A Little HARE Of the Dog

Summary

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The Commercial Break – “A Little HARE Of the Dog”

Air Date: May 28, 2026
Hosts: Bryan Green & Krissy Hoadley
Guest: Allison Hare (host of Culture Changers)

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Episode Overview

This episode celebrates podcasting longevity, friendship, and creative evolution as Bryan and Krissy co-host with their longtime friend and podcasting inspiration, Allison Hare. The conversation is part of Allison’s seven-hour livestream marathon for the seventh anniversary of her own show, Culture Changers. The trio shares their unique, behind-the-scenes perspectives on how to keep a podcast going, stay authentic, handle creative ruts, and why chemistry trumps strategy. Peppered with trademark irreverent humor, they also dive into the history of The Commercial Break (TCB), its origins, and how certain internet personalities (like Frankie B.) and internet trends have shaped their show.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Allison’s Podcasting Milestone & The TCB Origin Story

• [03:39] Allison: Marks seven years and almost 300 episodes for Culture Changers.
• Bryan credits Allison for inspiring him to start a podcast and identifies her role in shaping TCB’s direction towards comedy.
• Quote, Bryan [04:02]:
  “I’m not sure that The Commercial Break in its current form would exist without you putting out the siren song, siren call to do this cohort that I ended up joining... I think if I remember correctly, it was you who said, hey, you know, you should do a comedy podcast.”

2. On Endurance and Authenticity in Podcasting

• Bryan admires Allison’s never-quit mentality:
  “One thing you got to give to Allison is that she has never given up. She’s always found the next version of Culture Changers to do. And for I think that’s incredibly brave and bold...” [08:53]
• Allison shares two key lessons from seven years:
  • Don’t Mimic, Be Yourself:
    “I would get to the point where...I was, like, editing so much out of my own so that it would fit in this little tiny box... and you were the one, Bryan, where you’re like, if they’re not going to listen, fuck them… you have to go to yourself.” [09:47]
  • Helping Others Find Their Podcast Voice: She now coaches founders and consultants, focusing less on tech and more on authenticity and self-acceptance.

3. Being Consistently Imperfect is the Point

• Bryan on consistency breeding authenticity:
  “Perfection is the enemy of consistency. And consistency is the key... Sometimes allows you to be authentic because there’s no other choice.” [12:04]
• Chrissy and Bryan admit many episodes aren’t their “funniest” but the core friendship keeps listeners hooked.
• Notable Apple Podcast review:
  “This is the dumbest, funniest, stupidest, smartest show about friendship I’ve ever heard.” [18:35]

4. On Chemistry & Co-Hosts

• The group discusses the difficulty and magic of finding the right podcast partner:
  • Allison: “There has to be a special chemistry... I could not imagine this show being the same show if there was somebody else...” [20:08]
  • Bryan: Connects co-hosting to a relationship:
    “Sometimes you need your co-host to be the other 80%.” [17:09]
  • Advice: Don’t look for business partners in friends if the tone won’t match—chemistry is key.

5. Frankie B. – The Mascot & Influence on TCB

• Origins: Frankie B., YouTuber Frank Bernardo, was discovered as a niche “dating coach” influencing much of TCB’s content and in-jokes.
• Memorable Quote, Bryan [27:56]:
  “I’m not sure the commercial break exists without Frankie B, if I’m being honest.”
• The show’s ongoing fascination with Frankie B. and how their audience started trolling his channel with inside jokes.

6. Navigating Trends, YouTube Trolls & Lines Not to Cross

• Bryan and Chrissy explain their process of finding (and sometimes abandoning) internet personalities if content reveals troubling real-life issues (such as apparent drug addiction).
• Bryan [38:00]:
  “I’m not going to make fun of someone’s clearly complicated and desperate addiction... there is a line that I don’t cross, believe it or not.”

7. Content Planning (or Not)

• The “non-strategy” at TCB:
  • Bryan keeps an ongoing list of ideas but ultimately, spontaneity and whatever’s real “that day” drives episodes.
  • Chrissy [44:35]:
    “Find somebody you can just wing it with and get on a microphone.”
• Allison teases them about their lack of planning:
  • “So what I’m hearing is you don’t plan anything. There’s no strategy. You just wing it.” [44:29]

8. The Business of Podcasting

• Candid look at inconsistency of podcast revenue and the volatility of digital media.
• Why TCB avoids jumping on trends for downloads and sticks to their “bland and mediocre” middle lane for a loyal audience.
  • Bryan [43:11]:
    “If you just stay bland and mediocre, then you can get a good base of people just to listen to you, no matter what you say.”

9. Upcoming and Favorite Segments

• Allison’s livestream continues with a feature on Jen Cooper, a president of a company and Appalachian Trail hiker [45:26].
• Excitement for upcoming TCB episodes on “Frankie B.” and “Mountain Monsters.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [04:02] Bryan: “I’m not sure that The Commercial Break in its current form would exist without you...”
• [12:04] Bryan: “Perfection is the enemy of consistency. And consistency is the key...”
• [18:35] Apple Review (Bryan reads): “This is the dumbest, funniest, stupidest, smartest show about friendship I’ve ever heard.”
• [27:56] Bryan: “I’m not sure the commercial break exists without Frankie B, if I’m being honest.”
• [44:35] Chrissy: “Find somebody you can just wing it with and get on a microphone.”
• [43:11] Bryan: “If you just stay bland and mediocre, then you can get a good base of people just to listen to you, no matter what you say.”

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Highlighted Timestamps

| Time | Segment/Topic | |----------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:39-05:03 | Allison’s marathon, TCB origins, and mutual podcasting inspiration | | 07:15-09:15 | What Culture Changers is about; fiery topics, passionate discussions | | 09:47-12:04 | Being authentic vs. mimicking; the importance of self-acceptance | | 12:04-14:09 | Consistency and authenticity in podcasting | | 18:35 | What makes TCB unique—listener feedback: “a show about friendship” | | 20:08-24:26 | Podcast chemistry, co-host serendipity, Clubhouse reflections | | 26:16-33:28 | Frankie B.’s influence, origin story, and audience reaction | | 36:08-38:00 | New internet personalities, boundaries for content, refusing to mock serious addiction | | 39:23-44:29 | How (not) to plan podcast content, why they don’t chase viral trends | | 45:26-46:12 | Allison previews upcoming guest/book |

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Episode Tone & Style

• Casual, self-deprecating, and unfiltered—the hosts embrace “winging it” as a virtue.
• Lively, supportive banter with playful teasing and open admiration, especially toward guest Allison.
• Candid about creative struggles but focused on the joy of just showing up and being themselves.
• Laid-back but thoughtful exploration of internet absurdities, audience loyalty, and why friendship is at the heart of TCB.

