B (2:21)

Right now, but all about the Swing or something. I don't know. I know what you're talking about.

A (2:25)

Yeah, it's really good.

B (2:26)

I.

A (2:27)

It catches you kind of back up with what the current situations are.

B (2:30)

I actually do know because I pay attention to it enough. I say pejorative, but I'm not into it. Like, I used to watch every swing of almost every tournament at some point during the week, right in between my binge drinking and cocaine habit. I would find a way to watch golf and I. You and I went through a period where we watched a lot of golf together.

A (2:46)

We did, we did.

B (2:47)

We'd watch all the majors and then if it was a Saturday, the Masters. The Masters and at a Saturday afternoon, I'd be, you know, laying on the couch nursing a hangover.

A (2:55)

And I would be too, on the other couch.

B (2:57)

On the other couch watching some, you know, the. I don't. Douchebag 3000 or whatever. You know, the douchebag final or whatever we were watching. But anyway, I have found it's a little bit more digestible to watch. And I've always been into college football. I've always thought that was. I always thought that those guys play so hard for the love of the game. Not all of them are going to be professional football players. They're playing for pride. They're playing just their little hearts out. Right. And so I.

A (3:23)

Now for money.

B (3:24)

Now for money. And I think that's an interesting point that we should talk about. But college football I found this year I'm keeping up with a little bit more because I find it to be exciting that there's now a 12 team playoff instead of the. When I was a kid, you just went to a bowl game and then they would have rankings and you would be number one because you were ranked number one. And sometimes the one and two would play and usually. What was that? The Sugar bowl or the Cotton bowl or something? The Pasadena Bowl, The Rose Bowl, I'm not sure which one. But there was a bunch of bowls that were prestigious and then they would send the top ranked schools to those polls. Then they formalized it with a playoff and it was usually. And that it's been a four team playoff for a while. The first and second play and the third and fourth play and then whatever, you know, there you go. But now there's a 12 team playoff. It's a bracket, so it's a little bit more exciting. And that on top of the conference championships now don't ask me how all this works. I don't even know what a nickelback formation is. I don't even know what a running back does. I really don't. I'm so unknowledgeable about the actual mechanics of the sport, but I like watching a good touchdown just as much as the next person.

A (4:25)

Exactly. It's just fun to get in the spirit.

B (4:27)

It's fun to get in the spirit and watch all the college kids root and raw for their team. It's it's exciting. The atmosphere is exciting. And you know, the coverage is usually good. They usually have like people that will talk knowledgeably about what's going on. Usually something about this is the most underrated defense in all the college football. They're really, they do yell around, they're in the pocket and they're standing there. Look at that guy blocking it.

A (4:49)

You're not prepared for what happens next.

B (4:51)

You're not prepared for what happens now. This weekend, Ohio State versus the Tennessee Volunteers, what will happen? It's life or death out there for those guys. You know, something about the offensive line and the defensive line and that's where it's one and lost. And I don't know, it's, you know, it's all. And then the, the post game conferences are always something like this. Yep. Well, the fact of the matter is if we would have scored more points and our defense would have held better, we would have won this game.

A (5:24)

Uhhuh.

B (5:24)

And then it's like, isn't that like not every game? Isn't that like there's no variation of a postgaze conference that makes any sense Unless some crazy drama happened, it's all the same. But anyway, I digress. I don't get that into it, but on a Saturday I will put it on in the background and watch the big games if I can. So I'm, I'm excited this year because it seems like there is now some parody in college football. And here's what I mean. I think in the past really great players go to the hot schools and that tends to be somewhere in the Southeastern Conference. Lsu, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, you name it. I mean they're not Tennessee lately. But this year they're doing well.

A (6:08)

They are.

B (6:09)

Clemson is not in the sec, but it's a Southern school. But anyway, so these.

A (6:14)

Ohio is always big, too high, it was good.

B (6:16)

Texas has always been their smu, unbelievably smu, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Notre Dame. Listen, any school can be good in any given year, right? But the sec, they always talk about as like, you know, the big bad boys of the college football. And everyone wants to go to a southeastern school because the girls are good looking and the weather is warm and you know, the campuses are crazy and whatever. So. But this year it seems like more than ever there's a lot of parody in college football. There's upset after upset, there's victory after victory. There's you know, one team, there's usually you would have to be like 10 and oh, 11 and oh to get anywhere close to the college playoffs. Now there's teams with two losses, three losses, that have been upset, that are have a chance at going to the bracketed tournament, let alone to get into the final or the semifinal. That is exciting to me.

A (7:11)

That is exciting.

B (7:12)

And I think what changed the game here is the fact that you can get paid to go anywhere. You could literally go to Virginia Fart University in Southwest Virginia with nobody playing there and plays no other schools, right, and be the quarterback, the star quarterback in that particular, you know, division and get paid $200,000 for doing a Doritos commercial. If you're a personality and they want you to do that, yeah, you can get a sponsorship, whatever. It changed the game. Now it matters less where you go because you, if you're really, really good, you're going to get paid, right? And I think we can all say it out loud now. They were getting paid anyway. They were getting paid anyway.

A (7:58)

Definitely.

B (7:59)

It doesn't fucking matter anymore. The ncaa, after years of doing the wrong thing, did the right thing and said if we're going to make $6 billion a year on this fucking college football and television rights and stadium rights and everything else that comes along with it, we should give some of that money to the people who make it so popular, which is the guys that are fucking cracking their heads every Saturday afternoon. And I think that was the right move and the right call. And now I do believe there's some parity along with that. I guess there's a portal where people can. It used to be that if you transferred, you had to sit for a year or something like that. Some kind of complication where if you transferred, you may have been satisfied for some period of time, like a cool off period. And now you can just transfer schools and you're playing the next week and whatever. I don't know how that portal works, but there's a portal and you could transfer through the magic of the Internet inside of it. And woo, There we go.

