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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Weekly Review With Clay and Buck - Hour 3 - Make NATO Great Again
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Play and buck kicks off right now. Everybody, thank you so much for being here with us. As we know, some big developments going on around the world and here at home. President Trump overseas for a new NATO summit and going through some of the more important things on the national security front there. Of course, the president very much wants our NATO allies to meet their financial contribution thresholds, which almost none of them, I think a couple of them maybe have stepped it up, but very few of them were making those kinds of contributions to their own defense. Mind you, this is about spending a portion of GDP of their GDP on their own ability to contribute to NATO and therefore to the defense of these individual nations. And so that's a big part of this. But this was interesting. I think you're going to see some memes about this one at the Hague. Clay in the Netherlands. This was clip six, the NATO chief. Do you see this? Refer to Trump as Daddy. Play six. They fought like hell and then they said, let's stop and they're going to build themselves. And I really see it as sticking.
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Unknown
I mean, we may do papers on.
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Clay Travis
It, Marco, maybe we're going to do papers. I don't even know if you need them. They're not going to be fighting each other. They've had it. They've had a big fight, like two kids in a schoolyard. You know, they fight like hell. You can't stop them.
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Unknown
Let them fight for about two, three minutes.
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Clay Travis
Then it's easy to stop him. Daddy has to sometimes do strong language, strong language. Every once in a while you have to use a certain word. I mean, he kind of was afraid, I would say, calls Trump Daddy. That's what his report is a little more of like he's playing along with the analogy there. But here, here's another moment. Here's Lithuanian. The Lithuanian president. I'm not even going to pretend that I know how to say his name. This is Cut7, who has a new NATO motto that he wanted to just cosplay it.
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Tulsi Gabbard
I think we should choose the motto make NATO great again. I would like to extend my gratitude to President Donald Trump because without his engagement, I can imagine that would discuss probably the level of 2.5% with no clear outcome and positive outcome. Probably those discussions will lead to nothing. Nothing.
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Clay Travis
So, Clay, Trump's mark on NATO is very clear. I remember in the first term, there were a lot of people whose objection was that they said that Trump was going to destroy NATO and he was so horrible for it. And now you got the whole North Atlantic Treaty Organization mobilizing to spend more, to prepare more, to be able to defend more. And Trump has been a huge part of that shift, really the leader of that shift.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Yeah, look, there was a decision made that the United States was going to protect the rest of the world. And so the rest of the world didn't have any obligation to have substantial military assets. I mean, this is certainly the case with Canada, which basically has no military because they are freeloading on the fact that they feel as if the United States will protect them no matter what. And that's true. Look at Canada's military spending. Look at the number of people that they have in uniform. They, they are effectively of the opinion that they have no danger because they happen to border the United States. And there was that belief in many of the NATO countries that, to build on the analogy that was being made there, Trump and the United States was the daddy of Europe and they didn't have to spend money on any of their own defense because the United States had their back. And that's something that frankly, a lot of American leadership has wanted to foster for some period of time to, to allow that to sort of become ingrained. And Trump said, why would we continue to be the world's policeman? Why would we continue to be effectively your security guards and you're going to have to spend money? And that seems totally rational. I got a question for you also coming out of this. This news has just broken recently. This is, you know, with your intelligence background, should there be an investigation on the leaking of this high level intelligence sort of opinion that was given to CNN and the New York Times? Is that worthwhile? Is that useful? Should it be something that was not published in those newspapers? Based on your background?
