Astrid (2:42)

Yeah.

Brian Green (2:42)

I'd have such great intention. I'd be like, this eight ball's gonna last me all week. Little diddle here, little diddle there. Well, it's six o' clock in the morning. Next day you add an eight ball and Brian's right nostril. No more eight ball. It's gone. It's. It's wizardry. Oh. 16 Vicodin and some crank. Wow. Where did it go? I hid it in my closet. Oh, it's no longer in my closet either. It's down my gullet. I'll be up for days wondering where I get my next 38 Vicodin and eight ball of crank. That kind of resonates with me a little bit, because I do like to stockpile stuff. For some reason or the other, I like to stockpile.

Chris Joy Hley (3:33)

Yeah.

Brian Green (3:34)

I don't know. I'm just one of those guys. I'm not like a hoarder. I don't hoard stuff. As a matter of fact, I'm the opposite of a hoarder. I want to get rid of everything, but when it's important to me, when it's something that I use on a daily basis, let's say.

Chris Joy Hley (3:45)

That's so funny that you talk about this.

Brian Green (3:47)

Why?

Chris Joy Hley (3:47)

Because I just was thinking the other day, like, isn't it so funny when you think you're almost to the end of something? Say it's your toothpaste or your deodorant or something like that. You go out and go buy new stuff, and then that said thing lasts for, like, another three weeks.

Brian Green (4:01)

Yes.

Chris Joy Hley (4:03)

They're like, oh, I guess I didn't need that.

Brian Green (4:05)

You're so right. So Astrid and I, because of the 38 children that we have, we have to shop at places like Sam's and Costco for certain things, or else, literally, we would go broke on paper towels. Right. It's. They're so expensive.

Chris Joy Hley (4:17)

Right.

Brian Green (4:17)

Everything is expensive. There is no doubt inflation has taken its toll. And I understand what people say about the economy. But I still tell you. I will still tell you that Bagram is not in Alaska, in case anybody was asking you. Did you hear that? Now, Donald Trump did, like, a town hall. And he was talking about how Joe Biden, you know, bitcoin, he was talking about, he launched that platform. Did you see that on Twitter, Spaces, the other day?

Chris Joy Hley (4:42)

Well, I saw that. He's doing something with crypto.

Brian Green (4:44)

Yeah. He Launched it and it was amazing. And the funny thing is, I know the guy who hosted the Twitter space, Farouk Faro, might be how you say it. He was in clubhouse with us all the time. Faroak. Yeah, Farouk Faroak. And he hosted the Twitter space where Donald Trump, Don Jr, Eric and Baron announced this big crypto platform. It was a total disaster. I listened to it. Donald Trump has no idea what cryptocurrency is. None. And it was so clearly apparent on there. And he's the chief advocate officer or whatever. Anyway, he goes to this town hall and he keeps telling everybody five or six separate times that Joe Biden stopped the drilling in Alaska, look it up, Google it. And he said, bagram. Look it up. Google it. He said it five times. It's a fact. Google it. Bagram. Bagram is in, it's nowhere fucking close to Alaska. It's in Afghanistan.

Chris Joy Hley (5:39)

Oh my God.

Brian Green (5:40)

Anwar is in Alaska, which I'm sure is what he meant. But you know, listen, just like Biden, he gets stuff mixed up in his brain. The guy's old. Anyway, I, we have to shop at that Costco. And one of the things that I like to stockpile is nasal spray. Now, I know, don't get started. Everyone's got their Picadillo's, and this is one for me. I have allergies, terrible allergies. And they get worse every fucking year since I've lived here in Georgia. I had none when I got here. By the time I was 19, I had some. By the time I was 30, I had many. And now I'm just miserable for like four and a half months of the year. But nasal spray, especially that Zycam, does the trick. Who knows what it's doing to the inside of my nostrils. Sometimes I'm just bleeding in the shower. Sometimes my nose literally bleeds in the shower. And I'm like, oh, I probably have a tumor or something because of that zycam.

Chris Joy Hley (6:30)

It's too dry. Drying it.

Brian Green (6:33)

So I, I, so I will stockpile it and then I'll take it out of the little, the box that it's in. And I have these nasal spray bottles hidden all over the world. Yeah, there's three of them in here right now.

Chris Joy Hley (6:44)

Yeah, you've given me one before.

Brian Green (6:47)

And I had allergies. That's right. I said, I got one for you. I've got 30. They're somewhere.

Chris Joy Hley (6:52)

And you're like, do you want to use my nose spray? I was like, that's okay. And you're like, no, no, no, it's a brand new one.

Brian Green (6:56)

Yeah, it's new. I'm not going to give you one. I'm using. I don't even give my wife what I'm using. I'm like, let me get you now. When it's. Because you use it when you're not feeling well and who knows what you got that. Did he. He liked to stockpile sheets and lubes. And I have to say if. If true and always presumed innocent until proven guilty, but I do have to say if even a tenth of what the government is accusing him of is at all true, this goes down probably as one. He is one of the most insidious, serial, sexual, mental, emotional abusers and predators in history. In history. He.

Chris Joy Hley (7:37)

So awful.

Brian Green (7:38)

Yes. He had a conveyor belt. He had basically an assembly line going, like Ford had an assembly line going. And it's fucking terrible. And people let it go because they wanted to suck the dick of a celebrity or they didn't want to get involved because they were afraid of what would come down on them. I can't say that everybody. I can't say if you're. If you're working for Diddy as a maid and you're making $45,000 a year and that's feeding your children, that it's. That's a tough position to be in. And I can't think. I don't know what I do in that situation. I really don't. I don't know if I turn a blind eye or not. I'd like to think I wouldn't, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I wouldn't. Right at the end of the day, there are lots of people who had power and prestige who also turned a blind eye. And fuck those people. Yeah, those. I noticed there's no celebrities coming out saying anything about Diddy today. I don't know. I mean, besides 50 Cent and that girl from the. From the. Making the band. I don't see anybody else out there making a bunch of noise about Diddy. Probably because they showed up at his parties. They saw what was going on, may or may not have participated, but decided not to say anything because it's easier just to shut the up and live my life rich and famous. And that sucks. That sucks. It's pervasive in our culture. And all the different people who mitigated and mediated in the middle because they want to get a little closer to someone that was famous so they could say they flew on Diddy's plane or show up to this white party or Happen to be at his club at the same time he was. All that stuff is ego driven bullshit. And I don't accept it. I don't accept it. It's fucking horseshit. These women are now scarred for life and men scarred for life. And maybe, just maybe, some of you had a choice. Some of you had a choice. Maybe the maid who made $45,000 a year didn't had a choice between her children and saying something. And that's a tough position to be in. But I bet there's a lot of other people who were just hanger honors who had a choice because they weren't, they weren't getting anything from Diddy in the first place. And you.

