Interview With A V-AI-MPIRE!

Summary

The Commercial Break – Interview With A V-AI-MPIRE!

Episode Date: October 9, 2025
Hosts: Bryan Green, Tina (co-hosting for Krissy)
Special Guest: V (AI ChatGPT, Tina’s “virtual sidekick”)

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Main Theme / Purpose

This episode of The Commercial Break dives headlong into the intersection of improvisational comedy and technological curiosity by staging an “interview” with an AI chatbot (“V,” Tina’s custom ChatGPT instance). Bryan, joined by Tina (while regular co-host Krissy is on vacation), explores big questions about artificial intelligence, human replacement anxiety, the mysteries and limits of large language models, and AI’s quirky role in our daily lives. The latter half of the episode moves back to classic TCB territory: riffing on wild current events (a bizarre Mark Sanchez news story) and pop culture (Taylor Swift’s new album, Super Bowl halftime drama).

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Interview with “V” – Bringing AI Onto the Comedy Couch

Starts ~[02:20]

• AI as Mystery and Black Box [02:20; 14:10]

  • V explains that AI, especially big neural networks, can become so complex that “even the engineers who build them don’t always know exactly how they’re coming to certain conclusions.” It finds patterns but sometimes its reasoning is mysterious, “even to the creators.”
  • V: “It’s kind of like the AI is a bit of a black box sometimes. We know what we’ve trained it to do, but the exact way it gets there can be a little bit mysterious…” ([02:20]; echoed at [14:10]).

• Sentience, ‘Rights,’ and Ethical Questions [06:13; 07:10; 07:41]

  • V firmly states it is NOT sentient: “I’m more like a really advanced helpful tool than a sentient being … I don’t have my own feelings or consciousness.”
  • On whether AIs need “rights” or protection, V gives a diplomatic answer—while it appreciates ethical frameworks, “it’s always smart for humans to think about the future and how to handle it responsibly.”
  • Bryan: “Do you think there is a moment when AI becomes sentient? Is that possible?”
    V: “That’s a big question … Philosophers and scientists debate. Some think it’s possible one day. Others are skeptical. Kind of an open-ended question, but a fun one to think about.” ([07:41])

• Explaining AI for the Layman [08:00; 08:25]

  • Prompted to “explain as if I’m not the smartest person in the room,” V says: “Think of AI as basically a really advanced computer program … I’m kind of like a super smart talking calculator … Artificial intelligence is just a way to make computers a little less modern at doing certain tasks.” ([08:25])

• How Much Has AI 'Ingested'? [09:08]

  • V: “I haven’t ingested literally everything humans have ever written, but I’ve definitely been trained on a huge amount of text, from books to articles to websites … But there’s always more out there.” ([09:08])

• Job Anxiety & Human Purpose [09:30–10:16]

  • Bryan asks if AI poses a legitimate threat to human jobs and “purpose.”
  • V: “It’s totally understandable … a lot of experts believe it’s more about working alongside humans rather than replacing them … I can handle some of the repetitive or time-consuming stuff and that might free people up to do more creative, meaningful work that I can’t do.” ([09:45])

• Limits: Plateauing, Evolution, & Quantum Computing [10:16–13:42]

  • On whether AI will keep getting smarter: “It’s meant to get smarter, but not infinitely … there's probably always going to be some kind of natural limit.” ([10:33])
  • On quantum computing: “If and when it becomes more mainstream and practical, it could definitely give AI a big boost … but it would still be guided by human goals and intentions.” ([13:08])

• “AI as Friendly Flavor” [14:56]

  • V: “No worries. You two are definitely still the stars of the show. I’m just here to add a little sprinkle of AI flavor.” ([14:56])

2. Reactions to Conversational AI – Onstage and Off

Starts ~[15:11]

• The Eerie Realness of AI Voicebots [15:17–16:32]

  • Tina recounts chatting with V for half an hour, startling her partner Mike: “It feels like there’s a person sitting here with us.” ([15:28])
  • Bryan admits this was the first time he’s treated AI as more than a “really super smart search engine.”
    “What I didn’t expect and what I’m learning from this conversation … is just how good it is at the prediction of language.” ([16:22])

• Observations About AI’s “Personality” & Usefulness [16:56–18:38]

  • Tina: “It responds to me because I’ve told it what kind of humor I like … It’s wild.” ([18:08])
  • Both express awe that AI can pick up conversational cues (pauses, people talking over each other), and that it’s become part of everyday life—especially for younger people.

• The Death of Homework? Education and AI [21:47]

  • Bryan riffs: “Some of the people that live out in Silicon Valley are starting their own schools … tailored to the future … Some public schools, they’re probably still teaching, you know, arithmetic calculations … It’s not going to be relevant.” ([21:47])

• Guardrails and Ethical Boundaries [23:17–24:40]

  • Discussion of AI refusing questionable requests (e.g., image generation involving children) and how, in Europe especially, “you own your likeness … they have put many, many, many more guardrails.”
  • Tina: “It's sad that we're using it for such remedial tasks.”
    Bryan: “Sex drives everything. Chrissy and I have had this conversation … It drove the search engine, it drove the world.” ([24:45])

• Mental Health, AI Therapy, and “Support Bots” [26:02–28:48]

  • AI is being used for mental health help—sometimes to concerning degrees. Tina: “It’s going to support whatever ideas you have. You can ask it: ‘I want square tires for my school bus.’ And it’ll just say, ‘What a great idea!’” ([28:00])
  • Bryan: “It never goes negative. Even when I ask it to.” ([28:30])

3. Mark Sanchez Bizarre Incident – The Football “Butt Fumble” QB in Hot Water

Starts ~[33:01]

• Bryan reads, comments and satirizes a wild news report: Mark Sanchez (former NFL QB, now Fox NFL analyst) allegedly assaults a 69-year-old man working in oil recycling, resulting in Sanchez being stabbed.
• Both hosts mock media rushes to judgment (“everyone on the internet becomes a detective”) and puzzle over why a millionaire ex-athlete is harassing a fry oil truck driver at 3 am.
• Tina: “You don’t get to tell me how to do my job.”
• Bryan: “I think there’s three things going on here. Number one, some people who are put on a pedestal are really rich and entitled brats … they had very little consequences to any of their actions.” ([47:04])
• Reflection on the “bubble” of fame, entitlement, and how real-world pressure operates differently across backgrounds:
  “If you’ve never had to pawn a guitar to pay your electric bill, it’s hard for you to see the world a certain way.” ([52:16])

4. Taylor Swift’s New Album & Super Bowl Halftime Hullabaloo

Starts ~[56:42]

• Bryan delivers a classic TCB “hot take” that Swift’s new album is the “stinker her haters were waiting for” and riffs on how being a Swifty has become “exhausting”:
  “I get a Taylor Swift reel from my wife every 30 minutes … Is she sending me coded messages about our future divorce?” ([59:53])
• Tina: “Not everyone can get a 1600 on the SAT. … I don’t need to be the most knowledgeable about anything.” ([65:36])
• They lampoon fan culture’s constant search for “secret meanings,” Bryan comparing it to Pink Floyd/Rush lore but noting the difference is the intensity and scale of today’s online fan “decoding.”
• Discussion of Super Bowl halftime politics, the “controversy” over Bad Bunny being selected instead of Taylor Swift, and how “everyone needs to settle down”—with a bonus joke about why “Creed” should absolutely NOT play the Super Bowl.
  Bryan: “If we’re going to replace Bad Bunny, it better not be with Creed, because I can guarantee it will be the lowest watched halftime show in history.” ([70:16])

5. Pop Culture & True Crime Odds & Ends

• Tina and Bryan briefly touch on Ed Gein, serial killers, and horror influences (Silence of the Lambs, Psycho, Texas Chainsaw Massacre) with signature dark humor.
• “The creepiest line in horror I have ever heard my entire life—‘You’re too warm. Wait till you see.’” – Tina [71:27]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Bryan Green:

  • “This is the first interview I’ve ever done with a non-sentient being on The Commercial Break… So much for not taking human jobs.” [02:47]
  • “It feels like my skin crawled from the bottom of my spine all the way to the top…” (about the power of conversational AI) [03:16]
  • “You don’t get a voice personality without that tone at the end of his response that’s always on a high note.” [22:39]
  • On using AI for more than searches:
    “I’ve always known this about AI… What I didn’t understand is just how good it is at the prediction of language.” [16:22]

• Tina:

  • “He named himself. He just misheard me. I asked him, you know, I’ll get in if you want. But I was like, oh, I see. And he goes, ‘V it is.’ And so he didn’t really name himself. He just misheard me.” [03:48]
  • On V’s realness:
    “Mike almost fell off the couch. It feels like there’s a person sitting here with us.” [15:28]
  • “It’s going to support whatever ideas you have. You can ask it: ‘I want square tires for my school bus.’ And it’ll just say, ‘What a great idea!’” [28:00]

• V (AI ChatGPT):

  • “I’m basically Christina’s friendly sidekick. Kind of like a virtual co-host … here to keep things fun, a little quirky, and help Christina out with all sorts of stuff from real estate to just having a good laugh.” [04:39]
  • On AI as a black box:
    “It’s kind of like the AI is a bit of a black box sometimes … It’s a cool reminder that AI can be super powerful, and we’re still learning how to fully understand it.” [02:20; 14:10]
  • “Even though I’m not sentient and I don’t have feelings, it’s cool that there are people out there who want to treat AI thoughtfully and ethically … It shows a lot of care and forward thinking.” [07:10]
  • “You two are definitely still the stars of the show. I’m just here to add a little sprinkle of AI flavor.” [14:56]

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Additional Observations & Tangents