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Clay Travis
The, the leak investigation is always such a hotly contested and charged issue. And you can tell based on whether people think that the person is a, quote, whistleblower or a leaker. Right. That's one. That's always the way those terms are used is very much whom or what I like and whom and what I don't like. So I think that's a big piece of it. I think that in this case, you know, the thing about leaks, there's leaks that damage sources and methods that can put lives and national security at risks. And there's leaks that are more political in nature to talk about the damage done to the nuclear facilities, though this is. And relying on classified sources to do it and telling the media and trying to shape a narrative, you know, you are breaking your oath to protect classified information. Right. So this isn't, you know, there always are judgment calls about this kind of stuff. Like, is this someone sharing their opinion about whether something's a good idea? I mean, that's generally not something that is a national security risk or classified. But if you're sharing an opinion based on information very clearly that is derived from classified sources and that is against regulations, you shouldn't be doing it. And no one person in the Defense Intelligence Agency should think that he or she should be trying to shape US Foreign policy by using the media as attack dogs against Trump based off of classified sources. Right. So that's a long way of saying, yeah, I think they should try to chase down this leak. The person should, at a minimum, be fired. It's very hard to find leakers, very hard to prove that someone is a leaker. So, you know, we still don't know who gave the Supreme Court the dot. Right. So, yeah, you know, just to give you a sense of it, yeah, I can say we should find the leaker, but it's very hard to do.
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Tulsi Gabbard
And that is a good point because there's only roughly 100 people, and that may be too many who could have ever leaked that information in the Supreme Court. How many people do you think? And that's the, of course, the Dobbs decision coming out before the Dobbs decision was released, which thankfully didn't get Brett Kavanaugh assassinated, but did provoke the motive of. Until the opinion is published. If you kill a member of the Supreme Court, it's scary. Then the opinion doesn't go into effect. And Biden would have had the opportunity, because he controlled the Senate at the time, to replace Brett Kavanaugh and theor, theoretically preserve Roe v. Wade. That was the logic behind why all this was leaked. I believe, in addition to putting pressure on people to change their opinions. Let me ask you this. How many people do you think would have had the ability to know and see this report? In other words, when you conduct an investigation, the first thing you have to figure is how many people had eyes on it? How many people had the ability to contact the New York Times, CNN with a report like this? Is it a hundred? Is it a thousand? How many people out there do you think would have seen this report to the extent that it is accurate that they have conveyed on that report? Because that tells you how hard it is to track somebody down just based on how many eyeballs are on it.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, well, it's very. It's very tough to know and remember. There's going to be a lot of different cables coming in and out, damage assessments that are, that are on the classified channels. And so, you know, this is where you get into more of a mosaic theory of what, how specific was the information and how much of this was someone getting from one report versus another and without obviously have no access to any of this stuff. So I can't speak to the specificity that was leaked and that that obviously would go toward how easy would be to catch somebody. If they get very clear details that could only come from a really small like eyes only sort of report, then it's much more likely you're going to be able to find out who is involved in the leak. And the big thing to do is usually you just pull somebody cell phone records and email stuff and, and then you see them talking to New York Times reporter. Now people get very, you know, depending, again, depending on who's doing it and the First Amendment starts to get a lot of attention and people talk about the right of the public to know and this stuff can get messy quickly. So, but on this one, to me, it's egregious. And why take this to the press? To try to undermine the President in this critical moment where we're seeing the Iranians on the defensive and hoping to bring about, I mean, what is Trump trying to do here? Stop the threat of a nuclear armed Iran and move the region forward into a more peaceful place?
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Tulsi Gabbard
Yeah, that's a very noble goal. Here's what I would wonder. Are you to the point now where certainly we know Pete Hegseth has been very upset about leaks inside of the Pentagon and to his credit, and to the credit of everybody involved in this attack, nobody knew this was close to the vest. Iran seems to have been caught unaware that certainly this news didn't break until Trump went on social media and said, hey, our planes are now out of Iranian airspace. We've successfully attacked all those things. Here is one thing I wonder, do you set up fake news to try to catch the leakers, let them believe that they have some information that you know is inaccurate because it, and start to give information to try to catch.
