotic landings on the moon. We're going to have rovers driving around, we're going to be testing out uncrewed mobility, crewed mobility, power generation, navigation. We're going to do surface improvements. We are going to learn as much as we can in preparation for when the astronauts arrive. And I'll tell you, we're going to bring everybody along with us. We're going to put observation satellites up, communication satellites. Heck, there's going to be a NASA Moon base website where people are going to log in and watch the moon base being constructed almost in real time.
Clay Travis
This is all incredible. It has been for people out there, this is kind of extraordinary. In 1903, I believe I'm right, Orville and Wilbur Wright began to fly. In 1969, we put men on the moon. So 66 years from the creation of the first aircraft, the first time of flight to on the moon and then we kind of just stopped. And obviously Elon Musk, who I know you are, know very well, has been important in propelling the, the space advancement. How do we, how do we avoid stagnating again? I love these aspirational goals that you're laying out, but I think if we went back in time to 1969, Americans would actually be stunned that our space progress has been quite limited since then.
Jared Isaacman
Look, I think this is extremely fair, right? I mean, for 35 years, every president has called for a return to the moon. It sounds good, but what about putting it in practice? President Trump, during his first term, created the Artemis program. President Trump, on my first day on the job, the day I was sworn in, gave me a national space policy and an executive order that said get back to the moon and do it to stay this time, build the moon base and invest in the next giant leap capabilities. We're going to launch a nuclear powered spaceship in 2028 called Freedom SR1. Freedom. That's going to be nuclear power and propulsion and it's going to deliver A scientific payload to Mars, because that's the kind of capabilities you're going to need someday for Mars. So you're absolutely right. We took a break from deep space exploration for a while. We didn't have a competitor. We won the first race, but we have a competitor now. The new race is on. It's to get back to the moon. It's to do it, to stay, it's to learn, so you can undertake, you know, big bold endeavors like going to Mars someday. That's what the President has put in motion. And we've already enacted plans. We're not just doing talk about this. We had a big event last week where we shared with industry and all our international partners how we're going to do it. We dropped RFIs, RFPs, had breakout sessions the next day, because now we're in execution mode.
Buck Sexton
Can you speak to some of the commercial and national security applications of space exploration as it's lined up? I mean, you just laid out for us what the timeline is. But I think, for example, one of the amazing things that that SpaceX has done is by creating Internet, essentially beamed down from satellites. There's a whole commercial application now for this. And SpaceX is obviously putting satellites into space for private entities. So there's commercialization. So I know there's more commercial options that this will lay the pathway for. Can you speak to that? And also, why from a national security perspective, space, NASA, what's going on right now with this program is so important.
Jared Isaacman
Yeah, absolutely. So I'll tell you what SpaceX did which is so important, is they figured out how to reuse the rocket again and not months later, but to do it in weeks. Why does this matter? I mean, think about it. If you were traveling with your family to Disney World, but you had to throw away the 737, how much would would it cost to get to Disney World? Right? That's not how we want to do it anymore. SpaceX pioneered rapid reusability of the first stage of the booster. And what that did is it brought the cost to put mass in orbit down materially. Now what does that serve? That serves a lot of different applications. You can now have high speed Internet in low earth orbit, but it has national security applications as well. I mean, the satellites that we use in conflict, for observation, for communication, for command and control, those are all put up now far more affordably than ever before, thanks to reusability. But it's also great for science and discovery, right? I mean, you know, exploring the world beyond ours is the greatest adventure in human history. We can launch more rovers now to Mars, more probes, more telescopes to look back into the, to the beginning of our universe thanks to this reusable technology. And it's not just SpaceX anymore. Blue Origin has this capability Rocket Lab is doing. I mean, what they did was a game changer and they're about to change it all over again now with Starship, where both the first half of the rocket and the upper half are going to be reusable. That's going to be a light, a light switch moment for humanity.
