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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
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Caller
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Caller
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Buck Sexton
This is where mindset comes in.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck show wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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Buck Sexton
Buck Sexton here the entire Clay and Buck show wish you and your family a warm Christmas season and a joy joyful New Year. Thank you for listening. This is the best of with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay, we just had the call. Christy was it Christy who called in from from Utah? She was Talking about the job market, she works in HR and the challenges that she is seeing. I'm sure that many of you who are looking for jobs have seen the same thing. Here's what I think is going on, Buck, and you can sign on or not sign on to this. I think that AI is going to be incredibly transformative for many different companies out there. And I actually think that some of the jobs that are being pushed aside right now are actually more white collar than blue collar in nature. And so there are certain jobs. Let's say you're a plumber right now. I don't think there's AI plumbing that is taking away your job. I don't think that if you're a roofer, there's AI roofing that is changing what you're doing, truck driving so far, all those things, quote unquote, blue collar jobs, working with your hands in some sort of factory. I think there are a lot of thought related so called white collar jobs that a lot of companies are just not filling right now because they don't know necessarily how quickly AI is going to advance and eliminate a lot of these jobs. And so I think there's a bit of an inversion in the job market where there are a lot of people who felt very confident, hey, I'm always going to have a job. And I talk about this with my boys even now. I Buck, I think a lot of lawyers are going to be losing their jobs in the years ahead. Because when I graduated law school, you had 25 year old lawyers who would sit in front of a computer screen and would be looking through documents and flagging the relevant documents and all these things, billing hundreds of dollars, that's going to become automated. I think a lot of these consulting jobs that people got, a lot of these investment banking jobs, they aren't actually super skilled.
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Buck Sexton
If you remember, Cher in the timeless classic, Clueless gets into trouble with the mean associate lawyer because she highlights the June 9th calls or whatever and she's supposed to highlight the June 5th calls. But in the 90s you had lawyers who were making hundreds and hundreds of dollars an hour doing stuff like that, going through phone records. Not even just the 90s. I mean, until recently the once you start to use AI as a tool and I would recommend that all of you do so for your own lives as a tool. Look, I'll tell you and it tells you, don't do this. Or rather it doesn't say don't do this, it says don't rely on this. I've uploaded my blood Work to Grok.
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Clay Travis
To try to get ideas for health.
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Buck Sexton
Like because, because the doctor, you know, the doctor, as you all know, you go in there, for the most part, you get a few. You get your five minutes with the doctor. Here's the big problem. Here's this. Whatever. I'm like, well, what about this? What about that? I'm always a person who, I have more questions than the doctor wants to answer. I can sit there and ask. Now Grok will tell you it's not a doctor. Same thing with Gemini and these other, you know, chatgpt. And so you should always consult with your doctor. But if you're just, you know. So there's that disclaimer. But it is amazing the detailed information, factual information you can get on these things. But you remember that scene from Clueless, right?
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Clay Travis
Oh, yeah. It's a great movie.
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Buck Sexton
And he's like, he's like, you do.
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Clay Travis
What you want with your butts.
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Buck Sexton
I'm calling in sick. And then she's like, so sad. And then she gets romantic with her stepbrother, which I feel like everyone is just a little too okay with in that movie. Remember that? Played by Paul Rudd, Josh. Yeah, Josh is the stepbrother. And they're playing Smoochy Smooch. But it's like, that's your stepbrother. I think that's weird.
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Clay Travis
Do you think that Paul Rudd is maybe one of the people who has least aged in the last 35 years? I mean, I don't know what he does, but if you look at him in basically his entire acting career, he doesn't look very different now than he did all the way back. He's basically looked 30 for about 35 years.
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Buck Sexton
That sounds about right. Probably. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
He's not quite at Tom Cruise level where you're like, what, what alien science experiments are being run to make him still look like he should be running around doing fly kicks when the guy's like my dad's age. But yeah, sure, right.
