Bryan's Orange Crush

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Commercial Break – Episode: Bryan's Orange Crush

Introduction

In the April 16, 2025 episode of The Commercial Break titled "Bryan's Orange Crush," hosts Bryan Green and Chris Joy Hoadley delve into their recent vacation to Orange Beach, Florida Bama. Blending humor with insightful commentary, the duo explores themes of overdevelopment, local culture, and the evolving landscape of beach towns, all while maintaining their signature chaotic and unpolished charm.

1. Exploring Orange Beach, Florida Bama

Bryan and Chris kick off their discussion by sharing their excitement about visiting Orange Beach, a vibrant area situated at the intersection of Florida and Alabama. They reminisce about the unique blend of cultures and the striking beauty of the Gulf Shores.

Chris Joy Hoadley [05:21]: "When I go down there, I feel like, you know, I don't know, I feel like I belong to an exclusive golf club."

2. Overdevelopment and Changing Beach Towns

A significant portion of the conversation centers on the rapid development in Orange Beach. The hosts express concern over the surge in condo buildings and the loss of the area's "sleepy" charm, attributing it to changing zoning laws and capitalist expansion.

Chris Joy Hoadley [20:14]: "And they know that they got you by the balls when they get you down there, like any good beach town does."

Bryan adds perspective from his background in commercial real estate, highlighting the influx of construction and questioning the sustainability of such growth.

3. Local Experiences: Flora Bama and Seafood Restaurants

The hosts recount their visits to iconic local establishments like Flora Bama and upscale seafood restaurants. They humorously critique the exorbitant prices of seafood, juxtaposed with the perceived quality and local sourcing.

Chris Joy Hoadley [21:37]: "Why are you charging me $38 for a baker's dozen of fried shrimp?"

Their anecdotes provide a relatable take on tourist experiences versus local realities, emphasizing the disconnect between cost and value.

4. Music Festivals and Camping Tales

Bryan and Chris share vivid stories from their festival and camping adventures, painting a picture of the quirky and sometimes chaotic nature of such events. From impromptu drum circles to unexpected encounters, their tales are both entertaining and indicative of their offbeat chemistry.

Chris Joy Hoadley [56:05]: "One year I went up and sang a Doors cover in a kilt with no underwear. Some people really enjoyed it. Some people really enjoyed it."

These narratives underscore the unpredictable and humorous aspects of their travels, highlighting their ability to find humor in every situation.

5. Upcoming Projects and Community Engagement

Looking ahead, the hosts discuss their upcoming initiatives, including the "12 Hours of TCB" event scheduled for May 31. This marathon episode aims to celebrate five years of the podcast while focusing on mental health awareness.

Chris Joy Hoadley [33:54]: "On May 31st, it's a Saturday, last day of the month. 12 hours of TCB. Six hours of celebrity guest interviews, six hours of commercial break nonsense."

They also touch upon their involvement in other podcast projects, emphasizing their commitment to expanding their content and engaging with their audience.

6. Opinions on Music Festivals: A Focus on Coachella

A substantial segment of the episode is dedicated to their critiques and observations about music festivals, particularly Coachella. Bryan and Chris dissect the rising costs, repetitive lineups, and the overall experience, offering candid opinions on what they perceive as flaws in the festival's evolution.

Chris Joy Hoadley [45:46]: "But Coachella had an amazing lineup this year. Travis Scott, to me, he's not my favorite artist."

Their candid discussion provides listeners with an insider's perspective on the music festival industry's trends and challenges.

7. Extended Rant: Blue Origin's Space Venture

Toward the episode's conclusion, Chris launches into a passionate rant about Blue Origin's recent space venture involving high-profile personalities like Katy Perry and Lauren Sanchez. He criticizes the event as a "massive PR stunt" that fails to contribute meaningfully to space exploration or address pressing global issues.

Chris Joy Hoadley [64:10]: "They are doing nothing. They are advancing nothing about space or space travel."

This segment showcases the hosts' willingness to tackle controversial topics, blending humor with serious critique, and underscores their commitment to discussing relevant societal issues.

Conclusion

In "Bryan's Orange Crush," The Commercial Break continues to deliver its hallmark blend of humor, candid conversation, and insightful commentary. Bryan and Chris navigate through personal anecdotes, societal critiques, and plans for future projects, all while maintaining an engaging and relatable dialogue. This episode not only entertains but also invites listeners to reflect on the dynamic changes in beloved locales and the broader implications of celebrity-driven ventures.

Notable Quotes:

• Chris Joy Hoadley [05:21]: "When I go down there, I feel like... I belong to an exclusive golf club."

• Chris Joy Hoadley [20:14]: "They know that they got you by the balls when they get you down there, like any good beach town does."

• Chris Joy Hoadley [21:37]: "Why are you charging me $38 for a baker's dozen of fried shrimp?"

• Chris Joy Hoadley [56:05]: "One year I went up and sang a Doors cover in a kilt with no underwear."

• Chris Joy Hoadley [33:54]: "On May 31st... 12 hours of TCB. Six hours of celebrity guest interviews, six hours of commercial break nonsense."

• Chris Joy Hoadley [45:46]: "But Coachella had an amazing lineup this year. Travis Scott, to me, he's not my favorite artist."

• Chris Joy Hoadley [64:10]: "They are doing nothing. They are advancing nothing about space or space travel."

This detailed summary captures the essence of the episode, highlighting key discussions and providing a structured overview for listeners seeking insights without accessing the full transcript.

Transcript

[Brian Green]

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

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[Brian Green]

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

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[Brian Green]

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[Pastor Dilly Dave]

And welcome back to WSHIT Sunday Power Hour sponsored by the Hard Sword of the Lord Church. The Hard Sword of the Lord. Can we take you higher? We now want to return to Question and Answers with Pastor Dilly Dave. In an email, Aretha asks, can anyone speak in tongues? Here's how Pastor Dilly responded.

Did you know that there's a right way of speaking in tongues? Did you know that the Bible says there must be an interpreter? Amen. If there is no interpreter, let him keep silent to himself and to God. Amen. So when you go to a church and you see people speaking in tongues without no interpreter, that is false. Amen. Without no interpreter. I will talk to the pastor. I will correct him. Amen.

Wise words from Pastor Dilly Dave. Have interpreter on standby when the tongue start speaking. Let's take a commercial break and hear from our sponsors and then we'll be back. Amen.

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

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[Guest]

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[Pastor Dilly Dave]

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

On this episode of the commercial break. And so it's just a different vibe in Amelia Island.

[Guest]

It's an island.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

It's an island. There you go. You get a little everyone's got a little bit of island fever down there, including me. When I go down there, I feel like, you know, I don't know, I feel like I belong to an exclusive golf club or. So don't. Why are all these people here? Why are all these people. Why are you here? You don't live here. Why are you here? I'm going to the massage. I'm going to the Ritz for a massage. I'll be at the Ritz for a massage.

[Guest]

The Ritz was beautiful.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

That'll be $720, sir.

[Guest]

That is expensive.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I didn't even get a massage. That's for the, that's for the sense, just the smell of the, the smell of the spa. $720, sir. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. 2:30 in the morning. Oh yeah, cats and kittens. Welcome back the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Chris Joy Hoadley. Best you, Chris Hay, Best you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for joining us on yet another, another, another episode of the commercial break. This the commercial break. You're gonna need the commercial break. My new best friends at the commercial.

[Commercial Announcer]

Break wanted to tell you that they fuck ghosts.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Tune in to the next Dr. Phil for a ghost fucking episode.

[Guest]

Yes.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Also, we're gonna hogtie some immigrants and throw them over the border on the commercial break. If I'm not Dr. Sheriff Phil, he's gonna add sheriff to his name.

[Guest]

How do you know me? That's what he said to that guy.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

How do you know me?

[Guest]

You're on TV.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, you're on TV in Mexico. Saludes, amigos. Dr. Phil. Well, what can you do?

[Guest]

Regulators, mount up.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Mount up. Hoo Ha hoo. Nah. Dr. Phil on the block, he got hard. He got hard all of a sudden. Gives me chills from a willy hoo hoo, willy hoo hoo. Speaking of the border. Florabama Never. We're back from vacation. I'm red and ready. I'm red and ready. Tina tan and tweezes now re reopen.