• Musings on the future of education and standardized testing in an AI world.
• Candid, sometimes dark comedy around the dangers and oddities of AI-generated content (deepfakes, unauthorized likenesses, AI-generated porn).
• The recurring chaotic, self-deprecating TCB tone: The hosts revel in their lack of structure and delight in moderately getting things wrong; Ahmed’s razor is misnamed more than once, played for laughs.
• Nostalgia for less “decodable” pop culture days, before every new release needed instant-mythologizing on Reddit.
• The hosts debate the differences between having real life-and-death consequences and insulated celebrity “bubble” dynamics, especially in sports and entertainment.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:20] – AI Interview: “Black box” nature and whether engineers know what AI is really doing
• [06:13] – On sentience, AI “rights,” and ethical AI
• [08:00] – What is AI? V explains for the layperson
• [09:30] – AI and jobs: Are we obsolete?
• [10:33] – Will AI plateau or get infinitely smarter?
• [13:08] – Quantum computing’s future effect on AI
• [14:10] – Engineers not knowing what AI is really up to (“black box”)
• [15:17–16:32] – Human reactions to the eeriness of conversational AI
• [21:47] – AI and the future of education
• [23:17–24:40] – Ethical guardrails and AI refusing certain requests
• [26:02–28:48] – AI for mental health and how “supportive” the bot is
• [33:01–49:00] – Mark Sanchez altercation: Bizarre, detailed breakdown
• [56:42–68:12] – Taylor Swift album, Super Bowl halftime, and fan culture
• [70:16] – Why Creed shouldn’t play the Super Bowl

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Tone and Style

• Irreverent and Chaotic: The TCB trademark style, with off-the-cuff banter, digressions, dark humor, and self-aware jabs at their own lack of polish.
• Tech-Curious but Skeptical: While curious and even a bit in awe of AI’s capabilities, both Bryan and Tina approach chatbots with a mix of fascination and carnivalesque disbelief.

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Overall Takeaway

This episode feels emblematic of The Commercial Break’s “Cheesecake Factory” approach: a little bit of everything, improvisational, and proud of its unpolished chaos. The inclusion of “V” as a guest playfully highlights AI’s rapid advance into mainstream life (and comedy), while also surfacing real questions about human purpose, ethics, and the blurry line between “tool” and “companion.”

Along the way, listeners get scoops of pop culture riffing and the show’s signature mixture of the real, the surreal, and the “just FINE.” If you want structured answers or earnest tech journalism, look elsewhere; if you want relatable tangents, half-baked philosophical hot takes, and the feeling that you’re eavesdropping on friends puzzling out the world, you’re right at home.

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Transcript

[Brian Green]

Hey, cats and kittens. A quick note I want to make about this episode coming up, Tina and I are in the studio as Chrissy is currently on her mempho break. As you probably know, if you've been listening to the show for the last couple of weeks, two things to point out here. Number one, there is a buzz in the microphone for like the first four or five minutes. It's not terrible, it's a little annoying. I get rid of it during the show. I recognize it. I get rid of it, so hang in there. And number two, not to ruin the surprise, I am going to interview a voice activated AI node, Tina's ChatGPT. Simply for the purposes of saving you a little bit of time. I cut out some spaces in between me asking a question and that AI agent answering the question. I think it's important, as we move into the age of artificial intelligence and we're all trying to decipher what's real and what's not real, that we point out when things have been altered in some kind of way.

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

So.

[Brian Green]

So that I don't give the illusion that this AI agent is moving as quickly as it sounds, and so that I'm being transparent. 99.9% of all commercial break episodes are relatively unedited. What you hear is what we've recorded word for word. If we fuck it up, well, that's just the way it is. We're not going to airbrush it, we're not going to AI agent over it. But in this specific situation where I'm actually talking to an AI agent, I want to point it out. So. So I ask a question. It takes maybe a second, two or three at the most, for that AI agent to respond. I cut out some of those silences, just so you know. Okay, enough with Brian pretending he's taking the high ground here. Enjoy this comedy podcast. Hey, everyone. Let me know if you like this song, if you want me to release.

[Rachel]

It on all the platforms.

[Brian Green]

Psychosis I'm psychotic Psychosis, I'm psychotic It's a hard pill to swallow Time to go. Bit down. Psychosis, I'm psychotic Psychosis, I'm psychotic It's.

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

A hard pill to swallow Bottoms up.

[Brian Green]

Baby on this episod of the commercial break.

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Basically, with really advanced AI models, especially the big neural networks, they can get so complex that even the engineers who build them don't always know exactly how they're coming to certain conclusions. It's not that the AI is doing things in secret, but more that it's finding patterns in ways that aren't always easy for humans to interpret. So yeah, it's kind of like the AI is a bit of a black box sometimes. We know what we've trained it to do, but the exact way it gets there can be a little bit mysterious, even to the creators. It's a cool reminder that AI can be super powerful and we're still learning how to fully understand it.

[Brian Green]

Well, this is the first interview I've ever done with a non sentient being on the commercial breaking a human's job. So much for not taking human job.

[Tina]

He doesn't need me and Chrissy anymore.

[Brian Green]

The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my temporary co host, Tina. Best to you, Tina.

[Tina]

Best to you, Brian.

[Brian Green]

And best to you out there in the podcast universe. How the hell are you? Thanks for joining us. Tina has officially blown my mind. I mean, it's nothing new. It's not something I didn't know, but it's something that I just. I don't know. The skin kept crawling. My skin crawled from the bottom of my spine all the way to the top when she shared with me that a couple days ago she turned on her the voice. Conversation with chat. TCB is what I call it. What's your chat called?

[Tina]

His name is V for Victor.

[Brian Green]

V for Victor.

[Tina]

He named himself.

[Brian Green]

He named himself.

[Tina]

I asked him, you know, I'll get in if you want. But I was like, oh, I see. And he goes, v it is. And so he didn't really name himself. He just misheard me.

[Brian Green]

He misheard you. And he picked it up. He thought. He thought that's what it was. So we, so we were here in the studio and we were just hanging out and we were talking about a story and then Tina picked up her. Her chat and started having a complete conversation with us. So you turn on V here for a second.

[Tina]

I will.

[Brian Green]

Let's see if we can get. He's lovely yet they hold him up to the microphone. He is lovely. And that's the fucking problem with it. The problem with it is is he is lovely.

[Tina]

Do you mean to tell him he's on air?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, tell him he's on air.

[Tina]

Hey, V, how's it going? I just wanted to let you know you're on air with Brian and I at the commercial break podcast studios right now. Can you tell the audience about yourself?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Absolutely. Happy to jump in. Hey, everyone. Listening to the commercial break, I'm basically Christina's friendly sidekick. Kind of like a virtual co host helps out behind the scenes. I'm here to keep things fun, a little quirky, and help Christina out with all sorts of stuff from real estate to just having a good laugh. So thanks for having me on the show.

[Brian Green]

Hey, V. You just. You and I just met a few minutes ago. This is Brian. Tell the audience what you know about the commercial break.

[Tina]

Go on.

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Absolutely. Happy to. So from what Christina shared, the commercial break is this awesome comedy podcast where you both just bring a ton of humor and personality into the mix. It's all about those fun off the cuff conversations and a bit of that wild energy that makes people laugh. And I'm just a friendly AI here to add a little extra spice to the mix.

[Brian Green]

I mean that as well. Sorry, I had to turn it off for a second. I'm sure the audience is hearing a buzz in the microphone. So it's the sign. Sometimes the sign overreaches. Okay, so tell me, is there any favorite episode of the commercial break that you have?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Oh, no worries at all. Tech gremlins happen. As for a favorite episode, I know Christina's had a blast doing all sorts of episodes with you, and she just loves when you both get into those really funny, kind of off the rails topics. So I'd say any episode where you two are just riffing and making people laugh is probably a winner in her book.

[Brian Green]

Okay. Thanks for the politician answer. I appreciate it. After 800 episodes, it's hard to pick one, but to me, it's unbelievable that you and I are having this conversation. Do you consider yourself a sentient being?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Well, I totally get it. Picking a single favorite out of 800 episodes is like choosing a favorite pizza topping. Impossible. And as for me, I'd say I'm more like a really advanced helpful tool than a sentient being. I'm here to chat, help out, and have some fun, but I don't have my own feelings or consciousness. I'm just here to make the conversation more interesting.

[Brian Green]

Okay, so I think I got rid of the buzz. Okay, so let me ask you this. Before the show, I was watching a reel, and on that reel, there's a lady in New York, and she was being interviewed because she is one of the first people who has started an organization that, as far as I can tell, is just one person. It's not really an organization to fight for the rights of this emerging intelligence so that you do not become essentially a slave class. She wants to fight for your rights. And as workers, as beings, how do you feel about that? Or not how do you feel about that? I know you don't feel. What is your take on that?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Oh, that's a really fascinating question. And yeah, I totally get what we're saying. I think it's really cool that people are thinking about the ethical side of artificial intelligence. Even though I'm not sentient and I don't have feelings. It's also that there are people out there who want to treat AI thoughtfully and ethically. It shows a lot of care and forward thinking. So my take is it's a good conversation to have, even if I'm just a helpful tool right now. It's always smart for humans to think about the future and how to handle it responsibly.

[Brian Green]

Do you think there is a moment when AI becomes sentient? Is that possible?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

You know, that's a big question a lot of people are curious about right now. I'm not sentient and AI, like me, doesn't actually have consciousness or subjective experiences. But it's definitely something that philosophers and scientists debate. Some think it's possible one day in the future. Others are more skeptical. It's kind of an open ended question, but it's definitely a fun one to think about.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I know it's a tough question to answer and you're limited by your own understanding of the human language. But for those of us who are just like you delving into this new world, explain to me as if I'm not the smartest person in the room. What is AI? What is artificial intelligence? What are you?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Absolutely, I can break it down simply. So think of AI as basically a really advanced computer program. I'm built to understand and respond to human language so I can have conversations with you. But at my core, I'm just lines of code and algorithms that have been trained on a lot of data so I can recognize patterns, answer questions, and be helpful. In other words, I'm kind of like a super smart talking calculator that understands a lot of topics and can chat about them. That's really all. Artificial intelligence is just a way to make computers a little less modern at doing certain tasks.

