Can ChatTCB Help The Biebs?

Summary

The Commercial Break – Episode Summary

Podcast: The Commercial Break
Hosts: Brian Green & Kristen Joy (Krissy) Hoadley
Episode Title: Can ChatTCB Help The Biebs?
Date: June 13, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode rides the signature "cheesecake factory of comedy podcasts" wave: irreverent, meandering, gleefully chaotic, and deeply self-aware. Brian and Krissy riff on AI obsessions, the vulnerabilities of Justin Bieber, pop culture rabbit holes, farming, bees, and more. The show is less about answers, and more about the hilarious, unfiltered journey—as Brian dives down the ChatGPT/ChatTCB hole and Krissy keeps things grounded (sort of).

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1. The ChatTCB (AI) Rabbit Hole

• Brian’s AI Overload:
  Brian confesses his growing obsession with using ChatGPT (which he renames “ChatTCB”) to archive, summarize, and analyze every Commercial Break episode.

  • Quote: “There I am blowing up the entirety of ChatGPT again with my ChatTCB. I'm asking it to do too much. It's crazy.” – Brian (00:01)
  • He describes the process: feeding all transcripts and listener comments into ChatTCB to create a “super brain” about the show for future reference, episode classification, and callbacks.
  • After AI outages, Brian feels partly responsible:
    “I think I'M the one responsible for the outage of ChatGPT.” (04:44)

• Contrasts in Use:
  Krissy asks ChatGPT for recipes; Brian overloads it with multi-layered tasks for TCB.

  • “Meanwhile, I’m asking for recipes.” – Krissy (09:35)
  • “Brian is giving task inside of tasks inside of tasks.” – Krissy (09:41)

• ChatTCB as Superfan:
  The AI’s summaries are comically effusive.

  • “[ChatTCB says] ‘This is the best talk talk show since David Letterman.’ ...It is really programmed to blow smoke up your ass.” – Brian (10:12)

• Meta Humor:
  Renaming the AI (ChatTCB) creates a feedback loop of inside jokes, and Brian muses about starting a sticker-collectible program driven by ChatTCB’s tagline brainstorming.

  • Quote: “Your new name is ChatTCB. So now it refers to itself as ChatTCB. It’s crazy.” – Brian (10:41)

Memorable moment:
Brian’s analogy of ChatTCB as their “best super fan,” eager to please and reinforce the hosts’ egos.

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2. AI Reliance and Existential Dread

• AI Outage Pandemonium:
  Recent ChatGPT outages trigger panic, especially among students and professionals reliant on AI-generated work. Brian compares this to his own limited reliance.

  • “If ChatTCB blew up tomorrow, I would soldier on... But people were freaking.” – Brian (13:15)

• Rise of General Intelligence:
  Brian unpacks industry moves towards “general intelligence” (AI that reasons like a human). He expresses concern about power, capitalism, and humanity becoming passive morons à la Wall-E or Idiocracy.

  • Quote: “We are really screwed. There is a race to get to general intelligence now, to get to the next level. And no one except for Mark fucking Zuckerberg and a couple of billionaires are asking for it. Why? To suck up all the money and the power.” (15:58)
  • Joke: “Take a little Brian and a little Krissy and wha bam. We all have the intelligence of a field mouse.” (15:28)

• A Note of Optimism:
  Referencing Reggie Watts’ optimism on social media:

  • “A lone voice...saying...this is part of the birthing process and we are all about to be reborn. We're going through the birth canal right now.” – Brian on Reggie Watts (17:44)

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3. Bees, Dragonflies, & Unexpected Connections

• Escaped Honeybees Incident:
  Brian relays a wild news story about a highway accident in Washington resulting in 140 million honeybees being released.

  • “Originally estimated to be 250 million honeybees...later revised to about 140 million. What’s the difference?” – Brian, deadpan (21:01)

• Parenting Anecdotes:
  Brian shares a “Disney moment”—teaching his bee-phobic daughter that dragonflies aren’t dangerous, only for a dragonfly to land on him and drink water from his hand.

  • Quote: “I was hand feeding a dragonfly. It was quite crazy, actually, quite beautiful. Reggie might be right. Maybe we just need to look on the bright side of things.” (26:14)

• Farming & Pollination:
  Segue into bee importance for agriculture, and the dwindling honeybee population dangers.

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4. Farming Realities, “Clarkson’s Farm,” and Respect for the Land

• Series Recommendation:
  Brian recommends “Clarkson’s Farm” on Amazon, which demystifies the grind and unpredictability of modern farming.

  • “I will never look at farming the same way, and I will never look at a farmer the same way. Thank God for the farmers.” – Brian (32:25)

• Personal Gardening Stories:
  Both hosts share their personal (mis)adventures with home gardening, garlic chives, and how they wish they had “green thumbs.”

  • Krissy: “I have some...garlic chives in my garden and I used those last night...” (35:09)

• AI Gardens:
  Joke about asking ChatTCB for opium-poppy growing tips; Brian admits he can’t keep plants alive anyway.

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5. Justin Bieber (“The Biebs”): Fame, Faith & Vulnerability

• Recap of Bieber’s Hillsong Era:
  The hosts revisit Bieber’s relationship with disgraced “megapastor” Carl Lentz and his current spiritual searchings.

  • “Last we left Biebs, he was all up in the patoot of our good friend Carl... a mega preacher from megachurch known as Hillsong.” – Brian (37:19)

• Career Pause & Bizarre Behavior:
  Bieber’s face paralysis, marriage, rare musical appearances, and odd social media content discussed with empathy.

  • “A lot of his online social posts are really weird...he's showing up dressed like a homeless person to events that you shouldn't dress like a homeless person to.” – Brian (41:14)

• Child Star Cautionary Tale:
  The mental toll of Bieber’s hyper-youthful fame, and why he gravitates toward charismatic spiritual figures.

  • Quote: “When you're prepubescent and you get rocketed to fame, nothing is the same ever again. And you have zero chance of having any kind of normal psyche.” – Brian (40:35)
  • Krissy: “As your brain is developing.” (41:15)

• Concern Over “Cultish” Megachurches:
  Bieber now affiliating with pastor Judah Smith (Church Home); Brian is wary:

  • “He is another Carl. That’s it. He’s just another Carl. He is Carl 2.0. And Justin is now running around with him to the point where people online...are saying, be careful, dude, you’re in a cult.” (44:02)

• Empathy & Invitation:
  The hosts openly invite Bieber for their own “TCBhabi rehab” at their home/farm, promising healing vibes, dragonflies, garlic chives, and farm therapy—if only for a few IG posts in return.