A (8:52)

Wapam.

B (8:52)

Bam. You're now getting paid $200,000 from Bob Korv's Corvettes in Winnekegan, Illinois. Brand new Mercedes. Wha. Bam. No problem. RBM of Milwaukee, Wisconsin grants you a brand new Mercedes. Yeah. These players are getting paid as they should be. Yeah.

A (9:13)

The quarterback for Georgia is driving around in a Lamborghini Bo.

B (9:19)

He's not even that good. He almost ruined the season for us. Get paid those big bucks and you start slipping, buddy. Yeah, well, listen, that's a flashy example of what can happen. But when you're the number one school going into the year, when you're the number one school and you're the quarterback of the number one school, you just won a national championship, of course you're going to get paid, right? But you know, you got to keep working. But if this was 10 years ago, he would have been driving around in a two year old Mercedes Benz that was pretty good looking, right? But you know, his grandma got it right.

A (9:56)

Exactly.

B (9:57)

Which means somebody gave it to his grandma. His grandma gave it to him. Yeah. So as to skirt the rules. I was watching this documentary about Southern Methodist University, which was a powerhouse football, college football team back in the 80s, but it was payola everywhere. They were lit like, not Eric, I can't remember the, the name of the, the guy. But they like, he showed up, he. Someone gave him a Corvette. One of the schools gave him a Corvette during like the courting period, you know, when they were trying to get him onto the team, the income signing day. The team that gave him the Corvette, he decides to go with the other team. So now he's got a Corvette from one team and he goes with the other team and they give him a bunch of money too. It was all happening anyway, but now it's just changed. Like the. Now it's an even playing field. Everyone gets to put it out there in the open and at least there's some, you know, transparency as to what's going on. And I see these college kids in these ads all the time and I'm like, good for you, dude. Get that fucking money. Get paid. Now it sucks if you're like the fourth string, you know, I don't know, Nickelback, I don't even know what the you call them, but it's a fourth, fourth string punter, you know, you're not getting a deal. Maybe you're getting free Quiznos or something.

A (11:06)

Right?

B (11:06)

There's a Quiznos card, kid make a post on Instagram about it. But anyway, the reason why we're even talking about this is because we have a TV here and we watch stuff in the background when we're not recording. And we were watching the Pat McAfee show, which is on ESPN, and he's a highly, highly popular and controversial figure who has been doing this live ESPN show for a while now. It's a podcast, quote unquote radio show, whatever the fuck that even means anymore. I don't know. I don't even know what podcasting means anymore. But. And that's part of the reason now we're going to be on Spotify video is because I don't know what it means, but I don't want to be lost. I don't want to get. God forbid I be behind. I'm going to get on clubhouse early this time, kids. I'm gonna ride the wave to fortunate faith.

A (11:55)

Yes.

B (11:55)

Anyway, this Pat McAfee is now on this. You know the.

A (11:58)

I've heard the name.

B (11:59)

College game day. Yeah. So now he's a personality. He's like the, you know, ruffian. He's the crazy guy who does anything, says anything. Rogue. He's gone rogue. Look at right now, we're watching this and Aaron Rodgers is on now. Aaron Rodgers. I don't know what happened to that guy. I mean, Aaron Rodgers. Anyway, I'm not going to talk about Eric because I just don't give a. But Pat McAfee is so popular and he's been. He's been such a star for ESPN that they lit. And so we were watching him talk about, like, the stadium series in the NHL where they put an NHL ring in the middle of a. Of a stadium and they play a game this year. It's going to be in Ohio. It's like in February or March.

A (12:41)

Oh, that's fun.

B (12:42)

But they're talking about college football and the rankings and who's going to be where and all this other stuff for this. When this comes out, it'll be a little bit more clear who's in the playoffs. But Pat McAfee, he is so wild, he's such a wild child that they have to put a disclaimer on the ESPN ticker that constantly says you are watching a show where. Live, where anything can happen. Like, please excuse us in advance for anything Pat McAfee may say. This is ESPN, owned by Disney. ESPN, owned by Disney, is putting a disclaimer saying that Pat McAfee could say anything at any time. Man, how things have changed. Because for sure, it used to be. It used to be that if you were anywhere on broadcast television, there was just a certain set of parameters that you had to live with inside or you were fired. You would never be seen again on network television or cable network television. And Pat McAfee is. We just watched the show and we heard two shits in like 15 minutes. This is on it like one o' clock in the afternoon.

A (13:45)

Yeah, yeah.

B (13:46)

It's crazy. I think. I think it's great. First of all, I love it. I think. Good, good. They should. They should be able to say what they want to as long as you know and Understand there's some transparency into what's being said right now. I don't know Pat McAfee well enough to like him or dislike him. I'm just sharing with you that I've been hearing a lot about him. I've watched the couple hours of his show. He really is a loose cannon and he will say anything. And ESPN does nothing about it. They just put the ticker on the bottom. Please excuse us in advance for all the shitty things Pat McAfee's about to say. Aaron Rodgers, you should have a disclaimer on. On his. Tattooed on his forehead. Honestly, he's a walking. He's a walking shotgun.

A (14:27)

And it is very interesting. I need to check.

B (14:30)

So fascinating. It really is. And Pat McAfee was like a punter for NFL and then he became like a commentator and now he's just got his own superstar. Yeah. And why is he wearing two rings? Well.

A (14:43)

And he's.

B (14:44)

Is he mar.

A (14:45)

Old watch?

B (14:45)

Yes. Is he married to two women? Might be. Man and a woman. Is he a polygamist?

A (14:50)

There's gonna be a reality show about this.

B (14:52)

Let's start a rumor that Pat McAfee is a polygamist but not married to two women. Married to a man and a woman. It's a throuple.

A (14:59)

That's right.

B (15:00)

Yes.