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Clay Travis
What, Let me ask you this though. Do you sign on to my idea that AI initially is having more of an upper middle class job impact than it is lower? You know, when I say class, I mean like what your salary is.
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Buck Sexton
It's an enormous white collar. It's an enormous efficiency tool for bureaucratic and paper shuffling kind of work. And so there are a lot of people who work on, who have jobs where that is their job. What is the job really entail? It entails doing, you know, doing research for things, going through things, finding things. Well, now you can Upload a. You know, you can upload a hundred thousand pages if you want to, into some of these AI programs, and it will give you every citation or every. Every statistical example of whatever you're looking for, and it can do it in a couple minutes. So you think about the time savings. We actually talked to Dr. Marty McCary about this and what's going on with the FDA.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
For massive medical trials, you know, which they do these big, you know, 10 year, 15,000 person data sets and all this. This is going to make that. No, that's just a. I think that's nothing but upside. But to your point about some of these jobs, here's. We had an hr. A lady from HR calling before. Right. Just saying that out loud. I feel like I'm about to get in trouble for something.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, right. We're going to get invested for sure.
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Buck Sexton
So is it just going to be honest? Clay and I have existed in the world, or. You never want to hear from the HR lady. I'm just going to. It's like, you know, especially if it's a lady. I don't know. You're just gonna get. We're. It just means that we said something. Might have been a joke that was made. Might have been.
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Clay Travis
Does anyone get excited when the phone rings and they're like, hey, it's hr. You're like, oh, no. Like, there's nobody out there listening to us right now. That's like, I've been waiting for this call. Thank the Lord. I'm so glad you.
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Buck Sexton
It's a little bit like when I get my. When I get a letter that says Internal Revenue Service on it, I'm never like, oh, sweet, I want to open this one. So now I understand HR people are probably all very annoyed with us right now and would not hire us, but they would say, what about when I have the amazing news of giving somebody their dream job? And of course, that is a. This was like, what, Clay? The one. The one season of high school soccer I coached. The greatest thing was the joy on the faces of the kids who wanted to make the team so bad and were marginal, who made it that there we had. I had a couple of, like, superstars who were gonna go play in college. I. I had two or three. I was like, well, these kids are, you know, they're. They're, like, better than I ever was. And they're freshmen. And then, you know, there were kids that were marginal. That was the greatest thing. The worst thing was the kids who teared up when they were close and didn't make it and I had to tell them, you know what I mean? That's the. So HR cuts both ways, right? Cause yeah, on the one side you get to tell people dream job. The other side it's. I know this would have been a life changing salary increase for you, but we. Anyway. So I think though in HR in particular, you're seeing AI is because it's large data sets, it's efficiency based and their AI is doing the job of a lot of HR people right now. And that is our. That is written about, that is clear that is happening. So what is HR really going to be doing? Because it's just going to. You're going to set your parameters. I need X amount of years of experience. I need, you know, I'm going to look prioritize the following schools, etc. Etc. You can have somebody do this now with 10,000 resumes and give you your top 10 resumes in 5 minutes, 3 minutes.
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Clay Travis
I think that's 100% right. I also think there's just a lot of pause on hiring on those jobs because companies are saying wait a minute, maybe we don't fill that opening that we have. Look, and here is the Elon has come out recently and said, hey, we're rapidly advancing to a world, I think he said the other day, where having a job will be like growing your own produce. People can choose to do it, but it's not going to be the standard. Now these are people who believe that AI is truly over the next 10, 15 years going to be transformative in a way that frankly most of us can't even comprehend and that we're gonna basically have to figure out a way to reorient society without working being a huge part of it.