[Guest]

You've got definitely a good tan going on.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I do have a good tan. My wife was like, you are dark. And I said, yes, that's because I cover myself in oil. Well, here's my game plan. I'll tell. I'll share it with you. For all those who care. For all those who care to get that 80s burnt sienna look, I go for, I go for about 45 to 50 minutes. 11 to 1pm that area, the sun area.

[Guest]

The searing time.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

The searing time. Yes. I'm watching a lot of Top Chef right now. Yes, that's right.

[Guest]

On both sides.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

The crudo. I'm going for crudo seared on both sides, raw in the middle. Yeah. So you go there and you just do a little bit of sun. You get a little sun kiss. That's what you do. And then you dial yourself up with all the sunscreen. But because my face is so used to being a different shade of brown, I just put the 30 on my face after that. But it works. I didn't get sunburned at least 30.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I was out in the sun a lot, and I went to Flora Bama, and now I never expected I would be a Flora Bama kind of guy. I was mainly a Flora kind of guy. But I went to the Bama side, and I gotta be honest, as I went to Orange beach, which, for those of you that don't know, Florabama is exactly what it sounds like. It is part Florida, part Alabama. It's right. Right on the line of Florida and Alabama where the two meet. The very little beach that Alabama has is like Orange Beach. Like that Orange beach in the Gulf. In the Gulf. Gulf Shores. That kind of area of Mexico. The Gulf of Mexico. Where do you know me from? The Gulf of Mexico, bro. And Flora Bama gets its name from a very famous bar named the Flora Bama. Now, I don't know the whole story, but the way that it was told to me, and I'm sure this is true, I've done no research on this. So if I'm wrong, that's. Just add that to the list. But the. There was a property that somebody bought. They rejiggered the lines for the Florida Bama. Florida Alabama state lines. And this guy's property was right in the middle of it, and somebody built a bar on top of it. Some ingenu. Some engineers built a bar. They call it the Flora Bama.

[Guest]

They used to have a mullet toss there.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, they do a lot of stuff. It's a mullet.

[Guest]

As in the fish?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, mullet is in the fish. But you can probably find a few mullets there too, though. It's very in vogue to be at this. In this part of the world right now if you're not part in vogue. Yeah, I say in vogue to a certain pop part of the population. Trey Crowder, by the way, is this week's TCP infomercial, in case you're wondering. Go check it out. I enjoyed my Conversation with Trey, by the way.

[Guest]

Yeah, no, it was a good one.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Trey crowder.com for all the information. Go listen to the episode. So Florida, long known for its beautiful beaches, its condo friendly retirement friendly, party friendly atmosphere has been built up. And the land is very expensive. Anywhere you go and there's a beach in Florida, you are paying out the nose for land, for condos, for houses. There just is very little left in the way of kind of like slow beach towns in Florida. They exist, but they're not going to exist for much longer.

[Guest]

And beaches are beautiful.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

They are. They're gorgeous. Especially the Gulf side. From Naples all the way to Florida Bama, all the way to Perdido Key, which is the, the furthest west you can go into Florida. And so. And I've spent a lot of time on those beaches. We all have. If you live in Atlanta, it's our backyard. So that's where we go. So A1A, which is the highway that runs along the coast, really, from like the armpit of the Gulf all the way to perdido key, A1A has gotten extraordinarily ritzy and expensive. And you see these A1A stickers, like you see student driver stickers all over the place. And basically what that means is you're paying too much for your vacation. You're an asshole. I'm sorry, but you're an asshole.

[Guest]

Yeah, there's whole communities.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

There's whole community.

[Guest]

Families go every year and it's a whole thing. And they have these private beaches.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I told you this. Yeah. Florida allows for private beaches, private beach access in some places. And so last year we went on vacation to Panama City, to Margaritaville, which is not private access beach. I'll share that. Not even on the beach. You have to walk across the street. But we went down a 18 to go have lunch. And we brought the. We thought, okay, let's bring the stuff, we'll have lunch, we'll go to the beach. Because we had been to this place before, and I'm not going to name it by name, but if you know A1A, then you know which beach I'm talking about. You know which community I'm talking. Yes, there you go. And we went to go get beach access and fuck if I'm not kidding. The goddamn gate was locked. The gate was locked. It was locked. And people were pressing in a code and going in. And these people were not interested in letting you in. Do you know what I'm saying? They were like real dicks about it. They were Hiding the code. And so meanwhile, some dude just kind of like kicked the door open and I ran and held the door like a total redneck. Meanwhile, somebody is in their fancy beach, seventeen million dollar beach house watching me do this and I'm like, hey, just waiting for the family.

[Guest]

You had the kids at least.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I had the kids, Yeah, I had the kids. So you know, that to me, I don't. Even if I had the money to stay at one of those places, I don't feel the need to keep everybody else out. It's just not my style. Like, it's a beach, let everyone enjoy it. I mean, unless they're causing trouble and then I can understand why, you know, okay, you don't want camping on the beach, all right, I get that. You don't want people driving on the beach, all right? I get that. You don't even want alcohol on the beach with teenagers and spring break. I get that. Also, you want to keep some semblance of like, you know, keep it family friendly or whatever. Keeping people out because they didn't pay $10,000 a night to stay at your little, you know, Chip and Joanna Gaines cottage. Doesn't feel all that great to me. Anywho, Flora Bama, the bar. If you've ever watched the show Flora Bama Shores, then you will know what a great. That is a tribute redneck.

[Guest]

It is.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

That is like the apex of redneck reality tv. And listen, as much as I am an Irish boy from Chicago and always will be, I can play with the rednecks. Like, I don't. I'm not, I'm not angry at rednecks. I don't paint them all a certain color. I don't think they. And quite frankly, they're fun. They're fun, yes, they're fun and they can be super nice. And they got that southern style and southern charm and, And I like it. It's. It's very much in fashion right now. But I've always being, you know, spending most of my life here in Georgia, I've always had a certain affin for it. I can have a southern draw when I need to. You know what I'm saying? And there's two types of southern draws. Remember, Chrissy, there's the southern draw from the old money, which is like, you know, my former mother in law, Brian. There's two types of people with money in this world. The kind that show it and the kind that know it. And then there's like redneck. There's like down south redneck, you know, new Money kind of that twang. Yeah, they got that twang. So the Flora Bama has a line down the middle of it. One side you're on Florida, one side you're in Alabama.

[Guest]

They've got Bushwhackers there.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

And I believe that the. That. Yeah, Bushwhackers is the drink. And my dad was going crazy over Bushwhackers.

[Guest]

I love them.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Oh, my God, I did.

[Guest]

Right there with your dad?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, my dad, like this, like, Midwestern meat packing guy all of a sudden is drinking Bushwhackers.

[Guest]

They're delicious.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

And eating fried cheese.

[Guest]

Frosty.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

A frosty with liquor. Yeah, that's what it is. So the bar and I believe the guys, Flora Bama, the band, the country music sensation from the early 2000s that were around for a minute, I believe their whole shtick was one guy played in Florida and one guy played in Alabama, but on the same stage. I think that's how they got their name. I don't know, but that's what somebody told me. So we go to Orange beach, where my parents, My stepmom and my dad have rented a. One of the few townhouses that remain directly on the beach.

[Guest]

Like, so nice.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Five townhouses. They rented one of them for a.

[Guest]

Month, like Airbnb or.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, I think they did it through one of those VBRL or something like that. But they found somebody. It was a relative, you know, it's pricey, but it wasn't so pricey. I thought it was actually a pretty decent price for being right on the beach. Like, open up the back door, walk down off your patio, and you're on the beach. And the beaches are huge there. They're like a football field deep. So they're beautiful. White sand, the kind of white sand that's like salt. I mean, it's so tiny. Oh, just lovely. And it was really nice. The townhouse was appropriate enough. It was, you know, done up and all that. You know, leave your sandals here, you know, all that bullshit, sand dollars all over the place.

[Guest]

Life's a beach.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Life's a beach. Get kicking. My coffee's a margarita, right?

