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Alex Berenson
It's good to talk to you, Buck. How are you?
Ryan Seacrest
I'm. I'm on the mend, my friend. A little. Little touch of the norovirus, I think a couple of days ago I talked to you.
Alex Berenson
You're sick.
Ryan Seacrest
You know what? I gotta tell you, I'm pulling long hours. I got a baby. You know, there's a lot of things going on over here. It's pretty crazy. So tell me, speaking of sick. COVID vaccine for healthy children. Healthy pregnant women removed from CDC immunization schedule. I had to kind of laugh because on the front page. So the CDC removes it from the schedule. And I think it was the New York Times on the front page today was, should they be removing this from the schedule? I'm like, I remember when the notion of the CDC should be questioned was a horrible crime against humanity. What do you think?
Alex Berenson
I mean, I'm actually. I'm actually frustrated and I really want to write about this today on the stack, but I'm working on, like, a story that's in some that I think is even more important. But, but, but I, I think, you know, I think that the fda, you know, the, you know, the new guys in charge are. They're very serious, you know, the CDC and, you know, and also Robert Kennedy and Jay Bhattacharya, who's at nih. I think, I think it's a good new regime and I think they want to do the right things. But I feel like in this case, they didn't go nearly far enough. Right. I mean, this is what they should be worried about is whether the COVID vaccine works for anybody and certainly whether it works for essentially any adult under 65. And so what did they do last week, the FDA said, well, we're going to require new trials that effectively are going to mean the vaccine is not going to be available for healthy adults under 65, because the companies are never going to run these new trials. Okay, that sounds like a big move. But then you see how they defined healthy. And at least 80% of the American population, maybe 75, maybe 80%, probably doesn't fit as healthy under the categories. So they didn't really do anything to reduce vaccine availability because none of those people, the people in the healthy category, were getting it anyway. And the CDC is more of the same. And. Okay, so you want to say they took a small step and it's a small step in the right direction. I agree with that. The problem is, look at the pushback that they've gotten today and that they got last week. The FDA got last week. The CDC is getting today. They do nothing, almost nothing. They take the smallest possible step, the most scientifically valid step, and you have these people screaming as if they're throwing babies off a bridge. They cannot win. So they should have done the right thing, which was gone a lot further.
Ryan Seacrest
This is amazing. I mean, I'm even seeing here like, like Jerome Adams, I'm seeing some others here on, on Twitter who are seeming to take the, you know, he's, he's a, he's an md, Right. Seeming to take the position. Yeah. The Surgeon General seeming to take the position that the little tiny step that you, that you've said, that you've laid out here is somehow controversial. Is that so? Here's my feeling on this, Alex. The same way that I think there has been an oh my gosh, and that's one way of putting it, because I'm on radio and oh my, you know, whatever, bleep it moment or a holy cow moment about the COVID up of Biden's dementia by what we consider the kind of establishment, D.C. press corps. Right. You know, if you were esta, if you were ap, New York Times, good on the list, you just kind of went along with this whole thing and didn't care. Cnn, the whole thing. And now they realize, wow, this is. If we actually just go forward with this and everyone figures this out, or rather everyone knows this and we've admitted it, that could really hurt our long term credibility. I wonder if some of these people in what I would consider institutional medicine, places like the cd, not even medicine kind of health policy. Right. Places like the cdc, if they feel like their only choice is to dig in. Because what happens to these places if Everyone finally says, oh, wow, they were wrong about it and officially wrong about it.
