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Mike Lee
Thank you very much.
Buck Sexton
Can we just dive into this? Well, Clay, do we want to do judges and U.S. attorneys first? You want to do want to do the redistricting first? Because I got to ask you, what is going on here with the log jam on the judges and US Attorneys and what should we do about it?
Mike Lee
Look, we've got a confirmation backlog in the Senate. President Trump has sent hundreds of nominees over. We currently have a Senate confirmation backlog of about 150 people. Now, just day before yesterday, that number stood at 144. We're now approaching 150. We're adding to that basically every day the Senate's in session. And if we leave for August recess without meaningfully confronting this, then we're never going to catch up. And the result of that, it is awful because here's what happens. Remember the deep state bureaucrats, the career civil servant bureaucrats, are overwhelmingly leftist. They're overwhelmingly Democratic. So this is different than if the Democrats were in power and Republicans were delaying them. When that happens and a Democrat nominee doesn't get through, well, they still have a Democrat, a liberal Democrat in most cases, running the show at whatever executive branch agency they're putting them in because that's what the deep state bureaucrats are. But when it's Republicans, we're surrendering to the other party. We can't let that happen. Here's the thing. We've been blaming the Dems inappropriately. So they've been delaying. But we have to remember this is what minority parties have been doing in the Senate more or less since Harry Reid nuked the executive filibuster back in November of 2013. This is what they do. Now, Democrats do it to a more severe degree. We cooperated more with them than they are with us. But regardless, saying that they're doing it worse doesn't fix the problem. There is only one thing that fixes this problem in the modern Senate, in the modern Senate, which is the principle of exhaustion. We have to exhaust them into compliance. We have to keep them here until such time as we've cleared the backlog and we have to make them vote, including at inconvenient times and hours and weeks when they'd much rather be somewhere else. That is the only way to fix it. We keep them here, keep them voting, we end the backlog. If we don't, we surrender to the deep state and therefore the Democrats.
Clay Travis
By the way, let me mention this. The Fed, as we told you was likely going to be the case, has declined to lower interest rates, although there are dissenters from inside of the Fed saying, hey, we should be cutting rates. So just FYI, they have left interest rates unchanged. But that is the, that is the literally breaking news as we start the third hour of the program here. Okay, Senator, thanks for coming on. What is in your mind the solution? Because I was asking about how recess appointments might be applied. President Trump has not used the recess appointment opportunity. What are the disadvantages associated with doing that? And in a way that people like me can understand without going into all of the, just sort of the labyrinth of all of the different Senate parliamentarian aspects.
Mike Lee
Yeah. All right. So the biggest single disadvantage is that a recess appointment can't stay indefinitely. Under the Constitution, the recess appointee can remain in there. In essence, under current interpretations of that clause, they can stay in there. If they're recess appointed now, they could stay in there till the end of next year, till the end of 2026. It's the biggest disadvantage. But the other reason why President Trump hasn't used that is that more or less for the last decade plus, since at least around 2013, it started a bit before then, the Senate typically has been holding what are called pro forma sessions, even while purporting to go into recess, meaning reconvening every three days. One member comes in, gavels in, gavels out, in order to avoid the technicality of going into recess for constitutional purposes. In other words, these pro forma sessions basically serve one purpose, which is to prevent the President of the United States from making recess appointments. So that's the biggest disadvantage there is that we haven't made it possible. And that's why I've been saying the best thing for us to do. The only way I believe we're going to end the law jam and the impasse is for us to make the Democrats and Republicans stay here and cast votes, even when, especially when it's difficult or inconvenient or members would rather be somewhere else. It's the only surefire way to end this. Now, short of that, if the Senate unwisely decides to recess anyway, then for the love of Pete, we should actually recess and stop holding these pro forma sessions that have as their principal function preventing the president of the United States from exercising the recessed appointment power under the Constitution.
Buck Sexton
It feels like there's a lot of games going on here, Senator Lee, within these rules, and yet the blue slip rule is sacred. Can you give me a little more on this one? Because Trump obviously thinks that enough is enough with the blue slip nonsense.