[Guest]

All the little things, all the little.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Snick schnacks that go around, you know, sand dollars everywhere, shiplap, everywhere. You know, wainscoting everywhere. You know. You know how it goes. Tile floors that have. Where your feet. Where you have to get a towel to wipe your feet before you get in bed because everything has sand on it. But we go down there, and one thing I noticed about Orange beach is that Orange beach is extraordinarily new. Now, here's the word on the street about Orange beach. And I know this for a fact because when I worked in commercial real estate, when you and I first started this show, I got a call from another, what they call merchant banker, which is like a broker of. Of capital for big commercial projects. And he called me in on a deal. And then he had me drive down one night so that the next day we could meet a guy who was doing a deal in Gulf Shores, which is a little further away from the Florida Bama line. Orange Beat. Think about moving west. Florida, Bama, or Perdido Key, Alabama. Alabama. Perdido Key, Florida, moves into Flora, Bama moves into Orange beach, then moves into Gulf Shores. So, all right, on this one strip, this 20 mile, 25 mile long strip. So I go down there, and when I went down there, right at the beginning of the pandemic, everyone's scared, wearing masks, you know, not coughing on each other, all that bullshit. I just remember, all I remember are these huge buildings coming out of the ground and crane after crane after crane after crane on the beach. Just huge amounts of development. And I remember thinking to myself at the time, wow, either all of these guys are completely fucked because of the pandemic, or something's going on here that like, I've never seen before. It's like Miami or something, you know, it's all these cranes down here. The reason why it's relatively new, I'm assuming, is because they must have changed the zoning laws and allowed for this dense development of these condos and these hotels.

[Guest]

Did they have any kind of, like, you know, how the hurricanes come and all of that? Did they have any kind of damage that they had to rebuild from?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I don't think so. Not that I remember. Not that I recall. My assumption is the town was founded, Orange beach was founded in 1984. They probably had the old guard, you know, a bunch of homeowners sitting on the board who were like, you know, okay, we wanted to keep it a sleepy old beach town and have a few little condo buildings here and there. Money talks, but money talks. And the new, the new people, you know, we all know capitalism has officially taken over everything. And we don't give a shit anymore. We just want. We don't give a shit about our sleepy town. We want to make money. And man, have they made hay from these beautiful beaches. Because it is just condo building after condo building after condo building. Not necessarily my style of beach. You know, I'd much rather be in Like a sleepy beach town or a little bit more cozy of a beach town. But I will say this. I had a great time. The town is fresh. It's new looks fresh and new. You have to. They don't have left turns there. Everything's a U turn, which is amazing. I called it U turn city because you cannot take a left in. So let's imagine you're driving and the beach is on your left and all those big condo buildings. You got to get to your condo building. You can't take a left into the condo building. You have to go down the street, make a U turn where they have a light for the U turn. They have U turn lights.

[Guest]

Oh, wow.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

So they stop the traffic going the other way and the U turn light goes on and you make a U turn. And they even have a little extra shoulder on the road so that you can, you know, kind of dip over.

[Guest]

Look at that.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

They're thinking about this, right. I don't know why they are so opposed to left turns down there, but. Okay, there's a lot of condo buildings.

[Guest]

Flow of traffic.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Flow of traffic. There's a lot of condo buildings. So they have to have left turns. The whole.

[Guest]

Yeah. Otherwise you're stopping.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. It's either that suicide lane, you know, the big lane going down the middle of the road, or the median, which is much prettier and much more managed and people aren't trying to kill each other. So everything's new. It's all fresh, and there's a lot of development and beautiful things. I would call it redneck chic going on down there. Redneck chic. I don't know any other way to explain it. Yeah, I like that it's family friendly. There's a lot of. At least when we went. There's a lot of families. I was told by some locals that spring break, college, and summer can be. Is next week.

[Guest]

Okay.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

And the locals. Spring break, which is Auburn, Alabama, you know, all those. The Alabama colleges. When that comes on, then you're really getting kind of crazy. But, man, I'll tell you what, Chrissy, it was beautiful. Astrin and I went and had a beautiful dinner at a restaurant named Coastal. I have never seen a beach restaurant like this in my entire life. It was so incredibly big.

[Guest]

It was like overlooking the water and you saw the sunset.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

That's it. The whole nine yards. And it was just this huge, beautiful restaurant serving pricey but good food in a.

[Guest]

What'd you have?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I had shrimp and grits. I had fresh shrimp and grits. I went outside my normal, like that. You did that cheeseburger in paradise kind of vibe. So I'm on the beach, you know, listen, here's my thing about being on a beach.

[Guest]

I've got to have seafood when I go to the beach.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Everybody says that, but I get a little nervous about having seafood on the beach. And I'll tell you what, I get a little upset and a little bit.

[Guest]

They do a lot of shrimping in that area. They do local, fresh shrimp.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

You can see them at night. You can see those boats right off the. You know, a couple hundred yards off the water, and they're shrimping. But then why are you charging me 38 fucking dollars for a baker's dozen of fried shrimp?

[Guest]

Because they had to build the restaurant.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Exactly $40 million is what I was told this cost because they built a breaker on the restaurant so if a hurricane comes, it doesn't wash the restaurant away. They were thinking at about $40 million. That's a lot of shrimp and grits you got to sell. That's a lot of baker's dozen of. Of local shrimp. But everyone always raves about the local seafood. The local seafood. I don't know. I like my seafood packed in a box and frozen. And travel a couple hours. I don't know. Something. I don't know.

[Guest]

I'm a crab girl. I love the crab. You know I love the crab.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I know you love the crab. No matter the price. Don't even ask the price. Give me three dozen of those. Chrissy. We have this seafood restaurant here. Beautiful, lovely place. We've been to a lot. Astrid and I love this place. I'm not gonna name it by name, but the waiter comes over, tells the special. It's. It's snow crab. Or was it snow crab? Rock crab? Rock crab, yeah. Rock crab. Tender, lovely, sweet meat.

[Guest]

Succulent.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Succulent, lovely. $72 a claw. We're selling them by the dozen, and Chrissy orders five dozen and then eats four dozen of them. And the bill came. It was like $6,000. Poor Chrissy put it on the car. Yeah. Had had better days. She was already in the cups. And so Rachel and I looked at each other, like, just split it five way. Just split it four ways. It's fine. Just don't worry about it. She's like, wait, I didn't know it was that much. I thought it was 72 per order. We're like, no, it's 72 per crab, per claw.

[Guest]

They were delicious.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

We went. We had a great time. It was right it was exactly what the doctor ordered, that break, that getaway. Yeah, we were running up against it for the last, you know, since really Christmas, we've been running up against it. And so I. But Astrid and I looked at each other at the end of the trip or while we were having dinner and we said, this could be a place where we run.

[Guest]

I like it.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

My go to has always been one of three places. Charleston, Amelia island or Naples, Florida. But here is the problem with all three of those places now.

[Guest]

It's far.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

It's far, especially Naples. It's expensive, and it's getting more expensive every time we go. And Amelia island, the sleepy little town that everybody falls in love with, you may say to yourself, the fuck is Amelia Island? It's nothing. That's what it is. It's where the first Ritz Carlton ever in the United States of America opened. The Ritz Carlton.

[Guest]

Spanish moss and just the beautiful vibe, slow vibe.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

But it has been extraordinarily crowded and extraordinarily expensive the last couple times we went. We used to have. Well, I'm not going to say that listen there. Yeah, we've spent a lot of time there. A lot of time I stayed down.

[Guest]

There during the pandemic.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

It's beautiful, it's lovely, but the beaches are different because you're on the Atlantic side. So the water is colder, it's rougher and it gives you, like. And all of the water mainly up and down the east coast is brackish. Unless you get all the way down to like, Miami, like go past kind of Cape Canaveral, the water is brackish. And so it's a different type of water. You can't see the water. Like you can't see when you step in, you can't see your feet because it's brackish water. It's, you know, fresh and ocean watered, muddy, kind of salty, weird water. But it's a lovely town. There's nothing quite as quaint and lovely as Amelia island. But it's no secret anymore. So it's overdeveloped, it's highly crowded. They are not building anything else because the old guard is always going to be there. They're never going to let that island get any more developed. And so it's just a different vibe in Amelia Island. It's an island. There you go. You get a little. Everyone's got a little bit of island fever down there, including me. When I go down there, I feel like, you know, I don't know, I feel like I belong to an Exclusive golf club or so. Don't. Why are all these people here? Why are all these people. Why are you here? You don't live here. Why are you here? I'm going to the massage. I'm going to the Ritz for a massage. I'll be at the Ritz for a massage.

[Guest]

That Ritz was beautiful.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

That'll be $720, sir.