A (15:00)

Yeah. He's got two rings on the left hand only. No rings on the right.

B (15:04)

I know that's weird. Isn't that. And that is a very gold watch. It is 1986. Yeah. Back to the Future, the actual movie called and Monster Watch back. That is not. I don't know. I guess some people are into that really orange gold look. But that's not. That's not for me. But I'll piggybacking on that. You know, here. Here's what's interesting about that college football playoff. And I know that, you know, we have mostly a female audience. They probably all tuned out at this point. Actually. I think a lot of. I think a lot of women like college football too, because, you know, they went to college and they. And they love it.

A (15:40)

And at least that's how I got into it.

B (15:42)

Most of the ladies I know watch college football.

A (15:44)

I really was not into it at all before I went to college and then participated in all of the games and go to the games, and it was a big deal and part of the culture.

B (15:51)

I know a lot of women that are in the NFL football. NFL football is just not my thing. But, you know, I cannot. I don't know. I don't know. Something about watching overpaid get guy. I mean, I just don't think they play as hard. And I know that that's probably not true. But it seems like when you're in college, you're young, you're fit, and you blood and sweat and tears, you leave it on the field. It seems like you're in pro football, you're careful not to get, you know, sometimes you're just like careful not to get hurt so you can play next year. I don't know. I don't know what it is. It's just like something about it is not as exciting as college football to me.

A (16:23)

But a lot of people feel that way.

B (16:24)

A lot of people feel that way. Okay, so here's what's exciting about the 12 team playoff. So Georgia, the UGA Bulldogs are in this interesting situation. Whereas a two loss team, it was likely at least before this previous weekend and now we're recording a little bit ahead of time. So remember this, at least before this previous weekend, it was likely they were not going to go to the SEC championship unless some upsets happened. Like Old Miss losing to Florida, which happened. But if they had not, but they were still ranked high enough to be in the playoffs. So if they had not been in the SEC championship game, great. We have a bye week, we have an extra week to recover and then we still go to the playoffs. But now since there's been an upset, they have to go to the championship game. It looks like we'll see what happens this weekend. But they have to go to the championship and so now they have to play. I think they said they were going to be in like 14 games. If they go all the way to the national title. 14 games playing.

A (17:25)

Yeah, that's a lot.

B (17:26)

I mean, can you imagine 14 games in a season? I can't imagine what kind of toll that must take on your body.

A (17:33)

Yeah. And going to school.

B (17:37)

Well, now listen, there are a lot of athletes who are very smart and like, you hear about them all the time. They always find that one smart athlete, that one guy on the team who's overachieving and they talk about him constantly.

A (17:47)

Like a bioscience major, a double major.

B (17:50)

In biology and science, triple master's degrees, a PhD. He's like 29 years old, he's like, you know, seventh year senior out of, you know, downtown Marietta, whatever it is, and you know, he's got a 17.0 GPA and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They always find that one guy to point out that you can be a sportsman, you can Be as an athlete and also have an education. But let's be real honest about it. A lot of those guys are there to play football, and that's what, that's what they're there for. But you know, I would think, I would think that if you're getting a free ride, you get the education to go along with it. They. You at least pretty reassured that everyone that plays on the football team, if they make it four or five, six years, however long they're in, they're in college, that they actually get that degree because that's what really matters. There's no. Yeah, there's no guarantee you're going to play NFL football. And if there's hundreds of college campuses that have high level football.

A (18:45)

Yeah. I mean, most people don't.

B (18:47)

Yeah. There's only. How many NFL teams? 28. Something like that.

A (18:51)

I mean, something like that.

B (18:52)

How many NFL teams are. That's okay, I'm not really interested. Let's see here. Somebody is yelling at the speaker right now going, 32, you shithead. How many NFL teams are there? Okay, you don't want to answer me?

A (19:09)

How many thing messes up every time you try to.

B (19:13)

I know, 32. Okay, I was close. Well, I was, I was right. When I yelled at myself, it was 28. Before the expansion. I don't know what expansion, but the expansion. You know where the Jaguar, Jacksonville Jaguars got in? I remember. I'm old enough to remember that. But anyway, so you know, who knows what's actually happening now as this is being released. By the way, it sounds like there's a professional football going on. Yeah. Geez. Those kids wanted to play football the other day in the hallway. And so I was teaching them, you know, how to hike, like simple football. You know, they were so excited because we got this little mini football, wanted to play and they really went at each other. They were like throwing each other against the wall, tackling, crying, screaming. And then I was like, okay, all right, let's do baseball. And so we have this like little softball. And I'm like teaching them how to swing the bat. And within five minutes, like half the Christmas tree ornaments were on the floor, broken, looking at me. And I'm like, okay, maybe not baseball. What about Monopoly? It's a great sport for everybody. I hear chess is making a comeback and it is. Chess is quite popular right now, by the way, while we're speaking about sports.

A (20:23)

Did it go away?

B (20:25)

Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, okay. There's always been people who play chess.

A (20:30)

Yeah. They have those big tournaments and of.

B (20:32)

Course, and you know, ye. Guy Blavowski or who, whatever Russian name is next, you know, playing the supercomputer. However it goes down, chess has never gone away. But chess is seeing a resurgence in popularity and they are now starting a new type of chess where you can move the back pieces in certain ways. So you now have like 192 different combinations.

A (20:55)

Wow.

B (20:56)

As to how you get started. Yeah. So there, there's about to be a big shakeup in the chess world and there's startup companies that are putting big money into like, you know, chef's website. Big chess. I didn't say big chest. I said big chess. Settle down out there. Brad's talking about tits again.

A (21:17)

Big chest. Like big chest.