Clay Travis
We're talking to Jared isaacman, head of NASA, in advance of the launch tomorrow. My 18 year old is a big space kid. Like he's just fascinated by it all. I told him we were going to have you on the program today and he told me, will you ask him how long will it be, in his opinion, until we can put a man or woman on the surface of Mars? What does that timeframe look like to you? I understand the focus right now is moon base, but aspirationally, having so called moonshots matters, it really kind of gets the attention of my 18 year old. I bet there's a lot of kids out there, grandkids out there that are going to be listening to this segment that would love to know an answer to that, to think aspirationally about our future in the stars.
Jared Isaacman
Sure. I mean, I think the answer is, it's, it's probably somewhere in that 10 to 20 year timeline. But, but I'll tell you, this is why it's so imperative to return to the moon and build the moon base. So where we are targeting to build the base that President Trump called for in his space policy is the south pole. And in the permanently shaded regions of the south pole of the moon, you have water ice. So when we land there, when we build the base, we are going to work with that ice and use it to make propellant. And that's going to be key because I'll tell you, when you see American astronauts step foot off the Artemis IV lander and are on the moon. No. At that point in time, we have the capability to send astronauts to Mars. The hard part is how do you bring them home? And when they're there, they're going to have to make their own propellant to make that return voyage. And we will master those skills on the south pole of the moon and then we'll be ready to undertake that grand journey.
Clay Travis
One last question. Tomorrow this is going to be happening in theory, at what time for people out there that want to monitor this incredible endeavor. What should they know? What is that? What are the details?
Jared Isaacman
So it's 6:24pm at Kennedy Space Center. That's when our launch window opens. And that is the earliest point that Artemis 2 could ignite. And you got 8.8 million pounds of thrust sending those astronauts out into space 25,000 miles an hour farther into space than any humans ever gone before.
Clay Travis
Wow, it's exciting. Well, we know how busy you are. This has been awesome. We appreciate you making the time and we look forward to watching the success tomorrow.
Jared Isaacman
Thank you very much. Thanks for your interest in NASA.
Clay Travis
Thank you. That's Jared Isaacman, the head of NASA. It's really cool. Again, I like your question Buck because it kind of goes to how are these things that we learn going to be applied to other facets of life? And, and I think it's really cool. Think about a moon base as an aspirational goal to teach us how to one day put life onto Mars and make us a multi planetary species. Which is I think pretty incredible. But I want to tell you in the meantime, maybe you just want to worry about life on here on good old Earth and maybe you're concerned about some of the catastrophes that happen or just losing power. Rapid Radios right now has instant push to talk communication coast to coast, unlimited range. Remember, no contracts, no monthly fees. Turn them on and start talking. These rapid radios, they're trusted by border control team members, law enforcement. Over 500,000 users nationwide get hooked up today. Young kids, elderly, parents, someone out there that maybe isn't great on cell phones but also multi day charges in the event that your power goes out. Right now you get a tactical radio bag, USB charger and an EMP Faraday bag. Plus every order has a 30 day money back guarantee. They're ready right out of the box. Free gear as I just laid out with your order go to rapidradios.com code radio for 5% off and free shipping from Michigan when you need to be heard no matter where or when, go to rapidradios.com Rapid Radios communication redefined. Do not be an unk.
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Hit it.
Buck Sexton
Good afternoon, guys. With the news that Palm beach airport in Florida is now going to be named Trump Airport. Like Linda in Arizona, I'd like to be the first one to call and recommend that the airport code be changed from PBI to tds. I think with Trump's humor, I think he would go for it. Wow. It's a dad joke. It was a solid dad joke.
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. I don't hate it. Joe from Huntington Beach, California. E. Hey, this is Joe from Huntington Beach Clay. If your golf swing is awful, you're
Jared Isaacman
not a 20 handicap.
Buck Sexton
20 handicap means you basically shoot around a 92. 92 is not bad.
Chip Roy
That's a little almost about one over par.
Buck Sexton
That's bogey golf. That's actually pretty good for just the casual weekend golfer. Just saying.
Clay Travis
I am about a 92 or a 95. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm playing from the tips. I'm not playing from the pro level tees, but you know, playing for a, you know, normal middle range Tease. Depending on how many there are. I play roughly bogey golf. I'm not truly atrocious. My swing is not good.