[Guest]

That is expensive.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I didn't even get a massage. That's for the. That's for the scents. Just the smell of the. The smell of the spa. $720, sir. Okay. It's getting a little ant. So Orange beach presents itself as a good old. And also. So I spent a lot of time in Amelia island when I only had one child or no children. So now that I have many children, it's just a whole different animal. The struggle is real. The struggle is real. Everyone is feeling it. Everyone is feeling the pinch and the squeeze and it's not getting better and doesn't look like it's going to get better anytime soon. So to find a place where you can go where it's still reasonably, you know, I will say this about Orange Beach. Beach, it's beautiful. It's got that chip and go Joanna redneck vibe everywhere. You know, everything's white and lovely and clean and open. But they know that they got you by the balls when they get you down there, like any good beach town does. You can go to these little, you know, the crab shack or whatever the fuck they call it. And every town has a. By the way, every beach town has a crab shack or a crab trap and they all have the best shrimp in the world. You know what I'm saying? But none of them really have the best shrimp in the world. But they get you in that restaurant and they know they're going to charge you $30 for a bushwhacker and $38 for a baker's dozen of shrimp they caught two minutes away. They didn't cost that much money. You picked it up off the ocean floor and put it in a basket. How does it cost? $38? I don't know, but that's okay. I'm. Well, you know, if you got to pay for the restaurants, at least you're not paying as much for this, for the stay and the place in general. So I will share that. You never thought I would be an Orange beach kind of guy. I. I might be an Orange beach kind of guy.

[Guest]

I like it.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I might be an Orange beach kind of guy.

[Guest]

Was it more families that you Saw or would it be something Jeff and I would like as a little getaway?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I don't think you and Jeff would be disappointed. Yeah, but it, you know. And they have some of the biggest bars I have ever seen in my entire life. The Flora Bama is big in and of itself, but there are two that dot each end of the. The kind of the Flora Bama area. The Orange beach in Gulf Shores. There's a place called the Hangout.

[Guest]

Oh, yeah, the Hangout Fest.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. There is a huge bar there with multiple stages. Kind of weird. You drive down, you get into Gulf Shores. It's a little bit older, it's a little bit more dense there with retail and restaurants and stuff like that. And you're driving and you see the beach on the left and all of a sudden you have a little bit of development, couple condo buildings. And then on the corner of the major intersection is a huge bar called the Hangout. And they have a stage, like an actual huge stage with a cover on it and everything. And my son and I were driving to go get some pizza in Gulf Shores and bring it back. And I got the window rolled down and it sounded like these guys were playing inside of my car. They were, by the way, they were playing Nickelback and they were covering Nickelback. But that's the kind of vibe it is, right? Okay, that's kind of vibe it is. And you could see him on the stage as you were sitting there at the stoplight. They were like right there on the stage playing to hundreds and hundreds of people.

[Guest]

Maybe we'll have to check it out. In fact, Jeff is consulting on another festival that's in that area.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

There you go.

[Guest]

So I think I'm gonna target that for us to go down there. We can check it out.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I wouldn't say no to a trip down to Orange Beach. Spend a couple of days there. They've got great food. But what I really want in a beach trip, the most important thing for me in the beach trip is the beach. That's what I want, a beautiful beach.

[Guest]

Yeah, no, that's important.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I want to be able to get out there. I'm not a kind of like lay in the sand for four hours kind of guy, but if I could take a walk up and down the beach, if I can splash in the water a little bit, I get my son. And I don't mean my son, my kid. The son, the son, the son, the father, the holy spirit and all that jazz. Yeah. If I can. If I can do a little star sun gazing a Little sun worshiping. Then I'm good.

[Guest]

The stars at night.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Did you see the stars?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

We saw the pink moon. We saw the pink moon the first night we got there. We, we got there really late. The micro moon, which was not micro at all. It was actually very large, at least where we were from our view. We got there the first night. It was late, it was dark, it was way past the kids bedtime. We had been driving all day after we picked one of my kids up from school. And we got there and we look out, we go on the back deck and there's hundreds of people that are walking up and down the beach with flashlights. And I thought, oh, it must be turtle season. Yeah, but it's not turtle season. That's why they can actually. Because in, at least in Amelia island, you cannot actually have a flashlight out on the beach if it's turtle season or I think anytime really, because you confuse the turtles and they look at the lights and even the lights on the back of buildings have to be a certain color so they don't think it's the moon. So. But what it was is just a bunch of families out there taking a stroll in the at night. That's the kind of beach it is, I guess, you know, if you're at Florida, night stroll, little night stroll with, you know, some dibbity dabs in a drink. Yeah. Slush Puppy or whatever they call them. And so the kids got.

[Guest]

You could see the stars. So it wasn't so bright in this part of town.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

It wasn't the star iest of beaches, but you could certainly see the stars also. It was a full moon when we were there, or mostly a full moon and then a full moon. So the moon kind of drowned out some of the stars. I think it was a dark night. I would have been able to see a lot. But we see these people out there with the flashlight. The kids got really excited. Dad, I want to go out there. I said, we don't have any flashlights. You're smelling the beach.

[Guest]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

So the last night as a kid.

[Guest]

I just remember being so.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I know the last. They were just really excited about this. The last night. Last day, we go to a souvenir store. They're selling these cheap little, you know, seven dollar flat waterproof flashlights. Everyone got one. And the pink moon came out, sun went down and we went out with our flashlights and we ran around and that's that. Those are the memories you remember. Those are the things you remember. 100 and those are the Things they'll remember. And you cap off a trip and you say, well, I'm rested and ready to get back to yet another episode of the Gun Virus. All of.

[Guest]

Yeah, Jeff and I were. We were making the bed this morning, and he said, up. Back to work.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

There you go.

[Guest]

Back to tcv.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Back to tcv.

[Guest]

That's right. And I have to say, you know, I was excited. I did miss it.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

You do? Yeah, I did yesterday. I was excited. I thought, well, I get to get back with my friend and have a conversation. Exactly. Listen, it's all. This is not. We're not digging ditches. This isn't the worst thing in the world. And I will say, say this. Many, many, many text messages on that phone when I came back. And that really put a smile on my face. Many. Three. No, no. A lot of people had been texting us while we were gone. I left the phone. Yeah, I decided to turn it all off. I put it on personal mode. I turned it off.

[Guest]

Good for you.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

And I left the studio phone here. Sometimes we'll take it if we go on vacation so we can respond to people or check messages or whatever. But we left it here and we. I came back to a lot of messages. It really put a smile on my face.

[Guest]

We'll get back to you next year.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, we'll get back to you next year. I tried to resp everybody last night, but if you haven't had a response, it's coming. And we sent out another round of stickers. A lot of people said they got their stickers. Congratulations. Stay tuned. On May 31, the 12 hours of TCB, which might end up being a baker's dozen, but stay tuned, kids, because now the. Everyone. So many celebrities have gotten excited about this, and now they're asking to come on the 12 hours of TCB, which, I don't know, maybe we'll just make it 12 hours of celebrities and we won't even do live shows. I don't know. We'll see.

[Guest]

We'll see how this all shakes out.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

We'll see how it all shakes out. But on May 31st, it's a Saturday, last day of the month. 12 hours of TCB. Six hours of celebrity guest interviews, six hours of commercial break nonsense. Celebrating five years of the commercial break and putting some focus on mental health awareness. The mental health awareness month is May. Chrissy and I feel strongly that we are mentally ill. So there you go. Yes, we do. So we feel strongly that we're mentally ill, that we need help. All right, so let's do this. Let's take a break. We got lots more to talk about. We're back. I got a lot of stuff built up, so let's get it all out in this episode and we'll be back to boring tomorrow. We'll be back. You make this rather snappy, won't you? I have some very heavy thinking to do before 10 o'clock.

[Rachel]

Hi cats and kittens. Rachel here. Do you ever get the urge to speak endlessly into the void like Brian? Well, I've got just the place for you to do. Do that. 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Feel free to call and yell all you want. Tell Brian I need a raise. Compliment Chrissy's innate ability to put up with all his shenanigans, or tell us a little story. The juicier the better. By the way, we love to hear your voice because Lord knows we're done listening to ourselves. Also, give us a follow on your favorite socials at the commercial break on Insta TCB podcast on TikTok. And for those of you who like to watch. Oh, that came out wrong. We put all the episodes out on video, YouTube.com the commercial break and tcbpodcast.com for all the info on the show, your free sticker or just to see how pretty we look. Okay, I gotta go now. I've got a date with my dog. No, seriously, Axl needs food. Today is pork chop day.