Mike Lee
Yeah, I think that's, that's right. Now, to bring your audience up to speed, the blue slip in the Senate basically does the following for the way it works is that for a federal district judge, federal trial court level judge, for a U.S. attorney or U.S. marshal in somebody's state. The Senate Judiciary Committee has long refused to process a presidential nominee unless or until such time as the two home state senators have signed a document that is historically written out on blue paper. That's why we call it the blue slip, saying, I'm okay with these nominees. Now, the blue slip has been around for many decades. It is not mandated by statute. It's not imposed by rule. It is a custom. It is, moreover, not something that's been carved into stone tablets. It is not an inexorable command. And it has been modified in practice over many years, meaning when one side of the aisle abuses it consistently, it often morphs in order to accommodate that. Now, we've always had the understanding that if you push it too far, like any other privilege, it'll be taken away. I had the understanding in the last administration, for example, when dealing with the Obama administration, I knew that I had to make recommendations to them on district judges, U.S. attorneys, U.S. marshals, and so forth. I had to make my blue slip recommendations to them realistically and that I wasn't necessarily going to get away with recommending people who were lifelong well known, staunch, openly conservative, textualist, originalist, for example. We just understood that the nominees might be a little bit different than what we would pick, what we would prefer the president pick during a Republican administration. If the Democrats can't accept that and they consistently refuse to accommodate what are Trump's reasonable minimum expectations in their states, then I suspect that they can, should and probably will lose their blue slip privileges in many instances.
Clay Travis
We're talking to Senator Mike Lee of Utah. New revelations, potentially, according to Fox News, about documents involving Russia collusion that have been found by Cash Patel inside of FBI offices that were supposed to have been destroyed, that were not you, I think, were one of the top contenders to be Attorney General. So you are very, very well versed in the of justice. You have served, I believe, as a judge in your past life experience. You're a guy who's been involved in a lot of these things. What should happen as it pertains to Russia collusion based on the evidence you have seen? Not only what should, what do you think will, what should our audience expect to see and what should they see in your mind?
Mike Lee
But most importantly, the facts. The information will need to continue to come out. Remember, for the last eight, nine years, we have been told a consistent lie. We've been told that by the Democratic apparatus. We've been told that by the mainstream media, also known as the communications arm of the Democratic Party, we've been told lies about Russian collusion. Now, as Jonathan Turnley noted on Fox News the other day, there was in fact a, a collusive scandal at the close of 2016 related to Russia, but it just wasn't at all what we were told. There was a scandal there, there was collusion there. But remember, what happened here was that President Obama, according to these recent revelations, went in after the November 2016 election, after President Trump had been elected President of the United States, and directed the United States government officials in the room with him to go out and show, find evidence, develop evidence, manufacture evidence, manipulate evidence, however you want to put it, to demonstrate not if not whether, but how Russia impacted the outcome of the election and did so in Donald Trump's favor. That simply wasn't true. And in fact, they were messing with evidence. This is a horrific scandal. And based on what we've learned about this already, this is arguably the most significant political scandal in U.S. history. And I'm not even sure what the outcome will be because we don't have anything else to compare it to. But the most important part of it, there are all kinds of considerations from statutes to limitations to whatever it takes to get more information out of this that will have to be taken into account to know exactly who may be charged. But the most important thing is that the American people learn about it and then we get to the bottom of who knew what and when and hold them accountable for that.
Clay Travis
Senator Lee, we know you have to get out on the floor and get to work. We appreciate you fitness in to answer these questions we were talking about today. Keep up the good work and shoot me a text when you want to come on again. Need to get, need to talk to the audience.
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Will do.
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Tomi Lahren
Hey, it's great. We have a cabin up here and we're just enjoying, enjoying Colorado for the summer to get away from the Galveston heat.
Clay Travis
Yeah, a lot of y' all Texans flee the the weather there in Colorado and Texas is a big overlap. Utah too. We were just talking with Mike Lee with a lot of Texans. But you said you're chasing us everywhere the show. You can find us anywhere, right?
Tomi Lahren
We do and we love it. I was gonna call and say I had a big bone to pick with y' all because we used to listen to music in our car. And you know, we're big Beatle fans and everything. We like rock. But here in Colorado, whenever we're in the car, we're just so we listen to your entire show the time. The whole time we're in the car. We don't even listen to music anymore. What, what has happened? This is how great your show is.
Buck Sexton
Well, that's very kind.