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Final Thoughts

This collaborative episode is a blueprint for resilient creativity: make something true to your voice, don’t over-edit, and if you’re lucky, find a co-host whose chemistry with you is the real show. With long-standing inside jokes, meta-critique of internet culture, and a celebration of lasting friendship, this episode stands as a love letter to longevity and not taking yourself—or your podcast—too seriously.

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Want More?
Check out Culture Changers for deeper dives, and stay tuned to TCB for more on Frankie B., Mountain Monsters, and whatever Bryan and Krissy riff on next.

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Transcript

[Brian Green]

The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, my gosh, Brian. The entire front of the episode got cut off. Where in the world is the intro to our episode? I'm always keeping you on your toes here at the commercial break. Eight wonderful years ago, my wife pushed me out into the podcasting universe in an effort to get me to shut the fuck up. It worked. Now, for at least six hours a week, I'm talking to Chrissy and not Astrid. However, that's not the entire story. It took a little extra nudge from a former co worker, good friend, wonderful human, and podcasting queen, Alison Hair. Alison's been doing her own podcast for about a year longer than Chrissy and I have been doing ours. It's took on different forms and fashions over the years, but the name is Culture Changers. It's nothing like the commercial break. And that's a good thing. She usually talks to serious people about serious subjects, things thought provoking, sometimes controversial. And it's likely that her serious podcast gets more laughs than our comedy podcast. I'm not jealous. Swear to God I'm not. Alison is a thoughtful, self aware, interesting and restless human that I find endlessly fascinating. Besides all of our podcast connections, she is really a dear friend of ours. Celebrating her seventh year of doing the show, she decided to do seven hours of live streaming. She asked me to join and help kill some time, and I said, I'll do you one better. Let's do a co show. A co show with the Bro show. And I hope I can get the technology to work. So we're not a no show. So we're gonna take a short break early in this episode so you can hear our conversation with Alison Hare in its entirety from her live stream celebrating seven years of culture changers. We'll be back right after this.

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[Allison Hare]

Hi.

[Brian Green]

I got you. Hi. Wow. This appears to be working. Except our camera on our feed is not on. Hold on one second. Let me see if I can turn it on. There we go. Okay. All right. You can see us.

[Allison Hare]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

Okay, great. Hi.

[Chrissy]

Hello.

[Allison Hare]

Allison. I'm gonna shut off this Instagram live feed, okay. We're on a marathon right now.

[Brian Green]

Oh.

[Allison Hare]

So if you're watching on Instagram, go on YouTube, and I'll be back in an hour.

[Brian Green]

All right.

[Allison Hare]

Hi, guys.

[Brian Green]

Hey. How are you?

[Allison Hare]

I'm great. I'm excited for you.

[Brian Green]

Yes, excited, too.

[Chrissy]

Congratulations on your big anniversary.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Allison Hare]

Seven years.

[Chrissy]

Wow.

[Brian Green]

What? How many hours are you into this now?

[Allison Hare]

I'm almost up to 300 episodes. I mean, I'm not commercial break.

[Brian Green]

No one's commercial break. No one's dumb enough to be commercial break level. Yeah. That's just silly. We were just talking on the intro. We were talking about how this kind of all coalesced, like your role in standing up the commercial break. Your role. And I. I was saying to everybody that I'm. I'm not sure that the commercial break in its current form would exist without you putting out the siren song, siren call to. To. To do this cohort that I ended up joining. And then, you know, I think it. I think if I remember correctly, it was you who said, hey, you know, you should do a comedy podcast. Right? That's what you should do. And. And then. And then in my mind, it all took a turn. I was like, okay, well, I guess, you know, I have a sense of humor. Maybe somebody wants to hear it. And then I invited Chrissy to come on because, you know, it was about three and a half months between the end of that cohort and the first episode of the commercial break. So it took me a while, even still, to get up the courage to go on the microphone and do it. And I didn't want to do it by myself, so I found that Chrissy was a good backstop.

[Allison Hare]

You'll do.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. I said. Hey, well, if you're around, you, you could do it.

[Chrissy]

Yeah. Jump on for one episode.

[Allison Hare]

Sounds like you have nothing Better to do.

[Chrissy]

Well, it was April of 2020.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Chrissy]

We were all stuck at home.

[Allison Hare]

We really literally did have nothing better.

[Chrissy]

Literally.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Chrissy]

Wiping off groceries.

[Brian Green]

I think we recorded our first episode on. On March 15th. Exactly is when we recorded it. And I put it out about three weeks later. It took me edit that first episode

[Allison Hare]

seven hour live stream on March 15, 2027.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Could you. Well, we've already done the 12 hours of TCB. Yeah, yeah, we. We've been there, done that. And then we did the 23 days of TCB for Christmas, so there was that too.

[Chrissy]

I literally was driving for punishment. I know. I was driving in an hour.

[Brian Green]

I think she was here on Chris on Christmas Eve, if I'm not mistaken, all through December. Yeah, it was crazy. How many hours are you into the marathon now? Are you just a couple of hours in?

[Allison Hare]

I'm just a couple of hours in. So I started at one. It's 308 now.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Allison Hare]

My voice is getting ragged, but I'm good. I'm doing fine. Are you, you know, like, waiting for you. I'm like, all right, I gotta think of something.

[Brian Green]

I gotta think of something to say.

[Allison Hare]

I'm like, I. I could go into a whole nother round, but you guys could pop in at any time. So you guys came at the perfect time.

[Brian Green]

Ok, good, good. So what, so what is the agenda for the seven hours? Like, when you're mapping this out in your mind, how do you play it out? Like, do you have a list of topics that you want to discuss? Do you have other people besides us that are coming in? I hope.

[Allison Hare]

Yes, all of the above. But actually I was trying not to over prepare for this because it would just stress me out. Like if I have too much structure and order, I'm. I'm. I'll like run through real fast and like be nervous and weird, like. Yeah, you know.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's why we don't do episodes. Yeah, that's why we don't plan for our episodes either.

[Allison Hare]

So when I think about culture changers. So the. The podcast is like where I love to throw gasoline on fiery topics like power, politics, religion, relationships, money. So I figure I'll do an hour for each. There you go.