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Oh, I did want to mention one other thing, Chrissy. I will Mike Pesca, our friend from the very lovely podcast the Gist the Date, the longest running daily news podcast out there. Mike has been doing this for a very long time. He's very smart and he has not been so intelligent with his guest choices. Because tomorrow this is coming out on Wednesday, Thursday I will be on his secondary podcast called Not Even Mad, which you can get on the Gist feed. Or they have their own RSS feed called Not Even Mad. It goes both places. I will be on Not Even Mad. And here's the premise of the show. Mike plays mediator to one person who thinks one way and one person who thinks the other way and they yell at each other and then they go out. But we're not even mad. So we're going to be talking about the state of podcasting and pod the podcast universe, including some noted controversy that has popped up around Joe Rogan and some things he said and some guests that he's had and some things that Sam Harris said about those guests that he had and some pushback Joe got about, you know, some stuff. I won't get into it here. It's not here. But if you want to hear my opinions on that kind of stuff, then check out Not Even Mad. Go to the Gist feed. I'll put a link in the show notes tomorrow to go get that. And yeah, that's exciting. Listen to me outside this universe. Okay, so here's one other thing that I wanted to talk about because I think it's important. We had that big conversation about why music festivals are costing so much money. Music, music in general, live events, live entertainment. And man, did we get a lot of response about this. A lot of people shared that they are also fed up with the music prices. They agreed with something that I said, even though I didn't really mean this to be a solution to the problem. I was just making a suggestion that if they would lower the ticket prices, then people would go see more live music more often. They would feel more comfortable spending that budget in other places and supporting more local artists and more live artists and stuff like that. And so, you know, yeah, it seems like a simple economic, like, supply and demand kind of thing. You only have so much money, you can only spend it. So many places. You pick one concert a year to go to to, essentially, because it costs $875,000. And so we've. We talked about this with no intention of running up against Coachella weekend number one. But we did. We ran that right as Coachella weekend number one was. Was happening. So Coachella weekend number one under call. It's in the books. And weekend number two coming up.

[Guest]

Yeah, there were a lot of highs and lows from whatever.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I will have to say this.

[Guest]

We tuned into some of it, and we did see the Missy Elliott set, and it was really good. And the Fila Kutai Kuti his son.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Okay. The Cootie Hooty Pooty.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Fila Kahooti Hooty Pooty. I'm not familiar with some of those artists, but it's hard to be familiar with all of the artists that play at Coachella, because ever since day one of Coachella, they have really made a name for themselves, being very eclectic and getting some of the biggest names. Names, but not the names you always think of. Right. Like, people who are very popular, but in a viral sense that don't get a lot of, like, mainstream.

[Guest]

Bernie was there this year, which is insane.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

But I want to. I want to see this about the overall festival, Coachella itself. It seemed like in 2018, Coachella was kind of the apex predator of festivals, and everybody wanted to be Coachella. Everyone wanted to be at Coachella. Ticket prices were in the thousands of dollars on the resale market. It sold out in minutes, literally. And I think that was maybe its eighth or ninth year in 2018, something like that. But I just looked before we came on air this morning, and Coachella's secondary tickets for weekend number two are going basically at face value. And there are still tickets available on the actual Coachella Stagecoach website. So you can get those tickets still now, today, a couple days before it happens, which tells me a couple things. In general, at least, I'm. I'm Inferring this, I don't think Coachella is the huge deal. It's not at its zenith, let's put it that way. I think it's still a big deal to a lot of people, but I don't think it's at its zenith. It's not at its height of power. And I think a lot of people may be fed up with the idea that they have to pay thousands and thousands of dollars to show up to a really well produced fashion show, essentially. Right. A fashion show with a great playlist, essentially. At the end of the day, these artists get paid millions of dollars, these headliners for showing up for 45 minute hour long sets at Coachella. And some of the most famous sets from some of the most famous artists in the world have happened at. At Coachella. They make news every year because Coachella is a big fucking deal. And it will be for the. For the foreseeable future. But I'm a little bit happy to hear that people aren't so caught up in the hype that, like, there's a little bit of the steam, the foam. The foam is off the head, so to speak. Chrissy, A little bit about Coachella because it tells me that we're pushing back a little bit on the idea that you have to spend $4,000 just for the price of admission to go see these artists play these 45 minute hour long sets. Travis Scott was there hanging people upside down. What was that about? I have no idea. Can Travis Scott. What do you think about Travis Scott? I know this is a hot button issue, but what do you think about Travis Scott?

[Guest]

I know a lot of people love him. I enjoy some of his music. I guess he's not my first choice to put on, though.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

No, he's not in my rotation behind Frozen, the Cars soundtrack and Huey Lewis in the news, which for some inexplicable reason, my children are into right now. He's not. They are. Yeah. Don't ask.

[Guest]

Yeah, hello.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

One of my kids is into We Built this city on rock and roll because it's in one of the animated movies.

[Guest]

Those animated movies really do bring stuff back into rotation.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

They do sing. I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor is now a big in rotation around my house. There's some good ones and then there's some one where you're like, that's like literally named the worst song ever, ever. And it's on repeat, but there's some hollow notes in there and some stuff that makes it more digestible. And when you're on an Seven hour car ride and they're in control of the music. Sometimes you got to demand that that song move to the next one. You got to be like, okay, we've heard that enough. No more. We built this city on rock and roll. It's crap. No one likes it. But Coachella had an amazing lineup this year. Travis Scott, to me, he's not my favorite artist. And I do believe, like an after.

[Guest]

Party or some kind of. He had a special party, I think.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. I mean, I think Travis Scott gets a lot of clout because of who he's married to or used to be married.

[Guest]

They're not together anymore. Now she's with Tim and Timothy. There's a lot of PDA going on, apparently.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

May the Tim. May the shalom live on forever. Good for you, Timothy. Listen, and divorce is hard and separation is hard. And I don't. I. I don't. I'm. I'm not. That's not an enviable position to be in for Travis, I'm sure. And he's a talented artist, no doubt. He's got a lot of people that like his music, and there are some songs that I'm really into. But all of the imagery and the working the crowd up and the hype, I mean, he put people in a pretty dangerous situation last time. Him and the promoters and the. The. The people who put on that festival in Houston. And then. I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I have mixed feelings about Travis Scott being. Being at Coachella, but I'm not the guy making the choices, so who fucking cares what I have to say? But Lady Gaga showed up looking like a demon dragon. What is. I know that's her thing.

[Guest]

Amazing.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I know that's her thing. I get it. But honestly, these outfits are absolutely wild. She looked like a devil. Like a horned devil coming. And she had those weird fingernails. Yeah. The weird hands and the weird nails. I like my Lady Gaga slimmed down with the fashion. I think she's good. She's very fashionable person. Anyway. I could do without all the costumer, costume dreams, whatever you call it.

[Guest]

Dress.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I know she did the meat dress, which I'm sure smelled wonderful. If you happen to be sitting next to her at the Grammys. Or wasn't it the Grammys that she did the meat dress. Billy Joe Armstrong came out with the Go Go's and played a few. They'll be Green Day will be playing. I think they're playing in weekend number two. Or did they play in weekend number? Oh, maybe they're playing both weekends. Something like that, I guess.

[Guest]

These are played. And there's all of that that's happening with the bassist's wife. Did you hear about that?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I did. I wanted to talk about that.

[Guest]

Yeah. That's pretty crazy. She got shot by the police.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, she got shot by the police because she was threatening to shoot the police, which is kind of a dumb thing to do. Like, you don't point. She must obviously have some problems.

[Guest]

Yeah, there was something going on there.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

But the weird thing is, is that, like, I don't know, would you then go play? No Coachella?

[Guest]

I mean, that's the thing.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Do you. No.

[Guest]

If Jeff had some kind of mental breakdown and was shot by the Georgia Patrol?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yes.

[Guest]

I think I would be staying here to help.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. I think I would bow out of the fashion show that is Coachella. Find somebody else to take my place. Place. I mean, I don't know what the deal is individually with a band, like, what those contracts look like inside of the band, but I gotta imagine there is, like some empathy for the fact that your wife just got shot and. Hey, bro, I'm gonna go play Coachella. You know. Hey, honey. Playing Coachella. Sorry about all that mental illness and that whole gun thing. I'll be a Coachella. Yeah. I hope it works out. I guess you never know what's going on in someone's relationship, but you can find a. Like a studio basis to fill in something. Something. I mean, doesn't. Flea's always around. Isn't Flea always available for that kind of shit? Seems like Flea is a guy you call whenever your bassist is wife is shot by somebody. Call Flea. He's got a lot of energy. Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga played Benson, Boone, Missy Elliott, Marina, Three Sacred Souls. Gabe Gabriel, Tiffany, Tyson. The Go Go's Tyler Kneecap. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to give you the bigger ones. Indio in Indo Warehouse. Masio. Yeah. Okay. You know, pay $1,000 for that. I don't. I don't know. Maybe.