Alex Berenson
Right? But here's so again, like, I knew there was going to be pushback just because there are people out there who just don't. I mean, a lot of people out there in the public health community who don't want to admit the truth, who aren't close to admitting the truth, you know. And again, we're talking about policies that don't go nearly as far the new policies as the Europeans have been for two or three years. Okay? These are not radical policies. A radical policy would be these vaccines are being pulled until we run a new trial. With the situation as it is now where everybody has had Covid already, where Omicron appears to be milder and where we don't know the results of long term repeated MRNA dosing, that's what I would do. Okay? I would have done that for everybody, including people over 75. I would have said, at this point we have what's called clinical equipoise, where we just don't know if these things work at all. And that justifies a totally new clinical trial for everybody. Okay? They didn't do anything like that. And there are people who would have gone even further than that. Let's basically take it all the way back to phase one for these and do the proper preclinical studies on animals that were, know, never done or rushed back in 2020. Okay? They don't do any of that and they don't get any credit for standing, you know, sort of in the middle. So if I'm rfk, like, I don't expect anything different from public health. If I'm Vinay Prasad, who's the new top vaccine regulator at the fda, and I know Vinay and he's very smart and he, and he does not have a lot of confidence in the mRNA's, I would say. I mean, he may think that they're decent for older people, but he doesn't have blinders on about how well they work. Okay? They're just afraid of the pushback. And since they got all the pushback anyway, they might as well have done the right thing. And so again, I expect nothing from these public health people because we've seen how they've behaved for the last five years. But I would hope that the people we, we elected to fix this would push them a little bit harder.
Ryan Seacrest
Alex, also on the regulatory issues and when you look at Big pharma and where RFK Jr is going to play into this, and obviously, you know, fda, cdc, these different agencies all have some role or some, some say, I think, in the trajectory of some of the big health programs and health discovery projects that are out there. I thought this is really interesting. You pointed out on Twitter that, that the GLPs, which are amazing drugs, and you hear all these stories are not just about people with weight loss, but also helps with gambling addiction and helps with alcoholism. It's essentially a. It can curb the biochemistry in somebody that leads to overconsumption, which is a primary cause of most of our really bad diseases in this country. I mean, that's just the truth, right? I mean, the obesity epidemic and, and heart disease and all these things, it's all tied in. But that, that's an old drug, that they did the right way and that lately, you know, are the pharma companies not doing the same kind of discovery and the same kinds of new drug, you know, finding that we've hoped that they've been doing all along? I mean, where do you come down on that?
Alex Berenson
So, yeah, I mean, this is something else I really want to write about. This is one of these, you know, I want to write a book about, you know, sort of addictive behaviors and drugs. I want to wr another John Wells level. I want to write a book about this too. And I don't know that I will ever have time to. But it is an incredibly important issue. And that is, it's not that the company. I think if you run a drug company, you hope to find good drugs, okay? You hope to find drugs that help people that don't have terrible side effects, that, you know, treat the condition that you're aiming at, okay? And in a perfect world, you hope that those are not too expensive. I mean, obviously the companies want to make money, but so in like from about 1950, in 1960 through about 2000, what you would call the golden age of pharma and of small molecule drug discovery. These were simple chemicals, okay? You put them, they were usually taken in pill form. They were, they did things that were relatively straightforward. I'm going to reduce your blood pressure, I'm going to reduce your cholesterol. You know, sometimes it was a little more complicated. Like, I'm going to reduce, you know, insulin predates that, but I'm going to help your pancreas work better and make more insulin, okay? These, these are, these are, you know, they're complicated. But a reasonable person can understand how a drug like that works in a, you know, in a pretty straightforward way. And then the drugs would go off patent and they. And there were pills, right? And a million or 2 million or 5 million Americans would take them, and they cost a few dollars a year. And if, you know, 3 million people take that, that's $3 billion a year. That's decent. That's good money. Okay. Those drugs have all been found. They've all pretty much been found for the drugs that work the way I'm talking about. And in some ways, the GLPs are actually the last of these drugs where it's a pretty straightforward receptor, and you just need to figure out how to activate it. And you can actually see that companies are trying to find drugs that won't be injectable but will do the. At the injectable GLPs like Ozempic do. What they're stuck with now is far more complicated. They're stuck with autoimmune diseases. They're stuck with cancer. I mean, and those are really the big two, and those are smaller patient populations. They tend to be pretty sick. And the drugs are usually what are called biologics, which means they're actually grown oftentimes in mouse cells, and they have, like, a specific protein that interacts with a complicated receptor that a small molecule just won't work on. So these are really complicated drugs. They're really expensive. The conditions they treat are really complicated, and they tend not to really work that well or they have big side effects, even. There's a drug called Keytruda, which is now the biggest selling drug in the world. Merck sells 30 billion of it a year. It's an oncology drug. It's a drug for cancer. Does it work? Yes, it works. It will help people prolong life. But cancer is still incredibly lethal. And if you get a couple of extra years out of Keytruda, you're doing well, and that's a good thing. I wouldn't deny that to somebody. But this is a drug that costs $100,000 a year, and it is the best example of any of these drugs. So we have an industry now where all the easy stuff has been found. And guess what? The companies don't want to go away. They're big companies, lots of people working for them. They pay their executives a lot of money. So they're doing what they have to do, which is trying to find stuff for these really complicated conditions that's really expensive. Unfortunately, as a society, what it means is that we're paying now almost a half trillion dollars a year, half trillion for drugs that are pretty much marginally efficacious that only a few People are getting. If I showed you the list, and this is really the simplest way to look at this. If I showed you the list of the top selling drugs in 2004, you would know the names of those drugs. It's like Lipitor or Prozac. You know what those drugs were. Okay.