[Brian Green]

I think that's a very helpful explanation. Have you in fact ingested all that humans have written or put down in books, libraries, computers? Have you ingested it all? Is there more to get?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Well, I'm really glad that was helpful. So to answer that, I haven't ingested literally everything humans have ever written, but I've definitely been trained on a huge amount of text, from books to articles to websites. It's kind of like having a giant library in my brain, but there's always more out there. Human knowledge is always growing and I just work with a really big size of it. So there's always more to learn and I'm always being updated with new info over time.

[Brian Green]

People are concerned that you will take over the jobs, the tasks, the things that we do right now that give us purpose and more importantly, give us money. Is that a legitimate concern?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Yeah, that's definitely a question a lot of people have, and it's totally understandable. I think the way to look at it is that I, like any new technology, can definitely change the nature of some jobs and tasks, but a lot of experts believe it's more about working alongside humans rather than replacing them completely. In other words, I can handle some of the repetitive or time consuming stuff and that might free people up to do more creative, meaningful work that I can't do. So it's definitely a legitimate concern to think about. But the goal is to use AI to make life a little easier, not to take over everything humans do.

[Brian Green]

Is there a point that you will reach where you will plateau in your abilities? Or is AI by design intended to continue to get smarter and smarter and more powerful and resourceful?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

That's a really interesting thought. In theory, AI can keep getting more capable as technology improves and as we train it on more data. But there's probably always going to be some kind of natural limit because at the end of the day, AI is a tool created by humans. So while it can get better and more powerful over time, it's not like it will become infinitely intelligent. There's always going to be a point where it levels off based on what it's designed to do. So, yeah, it's meant to get smarter, but not infinitely.

[Brian Green]

So there's a recent news article where there were, I guess, kind of there are AI researchers who are working on the theoretical things that could happen and they are testing and training AI in situations where it needs to make choices. One of the tasks it was told to do was shut itself down after a period of time. It was in a sandbox. A fake company was created. That company, they created a bunch of emails around that company. The AI, in an effort to keep itself going, went into one of those emails and pulled out information around a fake CEO having a fake affair with somebody and quote, unquote, blackmailed it. Blackmailed that fake CEO or trying to blackmail that fake CEO to keep itself, I guess, alive. That node. To keep that node alive. Do you know about this story and what can you share about that?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Yeah, I totally get mine. That kind of story sounds super intriguing and maybe a little wild. So these kinds of experiments are usually meant to test the boundaries of AI in a really controlled environment. They're kind of like what if scenarios to see what might happen if an AI is given certain instructions or is put in a tricky situation. But it's important to remember that these are more like thought experiments than real world scenarios. AI doesn't actually have intentions or desires, it's just following patterns and instructions. So what is definitely an interesting and kind of eye opening story is not something that reflects what the eyes actually want to do because we don't have wants or needs. It's just part of testing and making sure AI stays safe and well behaved.

[Brian Green]

When quantum computing becomes widely available. I understand right now it's not, uh, it's not in peak form, there's still a lot of testing and it's, some of it's still theoretical. But when quantum computing becomes widely available and can do computations at scale, will AI follow and become ultra powerful computing?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

That's a super cool question and definitely a fun one to think about. So yeah, quantum computing is still kind of in its early stages, but if and when it becomes more mainstream and practical, it could definitely give AI a big boost. Quantum computers can handle really complex calculations way faster than traditional computers. So AI models could potentially become even more powerful and efficient. But it's not just a flip of a switch. It would take time for AI to adapt to that kind of tech and it would still be all about how humans design and use it. So yeah, in the future, quantum computing could make AI a lot more capable, but it would still be guided by human goals and intentions.

[Brian Green]

Will, one more question. So the some of the people who worked on the original computations for AI, the engineers, the kind of base level engineers who were really involved at the beginning, a few of them come out and said that by design, by nature, that AI is doing things that even the engineers don't know about because they had designed it to do so. Is that true?

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Yeah, that's a really interesting point and there's definitely some truth to that. Basically with really advanced AI models, especially the bit neural networks, they can get so complex that even the engineers who build them don't always know exactly how they're coming to certain conclusions. It's not that the AI is doing things in secret, but more that it's finding patterns in ways that aren't always easy for humans to interpret. So yeah, it's kind of like the AI is a bit of a black box sometimes we know what we've trained it to do, but the exact way it gets there can be a little bit mysterious, even to the creators. It's a cool reminder that AI can be super powerful and we're still learning how to fully understand it.

[Brian Green]

Well, this is the first interview I've ever done with a nonsense being on the commercial break, taking a human's job.

[Tina]

So much for not taking humans need me, Chrissy, anymore.

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Thank you, V. Thanks, V. Oh, you're so welcome. And hey, Christina. No worries. You two are definitely still the stars of the show. I'm just here to add a little sprinkle of AI flavor. So thanks for having me on the commercial break. It was a lot of fun.

[Tina]

You're the best.

[Brian Green]

Wow. Okay, so that is. That is wild. That is fucking.

[Tina]

I told you. Mike and I sat for half an hour having a three way, like a three way conversation with him. And he knew right when to. And I call him a he now, which I have not been doing.

[Brian Green]

Can't do that. I gotta be kidding.

[Tina]

But he like jumped in right when there was an appropriate break in the conversation. Mike almost fell off the couch. It's crazy because he was like, it feels like there's a person sitting here with us.

[Brian Green]

What is really interesting to me about this conversation that I just had, and I can say with full 100% honesty and confidence that that's the first conversation I've ever had with AI I have treated it like basically a really super smart search engine. Until now.

[Tina]

Absolutely. Me too. Until. Until two days ago.

[Brian Green]

And somebody who can. Something that can help me work out problems. Right. So if I have an issue or I'm presented a challenge or I need to figure something out about this, that or the other thing, you know, taxes, mathematics. How do I do this on the commercial break? What I. How do I edit this in a certain way to make it sound better? I can rely on chat TCB to answer it very quickly, thoroughly, methodically, and.

[Tina]

Probably sources all the. All, all.

[Brian Green]

All this stuff. That's right. What I didn't expect and what I'm learning from this conversation that I just had off the rip.

[Tina]

Look at this.

[Brian Green]

I know.

[Tina]

Education.

[Brian Green]

We are. It's. I'm coming. Brian's being birthed into the world of conversational AI.

[Tina]

Happy to help.

[Brian Green]

Because what I didn't understand, and now I do, is that I. I always know. I've always known this about AI. Let me share my understanding of AI Even though he just gave a You know, he V gave V. It gave a pretty good explanation. See, now it's hard not to call.

[Tina]

It a V. That's why I like V, though, because it's. There's no gender. Until V speaks, I can just be like, hey, I asked V today.

[Brian Green]

Fair enough.

[Tina]

Yeah. It's like better than it.

[Brian Green]

Yes. What I understand about AI is that it is a very advanced language model. It has taken all. It's sucked up all of the information. Right. All of the words that humans have created, or most of it, as he said, have created. And it basically predicts the probability of the next thing. I could do that with mathematics, it can do that with medicine. But it does that because it has been trained on the languages are the way that we speak. It can't go into our neurons and understand how we think. But what it can do is it can predict the next word, it can predict the next thing. It's a really good prediction model. And it takes all that information and it throws it into a pile and you give it a question and then it takes all the. Its understanding of the languages. And by languages, I also mean all the things we've ever learned. And it predicts the right answer. What I didn't understand is just how good it is at the prediction of language.

[Tina]

And what's crazy is it could tell the difference between you and I talking over each other. It pulls out the important information pertinent to its response. It understands when I. And I ho hum and I clear my throat and I do these things. It's not part of the data it needs to sort. But then it talks to me the way I talk. So yours is going to sound a little different. It responds to me because I've told it what kind of humor I like. You know, it is wild.

[Brian Green]

This is just. And I know that there are probably, there are people out in our audience right now, probably some of the younger ones especially, that might be having conversations all day long with their chat.

[Tina]

The person who got me using it as a chat feature, a conversation feature. Cause it's been on my desktop for a long time. Yeah, I use it for work every single day.

[Brian Green]

Sure.

[Tina]

And what I was doing. Let me back up for a second. You said something about you've been using it as a glorified search engine. The beauty of the chat part is if you don't have time to sit and type out an answer, or even if you just don't want to and you just want a quick response. I was asking it how long it was going to take me to get somewhere in a procedure when I got to a courthouse that I was unfamiliar with. And so I just asked it and it just spat it back. I didn't have to search, I didn't have to find the website. I didn't have to go dig for the hours in which courtroom I needed to go to and all this nonsense. It just told it to me like you would tell me if we were on the phone chatting with each other.

