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Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H3 - How About Justice?
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome back. In hour number three, Clay Travis BUCK SEXTON show Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are joined now by North Carolina Congressman Tim Moore leading a response to the murder of a Ukrainian woman on the Charlotte light rail. I should mention there are more videos coming out of the stabbing and you can see no one coming to this young woman's aid despite the fact they can see her clearly being stabbed. I would suggest, I know this is dark and it is uncomfortable, but Congressman, as we bring you in, why has the full video not been released? And I don't say that because I am in favor of showing violent acts, but I do think it's important that we see what actually happens. And certainly if you think about the George Floyd video, the entire George Floyd video was shared and used to drive the burning of so many American cities and to set an artificial narrative about police. The narrative that there is far too much violent crime and that criminals who are arrested are let far too often back on the streets is one that is actually accurate. And in the case of this murder, 14 time arrested serial felon who finally decided that he was going to kill and that he was going to say that he was motivated to kill this woman because she was white. And Congressman, you represent a part of North Carolina and also a part of Charlotte. What is the reaction from your constituency and what do you think about why we have yet to see this full video released?
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Tim Moore
Hey guys, thanks for having me on the show. I wish it were under better circumstances. Obviously, the reaction of folks that I'm hearing from back home in North Carolina are simply the same thing that you're hearing, the same thing that your listeners are probably feeling when they see this, when they hear about this. It's absolute disgust and it's a breakdown in the system. And what we've seen time and time again and certain particularly in some of the blue North Carolina is a red county, excuse me, a red state, but Mecklenburg is a blue county. And we see in a lot of cities around the country where you get these liberal judges that get in and these liberal magistrates that come in and they have these woke policies where they just are just soft on crime. And to your point, this guy, I mean this guy was a convicted felon with violent, a violent rap sheet and had skipped court in the past had firearms offenses. And this guy, he should have never been on the street where he could do this. And unfortunately this is not an isolated incident where this is just like a one off. I mean I would submit to you there are these things happen every day throughout our country, which is by the way, one reason that I'm co sponsoring with Elise Stefanik a bill to withhold federal funds from states and local governments that fail to adhere to cash bail policies. You know, if these guys are being held under a cash bail, they're going to be in jail. And a lot of people frankly they shouldn't even be given bond where there's such a danger and a menace to society. Congressman should have been in jail.
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Buck Sexton
Congressman, we appreciate you being, being here with us. So you have signed a letter all 10 members of the North Carolina House Republic North Carolina House. These are Republicans obviously the demanding the removal of unelected magistrate judge Teresa Stokes who released this repeat offender who went on tell, tell us about this process and is it likely to succeed to try to have this judge removed? Because I know state by state these rules can be, can be very different.
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Tim Moore
Yeah. So this is a magistrate judge. So she's matter of fact my understanding is she graduated law school but never even passed the bar exam. And I've been in a lawyer, I've been an attorney for 30 years. So I, you know, I kind of know this stuff. But she is, she, she can be removed by the district court judge. She's not elected and she should be. And I felt so, you know, I mean I represent, I'm the only Republican who represents Charlotte in Congress. The other members of Democrat who represents most of Charlotte. But it's just, it's just disgusting this happened. And she has no business being a judge, being a master if she doesn't have any better discernment than to let someone like this loose on the streets. I mean this guy should have been in jail. This should have never happened.
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Clay Travis
I can't believe she didn't pass the. Well, she didn't pass the bar. But let's go into this because I think you're raising a really interesting question. I've tried to do the math. I've been a lawyer for 21 years now, so I have managed to pass a couple of bar exams over the years. We talked about the analogy which I've seen shared and I do think it's an interesting one that if you are A bartender and you overserve someone. And as you well know, I'm sure, Congressman, if you're a lawyer there, there are significant consequences for bartenders at times. They can even be criminally prosecuted for over serving people who they know are a danger to the larger community and they allow to engage in violent behavior as a result partly of their action. How do we have higher standards for bartenders than we do for judges?
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Tim Moore
That's a shame, isn't it? It certainly is. And look for folks to run for judge, all they have to do is be, be an attorney in good standing and get elected. Right. And I would say the vast majority of elected judges do a good job. But you do have some out there that are just, just so far left. But you know, one thing we talk about do it is actually finding is to your point about like with the bartender, like in the dram shop laws where, where they could be held civilly responsible for any, you know, for any, for any injuries that happen as a result of serving someone who drinks too much, going on having a wreck. We're actually looking right now at personal liability for a judge who turns someone loose and then goes out and commits a crime thereafter. You know, maybe that's the way to get people's attention. That's actually a bill that we're, but we're in the drafting phases right now. Clearly we're going to look at constitutional provisions and whatnot. But I think there ought to be some accountability. I mean, if somebody is doing something this bad, you ought to be responsible for it.