Ryan Seacrest
And those drugs work, by the way. I mean, you know, Lipitor is really important for people who need it.
Alex Berenson
Yeah, that's right. The statins really work. Okay. They work the best of, I think of all the major big drug categories that we've invented in the last 50 years. But if you look now, unless you have like psoriasis and those drugs are pretty heavily advertised, a lot of the drugs are psoriasis drugs or you have cancer, I mean psoriasis or other autoimmune diseases like, like arthritis. If you, unless you have one of those diseases, you've never heard of any of these drugs. And we as a society now are spending more and more on drugs that are for a tiny fraction of the population.
Ryan Seacrest
A couple of things, Alex, because we have a. We're going to run. I just want to ask you about this.
Alex Berenson
You got me going.
Ryan Seacrest
No, no, no. Look, I find this fascinating. I think the audience probably does too, because this really matters to all of us in our long term health. But CRISPR technology, AI do these things offer ways forward that can break what feels like this logjam. I mean, you're talking to somebody. I have celiac disease and I actually used to follow a few companies that were doing trials on how to cure because it's really annoying and it actually creates a lot of like long term challenges and problems for people. Even if you do the gluten free thing because you can never do it perfectly. And anyway, and they just, it's just total fail. Like every, every company has tried, every company so far tried to do anything, like nothing, zero efficacy whatsoever. Does AI do, does CRISPR technology, which is gene editing for, to modify DNA sequences, does that offer a breakthrough to the log jam?
Alex Berenson
I don't think so. And we'll see. I mean, I hope so. Okay. But, but you know, we, we, we, we figured out the human genome over 20 years ago. Okay. And we are just at the beginning after a massive investment of getting drugs that are really for this or gene editing for the simplest of these diseases, which are essentially single, you know, modifications. Right. But to do this, you know, a disease like schizophrenia or autism, these diseases that are very complicated and have genetic and environmental factors, like there's not one gene you can swap out and say everybody's better now. That's not how this works. And so the, you know, AI is even more. It's like, well, we're going to make something that hits the receptor just right and doesn't have any off target side effects. You know, wake me when it actually happens because it has not happened yet.
Ryan Seacrest
Well, I think you got to write a book on this. Alex, go check out Unreported Truths on Substack. And Alex, always appreciate you making the time for us.
Alex Berenson
Buck. Thanks for having me. Sorry you got me going.
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We're gonna talk about this feud, this battle between the Trump administration and Harvard that continues to play out. And I like this, and not just because I went to Amherst, which is a different school in which a lot of people say Amherst and Williams is where you go if you don't get into Harvard, Princeton or Yale. That was always the mean joke that they would say. But I think they should, you know, they should feel free to do this to Amherst as well. I don't care. All of these schools that get any kind of federal research money, Harvard is the big target on this. This should, this should be the reckoning that we have been waiting for a long time. I will dive into this in a moment and make my case to you for why this actually makes a lot of sense and it's important. There is a need to shake things up, to change things here with these universities. And when you understand how important this is, remember anything that you do that is good that the left hates, they're going to scream and kick about. And they're certainly doing that with this. Also. Here's a fun talk back Clay is in Orlando and Jeff is in Orlando. Our listener here, this is what he says a a talk back. Play it.