Clay Travis
Amazing.
Buck Sexton
I'll borrow from the lead singer of Oasis. We're better than the Beatles. Remember that Clay? That guy got all that attention.
Tomi Lahren
You can't say that. No, no, no. My husband actually is from UK and where huge Beatle fans. We usually go to the Beatle fast.
Mike Lee
And stuff in Liverpool.
Clay Travis
I want to go say thank you for the call. By the way, you're in Galveston. Are you a Texas, are you a Texas A and M family? Who is the team.
Tomi Lahren
Texas A and M because both of our grandkids go to Texas A and M. It's a great place.
Clay Travis
Thank you for the call. College Station has blown up super fantastic. Compared to even in the last 15 years for my trips down there to watch games, it's a pretty great place.
Buck Sexton
Which, which college football game am I tagging along to this fall, by the way? Like, what's.
Clay Travis
This is the big deal.
Buck Sexton
Which one do you bring the Buckster to? Cause that obviously is the biggest showing.
Clay Travis
Yeah, you should come. Potentially. You haven't been to Knoxville yet. September 13th is Georgia at Tennessee. Lisa Booth, who was a part of the Clay and Buck Podcast network, went to the University of Tennessee and she is bringing her boyfriend, who has never been to, I believe, an SEC football game before. So he's coming in for that game. So we would already have a kind of a fun crew coming in. Again, Lisa went to ut, the real ut, not the one down in Texas, the one in Tennessee. And so, so she's going to be there. You can come September 13th, the biggest game in the SEC I would project this fall. Coming up, looking at the preseason, I'm also going to be at this one, Georgia Hosting Alabama on September 27th in Athens. You ever been to Athens?
Buck Sexton
I have not been to Athens. I've been to Athens, Greece. I've not been to Athens, Georgia.
Clay Travis
Well, that is, that's a very bucked.
Buck Sexton
That was a very buck moment I just realized there. Sorry. Yeah.
Clay Travis
Yes. No, I haven't been to Athens, Georgia. I've been to Athens, Greece. I haven't been to Greece. I have been to Athens, Georgia. And Athens is, is pretty fabulous. One of the great college towns in America. So you could also put that potentially on the, the radar now. That'll be a super tough ticket. I think Georgia, Tennessee will be a little bit easier because Tennessee hasn't beaten Georgia in a long time. We got a bunch of talkbacks, too. Let me scroll into the talkback universe. Also. A lot of you, thank you. Have managed to find the fat Clay and Buck photo with Tommy Lahren after we mentioned it, and it is now blown up. My timeline and I just have to say that's a Brooks Brothers polo that I'm in. I burned all of these polos after. I look like I weigh 250 pounds in this photo. I might be pregnant.
Buck Sexton
You do. You, you look like you have a, a, about a 48 inch waist on that one. And I look like I'm, I'm rocking about a, a B cup or a C cup in the photo. It is not a good photo, which neither of us Clay is not. I neither have man boobs nor does clay have a 48 inch or a 58 inch or 100 inch waist, whatever it is. Yeah.
Clay Travis
I don't even understand how Brooks Brothers, I think, is that polo that I burned. Why did they even design a shirt that looks like it could also double as a tent? And why did I wear this? And no one ever told me that I looked alike. You know, you gotta take.
Buck Sexton
I think you just gotta take the heat on this one with the angle. I don't think you can throw Brooks Brothers under the bus on this one. I don't, I don't think that that's. That's going to help. Help with.
Clay Travis
I don't think anybody would look good in this shirt. I don't know what people are thinking. Let me. I don't know what anybody's thinking. Let me even walk out in this thing, by the way. Let's see. Hold on, we got a bunch of talkbacks.
Buck Sexton
Oh, you want to. Do you want to do your friend from Worcester here?
Clay Travis
Clay, look what you've done.
Buck Sexton
Look what you've done.
Clay Travis
Yeah, let's Listen Brian and Worcester 94. 9 and News Radio 580 up there. He's calling BS on an earlier talker.
Mike Lee
All right, I'm gonna have to call.
Buck Sexton
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They just don't exist.