B (21:19)

Yeah, like big oil. That's right. Big baby oil. Gotta look out for big baby oil. We're on to you. Big baby oil. Free Diddy. It's big baby oil. That's his behind. This B. Diddy's basement was just a proving grounds for big baby oil, for big lube. It was like a test kitchen. So, yeah, chess is seeing a resurgence. They're dumping a lot of money into technology companies that do stuff with chess. I don't know. During the pandemic I started playing online. Yeah. And like, you know, there's like, you can be a thou, like a grand master or whatever. There's different levels, Right. Within five minutes I was like, you know, there's like a thousand levels. Within five minutes I was like, on the 27th level. Right. But then within another 10 minutes I went back down eight levels. I won one game. And then I was like, woo. I'm so intelligent, right? Yeah. And then I was playing three year olds in Switzerland who were wiping the floor with me. I was like, fuck this.

A (22:28)

Then he stopped.

B (22:29)

Yeah. Davios is five. Play him. Okay. I'm level 27. Yeah. I'm level 3,000, asshole. I'm starting with the Pakinski move. Yeah. I'm starting with the Guru BG move. Night four to king seven, whatever that means. Meanwhile, I'm on the. I have another tab open and I'm reading like, how to Play Chess for Beginners. Swear to God.

A (23:02)

Oh, I can see it.

B (23:05)

Brian always has the best of intentions. It ends up ending with Brian angry at somebody.

A (23:10)

A five year old.

B (23:11)

Five year old in Sweet Davios. I'll teach you. I'll be back randomly. You'll never know when I'm coming. You can't prepare for what comes next. Little Davios. You better look out that Swiss bedroom of yours. I'm coming for you. All right, we're extra chatty today.

A (23:41)

Let's take a hyped up.

B (23:44)

Yeah, let's take a hyped up because we actually get a break for a minute after this. All right, let's take a break and we'll be back.

C (23:53)

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A (24:02)

Damn.

C (24:03)

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B (24:50)

I love it. We're watching Matt McAfee and as, as previously mentioned and Aaron Rodgers is on. And on the title tag, it says New York Jets QB Aaron Rodgers, super bowl champ, four time NFL mvp, Ayahuasca enthusiast. Some Disney employee typed that out. Ayahuasca enthusiast. Now I will say this. I have heard Aaron Rodgers talk about his ayahuasca experience. You know, I also heard what's his name, Jake Paul, talk about his ayahuasca experience and how that led him to calling Mike Tyson to fight. He had a vision. I don't know what version of ayahuasca he was doing, but I did not have a vision of doing anything except surviving this journey on ayahuasca. I mean, I did not. I was not. I didn't see some motivational movie playing in front of me. I mean, I saw a lot of things. And the bottom line is what almost everybody walks away with is that we're all in or everything is interconnected. I believe that energetically and physically in this form and that your body is simply a vessel, a vehicle where that energy takes, you know, can move in this particular realm. Realm. I mean, it's really hard to explain. You got to do it. But. And if you do do it, Then you will understand. Probably. But beware, this is not for the meek. Or be prepared. That's all I gotta say. Have. Have a guide. Don't. Don't do this recreationally, like on a Tuesday night, you know? You know, you take some ayahuasca on a Tuesday night, you might wake up the following Tuesday night wondering why you're standing on top of a building without your shirt on. That's all I gotta say. But I have heard Aaron Rodgers. Whenever I hear somebody has done ayahuasca ceremonially, not in a party atmosphere like dmt, like smoking DMT or dropping dmt, which is the same drug or the same chemical that is in ayahuasca that activates this hallucinogenic experience. I feel a kinship with them because I know what that's like. And it's not. It's just hard to explain. You go off into a different place and you come back heard from everybody.

A (27:13)

And everybody's got a different experience.

B (27:15)

Yeah. And you will be changed in some way, shape or form. And I guess that could be said of any experience that you have in life. You could go to the Whole Foods tomorrow and, you know, your life could be changed because you got, I don't know, butterfly effect, but Iowa.

A (27:28)

Because somebody masturbated on you. Remember that story?

B (27:32)

Oh, yeah. There was some dude whacking off at. With. At. On women at the Whole Foods.

A (27:36)

That. That's life changing.

B (27:39)

Yeah, yeah, I did that. He did not have that vision with ayahuasca, that's for sure. There's no wagging off in Whole Foods. But anyway, you get what I'm saying. So I feel a certain kinship with them because I say, okay, you've been there, you've visited that realm. You've. You've gone outside of your body in that energetically, in that way. What did you learn? But then I hear some of the things he says, and I'm like, I don't know if we had the same. I don't know if it's the same type of ceremony. I don't know. I don't know. Also, ayahuasca has become a rich people's experience. Right. Because you can pay thousands of dollars.

A (28:12)

Yes.

B (28:13)

Go down these retreats, Costa Rica, Brazil, wherever, down in South America. And ayahuasca, the vine that it grows on in the. The. The different plants that they use to brew.

A (28:24)

Were you at a retreat? Did you go to the South America? Okay.

B (28:29)

No, I was here. A shaman came here and I was invited to go. Once I ended up. They asked Us. They asked us to fast. That was the time that I told you where I went into a room at our friend's house. I will share that friend at a different time. Okay. Yeah. The doctor.

A (28:46)

Yes.

B (28:48)

It's not a doctor. Yes, the guy I thought was the doctor and I think this is where it all started. Yes.

A (28:59)

Until I'm talking to him and he says, you know, I'm not a doctor.

B (29:02)

And I said, what? I thought you were a doctor. Remember that time you invited me to take ayahuasca? I thought you were a doctor. I thought we were. I thought a doctor was asking me. I thought it was being prescribed to me. I didn't know. Anyway. Oh my God. That's funny. I don't want to give too much away, but that's. That is funny.

A (29:20)

It'll always be funny.

B (29:21)

It'll always be funny. And he'll always be doctor to me. Yes.

A (29:24)

So the doc.

