Weekly Review With Clay and Buck - Hour 3 - The Art of the Possible

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Weekly Review With Clay and Buck - Hour 3 - The Art of the Possible
Release Date: July 5, 2025
Host: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Publisher: iHeartPodcasts

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1. Senate Passes Landmark Bill

Timestamp: [03:00] – [05:09]

Clay and Buck kick off the episode by discussing a significant legislative development: the Senate's passage of a major bill with a narrow 51-50 vote. Clay notes, "Within moments the Senate had passed on a 5150 vote, the big beautiful bill." Buck adds context about the key players involved, mentioning, "JD Vance had to be the tiebreaker on that one." They anticipate the bill moving back to the House for further deliberation before heading to the President's desk, expressing optimism for a swift signature before the upcoming holiday.

2. Trump’s Visit to Alligator Alcatraz and Immigration Stance

Timestamp: [05:09] – [09:25]

The conversation shifts to former President Donald Trump's unconventional visit to Alligator Alcatraz in Ochopee, Florida. Buck describes the location as remote, adding, "It's near Everglades City, which is really middle of nowhere." They discuss Trump's stern remarks regarding illegal migrants, highlighting his message: "If you try to run from the gators or swim from the gators, it's going to be a bad day for you."

Buck further elaborates on the Trump-DeSantis dynamic, stating, "Trump and DeSantis are a whale of a team." He speculates on DeSantis's future, suggesting he could play a significant role in a potential Trump 2.0 administration, possibly even as Secretary of Defense. The hosts underscore the importance of maintaining a strong alliance between Trump and DeSantis to navigate upcoming political challenges.

3. Addressing the National Debt and Economic Growth

Timestamp: [09:25] – [12:02]

Clay and Buck dive into the pressing issue of the national debt, which has surged from $10 trillion during the Tea Party era to an anticipated $40 trillion. Clay emphasizes the urgency, "National debt is soon going to be $40 trillion. That's untenable." They discuss the lack of political will to tackle the debt through increased taxes, proposing instead that reducing government spending is the inevitable path forward.

Buck introduces an optimistic outlook, advocating for economic growth as a solution: "Hey, this bill is going to pass. And now it's time to try to figure out how do we grow the economy as rapidly as we possibly can." They propose that achieving a 3-4% growth rate could lead to a surplus through expansion rather than cuts, presenting a hopeful strategy to mitigate the national debt crisis.

4. Concerns Over the Democratic Party and Emerging Candidates

Timestamp: [12:02] – [14:09]

The discussion turns to the Democratic Party's current trajectory and the rise of candidates like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) and Bernie Sanders. Clay expresses concern over the party's direction, stating, "We have a communist in the [position] for the first time." He criticizes their policies and leadership choices, arguing that the Democrats came perilously close to winning the election despite promoting what he views as detrimental candidates like Kamala Harris.

Buck echoes these sentiments, warning about the potential consequences if a coalition does not form to oppose candidates he deems extreme. He predicts that without unified resistance, figures like Mai Momdani could ascend to influential positions, undermining federal immigration laws and further destabilizing national policies.

5. The "Rio Reset" and the Future of the US Dollar

Timestamp: [19:04] – [20:05]

Clay introduces the concept of the "Rio Reset," forecasting a significant shift in the global financial landscape. He warns, "On July 6, the BRICS nations... are expected to unveil their plans to circumvent the US Dollar, thus cratering its value." This move challenges the US dollar's dominance, which has persisted for over 80 years.

To safeguard personal finances, Clay recommends diversifying retirement portfolios with gold, citing Birch Gold Group as a reliable option. He asserts, "Historically, gold has been a safe haven in times of high uncertainty, which certainly applies right now."

6. Listener Engagement and Movie Discussion

Timestamp: [21:20] – [37:50]

Clay and Buck engage with listener talkbacks, addressing questions and comments on various topics, including cultural references and personal anecdotes. A significant portion of the discussion revolves around identifying the best movies of the 21st century. The hosts and listeners share their favorites, such as "The Dark Knight," "Old School," and "Minority Report," debating the merits and personal preferences of each film.