Clay Travis
I'm gonna have to throw a flag on Brian from Worcester and just say go to Las Vegas. Especially during the NCAA tournament when it is 95% male. There are a lot of Asian strippers in that town. I don't know about Worcester. It wouldn't shock me if Worcester. That sounds. I wouldn't think that it's necessarily an Asian hamlet strong suit. Maybe it is. I don't know.
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I will just remind everybody the word of the day is ameliorate. That's what, that's what I've got for you. All right, none of us. Yes, Tommy Laird.
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Next.
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Tomi Lahren
I'm not surprised at all at the outrage in the backlash. This is what the left does when they know they've lost. All right, They've lost the culture war. WOKE is dead and they are lashing out. And the charge is being led by objectively mediocre to less attractive liberal white women. And that usually seems to be the case for all the things that they complain about. It's led by liberal white women. But especially when you have a hot girl in an ad that really brings out the fangs, that brings out the claws, I'm not surprised at all.
Clay Travis
Okay? I am stunned, honestly, like I get because we hear so much about Democrats recognizing that they have lost men. I would say that overwhelmingly the one thing that unites men is an appreciation for pretty girls, heterosexual men anyway, which I understand there may not be very many in the Democrat party already. But if you're trying to just be normal and just be sane, complaining that an attractive person is used to sell clothes and trying to say it's like being a Nazi is next level crazy even for them. So you expected that when you saw this Sydney Sweeney ad, you were like, oh, left wingers are going to lose their mind, Tommy. The Atlantic has an article saying liking boobs is now conservative. This is a legitimate article that is up in that magazine.
Tomi Lahren
We may never lose an election again at this rate. Which is fine if they want to freak out over it. But no, I'm not surprised at all because the left, the Democrat Party has been completely captured by the activists and the WOKE class. They won't give any of these things up. They still go hard for Kilmara, Abrego Garcia. They go hard for men and women's sports, there is not a dumb hill that they will not continue to die on. They love this kind of stuff. I don't know who they're listening to. They're not listening to you guys. They're not listening to young men or even attractive young women. They are completely captured by the green hairs with gauges and septum piercings. That's who they think makes up the majority of this country, and they want to make them happy at all costs.
Buck Sexton
Tommy, you know, whenever I do a live event, if a woman under 35 approaches to take a photo or to say hi or something, generally, she says, do you know Tomi Lahren? And gets very excited when I say yes. So you certainly have. You certainly have your finger on the pulse of the conservative youth in this country. And I'm wondering, the vibe shift, as they would say, in the culture, where are the biggest places you are seeing it? Like, what are the things that you're seeing now that give you hope that the opposite of what we see with the Sydney Sweeney phenomenon is really taking root? That essentially that insanity is fading and culture is coming back in a way that we can all be proud of?
Tomi Lahren
Well, normalcy is coming back. People have realized, especially young people, they've realized that, no, they do want to be attractive and they do want to be healthy, and they want to be normal and they want to interact with people. Things go in cycles, of course, and it's not just fashion and style. But I will say the fashion and the style right now is kind of going back to the early 2000s. That's what's popular with Gen Z. They're resurrecting all the old clothes that I wore when I was in the fifth grade. And they think that's new. And that's fine with me because so has the normalcy. It's like, yes, no, we want to look good. No, we want to be normal. We want to talk to people. We don't want to have the color of hair of a green poison frog. We just want to be normal. So I think that you're still going to have the minority. That's very loud out there. And then, of course, on TikTok and voting for socialists. But those people live in deep blue cities like New York City or Los Angeles. They don't live in Tennessee. They don't live in Miami. There are normal people in those normal places, and I think they're taking over.
Clay Travis
Okay. A secondary part of this is the idea, and I know you saw the Good Morning America report so this is not some crazy left wing report in theory, right? You're sitting most people eating their cereal, watching Good Morning America today show. Good Morning America has on a report that this is code for Nazism because you have a blonde hair, blue eyed woman that is in this ad. How do we, and I do think this is significant because I think you kind of have hammered this. How do we get back to treating all races equally and not being able to just say basically white people are evil, which is the code of calling anything white related Nazi in relation. Right? What's going on here?