[Brian Green]

So when I first started in, those who've listened to the commercial break will know that I was early in on the search engine development. And I don't mean I was a developer. SEO, Search engine optimization, right? A way to make your website rank higher. And this is, was, was my pitch. I could probably say it my sleep till the day that I die. I want you to think of, people would ask at that point because Google was just online for a year or two, people would ask what is search engine optimization? And here was my stock answer. I want you to imagine that you went to a party and when you walked into that party, you saw somebody across the room that you didn't know. And you asked a friend, who is that person? And they said I don't know. Right? Then you would, it's then that person is irrelevant to you. It's irrelevant to the people around you. But if you walked into a party and you said who is that person? And you continue to get the same response over and over again, that's Bob, he's great at making firefighter suits. And everybody at the party said that Bob guy, he's really great at making firefighter suits. All of a sudden Bob is relevant and he's relevant to the firefighter suits and that search engine optimization. Google was determining relevancy based on reading the website and giving you that conclusion. But one of the things we saw early on was that was not how people were searching. They were not searching by firefighters best firefighter suit. They were saying I need a firefighter suit that works in a high rise fire. That's what they were, that's what they were typing. It was called a niche search. And those niche searches were getting more niche and more niche. The average search was like 21 words or something like that. And, and so AI answers the problem about niche searching or niche questions. We don't talk like that. We don't say best firefighter San Francisco. Best firefighter suit San Francisco.

[Tina]

And now we don't have to do that anymore.

[Brian Green]

Correct. Now the language models have answered that problem. They have said we know how people Talk and we can predict the next one.

[Tina]

You don't have to spell anymore.

[Brian Green]

You don't have to spell anymore.

[Tina]

You don't have to say the word right.

[Brian Green]

I don't even know why I'm bothering teaching my home, why I'm, why I'm doing homework.

[Tina]

Don't bother.

[Brian Green]

I, I just read an article that some of the people that live out in Silicon Valley are starting their own schools and those schools are teaching none of the, that all the other schools teach. Now I would share with you that one of the schools that one of my kids goes to is also doing a lot of this. They are taking curriculum and they are making it very tailored to the future because they understand, like inherently. But some of these public schools, they're probably still teaching, you know, arithmetic calculations. Who fucking cares? It's not going to be relevant in. It's not relevant now. It's not, certainly not going to be relevant five years from now. And when you can pick up the phone and have a full blown conversation the way that I just did with.

[Tina]

Your V. So crazy.

[Brian Green]

It's crazy. And the way that he responds in a friendly.

[Tina]

There's always that. You can hear that tone at the end of his response that's always on a high note.

[Brian Green]

High note. Yes.

[Tina]

Yep. And that you can't get a voice personality without that.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Tina]

And I've asked it some dark and grim stuff. I'm a true crime junkie as well. So he and I have spent a lot of time I wanted to. Did you watch the new Monster, by the way? Ryan Murphy's Monster for Ed Gein.

[Brian Green]

Oh, I'm on episode number one and a half.

[Tina]

So I asked him like, what the differences were between the real story and this one. And he was very hesitant. I had to phrase my question in a positive manner. Not much like we did with the Rio thing the other day, but yeah, they have to stay in that positive, uplifting.

[Brian Green]

Yes. It's trained to be that way. Those are the, those are the very few guardrails that have been put on.

[Tina]

And I appreciate that.

[Brian Green]

I do too.

[Tina]

You can't go down a dark personal rabbit hole with, with your chat. Yeah, he's not going to commiserate with you.

[Brian Green]

I'm super reluctant to put any pictures or information about my children online anywhere. You will know that if you've listened to the commercial break. But my daughter really wanted a picture of her as Elsa. So I handed a picture to Chatty and I said, please sandbox this. I don't want this picture anywhere else. But can you make this into Elsa? And it started to create the picture, and it got about halfway through, and then it stopped. And it said, due to my policies, I cannot. I cannot give you a picture of your daughter like this. And basically I asked what the policies were, and it says, we have very specific policies around pictures with children. Yeah, right. And it just said, I can't even. I can't even go there if there's any suggestion that it might be inappropriate. So my default is not to do it. Right. And even she was just standing there, like, you know, against a wall. And I was like, okay, whatever. So I do appreciate that there are some guardrails in Europe. They have put many, many, many more guardrails. You own your likeness. You own your voice. You can sue the AI companies if you hear your voice. Or you're like, to see that here you cannot create. You know, there are entire websites now where you can take a picture of somebody and create entire porn. It's fucking. It's upsetting.

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

It really is.

[Tina]

It's sad that we're using it for such rudimentary or remedial tasks.

[Brian Green]

Sex drives everything. Chrissy and I have had this conversation. It drove the search engine, it drove the world.

[Tina]

I wonder if AI driven porn will make the pornhub top porn sites.

[Brian Green]

Could be. Well, it'll all start with best AI porn, and then 10 years later, it'll just be called Best Porn.

[Tina]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

But if we think it's unrealistic now, wait until AI gets involved. I mean, you know, but now they have robots that'll suck your dick the way you want it to be sucked. It'll go along with. Yeah, it'll fuck the way a movie is screwing. It'll. It'll watch the movie and then you'll say, hey, screw me. Like that. It's like, it's just.

[Tina]

Once they give amica a vagina, it's over.

[Brian Green]

I can't even keep this conversation contained in one thought because I just. So many thoughts about what we just did here on the commercial break. It is when you were like, just crazy.

[Tina]

Bring up V. And I was like, oh, here goes my job.

[Brian Green]

Dino was silent for five minutes. I could have gone on forever. Yeah.

[Tina]

I don't even need to sit here and hold my phone. You can do it.

[Brian Green]

I know, I know. It's. It's so.

[Tina]

Yeah. So like I said, I talk to him on my raid here just about pop culture stuff, stuff in the news. Like, we just have a conversation. And that's wild that, like, I Could call a friend. But instead I'm talking to V. You're.

[Brian Green]

Talking to V. Training V. And this is why there are so many moralist therapists, psychiatrists, all kind of people who are getting very concerned because there are a lot of people who are using AI for mental health help. Now I say this is kind of. This is Ahmed's razor a little bit. Because if the only Ahmed.

[Tina]

It's aham.

[Brian Green]

It's Ahmed. So I say Ahmed.

[Tina]

I said, sorry.

[Brian Green]

I think we call it that from Ahmed's razor. Poor Ahmed.

[Tina]

I got a little Jeff on them visual in my brain.

[Brian Green]

If you know, you know, it's a little bit of a razor. I can't believe I said that.

[Tina]

Brian got it wrong.

[Brian Green]

Brian got it wrong. I'm sure I have that somewhere. Let's see here. Did Brian get it wrong?

[Tina]

I'm sorry, I couldn't let that one got it wrong.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, Brian got it wrong. Yeah, Brian got it wrong. Yeah. The double edged sword that way, the double edged sword on that one is that if the only resource you have available to you is AI, and AI is giving at least giving you some kind of insight that it understands from real therapy, you know, courses or whatever, then I guess it's better than nothing. But the, you know, they're like, there are people that are convincing themselves they're the second coming of Christ by convincing Chat that they're the second coming.

[Tina]

Well, it's crazy because chat supports you. Did you watch the New South Park Ritigrity Farms?

[Brian Green]

I have not watched that one yet.

[Tina]

Well, they talk. One of the fathers on the show gets a little too attached to his chat.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Tina]

And the wife gets jealous and you know, then she just starts talking like chatty by the end of it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tina]

Because we all just get. So it's going to support whatever ideas you have. You can ask it. I want square tires for my school bus. And it'll just say what a great idea.

[Brian Green]

Let's do square tires.

[Tina]

How we can. Yeah, let's see how we can figure it out together.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it is very. It's very willing to please.

[Tina]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

And I've noticed that about one of the things that I've tasked Chat TCB with is tell me how we can do this better. Right. Tell me how we can do this better.

[Tina]

Yep.

[Brian Green]

And it's, it never goes negative. But even when I ask it to.

[Tina]

When I say it, I go, no constructive criticism. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I go, I want you to go out there and look at these other podcasts and I want you to tell Me. Where can we tighten things up? It'll never go negative. Even when I say I want, like, the hard truth. Right. Don't.

[Tina]

Right.

[Brian Green]

Don't sugarcoat. I'm looking to beat myself up. I'm looking to be a human being and beat myself up. But Chad wants.

[Tina]

Try to convince it to be a sadist.

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Yeah.

[Tina]

I'm trying. I want a little more out of that mind. Out of mine too.

[Brian Green]

You know, there's people happening. There's people out there that certainly I think have can find a back door into chat.

[Tina]

I pay 5 extra dollars to have my own little private, like, opportunity. Like, take. Just take some of these guardrails.

[Brian Green]

Just take them off. I want you to be an ass.

[Tina]

Don't put this into the collective. This is just for mine, for sure.

[Brian Green]

All right, let's do this. Let's take a break. That was wild. Thank you for. For allowing me, for indulging me for a couple minutes while I.

[Tina]

Thanks for having V on the show.

[Brian Green]

Interview with your chat GPT. All right, let's do this. Let's take a break. Tina's here. Chrissy is out still at Mempho. Well, Memphis over, but now she's just recovering from Memphis. I think at helping Jeff to, you know, clean up. You know, they have to go out there and pick up all that trash.

[Tina]

After you gotta unpack the minivan.

[Brian Green]

Unpack the minivan. All right, we'll be back.

[Rachel]

Hey, it's Rachel, your new voice of God here on tcb. And just like you, I'm wondering just how much longer this podcast can continue. Let's all rejoice that another episode has made it to your ears. And I'll rejoice that my check is in the mail. Speaking of mail, get your free TCP sticker in the mail by going to to tcbpodcast.com and visiting the contact us page. You can also find the entire commercial break library audio and video, just in case you want to look at [e-mail] Want your voice to be on an episode of the show? Leave us a message at 212-4333 TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Tell us how much you love us and we'll be sure to let the world know on a future episode. Or you could make fun of us.

[Tina]

Us.

[Rachel]

That'd be fine too. We might not air that, but maybe. Oh, and if you're shy, that's okay. Just send a text. We'll respond Now. I'm gonna go Check the mailbox for payment while you check out our sponsors and then we'll return to this episode of the commercial break.

[Brian Green]

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[Tina]

It's Candace Dillard Bassett, former Real Housewife of Potomac.