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Buck Sexton
This, this is where I'm reminded of, of Naval, who I've mentioned several times before on the show, Silicon Valley guy, founder of Angel List. He's been on a lot of the big podcasts and I just think is a very interesting and sound thinker on, on things like this in particular. And he breaks this down clay into wealth versus status in society and wealth. And I think you very much take this approach in general. Like this is a part of your. We talked to this at WO Woe and they're asking what do you know about Claire? What do you know about Buck? I think you believe that there are ways that everybody can win and everybody can be doing better. And that's true about wealth. And anybody who denies that, all of you right now, who are, who are driving around in your car with your, you know, your venti Starbucks, hopefully your Crockett coffee, actually, but in your heated seats with your airbags on your iPhone. Everything else. You are living in a space age. Unimaginable future of wealth compared to what King Henry viii, like the actual king, would have had.
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
Your health care is better.
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Clay Travis
Health care. Live better now than the wealthiest people did 200 years ago, basically.
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Buck Sexton
Your health care is better. Your food is better, your, your comfort is better. Your bed. Got to get those sheets from, you know, I'm talking about cozy earth.
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Clay Travis
Cozy earth. Oh, yeah, King Henry viii.
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Buck Sexton
Henry viii, you know, he was robust. He didn't have cozy earth sheets. You got, you have incredible wealth. Status is I'm in a better place than you. Status is how do I stack up to him or her?
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
Status is a different thing. And he says that people should always separate those in their minds. And when you're talking about AI, you're talking about what should be able to be widely distributed increases on of societal and global wealth along the lines of what we're talking about, which is everybody has more, but it might get to the point where everybody has so much more that people start to hyper focus on what somebody next to them has instead of what they have. And this is where you get into whether people will be happy, whether people will be fulfilled by these things. Will you really be fulfilled if you have. I don't remember the name of the robotic maid from the Jetsons, but cleaning up everything, wrote thank you, Rosie. Making your food, cleaning up everything. You're still going to have wants and needs as a human being. You know, you're still, you know, this is, this is. By the way, Clay, I also think, and I put myself this category to. A lot of people have really earnestly gone back to their faith and gone back to church in recent years because I think they see, you know, chasing the material things. Material things may get really boring soon because everyone's going to have their material needs met.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. And for Christie, who called in, keep your head up. I have been fired multiple times. I've lost my jobs multiple times. I know how stressful that entire process is. I know there are lots of you out there in this camp and we hope again that, that you're going to find employment and all of you are going to find employment sooner rather than later. I do think at a big picture, part of what's going on is AI disruption that is starting to work its way through the economy. And Frank, frankly, I'm not smart enough to understand exactly what the full on ramifications of this are going to be. But some of the smartest people in the world believe that the next decade is going to be transformative on a level we may not even be able to comprehend right now.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, it may make the Internet look like small potatoes by comparison. Just one thing I would say for anyone who's listening, who's having trouble finding a job in my experience and I've had very different kinds of career, two very different careers really. And looked, I've worked in different kinds of things. So is clay and clay started companies especially now don't just rely on blind resumes. If you want to send those in, that's fine. You know, send them into that inbox. It could work. It could work. Talk to people. And I really mean that. You know, you're at, you're at a car dealership that seems like it's just really, really well run and you think you'd be good in sales. Talk to them. Yeah, just, just start. You don't have to be like, hey, I want a job. Just start. You know, start gathering that information, creating that contact with people. I think this is true for a whole range of things. But for finding a job, people get jobs from other people. You actually don't get a job from an email inbox.
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Buck Sexton
This is where mindset comes in.
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Someone will be eliminated.
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Clay Travis
Pressure is coming down.
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Clay Travis
Watch the trailer on trainer games.com did.
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Buck Sexton
Buck Sexton here and the entire Clan Buck show wish you and your family a warm Christmas season and a joyful new year. You're listening to the Best of Clay. Travis and Buck Sexton play ll. I think this whole conversation about Clay not carrying cash is his justification for not paying his sports bets to Sean Hannity. Clay, you owe Hannity money. You owe Hannity sports bet money.