Tomi Lahren
Well, first of all, you need to stop apologizing for being white. And so the more that people say, hey listen, I'm not going to apologize to you because of the color of my skin. I don't expect you to do that. I'm not going to do that. Then we go back to some level of normalcy here. But that Good Morning America clip they had on an expert, of course, a professor. And I know you saw it, Clay, because you tweeted it out. But the professor that they had on ironically was a white woman who had blond hair, but there was an X factor. She was also objectively not attractive. So there you have it. That is who is driving this primarily. And then all the other people who maybe are not white liberal women that are upset, they were told to be upset by ugly white liberal women. And that is who is leading this. And it comes from a place of jealousy, it comes from a place of deep insecurity that they have to project and then they have to call it like academics or the study of history, but really it's self loathing. That's what it is.
Buck Sexton
Tommy, everybody can find you on FOX News. You're on all the time. But digital side, where can they go to see your show out?
Tomi Lahren
Kick Calm live, Monday through Friday, 1pm Eastern. And in a few minutes here, I'm going to pop on the story on FOX News. We're going to talk about mom Donnie. So never a dull moment. Thank you guys for having me.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, of course. Thanks, Tommy. The commie mom Donnie trying to ruin my hometown. Thanks, Tommy. You know, Clay, it is, it is remarkable that at this stage of the game, the corrective mechanisms that I thought were rusty, maybe malfunctioning, but still somewhat present within the Democrat machinery. They don't seem it's not working. They're going crazier in areas where it's costing them politically. That's the usually what they do is they're insane, but they hide it and they Pretend and they prevaricate and they do this halfway thing, right? That was Joe Biden's whole game. Oh, I'm good old Joe the choo choo riding, you know, I'm, you can trust me. And then he would just let far left wing governance, you know, the auto pan everything else. Democrats are doing crazy stuff right now. Like a nor a normal, well adjusted person sees how they're responding to the Sydney Sweeney ad and thinks Democrats are neither normal nor well adjusted.
Clay Travis
Well, and I think this is the challenge and Tommy kind of hit on this in general. But if you are trying to appeal to men and this is, I understand some of you are super in the weeds on policy related issues. And we have some of those conversations we just had Senator Mike Lee on to talk about why there's a logjam in the Senate with 135 different nominees going forward. Most people have no idea that's going on, right? Most people don't understand how Senate confirmation works. They don't understand how a judge gets appointed. They're just normal. And that's why I think that Good Morning America segment is important because you're, you know, mom and dad trying to get the kid ready for camp or kid ready for school or whatever it is, plop them down in front of it. You're eating cereal, you're rushing through the morning and suddenly you see a pretty girl in an ad for a jeans company and you have an expert on saying it. It is coding Nazism. I mean, we've got a story up at Outkick right now. One of ESPN's employees said, and I want to make sure I get this quote right because I couldn't quite believe that this was even real. This is somebody who talks about sports for a living. Buck, an ESPN writer said the new Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ad left him mortified. You work in sports and you go on social media and say because a girl, attractive girl in jeans left you mortified. The Atlantic says that Americans liking boobs is now trending conservative.
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People are going to think I'm kidding. I'm not kidding. Ok? I think if you did a macro level study of male politics in America, you would find it's not, this is, you know, a generalization. This is about the average. I think you would find that men of deficient and medically low testosterone overwhelmingly are far left wing in their politics. I think it is absolutely. I think it is real. I think somebody should do this study. I'm not kidding. I think if you're, you know, it depends on what your age level is, right? But if you're a guy in your, in your like 30s, 40s, and there you can get into like nanogram per deciliter and all this stuff, you know, if your number is like below 300, you're voting Democrat. You're absolutely voting Democrat.
Clay Travis
And look, I mean, age can factor in because obviously if you're listening to us and you're 80, naturally you're different.
Buck Sexton
But I'm saying if you're a guy 30 to 50, you have a medically deficient or close to a testosterone level and left wing politics, there's a very clear correlation, I think you'd find.