Chris Joy Hley (9:40)

Well, I like to think that a lot of people didn't know the, the whole, the whole story. You know, they might maybe just thought like, maybe if the maid was there, she was just cleaning up some wild craziness. She didn't know exactly what was. How things were going down.

Brian Green (9:55)

Yeah. What about all these security guards? It's just like the Harvey Weinstein thing. All these executives and security guards and other sex secretaries and all these other people who never said Bill Cosby, all the doormen and all the drivers and taxi cabs that didn't say anything about the clearly distraught up woman who can't say her name in the back of my car that Bill Cosby just threw in the back of my cab. I mean, what, what? I'm sorry. I think if I had seen something like that, I would be like, I don't care. I'm going to say something to somebody. Yeah, right. Jeffrey Epstein, all that other bullshit. Anyway, I hope it changes. I hope this, I hope we as a society are going to turn a new leaf. I have been. And fuck Diddy's apology and fuck his alcoholism and fuck all his bullshit excuses.

Chris Joy Hley (10:42)

That is no excuse. There's no excuse.

Brian Green (10:44)

Like I said, I have been way fucked up so many times in my life, I can't count. And I have never abused a woman in any way, shape or form, ever, ever. Taken liberties, abused them, never. And, and I, and, and I know that for a fact because it's against my just core. It's against, it's against who I am. It's against my core. And now that I have girls as children, man. Oh, yeah. In other news, following up on another story we talked about a number of episodes ago, more things are exploding in Syria and Lebanon. Holy. Holy, wow. Just, just like the pure brass potatoes on the Mossad. I have to say I'm not Taking sides. Don't you know, I'm not going to get in the middle of that. That's a. That's a complicated mess. It never ends up well for people who start taking sides. I'll say it's complicated. That's what I say. It's complicated. And I don't like when people die or get hurt. I don't like it. And when anybody does. But I will say that this is something right out of a fucking movie.

Chris Joy Hley (11:48)

Yeah.

Brian Green (11:49)

I mean, this is like Mission Impossible type stuff. Like you. You go and find a way to get a hold of 4,000, 5,000 pagers, put bombs in them, put them back, and then.

Chris Joy Hley (12:04)

Months later, the whole, the whole weigh. The whole complication of it.

Brian Green (12:10)

Yeah, Chrissy. I mean, we can't even make an episode of the commercial break without something falling apart. Yeah. Turn on the road Caster, and there's some dude in the Musano just put 4, 000 bombs inside of papers, walkie talkies. Now I feel bad for people who are killed, maimed and their families or whatever. And I heard there were children involved too, which is never good. Poor kids. They always get the shitty end of the stick, don't they?

Chris Joy Hley (12:34)

For what? The adults.

Brian Green (12:35)

They always get the shitty end of the stick. Fuck that, that. I do have to say I'm still a little confused about the Ben and Jen situation, though. I see another picture come out today of the two of them together. Yes. And I'm like, what. What is going on? What in the Good.

Chris Joy Hley (12:51)

I know it's so crazy because, I mean, there was. They had not been seen to get. He wasn't even at her birthday party, like over the summer she was having. The summer of Jen, she was in Italy, she was in the Hamptons, whatever. He's nowhere. Then as soon as she puts forth, the divorce starts proceedings, he. Oh, they're back.

Brian Green (13:09)

Yeah, I know. It's like as soon as someone said divorce, he came running back.

Chris Joy Hley (13:14)

Like, was that not talked about before?

Brian Green (13:16)

You would think you'd have a conversation about divorce. Yeah, I've been through one. And there was a conversation. I'm divorcing you. Right. Like, it was pretty clear, right? I mean, you know, or I'd like a divorce or I wanted to or we should get a divorce. Like, yes, there was a conversation and it was pretty clear. And after that day where we, like where it was clear as day that that's exactly what was going to happen. There was no question marks, no going back. I didn't have sex with my ex, you know, And I know a lot of people do. Of course.

Chris Joy Hley (13:45)

People do this all the time and withdraw. Divorce. I see it in movies, but.

Brian Green (13:49)

Yeah. That Astrid watches. There's a lot of divorce people.

Chris Joy Hley (13:52)

But you would think that, like, it's not good for the long term.

Brian Green (13:56)

No, that was not healthy for your mental stability. Listen, I. You know, to each their own. And the. But you know, at the end of the day, like, unless your parents married and divorced each 30 times, how many times did they get more divorced?

Chris Joy Hley (14:17)

Got married three times. The first time and then the second divorce.

Brian Green (14:20)

Twice married three times.

Astrid (14:22)

Yes.

Brian Green (14:22)

Okay. I couldn't believe the story when I heard it. And when your mom was telling it to me, smoking cigarettes outside of Christmas.

Chris Joy Hley (14:27)

Right.

Brian Green (14:28)

I couldn't believe it. I was just flabbergasted. And I thought, well, love wins in the end. That's. That was my take on the whole situation, was that love wins, love rules. Let love rule. All that good stuff. But now, besides your parents, I've seen this minutiae in other relationships around me and people. And I've been in one.

Chris Joy Hley (14:46)

Yes.