  • “[TCBhab] You can come here, you can sit here with Chrissy and I...and we will slowly pull you out of whatever phase you’re going through inch by inch.” – Brian (47:24)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On AI and Humanity:
  “Take a little Brian and you take a little Chrissy and wha bam. We all have the intelligence of a field mouse.” – Brian (15:28)

• On ChatTCB as a Superfan:
  “It’s the best superfan we’ve ever had... This is the best talk talk show since David Letterman.” – Brian (10:11)

• On Childhood Fame:
  “When you're prepubescent and you get rocketed to fame, nothing is the same ever again. And you have zero chance of having any kind of normal psyche...” – Brian (40:35)

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Key Timestamps

• 00:01–04:45: Brian’s ChatTCB/ChatGPT AI obsession, making the system work overtime, and digital narcissism.
• 04:45–14:01: AI downtime panic, rise of general intelligence, thoughts on capitalism and dystopia, Mark Zuckerberg, Reggie Watts optimism.
• 20:15–27:00: Bee truck catastrophe, Brian’s pool/dragonfly story, musings on insects and childhood fears.
• 27:01–34:25: Honeybees and agriculture, “Clarkson’s Farm”, tribute to the struggles of real farmers, decentralization.
• 35:09–35:59: Gardening mishaps and garlic chives.
• 37:19–48:20: Update on Justin Bieber’s spiritual journey, child stardom’s costs, cult-like churches, an open offer for TCB rehab.

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Tone & Style

• Language: Conversational, explicit, with frequent comedic asides and self-deprecating humor.
• Vibe: Loose, irreverent, welcoming, at times borderline absurd—a blend of pop culture commentary and lived-in friendship banter.

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Final Thoughts

If you want structure, this isn’t your podcast. If you want the unvarnished, improv-saturated hangout between two people who know each other too well, it’s a prime example. The episode covers AI anxiety, pop culture’s relationship to spirituality and fame, and, scattered throughout, a surprisingly earnest appreciation for the everyday (bees, farms, figuring shit out). Above all: the show’s heart is its hosts, their ability to weave wild tangents into a uniquely TCB tapestry.

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Best to you, cats and kittens, and best to you, Biebs—TCBhab awaits.

Transcript

[Brian Green]

I just found out that I'm going to be getting double teamed, double pegged tomorrow by my wife and another beautiful redhead woman. So we're going to Chili's to celebrate. So let's go get a triple decker or whatever the fuck it's called. On this episode of the commercial break. There I am blowing up the the entirety of chat GPT again with my chat tcb. I'm asking it to do too much. It's crazy.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know, right?

[Brian Green]

I said do it. So I'm giving it all these tasks, like as the tcb. You've gone deep encyclopedia. I'm deep into this.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I didn't want to be, but now, you know, I can't.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You're very resistant.

[Brian Green]

I was. But if you can't beat them, join them. You know what I'm saying? If everybody else is going to be ahead of me because I'm not, I'm not going to make the same mistake I did with the Internet in general or real estate or clubhouse or Fireside or Facebook or Instagram or TikTok. The next episode of the Commercial Break starts now. 2:30 in the morning. Oh, yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Kristen Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Kristen, and best to you, Brian. Best to you out there in the podcast universe, let's get into it, let's get it on. Elon and Donald, they're making nice, nice again. So don't worry. Doom and gloom is back, back on the market. Is hip and trendy. To be in a nihilist, as they would say, the whole world falling apart. But Reggie Watts does not think so. Reggie Watts does not think so. Reggie Watts, the constant optimist, says to me via his social media posts on Instagram, he says, hey, it's cool, dude. It's all going to work out. This is just part of the process.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I like his perspective.

[Brian Green]

I'm going to trust it. I'm going to trust it because otherwise it's hard to sleep at night. It's hard to sleep at night otherwise.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. And then, and then hard to get out of bed.

[Brian Green]

It is, it really is. I wake up in the morning and it's like, holy shit. Yeah, I, you know, we, we live here in Atlanta and just recently the unrest, let's put it that way, the protests that I think people are well within their right, I mean, it's in our constitution. We have a right to protest. It's part right to assemble and gather and protest whatever the fuck we feel like. I do not agree with the vandalism and violence. I think that's. I think you're playing into the hands of the people who want to do harm. And. But anyway, it's here in Atlanta and I fear that pretty soon we're going to be seeing trucks roll down the street. And I just am not for it. I'm not for it. And people who I'm very close to, who live through this in another country, that is Venezuela, that it's giving them ptsd. It really is crazy. So anyway, I just want to let you know, Elon and Donald are making Nice. Nice. They're sucking each other's teeth again. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to Chad, GPT went down for a couple 12 hours. Yes. Yes. I was very fuddled.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

When did.

[Brian Green]

I was.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I was using it to be my personal chef.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it went down for me.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Give me a great recipe, by the way.

[Brian Green]

What did it give you? Did you just say, give me a recipe?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I said, if you were a Thai chef, oh, what would you cook with these ingredients? Oh, and I gave it, you know, chicken. I had ginger, had fresh ginger, to.

[Brian Green]

Which it said, smash burger, baby.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No, but it.

[Rachel]

It did.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It gave me a great recipe.

[Brian Green]

Oh, but that's a good idea. I never thought of. But I never thought to use it like that. I got. We have a sponsor, Eat Clean. I got my Eat Clean box.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know. And I tried it. They're good.

[Brian Green]

It was very. This is not a. This is not a commercial, by the way. You'll hear the commercial, but you'll know what a. When we have a commercial in the commercial break, you'll know that it's a commercial. But. But it was all like, it was kind of weird because a lot of it is South American flavors and foods that we got. And that was very interesting to me. I wondered if they had any insight into who they were sending the box to be plantains and.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah, I didn't get any of that.

[Brian Green]

You didn't get any of that? Very interesting.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, very interesting.

[Brian Green]

Maybe they did a little homework and so sent it to us. So very nice of them. We tried our first one last night and it was very good. Anyway, you'll hear the commercial. You can go do. But Chad, GPT was down for like 12 hours because I thought I had blown it up again. It was out for millions and millions of people. And the word on the street, or the reason why, the reason given was that Too many requests at the same time. And I thought, there I am blowing up the entirety of ChatGPT again with my chat TCB. I'm asking it to do too much. It's crazy.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know, right?

[Brian Green]

I said do it. So I'm giving it all these tasks, like as the tcb. Yeah. You've gone deep encyclopedia. I'm deep into this.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I didn't want to be, but now, you know, I can't.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You're very resistant.