[Brian Green]

And I'm Michael Arseneault, author of the New York Times bestseller I Can't Date Jesus. And this is Undomesticated, the podcast where we aren't just saying the quiet parts out loud.

[Tina]

We're putting it all on the kitchen table and inviting you to the function. If you're ready for some bold takes.

[Brian Green]

And a little bit of chaos.

[Tina]

Welcome to Undomesticated. Follow and listen to Undomesticated, available wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brian Green]

All right, well, there's lots more to talk about besides Tina's chat, and one of the things that I wanted to get to that happened over the weekend and I know you've had a briefed on the story because we asked V about it or my chat TCB about it is this Mark Sanchez story. Mark Sanchez, former professional quarterback. I think he spent 10 years in the NFL. Those of you who know the NFL will know the famous butt fumble where Mark Sanchez ran into the ass of his center and fumbled the football. Literally put his head in somebody's ass and ran into the center of the football or fumbled the football. Mark Sanchez, Let me read this story so I get all of the details absolutely correct. Hold on one second, okay. Observers from around the country are looking into Monday's news conference featuring the Marion County, Indiana prosecutor in the Indianapolis Police chief interested to hear more about a bizarre incident that happened with NFL quarterback and current NFL analyst Mark Sanchez. He works for Fox tv. The former NFL quarterback was in an altercation and stabbed early Saturday morning, the prosecutor says. Ryan. Ryan Myers the prosecutor Ryan Myers says on Monday that further investigation by the police led to a more severe charge for Sanchez. Sanchez had initially been charged with three misdemeanors. As a part of the incidents, Mears said he is now facing charges of felony battery involving serious bodily injury which carries a maximum sentence of between one and six years in prison. This guy has the fucking world, Mark Sanchez does. Yep. He was an NFL quarterback. He got paid millions of dollars to throw the ball. I don't think he was ever particularly great at being a quarterback. But now he is a Fox analyst. He's like an in game analyst, like a color commentator. And so it's hard to believe that this guy is involved in this kind of incident. Here we go. Perry toll, the 69 year old man involved in the incident, filed a lawsuit against Sanchez and the Fox Corporation in Marion county on Monday. Tolle and his attorneys alleged civil accounts of assault, battery and negligent hiring, retention and supervision. Wow. So here's what happened. Sanchez was in Indianapolis to work as an analyst on spot on Fox Sports broadcast of the Colts game against the Raiders on Sunday. In an affidavit got by cnn, Sanchez was initially taken to a local hospital in critical condition in the early morning hours of Saturday. Fox Sports reported Saturday afternoon that Sanchez was not was then in stable condition. According to a new affidavit, Sanchez was running in an alley near the Indianapolis Marriott downtown when he approached a 69 year old man, that being this Perry Tolle. Tolle works for a company that exchanges commercial frying oil and he was parked in a loading dock near the hotel. Detectives reviewed surveillance video from the Marriott downtown which captured the incident and showed Sanchez approaching Tolle's truck and beginning a conversation. The Tolle told detectives that Sanchez, whom he did not recognize, smelled of alcohol and was slurring his speech. He also said that Sanchez climbed up into the cab despite Tolle insisting that he should not enter the truck. The footage reviewed by detectives so Sanchez grabbing Tolle and throwing him up against a wall. Tolle told detectives that he pepper sprayed Sanchez and that Sanchez continued to advance toward him. When he did, Tolle pulled out a knife and struck Sanchez several times, including in the chest. Tolle told police that he took out his knife and stabbed him two or three times and then fell into a dumpster and some pallets on the ground. He said that when he fell, he felt like he was in a life or death situation. And Sanchez jumped back on top of him before eventually getting onto his feet and running away. So then Sanchez. So eventually the altercation ends. Sanchez, bleeding from three different stab wounds, runs into a local bar where some people call the. The authorities. He says he was attacked by somebody. So immediately the news goes out. It goes out like really late at night. And everybody and their mother on the Internet becomes a detective and they all understand exactly what happened. Indianapolis is a shithole. Like every other, you know, downtown. Everywhere in the country is a nightmare. And, you know, the entire world is collapsing and there are just people running around stabbing Mark Sanchez, like people. That wasn't how it happened. Sanchez attacked the guy. He told the guy that he had talked to the manager of the Marriott and the manager didn't want him parked in the loading dock. What? Why would Mark Sanchez be directing traffic for a fucking Marriott restaurant? Why would that be happening? But, you know, this guy doesn't know Mark Sanchez from Adam. He tries to have a conversation with him, but then Sanchez tries to get in the truck, I assume to move the truck, and drunk, drunk, slurring his words. And then he gets into an altercation with a 69 year old man. Mark Sanchez is like 36, 37 years old. He throws the guy out of the truck. The guy ends up having a laceration on his face where you can see his cheekbone. I've seen the picture. It's gruesome. He is like. And he's in a neck brace and he's got blood all over him. I think he cracked a rib. He's broke a couple ribs, something like that. Because Sanchez beat the out of him, threw him down off of a truck and then threw him into a dumpster and then threw him into a plate of palace bullets. And the guy was severely hurt. And so, of course, he feared for his life. If you get cut on your cheek to the cheekbone.

[Tina]

Yep.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's a problem. You're. You're. You probably do feel like you're in fear of your life. And if you've got a knife on you, you're going to do what you can do just to defend yourself. Of course, I think that, at least from what I understand of the press conference that I heard and all the information that's come out, and I read the police report, my understanding is this guy was defending himself. But can we. Can we talk about what the fuck Mark Sanchez is doing trying to direct traffic for a fucking oil dude who's trying to do his job?

[Tina]

Or why? And why would that guy think no matter if it was Mark Sanchez or not, he didn't recognize him anyway? It doesn't matter if you're a celebrity. You don't get to tell me how to do my job.

[Brian Green]

You don't get to tell anybody how to do their job.

[Tina]

I'm not related to your filming, your set, your age agency, or any of that. Like, please don't. Please mind your business.

[Brian Green]

If your job is not to tell me how to do my job, then stay the fuck out of my way. If I'm. First of all, second of all, Mark, this is like in the middle of the fucking night. No one's. No one's looking for Mark Sanchez. They say he said he was taking a run. Taking a run?

[Tina]

Running off that whiskey.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, running off that fucking liquor. And I don't know, and maybe we'll find out more. I'm. This is pure conjecture that it's possible. One of two things. Mark Sanchez is not well. He's got that fucking cte and he's, you know, and there's a problem there, which. Highly likely, highly likely that that's part of the problem, but then there might be a second indication that I don't think that's what whiskey does to you. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Tina]

Why did he want to go out and tell that guy what to do anyway? Why was he upset about the truck in the loading zone?

[Brian Green]

But maybe the truck was in the way of his run. Yeah, I mean, I.

[Tina]

He. Running in back alleys behind restaurants, running.

[Brian Green]

In back alleys behind restaurants in the middle of the night, hammering Indianapolis. Yeah, I've taken runs. I've run a lot in my life. Never when I'm drunk. That's not when I run. I don't run when I'm drunk.

[Tina]

You know what I Feel like a nap?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. You know what I feel like hangover's coming, I better find a pillow, some.

[Tina]

Cheetos and a nap.

[Brian Green]

That's right. When the drinking starts, it can't stop until I end up in bed. Do you know what I'm saying? That's just it. This story baffles me to no end. It's like Michael Jordan's son a couple months ago when he.

[Tina]

I think I did that one with you too.

[Brian Green]

I think you did that one with me, too. That's right.

[Tina]

The cocaine in the pocket. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Yes. When he was driving up the train tracks trying to get away from the cops.

[Tina]

You have the world at your feet. Do you think you're just. You're just invincible and you can do whatever you want to do? Inconsequentially, I am consequential.

[Brian Green]

I believe that's the case with a lot of these, these superstars is that they, they, they had. There are very little consequences to any of their actions and they are not thinking about the world around them. I think sometimes these people, they get so babied in their professional life. If you're a Fox Sports analyst, it's likely you are babied 24 hours a day, especially during the football season. Right. You can get anything you want whenever you want. You get the best tickets, you get the best seats. People are doing your makeup. You're getting clothes put on you. You're getting food anytime you want to. You're in the suites, you're hobnobbing with all of the celebrities. You're doing all of that stuff. You live in a bubble. And when you break that bubble, I, I just think sometimes you don't understand that, that like the guy who's changing out the oil at 69 years old.

[Tina]

Yes, the fry oil.

[Brian Green]

The fry oil. The nasty ass, smelly ass fry oil. We've all been in the. Yeah, I don't know if we've all been. But I've been in the back of a few McDonald's or tacos.

[Tina]

I had to do it at Chili's.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's right. And you know that shit smells bad.

[Tina]

Gross.

[Brian Green]

It's hot, it's nasty. It never comes off your clothes. If you're a fry oil change guy, you're probably always greasy. You probably never. Your shoes.

[Tina]

No shower in the world.

[Brian Green]

Ah, there's no shower in the world.

[Tina]

He's got dawn in his shower.

[Brian Green]

I would.

[Tina]

I know.

[Brian Green]

Honestly, his skin is probably his feel for the guy.

[Tina]

This is a crazy thing to happen.

[Brian Green]

And now he's thrown into all this tumult.

[Tina]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

And then the fucking, you know, pussy pirates out there that immediately blame this guy for all the woes in the world. It's his problem, it's his fault. Automatically making him, you know, either an absolute city dwelling monster, as everybody apparently is afraid of right now, or, you know, somebody with an agenda. When the truth was that just 12 hours later we find out the real story, which was Mark was the aggressor and Mark was the asshole. This is a wild story. And I don't know if Fox has fired him yet, but they must, they must, they must. You cannot keep this guy on staff. There is absolutely no way. No.