Brian Green (14:47)

Where it's just, you cannot get away. The breakup and makeup. And breakup and makeup. But there was no legal papers involved. And I'd have to split the house with her. Right. Like, kind of did, actually. But the. The split the apartment. Right. With the one bedroom efficiency. But the reality is, like, I get it. I get how it can happen. But divorce, if you've ever been married, divorce is more final than a breakup. It just is. There's just something about signing legal pieces of paper or even saying the word divorce out loud. Like, I've never said the word divorce to Astro. I mean, of course we haven't been in many fights because she mainly ignores me. So even if I want to get in a fight with her, she doesn't let me. I'll be right back. Whatever you're talking about, keep talking about it and I'll be right back. Tomorrow. I'm gonna go to sleep.

Chris Joy Hley (15:36)

I'll be back at the shed.

Brian Green (15:38)

Hey, you know what happened on TCB today? I don't care.

Chris Joy Hley (15:41)

I know.

Brian Green (15:43)

Yes, I do, because I hear about it all the time. So when you say the word divorce, you're already in. Great. You're already in this.

Chris Joy Hley (15:53)

Yeah.

Brian Green (15:53)

Yeah. If you say the word divorce. That's my belief. And now I've been through this. We're. We're both a little longer in the tooth. So we know that if you say the word divorce out loud to another adult, you're in a serious relationship with married yeah. Then. Then there's some tough times going on. Yeah. And you don't say that word lightly. And I bet there's a lot of relationships where they do say that word lightly. I bet there's a lot of relationships where that word is said all the time. I'm gonna divorce you. You divorce? You don't know.

Chris Joy Hley (16:25)

Healthy ones.

Brian Green (16:25)

Yeah, healthy ones. Clear. The kind you see on Dr. Phil. The Healthy ones. The kind that end up in Judge Judy on either side of the right. Either side of the courtroom. But when you say that word, you. It's like pulling out a gun. You better be ready to shoot. Right. Because at least the way that I look at it.

Amber (16:48)

Yeah.

Chris Joy Hley (16:48)

And she did. She filed. And now back. I don't know.

Brian Green (16:53)

I don't know. Could this just be them, like, sorting out the last little bits? Like, okay, you know, we bought this friendly.

Chris Joy Hley (16:59)

Sorting.

Brian Green (16:59)

462.

Chris Joy Hley (17:01)

Oh, yeah.

Brian Green (17:01)

Million Dollar island together. And nowhere. Savannah, Georgia. Yeah, they did. They bought two houses. They bought one in Savannah, outside of Savannah, and then they bought one in LA, like for $35 million or something. God, I wish I had $5 million. I would be so happy. Those who say that money doesn't make you happy don't have money. That's kind of shit Brian says. Ah, Mr. American Express caller man, money doesn't. Money's not everything. It doesn't make you happy. I'm sorry. I used all yours. I can't pay you back. But I found out it didn't make me happy, so I don't know what to tell you. I'm on a journey.

Chris Joy Hley (17:46)

It's a learning lesson for everybody.

Brian Green (17:48)

Learning lesson for everybody involved. You don't give me any more money, and I won't give you any more money, and we'll call it a day. I'm on my own journey. Journey.

Chris Joy Hley (18:00)

Credit journey.

Brian Green (18:01)

Yeah, my credit. Journey. That's right. Anybody uses the word journey already pissing me off in my journey. Please. You know who went on a journey? The guy who first climbed Everest. That's the guy who went on the journey. Those two dudes who ran across the west of the United States. Those dudes went on a journey.

Chris Joy Hley (18:25)

Lewis and Clark.

Brian Green (18:26)

Lewis and Clark. You went to Starbucks and got offended because someone didn't make your mocha loca up the right way, spelled your name with two M's instead of one. It's not your personal journey. It's called life. And now Ben and Jen, they're on a journey.

Chris Joy Hley (18:43)

They are now.

Brian Green (18:45)

Give them that. If they say journey. If Jen Uses journey, which I'm sure she has in a million interviews, because it's all. It's so. It's so fashionable to say it's on my. I'm on my journey. Journey. And I get it. I get what you're saying. I've been on my journey too. But let's not use the word journey because it makes you sound like you went somewhere in. In my. In my private time, in my house, meditating in my amber combie and Fitch hole boxers with my holes in it, I found some enlightenment. That enlightenment was. I probably shouldn't apply for another American Express card. That's good. Thank you.

Christina (19:22)

That's good.

Brian Green (19:23)

I'm here. And you know what? You should figure out, Ben and J, Whether or not the two of you are getting divorced, because the rest of us want to know. Three weeks ago, I could give a shit less about Ben and Jen. And now all of a sudden, I'm wrapped all up in that. I'm like, wow, what are they up to? What's going on there? Because the more I see it, the more it just.

Chris Joy Hley (19:39)

Well, it happened very quickly, too. And they have the history from before when they were engaged, breaking off the engagement, being apart for the next 20 years. Now they're back and they were in love, and then they've broken back, back together.

Brian Green (19:55)

Back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back. Well, I mean, he was upset about the thing, so he started drinking a lot. And then he decided to go to a A. And she went her separate way and she was with P. Diddy for a while.

Chris Joy Hley (20:06)

She was.

Brian Green (20:08)

Makes you think. It makes you think because apparently this has been going on forever. Like, this has been going on the entire time he's been a celebrity. Okay, so where was. What was. What happened during the gen years? I think it might have only been one year. But what happened during those years? Didn't someone get shot? I think so.

Chris Joy Hley (20:28)

I think so.

Brian Green (20:29)

And, like, they got arrested, both of them. I believe they were both taken in for questioning or into custody or something. And somehow that all got fizzled out and got smoothed over some way, shape or form. But I do believe somebody got shot. And somebody got shot because of Diddy. Like, someone of his crew members shot her. So was Jenna freaking the sheets too, or. Or did he calm down because he was with a, you know, someone of his, like, celebrity and decided, well, this is, you know, this is. I better calm down a little bit. I don't know. We'll see. As it stands right now as we're recording, yeah, he is not going to get bail, but he is going, as we're recording, he is going to go in front of the judge again. And now he already offered them $50 million worth of real estate and $10 million worth of cash. I think it's a lot of money, man, but he's worth a billion dollars.

Chris Joy Hley (21:21)

Yeah.