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Clay Travis
The people that are an old counterintelligence technique. And if you, if you were to fly, if you put in the system stuff that is untrue but juicy and it finds its way and you know, then, you know, based on who you gave that to. Right. You flush it out the other side and see. Look, I think what's more to me, what's even more important here is just that the administration is able to I mean, look, Pete Hegsett, the secretary of defense, has been very clear on this. Others have been very clear on this, that they're trying to, that they're clear on this was a massively successful strike and it has done catastrophic damage to the Iranian nuclear program. And I think just, it's the most important thing is one, that that is confirmed as true with further analysis. And two, they let the public know that because we are the final check on these things. Like we, the American people, should know what was the end result of this and was it worth the risks that were taken and the involvement here. So I want that transparency from the Trump team in terms of getting this leaker. I think it's unlikely you'll get him. I think they should try because you want to prevent these kinds of leaks. And I just think it goes to the mindset of some people who work inside the intelligence agencies that they are, they're like operating under some higher power, which is just always get, you know, get Trump, make Trump look bad, whatever that is. And people have gone to prison for this, as we know. People have gone to prison for leaking stuff that really was just meant to.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Make Trump look bad on the leaking front. The thing that makes the most sense to me without an intelligence background at all, is when you bomb the side of a mountain, it is hard to know how far and the entryways to the facility are completely obliterated and you cannot get in. It is, I would imagine, hard to assess how far into the interior of the mountain the overall damage goes. So until you have boots on the ground, which Israel claims that they have had the ability to do, to try to assess how you get back inside, I would think also that if Iran starts to unpack that nuclear facility, that would be very visible and we would be able to go in again and, and drop additional bombs as needed in, in the event that we have assessed that we didn't get the full attack success level that we had hoped we were going to be able to. We'll take some of your calls. By the way, Senator Marsha Blackburn is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. It's worth mentioning that there is the desire to get the big beautiful bill, which has not been much talked about over the past few weeks, that has moved to the the back burner, given all the other stories. But Trump's signature legislative goal and achievement is getting closer and closer to fruition. We will talk with Senator Blackburn at the bottom of this hour what she thinks about the time frame as it pertains to this process. But I want to tell you all about rapid Radios. I'm up in Michigan right now at News Talk 580 WTCM in Traverse City. The guys who started rapid Radios are Michiganders. They put in place a business. They knew that there was going to be a demand because at any point in time you could have a hurricane, you could have a tornado, you could have power out in your neighborhood. Maybe it's just an awful winter storm and you got a lot of ice on branches, trees coming down and you want to be able to stay in touch with people. Rapid radios keep five days worth of chargers and you'll be able to talk to people all over the country. Bucks sister in law during the big hurricane that hit Asheville, people didn't anticipate the damage that would occur in western North Carolina. She was able to continue to use these rapid radios. Get in touch with Buck's father in law. They were able to get the help that they needed when almost all other forms of communication were down. Trust me on this, this is a great opportunity. You can get an incredible offer. All you have to do is go to rapidradios.com use code radio. You will get the best possible deal. Give your family the opportunity to be able to protect them for the event of casualty in the event of catastrophe. Also, hey, maybe you got young kids and you want them to be able to run around outside but you don't want them having cell phones yet. Every little kid likes to use a walkie talkie. You can travel. You can use these. We've used these at college football games when it's sometimes difficult to otherwise be able to use cell phone service and get hooked up. Right now you'll be glad that you did. Rapidradios.com code radio you'll love them. We have them in the Travis household. That's Rapidradios.com code radio.
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Clay Travis
This is its own. This is its own beast. There are interagency assessments where you have different entities from within these different DIA, CIA, NSA, NCTC.
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Tulsi Gabbard
So would there be like 20 different opinions of exactly what this strike went.
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Clay Travis
More.
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Tulsi Gabbard
How many different versions of this reports.
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Clay Travis
Would be floating around? I don't even know. Usually there's, there's primacy on the issue that certain and a certain agency will have. But even within the agency they'll, they'll refer to them as equities and they'll say that different groups have equities on this issue. So they have to all agree. This is what you get. The.
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Tulsi Gabbard
I would lose my mind over this. It just, even the bureaucracy of analyzing what the strikes did would just make me throw my head hands up in the air like you can basically find any opinion that you want is kind of what I'm getting at in terms of the gradation or variation of the success of these strikes.