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Clay Travis
I've lost every bet to Hannity and he's been talking about it lately. And I saw him in person on Thursday and I was just like, man, I didn't get A chance. I haven't been to the atm, so, you know, Sean left, left your wallet.
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Buck Sexton
In your other suit jacket. Is that where we are? Clay?
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Clay Travis
I had the tux, I had the tux on at the Patriot Awards. I'm not usually having the wallet in the tux pants. And so it's just tough timing for me. And yeah, that is, that is very, very funny. A lot of great reactions, by the way, pouring in on many different topics out there, including all of you people who love change, pocket change, all of you men out there with £10 of pocket change in one of your pockets, pulling down your pants. That's why you have to wear a belt buckle because the change is just overloading your, your pants, otherwise dragging you down. And let's see, I want to catch up with all of these. You know, I will say I was reading an article. The original silver buck in the, in the coins I believe stopped around 1960. And so an average quarter and half dollar I think is now worth if it's pre 1960 because we've seen precious metals prices go up to such an extent. I think if you find a half dollar or a quarter that is full silver, they're now actually worth over $3 each. And I don't want you to look to me to be your precious metals expert so you can do your own research. But they stopped making 100% silver coins. I believe it was sometime around 1960. And if you find them from before, they're actually worth way more than the face value of the coin. To try to win back coin aficionados out there.
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Buck Sexton
Well, you know, in ancient Rome they did this. They had initially in their coinage. Early Roman coins had silver. They were silver, they were made of silver and almost entirely. And then over time they started the debasement of their own coinage by putting less and less silver in the coins.
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Clay Travis
Didn't that also contribute to insane rates of lead poisoning the way that they made the coins back in the day? I think I'm correct about that in terms of the impact of coinage. But yes, that is typically what happens is you're debasing on a face value level the substance under which your currency is based. Michigan Tim, he says he's got a coin operated laundromat. Imagine the amount of coins he's collecting on a daily basis. Gigi, I own a coin operated laundromat. I sure hope they don't get rid of quarters. Well look, they're not going to get rid of them. The question is, and this topic came up because they are finishing the production of pennies. So pennies will continue to circulate. There just won't be new ones coming into the the overall coin release. And the reality is most people are still going to keep losing pennies in their couch cushions and eventually they will all vanish, but that's where they will be.
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Buck Sexton
You're enjoying the best of program with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
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Clay Travis
Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. We thank you for hanging out with all of us on a Thursday as the government is officially reopened. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. You can search out my name, Clay Travis. You can search out Buck Sexton. We've got an incredible network of shows that are distributed there as well. And go subscribe to our YouTube channel. This Week you have been seeing that I am now in a studio that does not look like the Wayne's World basement. There is bright lights, there is better graphics. And so you can check it out for yourself to see how things look there. Buck I was last night on with our friend Sean Hannity as the president was preparing to sign the bill to open the government back up.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, just, I think it's very big of Sean to have you on his show while you still owe him some cold hard cash. And, you know, Sean's a very nice guy. He's letting you get on his show even though there's an outstanding debt here.
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Clay Travis
It is true. I mean, I can honestly say I don't think I've ever been on any one show that I owed money to before. And Hannity has not broken any legs. He hasn't loan sharked me out. I haven't had, you know, anybody knocking on the door looking to collect. And fortunately for me, I, I don't carry around that much cash. So it's just, just been a thing. Like I saw Sean last week at the Patriot Awards, told him, I said, hey man, sorry I'm wearing a tux, I forgot to bring cash. And God forbid I had any change.
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Buck Sexton
We're lucky Hannity's a gentleman is all I'm saying.
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Clay Travis
We got a lot of emails from people out there that love pocket change, which we can have some fun with before the show is over. But they had to cover Phil time and so they had our friend Peter Doocy was on from the White House lawn and Sean was just asked him, hey, how much different is it for the media that cover the president now where basically you can ask questions all the time compared to Joe Biden where he might show up once a week and kind of mumble through things. And, and how do the media talk about that? I thought it was a good question. Here's an interesting answer where Doocy is like, man, I got to scramble to even find new questions to ask the President because he answers so many of them. Listen, it's totally backwards covering Joe Biden for four years and covering this president for almost a year now in that the Biden administration, at most you would see him once a week and you.