Clay reflects on the emotional impact of intense movies, mentioning, "The Pianist is an incredible movie, but I can't say it's my favorite movie because... I'm just not gonna lie and be that guy." Buck adds his perspective on acting performances, particularly Heath Ledger's portrayal of the Joker, emphasizing the depth and darkness that actors sometimes delve into for their roles.

7. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Plans

Timestamp: [47:47] – [52:06]

As the episode nears its end, Clay and Buck discuss their plans for the upcoming Independence Day weekend, emphasizing family time and safety due to the expected surge in travel. They encourage listeners to subscribe to their podcast network and tease future guest hosts and live shows. The hosts conclude by wishing listeners a happy 4th of July and reiterating their commitment to bringing engaging and informative content.

Key Quotes

• Clay Travis:
  "National debt is soon going to be $40 trillion. That's untenable." ([09:25])

• Buck Sexton:
  "Hey, this bill is going to pass. And now it's time to try to figure out how do we grow the economy as rapidly as we possibly can." ([09:55])

• Clay Travis:
  "We have a communist in the [position] for the first time." ([14:09])

• Buck Sexton:
  "Trust and Will makes it easy. Designed by attorneys but customized by you, you can easily create a state-specific, legally valid document that actually counts." ([05:09])

Conclusion

In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton address pivotal political and economic issues, including legislative developments, the national debt, and the evolving dynamics within the Democratic Party. They offer insights into potential future political alliances and strategies to navigate the country's financial challenges. Additionally, the hosts engage with their audience through interactive discussions on cultural topics, fostering a connection beyond traditional news commentary. The episode underscores the duo's commitment to providing informed, thoughtful analysis paired with relatable conversations.

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Note: This summary intentionally omits advertisements, promos, and non-content segments to focus solely on the substantive discussions between Clay and Buck.

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Third hour, clay and Buck kicks off now. The big news of the day at the top of the show. Just to recap right as we came on air, I mean, within moments the Senate had passed on a 5150 vote, the big beautiful bill. JD Vance had to be the tiebreak on that one. Tom Tillis, Rand Paul, who's the third? Somebody else didn't get. Oh, Collins didn't vote for it. So, yep, that was what happened there. Now, thank you, Clay, for the catch. It goes back to the House side before it goes to the president's desk for signature. The House is going to, there's going to be some squawking from the Freedom Caucus about it. I don't think they're going to sabotage the Trump agenda at this late moment on the big beautiful bill, but they're gonna, they're gonna, you know, look, they're allowed to have their say on it and they will. So that will be a thing that occurs in the next few days and we're probably gonna get to a signature before the holiday. Hopefully that is how this will go. So that, that's the big news. And then we had the most interesting visit of the day. Was Donald Trump going down to Alligator Alcatraz, which is in Ochopi, Ochapi, Florida, which is near Everglades City, which I can tell you is not really much of a city. It is really middle of nowhere ville. I think Ochopi is, has a hundred people, something like that lives in, lives in the, in the, it is unincorporated territory. So it's not even, I think a township per se is quite small. But that was the one. If you were wondering, it wasn't Lake Okeechobee. I know Lake Okeechobee. Ochopee was the, the new place. So that's where they have this airstrip that is a place to put illegal migrants, illegal aliens before they are deported. And Trump is saying if you try to run from the gators or swim from the gators, it's going to be a bad day for you. So there's all that going on. And then he got into Kami Mumdani. Do you have anything in the Alligator Alcatraz? The team is saying that all you have to do is be able to not zigzag but outrun the nearest person.

[Buck Sexton]

To you, which that is always true.

[Clay Travis]

And that is mean. That's very mean. Clay would. Clay would not leave me behind to get eaten by gators. Right, Clay? Correct.