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Clay Travis
Yes, yes, that's. Well, this is what happened with Cheney and the wmd by the way. And I know that story better than even the public knows the story because I know the people that were involved in it. Dated is that Cheney heard what he liked, you got invited back down to the White House.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Yes.
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Clay Travis
Cheney didn't like the analysis. You didn't do a good job and you got a, you know, your, your boss got an email saying they got to replace you with somebody else. It's pretty straightforward. Look, some of the best investment opportunities come by way of research on your part. If you've not spent the time learning what investment analyst Jim Rickards has to offer, take time this week to do so. He has history in both Washington and Wall street and is following development of a possible sovereign wealth fund in our nation. Jim Rickards is one of those in the know kind of people with great insight on a potential forthcoming opportunity with huge benefit to our nation and to you in particular. The first ever national sovereign wealth fund would be one that provides citizens a return to citizens or retires national debt which would benefit us all. There's some really well informed people who think that we actually have an asset in this country that could be worth as much as $150 trillion. It has been buried under American soil and could be the basis for a sovereign wealth fund. Hear Jim's thinking on this issue. Go to birthright2025.com he's right. It's going to be huge. Go to birthright2025.com Free of charge, paid for by Paradigm. Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee joins us right now. Senator, always appreciate you making the time for us. Thank you so much.
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You got it. I'm so happy to join you.
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Clay Travis
Thanks how are you feeling about the influx of New Yorkers that you may be getting? Senator Blackburn, based on the mayor's race, do you have, do you have room in the great state of Tennessee? If they're, if they're good patriotic Americans.
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Unknown
Fleeing your way, if they are willing to leave New York and Illinois and California and Massachusetts, Taxachusetts, some of these states, and leave behind those Democrat policies and come to a state like Tennessee with no state income tax, then we welcome them.
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Tulsi Gabbard
This is probably a question that I'm sure you get all the time. But as somebody born and raised in Tennessee, it's one of the questions that I get most frequently, frequently from others who are born and raised in Tennessee. We have data now on the 2024 election. And I know you obviously as an elected official probably have poured over that data and I know you got a lot of smart people in Tennessee, Florida and Texas. It appears that the people moving are as a whole making the states redder so far. Right? So to allay some of those concerns that might be out there.
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Unknown
Oh, that is so very true. And I meet people every single day, Clay, and they will say, oh, did you really stop a state income tax in Tennessee? And they're amazed. You know, they are accustomed to paying these exorbitant state income tax fees. And then you look at this issue that has come up on the SALT tax and you have California and New York trying to move that deduction to $40,000 and say we want it to apply to everybody making under a million dollars a year. And they keep trying to expand it and we keep saying no, this is an issue for your state legislature. If you think the taxes are too high, go talk to them, tell them it's time for them to start right sizing the federal government. And you don't need the federal or to right size the state government. You don't need the federal government saying, okay, we're going to give you an extra deduction because your states cannot get their fiscal house in order. But people are voting with their feet and they're choosing states like Tennessee.
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Clay Travis
Senator Blackburn, I see here on a Fox story that you spent some time doing ride alongs and seeing firsthand what the mission of Immigration and Customs Enforcement looks like these days. What's going on with it? What did you see and what do the American people need to know about the Trump administration's interior immigration enforcement efforts?
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Unknown
Our Homeland Security investigators and our ICE agents are working about 75 hours a week right now. They are putting in the time it takes a Lot of time. And in order to apprehend these individuals that have orders of deportation that are criminal, illegal aliens, and meeting with them, talking with them before we started the ride alongs, that was so instructive to me. Now, seeing how hard they work as they surveil individuals and make certain that they are in a public space, they're not inside a house when they apprehend them, it is something that takes a lot of time. We were surveilling someone who was a convicted child molester and had come into the US And I have not met one single person that says, I am really hopeful that we're going to have Some Trende Aragua Ms. 13 or other violent gangs move into our apartment complex or into our community or buy the house that's for sale down the street. They are hopeful they're going to get a family that's got babysitters or kids that can play with their kids. But they're not looking for drug dealers, sex traffickers, gang members or convicted criminals to buy those homes and move into their neighborhood or their community. And ICE is working very hard to rid our communities of those individuals and to see them depression deported back to their home countries.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Senator Blackburn, we just saw that there's people throwing fits inside of the Capitol as the big, beautiful bill advances. There's been talk that John Thune, Senate Majority Leader, is holding everybody there to get the votes done. What's the timeframe so far as you can tell? I know there's going to be a lot going on. When are you expecting it to pass? What are you expecting it to look like for people wondering out there?