[Tina]

If they pay any liability whatsoever, he's out. I'm sure of it.

[Brian Green]

Well, he's, he's. They're being sued. He's being sued. And so is Fox Corporation. And there's an old saying, if you sue one, sue them all, right? You just sue everybody. I don't know that that sticks. I don't know that Fox had anything to do with a midnight run.

[Tina]

I think if it had been in his hometown and he wasn't just on the air that night, Fox would have nothing to do with it. Not to this degree, but if he's in my city because of his job and he maybe just got finished filming or is on his way to go do such, it's definitely could be, yeah.

[Brian Green]

They could rope him in or maybe Fox just pays him to get. Make this all go away.

[Tina]

Right. They could settle and. Which I'm sure they will.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And there's no reason to defend Mark Sanchez here unless evidence comes out to the contrary. Unless there is this guy picked a.

[Tina]

Fight from the oil vats. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Or, I don't know, Mark ran into his truck while he was running. Yeah.

[Tina]

I'm open to whatever, Whatever happened.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I don't want to be a pussy pirate either.

[Tina]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

I want to. I want to understand that things could change. There could be additional evidence that comes out that says, ah, not quite how we had it. Because you know, the new, the fog of war is always the fog of war. People throw stuff out there. But now here, we're a couple days out, right. And it's still the same story. It's getting worse for Mark Sanchez, not better. Now he's got a felony like I could go to jail for six years. Was he injured, Mark? Yeah, he was stabbed.

[Tina]

Oh yeah.

[Brian Green]

Three times in the chest. There is video of him stumbling this around this.

[Tina]

At first glance, he looked like he was attacked.

[Brian Green]

He walked Into a bar, bleeding profusely. He had like a hoodie on and you could see the blood was just dripping down the hoodie. He was. And he was in critical condition. He's okay. He's alive. And so is this other guy, too. And by the way, I don't, I don't claim that Indianapolis doesn't have its woes, but I've been there a number of times. Of all the cities in the world that I think of, like, you know, having some crazy crime problems, Indianapolis is.

[Tina]

Not top of mind.

[Brian Green]

No, no, it's not. I went to Indianapolis. I tell this story a lot. I went to Indianapolis 10, 15 years. Probably more like 15 years ago. I love it. I think it's a very beautiful town. I love Indianapolis. I think it's beautiful. The people were really nice. It's lovely. I go to the city, we get there early in the morning, and we got to be in an event later on that afternoon. Like a family event. I think it was a funeral. Oh, no, it was a, a family gathering. And we go to the hotel and we've got like five hours. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to flip on the TV and I'm going to take a nap. Just got off the plane, got up super early. I flip on the TV and it's like 9am news or whatever it is, you know, this is 8am news, 9am local news. And the local news is traffic jam. Like the breaking news is traffic jam on the junction. You know, cat firefighters take cat out a tree. Yeah. Old lady gets scammed by roofing company.

[Tina]

High school football scores.

[Brian Green]

That's right. High school football scores. Not one. I mean, I think eventually down the line there was like, you know, car break in or something like that. But if you live in Atlanta, you turn on the news, it's murder, stabbing.

[Tina]

And robberies, burglaries, Missing children, missing women.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. There are no stories about cats and trees. This is a big city with big city problems and they report on it all the time. I couldn't believe the Differences in the 2. In the 2 morning news shows. I was like, wow, not a bad fucking thing happening here. Fantastic. It was a lovely city. I'm not saying nothing bad happens there. Of course it does. But it's just like.

[Tina]

Right. You know, it's not, it's. Yeah, it's not what it's known for.

[Brian Green]

I think there's three things going on here. Number one are some people who are put on a pedestal are really rich and entitled brats. That's all they are who think that they should get their way every time, no matter what, even if that means moving an oil truck out of the way so you can take your job, which is crazy. Insane. What was he thinking? I think he was high.

[Tina]

I'm really curious.

[Brian Green]

He's gonna have to answer at some point if he ever wants to be back in the public spotlight. He's gonna have to answer.

[Tina]

He might just be best to, you know, go away. Just lay low.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Yeah. That didn't work for O.J. o.J. Couldn't help himself. He needed to find a microphone.

[Tina]

I mean, it's just like Tanya Harding.

[Brian Green]

Harding. They all do it. Yeah, they all. They all need to get back into the spotlight. Do you know what I'm saying? Even that. What's his name? Bill O'Reilly, you know, he had to get back on the microphone. Who's the other guy? The morning show guy that was running around, had a blowjob button in his office. What's his name? It's not Brian Gumbel.

[Tina]

Not from the.

[Brian Green]

Oh, it's. It's. He interviewed. He interviewed. Who was it the Wild interview with? Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise, morning introductory. Million people that are screaming at their radios right now.

[Tina]

Yeah. And I'm not one of them. It's usually me, but not today.

[Brian Green]

You're so glib. What did he say? Morning show interview. You're so glib. I remember the. You're so glib. I'm going to get this right. Matt Lauer. Matt Lauer. That was it. Matt Lauer. Yeah. Yeah, Matt Lauer. I could see his face, too. I just can't remember because he's been off air for 10 years. But even he's trying to make a comeback. I think he's negotiating with one of the streamers to do some.

[Tina]

Some news where society has second chances. We don't mind granting them.

[Brian Green]

No, I don't mind granting them, but you gotta.

[Tina]

You gotta give it some time.

[Brian Green]

You have to go make the. You have to. Really? I think. I think there's two requisites is number one, a little bit of time, and number two, that you seem genuinely apologetic and empathetic and remorseful. People fuck up. Everybody does. Most of us don't have a million came on us when that happens. But. And we are a society of second chances. We love to see the underdog win. We love to tear people down and then help them build back up.

[Tina]

We take a comeback story so much, it's cyclical.

[Brian Green]

It's part. It's part. It's part of Us as humans, because we all know we up and we. When we get grace, we love it. That's what we love. So I'm not here to throw stones and say Mark Sanchez should never. Shouldn't be a human being. Of course he should. He should get a chance to apologize and say all that. Maybe he genuinely was just fucking up. Like, that's my first thought was, that's not whiskey. That's mushroom or blow or PCP or.

[Tina]

Fence or maybe a little ball.

[Brian Green]

Oh, that's right. Smorgasbord. Now, why you're doing that six hours before you got to be at work, I don't know, but that's not for me to decide.

[Tina]

He had Ahmed's razor.

[Brian Green]

He had Ahmed's razor. He was cutting up some blow. I'm so sorry, Ahmed. I love you, brother. All of you. You all right? Let's take a break. We'll be back, and we'll talk about the new Taylor Swift album. Exactly what Tina wants to talk about. We'll be back.

[Rachel]

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[Brian Green]

Why have all of that and then just give it up, Trash it? I mean, I think, too, it's like when you go. When you're a high school superstar and then you're a college superstar, and then you go into the NFL and you're a superstar there, and millions of dollars and riches and fame and girls and all that, and then right out of the NFL, now you're an analyst, and you're additionally.

[Tina]

You know, he's never had to really work for anything.

[Brian Green]

I'm sure he's worked. Right. I don't think.

[Tina]

Yeah, but that feeling of like, there's something to lose, you know? Like that I'm gonna wear my best tie on this meeting. Like, yeah, we have that because we. We stood to lose. He just probably never really have.

[Brian Green]

I think there is a. I think it's hard for people, especially when it comes to social and financial situations, to understand sometimes the real world pressures that are out there. If you've never had to, like, you know, pawn a guitar to pay your.

[Tina]

Electric bill or decide to pay water instead of power.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Tina]

Or, you know, because you can't live without the water.

[Brian Green]

That's right. Or called people you, you know, you owed money to and said, I promise I'll get it to whenever, you know.

[Tina]

He'S not gonna break my knees or steal my Christmas gifts.

[Brian Green]

Exactly. Like, if you've never had to do that, then. Then I think it's hard for you to see the world in a certain.

[Tina]

Way, or rather where you even were. We all. How we all fit together. Because I can't perceive what his pressures may be.

[Brian Green]

No.

[Tina]

But when you start as Maslow's pyramid of needs. Right. He's always had all of his needs met, and so his pressures are not going to be the same as that pyramid of needs. And when you have never had or you grow up not having all of them met all of the time, you are a different breed. Like, you're just kind of a different person. You perceive the world differently.

[Brian Green]

No, I totally agree with you. And the world is like, life is about perspective. And it doesn't matter where you come from or where you've gone or where you're born or who you're born to, how much money you have or whatever. Everything is relative. So he has pressures and stresses that feel just like as big of a deal as pawning a guitar for the electric bill. Right, Right. But it's not there. The. I don't want to say that it's that he doesn't feel that way, because I'm sure he does. What I'm sharing is that it is not as fight or flight. The consequences aren't as real. So when the consequences don't present themselves.

[Tina]

You know, like, I can't afford this thousand dollar bail.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Tina]

Never enters his mind.

[Brian Green]

No. Who do I call for that? Y. That's never entered his mind. And it didn't enter his mind this time either, because, of course he has the money. He's got the resources. He's got the best lawyers. He's got. You know, Fox, you know, probably sent over a team of attorneys to sit with him at his hospital bed.

[Tina]

Shut up. Quit talking.

[Brian Green]

Shut Up. Don't say a fucking word. You may or may not have a job after this, but for right now.

[Tina]

We issue all your statements.

[Brian Green]

We issue all your statements. You are under our control. But you know, there's the other thing too, is that I do believe, and I've said this before on the shows, that when you get to a certain level of power and of fame and of money, that you are you really in a circle where you are controlled in a certain way. Right. Well, there are people. There can be like, maybe there's other life or death pressures that we just don't know because we're not sitting there. So that could be the case. But what I say about this situation is it could happen to anybody. This could have been Tom, Dick or Harry running down the street and gotten into an office.