[Buck Sexton]

I would be. Again, I've said on this program before, I am prepared to save anyone from an alligator attack. If you see me near a swamp, I've got your back. So just don't go in the water. But if they come out of the water, like in Crocodile Dundee, I know that's crocodile versus an alligator, then I'll be like Mick Dundee right there to. To protect you. By the way, that movie also still a lot of fun. If you've got kids and you want to watch some movies during the July 4th holiday. Weather's not great. Maybe you're sitting around. We've been watching all the Harry Potter movies in the Travis household, and they're still really good. So props J.K. rowling. I think she may have a future in this creative industry space. But that alligator Alcatraz thing, and I think, I know we said it last hour, but I do think it's so important. Trump and DeSantis are a whale of a team. And I know Ron DeSantis only has whatever it is, a year and a half left, basically as the governor of Florida, but I would not be surprised if DeSantis ends up in some form or fashion as a part of Trump 2.0 cabinet. And what I mean by that is there's constant doing these jobs takes a lot of. So so far, we have had pretty great stability in Trump 2.0 cabinet universe. But at some point, some of these guys, probably after N gals after the midterms, are going to start to say, hey, I want to do something different. I'm burned out. Two years of going full speed doing X, Y or Z. There's something else that I want to do. It wouldn't shock me if Trump comes back to DeSantis. Remember, there was some talk about DeSantis potentially being the secretary of defense when it was uncertain about whether Hegseth was going to be confirmed. And that's another example of J.D. vance breaking a tie. 5050 in the Senate, J.D. vance gets the vote to get Hegseth in. And Pete has done a very, very good job since this is also an example on the big, beautiful Bill, you've got J.D. vance breaking the tie. This is why having a little bit of a buffer in the Senate, 53, 47, man, it would be great to be up to 54 or 55 or 56 as it pertains to where we're headed on next. But the Trump DeSantis relationship, very strong. And I think it's important to point out that by and large, most of you out there who voted Trump, I really can't hardly point to anything in the first six months and say, hey, I think Trump could have done a better job on this politics, the art of the possible. So I understand that people are saying, oh, this is my number one issue and this hasn't been addressed completely to the, to the ability that I would like. You can't make people do what there is not the political will for them to do. So you and I buck, we talked about this some earlier. We're very troubled by the national debt. When the Tea Party got its start, national debt was $10 trillion. National debt is soon going to be $40 trillion. That's untenable. But until there is a political will to address it and you can't solve it by increasing tax rates, that doesn't work. Ultimately, I think you're going to have to dial back spending. This is inevitable. But that political will is not there yet. So in the meantime, you have two options. You can either whine and complain, and some people are choosing that because it's not kick your legs, scream like a child, have a temper tantrum, or you can do what you and I are talking about now. Hey, this bill is going to pass. And now it's time to try to figure out how do we grow the economy as rapidly as we possibly can to help to lead to a surplus through growth as opposed to a surplus through cuts. That is the new hope. And to me, if we can get it to 3, 4% growth, everything changes.

[Clay Travis]

Yes. So that's the, that's the case for optimism. And I agree with you on that. The case for optimism is not that everyone's going to see the wisdom of Ron, of Ron, sorry, Rand Paul's math, and, and make massive changes to the biggest spending programs and priorities of the United States government now and for the last, well, all of our lifetimes. So, yeah, that's not going to happen. So hopefully Trump just has the economy so juiced and so en fuego that some very good things can happen. What will make things a lot worse is if the commie mom, Donnie, is able to take control. Trump spoke about this. There's some Marine One noise in the background, but he wanted you to hear this. This is cut seven. This is, look, even President Trump's win. And we all see this. This is concerning. When somebody gets the wind at his Back in some place as important as New York City. Play it. I think he's terrible. He's a communist. The last thing we need is a communist. I said there will never be socialism in the United States. So we have a communist. I think he's bad news. And I think I'm going to have a lot of fun with him, watching him, because he has to come right to this building to get his money. And don't worry, he's not going to run away with anything. I think he's frankly, I've heard he's a total nut job. I think the people of New York are crazy. They go this route. I think they're crazy. We will have a communist in the for the first time. Really? A pure, true communist. He wants to operate the grocery stores, the department stores. What about the people there? I think it's crazy. Yeah, Clay, it is crazy. And I understand that there's this sense that it's limited to New York, but AOC and Bernie Sanders, they co sign really all of this stuff. And they're the Democrats that have the most currency with the base. And it is a Democrat Party that came within a few hundred thousand votes of Trump even after lying about Biden's dementia and putting forward the worst candidate in our lifetime in Kamala Harris. So, I mean, I would argue even worse than dementia guy, which tells you a lot. So we have to take this seriously. People ask, how does the Democratic Party come back? It's not hard. They were close. Even in this election, in aggregate numbers, when you really look at it, there are a lot of people who are voting Democrat, no matter who they put forward, no matter how crazy the idea is. And Mamdani, I think, is just a symptom of that larger malady.