Clay Travis
Well, and this is where for what I do, I feel like I can sit down and talk to any guy in America and they may not agree with me on tax policy, they may not agree with me on judicial nominees, but we can connect on sports, we can connect on having an appreciation for attractive women, sometimes enjoying enjoying an adult beverage. Democrats have lost the ability to talk to these people. And I don't know if you saw this. Eric Swalwell, you know, he put up the video. They're trying to do gym ads and show themselves doing things. He challenged Greg Gutfeld to a bench press contest and said if Gutfeld beats him that he will withdraw from Congress. I just took the bet. I said, I will no longer do Fox News. If, if Eric Swalwell can out bench press me, I will stop doing Fox News hits an alternative. If I out bench press him, he has to drop out of Congress. Do you think he will take my bet? I bet not. But I think this is a, a cultural issue. And again, the politics being downstream from cultures, 100% right, guys now use being a Democrat as an insult. They, they, they basically say, oh, you're, you're a Democrat. You voted for Kamala. Younger men, that is one of the top insults you could be. When we were at that game between Georgia and Alabama last year at the Alabama frat houses, they had banners hanging outside saying, georgia fans vote for Kamala. Like, this is how much of an insult for young men even being a Democrat is.
Buck Sexton
This reminds me of, of when I was, when I was single in New York City and would come across women who worked in the performing arts, dancers. Not that kind of dancer, Clay. But, you know, they would do things like Broadway. And their. Broadway is maybe the most left wing thing in existence. I mean, Broadway is, they're, they're more left wing than the Marxist professors at like Berkeley. I mean, it's just crazy town. But they would sometimes, these women that I would come across, maybe on dates, would complain about men in the city and it's because they were searching for men who basically act like women. And then they wonder why they're so unhappy. The, the, you know, the so called male feminist, you know, who announces this on the first date, that's actually not. This goes against our biology as, as a human species. It doesn't make any sense.
Clay Travis
And also women, women just know this is true. If a man claims to be a feminist, run from him in the opposite direction as fast as you can. First of all, they almost never believe it. Secondly, they think the only way they can get you is by claiming to be male feminists. I'm telling you, run in the opposite direction from these people. You cannot trust them. I think a lot of women out there know exactly what I'm talking about. That is pro. I. If that is one of your leads, when you go to a date, guy sits down like, oh, I'm a male feminist. Just be like, check please, and leave it with him and get up and leave. He probably doesn't have the money to pay for it, by the way. Uh, it's hard for us to imagine living in places where bomb shelters are as common as gas stations or coffee shops. That's what it's like in Israel. Uh, I was over there in December. I saw the importance of these shelters and of how much difference just having a bomb shelter can make. Uh, and that is what the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews does. They build bomb shelters. They build protective devices on cars for first responders. They help to take care of people that otherwise can't take care of themselves in a time of perpetual war. As we talked about earlier, New York Times spreading lies with a picture of a kid that wasn't actually being malnourished and trying to blame Israel for the situation in Gaza. You need and can help to make a difference in the Holy Land by reaching out and making a gift. You can call 888-488-IFCJ. That's 888488 IFCJ. You can also go online at ifcj.org that's ifcj.org keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history. On the Team 47 podcast. Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show. Lots of fun. Rolling in on a variety of different perspectives. All right, let's see. Let's take some of your talk backs. Ali says that that Rush would have loved the controversy surrounding Sydney Sweeney because one of his undeniable truths, feminism, was established so to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society. Boom. And I think he would have loved all of this chaos and certainly would have loved the Trump election and everything that's followed the last six months. Uh, Bill in New Jersey. To be fair, Buck and I, worst photo ever. It is now circulating again thanks to me bringing it up with Tommy Lahren. Nobody notices the pretty girl between us. They just noticed the fat slobs on either side of her. Bill, thanks for having our back. W o r listener ee Clay Buck Bill in New Jersey. Come on, fellas. You know a picture adds ten pounds.
Mike Lee
I don't know.
Clay Travis
I think he's having some fun.
Buck Sexton
I think he's having some fun at our expense.
Clay Travis
I'm okay with 10 pounds. I look like I added 150 pounds in this. In this photo. I don't. I think, again, humbly, honestly, to be.
Buck Sexton
Fair, Clay, you look like you could be wearing a loincloth with a man bun trying to shove another large man out of a circular ring. That is true.
Clay Travis
I could be carrying quadruplets based on that picture. Chris in Tampa, Florida, FF News Radio, wfla. What you got for us?
Buck Sexton
Has anybody picked up on the fact that they might have been making fun of Sydney in that ad, that she didn't know how to spell jeans? You know, one of them dumb blonde jokes.
Clay Travis
No, no.