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Buck Sexton
Had like one sentence worth of a shouted question.
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Clay Travis
You could hope for a one word answer at best, and then I would have to make that last me a week or more, whether on the campaign trail or here at the White House.
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Buck Sexton
Whereas with this president, there's typically only.
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Clay Travis
One day a week that you don't see him. And you go in there with two pages of questions and he'll be rattling off answers and other people might ask your questions. And it's like, I don't think I have enough. You open up your phone, you go to Daily Mail. It's like, what else is happening today that I can ask the President about right now? I just thought that was really funny that Trump is answering so many questions about so many different topics that sometimes if you're in the Oval Office and preparing yourself to be asking him questions, he runs through the entire roster of questions. So you're going on dailymail.com to check and see what the latest news is. Maybe outkick.com. okay. A bunch of people want to weigh in. Buck, we got loaded lines all over the country. Let's go to Dave in Rochester, New York. We'll start with you, Dave. Fire away.
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Caller
Hey, guys. Love your show. So I think, I think you're missing the mark on the grocery store food desert. What's happened? There's so much theft, actually, that stores have to lock product up. I live in Rochester, New York, and there's, you know, Wegmans chain here in Rochester and they moved out of the city entirely, with the exception of one store due to theft.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Caller
And we've got two Walmarts in Rochester that basically have two law enforcement cars outside and shot spotters in the parking lot. So it's not that, you know, they don't want to buy stuff. It's that there's so much stuff, there's no profit to run a grocery store.
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Clay Travis
Well, thank you. It's, it's a combination of multiple factors. But what we were talking about in particular was the products that are sold in the grocery store, even when they are discounting, quote, unquote, healthy foods. The people who buy product still want to buy the unhealthy food.
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Buck Sexton
In other words, it's not an absence and people aren't. Aren't swiping all the charcuterie. I can, I can assure you that's not, that's not what's happening.
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Clay Travis
And also, we've talked about this quite a lot because the worst thing about a store shutting down in the, in the neighborhood is not only the lack of access to the store, oftentimes because of theft, it takes all those jobs out of the community. So you have to get on a bus or you have to get on public transit and go a decent distance to have a job.
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Buck Sexton
Look, you can see you can take a drive through any neighborhood, really, in America. And, you know, based on the businesses and kind of how the businesses look, you know, what the, what the vibe is around the business, what kind of a neighborhood you're in. Yes, you're in a neighborhood where the businesses have bars on the doors, bars on the windows. Even for like a 711 setup, it looks like there's a bank teller behind, you know, bulletproof glass, you're in. You're in bad shape. If there's a lot of check cashing places, if there's a lot of liquor stores, especially kind of depressing looking liquor stores, you're in bad shape. Right. We talk about what happened at some of these pharmacies when there were the BLM riots that, that would burn down these pharmacies, Clay. Some of those places, like Wall, you know, Walgreens, people actually get their food there. They get groceries that they'll go there to get, milk, they'll go there to get. So when those close down, it's not just, oh, I have to go further for my prescription or whatever. It's also adding to the lack of good food options. Look, I spent about a year and a half at the nypd and we would do. We were. We would do stakeouts. I mean, I know that sounds like I was. I would do steakouts, be in an unmarked car. I'd be there with a detective. And in some very, very sketchy neighborhoods, and, you know, people, you'd see, like, what they're buying and where they go, what the stores look like. You can tell in a lot of these stores what the average income of the people living in the neighborhood is just by what's. By the grab and go. Right by the register. Yeah, I'm telling, you know, if you're in a fancy. If you're in a fancy ish, or even a middle Class neighborhood. It's going to be like, you know, nice chocolate bars and things like that. If you're in a rough neighborhood, it's going to be off brand chips, it's going to be off brand whatever. And you know, you see these things playing out and people pick up on these signals in their own community and it's a shame because you should have pride in the businesses in your community and to your point also employers in your community which makes it, you know, a place that people feel more invested in as well.