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Buck Sexton
And so what do you think about the, the moves by the federal government because of this White House, the Trump administration, to at least offer up and perhaps even get a little more forceful than that assistance from the federal law enforcement side to try to help cities that are truly crime plagued?
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Tim Moore
You know, it's amazing to me that we have some of these liberal Democrat governors around the country and I look at what's happening in Chicago and some of these other people where these, some of these liberal mayors who hate Donald Trump more than they love their communities and more than they love and care about the people they are supposed to represent. I mean these, so many of these communities. I'm talking from the District of Columbia right now. Right. I mean, and I've, I'm a new member of Congress. I've been here eight months and I showed up up here and saw, what I saw up here was a frigging goat rodeo in terms of the amount of crime and homelessness and drugs and just embarrassing. It's our nation's capital. And I'm glad that the president stood up and, you know, did something like I sent in there. And it actually has a safer feeling. I hope it's sustained. But this president has shown this is not a political stunt. The president has offered this up to help, you know, to help the people that live in these cities. Because you know what, when it comes to crime, it shouldn't be Republican, Democrat. But guess what? These Democrats are making it a partisan issue. And I'm hopeful, I'm so hopeful that people are paying attention to this and because where there's an opportunity to get help, folks ought to take it. Because look, look at Chicago, they're overwhelmed. But, you know, and back in North Carolina, you know, the point there, I think we can kind of surgically say in that case, it's some of these loose bail policies being adopted by some of these liberal judges. I mean, it's, it's, it really is going to require all of the above to get to make our cities safe again.
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Clay Travis
You know, Congressman, the North Carolina is a super fascinating state, as you well know, because there's a very big difference between, let's say the left wing college communities that encircle some of the campuses and the people who live in western North Carolina or the people who live in other rural parts of North Carolina. It's a very different state. Meaning there's a lot of variety. But doesn't it unite everyone to say, hey, to your point, we just want to be safe in the state of North Carolina in our big cities. White, black, Asian, Hispanic. You hit on it. But I talked about it earlier. I've been talking about a lot on the show. I'm staggered that the Democrat response to evidence of high rates of violent crime is, well, it's a little bit better than it used to be. As if that's somehow a good thing.
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Tim Moore
Yeah, it's the craziest thing that I've seen. And I will tell you that in my district that I represent, I have urban areas in it, but I have some very rural areas. I mean, I have a lot of the mountains of North Carolina that were ravaged by Hurricane Helene. In fact, it's a big district. And what I hear across that entire geographic area and across the political spectrum is people saying enough is enough of this crime. Enough is enough of a broken criminal justice system that values the rights of criminals over the rights of people who are just trying to be law abiding citizens going about their business. I mean, think about this. I mean, this young lady you know, fled Ukraine, coming to America for safety, is on a light rail train, is a passenger there. You know, she'd gotten off work in. This evil guy just stabs her in the neck. And then the other thing on the video. You asked about the video. I don't know why the rest of the video hasn't been. I mean, it may be to respect the victim. I don't know. That's. That's. That's.
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Clay Travis
I understand that argument, but sometimes you have to see a video in its totality to really shock the conscience. And so I just would implore anybody listening out here in North Carolina or. And I bet you would probably agree with me. I'll let you answer it, too. But to me, we need the full, unedited video of what happened to understand the scope of evil. And we should have to watch it, those of us who are adults, obviously, to recognize what we have allowed to occur. Because it's one thing if a violent perpetrator out of nowhere acts. The guy was arrested 14 times. I think the. Oh, the. The guy deserves a second chance, third chance. Nobody deserves a 15th chance. I'm sorry. And so I want to get your reaction to that, but I think we need to stare into evil and see it.
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Tim Moore
I. I think. I think people need to need to see it. It's. It's ugly. And there's a video that has been. There's been additional video released. I don't know if you guys have seen this yet, but there's one showing right after he stabbed her. And she's there, and she's. And nobody. Nobody on this, on the damn train even, is doing anything to help her. I'm like that. And I just saw that maybe like 15 minutes before I just came on the show with you, and I'm just. I'm still kind of stunned by seeing that. That no one, no other people on that train did a thing to help this lady. I mean, that's just. That's terrible. I. I just. I. I don't even know what to say about it. I just. It's.
