The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Wellness Unmasked Weekly Rundown
Episode Title: Why Are Breastfeeding Rates Declining in the U.S.?
Date: September 12, 2025
Host: Dr. Nicole Saphier (guest hosting for Wellness Unmasked segment)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts
Brief Overview
This episode of the "Wellness Unmasked" weekly rundown, hosted by Dr. Nicole Saphier, focuses on the troubling decline of breastfeeding rates in the United States. Motivated by a recent off-camera conversation with the late Charlie Kirk—who expressed deep respect for his wife's breastfeeding efforts—the episode takes a heartfelt and evidence-backed look at why so many American mothers stop breastfeeding earlier than recommended, the health benefits of breastfeeding for both babies and mothers, and what changes can help support mothers to breastfeed longer.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
Remembering Charlie Kirk and the Impetus for the Episode
- [03:00] Dr. Saphier begins by paying tribute to Charlie Kirk and his legacy, emphasizing his roles in faith, family, and advocacy.
- Personal anecdote: Charlie's private curiosity and respect for breastfeeding, inspired by his wife, led to a meaningful discussion with Dr. Saphier—which serves as the launchpad for this episode.
Breastfeeding Statistics in the U.S.
- [04:10] "In the United States, about 83% of mothers start breastfeeding once the baby is born. But by six months, only about half of them are still breastfeeding at all. By one year, that number drops below 35%." — Dr. Nicole Saphier
- Contrasts with European nations: Over half of babies there are breastfed at one year, showing a substantial gap.
Why Breastfeeding Matters
- [04:45] Emphasis on science-backed benefits:
- For babies: Reduced risk of infections, SIDS, asthma, obesity, type 2 diabetes, stronger immune system, better brain development.
- For mothers: Lowered risk of breast and ovarian cancer, type 2 diabetes, postpartum depression, aids in baby weight loss.
- [05:15] "It's one of the most powerful natural preventative medicines we have. Yet it's underutilized." — Dr. Saphier
Why Are Breastfeeding Rates Declining?
- [05:35] Dr. Saphier discusses systemic barriers:
- Inadequate workplace policies for breaks and breastfeeding spaces.
- Hospitals lacking lactational support.
- Cultural taboos and societal discomfort.
- Aggressive formula industry marketing falsely equating formula to breast milk.
- [06:00] "The reality is that's not true at all." — Dr. Saphier disputing formula industry claims.
Solutions and Support for Breastfeeding Mothers
- [06:20] Concrete ideas for change:
- Normalize breastfeeding in public, work, and home spaces.
- Standardize private, clean spaces, and break times in workplaces.
- Enhanced lactation support in hospitals: lactational consultants, skin-to-skin, rooming-in after birth.
- Pediatricians promoting resources, not shaming, and asking about barriers.
- Emotional support from partners and family is crucial.
- [07:05] "It's nourishment. It's not shameful. It's just a boob, okay? Get used to it. It's fine." — Dr. Saphier on destigmatizing public breastfeeding.
- [07:46] "Whatever the work is, I'm pretty certain it can wait 15 minutes." — On prioritizing breast-pumping breaks.
Emotional Realities of Breastfeeding
- [07:28] Acknowledgment of difficulty:
- "Breastfeeding is hard. And anybody who says it's not, they're lying or they forgot. Maybe they have PTSD because of how hard it actually was." — Dr. Saphier
Concluding Message and Call to Action
- [07:56] Tying back to Charlie Kirk's values: If we value children, we must value and support mothers—breastfeeding support being a powerful, simple way to demonstrate that.
- Encouragement to continue conversations (even those not typically spoken of publicly by advocates like Charlie).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Highlight | |-----------|---------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:25 | Dr. Nicole Saphier | "He talked to me about breastfeeding... I love breastfeeding and what it does for our children and for our moms." | | 04:10 | Dr. Nicole Saphier | "In the United States, about 83% of mothers start breastfeeding once the baby is born. But by six months, only about half of them are still breastfeeding at all. By one year, that number drops below 35%." | | 05:15 | Dr. Nicole Saphier | "It's one of the most powerful natural preventative medicines we have. Yet it's underutilized." | | 07:05 | Dr. Nicole Saphier | "It's nourishment. It's not shameful. It's just a boob, okay? Get used to it. It's fine." | | 07:28 | Dr. Nicole Saphier | "Breastfeeding is hard. And anybody who says it's not, they're lying or they forgot. Maybe they have PTSD because of how hard it actually was." | | 07:46 | Dr. Nicole Saphier | "Whatever the work is, I'm pretty certain it can wait 15 minutes." | | 07:56 | Dr. Nicole Saphier | "If we truly value children, we have to value the mothers. And supporting breastfeeding is one of the simplest, most effective ways to do just that." |
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 03:00 – Tribute to Charlie Kirk and personal story launching the topic.
- 04:10 – U.S. breastfeeding statistics and decline over the first year.
- 04:45 – Health benefits of breastfeeding for babies and mothers.
- 05:35 – Systemic, workplace, and cultural barriers to breastfeeding.
- 06:20 – Actionable solutions: normalizing, work/life policies, hospital changes, provider roles.
- 07:05 – 07:46 – Quotes on destigmatization and practical advice for support.
- 07:56 – Closing call for greater societal support for breastfeeding in honor of Charlie Kirk's values.
Summary Tone and Delivery
Dr. Nicole Saphier speaks with warmth, conviction, and grounded expertise, using both personal experience and clear scientific data. The discussion acknowledges the realities and difficulties of breastfeeding, while advocating for cultural, medical, and policy changes to better support mothers. The emotional core of the episode is the tribute to Charlie Kirk and the reminder that supporting breastfeeding is central to valuing both mothers and children.
For anyone who hasn't listened, this episode is an accessible, passionate primer on the issue of declining breastfeeding in the U.S., packed with actionable ideas and memorable, relatable moments.
