The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Weekly Review H3: Katie Miller Dishes on Elon

Date: December 13, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)
Featured Guest: Katie Miller
Main Topic: Insights from Katie Miller’s recent interview with Elon Musk, SpaceX valuation rumors, AI implications, child protection online, and political/media culture.

Episode Overview

In this lively Wednesday hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton are joined by Katie Miller, former Trump administration official and current podcast host. The conversation revolves around Miller’s in-depth interview with Elon Musk, her personal experiences working with him, the potential SpaceX public offering, reflections on AI’s future, and societal issues including parental choice, child protection from social media, and the division in modern American politics.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Elon Musk Unveiled: The Man Behind the Trillion-Dollar Ambition

(Starts ~02:36)

• Katie Miller shares candid insights from her sit-down interview with Elon Musk, emphasizing his “mission-driven” persona and down-to-earth lifestyle.
• Musk’s humility is highlighted—he sleeps on friends’ couches, eats ordinary take-out, and shuns extravagance, despite being one of the world’s richest individuals.
• The conversation touches on SpaceX’s rumored 2026 IPO at a $1.5 trillion valuation and Musk’s potential to become the first trillionaire.

Notable Quote:

"He's a truly great man who cares first and foremost about fixing humanity. He is not showy about his wealth… He Uber Eats like the rest of us. He sleeps on couches, he stays in friends' houses."
— Katie Miller, (04:37)

2. What Makes Musk Exceptional? “His Brain is Computer”

(06:25)

• Miller describes Musk’s cognitive abilities as “superhuman,” attributing his success to an extraordinary memory, mental agility, and a unique scheduling method called “context switching.”
• Each day Musk devotes to a single company or core issue, allowing deep focus without mental distraction.

Notable Quote:

"His brain functions in a way that yours or mine simply couldn't… He processes information, the way he can immediately recall facts, figures, and data… is fascinating.”
— Katie Miller, (07:13)

3. The Cost of Doge and the Trajectory of AI

(08:19)

• Miller reveals that Musk regrets his heavy involvement in Dogecoin, believing the time and focus could've pushed AI at his companies much further.
• Talks about “AI’s double-edged sword,” its capacity for societal improvement as well as potential harm, particularly to children.

Notable Quotes:

“If he had spent those six months rapidly building an AI, I believe they would probably reach AGI...and have truly an AI that could do a lot more than what you and I are thinking it could do."
— Katie Miller, (08:52)

"AI has the probability and chance to do incredibly bad things, especially relates to children's minds and children's brains."
— Katie Miller, (09:43)

4. Regulating Kids’ Social Media: Australia’s Ban and U.S. Perspectives

(10:27)

• Discussion segues into Australia’s new law banning social media for those under 16, paralleled with U.S. debates.
• Miller advocates for parental choice over sweeping government mandates, arguing that blanket regulations are heavy-handed and not always in children’s best interest. She encourages state-level experimentation and strong parental oversight.

Notable Quote:

"I don't like heavy handed government regulation… If states want to have state preemption on things like this, then that's their right and that's my choice not to live in that state… We should have parents who do great for their children, who understand and who monitor their children online."
— Katie Miller, (11:08)

5. Political Division, Threats, and Public Grieving

(12:16)

• The hosts discuss public figures facing targeted harassment, referencing Erica Kirk’s experiences and Katie’s own family safety concerns (her husband is Stephen Miller).
• Miller speaks poignantly on the “sad realization” that political violence and online threats are an increasing price of public service.

Notable Quote:

"It's incredibly sad… That is, in our country, what politics has become. It's incredibly divisive...just for speech, you can be murdered in cold blood on a sunny, beautiful day."
— Katie Miller, (13:05)

• Buck relates a personal story of protestors outside his D.C. building, assuming they were after him, only to find out, “they were there for Stephen Miller,” highlighting the pressures on high-profile political families. (13:57)

6. Lighter Fare: Trump’s Movie Nights and the Taste of Power

(16:34)

• In a lighter segment, Miller recounts Trump’s fondness for movie nights at the White House, revealing a presidential appreciation for action classics like “Bloodsport” and “Top Gun.”