[Buck Sexton]

And again, I'm going to keep hammering it. If there is not a coalition that arises to all come together to oppose Mamdani. If you have Eric Adams running as an independent, Andrew Cuomo running as an independent, and you have a situation where Curtis Sliwa is the Republican, that trio is going to assure that Mamdani wins. So the only way New York City rejects mom Donnie and has some form of sanity in terms of who it's selecting as its next mayor, is if there's a understanding that they cannot all run and there is a coalition of opposition that comes together to try and defeat Mamdani, my concern is everybody's going to look out for their best interest. Meaning you're going to get more attention if you stay in the race and everybody else loses. And there isn't a coalition brought together to come against him. And I think what Trump is talking about in general is the opposition that he sees from all these sanctuary cities as the process is underway. To deport so many different people is a direct opposition to the federal government and should not be acceptable. And at some point, I think there's going to have to be a test case of someone, probably a mayor, that is one of the sanctuary cities that is directly defying federal law. Um, and we're gonna have to have the court's rule about whether or not that is permissible or appropriate, because I don't understand. We made this argument and the Supreme Court has said it quite clearly. The president of the United States is in charge of border related policies, immigration, all of those things. How can we allow all of these individual cities and certainly governors of states, but it's really being driven more by mayors of cities that have decided that they are sanctuaries. How can we allow them to directly defy federal law? At some point, that conflict is going to have to be resolved in some way by the larger court system. It feels inevitable to me.

[Clay Travis]

We'll get some calls and some talkbacks coming up here in a second. Want to hear from all of you before Clay and I sign off for the holiday. Like I said, Tudor Dixon and tomorrow, Brian Mudd in the next day. Got great guest host. We got live shows coming up for you with fantastic content. But Clay is going to be on the beach. I might even get to the beach. It's funny, I live.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

A lot of you weighing in on a variety of different topics. Roger down in Texas, he wants to know if we saw something happened over the weekend. Listen.

[Clay Travis]

Hey, did y' all see the generally jump?

[Travis Holloway]

I just wondered.

[Buck Sexton]

I think that broke up a little bit, or at least it broke up a little bit with me. He wanted to know if we saw that General Lee from Dukes of Hazzard jump the fountain in Kentucky. Yes. And it was awesome. Super cool. Did you watch Dukes of Hazzard when you were a kid growing up?

[Clay Travis]

It's a little. I was a little young for it. My older brother, I think, used to watch that show, who's your age? So I was a little young for the Dukes of.

[Buck Sexton]

I loved the Dukes of Hazzard back in the day. My favorite show, Dukes of Haz on CBS Dallas. And I would say the first real massive disappointment of my young life was when they tried to replace Bo and Luke Duke. I just remember being a kid and so disappointed that those guys, they were in a contract dispute and they replaced him for part of season five, I think. And it was, it was earth shattering for young.

[Clay Travis]

I remember I was, I was a big Knight Rider guy.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, I like that too. Did you have the Knight Rider? Did you have the car? Oh, yeah, that could talk back. That was pretty awesome.

[Clay Travis]

And now here we are at a place where the car actually can just drive up and pick you up. I have friends who have had their, their Tesla just come in and, and you know, get them. They can actually do that.