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Clay Travis
We have. We have shared these videos, and they're dark and disturbing, and I would encourage you. I know a lot of people, kids, grandkids, they don't need to watch this. But I think every adult. You need to steal your soul. And you need to watch it because you need to see what evil is capable of, and you need to look at it, and you need to think we all can do better, and we got to get these people off our streets, and we Got to hold them accountable.
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Tim Moore
Well, absolutely. And this, you know, this should be a call to action. And what's been amazing, there's been a few of us that have been digging around trying to find out what happened because a lot of the details were kind of murky as to what exactly occurred. And, and when the video got released is when a few of us were making noise. But this is terrible. Why is nobody talking about it? And then of course you guys are talking about it and others are. But, you know, mainstream media is just now kind of sort of begrudgingly in some ways coming along, talking about this. And it's just, I mean, crime is crime, and to your point, evil is evil. And I do think there's a bit, I mean, just a reminder of people to be vigilant, to be aware, to understand that evil is out there and that we need to be able to protect ourselves. You know, we need to be able to, we need to be able to have a firearm, you know, to protect ourselves from something. But it's just, it's a sad state too, when, you know, there aren't folks who, when they see this that don't intervene and try to help and render aid. I'm just, you know, I do think there's. It's hard to watch. It's hard to watch. But you know what? We need to stare it in the face and we need to, we need to deal with it. But I'm going to tell you something. This president's not sitting idly by and this Congress is not sitting on your bias. They were looking at legislation right now that's like enough is enough. These communities are going to do things that, that do not follow the wall and consistent law when it comes to cash bail. Then there's going to be consequences. And that may be losing federal dollars. Who knows? That may be the only thing that'll get some of these folks attention. I don't know.
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Buck Sexton
North Carolina Congress and Tim Moore, appreciate you being with us, sir. Thank you.
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Tim Moore
Thanks for having me on, guys.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back into clay and buck. President Trump put out a statement from the White House just a few moments ago on what's going I mean they taped it but they put it out on on the stabbing in North Carolina, the murder in North Carolina on the light rail. We're going to play that for you here. Coming up in a second. But first, we have some, some talkbacks. Let's take from Clay's hometown, Franklin, Tennessee. Jim AA hi, guys.
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Tim Moore
Jim from Franklin, Tennessee. And I was just going to give a little talk back about your hypothetical that if a white guy had stabbed a black girl, it be news forever. My thought is, is that if a white guy had entered into the life of crime the way this black guy did, well, the judge wouldn't be worried about being a racist and she probably followed the law and he'd be in jail or institutionalized. Just saying.
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Clay Travis
I think there's probably some truth to this. This is where the phrase toxic empathy comes in. You know, we used to say bleeding heart liberals, but an inability to hold individuals responsible for their own individual action because you're focused on the collective world that you see strips away the entire purpose of the justice system because we should all be judged on our individual actions, not our identity, which we do not control. And that's why justice is blind, because lady justice is trying to treat everybody fairly.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. So we'll tell you, we'll bring to you what President Trump's statement on this murder and criminal justice is in just a few moments. Look, on this show, we handle the biggest, biggest truths, Clay and I, day in and day out. This is what we do. This fall, I've launched something brand new for you. It's an online newsletter that's capitalizing on the knowledge, information and access that we have here on the show. I'm calling it Money and Power with Buck Sexton. And here's what makes it unprecedented. We're turning our access, our ability to speak to the movers and shakers in markets, in government, you name it, and take actionable opportunities for everyday Americans in the markets and bring them together. This is the kind of access that hedge funds and billionaires have used for a long time to get really rich. So think of this as your invitation behind Washington and Wall Street's velvet rope and into the highest corridors of power where the real decisions get made. I lay it all out in a brand new interview. Let's go off the radio with this one and go online. Go to offair25.com to watch it now. Again, go check out this video presentation off air25.com paid for by Paradigm Press.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Look, we've got a lot of people reacting to the heinous murder of a young, innocent Ukrainian woman, and that includes the President of the United States, Donald Trump, who, Buck, you and I have talked about this for years. Has an innate ability to make the people in the media who hate him talk about what he wants them to talk about. And I think it's going to be very difficult for them not to cover as this video continues to come out. Let me also say this before we play the audio. Buck, are you with me that the full video has to come out or do you think that it should be not released? What's your take on that in general? Yes, they should come out.