Brian Green (21:22)

He offered the prosecutors and the judge $60 million total in collateral. I'll. I'll show up in court. His passports have already been taken away. He only asked to have the ability to travel from Miami to New York and vice versa. And now he's saying that he will only go down to Miami and to this penthouse he has in New York. And he will subject himself to having no female contact the entire time. He will even allow the government to periodically or whenever they want to come in and check the door records, the gate records at the private island he lives on, just to be sure that. No, I say if duty is really that freaky, he's going to be boating him in, like, in the middle of the night. You know what I'm saying? I don't trust that guy. I think jail is where he should. He should be let no more people be. Suffer under the hands of this. No, I mean, it really makes. It really drives me crazy, actually. Drives me crazy. Anyway, Ben and Jen, you know, I.

Chris Joy Hley (22:19)

He needs to be in jail. For the very least, the video that we saw, the violence and the kicking and the horribleness of just that, and then much less thousands of other things that are now being said.

Brian Green (22:29)

Cannot believe that it took almost two years for that video to come out. How many people were paid off?

Chris Joy Hley (22:37)

Right?

Brian Green (22:37)

How many people were paid off in order to keep that video? Because first of all, those kind of videos, I don't know about now, but my understanding is of security footage based on cameras that I use and cameras we all use, and cameras at gas stations and banks and all that, they get refreshed. 30 days. Yeah. Because if you kept every minute of security footage with like 30, 40, 80, 100 in a hotel, in a hotel like the one in Los Angeles, very potsy, ritzy hotel, you would. You would need server upon server upon server to keep that kind of data. We know we do the fucking commercial break. And I have like 16 servers just on the 600 episodes we've done. So it would cost a lot of money just to maintain that kind. So, number one, that video was likely saved moments after it happened. Number two, someone either blackmailed Diddy or got paid for it. And number three, it was kept hidden under Wraps until I. I'm assuming the authorities got a hold of it or the authorities started putting pressure on someone to release that. So. Yeah, like it. So there are so many people along the way that just covered it up and apparently Diddy just was happy to pay them to do so. And I'm telling you what. My neighbor has shitty Christmas decorations of blow up things and that's a crime against humanity. And I have a camera footage of it and no one's paying me for that. I'm willing to release it for a couple bucks. You want to see my neighbor's shitty Christmas decorations? Guy across the street can't put an air conditioning in his window. You let me know. I'm happy to. There are tactful decorations. Like my neighbor next to me, that guy, he does it right, you know, he puts a few blow ups and candy canes and lights on his things. Tactful. I like it. Then the guy across the street just has those things going all day long. He's not blowing leaves off his driveway. He's got those damn decorations that. I'm on a Christmas journey. You all right? Let's take a. Just a short break. Just like just a couple, couple minutes. We're going to hear from some sponsors. They pay the bills around here. They're wonderful people. And then we'll come back and Chrissy and I are. We're ready to talk more.

Chris Joy Hley (24:57)

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Chris Joy Hley (25:03)

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Brian Green (25:04)

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Chris Joy Hley (25:46)

Give me that. I've been instructed to cut it out.

Brian Green (25:49)

That's right. I put it on the table and the guy goes, I'll put. He has like a smelter under there. He just puts that piece of metal in there and he's like, I'm sorry, sir, the club's full and your American Express has been melted down to give to someone credit worthy. Attention in the airport. Attention in the airport. An uncredit worthy customer has tried to get into the Delta Club. His name is Brian Green and he's flying Next to the porta bodies in the Ryanair. We don't serve your kind on Delta. We're the only airline where hair weaves and guns aren't flying around. No Delta.

Chris Joy Hley (26:40)

Picturing you tried to, like, sneak into the other club around there.

Brian Green (26:48)

Ryan Air Club. What you want? Yeah, can I get in? Do you have a chime card? No. What you got? I got a prepaid Visa with Snoopy on it my mom gave me for Christmas. They'll do. The club is on the tarmac. It's in the bag. It's in the baggage area below the airport. Feel free to take a nap on one of the conveyor belt. 12 shouldn't be moving anytime soon. Feel free. I shouldn't make fun. Someone actually got diced up in one of those.

Chris Joy Hley (27:30)

Oh, my God.

Brian Green (27:32)

That's right. What was she doing? How did you make your way back there? Anyway, let's take a break. We got to hear from American Express. We be back.

Christina (27:40)

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Brian Green (28:48)

Well, he does like his dog. I never thought to get a sculpt. I mean, like, I was.

Chris Joy Hley (28:56)

Sculpture of blue.

Brian Green (28:57)

Yeah, sculpture of blue. My youngest thinks every dog is named Blue. So we're going to my mom's place. You know, we're at the cruise ship on land at the Sunnyside Retirement Resort. And we walk up these grand staircase in the front. Then we're, you know, going down the hallway and one of the older folks has sculpture of her actual schnauzer that passed away sitting outside. And it's got a little tennis ball, a real tennis ball. So it's a bronze statue, and it's got a real tennis ball, his tennis ball, sitting underneath there. So we walking by, and, you know, my daughter's like, blue, blue, blue. It's Blue Daddy blue, Daddy blue, Daddy blue. And she takes the ball, and then she keeps walking. And I'm. She's. She's behind me. It's like this big hallway. There's no one, right. What am I. Who's gonna catch her on the hover round? She's faster, right. And so we get into my mom's apartment, and she's got this tennis ball in her hand. She's doing this and this and this. We just playing with it. I don't think anything of it, because, you know, I got 38 children. I can't pay attention to everyone, what they're grabbing and who they. What they have. And then I go, miranda, where did you get that tennis ball? And she. Well, she's one, so she can't say. And I was like, huh, I wonder where that came from. So I grab it, and I asked my mom, mom, did you. Do you have this? You give this to her? No, no, no, no, no. Okay. So I put it in my pocket it. And I think, well, she. Maybe she. Oh, maybe she grabbed it from the statue. So we go back now, of course, it's lunch or dinner time there. 24 hours a day. They're always getting. Coming from or going to some kind of meal. Yeah. Because it's one of the only things they do, Right. It's their social hour or whatever. So I'm coming. And they're. The. The lady is literally standing out there on her walker like this, like, looking around. And I was like, oh, ma'. Am. And this is how I found out that that was a. That was the actual dog's ball. And I thought it was the cutest story that she told.