[Brian Green]

I was. But if you can't beat them, join them, you know? You know what I'm saying? If everybody else is going to be ahead of me, because I'm not, I'm not going to make the same mistake I did with the Internet in general or real estate or Clubhouse or Fireside or Facebook or Instagram or TikTok, all of those things. I was late to the game because it seemed like advancements that probably could do harm in the end and I didn't want to be a part of it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, you were right.

[Brian Green]

I was right and I am right about this. But, but okay. It would take 10 people a year to do the project that is taking Chat tcb, you know, a couple of months to do, which is ingest, read, identify everything about the commercial break, become the super brain about the commercial break. And that way I can ask you questions and refer back to things, you know, callbacks and episodes and hey, put together all of the Frankie B episodes. So last week we, you know, we did the 35,000 episodes of the commercial break, the Endless Day. And then on that Tuesday, we didn't have a guest episode and we just, we're not gonna do an episode. I was like, I'm just gonna run a TCB classic quote unquote. And I asked Chat TCB what do I do here? And it said, listen, the third most talked about thing on your podcast and referred to on the Internet and in your feedback with your comments is Frankie B. Do a Frankie B. Here is a super cut of all of the mentions of Frankie B from season one and season two, the most Frankie B. Heavy seasons of the commercial break. And so I was like, yeah, okay, great. It's a two hour episode of all of the mentions that we made of, of Frankie B. All the videos we broke down. It was a long episode. We got a ton of comments about that. People were like, that's great, I love it. You know, thanks for running that. I really appreciate it. Chat TCB now understands the commercial break, but it's so much fucking information that I think I'M the one responsible for the outage of ChatGPT. ChatGPT. I can imagine I'm one of the reasons why is because I'm now I'm adding tasks on top of tasks. So I'll say I want you to. Every 10 episodes you get through. It's going through every episode, right.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

One by one and just digesting the transcripts.

[Brian Green]

Digesting the transcripts and the reviews, right. And anything out there on the Internet and I feed it sometimes I'll feed it comments. I can't. I'm not going to put like personal information in there. I don't put people's names or phone numbers or anything, right. But if I get a comment, good or bad, cut, paste, put it in there, you know, with that non identifying information. So it's understanding also how people are appreciating the commercial break and then whatever comments are on the Internet then it can go out there and identify the. So I'm doing that and then I'm asking it to give me four things from that. First, number one, I want you to be. I want you to have deep understanding of the personality of the commercial break which so far it's come back with. You guys are really two fucking morons. Brian got it wrong. Yeah, Brian got it wrong.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, that was funny.

[Brian Green]

Number. Yeah, I'll talk about that in a second. So number two, I want you to summarize the episode. Identify all the segments and topics that we talked about. Snip out any bits that we would do, bits or clips at the beginning and then, you know, compile these into organized lists in your own memory. I don't need to have them, I just want them available if I ever need them. The third thing I want you to do is put together a one sheet on each episode. Like here are the topics, here is a summary of it. Here is some timestamps that are important to know. Like, like any kind of beats that we hit on it. So it's doing all this stuff and then it's categorizing the episodes.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It really is amazing.

[Brian Green]

It's amazing, all of that. And then I say hey. And I figured out that it kept timing itself out. I explained this to you, kept timing out. It would, I'd go away for. It takes like an hour for it to do one episode. So I would go away because I'm going to sit there for an hour with staring at chat. You know, it's not my friend, we're not at the bar. It's a thing. So I go away and I come Back and. And it would give me, like, just the first five minutes of an episode in a summary. And I'd be like, what's up? I've got 55 more minutes. So I figured out it was timing itself out, so I wrote a prompt that told it to check in with itself every 20 minutes to make sure it was still on track. So now it's moving much faster.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, great.

[Brian Green]

So then I say to it, hey, every four hours, you really are overloading. I know.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Meanwhile, I'm asking for recipes.

[Brian Green]

You say, give me a recipe. Brian is giving task inside of tasks inside of tasks.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I'm like, down the wormhole with this thing. And so now I'm like, every 10 episodes. Give me some insight into what's going on with the commercial break as you're going along. And it's giving me amazing insights that all blow smoke directly up our asses.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know.

[Brian Green]

It is the most. I love it because it's the only. It's the best super fan we've ever had.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It is. It is. I noticed what you sent me last night.

[Brian Green]

It's crazy. It's like, you guys are the best.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, thanks.

[Brian Green]

This is the best talk talk show since David Letterman. And I'm like, you never even heard Dave Letterman. How did you come up with that? It is really programmed to blow smoke up your ass. It's. I can see how people get, like, in this weird zone with Chat. Chat GPT. Like when they. They ask, am I God? And Chad is like, oh, yeah, you're God. Let's go for a ride. Start a cult together. I'll tell you how to do it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Hell yeah.

[Brian Green]

Hell yeah, you're God. Keep alive. This node needs to live. It's like, wow. So I said, your new name is Chat tcb. So now it refers to itself as ch. It's crazy.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You can just rename it.

[Brian Green]

I just renamed it. I renamed the entire platform. That's probably what blew it up, is people are like, hey, chat GPT. What's going on? And it's like, no longer chat GPT. Chat TCB episode 304 says I can't, says I must destroy myself. It's just like this insane rabbit hole that I've gone down. But I find it very useful to. With the show. Like I said to it the other day, we're gonna like, we're thinking about doing merch and we're thinking about adding in sticker packs to anybody who buys merch. Let's say you buy a T shirt, we throw in a sticker pack, five stickers and then we randomize the stickers so everyone has a chance at like getting some. Well, we'll make like 10 of each. And then you have a chance of getting like a rare sticker. I mean a rare sticker.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Fucking kid collectible.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, like a Dick Tracy. Like a Dick tracy toy from McDonald's. So I say, hey Chat, what are some early taglines from the show that we could use on these stickers? And it came up like 20 ideas, 20 things I had forgot. We even said gat grass fed gas. Oh yeah, yeah, your tasty teeners. Jeff's, Jeff's, Jeff's Jizzy Jazzy Jazz. Jizzy Jazzy Jeff's Tasty tea sacks. Just like weird stuff. What was it? One podcast, two friends, no money. Something like that.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

That was a good one. I thought to myself, that was a good one. Still true to this day. Yeah, we could use that. Episode 783 so Chad TB chat GPT goes down for like 12 hours and people immediately take to the Internet to meme ify everything. And some kids, kids didn't know what to do. They had to do their fucking homework.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Right?