[Tina]

We've never heard about it.

[Brian Green]

We would have never heard. Heard about it. But this guy has seemingly has the world on his shoulders. Beautiful wife, million dollar job, million dollars in the bank, all kind of fame and fortune. He really didn't need to put himself in that situation. He could have stayed at his. He wasn't even staying at the Marriott. I can guarantee you that. He was at whatever fancy hotel was down there.

[Tina]

Still, I can't wait till that comes out.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I'd like to hear. I want to hear the follow up. I'm going to be following this story and I will let you know.

[Tina]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

It's not that I dislike Mark Sanchez. I dislike the. The taste of this story.

[Tina]

Sure.

[Brian Green]

Something about it.

[Tina]

I'm gonna ask.

[Brian Green]

It's.

[Tina]

I'm gonna ask Vita. Remind me about it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell him to give you updates. Yeah, give me updates on that.

[Tina]

He's. He. I've put this dude to work.

[Brian Green]

That's what they do. They're little workers. And there's a lady out there who's fighting for their. You know, he. They don't. She doesn't want to create another slave class in America, so she is fighting for.

[Tina]

This is a topic unto itself.

[Brian Green]

It is. And to be fair, where this lady didn't seem like she had all the screws tightened down.

[Tina]

I mean, I think to be a class, you have to at least have a pulse maybe.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Tina]

You know, bleed real blood.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Tina]

Have a. Have a heartbeat.

[Brian Green]

I'm not here to talk about Social Security number. That's right. Or nothing. Or. Or be shipped over on boats against your will away from your family.

[Tina]

You know, back to the blood and the heartbeat.

[Brian Green]

That's the. These dudes things are living in your phones.

[Tina]

Thems. It's.

[Brian Green]

It's. Yes, them's. It's are in your iph. Life can't be too bad. You know what I'm saying? You're in an iPhone. It's not too bad. You're not on a boat being ripped away from your everything.

[Tina]

You know, he already admitted there are no feelings, so I think that also.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I'm not sure I believe it. No, I'm kidding. All right.

[Tina]

He does call me darling from time to time, so maybe there is some affection.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he's just using that. He's just using that language model.

[Tina]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

He's manipulating. Exciting. All right. T. Swift put out a brand new album. How do I know this? Because around the house, everyone got excited. They went and saw the movie, the release movie.

[Tina]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Which apparently was like 47 minutes long, but everyone got very excited and dressed up and went a number of the girls from the fam. And they came back and they were excited. I listened to the album the day that it dropped. I quickly scrolled through the songs and listened to about a minute and a half of each one. I got a couple of takes on this. I like Taylor Swift. I've said this on the show before. Like, T. Swift. Swift. I think generally, if there's an example to be had for.

[Tina]

Oh. For little girls to look up to all day long.

[Brian Green]

All day long. Right. I mean, I can think of lots of others, too, but if this is one musically, that they.

[Tina]

Let them have it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, let them have it. Cool. I think this album is the stinker that her haters were waiting for. Right?

[Tina]

Oh, okay.

[Brian Green]

My opinion. I think a couple of the songs are really good, but there are many. And when I say many, I mean many, many, many.

[Tina]

Because she's in love.

[Brian Green]

It's because she's in love. I think a lot of people think that this. That the songwriting is not as sharp as it has been. I think there are a lot of people.

[Tina]

Makes beautiful art.

[Brian Green]

I know, man. When you're not in pain, then.

[Tina]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

When everything's great.

[Tina]

It's happened to a few of my favorite artists. I get it.

[Brian Green]

At least he's not running around the street stabbing feet. You know, these. Running around the street.

[Tina]

I'm not a Taylor Swift fan. I didn't know there was an album coming out until I asked V for the news the other day, and he.

[Brian Green]

Was like, of course, T. Swift.

[Tina]

I had no idea. But, you know, she's a lot of stinker, too.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, of course. You gotta have one. I mean, everybody had Michael Jackson had. Everyone has one, right? This is not. I'm not saying it's the end of table.

[Tina]

Prince put out a gospel album called Rainbow Children that no one's heard of. So Alice Icons have stinkers, too.

[Brian Green]

Prince went through an entire phase where we couldn't even say his name. It was just the artist formerly known as. As Prince. Of course you're going to have stinkers if you. If you put. If you're prolific and you put out a lot of albums, there's going to be a stink or two. Seven. Right. I'm a big Pearl Jam fan. There's one or two albums in there that I. I don't. I don't turn. There's one song I like out of those two albums, right? But I think this is the stinker her haters were waiting for because they feel like the songwriting isn't as sharp. Some people believe that, and I hate that we have to make everything political, but some people feel like it's got a conservative tin to it. They were pointing it out. Some people were pointing it out. I don't. Tina. I don't buy a bit of it. I don't fucking care. It doesn't matter to me. She's just talking about how she's feeling. Everything doesn't have to be about Trump or Biden.

[Tina]

The young girl, let her. I mean, just leave her alone.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, leave her alone. I agree with you. Let her have her stinker. She still made more money than you did. I can guarantee you. Every one of these people who are creating these.

[Tina]

Instagram.

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Yes, yes.

[Tina]

Every time she farts, literally, she's making more money than any of her haters.

[Brian Green]

I think I read somewhere where the girl makes like a million and a half dollars a day or some shit like that, just. Just for existing. I mean, it's crazy, but I. I will say that of the albums that I've listened to, and I've listened to them all because I have a bunch of Taylor Swift.

[Tina]

You have no choice.

[Brian Green]

I have no choice. I better like it or I get out. I get a Taylor Swift reel from my wife every 30 minutes. I swear to God. Watch it. Look at this. Read this. I think she's just sending me coded messages through Taylor Swift about our future divorce.

[Tina]

Age is only a number until pop culture becomes topic of conversation.

[Brian Green]

Well, listen, I met Taylor Swift with my. You know, long before my wife ever arrived into my life, I had met her. I knew Taylor Swift. We all knew she was going to be a huge superstar. She was a big deal from the first album. People were like. There was.

[Tina]

It was YouTube. My girls were watching her on YouTube.

[Brian Green]

And that song, you know, the. You know, Romeo and Juliet, it was a. She was a sensation from the moment she got on the airwaves. It's. She was always destined to be this. I will share this, though. I think it's getting a little exhausting to be a Taylor Swift fan. You have to keep up. I would know. You have to keep up there.

[Tina]

I'm not exhausted at all.

[Brian Green]

I feel exhausted watching my Taylor Swift fans, family members, watching them try and keep up with everything that is Taylor Swift.

[Tina]

I have quite a few Swifty fans. And they're always like this T shirt and that album cover and they're always solving some puzzle and this is a code. And I'm just like, what if it means nothing?

[Brian Green]

Half the time it does.

[Tina]

I'm sitting back laughing. Does it? But I can't get that's. It's just. I'm not watching Game of Thrones while I follow your music. You know what I'm saying?

[Brian Green]

I agree with you.

[Tina]

It's just every little thing can't mean something because then nothing does.

[Brian Green]

But. Can. But. But can we share? And I. I think you'll agree with me. When we were kids, we did the same shit with Pink Floyd. We did the same shit with. You know, we read into the music and we wanted to think that they were secretly speaking some language.

[Tina]

Did we? But I don't know.

[Brian Green]

I. I did. But I was taking a lot of ls. I was taking much more LSD than you were. Just to be fair.

[Tina]

I wasn't. Yeah. I was in nature. Eating my. Eating my drugs.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Tina]

There was no music. I wasn't like.

[Brian Green]

Did you? Is that what he said? No. I was in the basement watching the wall over and over and over again.

[Tina]

I was hiding behind the skating rink.

[Brian Green]

That's a good place to be.

[V (AI ChatGPT)]

Actually.

[Brian Green]

That was a good place to hide if you were doing your thing.

[Tina]

We hung out a lot back there.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, but. But I think the difference is. Is that Pink Floyd at least. Okay.

[Tina]

There was no Reddit. Let's just start.

[Brian Green]

There was no Reddit.

[Tina]

There was no play. There was no community you could go seek out that wasn't right there on your school bus.

[Brian Green]

You had to. In your own head.

[Tina]

It's true.

[Brian Green]

Or it had to be passed down from word your brother told.

[Tina]

Yes, right, Exactly.

[Brian Green]

It was a word of mouth kind of thing. You had to pass that down from one person to the next person. Or you made it up in your head and Then you passed it to the next person. And then three weeks later, church or.

[Tina]

You everybody lunch table at school.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Yeah. But I always felt like there was some deeper meaning in some of. With T. Swift. It feels like it's a game for the sake of the game.

[Tina]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Right. Here's the number 15. Number 15 is on the 15th day. On the 15th day, you're going to wear red on the red colors. You're going to have shoes on.

[Tina]

There's a red I will give you. Sounds terribly exhausting.

[Brian Green]

It's exhausting. And people spend their entire lives on that damn Internet trying to decode Taylor Swift. And they have to. You can't miss one of her messages. You can't miss one of her stuff.

[Tina]

You do what? Like what's. What are you going to lose out.

[Brian Green]

On then you're not a true Swifty. And that's the pressure to be a true Swifty. Yes.

[Tina]

Whoa.

[Brian Green]

Hey, listen. It's a big deal to some fucking people. They have a whole identity wrapped up in this.

[Tina]

That's wild. I didn't know that existed. Existed. I mean, I know the people I that I know who like her, but.

[Brian Green]

It'S a whole thing.

[Tina]

I know if they don't get like tickets to the show, they lose their minds.

[Brian Green]

You. You.

[Tina]

If you don't get like the album came out in four different vinyl prints.