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Buck Sexton
I think that, I think the whole video should come out. I mean, I said this, this is, you know, I'm not recommending ever watch the full video. But for people who want to understand exactly what happened there, yes, the full video, you know, the full video should come out. The full George Floyd video came.
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Clay Travis
Yes, I agree with you. I think when the full video comes out, it becomes increasingly difficult not to cover it. The fact that they have censored far.
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Buck Sexton
Far more heinous than what happened to George Floyd. I'm not comparing them, I'm just saying in terms of let people see what they need to see to make the judgments about what happened. That's the comparison here, no doubt.
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Clay Travis
Okay, here is President Trump, this is just in the last 30 minutes or so, releasing this statement. It's two different cuts. We'll play cut one, we might react to it. I'll call for more if we don't want to react to it yet. But here is Trump reacting to the murder of this young, innocent 23 year old Ukrainian woman on public transit in Charlotte.
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Donald Trump
For far too long, Americans have been forced to put up with Democrat run cities that set loose savage, bloodthirsty criminals to prey on innocent people. Really very, very innocent people in every place they control radical left judges, politicians and activists. And they've adopted a policy of catch and release for thugs and killers. In Charlotte, North Carolina, we saw the results of these policies when a 23 year old woman who came here from Ukraine met her bloody end on a public train. A beautiful young girl that never had problems in life, with a magnificent future in this country. And now she's dead. She was slaughtered by a deranged monster who was roaming free after 14 prior arrests.
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Clay Travis
Okay, let's play cut to here. Trump continues.
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Donald Trump
We cannot allow a depraved criminal element of violent repeat offenders to continue spreading destruction and death, death throughout our country. We have to respond with force and strength. We have to be vicious just like they are. It's the only thing they understand. 24 of the top 25 most dangerous cities in America are run By Democrat mayors, 50 people were murdered in Chicago in recent weeks with hundreds being shot. And it's time to stop this madness. The people of our country need to insist on protection, safety, law and order. We have proven that it can be done because we did it right here in D.C. in District of Columbia. The capital of America was a bloodthirsty, horrible, dangerous place, one of the worst. And now it's a crime free city, and we're going to keep it that way. It can be done. It can happen fast. All we want is, please, Mr. President, we need help. Chicago needs help. Other cities needs help. We'll do what has to be done because we're going to make America safe again, and that includes our big cities. We're going to make those cities safe.
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Clay Travis
Fuck. This is again, take away Trump and just pretend that you had never heard anybody make any statement about Trump in your entire life. This is the least controversial, most nonpartisan goal that any politician could ever have. There are too many murders, and we're going to do whatever we can to drive down the rates of violent crime in major cities across America. Sometimes I just think you have to step back and just look at this logically. There's no way to be opposed to this.
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Buck Sexton
The, the Democrat apparatus would rather the murder rate continue where it is, instead of accepting that Trump is right, accepting that the right is right, and accepting that there will be a disproportionate rate of incarceration from increased enforcement of the law, which will affect a very small percentage overall. But some black men in this country, as well as, by the way, Latino men in some jurisdictions, are considerably overrepresented in the incarceration rates. But it depends where you are. I mean, New York, for example, is a jurisdiction where that is the case. And they would rather the murder rate continue than to do those, than to accept those things, that those things will happen. Trump is right. The right has been correct. And you're going to have disproportionate or disparate impact, dare I say, from the enhanced enforcement of these laws or really just enforcement of them, and instead of giving people 15th and 50th chances, deciding that enough is enough. So I think Trump is on very, very solid ground with this. And you'll notice, Clay, I read a description of restorative justice in one of the breaks. I was just curious to see what the. I know what it is. I've heard people talking about it for a long time. It's the kind of idea that people who are living in some other reality or on some other planet would come up with, which is, we're going to, we're going to have victims. I'm sorry, we're going to have perpetrators reconcile with victims. How do you do that in a case like this? What reconciliation is there going to be for the maniac who stabbed some girl to death in the throat for absolutely no reason other than perhaps racial animus which now is coming out as well based on the audio. What, what, what are you like, what are they even talking about when they say that we need to have restorative justice?
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Clay Travis
How about just justice?
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Buck Sexton
How about just the closest, by the way, you can argue, I think, very unfortunately, tragically, very effectively that there really is. There's no such thing as justice because you can't give this girl her life back. But you can try to stop the next one and you can take this person out of society so he can't threaten or harm another person. And you can try to prohibit or try to prevent more of this from happening from others who see, if I do this, I'm going to be punished by the state in a way that makes me very unhappy. You know, not that I'm going to go to some rehabilitation center and be treated with kid gloves.