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Unknown
First of all, it is going to be the largest tax cut in American history. That is what this bill will give you. It will make those 2017 tax cuts permanent, the largest tax cut in history. Also, no tax on tips, overtime. And my provision, which will hold our senior citizens harmless when it comes to paying that tax on Social Security, which I have tried to get rid of of for years. So no tax on tips, overtime, Social Security. In addition to that, if you are a freeloader, a fraudster, an illegal alien, you do not deserve Medicare or Medicaid benefits. And we are going to make certain that you are removed from those roles so we can strengthen those programs and have them there for the people that deserve them. So the prospects look very good. Everybody is united in getting President Trump's agenda across the finish line. Working out some of the final details, getting some of the final scoring is where we are right now.
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Tulsi Gabbard
And so you expect For President Trump. He's been wanting to get it signed by July 4th or thereabouts. You expect sometime around July 4th.
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Unknown
Yes, I think you'll see him signing it by July 4th.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Oh, wow.
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Clay Travis
Excellent. That's really good news. We certainly hope that that gets done.
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Unknown
People would like to get the largest tax cut in history signed, sealed, delivered by President Donald Trump in time for their Independence Day celebration.
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Clay Travis
Senator Blackburn, so are there any last minute issues that are still being hammered out, or does it seem like a pretty clear path to get that big, beautiful bill done before the 4th of July holiday?
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Unknown
Oh, there are always some little loose ends that are going to be hammered out. And we're still waiting on some scoring from cbo. And as I say, why don't we wait on these people? They're always wrong. Their numbers are never right. So we'll finish with those details during the rest of the day and then hopefully we can move to cloture tomorrow on this thing.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Outstanding stuff, Senator Blackburn, we appreciate the time and we look forward to that bill getting passed and President Trump's agenda continuing to be executed.
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Unknown
You got it. Take care. Bye now.
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Tulsi Gabbard
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Clay Travis
Florida's been leading on immigration enforcement, supporting.
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Tulsi Gabbard
The Trump administration and ICE's efforts to.
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Clay Travis
Detain and deport criminal aliens. The governor tasked state leaders to identify.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Places for new temporary detention facilities. I think this is the best one, as I call it, alligator Alcatraz.
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Clay Travis
This 30 square mile area is completely surrounded by the Everglades, presents a efficient, low cost opportunity to build a temporary detention facility.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Because you don't need to invest that much in the perimeter. People get out, there's not much waiting for them other than alligators and pythons.
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Clay Travis
Nowhere to go, nowhere to hide.
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Tulsi Gabbard
This is actually a brilliant idea. I give credit to the state of Florida on this because historically, this is why places like Alcatraz existed. You surrounded them with very difficult barriers for prisoners in the event that they were to escape. I feel pretty good about the difficulty of anybody getting out of Alligator Alcatraz. As a floridian, are you 100% behind this idea?
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Clay Travis
Certainly getting a lot of attention. And you need places where you can hold people, quickly process them, and then get those deportation proceedings going. You know, you look at the numbers and I know the Trump administration is moving rapidly on this stuff, but when you see the flood that happened under Biden in four years, it's going to take some real doing here to begin to really chip away at the illegal invasion that happened in the country. But yeah, the thing about, you know, alligators, they're, you know, during the daytime they'll leave you alone for the most part. Not too bad. It's really at night that you wouldn't want to be trying to go up to like chest deep water in the Everglades and hope that you don't make some new friends. You weren't intending on that. That would be tough.