[Buck Sexton]

They can summon it. Yeah. And look, I talked about being in the Waymo and if you want a prediction for 20 years from now, I think driving cars going to end up like riding horses, something that people do for fun but that the average person no longer does. I would bet that in 20 years. Jordan in Oklahoma. What you got.

[Clay Travis]

Travis? I just got two quick questions here. One is Syria, why is Trump lifting the sanctions off of Syria and taking him off the terror sponsor group? And also what are Cash Patel and Dan Bongino doing about 2020? Covid Epstein January 6th and the Biden auto pin And a friend of mine, John, wanted me to give you this quote. I believe in two things. Absolutely. The First Amendment and boobs.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I like the last one.

[Clay Travis]

There's a lot of the FBI. The answer, all that FBI stuff is we don't know because they're not talking about everything going on there. And at some level it's just give, I would just say give Cash and Dan, the director and deputy director of the FBI give them the time necessary to do more of what needs to be done there. It has only been five months. It is early in the game. And what was the first thing that he said?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, Syria. The Syria answer is he's trying to give that new government an opportunity to prove that they can be allies. And I think if you look at it in the bigger picture of the Middle east, given how tough he has been on Iran, he is currying favor again politically with Saudi Arabia, with the uae, with Qatar, with Bahrain, by both carrot and stick, obviously, the stick for Iran, the carrot for Syria. If that new government can somehow be better than Assad, he's giving them an opportunity to try to prove that they're worthy of trust. And so far it does appear that that has, that's been going better. But it's still very early in that new government.

[Clay Travis]

This is very important. This is a DD Talk back. Jill from Oregon. Let's hear it. Hi, this is Jill and I'm in.

[Tudor Dixon]

Oregon and I have to go with.

[Clay Travis]

Buck on the pistachio ice cream.

[Buck Sexton]

I come from an area where we.

[Tudor Dixon]

Had a little local dairy and so it was not hard to get pistachio.

[Clay Travis]

Ice cream and it was fantastic.

[Buck Sexton]

So even as a kid I loved it.

[Clay Travis]

And put that one in your, in your cone there.

[Buck Sexton]

Mr. Clay Travis, I still believe that pistachio is not a top 20 ice cream flavor.

[Clay Travis]

You have to say pistachio. If you call it pistachio, it makes it sound even worse.

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[Clay Travis]

You're having a great time. We appreciate you being with us. Want to remind you to please subscribe to the Clay and Buck podcast network because you're going to want to have stuff to listen to as you are cleaning the grill in preparation for cooking on the grill, which is the thing you should all do. You don't want to get too much, too much of that kind of carbon gristle buildup on the metal grate of your grill. But if you want something to listen to or if you're going to be out there, I don't know, on the boat, in the yard, whatever it is, listen to Clay and Buck podcast network. Fantastic people there. David Rutherford, Tutor Dixon, Carol Markowitz, lots and lots of great people to listen to. And like we said, Tutor Dixon will be in for us tomorrow and our friend Brian Mud will be in for us the next day after that. So you got great shows coming up your way. We have, wow, a lot of talk backs and a lot of calls. A lot of good things going on here. Joe from let's take hh. Joe from Mesa, Arizona. Hey Joe and Mesa. I was trying to explain to my friend just like why most of America doesn't even care about the deportations that are happening and he flipped out on me and was saying that I needed to admit that I hate every other race other than my own anyways. So in the end they're just totally brainwashed, and there's nothing you can do. The law either matters or it doesn't. Has nothing to do with race, has to do with being a rule of law. Society. Clay.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. And look, I think that a lot of people are dialed out and just randomly buy into all of the histrionics. I mean, I think a perfect example of this is, you know, we're going to hit right now. The stock market is up again today for another high. It was only two months ago that they were telling you that everything was going to collapse and that you needed to make sure that you sold all your stocks and that we were headed for basically a nuclear winter. And from an economic perspective, and it just hasn't happened. And so I think the total fear there is, it works on a lot of people, and they are aware that emotionally they can play on people's failings as it pertains to that.