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Clay Travis
I've got. My anger has grown. All weekend I watch this video and that's why I think the full video has to be released. We have to rectify the system that we have created where we're more concerned about criminals being treated fairly than we are innocent people being victims of crimes. This is basically just a balance, right? And all of life is trying to balance equities in some way. Who is the good person, who's the bad person? Who behaved in a admirable fashion, who behaved in a dishonorable fashion. How do we reconcile that in the courts? I think what this situation is emblematic of is we have become far too concerned with how criminals are treated and not concerned enough with how innocent people who are victims of criminals are treated. This should never happen. Let me hit some of your talkbacks, Michael in Arizona listening on Newstalk 550k. FYI, what you got for us?
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Buck Sexton
People are missing the biggest picture here.
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Tim Moore
It's not just a right Republican outrage, it should be an American outrage. Liberal, independent, non voting, non carrying, white, black, green, yellow, orange, all of it.
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Clay Travis
Everybody should be outraged.
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Tim Moore
You shouldn't be able to murder someone.
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Clay Travis
Like that on a train while you're coming home from work, just sitting there.
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Tim Moore
Mind your business and get stabbed. It's disgusting.
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Clay Travis
Well, I think we've said that Quite a lot on the show. This should be nonpartisan. I would echo what he said and VIP email. Kyle says the congressman we just talked with Tim Moore says he was surprised no one intervened. The answer is easy. Daniel Penny, Kyle Rittenhouse. People are scared to get involved. Now, you and I were talking. I don't know if we said this on air or off air. I don't think anybody can anticipate in this situation the stabbing occurring because it occurs so rapidly. This is not a situation where a guy's walking around with a weapon in his hand. There was no.
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Buck Sexton
No warning. No warning at all. And you can tell from the video he just stood up and stabbed.
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Clay Travis
And now, what you and I have said, and again, this is in the video the congressman was referring to, is after the stabbing, the guy walks away on the light rail, this Charlotte public transportation, and no one comes to the girl's aid.
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Buck Sexton
That's.
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Clay Travis
This girl is bleeding out. She has no real idea probably what's happened to her at all. Because the stabbing happens so fast. It doesn't appear there was any conversation or any interaction between these two at all. She gets stabbed. She looks up at him. He walks past. The weapon is dripping blood. And other people in that section of the train see her leaning over as her blood is starting to pour out, as her life is leaving, and no one does anything at all to comfort her or even offer any support at all. In fact, people stand up and walk away.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
That is the lack of humanity we are referencing. Now, if this, again, were a situation where the guy's waving the weapon around, nobody does anything. I think your Rittenhouse example, I think your Daniel Penny example could come into play. Where I would say the Daniel Pliny analogy, Buck, is particularly apropos, is how in the world can the Washington Post and MSNBC and CNN and the New York Times, although it did happen in New York, justify writing hundreds of articles about Daniel Penney and his behavior and justifying the criminal prosecution brought against him and largely not even cover this story.
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Buck Sexton
Well, this is your argument the whole time. It shows beyond any. There's no doubt about the ideological manipulation that goes on with these kinds of stories and either suppression or elevation into the public consciousness, depending on whether it fits a narrative that is preferable to places like the New York Times, the Washington Post. You know, it's interesting as well. I mean, the video is particularly. It's horrific. The additional video, as I'm watching it here, Clay, everyone else on the train is black. She's the only white person on the train and they leave her and she is bleeding to death. I don't even see anyone grab a cell phone to call the police, call for aid, call for an ambulance. They essentially leave her to die. And there's no action taken from anyone there. Now, I understand you could say, well, maybe somebody was looking at their phone. They didn't see. I'm not indicting any individual in this video, but I'm saying collectively in the video, it is quite clear some people knew what was, what had just happened and no one did. Even the bare humanitarian minimum here. Call the police, see if you can render aid, see if you can, you.
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Clay Travis
Know, every, you don't have to be.
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Buck Sexton
You don't have to be a first responder to know you gotta stop the bleeding. This woman just got stabbed in the neck. You know, no one's taking their shirt off. No one's trying to make a tourniquet or a compress here. Nothing, nothing. No one did a darn thing in this video.