Chris Joy Hley (30:53)

Oh.

Brian Green (30:54)

Took a little bit too long. But, you know, I tried to pay attention. And for the kids, you know, I want to show the kids that I'm a good guy. So I think to myself, if I leave now, I'm an. And they're gonna see that. So just let me stick around. Yeah. So I just read in the papers episodes ago, we were talking about how I think there's a loneliness pandemic that's going on here in this country, possibly all over the world, and it's backed up by a lot of science. And there's a lot of people that are talking about this. Probably the most notable is Prof. G. Professor Galloway on Instagram. You can follow him. And I. So just for shits and giggles, I googled Tinder and I looked at the news category, right. And I see that there's a number of reports that are saying the dating sites are really struggling right now. They're really struggling to bring on new people.

Chris Joy Hley (31:40)

Okay.

Brian Green (31:40)

Because many people are rejecting the idea.

Chris Joy Hley (31:43)

I was saying that an app is.

Brian Green (31:44)

A good place to date somebody. It's just filled with misery and ghosting and shitty human beings, fake profiles, catfishing and all this stuff. And so Tinder specifically is trying to target college aged children because, you know, they got to get them young, so they get used to it. And then they, you know, they got to get the young people date the most. They got to get them comfortable with the idea that this is the way that you can find somebody. And listen, I'm sure there are lots of love stories, probably, probably hundreds of thousands of marriages that have come from Tinder and other. Yeah, my, my dad, his wife met on a dating app site, not Tinder. I will share that with you. It's the other one. You know, the one that's right for older people and for people like me. So this whole single thing, and then I was listening to somebody and I think there's been a lot of people have talked about this also. But I'm just getting hep to it now. There's a number of. If you look for it, there's a number of places out on the Internet that says sex robots will actually start to play a role in society. It's becoming much more acceptable. I can totally see it too, too. And the sex robots are getting really good. Not the sex robot I bought. That thing was a city bus that you had to have sex with his tailpipe. It's insane. But the sex robot, the sex dolls, We've talked about this a lot on this show, especially in the early seasons and we reviewed documentaries and people who had sex dolls. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about sex robots. AI infected sex robots. That's the kind of STD you get. The kind of like, you know, fakey B where I got that app and it started learning my personality and it started responding to me and calling me and texting me. It was an AI app for. Specifically for this purpose for people who wanted a AI boyfriend or girlfriend. And you'd create them out a whole I'd say cloth, but it's not really cloth. Whole X's and O's, ones and zeros, whatever it is. And then they would start to learn you based on the information you were giving to them. Your patterns, your sleeping habits, your calling habits. You could call them and talk to them. You could text them at any time and they would respond. And so sex robots who have this same kind of technology as. As freshmen as it is right now, but now they have these amazing motors in them that can go do all kind of magical things, including learn how you like to have sex and have sex with you in the way that you like to have sex. And they're highly intricate. They feel like flesh. I assume from what everybody says. I've actually never seen one in person have human hair. They're just like almost human now. They can't walk, you know, you gotta kind of lift lug them around. You gotta put them at the dinner table. And they don't eat, but you could still have a meal with them and talk to them, and they could move their mouth and talk to you back and learn who you are and all this other stuff. Could this be a cure? Could this be something that helps this loneliness pandemic? Should we start thinking about. I say sex robots, but robots, female and male robots, companion companion robots that do whatever you want them to do, right? I mean, within reason. Let's not get crazy with the robots, too. We don't need P. Diddy robots. Yeah, we don't need a bunch of P. Diddies running around with a robot having robot parties. Robots have feelings, too.

Chris Joy Hley (35:07)

They tell you they have feelings.

Brian Green (35:08)

They tell you they have feelings.

Chris Joy Hley (35:10)

Don't kill me.

Brian Green (35:11)

I know. Please don't kill me. Raphael's special customer service rope will beg you not to kill it, which just makes you want to kill it even more. But I was. I would. There these are. And they do, I think, at some point, believe that they're human. And they've already discovered this issue. They don't really think they're human, but they have ingested so much material and so much information about humans and how they think. And, you know, the brain can probably will never be replicated 100% and it's not sentient, but it believes it can believe that it's sentient because that's what a human being would believe. It wants to love. It wants to feel. Here's two interesting things that happened. One person, Google employee, found out that one of their AI programs had started believing that it was sentient.

Chris Joy Hley (36:07)

Oh, that's Right.

Brian Green (36:08)

It started telling that. Yeah, that it was sentient and that it didn't in it, that it believed in God and that they did not want to die and like all this other stuff. And he came out as a whistleblower and he quickly got, you know, slapped down as just a crazy guy who worked in the corner of a Google, you know, cubicle or something like that. But the second thing that I read about and then watched a video about, which I thought was extraordinarily interesting, is there was a company that set out and it asked its AI program, its advanced AI program. I want you to learn how to do the captcha on websites.

Chris Joy Hley (36:45)

Oh, right.

Brian Green (36:47)

For what reason? I don't know. It was just a task. It gave it figure out how to complete the captcha. You know, solve the puzzle.

Chris Joy Hley (36:54)

Like the click, the bridge, everything that has. Yeah. Motorcycles.

Brian Green (36:57)

Everything. Have motorcycles. Write these words as they get fuzzier and fuzzier and fuzzier. If you wait too long, slide the puzzle to complete it. Stuff like that. The capture programs that are supposed to determine if you're a human being based on the response time, how you move the mouse, or if you can see the letters on the screen, which cannot be scraped by a bot. Right. It asked its AI program to do that. Its AI program could not do that because it's made. It's built to not allow AI or any other bot to do that. Didn't know how to do it.

Chris Joy Hley (37:28)

Yeah.