Notable Quote:

"One of the lesser known facts of President Trump is that he loves movie night…he would pick these movies… for all of the spouses or whomever his guests were and their friends."
— Katie Miller, (16:41)

7. Listener Calls and Hot Takes

(24:44 onwards, scattered through show)

• Callers weigh in on age of consent laws, age restrictions for various activities, the logic behind societal thresholds for adulthood, and whether the government has a responsibility to regulate such boundaries.
• Listeners debate the comparison of social media regulation to historic public health measures like tobacco.
• A clinical social worker shares frontline experiences of kids’ suicidal ideation due to phone confiscation, underscoring youth digital addiction (28:37).

Notable Quote:

"The number one reason I see children in the emergency room for psychiatric problems is they're suicidal…because the parent has taken the phone away."
— Marlene, Caller, (28:37)

8. Broader Reflections: Parental Oversight, Social Media as the “New Cigarette”

(35:17–36:59)

• Clay shares personal reflections on delaying phone/social media use for his own kids, comparing future public health views on social media to today’s attitudes about past cigarette use.
• Both hosts agree that while not all regulation is bad, the core responsibility of government is protecting children from harm.

Notable Quotes:

“I think [social media] is going to be seen as the cigarettes of our era… one of the most deleterious to public health choices people voluntarily made.”
— Clay Travis, (36:09)

"Maybe the most important thing government can do is protect kids…"
— Clay Travis, (32:10)

Memorable Moments & Exchange Snapshots

• Katie on Elon’s mission-oriented culture:
  "[At his companies] they're all mission driven. And it was an honor to work for him. I still do work for him and overall I do wish him the best." (04:37)
• On AI’s risks:
  "There's a lot less learning for our children. And also there's a lot of abuses of it that are very scary." (09:43)
• Buck’s D.C. protestor story:
  "I was almost kind of disappointed [the protestors] were there for your husband. I wanted to say, well guess what, you morons, he’s on the other side of the building!" (13:57)
• Trump's taste in movies:
  "No, they're typically all the really good movies that, like, you wish you could see again. I know we've watched Top Gun more times than I can count..." (17:25)
• Clay on parenting & tech:
  "We didn't give our kids phones until they were 14...for years, they were the only kid in school that didn't have a phone." (35:58)

Timestamps for Major Segments

• 02:36 – Katie Miller joins; insights on Elon Musk, SpaceX, and company culture.
• 06:25 – Dissecting Musk’s mind and work habits.
• 08:19 – Dogecoin regrets, AI advancement, and ethical AI discussion.
• 10:27 – Australia’s 16-and-under social media ban, Miller’s views on government regulation.
• 12:16 – Harassment in politics; Katie and Erica Kirk’s experiences.
• 16:34 – Movie night at Trump White House; presidential film tastes.
• 24:44 onward – Caller contributions on adulthood, social media, mental health, and regulation debates.
• 28:37 – Clinical social worker call on digital addiction in children.
• 35:17 – Parents, social media as public health risk, and government’s role in child protection.

Tone and Style

• Conversational, energetic, and often humorous—Travis, Sexton, and Miller inject anecdotes, pop culture, and personal stories while discussing serious topics.
• Katie Miller is earnest, thoughtful, and occasionally candid about personal and political risks.
• The show oscillates between policy discussion, political commentary, personal insight, and playful banter.

Conclusion

This episode offers a rare personal glimpse into Elon Musk, thoughtful criticism and concern about AI, strong perspectives on government’s role in child safety, and humor-laden observations about American political and media culture. Miller’s reflections provide a high-profile window into both Silicon Valley’s most enigmatic figure and the stresses of living at the heart of political controversy.

For deeper insights into Musk’s ethos, the messy path of regulating technology and youth, and how politics seeps into every aspect of public life, this episode is both illuminating and entertaining.