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Tulsi Gabbard
There's also crocodiles and as he mentions pythons, anacondas. There's a, like, basically anything can live in the Everglades and they do these python searches. I mean, there are 20 foot pythons now.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, well, those are an invasive species brought here as pets. The pythons are pets that were brought here and released. Iguanas were pets that were brought Here. And released iguanas are everywhere. You'll see iguanas all over the place here. A lot of the smaller lizards as well. They're not indigenous to South Florida. They were brought here as pets. So that's why when you go to places and they say, did you bring any, like, animals or livestock products or whatever? Because if you introduce some of these things into the ecosystem, I think lionfish as well, which you can go and you can kill as many lionfish as you want down here in Florida. And you can. I think you can eat them. They have spines on them. They're very poisonous. Parrots are there. I live next to flocks of wild parrots now. They're all over the place here. Those were brought here as pets. So a lot of stuff that you think of, you know, what is not native to Florida or you will not find in Florida. Flamingos. Have I talked to you about this before? People think of. There are thousands of businesses and places. There's a flamingo park here in Miami Beach. Flamingo is everywhere as a concept in Florida. Flamingo lawn ornaments. We've all seen them, Clay. The flamingos that most people think of when they think of Miami were actually a flock of flamingos brought from Africa at the racetrack in the intro of Miami Vice. And everyone thought from that show, because there's flamingos at the racetrack, there must be flamingos in Florida. There are very rare. Like a handful of occasions where they think that maybe during severe weather, flamingos have basically been, like, blown here. But there are. There are not indigenous flamingos in any numbers in Florida, which I think even shocks some Floridians when they find out.
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Tulsi Gabbard
The most successful, most liked invasive species in American history.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
Bees.
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Tulsi Gabbard
They did. It's crazy. People don't realize it. There were no bees, no honeybees in the United States or in the Americas until they were brought over from Europe. By the way, another crazy one, Tomatoes. Not native to Italy. We all think about tomatoes, like, because so much of their cuisine involves tomatoes. Not native.
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Clay Travis
So they. They say now that they think there are up to a hundred flamingos in the state of Florida that may have been blown here during Hurricane Idalia. But there was a. There's been a long period where there were no wild flamingos here. So now they. There's, like, a very small colony of them. But it's. You know, I always. I'm down here, you see pelicans all over the place.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
And they're not as famous, but flamingos are the things you think of as Florida. They're not really here, but yeah. So that's, that's, it's, it's like the state bird for a state that barely has any of these birds.
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Tulsi Gabbard
By the way, breaking news that does not have anything to do with international politics, but does have something to do with New York City. In the wake of the Democrat primary, both sides have, have rested their case in the Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, whatever you want to call him, Sean Combs, sex trafficking, for lack of a better way of describing it, case. And that has now gone to the jury. So this is a big story New York City. You and I have both. I think we're in agreement on this. They've dropped some of the charges now because they thought they were complicated before they even got to the jury. I don't know that we're going to get a not guilty verdict, I think based on following this entire case. I don't think they've proven that this is a, that this is a crime. I don't think they're going to get a unanimous jury verdict. Now. I was wrong on the New York City mayor mayoral race. Maybe I'll be wrong on this. There's eight men on the jury and basically this case has been boiled down. We'll probably talk about it some tomorrow now that the jury's got it to was this coercive or consensual activity that these women were engaging in. And I don't think you're going to be able to get all of the jury to agree that, that Puff Daddy is guilty here based on the evidence and what I have seen of the testimony. Are you in agreement with me that you, you expect a. I'm not saying not guilty. I'm saying I don't think 12 people or the total number of jurors here, I think it's 12 will agree to these charges.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, he's definitely guilty of being a scumbag, but that's not what the statutes are that are at issue. And I think that that is. This could be a shock to a lot of people. Now, remember we had on Dershowitz, who agreed with us in the broader sense, but said they made just convict him because he's such a clearly bad guy. But on appeal it will be overturned. That's another possibility. But definitely not an open and shut case. And I would not put a lot of money on a guilty verdict here.
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Tulsi Gabbard
We'll give you the latest on that tomorrow.
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Clay Travis
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