[Brian Green]

Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah. Are we in the. Which hour are we in? Are we in the sex hour or what?

[Allison Hare]

You're in the. You're in the.

[Brian Green]

We're in the comedy hour. We're in the mediocre comedy hour.

[Chrissy]

Right. We're in the break. You're in the mediocre yeah, we're in

[Brian Green]

the break the hour. She's not going to rebroadcast, right? Yeah. Okay, so now. So I know this is your show. I don't know whose show it is, but it's. Well, we'll assume it's a co show. Right. Tell me, what have you learned over seven years of podcasting about yourself, about the nature of digital media? What have you learned? What's the big takeaway? If you've had to stop tomorrow, put it down. What would you say? That. That this period of your life, this thing that you've done that you've held on to so tightly? I was telling the audience before we jumped in. I said, you know, good, bad, and different. One thing you got to give to Allison is that she has never given up. She's never put it down. She's always found the next version of culture changers to do. And for I. I think that's incredibly brave and bold of you. And, you know, I. I said, even takes dedication. Yeah, it takes dedication. Even in times of great success with the commercial break, I have sometimes felt like, okay, that's enough. Like, okay, let's put it down now. Yeah. Honestly, sometimes it is a big fuck this, but, you know, but you find a way, and you. And you wake up the next day, and it's. You know, give it a minute. It's like a relationship. Yeah. You have your moments with it. Right. And some of those moments, you just want to say, fuck you. This is. I've had enough. And then other moments, you're madly in love, and a lot of the time, it's just somewhere in between. You know, it's like, well, this is what we're doing.

[Allison Hare]

I have to say, in answer to your question, there are really two. Two main things that are coming up. One is. One is something that you had helped me with, is that I would get to the point where I think it's natural for us, as somebody who consumes podcasts, that when you are creating your own show, that it's natural to kind of mimic what you hear. So if you're listening to Jay Shetty or Mel Robbins or Lewis Howes or whoever it is, you almost are like, all right, I can do that, but if it's not your voice, it's not your voice. And so I had gotten to the point where I was, like, editing so much out of my own so that it would fit in this little tiny box that it needs to be 30 minutes. It's gotta not have any ums and ahs and you were the one, Brian, where you're like, if they're not going to listen, fuck them. You know, like, they're not the right people. You have to go to yourself. And so, you know, I work now as a podcast strategist, so I help people. I help predominantly founders, like coaches, consultants, people that are, like, mission driven and have some type of thought leadership. But I help them launch and grow podcasts. And most of my time is not spent teaching people about podcasting, but it is kind of welcoming them home to themselves. And one thing I know about you, Brian, I remember when we first started, like, your first iteration of your podcast, when you were going to do, like a commercial, real estate.

[Chrissy]

We were just talking about that.

[Allison Hare]

That would have been boring as shit.

[Brian Green]

It was. I did a number of episodes.

[Allison Hare]

Could have figured out a fun way. Yeah, but when you released your first few episodes, my jaw was on the floor. And the reason why my jaw is on the floor is that knowing you and Chrissy, both of you for so many years, and you had shared with me, Brian, where you said, you know, I just think of these voices and I think of these characters, and I, you know, I mean, what am I going to do with, like, stupid voices and characters? And you had put, like, you had created your own commercials before your own show, and they were so ridiculous and so outlandish, but it was such a shock to the system of, like, surprise of you were not expecting that. And that's what I love about your show. And why, Why, I know it took off because you did something unexpected, but you stayed completely true to yourself. And then I sit and listen to you guys, and I'm like, God, I wish I could riff like that. I wish I could. I wish I could not think about what I was gonna right out.

[Brian Green]

Well, I think that perfection is the. Perfection is the enemy of consistency. And consistency is the key to honestly, like, consistency. And the need to get it done sometimes allows you to be authentic because there's no other choice. You just have to do it. You just to go and do it. And. And I think that's part of the key to the commercial break is that. Am I always 100% Brian Green on the commercial break? No, you'll not find me to be, you know, so ornery or so brusque, like, outside of the commercial break sometimes. But that's a part of the muscle of Brian Green that I can exercise when I'm here to accentuate something that I want to make funny or more interesting or give it that. But the need to get the episode done. The fact that it's got to be there allows me to sit back. It's kind of like, I would imagine, the people who take off to go to the moon. Once you're strapped in, just let go and let it happen. It's like being on an airplane. You're going to take off and you're going to land or you're not. Enjoy the ride. Stop stressing about it. And so I think. Think that that consistency, that need to be consistent for. For us, allowed us to get so many reps in that eventually it really was authentic because that we're just turning on the microphones and that's it. That's all we're doing.

[Chrissy]

We're doing six shows.

[Brian Green]

I don't have time to cut out the ums and all. Yeah, you're doing 12 episodes a day. Yeah, you don't have time to cut out the ums and odds. You don't have time to be particularly persnickety about this or fussy about that. We've put a lot of episodes in the can for one reason or the other, but none of them were because I had too many ums or Oz or because I. I got it wrong. I wanted to say this, and I. I ended up saying that it was only because I had fear that we. We took it to something too far. I didn't like the subject matter that I felt. I thought it was tasteless or in bad taste. And that's saying a lot. If you've listened to the commercial break and I put something in the can

[Chrissy]

or we talked about Scientology and we had made.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah.

[Chrissy]

Technical.

[Brian Green]

That's right. Every time we have. Every time we tried to do an episode about Scientology, it ends up that it doesn't get recorded. It's. There's some kind of static. There is. Yeah.

[Chrissy]

It's really weird.

[Brian Green]

We've done it, like four or five separate times, and every time there is some technical issue that we're not aware of in the. In the moment that appears later on. And we don't run the episode because it just sounds terrible. It's really weird, actually. Either it's real coincidence or, I don't know, space lasers or something like that. I don't know.

[Allison Hare]

Jewish space lasers.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Right. But I think that that's like. I think one of the things that you and I have talked about a lot in your evolution is how do I get over my need to overanalyze everything that I'm. That I'm doing? And I just shared with you Once that, and I remember the conversation. You know, people are going to like you or they're not going to like you, and it's not going to be because of a number or an awe. The only people who would be persnickety about that are other podcasters or audio files. And, you know, maybe you want them in your audience, maybe you don't, but honestly, you probably don't. Like, if that's the. If that's the degree of judgment they're going to put on everything that you do, why do you want them in your audience? Fuck them. Let them go listen to Jay Shetty. I mean, you know, it's like, let him go listen to someone else if that's what it's going to be. How do you still feel the need? Like, I feel the need. Like, it's compulsive to get an episode out there every week.