B (29:25)

Yeah, the doc. And sometimes I look at him and I'm not sure if he understands. Like sometimes the doc has this look on his face and I'm. And I'm like, is that your normal look or. Since I'm sure the doc does not listen to this show. Or maybe he does. Who knows? I know.

A (29:41)

We don't know.

B (29:43)

Anyway, so I got invited to his house by a friend of mine. And this was years ago, and I barely could say the word ayahuasca, let alone understand anything of what it was. But there was a room of about 20 of us and there was a man there who was very well cherished and respected in the community that the circles of friends.

A (30:05)

He was wearing a white turban. Everybody thought he was a shaman.

B (30:10)

He was wearing a tie dye shirt. He always had a walking stick. And he was likely wearing some kind of skirt. He had a big beard like Santa Claus. And he was like Papa Bear. He was like the Jerry Garcia, like the Pied Piper of this group. Everyone loved this guy. Everyone. And he really was like a Jerry Garcia like character. He was just wise in ways that you didn't understand. He would say things to you. It was like the Matrix. I don't even think he knew what he was saying to you. I think he just had a bunch of sayings that he would say. But it always made sense in the moment because you were likely too fucked up to realize he was just repeating things. But whatever, I took it. Listen, God comes in many different forms. She is a funny and you know, I'll take it, right? And. And she just happened to be in a skirt with A big beard. I. Okay, all right, I got it. And. And the walking stick. I never forget that.

A (31:04)

Yeah, you gotta have the walking stick.

B (31:05)

Yeah. But he actually did have trouble walking.

A (31:06)

At that point, so.

B (31:11)

He wasn't afraid of a jelly donut. You know what I'm saying? There's the skinny Buddha. There's a fat Buddha. You know, I'll take it for what it is. Oh, Brian.

A (31:29)

I'm picturing all of us.

B (31:31)

Okay, okay. So we go in. So I go into this. I get invited. My friend is hyping me up about this. Yeah, yeah. This is a once in a lifetime experience. You're never.

A (31:39)

Until next week.

B (31:41)

Yeah. Until 2024, when you could buy it at Q. I mean, honestly, till 2024, when Aaron Rodgers sets up an ayahuasca day camp for rich kids. I mean, come on. It's like, seriously. Yes, it was a. So I walked in there not knowing anything except for there was this tea, this substance, this, you know, thing that they were. That they could brew up. And. And at the time. So we went and there was a couple of people there that spoke to us. Like a group of 20. Imagine we're just sitting around in this living room, a bunch of people, and some people get up to speak. And this guy got up to speak. This kind of, you know, Pied Piper of the group got up to speak. And he had been Pied Piper. He had been to South America, and he had met this shaman through the grapevine. He had, you know, been invited down to this actual ceremony. For $5,000 apiece. Makes it sound so special. It was probably so transactional. Do you take American Express? But I'm wearing a skirt now. I got a discount kind of already. Weird. Stick. Yeah, I've got a stick. Do you think I have an American Express, dude? I mean, come on. I bought this tie, dye shirt, and an actual Grateful Dead show. And Jerry was still here. So we go into this room and, you know, here's the pitch. Imagine this. He says, listen, those of you who have never done this before, and there was like 19 out of the 20 of us, right? Yeah. We have rented or we have been granted access to a room. We've rented a room at the Holiday Inn. There's going to be light hors d', oeuvres, champagne, and plastic cups. And then you're going to die a million deaths and throw up on yourself. It's going to be so much fun. Can't wait to see it. So we're taking small donations to buy me a new walking stick. For the event. Oh, my God, I am so bastardizing this whole thing.

A (34:17)

It was special at the time.

B (34:19)

It was special at the moment, and it's still special in my head. Yes. But I see it a little bit for what it is. I mean, you know, they were trying to make a little scratch, but they were also inviting you to experience something that they had experienced. Okay, all right. You know, I get it. So this is what was said, is they gave us this list of instructions, basically, which was, you know, some people react to this differently. It's a tea. It's going to be brewed as a tea. It's not particularly pleasant tasting. It's not unusual to vomit. Maybe multiple times after you take it, the body can react like that. But if you do vomit, know that that probably means you're on your way to a spectacular trip, Right? Yeah. And, you know, just like some of the physical things that you might experience. And then he got up and he talked about some of the other things you might experience, and he was like, I'm gonna tell you right now, it's highly unlikely that if you. And he said, by the way, there are people sometimes that do not react to the tea at all. They may.

A (35:16)

Yeah, I've heard that, too.

B (35:17)

That just. Your body just does not alkalize it like other bodies do. And you may experience little or nothing. And he's like, and if that's you, then she's just not talking to you right now. Like the medicine. She's just not talking to you right now. Maybe try it again later. Maybe don't. Whatever, you know, you. You'll find out. He's like, but it is likely that you will experience something, because these people have been bre this for hundreds of years in their family. Right. It's like a. It's like a lineage. You know, I. And then I like the Tabasco people. They've been growing it for hundreds of years in old bourbon bottles. So he says, you. When you go in. And we knew what he meant. When you go in, you.

A (35:58)

N word.

B (35:58)

Yeah, It. When you go in. And that's no joke. When you go in, you're likely to go through the wormhole, and what you see on the other side is probably going to be representative of death, because this is a death. You're dying. Your ego's dying a death, and you're detaching from your body. And that's really hard for your brain to understand. And while we don't understand all the mechanics of it, just know that some version of death is probably Going to come to you. And maybe it will come to you a lot.

A (36:28)

And now drink this tea.