[Guest]

Is that what the face value is for Coachella? I haven't even looked.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Depends on what you get. If you get. Just get regular Coachella tickets.

[Guest]

Regular Coach ticks?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, if you get regular ticks, then it's like $576. If you get the Coachella plus, which is. I don't know, you get pictures taken of you for TMZ. No, it's not VIP. That's a whole different animal. Those are like $1400, but there's like a $900 version, that's like Coachella Plus. And I don't know what that means, but I guess you get early entry, which, by the way, a lot of people who were there for early entry camping spent 12 to 16 hours trying to get in.

[Guest]

It was explained, because I guess in the past parking was kind of first come, first serve, but this year there was some kind of reserved parking.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, it sounds like. Go back to the other way. Yeah. When you. When you're doing this for like 15 years and everybody's used to doing it one way, don't then switch it up all of a sudden, without a lot of guidance or information, which is apparently what a lot of people are complaining about. They said, I read the instructions on the website. Sounded like the instructions from last year. And then all of a sudden we get there and it's taking us and three hours to get in the front door and then another 12 hours to get in the security checkpoint. So that was. So Missy Elliot, Lady Gaga, Benson Boone were the big ones on Friday. Then you had Travis Scott, Green Day, Charlie, xcx, T Pain, Jimmy Eat World on Saturday. Yeah. Okay. Green Day, Travis Scott, Charlie, xex, T Pain, Jimmy Eat World, Jimmy World, Jimmy World. I guess it's time for them to come back. Yeah, I did like a couple of their songs.

[Guest]

Yeah, I can't remember what they are.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

But yeah, I always thought they were like on the edge of cool. Like they were like doing something a little bit different than all the, like hairy cockroach that was out at the time. Like, I don't know, like, I hate to say it because I know they're the butt of the joke, but let's make them the butt of the joke. I mean. Yeah, okay. I'm not going to. I won't shit on you today. Old 90s cockroach, old 2000s cock rock band on Sunday. Post Malone, Megan D, Stallion Shaboozi I Love Jack Glam, Jr. H Post Malone, Megan Thee, Stallion, Jack Glam, Shaboozy. That's. That sounds like a cool one, right? Wouldn't you want to do that?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

So this weekend Lady Gaga is playing Missy Elliot. Oh, it's just the same. They're just repeating the same. Oh, right.

[Guest]

That's right. I forget that there's there two weekends.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Oh, it's two weekends and all the main stages are the same. Okay. All right. I guess that's one way to do it, you know.

[Guest]

And then do you get a ticket? Your ticket only goes for a week.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

It's only one weekend. You gotta Buy a ticket per weekend. I think I prefer the way they do it at Bonnaroo, which is just one weekend. Yeah, get her done. Now I understand, like, Coachella owns that big piece of land out there. I believe they do. And they got to make that work. They got to make their money. It's very expensive. It's very expensive to get there. They put on these shows, they pay these artists a ton of money. So you really got to squeeze every dollar you can out of everybody. But I like Bonnaroo once a year. I like the idea of Bonnaroo.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I didn't actually like Bonnaroo. I just like the idea of Bonnie. Because the one time I went to Bonnaroo, I wasn't even there 48 hours. I had to go home.

[Guest]

Jeff and I were just talking.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

That was wild. That was wild. So two weekends, same people playing. Both weekends make it different, like bring in some new blood. And that way you can suck more money out of those people willing to pay all of that money. But then I also read that there's almost 14 million people that will stream one of the two weekends.

[Guest]

That's what we did on Friday night.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

How much was that?

[Guest]

I don't think it costs us any money, but Jeff has access to. To Nuggs. I think maybe it was on Nuggs.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Okay. Nuggs.

[Commercial Announcer]

Something like that.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest]

And he's like a paid member.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Okay. So you can just kind of like, you can watch it if you can't be there. And obviously not everybody can go there. They can't be there.

[Guest]

So the camping has kept me away. I don't want to go camp in the desert.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Not interested in doing any additional camping at a festival. Not the main majority of my camping at festivals has not been at mainstream festivals either. Been in Jam Land Productions, which you can only imagine I probably wasn't getting any sleep. Or at a party in the woods, which you can only imagine I probably wasn't getting much sleep. As a matter of fact, I think I was the last one. The last time I went to a party in the woods, there was a huge bonfire and there was a drum circle at like 2:30 in the morning after the music had shut down. And we're not talking Coachella stages. We're talking a stage some dude built three days ahead of time that we're all going to be lucky if it survives the week. And it's like your buddy who plays guitar at the party that you really hate finally gets a chance to stand on stage with a microphone.

[Guest]

I'm surprised you didn't display your musical abilities.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Who says I didn't? Who says I didn't? As a matter of fact, one year I went up and sang a Doors cover in a kilt with no underwear.

[Guest]

Now this tracks.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Some people really enjoyed it. Some people really enjoyed it.

[Guest]

I'm picturing this.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

And it's funny, if I was to tell. If I had to take the temperature of the crowd. Now you have to imagine this is a rusted root. Grateful Dead fish, kind of crowded root. And Brian goes up to play a cover of the Doors. The end.

[Guest]

You did the end?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

A 15 minute cover at the end. The musicians were fantastic, by the way. I didn't know John, but there was a couple hundred people standing in front of me when I started. And some people were still standing when I ended. Some of those people floated off to a bar. I mean, this is a huge area in the woods. We're talking like 200 acres. And there's people camping all over the place. Thousands of people camping all over the place. But. So you go down near this barn, there's this big field. It's been cleared out. There's camping all up in the. There's hills and mountains. There's camping all up in the it. And you can. The drum circle calls. Calls everybody to the campfire. The drum circle. The music's off. The bars are. Yeah, the bars are always open. But, you know, it's if. If a bartender stayed up, like, it's all volunteer. So I've. I volunteered a lot at the bar because then I could just drink for free. But the. The drum circle is calling me. So I think I was actually bartending when the drum circle started. I just kind of floated off to the drum circle. Sorry. See you in the morning. And every. There's girls dancing around the fire. Everyone's drumming. I'm drumming. And then I start dancing because now I'm incredibly intoxicated. And there is this beautiful woman who I've just been watching dance for like 30, 45 minutes. Beautiful. I know her name. I'm friends with her on Facebook. She's like mesmerizing. Right? Or was that night. Anyway, and so she's running around, she's got this little necklace with a. I don't even know how to explain it. It's like a little jar, like a little tiny little mason jar, like a mini mason jar. And it's got liquid in it. And she's running around and she's dancing. And then I start dancing. And then, you know, we're kind of in Each other's space, you know, dancing the ethereal dance. Like, ooh. Like moving hands at each other. It's the drum drug circle dance. That's right. And she opens up her little mason jar and she takes a switch and she goes, want some? And I was like, yeah. I thought it was liquor. I thought it was moonshine. But 30 minutes, 40 minutes later, I realized it was not moonshine. But I don't know what it was. But I ended up being the last person up at the party in the woods. The last person up. The only other people that were up were the people that were, like, on duty for security. So at 4 or 5 in the.

[Guest]

Morning, that were waking up.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

People. Yeah, people that were waking. I'm sure there were people up, but they were in their camps. In their campsite. I couldn't be sure I was the exact last person up. But there were security, you know, like. But they're not really security guards or, like, guys with long hair that, you know, are sober, that are volunteered to stand watch for who? I don't know for what. I'm not sure. And the people at the medical tent too. There were some people. So everyone eventually falls off, and I'm the last guy standing and I'm dancing to myself. And I'm now realizing I had not been given moonshine. And so I'm walking, walking around. This is like hundreds of acres. I'm walking around, trying to find people that are awake that I can talk to. So I'm talking to the security guards for, you know, talking their air off until they eventually just stop talking to, like, you know, stop talking to me so that I can go. Then I go to the medical tent. Do you need medical help? No. But did you see the moon tonight? How about that drum circle? It's so good, you know. Peace be with you. You know, it is what it is. I love all creatures. Those trees are beautiful. All with one, you know. Meanwhile, they're like, fuck you, dude. Fuck you. I'm on medical duty here. I don't have time to be drugging and drinking. Fuck you. And so I just walked myself into a stupor until I eventually fell asleep at, like, 8 in the morning. And I woke up in the most uncomfortable state I had ever been in. Hot, sweaty, still hot.