[Allison Hare]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's compulsive, isn't it? Doesn't it feel compulsive?

[Allison Hare]

Yeah, I don't. It does, but I also. There are times when I'm like, I don't need to post one. Yeah, I can give them. Yeah, I think there is, but I think that is just it. It comes with having, like when you have a podcast, because it's not like it requires work. Like, you treat it like a job because it. It is when you show up. But certainly taking a break, there's.

[Chrissy]

There.

[Allison Hare]

I do, I do get. Yes, I. I definitely feel compulsive about it. And I also have a huge bank to pull from.

[Brian Green]

Oh, can I borrow some money?

[Allison Hare]

Interviews. So what's that?

[Brian Green]

I said, can I borrow some money?

[Allison Hare]

You can, absolutely. I'm curious for you guys, like, do you ever show up where you're like, I'm just not funny today.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like 90% of the time.

[Chrissy]

Well, the good thing about having the two of us, I think, is that maybe one of us is in a different mood than the other and then we can really kind of start riffing on each other. Yeah, that helps. But. Yeah, yeah, I agree with one of us by ourselves. That would be hard.

[Brian Green]

It's a relationship. Yeah, right. It's just like a relationship. It's like sometimes I, Astrid and I look at our relationship like this and I think there's a. Astrid's my wife. Yeah. No, and that. That is the mistake that is often made by people who don't know us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Astrid, my wife and I, a long time ago decided, I don't know where we saw this, but I Liked it. And I like when you. Especially when you have children, you come in and you say, I'm at 20% today, hon. Like, you know, and I need you to. I need you to be the other 80%. And she'll say that to me a lot, too. And I think it's unspoken in the room. That's not how we address it in the room, but I think it's unspoken in the room that there's a lot of days where, you know, I got a lot going on. Chrissy's got a lot going on. We come in here, it's a break for us. So we have a little bubble. There's a little bubble in the room, but there's also, like, interplay. There's interpersonal tension that sometimes happens, but whenever we turn on the microphones, I think it somehow finds a way. Right. And I'm. I know there are days where we put together an episode, and I'm like,

[Chrissy]

not the best done that before, but

[Brian Green]

since we put out 12 episodes a day, it doesn't matter. Yeah. You got to put it out. Yeah. But I've heard from a lot of people over the years, and especially the ones who are like, kind of like more like hardcore commercial break listeners. I've heard from a lot of people that the nature of our friendship and the nature of the interplay and the nature of the back and forth is what makes them keep listening. It's not the punch lines. It's not the funny voices that come out sometimes. It's not the, you know, Brian being angry about the next dumb thing. It's that Chrissy and I and the friendship is what shines through and that. It's like they're watching a soap opera that doesn't have much drama. Right. It's just two idiots just kind of sitting there. And I think. I think that they appreciate that. Two or three years ago, someone wrote us an email, I think it was. And they said. Or they wrote us a review on Apple. And the review said, this is the dumbest, funniest, stupidest, smartest show about friendship I've ever heard. Yeah. And so that I had struggled for so many years to describe to people what exactly the commercial break was besides mediocre comedy podcast. And it struck me when. When I read that review, when we read that review, I said, it's a show about friendship. That's what it is. It's a show about friendship. So.

[Chrissy]

As if we were talking to each other in a bar like we used to do all the time.

[Brian Green]

Exactly. So it doesn't need to be funny all the time. Sometimes it's just, you know, we're not in the greatest of moods, and here's what we're thinking about right now. But I think that that's the. Also the benefit of having someone else in the room. I cannot imagine having done a thousand hours without Chrissy or without someone else in the. Like, just by myself. The original plan, I can't imagine I'd be in episode 100, let alone 1000. I really can't. I can't imagine that. So I give you so many people

[Allison Hare]

that wish they would have a show where they're like, hey, my best friend and I. You know, people tell us all the time we should start a podcast. And it's not always like, there has to be a special chemistry. Like, you guys are magnificent. Like, I could not imagine this show being the same show if there was somebody else in either one of your seats, you know, like, it just wouldn't. You guys really, really are magic. And I. I wonder what your advice is for people who want to have a podcast. They want to have a co host, but, like, finding that chemistry and somebody that can play off each other and behind the scenes is, you know, on the same page. That's. That's like a whole nother thing. It's like going into business with somebody, you know?

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Well, I'll say this. I mean, I was just thinking about this. You and I, Allison, for like, a year, did probably just as much content on Clubhouse as Chrissy and I did at inside of the commercial break studio, if not more. That's right.

[Chrissy]

Clubhouse.

[Allison Hare]

Clubhouse is still going strong.

[Brian Green]

I know. We just looked it up the other day going.

[Allison Hare]

Tell you about this. What I went to. I went to an event where there is somebody that. It was a speaking event, and there was a guy who, like, gets a ton of business from clubhouse by doing this, like, breakfast club meeting. I think that started when we were, like, back in our clubhouse.

[Brian Green]

It sounds familiar. Yeah.

[Allison Hare]

Steam. It's still a thing.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Well, I don't know if it's still going like it. What used to. Because we went in there and that was gangbusters. Yeah, that when we were there. Yeah, it was. It was a blast. When. Now. When we looked at it the other day.

[Chrissy]

The other day.

[Brian Green]

I don't know what version. I don't know how to describe this without being too rowdy about it. It was really. First of all, it seemed to me that at least the. The rooms that we were getting served were very much focused crypto Rooms. Hip hop culture, I think, is probably the best way to describe it. It was more.

[Chrissy]

I don't even know what we were talking about. We thought we heard Lebron, but it was not Lebron.

[Brian Green]

They were in a. They were talking about Iran, but they were really talking about who was going to sleep with Lebron.

[Chrissy]

It was weird.

[Brian Green]

It was weird. And then I think we heard the N word five times in the 13 seconds we were on the.

[Chrissy]

Yeah, we were like, okay, okay, well,

[Brian Green]

we'll dip out of this real quick. You know.

[Allison Hare]

Did you record that?

[Chrissy]

Like, yes, we did it on.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, we did it as part of the show. Yeah.