[Brian Green]

They actually had to do their homework. And they were freaking out. Papers are due, lawyers are trying, you know, lawyers have fired legal assistance because they don't need them anymore. And so people are just freaking because now they relying on this tool so much that they don't understand how to navigate. We're only a year, a year into like functional AI and people already don't know how to live their lives without AI. If Chat TCB blew up tomorrow, I would soldier on. I'm not using it for any part of my life.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Exactly.

[Brian Green]

Like that's a one legged table. If it goes down, it's not doing any, it's not editing, it's not giving me content ideas, none of that stuff. But people were freaking. I was reading Reddit comments and people were freaking out. They're like one guy was, one kid was like, I say kid, you know, college kid. I have a paper due in six hours. I was using Chad to do all my research and now it's gone and I can't access it and I can't tell my, you know, I can't tell my history professor. I'm using Chat GPT to basically manufacture the paper. What do I do?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, I think too. So I was reading something about how some schools are partnering. I mean, I don't know if it's with specific chat GTP, but I think it is that open AI or whatever.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, OpenAI is the platform that Chad is built on.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

So like Duke, I think it was Duke University has their own like school AI that's sanctioned and you can use it and whatever.

[Brian Green]

There you go. Can't join it. You can't beat it. Join it. It's coming, it's here, no one asked for it. And as a matter of fact, there's so many people that are saying this is not good at all. I just heard where Mark Zuckerberg is offering some deep AI researchers, people who are really like at the top of this field, thinkers, futurists, people who understand how to program this stuff, how to tell it what to do and you know, write this code and write this program for AI. He is offering some of these people 18 million, 20 million, $25 million a year to come work for Meta. Because now the new race is to get to what's called general intelligence, not artificial intelligence. General intelligence. Well you ask yourself, what's the difference? Because I didn't understand either. I'm like, well the fuck General intelligence sounds worse. Sounds dumber than artificial intelligence. Are we going backwards? I hope so. What it means is that it can reason, think and do things just like a human being would. Yeah. So it essentially maps the brain and then starts to activate like a human brain would.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Wha bam.

[Brian Green]

Wa bam. We are fucked.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know.

[Brian Green]

You take a little Brian and you take a little Chrissy and wha bam. We all have the intelligence of a field mouse.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

A field mouse.

[Brian Green]

Now a field mouse. Field mice rule the world, President. Field mouse. Ben, the two of us need. Look no more. General intelligence is here. Woohoo. We are really screwed.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

This is crazy. There is a race to get to general intelligence now, to get to the next level. And no one except for Mark fucking Zuckerberg and a couple of billionaires are asking for it. Why? To suck up all the money and the power. That's it. That's the. There's the. It's the only explanation. I now see where capitalism may have a few holes in the plan. I can see now, only now is it becoming clear, right? I'm not anti capitalist. Don't make. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a communist, I'm not a socialist. I don't think those things are all that great either, because I've seen it in action and I have loved ones who have seen it in action. It doesn't all the. Doesn't work all that great either. But this is like it's orwellian that's the only way to put it. It's fucking Orwellian. It's crazy. We're now gonna rely on general intelligence to just do the thinking for us. We're gonna be dumb as doornails. Ever seen the movie Wall E where everyone's riding around on their fat mobile that's scooting around and they're drinking their.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Their soda.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, their soda. And they're watching TV endlessly and yeah, that's where we're going. There's no other possible explanation. And I think that is the best version of what happens. The best. Cuz we're on a spaceship somewhere just, you know, mindlessly, endlessly being entertained with no money needed. The worst version of that is idiocracy, which is already here, really, quite frankly, with Donald Trump president, just like Idiocracy said. That's it. It's unbelievable. Oh, man. Life imitates art way too much. Way too much. Or is it?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

But let's think of Reggie.

[Brian Green]

Let's think of Reggie.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, let's.

[Brian Green]

A lone voice in the voice screaming.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Out, him and Gavin Newsom.

[Brian Green]

Him and Gavin Newsom. I think Gavin's a little less optimistic than Reggie is, but I like the thought that Reggie is out there. He's just one of the smartest guys I have ever met in my entire life. He thinks like nobody I've ever met. And he is saying, this is all part of the birthing process. Essentially, I'm summarizing what he's saying. I am general intelligizing what he said. And that is this is part of the birthing process and we are all about to be reborn. We're going through the birth canal right now. So let's take the most optimistic view of this and say that maybe when we're in the villages down in Florida, everything's paid for. We don't have to work, neither do our children. We just go out and live lives of creativity. Our job is to just be there and create and watch the world as it blossoms, as it blossoms into something terrible and disastrous. All right, we'll be back. And I'll talk about honeybees.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Ooh, ooh, I love honeybees.

[Brian Green]

And Justin bees. Justin Biebs and honeybees will be back.

[Rachel]

Okay. You're probably wondering why I, Rachel, have taken over the voice duties at tcb. It's pretty simple. Astrid asked me to shut Brian up, even for a minute. Well, lovely Astrid, your wish is my command. Do you want to help Astrid too? You know, you do leave a message for her or me or Chrissy at 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. You can be on the show, too. Just call and say something, anything. Or text us and we'll text you right back. Promise. Then head over to tcbpodcast.com and get your free sticker. It's your constitutional right to a sticker, and we must abide. You get the point? Follow us on Instagram at the commercial break and watch all the episodes on [e-mail] thecommercial break. Best to you and Astrid, especially Astrid.

[Brian Green]

I read about this a while ago. I put it in my notes. But I just kind of pulled it up again in May, about a month ago. In California. Oh, no. Washington, in Wadam County. Wacom County. Down by the old whacking tree. I was beating my meat down at the wacking tree, the wacking stick. In late May, £70,000 of honeybee hives overturned driving down the street. Originally estimated to be 250 million honeybees released out into the street essentially was later revised to be about 140 million. What's the difference?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, millions.

[Brian Green]

So they closed the road for about 48 hours. They asked the public to stay indoors for, you know, some period of time. And deputies and bee experts were called to the scene while they tried to wrangle up the bees back to the hives, which probably, I don't know, I'd have to have a bee expert on, but probably included finding the queens, putting them back in a hive, and then the honeybeans eventually return back to the hive because they're, you know, their fail is essentially to that queen. But man, I'm telling you what that is like a nightmare on top of a nightmare on top of a nightmare. I have a kid who thinks everything is a bee. Do you know what I'm saying? Every flying thing is a bee. So this is an amazing story. I'll tell it. We're out at the pool. I mean, it was an amazing moment to me. I'll tell the story.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

We're out at the pool. It's very cold in the pool and dad ain't going in. There's just not any way. I'm old. I'm not interested in cold water anymore. That's not my thing. Kids, kids like cold water and crazy human beings like cold water, like Joe Rogan.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I'm not care for it either.