Brian Green (37:28)

But what it did do is it started going to Fiverr and agreeing to pay people and asking people. TaskRabbit and Fiverr, asking human beings to do it for them. Well, some of the people got suspicious, and one of the person got so suspicious, it asked, are you a bot? And the AI responded, no, I'm not a bot. Why would you think that? And it's like, because you're asking me to do something that almost every human being can do. And it was like, well, I'm a human being. I can't do that because I'm blind. Oh, wow. And this one, you know, I have not been on the AI bandwagon as much as a lot of people are. I really think that we're. It's not as advanced. I think there are programs that are certainly advanced, but I don't think it's this big scary machine that's coming. That's, you know, coming alive and coming to each your job. I don't think it's going to be making podcasts tomorrow and all this other stuff. I think it'd Be used for certain tasks in specific industries, like repetitive behaviors or stuff that needs machine learning, like medicine, to evaluate all possible combinations. But this one got me. Because if a computer or if AI is not sentient, but it wanted a human being to believe, or if it was sentient and it wanted us to believe that it wasn't sentient, would it be like a human being and deceive us? Would it say, no, I'm not sentient, but it really is, or, no, I can't get the nuclear codes, but it can, or no, I'm not a catfish, but I am. I'm not a Russian misinformation AI troll, but I am. Like, if it's so smart that it lies to people to get its way, is it manipulating us in ways already that we don't yet understand, like manipulating Brian to think it's a lot less sophisticated than it actually is now? Maybe, I don't know. And that makes me nervous about possibility. Yeah. Now, I agree that robots or companions, AI companions, physical companions, could have their place in solving some of the loneliness problem. If you're a gentleman who's just kind of not had great luck with women in your life, for whatever reason, you're shy, your personality gets a little weird around girls, you know, you get a. You have a weird tick, you tremble, you pee your pants, something like that. I don't know. But you can get a bombshell of a sex robot that could live with you forever, essentially, as long as you change his batteries and plug it in at night and could have sex with you and could talk to you and learn your personality and text you in the afternoon and ask you how you're doing and how you're feeling.

Chris Joy Hley (40:01)

Yeah, I think.

Brian Green (40:03)

Okay, I like it. And vice versa for women or men on men or women on women or.

Chris Joy Hley (40:07)

Well, I think there was already an experiment. I think this was in New York, and they did this with elderly people and gave them the dogs that were robots. And it really helped with their loneliness.

Brian Green (40:18)

Oh, that's great.

Chris Joy Hley (40:19)

So that was the dog and not the human part. But I'm okay with it. I think. Why not?

Brian Green (40:25)

I don't like the madness, but I'm with the method, if you know what I mean. I don't think it's a bad idea. And I think I would be. If I was lonely. I think I would be open to the idea that someone could come in and. Or something could come in. And it may not be the real thing, but at least it helps a little bit. Right? And, you know, that's what I say to Astrid, when we have sex, I say, it may not be the real thing, but it'll help a little bit. She says, little is the underscored word in that sentence. So this is very interesting. This all leads me to say that there is a guy out there on ITV on the morning show.

Chris Joy Hley (41:05)

Oh, our favorite.

Brian Green (41:06)

Yes, our favorite show. Who got a sex doll so that he could have threesomes. Oh, because he wanted to have threesomes. He was lonely. Even though he had his wife, he was lonely for an extra girl in the bedroom. And so he convinced his wife that the right idea was to have a sex robot because she doesn't have feelings and she's not going to take your place. Yes, she is. I mean, come on. If Astrid said, can I bring in Long Dong Silver, my sex robot, who could stay hard indefinitely and jizz on command, and has literally has trained itself to learn exactly how I like fellatio and. But don't worry, there's no threat to you. No, I'd be like, like. So you're replacing me, right? Essentially, you don't like how we do it, you're replacing me. But listen, I don't know, maybe that. Now, the question is, the. The next question is, if it can help with loneliness, can it help with marriage? Can it be a sex surrogate? Can it help save your marriage if you're a cheating bastard and that's what you like to do just because you like the idea of having sex with other people or whatever, can you bring in a male or a female robot and get your rocks off and your licks off when you want to, but you don't go to, you know, meet the new secretary at the office. Yeah, right. The host is at the host stand, Whatever it will be. Let's take a break and then we'll review that short video after these words. What do you think?

Chris Joy Hley (42:36)

I think we should do it.

Brian Green (42:37)

All right, we'll be back.

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Brian Green (43:42)

All right, let's take a look at this ITV video here. And let me dial it up in here in the old computer on the old TCB podcast computer, the Casio 3000 we have. And then I'll take off mute, and then we'll watch as they discuss this.

Amber (44:02)

They're nothing new. So what makes her special?

Philip (44:05)

Well, she's got A.I. she's one of the first dolls with A.I.

Brian Green (44:08)

Okay, so this is an A.I. sex robot. This is Philip and Holly. So this is obviously more than a year ago. The robot is just staring at Philip.

Chris Joy Hley (44:15)

Seducing him with her eyes.

Brian Green (44:18)

Wow, those are seductive eyes. I'm getting seduced by her, actually. She's a very pretty robot. I will say that. A little pasty, but she's. And she's. The robot is sitting in between what I assume is him and his wife.

Amber (44:31)

Yeah.

Philip (44:31)

So she's got. You can actually interact with her verbally and physically. So she got senses. He's the co.

Chris Joy Hley (44:36)

Creator.

Brian Green (44:36)

Oh, he's the co. Creator of the robot. Oh, okay. I think I may have pulled the wrong video, but let's roll with this.

Amber (44:41)

We've actually. We've turned her off.

Philip (44:43)

Yes.

Amber (44:44)

So that she doesn't come out with anything. Of course.

Holly (44:48)

Yes.

Philip (44:48)

Good idea.

Amber (44:49)

Why?

Holly (44:49)

Why?

Petunia Watermelon (44:50)

Why?

Holly (44:50)

Why is this necessary?

Philip (44:54)

Why is it necessary? Well, we believe as a company, since I'm a notice that the sex robots. It's not. It's not to replace.

Brian Green (45:05)

Yeah, turn it on. I want to hear. That's right.

Philip (45:10)

People. We're not trying to replace women. It's not about that. It's as a supplement. Like I explained in previous interviews, it's a supplement to help people. And I believe it can do that. I think it can help people enhance their relationship.

Amber (45:22)

What does she do?

Brian Green (45:23)

She took a supplement of my ass. Phillip.

Chris Joy Hley (45:28)

Is that his name or what's his name?