[Guest]

Morning sun.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Oh, it's just like, baking me in that tent. And I was with somebody too, and she was mad at me because whatever. And, like, so we're baking in this tent, sweating on each other. It's just like, the whole situation is gross. I will Never camp again in a festival. Never. I'm going to camp only if Armageddon comes and I need to stay outside my own backyard. Or I can still have the bathroom inside. If the plumbing stops, I'll camp outside. Okay, that's it. It's the only reason I'm going to do that. All right, why don't we do this? Chrissy, let's take a break and we'll talk more about sweaty, sweaty trailer. Sweaty, sweaty trailer. I had the option to go in the sweaty, sweaty trailer, but yeah, I wasn't convinced the air conditioning was working. I think that was just a they were trying to get me in there for something, as they were. Yes, they were. All right, we'll be back.

[Rachel]

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

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[Rachel]

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

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[Guest]

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Can we talk just for a minute? And I know this is the last person you want to hear any opinions about this from, but I gotta throw this out there. Can we talk about Blue Origin for a second? The new Shepherd. Yeah, Fucking PR stunt that happened a couple days ago with Katy Perry, Oprah's best friend, Gayle King Sanchez. What is her name? Sanchez. Lauren Sanchez.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

And then some other, like, people who actually are doing stuff, doing stuff, have some reason to actually want to go to space. So in case you have your head directly up your ass. Five, six women.

[Guest]

Yeah, I mean, it was the all female crew.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

All female. That dick penis ride up to. Not even space, but we're going to call it space because why not the Carmen line, what they call it? So that we can float around for two and a half minutes, yell and scream into the microphone and then come back down to earth and yell and scream some more and then make a big dramatic scene.

[Guest]

Kiss the ground.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Kiss the ground. Make a big dramatic PR scene. We'll have the Kardashians there doing live commentary and Oprah crying and, you know, Jeff Bezos meeting you at the door because God forbid, falling on his Face. It's Jeff true. He.

[Guest]

Face planted.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

He's a. He's a boner. There are so many things on this earth right now, in this country, right now, in this world right now to be concerned about, to give attention to, to give press to. I am not arguing that the all female crew is not an admirable, admirable thing to give some props to. But this is a huge PR stunt, no doubt about, is absolutely almost meaningless in a lot of ways because they are doing nothing. They are advancing nothing about space or space travel. They have done this a number of times. You can pay a couple million dollars and do it yourself. You can actually go and book a reservation on Blue Origin's website to get up there yourself if you have that kind of money. And if, I guess if Jeff Bezos chooses you, I don't know how that whole process works.

[Guest]

You could go to the festival, or you could go to.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

You could go to the Fire Festival, or you could go to the top of the Carmen line, which is basically just a little higher than an airplane can go. Let's be real about this. It's not space. It's not actual space. It's high enough to see the curvature of the Earth. It's high enough to be a little weightless because of the way that the. Where you are, the gravity is no longer holding you down as much. But you haven't even left the atmosphere of the Earth, and you're doing no experimentation whatsoever. You are advancing no cause whatsoever. You are just taking a really expensive ride into space and sucking up people's attention for, in my opinion, not the best of reasons. I do not argue the female aspect of this is not my place to say. It's not for me to say whether or not that's good, bad, or indifferent. But what it clearly is is a PR stunt of epic proportions and one that failed miserably to do anything for anything. I mean, to do anything for anything. Yeah, it's just dumb. It's just dumb. And I really wish that Jeff Bezos, Lauren Sanchez, Gayle King, Katy Perry, those people specifically, would put their time and attention and PR abilities and money into. Do a lot better things. Like, let's say, run down to El Salvador and save that father who's been. Who will now spend the rest of his life rotting in an El Salvadorian prison for no good reason. Because people just want to dig their heels in and decide they're not wrong for any reason whatsoever. And without getting into all the politics of that, I think we can all agree that's a really shitty situation that if you put yourself in those shitty Jews. What a fucking nightmare. Or the mother or the children of those people. Why doesn't Lauren Sanchez and Jeff Bezos take their dick shaped rocket and fly down to El Salvador and raise some time and attention and money to getting that guy out of prison? I'm not arguing the criminals and the people who are here are legally. That's not, I'm not getting into that argument here. Check me out, I'm not even mad am I getting in that argument here. But that dude is there clearly in the wrong and it's even been admitted and they won't let him out.

[Guest]

It's so crazy, I don't even know what's happening. I mean, by the time this airs, something might have changed.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Might.

[Guest]

As of today, the Supreme Court said return him.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Return him. And they're saying no. So the law means nothing. The justice system means nothing. It's being used to penalize people. People to is being used to disappear people just like they did in Ireland in the 80s, 70s and 80s. Disappear people. And if we get a few wrong, oh well, oh well. Those people have children and wives. They're real human beings with actual feelings. You admitted you're wrong. Now bring them home.

[Guest]

Yeah. What's the reason that they're saying they're not?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

They say that he had speeding tickets. They say that he is part of the MS.13 gang. When a judge, multiple judges already found that he does not and he has reason to fear. Fear the MS.13 gang. This is just a clear clusterfuck. It's a clear mistake. And there are so many things wrong with this, it's not even funny. But we're all gonna spend the next hour watching a meaningless really high flight into not even space. Just doesn't make any sense to me. I'm sorry. It just falls flat. I think it's tone deaf in so many ways. And I've really, really wish that those people specifically with so much power, money, you know, resources available to them, would do something good with that, that time, energy and effort. Something good, just like a little bit. Because this was not that. And I might be wrong. You may find it, you may find a whole slew of reasons why this was wonderful for humanity. But please tell them to, please tell them to me. Please tell them to me. I don't get it. I'm sorry, Chrissy. I'm sorry. I wanted to like this. I wanted to be like this is good. Good for these girls. Like, you know, good for humanity, good for all this other stuff. But then I watched it, and it's just like a clear. I watched it, I read about it. I listened to Katy Perry drone on and on about it. It's Katy Perry just droned on and on.

[Guest]

I mean, a lot of people were definitely questioning the choice there.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. And do we have to do so much screen? Like, first of all, they didn't even show the inside of the capsule. Like, if you're gonna televise this as, like, the world's biggest PR stunt. Yeah.

[Guest]

@ least show the inside for humanity.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

And for the advancement of, you know, female causes. At least show the ladies in space, or what you're calling space. Don't leave us hanging. All I saw was a rocket go really, really, really far away and then come really, really, really back down to Earth. That was so stupid. Why didn't. I mean, if Musk can get it right, Bezos, I bet you have enough money, time, energy and effort to get it right yourself. But here we are just stuck with a picture of a rocket that's like the size of one pixel, and then it comes back down and all you can hear is these girls screaming their heads off. It's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Guest]

I didn't listen to it.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Didn't they prepare themselves? Is there someone on the ground who's like, listen, it's going to go really fast. You're going to feel some GS, you're going to be weightless, and you're going to come down real fast. Okay? Yeah. Be prepared.

[Guest]

The whole thing was 10 minutes. I think.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

10 and a half minutes. 10 and a half minutes. I've had sex that's lasted longer than that. That's saying something that's on a good night. But ten and a half minutes is. No, no. Neil Armstrong went to the moon. It took him, like, 11 days. Those people just came back from nine months in space space. Nine fucking months. And they only expected to be there for two weeks. Those two. Those two are fucking real astronauts. Those two did something. They continued to work while they were up there.

[Guest]

They said, well, expensive ride.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, shitty situation. Let's get to work and advance the human race. Like, let's figure some shit out while we're up here. Those people just yelling and screaming into a microphone and a camera that doesn't even work. It's crazy. That's crazy. And while we're at it, can we change the shape of the rocket ship? It does look like a penis.

[Guest]

Oh, 100%.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

And it's small. It's small. Isn't it. Isn't it small? It's like a small penis. It's like a micro penis. I mean, if you're gonna take a penis to space, make it a big penis. Like, get it thick and girthy. Put some. Put some testicles on it.