[Chrissy]

That's where we're at, too, where we just look up stuff on our phone.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. We're just like, whatever. Okay. All right, let's do it. I think it's. I think in a lot of ways, the commercial break has gotten tighter by getting looser. We used to be that we would do a video at first season number three. I think, like, 100 of those 300 episodes are just us, like, reviewing videos. It became like a video review show for a while, and then we were doing nothing but interviews for a while. And then, I mean, you know, there's been, like, iterations of the show. We were. I was doing the bits for a long time, and I still do them on occasion, but it takes so much time that it's just not something that I'm afforded right in this moment. But I was going to say, to answer your question, like, there. My advice to people is, like, you and I had chemistry in a different way. Right. We were doing those rooms night after night, day after day, time after time, and we were good in those rooms together doing what we were doing. Regarding podcasting, you find the right person for the right tone that you want to set. You have lots of people in your life. You're probably. They're probably good at different things. They like, you know, the friend you're gonna go to the Grateful Dead concert with, and you know the friend you're gonna go to the Jonas Brothers concert with. Right. My friend is Astrid. That's why I go to the Jonas Brothers concert with. But I would go to the Grateful Dead concert with Chrissy.

[Allison Hare]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Right. So there's like, you have those people in your life. You've gotta find the person that sets the tone. I know Chrissy will laugh at my jokes. I've known her for a long time. She finds me incredibly enduring and charming and handsome. Who doesn't find me handsome? That's right.

[Chrissy]

Well, I find it Most funny when we're making fun of you.

[Brian Green]

Yes. Which is most of the show. Yes, most of the show is me making fun of me and Chrissy laughing.

[Chrissy]

The Misadventures.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. The Misadventures of Brian Green.

[Allison Hare]

Oh, no.

[Brian Green]

This is the next podcast we're gonna start, the Misadventures of bg. That would be a good one, actually. I'd listen to that. Yeah. So, you know, people want to start a podcast. You know, I think if you're going to do a chat cast, if you're going to do more than one person in the room, you should obviously know who you're getting involved with to some degree and they should fit the mode or the, the tone of whatever it is you're about to do. If you do a business podcast, don't do it with the guy that you get with in the garage. Still trying to. Who's in a band still at 52 years old. Right. Don't do that guy. Do somebody in your office who you could talk to. You could. Who you know is smart about business and can. You guys can have an elevated conversation about that. That's. That's my advice. So Chrissy just was the right fit, the right tone for the commercial break. It was silly and it was stupid and Chrissy found it to be funny and she's right, it is mostly me just being self effacing about my own ridiculous life. So.

[Chrissy]

Yeah, we don't take ourselves too seriously at all.

[Brian Green]

Oh, we never take ourselves seriously.

[Allison Hare]

No, I mean, I think my favorite, My favorites are always the, the religious takedowns, the pastor takedowns, and like the dating. The dating guru.

[Chrissy]

Those are so. Those are so such an easy target.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Allison Hare]

Are we still doing Frankie B.

[Brian Green]

We have a Frankie B. For tomorrow. Actually, we have a Frankie B.

[Allison Hare]

For tomorrow. Who is Frankie B. Frankie, tell the culture changers.

[Chrissy]

Oh, yeah, Frankie B.

[Brian Green]

Is Frank Bernardo.

[Chrissy]

You found him. What? Found him five years ago.

[Brian Green]

I found him. I think late season one. Yeah, yeah, in late season one. So five or six years ago almost now. And I found him on YouTube. I was trolling around on YouTube looking for pickup artists specifically. And even though I didn't. I don't call Frankie a pickup artist because I don't think you could pick anybody up with his advice. But what he was, was an old fashioned fashion, music, fitness and fun. I'm Frank Bernardo.

[Chrissy]

Well, it was. No, it was advice for men over a certain age.

[Brian Green]

Over 40 when we started and that's over 60. Yeah, we've only been doing this for six years. But now it's for men over 60. He was giving advice to men over 40.

[Chrissy]

Just become divorced, and we're trying to get back in the game.

[Brian Green]

He didn't even say that. He said, still trying to live your best life or whatever it was. But the first video I found from him was five. Five signs, your wife is cheating on you. And I saw the first three minutes of it and I was so fascinated and laughing so hard at this guy. And it had like 12 views. I mean, it was nothing. And I said, christy, we gotta listen to this guy. And it was instant magic. I mean, I'm not sure the commercial break exists without Frankie B, if I'm being honest.

[Chrissy]

I know we did a lot.

[Brian Green]

He's such a. He's such a fabric of the show. But the truth is, over the last couple of years, Frankie, when he finds a girlfriend. So he puts out videos and bursts. Yeah, he stops doing content when he's dating somebody, and then when they break

[Chrissy]

up, then that's when the.

[Brian Green]

He gets angry.

[Chrissy]

That's when the gold comes out. Because he tries to tell people what not to do based on. Based on what happened to him.

[Brian Green]

So he doesn't tell, like stories from his relationship, but he'll tell stuff that's so, like, so specific.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

If someone puts their phone down when. If you're at a Ruby Tuesdays on a Thursday night in Chicago, Illinois, and your girlfriend puts her phone down and it's a text message from Jason that says, hey, you want to fuck? Then it's likely she's cheating on you. Just remember that, guys. And you're like, oh, okay, so Jason was fucking your girlfriend. Got it, Ted. For like, he's so transparent. He's so thin. He's just like. It just bubbles out of him. And he's done travel reviews, business reviews, neighborhood reviews, restaurant reviews. Yeah. The guy is just. He has tried. He also. I gotta give him credit too, because he's been through his own iterations also, and he just keeps evolving as a content creator, yet stuck in the same small mind. But he's. He's really. He's fantastic. And so. But he did put out recently another video, and we're very excited to see what Frankie's up to. We found him on Instagram too. Yeah, actually, Christina, our. Our editor at one time, our producer at one time found him on Instagram. And so we learned a little bit more about who he was and what he was up to. He has kids and they're older, and he's got an ex wife or two. I think. But Frank, the thing about Frank is about Frankie.

[Chrissy]

We gave him the Frankie name.

[Brian Green]

We gave him Frankie. Yeah. He calls himself Frank Bernardo. Right. And you can look him up on YouTube. Thing about Frank is Frankie is when we started doing his videos, I started noticing that his view counts were going up and the comment section was people were starting to call him Frankie B. And they were starting to parrot some of the things that we were saying. They were like trolling him, but not like being mean, just trolling him, but saying the same stuff. Like one of the, one of the videos, he says, look at my body.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

When you walk into a bar, you want the women to say, look at you, look at that guy. You want, you want, without saying it to say, look at my body, look at my body. And I used to start, I would scream that every time that we would do a Frankie B. Look at my body. And people started putting, hey, Frankie, look at your body. It was like crazy that people were going there and his view count started going up and they started trolling him. I think that Frankie knows we exist.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Because when you.