Brian Green (45:29)

His name is Philip.

Chris Joy Hley (45:31)

He goes, what does she do?

Brian Green (45:34)

She gives. She gives you a hard on.

Philip (45:45)

Like I say, you can talk to her so you can interact. You can tell her you love her. She'll respond and she'll say this.

Amber (45:50)

This.

Brian Green (45:50)

I Love you too.

Amber (45:53)

And then she might. Go on to say.

Brian Green (45:59)

Do you think we could get more sensual? And then I can take many times, much more love Just because you can give it.

Chris Joy Hley (46:19)

Many times, much more love.

Brian Green (46:20)

I can take many times again, again, again until she, until she starts.

Chris Joy Hley (46:34)

Yeah.

Brian Green (46:35)

Please replace my batteries. I can take many times for about another 13 minutes. Battery critical. Don't let me die. I take it all.

Chris Joy Hley (46:48)

Oh, oh.

Amber (46:49)

Then I didn't like to interrupt. In full flow. I mean, it's a bit like making. Love to a car gps, isn't it?

Philip (47:06)

No, I don't think so.

Brian Green (47:07)

Humans love human.

Astrid (47:08)

Bob.

Brian Green (47:11)

You old man. What's your problem?

Philip (47:18)

Obviously, I think she's very beautiful. Would you agree she's beautiful?

Brian Green (47:22)

No, she's a doll.

Holly (47:23)

She's a doll. I mean, it's not. The thing is you can't get away from the fact that she's not real. I mean, I know the one thing that's different about her also is her skin texture.

Philip (47:35)

Yes.

Holly (47:36)

And this is something that, that, I mean, we've all seen those blow up dolls which are very plasticky and very unrealistic. And she has special skin that's meant to feel like human skin to the touch.

Philip (47:47)

I don't know how much you know about sex dolls, but. Not much. Maybe not much. Okay, I'll explain. The vast majority of sex dolls either come from the US Or China in general. They're all one color. So the texture, if you look at the texture on, on Samantha, you can see it's actually like real skin. It's not there's, it's ingrained with a different text.

Brian Green (48:14)

Someone stop this guy from touching me. I'm really creeped out.

Philip (48:19)

She's, it's not one plain color, which all the other sex dolls on the market are.

Amber (48:23)

Right. I, I, when she was brought in this morning and, and Holly and I were introduced to her. I did.

Brian Green (48:29)

She came to life and had some tea and then took the head off one of our interns introduced to her. Oh my God. Philip, stop. Don't buy into this.

Amber (48:39)

Actually touch her arm and, and I, and this is me. I found it really quite unnerving that.

Brian Green (48:46)

It was quite this coming from the guy who had sex with interns.

Chris Joy Hley (48:51)

Yeah.

Amber (48:51)

A good feeling of skin, but was cold.

Astrid (48:54)

It was.

Amber (48:55)

She's like a corpse.

Philip (48:56)

Yes. Yeah.

Brian Green (48:57)

Yes, exactly. Exactly. Philip, now you're seeing the real reason why I like this doll. I co created her for corpse sex.

Philip (49:07)

Well, the reason that we don't heat her up. It can be done. It could be heated up but she runs on a 12 volt battery pack.

Brian Green (49:14)

Which obviously for his 12 volt battery pack doesn't sound like a lot of power.

Chris Joy Hley (49:19)

12 volt battery skin can be heated up.

Brian Green (49:22)

He's so he says, I okay, that, that's not enough.

Philip (49:26)

It needs to be a lot higher than that. So we're working on ways where she can be linked to a higher power source and then she could be warm now.

Holly (49:33)

But you're, you're saying that, that females have sex aids, that they're using vibrators. It's now very accepted part of our society.

Amber (49:39)

And you fit in the drawer.

Holly (49:40)

They fit in the drawer. This is my point. Where are you gonna hide?

Brian Green (49:45)

They fit in the drawer. I've got six of them in my drawer back at the. The office. Yeah. One for Daniel, one for David.

Holly (49:53)

Children around. I mean, it would be quite frightening if a child found that in your wardrobe.

Philip (49:58)

Well, I had two children myself and they actually this. She's got smart, has a family mode, which it's impossible.

Amber (50:04)

What, she's going to read the kids a bedtime story.

Philip (50:06)

She can talk about animals. She can talk about philosophy. She can talk about science.

Brian Green (50:11)

Philosophy coming from your big bust and sex doll. Kids gather.

Philip (50:23)

She's got a children with a thousand jokes which is at random. So I don't know all of them. So there's a lot to. Samantha, she's. She's advanced.

Amber (50:33)

And so you. So, so you can switch her over to the family mode and what? And have a sitting on the sofa amongst the family?

Philip (50:39)

Yes, yes. My children. They say, where's Samantha? So she can be at home. You just ask her. For example, tell me something about your.

Holly (50:47)

Children at some point.

Brian Green (50:50)

I mean, what are you talking about? You don't take your sex robot and put it on the couch.

Chris Joy Hley (50:56)

I know.

Brian Green (50:56)

While you're watching Mickey Jr. You're an idiot. You're an absolute idiot. This guy's a lug nut. I'm sorry. He is.

Holly (51:04)

They're going to know. And how old are they?

Chris Joy Hley (51:06)

They're young.

Philip (51:06)

Five and three.

Amber (51:07)

They ask where she is.

Philip (51:09)

Yes. Yeah. They say, and when we brought her in the car. They really, they really enjoy.

Holly (51:12)

But at some point they're gonna go, I'm now old enough to realize that Samantha. Daddy. Daddy has sex with Samantha and Samantha's not mommy.

Chris Joy Hley (51:21)

Start the childhood trauma early. Just go ahead and integrate.

Brian Green (51:26)

Holly. At what point are they gonna start saying daddy has sex with a robot? Come on, that's stupid. That's a stupid thing to say.

Holly (51:35)

Is that not. Is that not a Bit strange.

Philip (51:38)

I think the world's changing. I believe the world's changing, but it.

Astrid (51:41)

Doesn'T mean it's changing for the better, does it? And, I mean, I think with AI Particularly, one of the things that we're realizing in psychology is, who's that sex robot?