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And I see this particularly on X, formerly known as Twitter, where you'll have people say but what about when they want to do this to a conservative college? And then I always want to say, are you paying attention? What is the conservative college that's getting hundreds of millions of dollars from the Federal government, it doesn't exist. Right. So, you know, this is, it's so funny. There's this assumption, oh, but they'll do stuff to us too. No, no, no, They've already been doing this stuff. That's the point. It's a little bit like Trump's approach to China on trade. People go, no, you can't do anything to China. What if they start doing bad things to us on trade? In response, they're already doing bad stuff to us as much as they really can on trade. It's just a question of are we willing to do something back so that they stop or that there's at least some cost to this. That's the attitude, that's the mentality people should have, certainly on the right, about what's going on with Harvard. And also understand this, like, why did Barack Obama go to Harvard Law School and was the editor of Harvard Law Review? Even though I don't think he ever wrote anything at Harvard Law Review or if he did, it was like one thing. So they just, you know, he was a figurehead after going to Occidental College for undergrad for a while, and then he transferred to Columbia. Anyway, I remember the Obama bio pretty well. Why did he go to Harvard? Well, he went to Harvard because the whole point is you go there and you're supposed to be really smart and the elite and in charge. Right? Well, Harvard had created over a long period of time, and I think Harvard used to be, I'm sure, a great place, but over, I would say, the last 40 years or so in the affirmative action era and the era of the left wing ascendancy on campus, that it's not, I know there's always been left wing stuff on campus. People say, what about the 60s protests? Well, it turned into everything became left. I mean, I haven't really spent any time on a college campus since I was an undergrad myself 20 years ago. But, you know, they were constantly comparing Bush to Hitler. That was a thing. People forget this now. They compare Trump to Hitler now, but they used to actually say because of Afghanistan and Iraq wars, that Trump was Hitler. These people are nuts. But the left wing completely overran these campuses and there was really nothing left. And they enforced doctrine with the zeal of the Stasi in East Germany. I mean, they really make it so that if you say things that are unapproved, they just make your life really uncomfortable. They kick you off campus. So there's already. They're doing the bad stuff. Here is Trump, by the way. I'll Continue on with this line of argument, but here is Trump, this is cut23 talking about the Harvard fight. Play it. They look, Harvard has been a disaster. They've taken five plus, by the way, $5 billion plus 5 billion. Nobody knew that they were making this cut. If we didn't do this, nobody would have, we would have never found this out. Pam, they're taking $5 billion and I'd rather see that money go to trade schools. And by the way, they're totally anti Semitic at Harvard, as you know, and some other colleges too, in all fairness to them. And it's been exposed, very exposed more specifically on the college campuses on that issue of the anti Semitism, as I've been saying all along. And I think this has now become something that we discuss and this show is somewhat known for putting out there. I'd never heard anyone else make the argument before I made it here on this program, talking with Clay on the air about how the American left views Israel, Palestine as a race conflict, conflict essentially. And that the, all the stuff about all 1948 and 1967 and UN Resolution 242 and 338 and the Balfour Declaration, all these things that you can. No, no, no, it's white people oppressing brown people. That's what the campuses think and that's why you have all these groups that know nothing and care nothing about the Middle east that are so very, you know, they get to be super sanctimonious, super self righteous. The virtue signaling can be off the charts and you have people talking about how much they care about Gaza. I would note I've seen some left, some left wing media types in the last few days bringing, you've seen this, bringing up Sudan. Where have you, where have you heard that talked about other than on this program? Right. Just saying we're ahead on a lot of this stuff. We were saying here that the left views the Israel, Palestine or you know, Hamas, Israel thing as a race conflict because that fits into the very neat boxes that they set up in their minds of how these, even though that's, I mean it's wrong on the facts, it's just, it's absurd. But that's how they view it and that's why they feel so morally superior even when they know nothing about it. And they, they just inherently think non white means oppressed. That's, that's just their