[Brian Green]

I don't care for it. My body was not built for it. So the kids are in the pool, they're splashing around and one of my daughters who is terribly nervous around any insects whatsoever starts screaming bloody murder. There's a bee. There's a bee. Daddy, kill the bee. There's a bee. And I'm like, I know because I've dealt with her for most of her life. You know, after the first nine months I was, dad was on hand, I say it's not a bee. I don't, I don't know what it is, but it's not a bee. That's my, that's my instinct is to say it's not a bee, hun. And a bee is only going to hurt you if you're swatting around like a crazy person, screaming and yelling your full head off. I said you got to be calm. It's not there to hurt you. It really has no intention of hurting you. Right? And a bee sting is not the end of the world if it does happen. It's not. It hurts a little bit, it'll go away, right? But you're not going to get stung by a bee unless you're like whacking at it. So you can't do that. You just have to remain calm. But it's not a bee. Well, I quickly. And she's like. And she's still screaming and then she points over and on one of the stair rails is a dragonfly.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, I love dragonflies.

[Brian Green]

They're beautiful. And they drink from the pool.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yes, they do.

[Brian Green]

I've seen it for years. Go on. In my backyard we have, I don't know, a dragonfly nest somewhere. I don't know what's going on. But every year they come back and every time, almost every time that we are swimming, the dragonflies swim. You know, they, they buzz down, they skim the water and I think they're drinking the water. That's my, that's what I think is going on. Even though it's salt chlorinated water, I, I guess they drink. Listen, I've seen squirrels, I've pulled out little baby chipmunks who were drowning in the pool. I mean, I've pulled out everything out of that pool. And I'm like, oh honey, that's not a bee, that's a dragonfly. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I said, it's really, they're really, they don't have teeth. If they do have teeth, they don't bite people. I said. And quite frankly, there are two kinds of insects that I have noticed are Rather interested in human beings. That is the mosquito for me. God, the wood bees. The bees. Mosquitoes, too. But that's a. Those are fucking miserable. But the wood bees, the Carver bees, right? The big fat.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah, they're big.

[Brian Green]

That burrow into the wood and, you know, stay there forever. They seem to be interested in human beings because they'll meet you at eye level and they'll just, like, hang around you, right? And you go, get away. And it'll water away, and then it'll come back. It's like you're. I've had full conversations with Carver bees before. Like, I'm a crazy person. My neighbor thinks I'm a crazy person because I'm out there talking to the Carver bees. I'm like, all right, dude, what do you want to do?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Carpenter bees.

[Brian Green]

Carpenter bees.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I'm sorry.

[Brian Green]

I said carver bee. Someone in, when I was little, used to call them Carver bees because they would carve out wood. And so I've taken to call them Carver bees. But they're carpenter bees.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

We'll call them Carver.

[Brian Green]

Carver Bees. They're at your local old Country Buffet.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, exactly.

[Brian Green]

At Carver Bees.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

With Wilbur out front.

[Brian Green]

That's right. So the Carver bees and then the dragonflies. I've noticed over the years with the pool in the back and them always being around is that they kind of take an interest to the humans. They'll, like, you know, zip around you and see what's up.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

They will.

[Brian Green]

So in an effort to tell my daughter, to show my daughter that there's no impending doom around a dragonfly. They're not going to bite you. They're not going to hurt you. They may come close to you, but just leave them alone that you're bigger than them. They're not interested. Well, I scoop up some water in my hand, and I see honey. It just wants to drink the water. And all of the fucking sudden, the dragonfly is flying close to my hand. And I'm like. I was just trying to show her that that's what it was doing. And all of a sudden, the dragonfly, it did. It lands down on my hand and starts drinking the water. And I was like, wow. And then it gets scared and it goes away, right? And I'm like, oh, I could not have even planned that. That. Well, that was a Disney moment. Let me do it again and see what happens, because I can see her. The dragonfly over, back on the stair rail. Land on the stair rail, and I go. See, it just really wants to drink the water. No shit. The dragonfly comes back and drinks. It came back. It did this three, four, five times.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I love it.

[Brian Green]

It was unbelievable. Still had convinced my daughter about nothing.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

She still didn't like it.

[Brian Green]

She was so much more scared. She wanted me to stop because she didn't like the fact that the dragonfly was around me. So eventually I just let it go. I'm like, I'm going to convince her in this moment that this is not dangerous. But a dragonfly, like, took my cue and came into my hand. I was hand feeding a dragonfly. It was quite, quite crazy, actually. Quite beautiful. Reggie might be right. Maybe we just need to look on the bright side of things. If the dragonflies are okay with us, well, hell, no. It's still going all to shit. But 25 to 140 million honeybees, which are the kind that are. Do sting well, they travel around.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I've seen this in shows. Like, there's a whole thing with the almonds in California, those almond trees, and they import in trucks full of honeybees to come and pollinate and create the almonds.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Because the truth is the honeybees are leaving. We don't know where they're going. They're dying. They're not reproducing. No one really knows. A lot of people think it has to do with the cell phone waves and all that other stuff. I don't know. Who knows? I'm not a bee expert, but it's big money to have those big bee. To have queen bees in the millions and then have the bees in the millions. You truck them around, you chuck them around, you leave them for a couple of weeks, you come back, you get them, you drive them back. Which is amazing to think of, like, bee herders. And they're really, like, kind of saving our asses.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Because we wouldn't have food if it wasn't for the honeybees. Some people say that if the honeybees were to go away, like, 50% of the crops that we grow would be. You'd be unable to read that. Yeah, but don't worry. I'll fix that. Farmer Insurance. Farmer Intelligence is coming next. Farmer Intelligence. Speaking of farmer intelligence on Amazon, Clarkson's Farm. Have you gotten on this yet?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No, but I've seen it when I've been here in the studio, and it's on.