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Clay Travis
No doubt. Joe in Naples, Florida. Joe, what you got for us?
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Caller
Gentlemen, I want to weigh in on the H1BS. For mid 70s through 2008. I ran a technology company in the Boston area. I was competing with half a dozen major computer companies, a lot of tech. I had to use H1BS because the American schools were not turning out the quality of engineer and mathematicians I needed. I used a couple of Germans, an Englishman and a Japanese among others. I put the issue down to in the 50s and 60s we had the big Eisenhower science and technology initiative in schools and that faded out by the mid-70s. Yeah, I used them. I, I wound up having to pay as much if not more to get qualified engineers, data scientists and math people.
- [31:02]
Clay Travis
And so you couldn't find, in your experience in Boston, you couldn't find Americans with. This was not a dollars decision for you necessarily. You couldn't find American born workers with the skill set you needed to have an effective company.
- [31:20]
Caller
I would go down to mit, I'm an alum of mit. I would go down there every interview opportunity and I might be able to get one engineer, one applied math guy because I was competing against IBM, Deck, Data, General, Wang, a whole bunch of other big boys they could, we got, we, we got MIT Northeastern bullets. The fight for qualified folks started very heavy in the late 70s, early 80s, the first five years of the business I could sort of find what I needed. But when the colleges started dumbing down grades and the government initiative on the space race and technology started going down, couldn't get them, just could not get the quality of engineer.
- [32:11]
Clay Travis
Thank you for the call and this is what I would say. Buck is somewhat of a clarion call for needing to graduate more American born students with skills in the so called hard sciences as opposed to the social sciences which tend to be easier and aren't as challenging. Jeff in Las Vegas you got to take for us, thanks for calling.
- [32:36]
Caller
For 30 years and when I started out all the recruiters, all the recruiters were American and as a contract Programmer. My life depends on recruiters. Now the majority are Indians. And not only that, I would say about 10 or 20% are calling from India. And I'd like to refute the first. The guy that just was on. I, I've been a VP director and I've hired programmers. I've hired Indian programmers and I've hired American programmers and American programs. Programmers are just as good, if not better. When I was at American Mutual Funds, American Mutual Funds is in Irvine, California, which is a big Indian community.
- [33:17]
Clay Travis
Now.
- [33:20]
Caller
There were floors and floors of Indians, but senior management, senior management, were all Americans getting bonuses. One last thing, just to show you how dumb American companies can be. I worked for Boeing for a while and when I was there, when they made a contract, when they made a deal with China. And the deal was that China would buy several hundred 747s if Boeing would agree to turn over all the engineering documents on the technologies that go into building 747s.
- [33:55]
Clay Travis
Guess what?
- [33:56]
Caller
Boeing made the deal. And one last thing. You guys have got one of the top shows in America. Use your show when you have, when you guys come up with great, great ideas, which you do all the time. Call these calls Chuck Schumer. Call, call these. Call aoc, call Crockett and live online. And if they're too cowardly, the answer, great, we'll all see it. They're all full of crap.
- [34:23]
Clay Travis
They won't. Thank you for the call. A lot of good comments there. They won't come on. And I think there's now a rule where we aren't allowed. I know this was an old school radio thing. You could just call people and try to get them online without, get them on air without saying who you are. And you would get them talking and then they find out, hey, we're talking to tons of people all over the city or all over the state or the nation. We have, we have extended offers to people across the political spectrum.