[Clay Travis]

Basically, we have next up here, a lot of Lord of the Rings nerds in this audience. Oh, we didn't get. We said we were going to do the movie thing.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, that's what I thought. I was doing my research here.

[Clay Travis]

New York Times best. Now, I. This is a little bit of a frustration because people don't pay. It's like when you had a teacher that said, make sure you read the instructions for the exam before you take the exam. It's the best movies of the 21st century. So anybody who's jumping in with Braveheart or, you know, which I love and would be my overall choice, overall favorite movie all time. That's 1998, I think, or 6 or I forget when a 9. I don't know. But it was, it was definitely in the 20th. 22. 0. 20th century. 21st century. Best movies of the 21st century. This is, this is the New York Times list that came out. We got a producer. I got all of you to tell me your. Your picks, and I thought they were pretty solid. And I say all of you. I mean, our team in New York. New York. Team, let's start with you, Ali. Producer Ali, what was your best movie of the 21st century? You had time to think about this. So you're on the hot seat now. If you forgot, what is it?

[Tudor Dixon]

Oh, no, I'm totally on the hot seat. I. I had gone with Gladiator, but.

[Rodney Williams]

I had the years all wrong.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, hold on. Get out.

[Clay Travis]

2000.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. It counts in the New York Times list.

[Clay Travis]

It does. Because that's. That's technically the 20th century.

[Buck Sexton]

They have it down at 92. So they are counting anything that's 2000 and beyond.

[Clay Travis]

Well, that's an outrage. First of all, the fact that they're counting it and they're Putting it at 92 is an outrage because Ali, I'd be. It would be a top fiver for me. Top fiver for sure. They put parasite at number one. A foreign film as the best movie of the 21st century. Which. Which I think is mad. Producer Mike, what was yours? You had a good one. Dark Knight. Were you Dark Knight or was that Greg? What is producer Mike? Producer. Dark Knight. Dark Knight. Yeah, he was Dark Knight. Solid. I can't. I can't quibble with that. I have watched that movie probably a hundred times. I enjoy the Dark Knight. He really brought back. People think now all the Batman franchise, huge franchise that was. It was on the ropes after a couple of really bad Batman movies that bombed big time, including one with I think the girl from Clueless was in it. Alicia Silverstone. There was a George Clooney. No one even remembers George Clooney played Batman. And it was such a bad movie that people don't even remember that he was Batman. So there were. So the. The Dark Knight was. Came back from the Batman Begins and the Dark Knight both great, great options. Remember, 21st century, we're looking at Clay. What was yours?

[Buck Sexton]

I broke it down. Trio meaning. Because to me there is. There's a difference between a kid movie. There's a difference between a comedy and there's a difference between a dramedy drama. So I went with. I agree. The whole Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy, the Dark Knight, that, that is really phenomenal. Well done. Up, I think was the best of the Pixar movies up. If you up is so well done. And then I think the funniest movie of the 21st century, I think is old School. I. I just think it is absolutely hysterical funny.

[Clay Travis]

Well, that's not even a category. Now you're making up categories.

[Buck Sexton]

Funniest.

[Clay Travis]

I think Old School is the funniest movie of the 21st century.

[Buck Sexton]

What would you. What's bet? What's funnier than old school?

[Clay Travis]

I mean, I think 40 year old virgin's funnier than old school.

[Buck Sexton]

40 year old virgin is very funny. Super Bad is very funny. Like there's a series of four or five movies, I think that you could argue. I think the combination of Will Ferrell, Vince Vaughn is tough to beat. Wedding Crashers also really, really funny and well done. But I think you have to consider what again, best doesn't mean Citizen Kane is a phenomenal movie. We talked about yesterday. Schindler's List is a phenomenal movie. It's hard to sit down and just be like, hey, let's have some popcorn and watch Schindler's List.