[Allison Hare]

100%.

[Brian Green]

100%.

[Allison Hare]

Because when you do, that's why he goes underground.

[Brian Green]

No, I don't.

[Allison Hare]

I think he has any self awareness.

[Brian Green]

I do actually. I imagine in my head that Frankie actually probably has a pretty good sense of humor about all this. I think he's too blustery. Not. He's too ego driven to stop. And I think if he watched one of our videos, I think he would appreciate the views. I don't think he'd appreciate the point of view. I think he appreciates the views. Right. But here's why I hundred percent believe Frankie knows we exist. Because when you do a video on YouTube, you will get. If someone reviews your video or puts your video up there, YouTube's algorithm will catch it and they will tell the other person that your, hey, your videos on this video make sure they're not busting your copyright. Right. I've gotten that before. People have taken parts of our videos and put them out there for this or that or the other thing. And we've gotten notifications that our videos, videos are out there. So I know he's at least been alerted. I mean, who knows, Maybe he doesn't know how to work YouTube. But we have, for so many years, we have thought to ourselves, when is the right time to reach out to Frankie and tell him to come on to the show?

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And I have a thought that maybe for the thousandth episode, everything you have,

[Allison Hare]

I know, everything on this guy for years.

[Brian Green]

I would love to just ask him about everything. Where do you live? What is your story? Tell me about your first wife that you're so angry at. Tell me about your kids. You know, is that an apartment that you live in or is that the.

[Chrissy]

We've thought about it.

[Brian Green]

We've thought about it.

[Chrissy]

I think the mystery. I. I don't even know if he would, because it's obvious. Like, in the apartment thing, there were all of those waters. I mean, it was a show apartment.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. He was videotaping out of a show apartment. Yeah. I mean, out of, like, a model apartment.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

In an apartment complex. And when he. When he did a couple videos that we knew it was in, it was a completely different kitchen. It was like a tiny little apartment. It was definitely a man cave. Yeah. I mean, you know, but God bless, I could be there in 10 years. Who knows? Like, I don't wanna. I don't wanna bust on him too much.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Allison Hare]

Play your cards wrong.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, you play your cards wrong. I do love Frankie B. Oh, I know.

[Chrissy]

He's endearing.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. At first I just made fun of him. I just, like, thought, what a cheese ball, you know? Didn't really think all that much of him. The more that we got to know Frankie through his videos, the more I actually started to really fall in love with Frankie B.

[Chrissy]

Like, he's one of a kind.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Or my cartoon version of him. Right. I was. I was making it up as we go along and just. I thought to myself, wow. I actually think if I went and had a beer with Frankie B. I'd probably get along with the guy.

[Chrissy]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

I'd probably have fun with him.

[Allison Hare]

Him.

[Brian Green]

I think he was funny. I used to have a friend. Chrissy and I used to have a friend. He smelled bad.

[Chrissy]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

He was just like. He was a comic book. I don't even. Not even a dork. Just like a comic book loser. But he had all the money in the world. That was the only thing that made him different than, like, the comic book loser was he had all the money in the world. He came from, like, an extremely wealthy family. But besides that, he was like a comic book. I never get laid was because you smell like shit. Take a fucking shower. Maybe you'll get laid. Right. It's because the first thing you say to a woman is that you have a small penis. It's like, you know, these are things of reason. He was like, just. He could not get out of his own way. And if you met him, it was Likely you were just going to be so annoyed by him. Everybody, except for a few of us, everybody just didn't like being around the guy, right? He was an oh, me, poor me. Everything sucks. I hate life, Life hates me. You know, I can't get anything right kind of guy. But I fell in love with him because he just was a caricature that I. That I connected with in some way. I found it funny. I found it enduring. I found him actually to be charming and quite sweet if you got to know him.

[Chrissy]

Yeah, he was a nice guy.

[Brian Green]

He was a nice guy, but when he got out in the real world, he just couldn't.

[Chrissy]

He just didn't have any confidence.

[Brian Green]

He didn't have any deodorant either.

[Chrissy]

No, he didn't.

[Brian Green]

He smelled so bad. I remember having to wash my hands. My, like, pleather sofa when he left. Like, I gotta watch this. He smells so bad.

[Allison Hare]

Awful. I can't believe you guys make money just trolling around on YouTube for like, dipshits.

[Brian Green]

That's it. That's it.

[Allison Hare]

That's curious, you know, what are you seeing? Like, what trends are you seeing out there? Do you see like, new accounts or YouTube accounts popping up that is kind of showing there's. There's a new, like, subculture or something coming up that's fun to watch?

[Chrissy]

Well, we did find that one guy, which we ended up not really wanting to go back to the well to visit. He was the younger guy that was falling asleep.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Polly. Polly poly couch cushions. Yeah, yeah. We found one guy and we thought this is the new Frankie B.

[Chrissy]

Right?

[Brian Green]

He was a younger guy and he was really like, hardcore. Like, he's a hardcore misogynist. New Jersey, you know, Jersey Boy.

[Allison Hare]

I heard one of your episodes on that and I could not stop listening.

[Brian Green]

We. We were fascinated. Yeah, we were fascinated by this guy. Really were. And we did probably five or six videos on him, but there was an issue. So. So the answer to your question is yes. I troll the Internet constantly. I'm always looking for. For new stuff. We haven't done videos in a while, actually probably or four months since we've done a video simply because we started streaming live and I didn't want to over complicate our live situation. But we figured it out. Actually, we figured it out with you just fine. Yeah, but we figured it out. So. But we, we have found. To Chrissy's point, we have found people before where we start going down the rabbit hole with them and then we see something that's not as funny. Yeah, like troubling, not as funny. We think we might be amplifying something that we don't want to amplify. And this guy clearly had a drug problem. Clearly had a drug problem. And he was like nodding out in the mid, mid sentence.

[Chrissy]

He was like, why he was posting

[Brian Green]

those, I don't, I don't know either. But he seemed to have his girlfriend behind the camera sometimes. And they were still posting these like long soliloquies that he was doing. But some of them were like high energy, eyeballs blaring. You know, he was going, going, going. And then within a heartbeat, he would be like, he'd be nodding out like Donald Trump at a cabinet meeting. Yeah, yeah. Like, it was so weird. So we stopped doing him just because I thought, well, I'm not going to make fun of someone's clearly complicated and desperate addiction. Like, that's. I don't, I don't want to do that. I'm not, I'm not that guy. So there is a line that I don't cross, believe it or not.