Mike Lee
Sorry.
Clay Travis
No.
Buck Sexton
We love you, buddy, but no, that's.
Clay Travis
That's a. I don't think. I don't think that that subtlety escaped. They picked up really pretty girl to sell gear. They made a pun between jeans and jeans. I don't even. The whole idea that people don't talk about good genes. G E N E S. Everybody, like everybody who has children, says, oh, you got grandma's blue eyes. You got your dad's sense of humor. Hopefully you got your mom's looks. I mean, this is very basic stuff. And nobody, when you talk about it, says, oh, my goodness, this is eugenics, this is Nazism. You tend to look somewhat like your mom and somewhat like your dad. That's how there's a. Biology works.
Buck Sexton
This is a broader philosophical discussion which we can't have in about 40 seconds before the show ends. But the leftist mindset is that the state can make us all exactly the same.
Clay Travis
Right?
Buck Sexton
It's that sameness and collectivist. And so the reality of biology and genetics is bothersome to. To the left because we don't all have the same gift. Some of us are better looking than others, some of us are taller than others, some of us are smarter than others. And a lot of that is at birth, a lot of it. Especially the tallness thing. And look at Jesse Kelly. You think. You think he's. You think he's 7 foot 4 because he's such a great guy. He won the genetics lottery on that one.
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Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H3 - Tomi Lahren is Not a Nazi
Release Date: August 2, 2025
The episode kicks off with hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton welcoming Senator Mike Lee of Utah to discuss pressing political issues.
“Senator Lee, thanks for joining us on the fly, sir. Appreciate you.”
— Clay Travis [02:52]
Topic Overview:
Senator Lee addresses the growing backlog in Senate confirmations, highlighting the challenges posed by the current legislative environment.
Key Points:
Backlog Statistics: The Senate faces a confirmation backlog of approximately 150 nominees, a number that's steadily increasing as sessions progress.
“President Trump has sent hundreds of nominees over. We currently have a Senate confirmation backlog of about 150 people.”
— Senator Mike Lee [03:11]
Impact of the Backlog: Delays in confirmations empower "deep state bureaucrats," predominantly left-leaning career officials, to maintain control within executive agencies.
“We can't let that happen. We have to exhaust them into compliance.”
— Senator Mike Lee [04:15]
Proposed Solution: The principle of exhaustion is suggested as the remedy, urging the Senate to remain in session and push for votes even during inconvenient times to clear the backlog.
“We keep them here, keep them voting, we end the backlog.”
— Senator Mike Lee [05:08]
Discussion Highlights: Clay brings up the Federal Reserve's decision to keep interest rates unchanged, noting it as breaking news. He then probes Senator Lee about the potential use of recess appointments by President Trump.
“What are the disadvantages associated with doing that?”
— Clay Travis [05:35]
Senator Lee Explains Recess Appointments:
Temporary Nature: Recess appointees cannot hold their positions indefinitely, typically lasting until the end of the next year.
“Under the Constitution, the recess appointee can remain in there till the end of next year, till the end of 2026.”
— Senator Mike Lee [06:06]
Senate Tactics: Current Senate tactics involve holding pro forma sessions to prevent recess periods, thereby blocking the President's ability to make appointments.
“These pro forma sessions basically serve one purpose, which is to prevent the President... from exercising the recessed appointment power.”
— Senator Mike Lee [06:26]
Topic Overview:
The discussion shifts to recent revelations about documents related to Russia collusion found within FBI offices, raising questions about their destruction protocols.
Key Points:
Allegations of Manipulated Evidence: Senator Lee alleges that President Obama directed officials to fabricate evidence regarding Russia's impact on the 2016 election, a claim he describes as a "horrific scandal."
“President Obama... directed the United States government officials... to manufacture evidence... to demonstrate how Russia impacted the outcome of the election and did so in Donald Trump's favor.”
— Senator Mike Lee [10:58]
Call for Transparency: Emphasis on the necessity for the American public to uncover the truth and hold responsible parties accountable.
“The most important thing is that the American people learn about it and then we get to the bottom of who knew what and when and hold them accountable for that.”
— Senator Mike Lee [12:30]
As Senator Lee departs, the hosts introduce Tomi Lahren, a well-known conservative commentator, to discuss the cultural backlash surrounding a new advertisement featuring Sydney Sweeney for American Eagle.