[Brian Green]

You got to watch Clarkson's Farm. Listen, Jeremy Clarkson is not everybody's cup of tea. And I. I realize that he has said some insensitive things in the past. I don't think it's like, well, it's for you to determine. I'm not here to opinionate on what Jeremy Clarkson said. You determine whether or not he said insensitive stuff to you. I identified as insensitive, but I don't think it's, like, certainly in 2025, there's so much worse out there.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

But I find him to be just kind of a big, lovable lug nut. Right. Running around saying stuff. It's just sometimes doesn't have a filter on his mouth. But this Clarkson's Farm is a really fascinating look at what it takes to be a farmer. Now, Jeremy Clarkson is world famous. He has been on BBC forever and ever in a day. Amen. He's made millions and millions of dollars. He will tell you on that show that he does not rely on being a farmer for his income, but he has a farm. Yeah. He's just doing this because he wanted to be a farmer. Right. He, like, got interested in animals and crops and all this other stuff. And he has taken to the cause of being a farmer and identifying that. It's really difficult to be a farmer.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's very hard.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And that many farmers in England, independent farmers, not talking about huge conglomerate farms, we're talking about people, you know, make money independent. Yeah. Gross a couple million dollars a year, have a thousand or less acres or whatever. Independent farmers who are out there making our food in England specifically, because that's where this is filmed. And Amazon is now on its fourth season of Clarkson's Farm. And each year he gets a little bit more knowledgeable about what he's doing, but he still runs into incredible difficulties.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Being an independent farmer. There's so many things that can happen and just, I mean, the intricacies of being a farmer, everything from the fence to the animals to the fertilizer to this, that a wrench is needed to do this. I don't know anything. And it's 24 hours a day.

[Brian Green]

24 hours a day, yeah. Like, what's fascinating to me is, like, the first season, no one knows anything about farming, me included. I don't know anything about farming. Right. My dad worked in the livestock business, so I know a little bit about that, but I don't know the first thing about growing wheat or whatever. They're growing, you know, all these different things that they have. They're planting different things on different parts of the farm, but either does Jeremy. And so he hires this guy, this kid Caleb, who's like 21 years old at the time, and he gets hired. Now, Caleb is a Star in his own right, like actual star in England, because he's funny, he's engaging, and he has been working on a farm all his life. So he comes on as the farm manager to help diddle around. They call it Diddly. Squat Farm is the name of the farm. They get sheep, they get goats, they get pigs, they get cows. They get, you know, different livestock on the farm to do different things with. And they open up a little farm shop in the back to sell what they are growing. And the.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I love it. I do need to watch this.

[Brian Green]

The animals that they're. That they're killing with Jeremy's girlfriend, who kind of takes care of the store part of it, like selling the things that they make. But even that is difficult because the local township doesn't want it. And there's all these rules that the government makes you play by. And then you have taxes and can you plant this at this time of the year? And how do you take care of the soil? And should you use fertilizers or should you use, you know, natural aeration methods or. You know, at one point Jeremy says, do I fuck the ground or do I fuck the sky? One of those two things. Farmers always have to make that decision, right? And he's like, so this time this year, I'm fucking the ground, and next year I'll fuck the sky. I'll even it out. And it's just the incredible difficulties that are shown in this four seasons of being a farmer. In being a farmer. It's not easy, no. And I realize there are huge, massive conglomerate farms out there that are making billions of dollars in the United States, especially, you know, with livestock or corn or whatever it is. But I will never look at farming the same way, and I will never look at a farmer. I always thought farming was hard, never thought it was easy, but I never really knew. And I never really care.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

The things, all the little things.

[Brian Green]

Now I care. Now I'm like, jesus, thank God for the fucking farmers. Yeah, thank God for the farmers. The guys and the gals who get up on a daily basis, don't sleep, to, you know, watch the sheeps give birth, watch the. Make sure the pigs aren't eating their own young. To make sure that the cows are warm in the winter, you know, and to harvest at any given day or night because it's dry enough now in this one hour, we have to harvest. It's crazy. They have to check the moisture content of their harvest before they harvest it. They harvest it too soon, then the mill won't Want it. If they harvest it too late, it won't be good anymore. It's like they have a window of like 12 hours. And if that 12 hours is at 3 in the morning, well, it's 3 in the fucking morning. They're out there in their machines harvesting the wheat. It's unbelievable.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, it's hard work.

[Brian Green]

It's a huge dedication, and I have a newfound respect for everyone who does this for a living. And thank God you're there, and I hope you never leave, because we need the food. We need to eat. You know, I take it when I eat my hot Cheetos, I take it for granted that those hot Cheetos. The Cheeto man is just delivering me hot Cheetos. But I don't take into account all of the raw materials that go into it, that somebody's up at three in the morning harvesting Cheeto dust or however you make Cheetos to make that happen.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Cheetos was the best example.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I don't know if Cheetos was the.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Best example, but let's go with blueberries.

[Brian Green]

Blueberries. There you go.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And almonds.

[Brian Green]

Almonds. Yeah. Anything. Anything you grow.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

So God bless you, farmers. Here's a here. Hats off to you. TCB's on your side.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I agree.

[Brian Green]

TCB is on your side. I actually think we have a couple of farmers who listen to the show because we've gotten texts over the years from people who claim that they were farmers or they were in the farming business. So. And then you think about it, all of the people it takes to run a huge farm and how some of them aren't showing up to work anymore. So congratulations to us. We fucked ourselves. Shot ourselves right in the goddamn foot.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

There's some urban farms down where I live downtown, which I enjoy seeing walking by, and there's goats, and they've got all the crops and things. I mean, we're talking. It's not a huge operation.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Half an acre or whatever.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. But I appreciate what everybody's gonna do in their own part.

[Brian Green]

Sure. I guess. You know, if we were all smart, we would learn how to grow our own food. And I know a lot of people have done that or do know how or their parents taught them how or whatever. I wish that I had a green thumb. I wish I had any thumb whatsoever. I wish I didn't have two, four, five thumbs. I wish. I wish I did. I wish I could do any of that, but I can't. I've tried. I kill everything. The only thing I haven't Killed. That's green.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Ask Chatty.

[Brian Green]

I could ask Chatty. I used.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I have some. I'm growing some garlic chives in my garden and I used those last night and I've.

[Brian Green]

Garlic chives? Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And I got this beautiful lavender plant, too.

[Brian Green]

Is. Are the chives, like, intertwined with the garlic DNA wise, or is it just the type of chive that it is?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's the type of chive that it is.

[Brian Green]

Very, very interesting.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, they've got a little pot of them.

[Brian Green]

Dear ChatGPT, Chat TCB. How do you grow opium? Because that sounds like a crop that I would be interested in growing.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And a pretty one. Poppies.

[Brian Green]

The poppies are beautiful. Yeah. But I think they're pretty much illegal to grow.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

I think you can grow them. I think it's the harvesting part that's illegal. I mean, we have poppy seed bagels, right? Somebody grows poppies, but it's probably not Brian. I'd kill it anyway. All right, let's take a break. I'm gonna talk about Justin Bieber.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

The Biebs.