Buck Sexton
Is that the women's tease or how many tees are there?
Clay Travis
That's the red tees are the women's tees. I would be a. I could probably par most courses if I got humbly. If I got to play from the women tees because they're just so much shorter. I can drive a lot of greens. Even my misses wouldn't be that bad. No, this would be like, there's the tips, right, which is like the pro level. And that is way back. And there's all added different challenges. I'm not saying I'm playing from there. Most golfers shouldn't play from there unless you're elite. But from the middle tier, you know, I would. I would shoot if. Again, if I'm out a little bit around the 92 to 98, I would say would be about what I would shoot. So that's, you know, basically a 20 plus handicap. That's what I put down when I play in the charity golf events for all the golf people out there.
Buck Sexton
So you got that going for you, which is nice. Charity from Milwaukee.
Jared Isaacman
This is f. Just want to give you guys a different perspective on why women aren't having kids and getting married young. The dating market sucks. As a single woman, it is so hard to find men. I am active in my church. I am active socially. I have friends who don't have other single male friends to set me up with. The dating market just is really bad.
Clay Travis
Okay, well, charity. There's probably some men out there that might be interested in charity. But question for you. Has there ever been a moment in human history where women said the. The men available are incredible? I don't want to come after charity specifically here, but I guarantee you, 250 years ago, if Paul Revere was out for his ride, roughly, there were a lot of women in Boston in colonial times complaining that there were no good men. So I, I. Have you ever heard any time in your life, Buck, have you ever heard women saying, man, there's so many great options out there, I just can't believe it.
Buck Sexton
I mean, I'll just speak the truth on this. And I. I can't speak with a degree of expertise here as somebody who was on and off single as an adult in New York city or Washington, D.C. for 20 years. So I know, I know the game a bit. You know, I know how this stuff goes.
Clay Travis
I have.
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There are only sort of two buckets of problem male and female that I have come across in this respect. And I would say this, the number one challenge that I see are people who have too specific and therefore somewhat unrealistic expectations. That's the most common problem that I see. And the number two problem would be people who are not being honest with themselves about are you fit, are you stable, do you have a lot to offer? And are you are you stable slash pleasant? And do you have a lot to offer? And how do you line up with these things? Now, I'm not saying this is very general stuff. I've never met somebody I've said this before. I've never met a woman who was kind, fit and stable who had any problem other than too specific in what she wanted. And I've never met a man who was fit, successful and kind who ever had a problem other than unwilling to commit and make a decision. So there are some pretty clear paradigms that play out here.
Clay Travis
I would also point out that I would actually argue there may be too many options because on social media as opposed to not having enough. Sometimes when you're constantly scrolling on social media or any of the dating apps, it seems to me that you're unwilling to commit to anyone and so you end up just kind of drowning in options. By the way, we didn't get to the crazy story from the New York Post. This is a day tease that we will get to it tomorrow. It involves the former DHS secretary and it's a mess. I tweeted about it.
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Episode: Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H3 - Historic NASA Launch
Date: April 4, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
This episode features Clay Travis and Buck Sexton's signature blend of political analysis, insider discussion, and humor, focusing on major current events—particularly U.S. foreign policy regarding Iran, border and domestic security funding battles in Congress, law and order, and an in-depth interview with NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman on the Artemis lunar mission and the future of American space exploration. Additional light-hearted listener interactions and mailbag responses round out an episode aimed at both the politically engaged and aspirational audiences interested in America’s next giant leap.
Guest: Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX), running for Texas Attorney General
Timestamps: 03:19-15:31
Guest: Jared Isaacman, NASA Administrator
Timestamps: 26:32-36:08
Timestamps: 21:39-24:40, 41:51-46:31
The show balances fast-paced, direct political engagement with a spirit of curiosity and optimism about America's future—especially in space. The hosts' rapport provides frequent lighthearted relief, and the tone alternates easily from urgent policy debate to listener banter and jokes—always with a touch of irreverence and a populist lean.
For listeners who missed the episode, this summary captures the heart of the major discussions—showcasing robust political commentary, a historic NASA announcement, and memorable moments that blend intellect, patriotism, and humor.