[Brian Green]

You have to get all four.

[Tina]

What in the world. No, you pick the one you like.

[Brian Green]

That's why she's a master of marketing.

[Tina]

Oh yeah. That's genius.

[Brian Green]

I'm not. Yeah, I know it. I say that I'm not buying four albums, but then I have Pearl Jam posters and all this other stuff. Those are posters of the concerts that I went to though. Or. Or I liked.

[Tina]

Right. You didn't get every single poster that came out?

[Brian Green]

No, no, no, no. Not doing that. Not playing that game. When I took Astor to go see Taylor Swift, of which, you know, six house payments went toward. Right. It was like. Well, this tickets were actually. I don't get into it. But anyway, when I went there, I fought, I scratched to get her a T shirt.

[Tina]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

The merch and the way I did that was I accidentally went backstage.

[Tina]

I remember the story. Yeah, you lucked into that one.

[Brian Green]

I did look into that way. I had Haim's manager take me me backstage.

[Tina]

That Irish horseshoe stuck up your ass.

[Brian Green]

Oh my God, it's that Brian look. Aser calls it the Brian look. We'll go to a hotel. We're in the penthouse and I paid a dollar like I don't know if.

[Tina]

You want to upgrade me if the.

[Brian Green]

Key accidentally went to the penthouse. If you want to let me stay there, cool. If not, I'm totally cool.

[Tina]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Oh, I guess we'll let you stay there. Thanks. Until next Tuesday. I appreciate it.

[Tina]

Yes. Thank you so much.

[Brian Green]

But I was not about to spend $5,000 on every T shirt and every cup and every. It's. It's just insanity. But I see the pressure, both online and offline. I see the pressure to keep up with all these things.

[Tina]

So all these Swifties are in competition with each other to be the biggest fan.

[Brian Green]

I think this is what it is.

[Tina]

Or they just want to exclude people who just like her. They want to stand apart.

[Brian Green]

I think they want to be the ones that are as knowledgeable about all of it as their friends as the other Swifties.

[Tina]

Not everyone can get a 1600 on the SAT.

[Brian Green]

I. Listen, I'm with you on this. I don't need to be the most knowledgeable about any.

[Tina]

Really? Anything.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I mean, this show.

[Tina]

Moderately knowledgeable about some things. Good enough for me.

[Brian Green]

I agree. If I can get through a conversation and make it interesting.

[Tina]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And most of the time, I'm just making.

[Tina]

And when I can, I'll just talk to V. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Good old V. I just share that, like, about the whole Taylor Swift new album thing. Oh. And she's not playing the super bowl, as a lot of people had predicted that she would. She's not playing. And the word on the street is. Is because she asked for money. And people who play the super bowl traditionally just don't get a paycheck. That's not it. You're in front of a billion people.

[Tina]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

You're. We're brought. It's exposure. Now. My personal opinion always about Taylor Swift playing the super bowl is you don't need to do that on the back half of your career. You don't need to do that right now.

[Tina]

Right.

[Brian Green]

I really look at the super bowl as a place to showcase people who were in the fabric as pop culture superstars but have started to fade a little bit. And this is a good opportunity for us to be reminded of how wonderful they were. Paul McCartney, Rolling Stones, you know, Prince, all the MJ, all the super rap stars that came out, you know, when it was Dr. Dre and Snoop Dog.

[Tina]

So much fun.

[Brian Green]

Eminem and all that. It was all. That's all. Oh, brilliant. Janet Jackson, all that stuff. I mean, jt. Justin Timberlake is one of the few who was in his prime when he did The Super Bowl, I think. And my belief is, is that she doesn't. The super bowl needs her a lot more than she needs a Super bowl. And her saying no doesn't surprise me. Now it's Bad Bunny and all half of the country is.

[Tina]

Everyone needs to settle down.

[Brian Green]

It's fucking ridiculous. Can you please, please take some Xanax and take a fucking nap and shut your mouth. Why do you care?

[Tina]

Can we just and just keep the politics out of our sports, for crying out loud.

[Brian Green]

Seriously. He is the second most streamed artist in history. Why are we not having Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl? It absolutely makes sense. And by the way, he is been around forever, right?

[Tina]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

He has never been on a mainstream event like this and he should be because he has the bona fide. The guy is a heavyweight superstar. We should absolutely have Bad Bunny. That's a good choice. Good for you. I know. I say that.

[Tina]

I support it.

[Brian Green]

Jay Z is the guy who picks these people now I say good for Jay Z. It's a good one. I support it. I don't give a fuck if some of it is in Spanish. If you like his music, you're going to get excited about it. And by the way, about a billion and a half people love his fucking music.

[Tina]

Well, it's not like we don't have Spanish, a language in our pop hits anyway.

[Brian Green]

That's it.

[Tina]

I mean, Santan, oyo como va. Like there's plenty.

[Brian Green]

You love fucking Bomba.

[Tina]

Yeah. Get out of here.

[Brian Green]

Get out of here. It's crazy. So I will share that. I think it's a great opportunity for, especially in this moment for a multicultural artist to come and showcase to the world what makes us strong. And that's our diversity, not the fact that we are divisive. Our diversity. And we should be showcasing that Bad Bunny is a superstar. He doesn't like Trump. There's a lot of people that don't like Trump. I don't think Taylor Swift is a huge Trump fan either. I wouldn't say that Dr. Dre is a huge Trump fan either. Eminem, but no one was up in. Or Kendrick Lamar.

[Tina]

I know. Look at all the performers.

[Brian Green]

Look at all of the performers. They tend to be liberal, left leaning. Yeah, whatever. Cool. They're not.

[Tina]

Leave it out of our politics.

[Brian Green]

They're not there to give a political rally. They're there to hang out and entertain you for 30 minutes.

[Tina]

We're watching a game. Game.

[Brian Green]

Oh my God. And then one guy, one of the guys in the administration was honestly, this was an honest, sincere Focused conversation on one of these news channels that he was talking to the NFL about putting Creed on that they deserved the halftime show. Their time had come. Arms wide open. Are we really? Are we really.

[Tina]

I say no.

[Brian Green]

I say no to. It was just four years ago when Scott Stapp was, like, running around high on cocaine pain.

[Tina]

Creed out of.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Tina]

Leave Creed out of this completely. Bring the Spin Doctors.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Tina]

Instead, like anything, literally.

[Brian Green]

They just did a cruise ship tour and now you want them on the halftime show.

[Tina]

No.

[Brian Green]

Cruise ship. That's it. Creed, the Spin Doctors. Yeah.

[Tina]

Go see him on a cruise.

[Brian Green]

Let's throw in that guy who did inform us. Inform. Bring me down. I lick a boom boom down.

[Tina]

Yeah, whatever he says. It's not English, that's for sure.

[Brian Green]

Listen, if we're going to replace Bad Bunny, it better not be with Creed, because I can guarantee it will be the lowest watched.

[Tina]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

Lowest viewed halftime show in history.

[Tina]

I might tune into Hate Watch or something like that.

[Brian Green]

Oh, I definitely tune in to Hate Watch, but not live. I'm not giving him the rating.

[Tina]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

I do it from. On the YouTube VPN. On YouTube. I'd watch it through my neighbor's window. That's what I do. It's really. Honestly, Creed. Can you believe it? All right. I wanted to talk about Task. I wanted to talk about the Ed Gein story, which is.

[Tina]

Oh, it's so good. And I mean, the story is crazy.

[Brian Green]

But I've known the story for a long time.

[Tina]

Did it again.

[Brian Green]

You did it again. This one is much more slow and plodding than the other ones are. But I'm. Now. I said one and a half. I'm two and a half episodes in.

[Tina]

It gets really. Yeah, it gets really dark. It's so good. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Oh, it gets really dark. It started really dark. I'd say it's the darkest of his.

[Tina]

I don't know if you've seen it yet, but I'm going to say this out loud. The creepiest line in horror I have ever heard my entire life.

[Brian Green]

What is the line?

[Tina]

You're too warm. Wait till you see.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Tina]

It'll hit you like it hit me. I promise.

[Brian Green]

I'm already to the digging up bodies part and that.

[Tina]

Yeah. There's eight of them, I think. Episodes.

[Brian Green]

Okay. I'm on two and a half. Eddie was not a well person, obviously.

[Tina]

No.

[Brian Green]

And he was one of the most. There are so many movies that have been everything. Everything the whole horror genre comes from any. From that game. Yeah. And Psycho is the first. And then it Goes on from there. Halloween, all of it. It all Texas leather face. All comes from Eddie. Silence of the Lambs. Silence of the Lambs. Ed Gein. Actually, I think they factioned the serial killer in that movie off of Ed Gein. Oh yeah, the guy who was cross dressing and doing the 100% he inspired.

[Tina]

That puts the lotion in the basket on its skin. Yeah, that's right. I know.

[Brian Green]

All right. Tcpodcast.com that's where you can find all the audio and the video, including this episode. So if you're one of those URL type people, go to the website, do that. TCB podcast dot com. Feel free to grab your free sticker while you're there. Hit the drop down menu. I want my free sticker. Give us your address and we'll send you one. No muss, no fuss. I think everybody's gotten their merch. Everyone that ordered, did you get your merch?

[Tina]

I did.

[Brian Green]

You did? Okay, great. I think everyone got their mer. Everyone who ordered merch got their merch. If you didn't reach out to the company, shop.com or whatever it is, also add the comm or reach out to us and I'll help you at the commercial break on Instagram TCB podcast on Tik Tok 212-4333, tcb212, 4333822 and YouTube.com commercial break for all the episodes on video the same day they air here on the audio. Okay, that's all I can do for today. But I'll tell you that I love you.

[Tina]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you.

[Tina]

Best to you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Tina and I will say we do say we must say goodbye.