[Allison Hare]

Did you guys watch the Manosphere documentary?

[Brian Green]

I did, yeah, I did.

[Allison Hare]

I mean, it seems like there's even from the misogynistic aspect, like there is no line, right? It doesn't matter.

[Brian Green]

No, there's no line. But that, that, but that. Those are characters that those people are playing. I think they believe in some of it, but I also think that they just know, amplify, simplify it. They know where the clicks are and that's what they're doing. They're looking for a quick payday and they're getting it. And so it's just, you know, I wouldn't want to be in the same room with any of those people. I certainly wouldn't invite them onto my show. But I do see the strategy behind what they're doing, but I see it for what it is. It's just a strategy to get money. That's it. It's just, it's. It's like a lot of people these days, they're chasing the extreme on one side or the other because they know that those extreme videos, the algorithm favors them. So they, they doesn't matter what they're saying, as long as it's extreme and as long as it's bothering people or inciting people, then they're going to continue to get views and those views pay the bills. And so it's wild. I think a lot of these people who were very much non. Political, non in that arena all of a sudden jumped on the bandwagon because they saw the grift and they saw it happening and they wanted to jump off.

[Allison Hare]

Well, I'm wondering, even for. For your content, like, going through an evolution of that, you said you're not really doing videos now because time allows. So, like, even from a content thing, obviously, you guys are entertainers, right? This is your business. This is your podcast. This isn't, you know, she's laughing. This isn't like, you know, because we feel like it anymore. You know, you. You are potentially compulsive, obviously, about needing to publish a certain amount of episodes a week. How do you create your content and know what's going to be funny and going to be perfect for.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, we don't. We don't. There's no grand plan behind this, I promise you. I'm not playing 4D chips.

[Chrissy]

We have, and we've even tried in the past to come up with, like, a spreadsheet of, like, topics that we want to touch on, but, I mean, we don't. We don't. We don't really do that anymore.

[Brian Green]

We don't really do that.

[Chrissy]

But I think that we do kind of have topics that maybe we want to talk about to begin with. But then we always go down another.

[Brian Green]

Another. Yeah, I always start the show. I said this kind of from, like, from, like, season one. Just come in and I'll shoot at you. And you can. You can respond.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And I always have, like, I have a list of a thousand things that I have. I have a list that's going. I walk down the street, I see something funny, I write it down.

[Chrissy]

Or I'll send something to you.

[Brian Green]

Chrissy will send something.

[Chrissy]

Stuff. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And I put it on that list. And then right before the show open, I'll look at that list and I'll say, okay. Or something happened yesterday, and I just know I want to talk about that, and then I go for it. But it's strategically like, I. I'm not chasing after a particular laugh, if that makes sense. I don't have a strategy to move one way or the other to chase the listeners. The listeners have been good to us. They've stuck around regardless of what we've talked about, actually, they have. And. And that's good. And. And, you know, I think that they are coming along on the ride with us for us, not always for what we talk about. And I'm sure if you asked any one of our listeners, there's some people who've listened to every. Every one of the thousand episodes. There's more Than one.

[Allison Hare]

Who are these people? Have you ever met them?

[Chrissy]

They've got a lot of time on their hands.

[Brian Green]

We've never met them face to face, but we've talked with them like they, we connect with them on, on the phone or we talk to them on chat or via email or whatever it is. You know, I, I listen, I, I appreciate their dedication to something they really enjoy. I appreciate if, if I die tomorrow, I'll have done something that. I was just saying this. If I die tomorrow, I'll have done something. I'll have done something. I don't necessarily know what it is, but I'll have done something. Put together a thousand hours of mediocre slop. Right. But it's, it's not A.I. i, I, I didn't cut corners. I did all thousand hours I've been on behind the microphone. I got my reps in and, you know, some people really appreciate that, but I have not strategically pointed the show in a direction to chase after the audience. The audience has come along with us regardless of what we've done, and for that I'll be forever grateful.

[Chrissy]

Oh, definitely.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I mean, they've paid our bills largely. Well, sometimes, you know. Yeah, depending. Depending on other podcasts out there. Depending on the podcast.

[Chrissy]

Well, I mean, that's another thing. It's been a wild ride over the past few years. I'm sure, you know, too, with just the business of podcasting and how people

[Brian Green]

get paid, how people get paid, how they sell into the show, what they're selling into the show, the metrics they use to sell into the show. It's all very wild. I mean, you know, the, the, the digital media space has ever evolved, and so you really have to. That's why I get afraid of chasing, not afraid, but I don't want to chase after a particular topic. Right. I don't want to go after Charlie Kirk's death or, you know, I don't know, you know, whatever it is, space, lasers or, you know, whatever the next. Yeah, pick anything. The next trendy thing. I don't want to follow it because the digital media space is ever changing, and if you're off topic for even a moment, the audience goes away. However, if you just stay bland and mediocre, then you can get a good base of people just to listen to you, no matter what you say. Yeah.

[Chrissy]

Because it's just so different. We're always talking about different things, so you never know what we're going to come out with.

[Brian Green]

It's mostly my.

[Chrissy]

Exactly what we're.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. That's right.

[Chrissy]

What are they talking about today?

[Brian Green]

It's mostly my misspent youth that we talk about.

[Chrissy]

We did that for a while. Now it's moving into family life.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Chrissy]

It's your pool.

[Allison Hare]

So what I'm hearing is you don't plan anything. There's no strategy. You just wing it.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

In summary. Yes, Allison, I mean, listen.

[Chrissy]

Find somebody you can just wing it with and get on a microphone.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's it. Listen. There's been some thought put into it. I just don't want to make it sound like a lot, because that would be a lie. It's largely been just, hey, let's talk.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I mean, I used to plan out, like, you know, I'm going to do this bit on Friday and this bit on Wednesday, but, you know, who wants to work that hard? Who wants to work. Who wants to work for a living? Who's. Who do you have now that. Let's turn the tables on you? Who do you have coming up on. In the next hours of your. Your day here?

[Allison Hare]

I've got a guest who I heard about. She wrote a book, and this is a woman that's, like a badass president of a company.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Allison Hare]

And, like, up and just hiked the entire Appalachian Trail. Kind of, like. Kind of like wild.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Well, I think. Yeah, that's fascinating. We've talked about that. We have.