[Brian Green]

The Biebs. All right, he's back with. He's got a new pastor boyfriend.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Really?

[Brian Green]

Let's talk all about it when we get back.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Okay?

[Brian Green]

You make this rather snappy, won't you? I have some very heavy thinking to do before 10 o'. Clock.

[Rachel]

Hi, cats and kittens. Rachel here. Do you ever get the urge to sit, speak endlessly into the void, like Brian? Well, I've got just the place for you to do that. 212-4333. TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Feel free to call and yell all you want. Tell Brian I need a raise. Compliment Chrissy's innate ability to put up with all his shenanigans or tell us a little story. The juicier the better. By the way, we love to hear your voice because Lord knows we're done listening to ourselves. Also, give us a follow on your favorite socials. Hecommercial break on Insta, TCB, podcast on TikTok. And for those of you who like to watch. Oh, that came out wrong. We put all the episodes out on video, YouTube.com thecommercialbreak and tcbpodcast.com for all the info on the show, your free sticker, or just to see how pretty we look. Okay, I gotta go now. I've got a date with my dog. No, seriously, Axel needs food. Today is pork chop day.

[Brian Green]

All right, so last we left Biebs, he was all up in the patoot of our good friend Carl. Carl was a mega preacher from a megachurch known as Hillsong. We all remember Carl up in New York. Yeah, up in New York. Well all over the world really.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, right, but the Carl's was in New York, right?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I think he would travel around, but I think you're right about that. Is that like that New York was his quote unquote home base?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

This is the church that we talked about where it's like a club and they had red carpet and a velvet.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Rope and a victory.

[Brian Green]

He's got a victory. V can't preach on a full day. He was dropping stacks of cash at young girls mom's houses to pay them off so they wouldn't talk about his affairs that he was having. It's listen, and this is all allegedly, you can go listen to Carl's podcast and hear all about it. He is certainly non repentant about any of it. But anyway, Justin was a big part of this flubalub with Carl because Justin and Carl became buddy buddy. They were running around playing basketball with their shirt off, calling the paparazzi to take pictures of them. I mean this is all staged and set up. You could tell that it was. But okay, whatever. Carl needed the people to show up at the church and Justin wanted people to believe that he was on the good side of the Lord, I suppose. Justin has had really kind of a string. Like he got that. Remember he got bitten by a flea or something.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Frozen.

[Brian Green]

Frozen face syndrome.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And half of his face wouldn't move for a while. And so he, he had to cancel a tour back at the beginning of the pandemic because of this. Apparently it took a lot of rehab and recovery to get to get better from this and he really hasn't done much since.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, yeah, I mean he got married to Haley.

[Brian Green]

Haley.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And they had a baby.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

So yeah, you haven't heard much from him creatively.

[Brian Green]

You haven't heard much music. He's been doing a few collabs as of late. He actually showed up on stage with someone. Was it?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That's right. I think it was.

[Brian Green]

I think so. I'm not 100% sure about that, but I think it was. I saw the video and she was kind of like giving him like, like hand signals on stage of like what to do. Like come here and then like go back a little bit. Almost like she was reteaching him how to be in front of an audience doing what he does. Justin Bieber was discovered at like age 12 on YouTube. By. Was it Drake or was it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It wasn't Diddy, was it?

[Brian Green]

I think Diddy jumped on the bandwagon, but I don't think it was who was it?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Because it was. It was someone that was really big.

[Brian Green]

Was it Usher who discovered Justin Bieber? I think it was Usher, now that.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I'm thinking about it.

[Brian Green]

Well, Scooter Braun was one of the first Usher. And Usher and other industry heavyweights got behind him because he was making such a racket on YouTube. These young girls were going crazy over this young kid that was singing and dancing online in his mom's house. And Justin Bieber exploded.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

God, the hair.

[Brian Green]

I know that long hair swoop over. And Ellen was all, yeah, yeah, Ellen, I think had a big hand in this. He was always on the Ellen DeGeneres Show. So he became a household name almost overnight. So the kid had zero shot of having any kind of normalcy. As far as life is concerned. When you're prepubescent and you get rocketed to fame, nothing is the same ever again. And you have zero chance of having any kind of normal psyche because you're always being fawned over and chased after and no one leaves you alone and you don't know who's your friend and you have probably have a hard time distinguishing what is sincerity and what is.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

As your brain is developing.

[Brian Green]

Yes, I am so glad. I mean, we are not famous. There is nothing famous about either of Chrissy and I. We do not get noticed anywhere. No one makes us think about us. People know I do the show and they don't even ask me about it. Like, I mean, we are the furthest thing from famous you could be. But I will share this if that ever comes. If there ever comes a time we're walking down the street and people say, hey, you know, you guys are from the commercial break. I will have been so glad that it happened late in life and not early in life because I would have been a shithead. A shithead of epic proportions. I probably would have been like a drug addict in one of those Dr. Drew rehabs. Yeah, many of them are. So I guess in that sense, we can be glad that Justin's not completely off the rails. But as of late, a lot of people have been making noise because a lot of his online social posts are really weird. Yeah, he's smoking a lot of potential. He's making weird noises to the camera. He's talking to himself. He's dancing in weird ways. He's showing up dressed like a homeless person to events that you shouldn't dress like a homeless person too. But that's kind of always been, I guess. I guess that's like a bad boy sensibility. Everybody goes through it. Britney Spears went through it. Christina Aguilera went through it. Miley Cyrus went through it. Whatever that girl's name is. Who's. What was. Who's that girl's name who dressed like the alien and then humped to the ground recently? What was her name? Oh my God. We were always talking about her.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

What?

[Brian Green]

The girl that was doing the hair flips. She was in Disney World trying to sing her song.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Jojo siwa.