[Guest]

Well, doesn't it look like it has them Is it goes up, but then those gum off or something?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, it's got. It's just one little rocket. It's a rocket with a penis head shape on top of it. And then the shaft falls off and the head rides up in space. I mean, put some potatoes on that thing. Put some testicles. You know those testicles that hang off the back of people's trucks in Florabama, in Orange Beach. Yeah. Okay. All right. Put some of those, but make them really big and just have them right up there. With Katy Perry, it would be perfect. Her big line was where I'm putting the ass back in astronaut.

[Guest]

I know.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Oh, thank God you're there. Thank God you're there. A shining example for all the young ladies who want to be astronauts. Putting the ass back in astronaut. Do you think she came up with that on her own, or does it take a whole PR team to do that? I mean, come on, Katy. There was a time when I liked Katy Perry. There was a time when I was like Katy Perry. She's funny and she's interesting and she's.

[Guest]

You know, she kisses girls and likes it.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, she kisses girls and she likes it. She's a little wild. Then she came out with that dumb video where her boobs were sparking and shooting. It's like, ah, come on, what are we doing here? And now she put the ass back in astronaut. Katie, you're welcome back. You're welcome on the show now, anytime. Although I'm sure you're a hard get now that you're an astronaut. You're welcome on the show anytime to explain yourself. But what exactly did this do for anybody? I'm just wondering. And Gayle King. I ain't got nothing against Gayle King. I ain't got a goddamn thing against Gayle King. Seems like a perfectly lovely human being. She's famous because her best friend is famous, just like me. Chrissy. I'm famous because you're famous.

[Guest]

It's the same.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I pulled you right up. You pulled me right up by the bootstraps. Look at that. But that Oprah there, crying like a mishmash. It's like, oh, my God. I mean, I could understand. Your best friend's going into space.

[Guest]

It's a big deal. But like you're saying, what did it really accomplish in the scope of what's happening right now in the world? Which. There's a lot, a lot, a lot that needs to be addressed. There's a lot of programs that are being cut. There's a lot of stuff that's, that's happening. And I do feel like that money could have gone towards something else.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Anything else. Yeah, the commercial break. I mean, come on, Jeff, pay us to do some episodes for you. I just, I know, I have a feeling that there are some people who are really powerful with a lot of money that have just gone full off the deep end, megalomaniac, like, you know, evil character in a movie kind of thing. And we all know who those are. Dr.

[Guest]

Evil.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Dr. Evil. We can, we can point them out clearly. And I think on. No matter how you feel about politics, six, you're probably in agreement at some level that we, we agree on this. But I think there are some who may have a softer heart, who may be a little bit more level headed, who have capitulated because they're scared or because they don't want to be on the wrong side of whatever. Yes, I'd like to think, I'd like to think, though I don't know this to be true, I'd like to think, think that Jeff Bezos might be one of those people, right? And he built the largest company in the world, one of the largest retail company. The largest retail company in the world that changed all of our lives. And he did it by selling used books. That's how he started, by selling used books. He had a vision and he took it to the nth degree. And now he's putting people in low atmosphere orbit. I don't know what you call it, low atmosphere atmosphere orbit. But I believe that he could probably do some good with all of that power, that money.

[Guest]

I think so too.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

That big yacht he's got, can he take that big yacht down somewhere and stage a rescue? I imagine those people, they gotta have like paramilitary people around them, right? They gotta have like connections to Paramilit. Like, you're not that rich, everybody. And you haven't talked to a few paramilitary people about what would happen if this happens or that happens. And you know, I'm gonna get on my yacht, you're gonna protect me and all that stuff. Use those people. Like get down there and use those people. People. And that El Salvadorian president, what is, who is he? What? That beard looks completely fake, by the way. I don't know who's doing his beard, but that beard looks like it was taped on. I'm sorry. He looks like a character in a Naked Gun movie. He really does. That's Sal Salvadorian Butele or whatever his name is. He looks weird to me. He looks too young. Young to be having a fake beard on, but he does. I don't know.

[Guest]

Anyway, he's kissing some major ass.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

He is kissing some major ass. Listen. But one can hardly blame El Salvador for wanting to get in bed with the most absolutely powerful government in the world, because they desperately need help to pull themselves out of an insane kind of desperation and poverty. Poverty. And the El Salvadorian people are proud. They're beautiful. They're lovely. And they have, you know, elected an idiot, no doubt, but elected in quotations. Yeah, in quotations. That's right. They just re elected, you know, by whatever 107% is. 107% even exist. I mean, come on. But they are a proud people, and, you know, one can hardly fault them for wanting to figure out a way out of the current situation, which has largely been created by countries like the United States. But, I mean, can we all stand on principle? I know it's so 2007 to talk about being, you know, being principled, but can we please just be principled for one minute? Can we follow the rule of law a little bit? Can we agree that when something is wrong, we should try our best to make it right? And. And can we agree when another human being is in such a shitty situation that we can come together and figure out how to fix it? That doesn't make you weak. It doesn't make you worse. It doesn't make you. It doesn't change your political beliefs. Doesn't do any of that. It just says that when we do something wrong, we're going to figure out how to make it right? That goes for both sides of the aisle.

[Guest]

Yes.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

And if you ain't got a clue yet, check out Bernie Sanders talking to like 57,000 people in San Francisco or a hundred thousand people in Coachella. Something's happening.

[Guest]

And he had like 20,000 show up, I think, in Idaho.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Utah, yeah. Utah and Idaho.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Something's going on. I like. I don't know. The heartbeat seems to be beating in a little bit of a different direction right now. And that, you know, I might be living in a. In a bubble, but I don't think I am. I watch all the different news channels. I check it all out, and something's going on. So maybe this Kid down in El Salvador. Salvador and his family have a chance.

[Guest]

Maybe.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Let's see. I feel so bad for this because I can.

[Guest]

Family.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I see how easily this could be any of us. Any of us. They're talking about deporting citizens who may or may not be on the right side of whatever opinion happens to be in vogue right now. And that is fucking insanity. It's insanity. And if you don't think so, turn the commercial break off. That's all I gotta say. Don't give a. I don't need your dollars. All right, let's end on that note. And on that note, Brian's fired up. I'm red and ready. You're ready for your vacation. I came. Yeah, I was thinking about it a lot on vacation.

[Guest]

How can you not?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, I was looking at my children going, what happens if I was a hundred thousand miles away with no way to communicate, no hope, nothing that not even the highest court in the land couldn't figure it out if they couldn't figure it out. And good for the highest court in the land for unanimously saying, this is wrong. Dude, gotta fix it. But, you know, Bukaki or whatever his name is and whatever the other guy's name is. Miller. Stephen Miller. They've decided. Nope, can't do it. Sorry.

[Guest]

Yeah, it's scary.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, it's scary. All right, well, I'm sure I'll get a lot of opinions about this, so I'm going to turn my phone off now.

[Guest]

You're going to go on another vacation?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I'm going to go on another vacation. See you down in Florida, Bama, kids. See you down in Florida, Bama. Orange beach visit. It's not a bad place. Not even mad. I'll be there on.

[Guest]

Got the T shirt.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

I did. I got a T shirt. Astrid said, you got to get a T shirt. And I'm like, I don't need to spend the money. But then I found this one. I liked it a lot. Yeah, they had the really expensive souvenir store and then they had like the surf shop, and I went to the surf shop.

[Guest]

Of course.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, I'm Gonna buy a $50 T shirt for Orange Beach. Are you crazy?

[Guest]

Like a golf shirt?

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, I know. There's a lot more people in the cheap souvenir store than there were in the expensive one. Just saying, you know, bring those prices down a little bit. All right, I'll be on. Not even mad. You can find the gist or not even mad. Google it. Apple. I'll put a link in the show. Notes tomorrow. That's Thursday of this week. As you're listening to this. That's what the. Is that the 16th?

[Guest]

Today's the 15th.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

15Th, 16th, 17th. It's the 17th. On the 17th. I'll be on not even Mad with Mike Pesca. Tune in. I'd appreciate it. He'd appreciate it. We'd all appreciate it. You can listen to me opine some more on things we never talk about here on the commercial break for good reason. And May 31, 12 hours of TCB. Hey now. Hey now. In coordination with our friends at Odyssey, our good friends at Odyssey, announcement to make about that soon CTB and Covert Creative. Okay, tcbpodcast.com get your free sticker on the contact us button at the commercial break on Instagram and YouTube.com the commercial break for all the episodes on video the same day they air here on audio. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for right now. But I'll tell you that I love you.

[Guest]

I love you.

[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Best to you and best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I do say, we will say and we must say goodbye.

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[Chris Joy Hoadley]

Yeah boy.