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Clay Travis
And the question, we played the Brian Stelter audio for you and we'll play some more your talk backs when we come back. The question I ask, what percentage of this is why I think the media coverage? Somebody say, well, why do you care? Why do you care what the New York Times writes? Why do you care what the Washington Post, cnn, msnbc, we know. Yes, And I love that. I appreciate that. We're going to be honest with you every day. If you really want to move all of America, then all of America has to experience a story that is common. Right? And you could be a New York Times reader, you could be a Washington Post reader, you could think, hey, I'm informing myself. Well, on the stature and status of this country. And when they don't cover a story, when they don't share factual data with the CNN audience, when it comes to crime, msnbc, we're not commonly having a conversation because they have no idea this is going on.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, without the omnipresence of surveillance cameras and platforms like X that allow for free sharing on the Internet, if this had happened 10 years, 15 years ago, people wouldn't know, but this would be a local crime story and we would.
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Clay Travis
Not know about it. Yep. Oh, I, I think cameras being everywhere has created all sorts of complexities. And if you got teenagers out there, I'm talking about serious things. I'm like, hey, knucklehead, maybe don't take that picture, maybe don't take that video. Maybe don't be sending stuff like crazy all over the place. You're 16 you moron. But I do think in situations like these and in the police body cameras footages, the prevalence of cameras actually allows us to see what actually occurred in a way that has never been the case throughout human history. And I think what we're seeing is the power of media to distort reality is being exposed by the reality being presented in front of all of us. And again, I think that's a very positive thing. We won in our big pick over the weekend. Buck three for three 4.25 payout plus hopefully more to come and you can get signed up. If you are wanting to just have a little bit more fun this football season. If you like to kick back on Saturday and Sunday and watch games and I know many of you do, I will be at the Georgia Tennessee game this weekend for fox's Big Noon. And I love football. I mean it is what I do to get away from the serious things in life and I know that many of you are similar to me. Prize picks can make things a little bit more fun. Hopefully we can all play together and win some games. If you think I'm a moron, you can take the exact opposite side of every pick that I make. But we're going to give you picks every single Thursday. You go to prizepix.com use the name Clay. You get 50 bucks. You can play in Texas, Florida, Georgia, California, places you might feel left out in 40 plus states nationwide. Use my name Clay. That's C l a y prizepix.com code clay to get hooked up today. Prize picks it's good to be right. Must be present in certain states. Prizepix.com for restrictions and details. My name Clay. For 50 bucks you can play with us on Thursday. Hopefully we can win again. Let's keep it rolling. Prizepix.com code clay keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast Clay and Buck Highlight Trump replays from the week Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I was just telling Clay, you know, new dad over here and our baby has been a little superstar. Little baby speed. Last night though, he was, he was actually fussy and I think he woke my wife up and therefore me up, I don't know, five or six times. So man, this Clay, this is what a lot of parents tell me. This is what they deal with. This is I think the first time in a couple of months this has happened. So it's been the challenge today. Just keeping, keeping all the energy and all the flow going over here. But it's tough stuff, man. When baby gets fussy, you're in the baby's world.
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Clay Travis
You have never realized the importance of sleep until you have your first child. And I, I mean second child, third child, however many you got out there, you know what I'm talking about when those are super young. And by the way, this is why you could probably use Crockett coffee because I bet you are caffeinated to the nth degree today to help get through the day, get a little bit extra sleep. And we got a couple people who want to weigh in. Truck driver Steve. Some good common sense from a truck.
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Buck Sexton
Driver bb hey, Truck driver Steve here guys. Hey, if, if a person can sue McDonald's for a million dollars, sipping hot coffee and burning their lips or whatever, there's no reason a judge shouldn't be able to be held accountable for someone that shouldn't have been out of prison in the first place for killing that lady or them two ladies, actually.
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Tim Moore
Anyone.
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Buck Sexton
If someone's a repeat offender like that, a judge most certainly needs to be held accountable.
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Clay Travis
It's an interesting analogy. Look, judges have to be right 100% of the time when it comes to review, reviewing crime stats and who should be in, who should be out. I do think over time, if you are a judge that is regularly letting violent people on the streets, there should be severe consequences.
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Buck Sexton
Well, judge, judges, judges are not going to be thrown in prison for making bad decisions as judges because nobody would take the job as judges to be totally honest, as a result because too many risks. But can they be removed for being bad at their jobs?
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
And should that be done? Yes. But criminal liability for bad decisions as a judge that doesn't involve bribery or something like that, that's not happening. So we just need to, let's keep this in the, in the realm of the professional accountability that's, that's maybe achievable and should be achievable. And we will follow this up with more obviously tomorrow here on Clay and Buck.
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