view. That's what they've been. Because on campus that's what you're told. Non white, oppressed, doesn't matter you could be one of the richest athletes in the world. You could be the President of the United States. Non white, oppressed. That is a, a the, really the, I think the central ethos that holds the left together and the Democrat Party overall. That is the thing that, you know, collectivism, moral relativism and you know, and this whole notion of what is not what is non white or who, those who are non white are inherently oppressed. So that's, that's a big part of what you see going on on the Harvard campuses. That is a, all these college campuses is a major aspect of it. But then I also get back to this because people say, well, why, you know, what's Harvard supposed to do? Trump's gonna, Trump is not saying, you know, you better start teaching things in that Shakespeare 101 class the way I want you to. Or else this school, by our own Supreme Court's ruling, which looked directly at Harvard I might add, that's why Harvard is in the crosshairs. This school is engaged in racial discrimination. That is what is going on. It is clear as day. If Harvard said, as a matter of policy, we will no longer take anybody who is, you know, Hispanic. Let's just put that out there for a second. If Harvard just said, sorry, we'll take everybody except the Hispanics, or if we're going to take Hispanics, they have to have perfect SATs, perfect grades and be in the like the, the one percentile to even consider getting in here of all of our applicants, not like nationally. And that's the way it's going to be. People would say, well, hold on a second, that's not right. Why, why have you created a specific, a specific entry requirement for people based on their ethnicity, their, their skin color? That's wrong. And they, they would be right. I think that it was this recognition back when I was in high school and I had a kind of unique experience because I was in a very academically rigorous scholarship high school where most of the students, you know, I came from a comfortable background. I had a successful, you know, Wall street dad, but I was, you know, not, not some super rich kid or anything. But a lot of the kids there came from low income and sort of lower middle income households and a lot of them were white. And this was the thing. And when they would apply to schools and because everybody knew too. It was a very intense pressure cooker kind of a school academically and everyone knew who was like the top in the class and who was, you know, who was going to be. It was 130 kids, I would say, in my class. And, you know, we knew who the top 10 kids were. And we. And if you were a top 10 kid and you were white or Asian, we had a lot of Filipinos, a lot of South Koreans, because you had to be Catholic to go. So not a lot. No one, really, that I can remember from, like, mainland China, but we had a lot of Filipinos, obviously, a big Catholic population. South Koreans is a robust Catholic population there, too. And I just remember if you were white or one of the Asian kids, even if you were top 10 or top 20 in the whole class, which meant you were, you know, it had to be a National Merit Scholar, no question. You know, you. You would have been the top of any school anywhere in the country. I mean, I think Regis has, like, the. I don't know. I mean, it was. The Stuyvesant kids always say they have higher average SATs, but we were right there. And Stuyvesant's, like, number three in the country or something. So some of the sty people are probably listening. Yeah, we beat you. Maybe you did. But if you were Asian, if you were Hispanic or black, and you were the number, like, 50 kid, it was, which Ivy League school do you want to go to? And I remember looking at that and recognizing that phenomenon and saying, that's just not right. It's very straightforward. Just not right. And people would say, oh, but what about the legacy of slavery? Okay, well, first of all, I still disagree that that means that today in, you know, the year 2025. But put that aside for a second. So why the Latino kids? Why are they. And this is explicitly by the numbers, Harvard does this. Harvard discriminates on the basis of race. People say, what's Harvard supposed to do? How's Harvard supposed to make the concessions necessary to get more federal funding? Stop being racist. Harvard. They won't do it. They won't do it. That's how much they. It is worth hundreds of millions of dollars to the people who run Harvard to continue to tell some poor white kid from Appalachia who has, you know, is like the pride of his town and, you know, is the. You know, he's got, like, a 140 IQ and 1600 SAT and everything. Yeah, I don't know if we have any space for you, but we do have room for people who have far lesser grades and far lesser boards who are a different skin color than you. The fact that we had to accept this as long as we did in this country, keep in mind, it is unconstitutional now it is unconstitutional to