B (36:29)

Now drink this tea. Have a good time. So I've often said it was like being invited into the most loose, exclusive party in the world, but there's a good chance you're gonna die. It's like, okay, I'm excited, but also, you know, it was scary to me at the time. And the first time I got invited to do it, I was not ready. I just wasn't. And so they wanted us to fast for like five days ahead of time. Like only drink liquids because that would increase the chances that you would be affected by it and that it would be a powerful journey, you know, I mean, why you needed to be any more powerful, I don't know, because quite frankly does fine on its own, but okay. But then the second time I was invited by someone else in a very similar situation. And I was with doctors, lawyers, politicians, a person here in Atlanta that is well known, probably even outside Atlanta. Well known, like a celebrity type, a personality type. And there were. This is how weird this was. I went into this big cavernous room. The person, the shaman, did not speak a lick of English. There was a translator there. We all sat in a circle. We had a comfortable bedding with us. The lights were turned down low. There were candles. There were paramedics in the room with us not doing the ceremony. That's how intense at that time people thought this could be. And. And with good reason, because not. I don't think people die. I don't think a lot of people die doing ayahuasca. I guess it's not out of the realm of possibility, but you could hurt yourself because you are completely out of your body. Completely. And here's how. And without giving away all of the secret magic, here's how it goes. There is a lot of vomiting, there is a lot of bodily fluids, there is a lot of shaking and weirdness. And you go in and out. You go into the wormhole, you come out of the wormhole, you go back into the wormhole, you come out of the wormhole. And when you come back out, you are still weight sourced, but you are now con. You are in touch with reality. And when I came in touch with reality, at times people were making noises that, I don't know animals make, let alone human beings. It was scurry, like. Like, right, like weird. I've heard that monkey, ghost noises. And then, you know, the shaman, and then someone's playing a tambourine. Stop that. What are you Doing like, it's all annoying. And. And then the shaman, you know, when. When I think when the shaman knew you were coming back, he would come over and then he would guide you, right? You know, go into it, feel it, relax, you know, Done. And they sometimes. And. And then maybe another dose, and then maybe another drink and then maybe another thing, and then back into it you go. And away you go. And a thousand deaths and snakes and dragons and all the fire and death and all this other stuff. But what emerges out of that is something incredibly beautiful and powerful. And that is that every scintilla of matter and antimatter is connected in some way. And you do not, no matter how much you think you do, you do not live this life isolated energetically from any other thing, including the fucking table in front of you.

A (39:49)

Yeah.

B (39:49)

It is a part of the energetic field. And this is why, even though I am a pragmatic pragmatist who likes to do ayahuasca, even though I'm a pragmatic pragmatist, this is why I do believe in things like the multiverse, because I think that's my. Maybe where I went is to another multiverse, right? I also saw myself. Saw. Felt is probably the better word. Myself as a child and as a dying human being and as reborn again and going through the birth canal. I didn't necessarily see these things, like, in high detail. I don't remember, but I felt it. And the weird thing is.

A (40:29)

Did you see Aaron Rodgers?

B (40:31)

I saw Aaron Rodgers in the Portal, and he was three and eight after his grand comeback, and he was on the Pat McAfee show as Ayahuasca enthusiast. Aaron, retire. I can't. Oscar told me to. I've had Covid 12 times. I need to pay for the doctor's bills. Oh, Aaron. I know. He's probably just doing what he thinks is best. I don't think Aaron's out to hurt anybody. I just think he's whatever I think he's.

A (41:11)

We're connected to Aaron.

B (41:12)

We're connected to Aaron in some way, shape or form, though I'll tell you, I'm not connected to is the fucking old ladies driving down the street. Those ladies are in a different unit.

A (41:19)

I'm still mad about that.

B (41:20)

Oh, my God, I can't. Because now I got to think about me driving later on today. I got to go on the same route. I can take the kids back to swimming. And so it's be another obnoxious drive to and fro, I promise you. All right, let's do this. Yeah. Let's take a break and then we'll be back with more stories from Brian's life. Bye. Bye.

C (41:42)

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B (42:28)

Speaking of Dr. Dr. Dave, now I'm going to let you listen to a news story. I want you to hear this very closely. This is a very interesting doctor out of. Oh, here, let me just. I'll play it for you and then you'll know. I think it's Louisiana. You ready?

A (42:45)

I'm ready.

B (42:46)

Okay.

D (42:46)

We're about a northeast Arkansas physician who had his license suspended. The suspension of Dr. David Diffanay stemmed from a complaint sent into the state medical board in July related to alleged inappropriate sexual contact in one of his medical offices. We sent in a Freedom of Information act request to the Arkansas State Medical board to get access to Diphanes file. According to the investigators report, DFNA denied all of the claims listed in the complaint. Macy Davis joins us now. Breaking down what we learned.

E (43:16)

The board received the complaint on July 17. It included multiple video files and we do want to warn you, the video is graphic. We have censored it due to the explicit content. Anyone who who might be sensitive to this content may want to change the channel. According to board documents, this video was taken in 2019 Diffanae family practice in Blival. In it, Dr. David Diffanay can be seen walking around naked, including in the hallway between patient rooms. Another video clip sent in shows him in the receptionist area walking around three women and performing a sex act directly in front of one of the women. The clip ends with him ejaculating on her. According to the documents we received, not only did the woman work in Diphanes office as a lab Tech for another company. She was one of his patients. According to the person who sent the board the videos, this all happened during business hours.

B (44:14)

Okay, doctor, first of all, first of all, I don't know what 17 year old they have doing the news in Blytheville, Arkansas, but you need to speak up a little bit.

A (44:24)

Was he on ayahuasca?

B (44:25)

Yeah, I don't know. He's mumbling a lot of words, but I mean, it is Blytheville, Arkansas too, so. And God bless him. I mean, I know he's just getting started off in his career. He looks very young, but he does. He mumbled and I. It was. I had to watch the video twice to understand what he was saying a little bit. This doctored Tiffany, right? I think is how you. How they're saying it. Tiffany. This Dr. Tiffany owns a family practice and he is a naturist. And he was known on Instagram as Dr. Dave. Naked. Dr. Naked Dave.