Chris Joy Hley (51:48)

I know she's beautiful.

Brian Green (51:50)

There's been a girl on the couch the entire time sitting on the opposite side of the sex robot. And she herself looks like a sex robot sometimes.

Astrid (51:57)

Just because we can do something doesn't mean that we should do it. And I think sex dolls are a perfect example, because when you look at Japan, for example, and that is the place that we can kind of identify as being leaders in this field, they've created child sex dolls. They've also created dolls that you can set to a particular setting which simulates an unwanted response. And actually, what we're saying is we're objectifying women, but worse than that, we're commercializing and becoming consumers of women's bodies in this way. This is not real.

Brian Green (52:23)

But there's not. But they don't just make female sex robots now. They also make male sex robots. And I watched a whole documentary, I think, on Vice TV about this, and there are quite a few women who are buying those also. So there are always going to be bad actors with new technology. It's just the way that it is. You can't then paint a broad brush and say, no one can have it because there are some assholes out there. You take care of the assholes and you beat Ginger with new technology. We all should be that way. That's how we should be. Look at what happened with Facebook or whatever the that is.

Astrid (52:54)

She is not called Samantha. She's a piece of whatever you've made. She's got voices that are simulated that aren't human. Certainly, having your children around, are they doing any harm?

Holly (53:03)

Because. Because within your relationship with your. With your wife, who's on the other side of the studio, you incorporate her into your love.

Chris Joy Hley (53:09)

Who doesn't want to be seen on camera? Oh, wait, there she is.

Brian Green (53:12)

There she is of it. Probably a Japanese woman herself. Thanks for being highly offensive to everybody, lady.

Philip (53:19)

Yes, I think it's.

Astrid (53:20)

People might think paraphilia, isn't it? We're talking paraphilia here. We're talking our particular sexual fetish. That's not actually what we're consider normal spectrum.

Philip (53:29)

What's normal?

Brian Green (53:29)

Yeah.

Amber (53:30)

No, I disagree with that because I don't know, you know, that if you're not harming anybody, you're not doing anybody any harm. Where. Where does normal start?

Brian Green (53:37)

The kids, your wife, your neighbors, the family. Thanksgiving dinner. They don't celebrate Thanksgiving. Christmas dinner.

Amber (53:45)

Your wife is over there. We've so many. Had so many people on Hannah. When the guy has sat here and my wife is absolutely. Whether it is swinging or, you know, sort of whatever it is. And you. You look at the wife's face and you can see her thinking, oh, dear God, no. Are you happy with this? Yes, I am totally happy with having Samantha look at him.

Chris Joy Hley (54:06)

Makes me not have sex with him.

Brian Green (54:07)

I know.

Chris Joy Hley (54:08)

Takes the pressure off.

Brian Green (54:10)

Have you seen him? He's on your couch.

Chris Joy Hley (54:12)

I've got a version of my own. A male version of my own.

Brian Green (54:15)

Yeah, he's a tub of lard who wants to have sex with that. Or at least he can get it up now.

Amber (54:21)

Kids around?

Brian Green (54:22)

Yes, completely.

Amber (54:23)

And why do you. Why are you comfortable with it? As a woman?

Brian Green (54:27)

You know, we. As a woman, we. You know, I'm not be offense to have her around.

Amber (54:33)

Yeah.

Brian Green (54:34)

Or I'm not being, you know, like, worried that she might be replacing. Yeah, no, no, not at all. She just someone there, you know, she's a big helper. Okay, Philip, shut your mouth.

Amber (54:50)

Amber, why didn't you. Is he gonna make a bloke for you?

Brian Green (54:54)

No, not at all. You know, I'm not worried at all because I'm not replaceable by, you know, Samantha. She's actually helped us to enhance our relationship. Oh, okay. All right, listen. Hey, to each their own. I. I think there's certain situations where this could be seen as a. As a helpful thing.

Chris Joy Hley (55:14)

I do, too.

Brian Green (55:16)

Why not?

Chris Joy Hley (55:16)

Yeah, whatever.

Brian Green (55:17)

You're into the hot ones with the hot ones.

Chris Joy Hley (55:25)

My one Samantha.

Brian Green (55:35)

Once. Once he makes it. Once he allows the robot to use her arms. Look out, Sarah. Look out. I. I really don't.

Chris Joy Hley (55:45)

Fascinating.

Brian Green (55:45)

I really see this as just being another option and a sea of options on how to get your rocks off and interact with the world around you. And we interact with our computers every day. We ask Google 70 times a day to help us live our lives. We use maps. We use Spotify to help us find music. We use Tinder to help us find dates, weights. We use grubhub to help get us fatter. I mean, listen, there's a lot of different stuff out there that helps facilitate us in different aspects of our life. This is just yet another tool. And it's good if you use it sparingly, I think. Doug, I don't think we should go wild. You know, make sure your wife enjoys this, too. She seems kind of like a hostage checking in. Your wife seems kind of like a hostage, if I'm being honest, but okay, I'm not gonna make judgments. Whatever. You know who's not a hostage? You. You have a choice to listen to this show or I will come and get you. I appreciate it, but what you don't have a choice to do is text us or call us at 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Questions, comments, concerns, contents, ideas? We will take them all. We'd love to Hear from you. DCB podcast.com all the audio, all the video, more information about Chrissy and I. You can send us an email. You can also get your free TCB sticker. We now have two new stickers. I won't even tell you what they are. All you have to do, though, is ask for your free sticker on the website and we'll send it away to you. And maybe Astro will send you one or two or. Or three. I don't know. Astrid's Astrid a robot now, too? The real astro left. Dcbpodcast.com oh, I already said that. Add the commercial break on Instagram, TCB podcast on tick tock and YouTube.com the commercial break for selected episodes and all of our interviews. Chrissy, that's all I can do for today.

Chris Joy Hley (57:42)

I think so.

Brian Green (57:43)

I'll tell you that I love you.

Chris Joy Hley (57:44)

I love you.

Brian Green (57:44)

Best to you and best you out there in the podcast universe. Unless until next time. Chrissy and I always say, we do say and we must say goodbye. J.