[Allison Hare]

I love that stuff. Her name is Jen Cooper. She's here in Atlanta. I've never met her. I don't really know her story. I heard about it and heard this was a really, really great book that's not even publicly available. So I thought, let's have her on.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Cool.

[Allison Hare]

And have some interesting things.

[Brian Green]

Allison's Underground Book Club. I like it. I like it.

[Chrissy]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

All right, well, listen, why don't we let you get on with your hour and let. And Chrissy and I are going to wrap up this episode because we have 30 more to do. Yes.

[Allison Hare]

Well, thank you guys so much.

[Brian Green]

Hey, absolutely.

[Chrissy]

Congratulations. A big accomplishment.

[Brian Green]

Seven years.

[Chrissy]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

Thank you. I want to thank you for always being a wonderful supporter of the commercial break. You're probably the first person that ever heard it.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

You're probably the first person to ever say you liked it, even maybe before My wife. Took my wife about 600 episodes before she found one that she liked. And you've been a great support to us. I don't think that we would be here in this current format had it not been for your encouragement and your help and your guidance along the way and Your partnership throughout the gold years of the Coronavirus and Clubhouse. And, well, I will say this to your audience and to mine. Check out Culture Changers. First of all. Second of all, I think you'll like it. It's not the commercial break, and for that reason, you should check it out. And second of all, I will say that I feel a great sense of pride on your behalf that no matter what, you have continued to evolve and your voice has continued to evolve in this space. And I think it's. I think it's a true testament to your. I don't know, to your blind ambitions to be a podcast star and to be creating all the time. And you're like the true. You're like the. The true embodiment of what it is to be a creator. You just keep on doing it.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

No matter what.

[Allison Hare]

I'm blushing. Thank you guys so much. You're such an inspiration for me. And. And also, just personally, you know, I love you both.

[Chrissy]

Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

[Allison Hare]

Grateful to have you. You here. And even just, you know, kind of the.

[Chrissy]

The.

[Allison Hare]

The inner workings of a hit show are always so fun to learn. And I can't wait for Frankie B. And obviously anyone listening to Culture Changers. Go make sure you listen to the commercial break. It's always such a good palette cleanser of just ridiculous fun. And it's smart and funny as well.

[Brian Green]

Oh, thank you very much.

[Allison Hare]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

The smartest, dumbest, funniest. I forgot what. It was a really good review, actually. It's my favorite review ever. The dumbest, smartest, funniest, stupidest show about friendship I've ever heard, so. All right, we love you, and we'll tune in. You know, as soon as I put all my kids to bed, I'm gonna tune back in.

[Allison Hare]

All right.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Chrissy]

Have a great rest of your day. Bye.

[Brian Green]

Bye. Talk soon.

[Allison Hare]

Bye.

[Brian Green]

Bye. Oh, well, you know, listen, we. We love Allison, and I'm happy and proud of her.

[Chrissy]

Me too.

[Brian Green]

I'm happy to be a part of it. So let's do this. Let's take a very quick break. We'll come back for a very quick wrap up and. Yeah. What else is there to say? That's it.

[Rachel]

Okay. You're probably wondering why I, Rachel, have taken over the voice duties at tc. It's pretty simple. Astrid asked me to shut Brian up, even for a minute. Well, lovely Astrid, your wish is my command. Do you want to help Astrid, too? You know, you do. Leave a message for her or me or Chrissy at 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. You can be on the show, too. Just call and say something, anything. Or text us, and we'll text you right back. Promise. Then head over to tcbpodcast.com and get your free sticker. It's your constitutional right to a sticker, and we must abide. You get the point? Follow us on Instagram at the commercial break and watch all the episodes on [e-mail] thecommercial break. Best to you and Astrid, Especially Astrid.

[Brian Green]

Well, Allison has always been a supporter. She's always been on our side. She's always been team Commercial Break, Team tcb. And for that, listen, you don't. You don't get many of those in life, and so when you find one, you suck up to them. So that's exactly what we. That's exactly what we just did.

[Chrissy]

She's a doll.

[Brian Green]

She is a doll face. Super smart. Her show. Her show is super smart. Go check it out. She's got. She's actually got some very interesting interview. You can go root around. She's got some very interesting interviews. She's friends with Jesse Eisen. No, not Jesse Eisenberg. That's an actor. Jesse Itzler, who is married to Sarah Blakeley, who started Spanx.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And Jesse himself is like, he's very successful. Very successful. Yeah. The two of them are a power couple, and they're friends. And Allison is interviewed, I think a couple times. She interviewed. Interviewed Seth Godin, of course. Very famous author and marketer and marketer. Probably changed the way we all think about marketing. I've read his. All his books. What is that? Purple Cow or something? Purple Cow is a great book. I remember when I first Tribes. Yeah, Tribes is another one. Yeah. And then lots of other people. She's had a lot of interesting people on her show. And then, you know, sometimes her show is interesting and she doesn't have anybody that you would know on, and they just always have thought provoking.

[Chrissy]

And then she had us on.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I'm sure this is the highlight of her day. She's gonna have a CEO, former CEO that hiked the Appalachian Trail right before she had the commercial break on, where she asked, you know, tell me about your strategy.

[Chrissy]

And I was like, we don't have one.

[Brian Green]

Huh? Strategy. I'm playing 4D chess. I don't want to give away my strategy. Strategy. My strategy is press record. Make sure Chrissy's here. Lights are on. There we go. But we know that's why you love it.

[Allison Hare]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

That's why we love you, too.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And listen for joining. I know Allison's not the only one that's been listening since the beginning, so thanks to everybody. We really appreciate it. We love you. We love you. We love you. If you're watching the stream, we'll be back tomorrow. Frankie B. Mountain Monsters. You won't want to miss that. If you're listening. If you're listening on the RSS feed, you'll get those next week. Chrissy and I will return the first full week in June for more live episode. I mean after tomorrow for more live episodes. So tune in tomorrow Friday on the stream. YouTube.com the commercial break I know it gets a little confusing when I'm talking about this stuff because you're listening on if you're listening on the RSS feed. But you'll figure it out. YouTube.com the commercial break make sure you hit the notification so that you get notified when we go live. Tcbpodcast.com all the audio, all the video, your free sticker at the contact us button and at the commercial break on Instagram. Follow us there and you can DM us if you want to get a hold of us. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for today, I think. So tell you that I love you.

[Chrissy]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you. Invest you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I will say we do say and we must say goodbye by. 50.