Topic Overview:
Tomi Lahren joins the show to dissect the media's overreaction to an advertisement featuring actress Sydney Sweeney, which sparked accusations of promoting Nazi ideology.
Key Points:
Outrage from the Left: Lahren explains that the backlash is a typical reaction from the left when they feel defeated in cultural debates.
“This is what the left does when they know they've lost. All right, They've lost the culture war. WOKE is dead and they are lashing out.”
— Tomi Lahren [26:37]
Critique of Liberal Women: She criticizes liberal white women, labeling them as the primary drivers of such controversies, fueled by jealousy and insecurity.
“It's driven by jealousy, it comes from a place of deep insecurity that they have to project and then they have to call it like academics or the study of history, but really it's self loathing.”
— Tomi Lahren [31:13]
Return to Normalcy: Lahren observes a shift towards normalcy among younger generations, rejecting extreme liberal ideologies in favor of traditional values and attractiveness.
“Normalcy is coming back. People have realized, especially young people, they've realized that, no, they do want to be attractive and they do want to be healthy, and they want to be normal.”
— Tomi Lahren [29:25]
Discussion Highlights: Clay questions how media narratives, like those from Good Morning America, unfairly label conservative-friendly content as Nazi ideology.
“How do we get back to treating all races equally and not being able to just say basically white people are evil, which is the code of calling anything white related Nazi in relation.”
— Clay Travis [30:24]
Lahren responds by urging white individuals to stop apologizing for their race and criticizes the portrayal of white individuals by biased media experts.
“You need to stop apologizing for being white. And so the more that people say, hey listen, I'm not going to apologize to you because of the color of my skin. I don't expect you to do that.”
— Tomi Lahren [31:13]
Topic Overview:
The conversation delves into broader cultural and political dynamics, exploring how societal values are shifting and the impact on political affiliations.
Key Points:
Impact of Testosterone Levels on Politics: Buck Sexton posits a correlation between low testosterone levels in men and a tendency to lean left politically.
“If you're a guy in your 30s, 40s... if your number is like below 300, you're voting Democrat.”
— Buck Sexton [35:58]
Gender Relations and Feminism: Discussions touch upon the challenges in male-female interactions, with Clay advising men to avoid dating those who identify as male feminists.
“If a man claims to be a feminist, run from him in the opposite direction as fast as you can.”
— Clay Travis [38:18]
Defense Preparedness: Transitioning from cultural topics, Clay emphasizes the importance of physical preparedness for emergencies, highlighting the role of organizations like the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews in building bomb shelters.
“I was over there in December. I saw the importance of these shelters and of how much difference just having a bomb shelter can make.”
— Clay Travis [39:03]
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with listener feedback, sharing humorous anecdotes and self-deprecating jokes about their appearance in circulating photos.
“You do. You, you look like you have the about a 48 inch waist on that one.”
— Buck Sexton [23:38]
“I could be carrying quadruplets based on that picture.”
— Clay Travis [46:18]
These interactions add a personable and relatable dimension to the show, balancing the heavy political discourse with moments of levity.
The episode concludes with closing remarks from the hosts, reiterating key points and engaging in further light-hearted conversations. Sponsor messages are present but are intentionally skipped in this summary as per guidelines.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
“We can't let that happen. We have to exhaust them into compliance.”
— Senator Mike Lee [04:15]
“This is what the left does when they know they've lost. All right, They've lost the culture war. WOKE is dead and they are lashing out.”
— Tomi Lahren [26:37]
“Normalcy is coming back. People have realized, especially young people, they've realized that, no, they do want to be attractive and they do want to be healthy, and they want to be normal.”
— Tomi Lahren [29:25]
“If you're a guy in your 30s, 40s... if your number is like below 300, you're voting Democrat.”
— Buck Sexton [35:58]
“If a man claims to be a feminist, run from him in the opposite direction as fast as you can.”
— Clay Travis [38:18]
This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show offers a deep dive into the current political stalemate within the Senate, critiques of media narratives, and cultural shifts affecting political affiliations. With insightful discussions from Senator Mike Lee and firsthand perspectives from Tomi Lahren, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of the complexities shaping today's political landscape.