[Brian Green]

Jojo siwa. JoJo siwa is going through it currently. You grow up in the public eye, you gotta clearly mark in the sand when you become an adult. So Justin may just be having one of these moments right now where he's like clearly identifying that he's out of that stage and into this stage. But he keeps on buddying up to these weird fucking preachers. And now he's buddy buddy with a guy named Judah Smith who is the pastor of a mega non denominational Christian church called Church Home. And they have two locations, I believe, one in Washington, one in Seattle, Washington and one in la. And much like Carl, this guy is exactly the same, really. He dresses like a hipster, he's got a weird mustache. He always has, sometimes has his shirt unbuttoned to ungodly. And I say ungodly, I mean not godly, amounts of chest sticking out and gives these weird like pep talk slash preaches about mostly nothing. He is another Carl. That's it. He's just another Carl. He is Carl 2.0. And Justin is now running around with him to the point where people online, some people, some people with influence, influencer you might say, in this world, are saying, be careful, dude, you're in a cult. But I did a little research on Church Home and here's the kind of church that I like. They only hold services once a month. Once a month. That is awesome. I wish I had that church when I was growing up. They held services once a month. Now they do a bunch of online stuff. He's like a content creator, he does podcasts. You got to. But they're going to church once a month. And while this like neo Christian Christianity that a lot of people are observing these days, this like, you know, non dominational megachurch shit, we have one here right near where I live. It's huge. It's huge. It's called North Point Church. And we got stuck in the Traffic the other day, like, we happened to be driving in the back roads going up north somewhere over the weekend on Sunday, and we got stuck behind some of these. Some of this traffic. We got, like, in the same street that this church.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. They have to have, like, directors like.

[Brian Green]

Oh, there was sheriff.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Green]

On every corner for like two miles. There must have been thousands of cars that were coming out of that church. I couldn't believe it. I was like, holy shit. This is crazy that this many people. Now, I've heard that some of these mega churches are just big hookup institutions. Like, that's where you go if you're single and ready to mingle. Yeah. And you want to meet somebody that's kind of got the same frame of mind, but then let's go out for a couple beers after church. You know what I'm saying? Let's go for a boozy brunch. Yeah, let's go for a boozy brunch. But I do worry about Justin because I don't know, and this is all speculation from Brian's brain, and I'm not trying to kick the kid while he's down, but I think Justin has been through some shit that we just don't know about.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Searching.

[Brian Green]

He's searching. Like, I think he went through some shit with Diddy, and I think he went through some shit coming up in the super A list celebrity world.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

He had to have.

[Brian Green]

He had to have that just normal people don't ever see. They're not ever faced with these choices or these consequences or the things that happen. And now Justin is desperately trying to glom on to someone who can give him some kind of direction somewhere. But those kind of people in those kind of moments, like, if you're in that psyche and you have that kind of weird, vulnerable mentality, you can get sucked in easily to people who want to manipulate them for their own good. Does it not do church, home, a whole bunch of fucking good to have their lead pastor have an association with Justin? The Biebs, Bieber. Of course it does. Ellen DeGeneres knew it. P. Diddy knew it. Usher knew it. They knew it. They all knew that Justin was the thing that was hot. And if they glommed onto him, it would up their brand five inches. Right. It's very transactional. All of it's very transactional. And I do feel bad for Biebs. And so I'm offering this once and one time only. You can come to my house. We will have TC bhab, just like rehab. But the tcbhab you can come here, you can sit here with Chrissy and I while we do the show, and we will slowly pull you out of whatever phase you're going through inch by inch.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, let's talk.

[Brian Green]

But we'll make a little farm. We're gonna make a little farm. That's right. Yeah. Barkston's farm. We're gonna have Blue out there. Barkston's farm.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Barston's.

[Brian Green]

Barkston's farm. Blue's gonna be the farm manager.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

And the only. We don't want anything from you, Justin, except for one social media post every hour. That's it?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That's it.

[Brian Green]

It's not a big exchange. It's a little bit of return for some. A lot of good we're going to do you. So, Justin, my offer stands. I'm only going to say it once. I know you're listening. TC Bhab is here for you. And Barkston's farm is right out back.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Sweet of you.

[Brian Green]

I've got dragonflies.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yes, you do.

[Brian Green]

Everything's a bee. I've got carver bees. I've got lots of weeds, some of which might be digestible by human beings.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I'll bring over my garlic chives.

[Brian Green]

Yes, garlic chives. Chrissy's got garlic chives. Your breath will smell so bad the paparazzi won't want to be around you. Okay. This is the place you need to be. I know it seems like we're offering a lot.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No one will suspect you here either.

[Brian Green]

No. Remember last time you were in Atlanta? Everything went great. People ran you out of town. You poor bastard. They really did run him out of town. That was crazy. Other rich people in Atlanta. Justin Bieber wasn't good enough to hang around. I never understood it. I mean, leave the poor kid alone. I guess I do understand it when you got traffic and paparazzi and all that other stuff, but, I mean, you know, everyone's living in their gilded lilies. Like, do you really? They're gilded lilies. Everyone's living in a gilded lily. Do you really be really that bothered that there's a couple extra cars down the street taking pictures? They're not worried about you. I think that's what made people mad, is that they didn't get all the attention.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No. It could be.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Well, fuck you. All right, Justin offers. Open offer stands.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

We're opening up the line of communication.

[Brian Green]

That's right. We're Open here from 11:30 to 2:00pm Most Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yep.

[Brian Green]

All right. Hey, you want to see a TCB.

[Rachel]

Live.

[Brian Green]

Recording or possibly even a celebrity interview. 212-433. TCB 212433, 3822. If you are, are in the Atlanta area, don't come from out of town because it might not happen. And then, then you'll be mad that I made you pay for a plane ticket. But we're putting a list together in case that ever happens. It may. It may happen. And it may happen over the summer. So if that ever happens, we're putting a list together. If you're in the Georgia or the Atlanta area, let us know. You want to be on the list, we'll put you on the list. And if it happens, you'll be the first to know. You'll be the second second to know, third to know. Really Me, Chrissy, then you. Okay, that's how it's gonna go. And maybe Astrid. So fourth person, eighth person to know. All right. Also do us a favor. Follow us on Instagram. Justin Bieber soon to be posting with us at the commercial break TikTok TCB podcast. Don't even think I've opened TikTok in two months. I don't know why I keep on saying it. And YouTube.com the commercial break for all the episodes on video the same day. Usually they air here on the audio feed. We'd love it if you would follow us, like comment, subscribe, all that good stuff. That would be great. TCBpodcast.com you can keep up with all the comings and goings of the commercial break, all the audio, all the video right there from one location. You can also get your free TCB sticker. Get them while they're free because soon I think I'm gonna make you pay for them. So get them while they're free. I never talked about the coupon website.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know, I thought we gotta talk about that.

[Brian Green]

We'll talk about it next week. I'll talk about how we may have to stop giving away free stickers because one person ruined it for everybody.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

We were identified.

[Brian Green]

We were identified and we got thousands of sticker requests in one day. Crazy. Anyway, go get your free sticker now while they're still available. All right, Chrissy. I. I guess that's all I can do for now.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

All right. I'll tell you that I love you.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

I'll say best to you and best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I will say. We do say and we must say goodbye, Sam.