[Clay Travis]

Well, this is. This is like how I feel about the. The Pianist. P, I, A, n I, S, T. To be clear, the Pianist is a. Or the Pianist, maybe some people say it that way, is, I think, a perfect movie. Meaning it is incredibly well done. And every aspect of it, from the acting to the writing to the. To the sound, you know, to the soundtrack to the. I think it's a perfect movie, but it's intense. It's World War II.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

It's. You know, it's a Jewish guy who's trying to flee the. You know, the. Well, at one point, it's his neighbors and the Nazis. The Pianist is an incredible movie, but I can't say it's my favorite movie because if the Dark Knight trilogy or the Lord of the Rings movies are on, I'm watching those instead of the Pianist. I'm just. I'm not gonna lie and be that guy. Which brings me to, I think that private producer Greg, what was your pick? You didn't give us. You didn't give us your. We're trying to help you, by the way, for the holiday weekend, everybody. If you haven't seen any of these, we're giving you great recommendations for. I would argue the Lives of Other is a pretty perfect movie. Although it is German language and that is 21st century. But again, it's not a. You still haven't even watched it, have you? You, Laura, haven't watched the Lives of Others, and you have. Okay, maybe that one, because it's foreign language. I could see Lara being like Clay. Don't. Don't, you know, don't torture us. You guys haven't watched Hacksaw Ridge, which is insane, because that was. I gave you that assignment a long time ago, that movie.

[Buck Sexton]

To be fair. To be fair to me, I barely see anything. I watch stuff with my kids, which is why I've been watching Harry Potter.

[Clay Travis]

Watch hundreds of hours of college football.

[Buck Sexton]

Hundreds, I was going to say. And I watch a lot of sports. Let me give you an underrated movie that I think seems even more contemporary than it was when it came out. Minority Report. So, no, I'm telling you, go back and watch it now. In an age of AI, it seems eerily prescient in terms of its foreshadowing of where we are.

[Clay Travis]

Producer Greg is going to weigh in. He was a He. He wanted to get on this producer. Greg, best movie of the 21st century. If you were making this New York Times list, what's number one? Dark Knight. I'm with. I'm with. Oh, you're Dark Knight. Got you. I thought. I thought we had double Dark Knight. That's a. Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker is the best bad guy performance. That, that I think you. It's. That it's the no country for Old Men with what's his name, you know, Javier Bardem.

[Buck Sexton]

Javier Bardem.

[Clay Travis]

Javier Bardem and Hans Gruber in Die Hard, which was the first time that guy was ever in a movie, which is still amazing.

[Buck Sexton]

Does watching the Dark Knight, knowing that Heath Ledger was going to in some way kill himself, Like, I watch it now, and you're right, the performance is incredible. But when I watch it, in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, in order to become this good, he had to go to such a dark place that it felt to me like a lot of people who are actors and actresses, it's not actually that talented. You know what I mean? Like, there are lots of people who are. Whatever. Heath Ledger, that was actually an artistic performance as the Joker, but I think it led him into a world where his brain, like, almost broke.

[Clay Travis]

You know, he went into the darkness. Went to the darkness too much that. That. That has happened with. With people that get too into a role. A lot of people very high and look, because I saw a lot of comments about this, because I. I was on. I was on with Will Kane and Carol Markowitz on Will show on Fox Clay. And that's where this got some attention. A lot of people have as their top movies, I would say the ones that I saw the most for all of you, all of you out there, I'd say the one that, That I saw the most as a number one choice was either There Will Be Blood or no country for Old Men for best movie the 21st century. I view those as both excellent movies, but it also goes in that category of There Will Be Blood for me is like watching a masterclass of acting. Like, obviously, Daniel Day Lewis is phenomenal and. And the performances are. But do I care about anybody in this story, really?

[Buck Sexton]

No.

[Clay Travis]

Do I like anybody, really? No. And then I think that unfortunately, no country for Old Men, again, very well made. And I'm not saying it's not a good movie. I'm just saying, you know, if it's on, am I going to watch it? I don't. It's so bleak and kind of nihilistic for me. I so I can't get too excited about either one of those as a top 10 of the 21st century. They're both excellent movies, to be clear, but they're not movies. I've only watched each of those maybe twice, which for me is not very many.