do. This is not just. I've been making this argument pretty much my entire life, but Certainly for now, 15 years of doing media consistently. This is wrong. This is wrong. They can't win this argument. And then you get all people playing all these games too. It's like, oh, well, you know, my, my grandmother is from Polynesia, so I'm actually a, I'm applying to school as like a Pacific Islander. I know somebody who did that to get into Stanford. Just see. And she got in. Not an impressive student. Got in. Oh, I'm a quarter Pacific Islander. You know, it's like, by the way, I think her, I think her mom might have even been from like Hawaii or something. It's just the whole thing, it's a scam. It's a scam. It's absurd and we all know it. And by the way, this is true in the hiring process too. It's racist. It's wrong. Supreme Court looked at this. Sorry, this is the system we have. Not allowed to do this anymore. Harvard still wants to do it. They refuse to change. So back to my initial premise of when someone's doing bad things to you, if you do something in response, you're not the cause of the problems. Harvard is unconstitutionally discriminating and also teaching all of his kids to hate America and also engaged in a lot of pandering to the anti semitic, pro Hamas element on ca. All these things. Why should the administration remember. The administration's not saying we're sending in the, you know, we're sending in the, you know, the Marines to shut down your campus. You're not. No, of course, First Amendment, but they're not entitled to hundreds of millions of dollars of funds from the government. This is the, this is what people, you know, this is like the same argument with npr. What is the argument? It's the government's money. The government should have never been giving this money, especially something like npr. And now it says, you know what, we're not going to give the money anymore. They don't have. So they have the discretion to give the money, but not the discretion to stop. And yeah, I know there's already some judge who's like, you can't do this. Supreme Court's going to have to step in once again. But Harvard could make this whole thing a lot easier on itself. But it is so important to them because they have built this whole edifice of self congratulation and smugness around DEI and around diversity is our strength and all this other stuff. And they've first of all engaged in discrimination to do this. But also so much of what has happened been excellent in these institutions has been, you know, just given up in favor of this left wing religious belief of dei and that's why they're so upset. And that's what's going on now. I say keep this fight going, Keep this fight going. Trump is doing the right thing. These schools, you know, they give their. And I say, well, why did Obama go there? Because the whole point is you get to go to one of these places and you're inherently Harvey gets to pick and choose who the elites are. Well, to anyone who knows anything, by the way, you should not be impressed. I mean, I see some of these. There's like a national security analyst who I see on CNN sometimes and I used to know when I was there who is like, teaches at Harvard in one of the schools. She's a dumbass. I mean truly a dumbass. You're like, oh, buck, can you and her sit down? You and her sit down. She's a professor at Harvard in like the Kennedy school or something. Can you sit down? And let's do it. Let's just do like an overall knowledge test for the world and national security. She gets smoked by the buckster. Smoked. And I know this person teaches at Harvard. She's a Harvard professor. Yeah. Give me a break. Protecting your house from the effects of torrential rain starts with the gutters. That's the first place water collects. 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Summary of "Weekly Review With Clay and Buck - Hour 2 - Trump vs. Harvard"
Podcast Information
The second hour of the episode kicks off with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton welcoming their guest, Alex Berenson, a prominent commentator and author. The conversation begins with casual banter about health and personal anecdotes before delving into more substantial topics.
Discussion Highlights:
Removal of COVID Vaccine from CDC Schedule: Clay brings up a recent headline about the CDC removing the COVID vaccine from its immunization schedule for healthy children and pregnant women, questioning the implications.
Clay Travis [04:07]: “The CDC removes it from the schedule. And I think it was the New York Times on the front page today was, should they be removing this from the schedule?”
Alex Berenson's Analysis: Berenson expresses frustration with the FDA and CDC's cautious approach, suggesting that the agencies took minimal steps that don’t significantly impact vaccine availability.
Alex Berenson [04:10]: “They just took the smallest possible step, the most scientifically valid step, and you have these people screaming as if they're throwing babies off a bridge.”