- [34:52]
Buck Sexton
A couple, a couple of things on this one is we would never get even. Forget about that rule, which I think you're right on that. But I'd have to look into it. We wouldn't get around their staff. They don't. Chuck Schumer. There's no, there's no like bat phone to Chuck Schumer. Well, at least we, we don't have it. We don't have that line where we could call in. So we're not going to get around his staff. And I honestly think a lot of the time there's a limited value with Some of these Democrats, they're just going to say, you know, Chuck Schumer would say it's about affordability, it's about health care. Donald Trump is wrecking the republic. You've already, you've already heard it all. And that's why I don't really, you know, we can pick and choose. Like Fetterman would be interesting because there's some areas where you could actually get to a place of some agreement, a little disagreement. There's a give and take with your run of the mill Democrat on a radio show. I mean, a Democrat politician on a radio show, they're just going to say what they always say. I mean, what they're saying on cnn, they're going to stay right on the talking points. So I just don't think it's very likely to be instructive or very good radio. Personally, if that wasn't the case, I think we would push more to get Democrats on. Plus Clay will yell at them like he did Mike Pence and then everyone will cry.
- [36:03]
Clay Travis
I would be, I would be very happy to get these guys on. They won't come on. I think it's because they just know that they don't have anything beyond talking points. And talking points in a three minute television hit might work in a 15 minute radio. It actually exposed. I can give you a preview of.
- [36:22]
Buck Sexton
Our, of our conversation with Chuck, our imaginary conversation with Chuck Schumer. I'd say Senator Schumer, so have premiums for the average American on the individual market gone up on average 100% or more over the last 10 years? And you know what his response would be? Donald Trump doesn't care about the working class and doesn't care about middle America. And we want to make sure your premiums are cheap. And I could repeat my qu. I could say it again, but sir, is it true? You know what he would say? Donald Trump doesn't care about the middle class. He's, you know, blah, blah. This is, this is why you don't really get very far with these people. So especially Schumer. He wouldn't even be fun.
- [37:00]
Clay Travis
He's actually really boring and not a great communicator, which is not ideal.
- [37:05]
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Buck Sexton
This is where mindset comes in.
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Clay Travis
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- [38:20]
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- [40:05]
Clay Travis
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- [40:13]
Buck Sexton
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got kind of a short one here to close out the show, so I just want to remind you, go subscribe to Crock a Coffee this holiday, holiday season, go to crockettcoffee.com click on subscribe. Get your best coffee beans anywhere. You get them ground, get them whole. You can get cake cups. Even got organic coffee. Got great gear, cool sweatshirts and things in the spirit of Davy Crockett. 10% of the profits goes to tunnel to Towers Foundation. And tomorrow I'm going to put out a marker. I want to talk about this tomorrow. The Open Table app, which I use less now that I'm a dad because, you know, it's a lot more time dealing with pulling pureed peas off the floor. You know, I mean, we're in that phase.
- [40:57]
Clay Travis
You don't get to go out to dinner as often as you used to.
- [41:00]
Buck Sexton
Yeah, we have to get a babysitter because also the dog and my baby have. They have a deal going where the dog now goes close to the highchair and knows that about 75% of the pureed food ends up on the ground. And so she's the cleanup crew. So I can't, I can't stop this, right? Because I'm like, well, it's kind of efficient, but that's what's going on. But Open Table, Clay, the app that everyone uses for reservations, Open Table, is collecting more than just where you like to eat on people. And I want to get into this. I, I actually, I'll tell you this, everybody. I think if you're a repeat canceler on restaurants for reservations, I think that should be taken into account. I think we should have something of a dining out social credit score. I know some of you are going to get so ticked off, but I'm into it, so we could talk about this.
- [41:47]
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- [42:07]
Buck Sexton
This is where mindset comes in.
- [42:09]
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- [42:11]
Clay Travis
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- [42:14]
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Clay Travis
Watch the trailer on trainergames.com did you.
- [42:18]
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- [42:48]
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- [43:17]
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- [44:28]
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- [45:03]
Caller
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- [45:06]
Buck Sexton
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