[Buck Sexton]

I also, to me it when it's a book being made into a movie, I think the excellence of the movie in many ways reflects the book. And Cormac McCarthy is probably the greatest author. Now I'm really going to get people fired up. Probably the greatest author of the last 30 years. And I know he died a couple of years ago, but if you look at his production in terms of his talent and you go all the way back, he moved eventually his fiction to basically the border with Texas and Mexico. But he started off as a Tennessee based writer and I think he's probably the most talented writer in America in the last 30 years. And so no country for Old Men is a novel by him. And I think it just reflects the world that he created on the screen and is actually an illustration of his excellence as a writer more than it is as a film. Does that make sense? Like if you said, hey, the Great Gatsby, which it isn't, and it's been made multiple times, most recently with Leonardo DiCaprio, if you said the Great Gatsby is the best movie that's ever been made, I would be like, well, it's a phenomenal novel. And so to me, I strip out anything that isn't an original movie as a great movie. Does that make sense? A reflection of, of the, of the book?

[Clay Travis]

More than one talk back here before we get into more talkbacks and calls to close us out a a podcast listener. Zeb from Texas, Play it Clay and Buck, this is Zeb from Texas. Love your show. Listen to you every day since y' all took over for Rush. Ditto, baby. Hey, listen, I'm so disappointed that y' all would question producer Greg after he's led you right so many times. Minas Tirith is the capital city of Gondor after Osgiliath was destroyed by the orcs in the Battle of Sauron. Trust your man.

[Buck Sexton]

I just this is the nerdiest thing that has ever been said on the show, which is, I just love, I.

[Clay Travis]

Love that we have listeners who clearly, clearly have a 12 gauge across the backseat of the car, have a Stetson on and cowboy boots, and they're lecturing us about Minas Tirith as the city of Gondor as the capital of Gondor after Osilius, of course, was destroyed by the Oryx in the Battle of Sauron. That is, that is our, that is our Texas audience rolling around in a pickup ready for any javelinas they have to take out. But you get Lord of the Rings wrong and they're dropping knowledge on you.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

Tudor Dixon will be in tomorrow and then Brian Mudd On Thursday. And then it is July 4th. Buck and I will, we'll be out with our families for the 4th. We hope all of you are going to be safe if you're on the roads traveling all over the country. Supposed to be a record breaking amount of travel going on this week, so please stay safe. Yesterday, Buck, I was driving home with my kids directly in front of me and I tweeted it out right along the Gulf of America in Panama City beach, where I was yesterday, a guy driving a jeep with a huge Trump 2028 flag. So I posted that picture, but I thought it kind of spoke. As we get ready for the 249th anniversary of the country, want all of you to have a fabulous time, download the podcast, go subscribe to Crockett Coffee, and we're going to be back with you on Monday. But we'll have shows live Thursday or Wednesday and Thursday and then a best of on Friday for the fourth. Do you have any spectacular fourth of July plans? What are you going to do? You mentioned you might go to the beach, which is delicate for your easily sunburned skin. Be careful.

[Clay Travis]

True. I'm probably going to take naps, read books, walk my dog and hang out with my wife and baby. I'm a wild man. I'm a wild man.

[Buck Sexton]

That is going to be fun. It's going to be. I'll be on with Glades.

[Clay Travis]

Like that is going to be fun.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, I'm going to be. I'm going to be on the beach Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, weather permitting here. And I'm gonna be watching the rest of the Harry Potter movies with my boys.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

This is probably one of many not very healthy things that I, I don't wear any sunscreen ever. Like, I, I just.

[Clay Travis]

What?

[Buck Sexton]

I just, I mean, I think you gotta have a tan and if you sunburn, like that's life, put it on the kids. But for myself, like, I, I don't like all the sunscreen. Everything else, just stay out of the sun if you're worried about getting sunburned.

[Clay Travis]

Otherwise, well, happy birthday, America from Clay and Buck. And we'll talk to you all on Monday.

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[Clay Travis]

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