A (44:53)

Okay.

B (44:53)

Dr. Naked Dave would often post videos of him in various states of undress because he's a naturist, which means a nudist. He extended that to his family practice, his medical practice, where he would practice medicine in the nude. He was walking around during the day, business hours, walking around his. His doctor's office, nude, naked. And then listen, when he did a sex act and then he ejaculated on the woman. That's what you heard. Apparently that was consensual. But she was also working there at the time. According to. She didn't make the complaint. Somebody else made the complaint. Yeah, yeah. Like, I mean, anyone else. But if you watch this video that Chrissy and I just watched, there's like an office, like a back office of a doctor's. And there's a couple pizza boxes. Yes. At the reception. And Dr. Dave walks in with a hat on and nothing else. But, you know, tan all over, Jan. All over. You know what I'm saying? He walks in, he pops the pizza box, starts eating pizza, and the three receptionists are just carrying on work as if nothing is going on. His dick is swinging around the office. That's unbelievable.

A (46:02)

Oh, my God.

B (46:03)

Now if you're at a nudist camp and you are the doctor of the nudist camp. Okay, yeah, cool, dude. But a family practice, this is. This gets my gourd. And I'll tell you, this gets my goat. And I'll tell you why nudists do your thing. I don't have any problem with it. I know that's how we were all born. And. And I Agree to some degree that, you know, shaming our private parts. I try not to do it with my own children or my own family. God bless you. You are born that way. Let it flies, kids. But there are places where that's appropriate and places where that's not appropriate. Right. You know, nudists, I think, sometimes take it to the extreme. And one of the places I think they take it to extreme is when they start talking about family naturists. Like, the entire family's gonna go to the nudist village and run around naked. That, to me, in 2024, seems very odd. It seems off to me. Like, if you want to be a nudist because you're 18 and above and a consenting adult and you get it, fine. You bringing your children into that world seems like a recipe for disaster. And then you've got this Dr. Diffany who's swinging around his dick while he's giving, you know, DDT shots or whatever. While he's giving Covid shots. It's crazy. It's crazy. And people complained about this before, and the way the Arkansas medical board reacts is like, oh, yeah, I think this. They think this needs a second look. A second look. The first look was fine. I saw his dick. Put it back away. What are you doing? How do you let somebody practice medicine?

A (47:44)

I don't know what to say.

B (47:46)

Yeah, they haven't immediately taken his medical license away is insane. I don't. I don't know. I think this is a rather recent occurrence. I just found the story, like, a week ago. You can't let someone. Family practice medicine when he. There's videos of him clearly walking around the office naked in the middle of the fucking business day. No, the dude needs to take his medical license away immediately. Let him be a naturist or a doctor at a nature reserve or whatever. They call him nudist camp. Let him do that. Fine. I get that part with consenting adults that also are okay being around other naked people, especially during an exam. Are you kidding? It's embarrassing enough that I got to show my dick. I don't want to see yours, Doc. I just don't.

A (48:30)

That's so strange.

B (48:31)

That's not what I bargained for. I didn't come in here to see your penis. I came in here to show you mine.

A (48:36)

That it lasted this long.

B (48:37)

It's crazy. It is just crazy. Like, what is going on? How are. And you know. And you know, I'm not. I'm not going to say it. I'm going to say it. And then I'm going to get people all riled up. I'm not going to say it, but you know what I'm thinking, if you know me well enough, is that you know this guy, you know, he's probably on X.

A (49:05)

That's why I said, what is he on? But also too.

B (49:08)

Okay, no, on X, like the platform. Or probably on that too. Ecstasy. Yeah. Got it, Ted.

A (49:15)

For what? So the, the woman that he consensually had the jack off situation with in front of the other receptionist.

B (49:23)

Yes. In front of another receptionist. Now, that's not consensual.

A (49:29)

Yeah.

B (49:30)

What? No, you don't, you don't. I don't think anyone goes to work to consent to watch your boss jack off on somebody. I mean, that just doesn't happen, right? I, I. No, no, no, no. Unless you work a clear channel. And then I think you sign a piece of paper, just consenting to all kind of weird shit. Yeah. Like the time they put a guy in a refrigerator. Do you remember that? That?

A (49:57)

Yes.

B (49:57)

When they cleaned out the refrigerator and they put somebody in there, a small person, in the refrigerator, and like, left them there for 20 minutes.

A (50:04)

Oh, my God.

B (50:05)

People die that way.

A (50:06)

Oh, my God. Those morning show things used to get crazy.

B (50:09)

Oh, my God. Did they get wacky and strippers up there and all kind of like. Okay, all right. You know, if you're working at a radio station, you gotta imagine some amount of shenanigans. Do you know what I'm saying? But, but to put it, to put it. This microphone. There is a new microphone right there. Brian has been just too lazy. Just take it two inches over. No, I'm just waiting for the new setup to come. I don't want to break the new one before I get, you know. Okay. All right. This is Dr. Biffany or whatever your name is. Dude, do yourself a favor or just resign. Put us all out of our misery. No one.

A (50:47)

Was he arrested? They say he was. No, no, no, no.

B (50:50)

I don't, I didn't hear any, Anything about arrest.

A (50:52)

The complaint?

B (50:53)

Yeah, the port newscaster, the woman in, in Arkansas. She's in charge of, you know, following up on it. So she's knocking on his door. I mean, you can only imagine he shows up his door with a half heart. It's like it's all overblown. Fake news. I mean, honestly, this. I don't know what's going on. Just weird. Weird.

A (51:13)

Yeah, that is definitely a weird. Strange, weird.

B (51:17)

People in all professions, including podcasting. Look at Chrissy and I. But we're not walking around the studio naked, and we're not generally hurting anybody. But when there's a weird doctor, it always creeps me out. You know, I always like to think that if you have to get through 30 years of school and interning. Yeah. You know, apprenticeship and all that other stuff, and that you.