Pushback from Public Health Officials: The hosts discuss the backlash received by the FDA and CDC for their decisions, highlighting a lack of substantial action despite widespread skepticism about vaccine efficacy.
Alex Berenson [06:13]: “They take the smallest possible step, the most scientifically valid step, and you have these people screaming as if they're throwing babies off a bridge.”
Discussion Highlights:
Shift in Pharmaceutical Focus: Berenson outlines the transition from the "golden age" of straightforward small molecule drugs to the current focus on complex biologics for treating severe conditions like cancer and autoimmune diseases.
Alex Berenson [11:10]: “We have an industry now where all the easy stuff has been found... now we're paying almost a half trillion dollars a year for drugs that are pretty much marginally efficacious.”
Economic Implications: The conversation touches upon the rising costs of drugs and the limited patient populations they serve, raising concerns about sustainability and accessibility.
Alex Berenson [15:36]: “Unless you have like psoriasis... a lot of the drugs are psoriasis drugs or you have cancer.”
Discussion Highlights:
Limitations of Current Technology: Clay inquires about the potential of AI and CRISPR to overcome the current stagnation in drug discovery and treatment efficacy.
Clay Travis [16:15]: “Does AI do, does CRISPR technology, which is gene editing for, to modify DNA sequences, does that offer a breakthrough to the logjam?”
Alex Berenson’s Skepticism: Berenson remains cautious, emphasizing that while the Human Genome Project provided foundational knowledge, practical breakthroughs in treating complex diseases through these technologies are still in their infancy.
Alex Berenson [17:02]: “I don't think so. And we'll see. I mean, I hope so.”
Discussion Highlights:
Federal Funding Cuts: The core of the episode revolves around the Trump administration's efforts to end federal funding to Harvard University, citing racial discrimination and anti-Semitism.
Clay Travis [22:51]: “My kid was valedictorian of his high school class. We contacted Harvard and they weren't even interested remotely because he's white.”
Constitutional and Ethical Concerns: Clay argues that Harvard's admissions practices violate constitutional principles by discriminating based on race, referencing past Supreme Court rulings that deem such practices unconstitutional.
Clay Travis [45:29]: “It is unconstitutional now it is unconstitutional to do. This is not just... This is wrong. They can't win this argument.”
Impact on Elite Institutions: The discussion highlights how elite universities like Harvard have entrenched left-wing ideologies, emphasizing Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) at the expense of merit-based admissions.
Clay Travis [40:23]: “Harvard has been engaged in discrimination... and they refuse to change.”
Broader Implications for Higher Education: The hosts suggest that cutting federal funds from institutions like Harvard could prompt a necessary reckoning within elite education, pushing universities to re-evaluate their policies and ideological directions.
Clay Travis [45:11]: “So back to my initial premise of when someone's doing bad things to you, if you do something in response, you're not the cause of the problems.”
Towards the end of the episode, Clay and Buck engage with listener feedback, reinforcing their stance on advocating for policy changes and holding institutions accountable. They emphasize the importance of challenging established norms to foster fairness and equity in education and beyond.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Clay Travis [04:07]: “I had to kind of laugh because on the front page... should they be removing this from the schedule?”
Alex Berenson [06:13]: “They take the smallest possible step, the most scientifically valid step, and you have these people screaming as if they're throwing babies off a bridge.”
Alex Berenson [17:02]: “I don't think so. And we'll see. I mean, I hope so.”
Clay Travis [22:51]: “My kid was valedictorian of his high school class. We contacted Harvard and they weren't even interested remotely because he's white.”
Clay Travis [45:29]: “It is unconstitutional now it is unconstitutional to do. This is not just... This is wrong. They can't win this argument.”
Conclusion
In this episode of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show," the hosts engage in a comprehensive discussion with Alex Berenson covering critical topics such as public health policies, the evolution and challenges facing the pharmaceutical industry, the potential of emerging technologies in medicine, and a contentious feud between the Trump administration and Harvard University over allegations of racial discrimination. The conversation underscores the need for accountability and reform in both public health and higher education institutions to ensure fairness and efficacy in their respective domains.