A (51:37)

It's like the code of ethics, too, right?

B (51:39)

The Hippocratic oath. Doesn't that involve something do no harm to no harm? And I mean, generally, when I think about do no harm, not subjecting people to look at my penis is one of those things I think about. Don't ever let somebody see your penis on purpose. I mean, honestly. And that's just weird. I don't know. And who's going to this doctor?

A (52:01)

Well, I don't know.

B (52:02)

Especially after the first complaint a number of years ago about him being a nudist in the office, like, you would think that you would go, oh, it's Blytheville, Arkansas. I'm sure word got around. You know what I'm saying?

A (52:14)

I mean, Arkansas is very red, quote, unquote. So, yeah, I'm surprised, like, some very conservative, like, religious people weren't all over that to begin with.

B (52:25)

I don't know. Sometimes, you know, what's good for the goose is not always good for the gander. You know what I'm saying? It's a goose, it's a gander. We talked about this. So I, you know, whatever. If you live in Blytheville, Dr. Biffany is out of service right now. That's all.

A (52:40)

Yeah.

B (52:41)

Don't go to Dr. Biffany. Biffany.

A (52:43)

David.

B (52:44)

Dr. Dave. Oh, yeah, Doc. You're not prepared for what comes next. No, it's my dick. Spoiler alert. It's Venus. It's coming. Here it comes. Oh, got it on the pizza order. Another one. Corporate credit card. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have a successful naked practice. Oh, yeah.

A (53:10)

I mean, the women weren't naked. It didn't look like.

B (53:12)

No, because they. And, you know, like poor employees of this place. You go, I mean, I know you're in Blytheville, Arkansas. There's probably not, you know, it's not Atlanta. I know that much. Right. I don't know anything about Blytheville.

A (53:26)

The opportunities.

B (53:27)

Yeah, there's not. Maybe there's less opportunities. So you get a job as a.

A (53:32)

Nurse or they're being paid really well.

B (53:35)

Yeah, they're probably. I would imagine there's bonuses all over the place. Hey, don't tell the medical board. Yeah. Bonus for you. Bonus for you, boner for you, boner for you, boner for you. Christmas card with my dick on it. Little Santa hat. You like a beard on my balls. Merry Christmas. Like a boner with a. With a little Santa hat. Oh, yeah, a beard on the balls. I can see a little face drawn in little rosy cheeks.

A (54:12)

Hands.

B (54:13)

Merry Christmas from Dr. Dave.

A (54:17)

From our family to yours.

B (54:19)

Check your balls regularly from our. From our future family to yours. Oh, my God. Dr. Dave, you've taken it to a new level, my friend. Yes, but you're welcome on the commercial. I'd love to hear exactly what the you're thinking. Honestly, I'd love to get it. I'd love to get a hold of that story and figure out what in the world Dr. Dave was thinking when he decided the nudist family practice in Blytheville, Arkansas, was a great idea. I don't know, but apparently he's been doing it for a while, so.

A (54:53)

Yeah, you know, he was able to get that far.

B (54:56)

Now what I. Yeah, he's able. He's able to take it this far. The guy's not 22. He looks like he's in his 40s. Probably looks like he's my age. What's clear is or what's not clear? What's clear is he walked around the office naked during office hours because they have lots of video of it, and they. And now it's on social media. What's. Annie took pictures of it, and he put it on Instagram. But what's not clear is, did he see patients while he was naked? That part is not clear. So while there's.

A (55:24)

Why are you not seeing patients during business hours?

B (55:28)

Because you're known as the nudist doctor, and no one wants to come here because you're a pretend doctor. I don't know. I really don't.

A (55:36)

You could afford to hire the three. The three ladies that were there.

B (55:39)

He's got the three ladies working. They all look like they're working diligently on something. I would be, too, just to keep my head down. Honestly, no pun intended. I'd be keeping my head way down. Way down. Like, under the desk. Yes, I'm right here. Hey, Dr. Dave. I'm here, but I'll be under my desk facing the wall with horse binders on.

A (56:09)

Doctor Dave.

B (56:09)

Yeah. That guy's got his own Pat McAfee show going on. He does. Good old Pat McAfee. Good old college football. What else do we talk? Ayahuasca. Aaron Rodgers. We touched on a lot today. Thank you for joining us if you're still here. Yeah, yeah. I imagine half the audience tuned out during college football. They didn't get the good ayahuasca story. No. Maybe I should flip those segments around. Oh, Christina, tell him it's gonna get good. Put a little liner in there and say it gets good. Don't worry. Punishment and reward. Punishment and reward. Punishment. It's a certain type of parenting that I do not subscribe to, but my parents did.

A (57:00)

All right, the punishment.

B (57:02)

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E (57:52)

I know.

A (57:52)

Maybe I need to get myself familiar.

B (57:54)

Yeah, you probably should download that and just start watching a few. There's some weird, weird on Twitch. Just be careful about what you tune in. And we're about to add to the oddity. So there you go. Had the commercial break on Instagram. If you would follow us, we would appreciate it. TCB podcast on Tick Tock 212-433-3822 212-4333. TCB for questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas, let us know, we'll take them. We'd love to hear from you. Tell us about your Thanksgiving story stories, your Christmas stories, your family, how family up your family is. We want to hear all about it. And tcbpodcast.com all the audio, all the video right there from one location. Get your free TCB sticker available now by hitting the contact us button. Dropped us. Drop us your address. Okay, Chrissy, I guess that's all I can do for today.

A (58:43)

I think so.

B (58:44)

I know. But I'll tell you that I love you.

A (58:45)

I love you.

B (58:46)

Best to you. Best to you and best of you out there in the podcast cast universe. Until next time. Chrissy and I always say we do say and we must say goodbye. I have nothing.