Now I'm a Belieber! (The Return Of Carl Lentz)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "Now I'm a Belieber! (The Return Of Carl Lentz)"

The Commercial Break | Hosted by Bryan Green & Krissy Hoadley
Release Date: March 28, 2025

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Main Theme & Purpose

In this off-the-walls, comedy-laced episode, Bryan and Krissy take aim at pop culture chaos with their signature irreverence, riffing on everything from Girl Scout cookie inflation, Fyre Fest 2.0 shenanigans, and most notably, the return and public "apology tour" of former Hillsong pastor Carl Lentz. They pepper the episode with improv character sketches, parodies, and sharp commentary, dissecting Lentz’s rebranding attempt in real time while keeping the laughs coming. Expect a freewheeling takedown of public redemption arcs, religious celebrity mishaps, and the wild, unfiltered world of “infomercial podcasting.”

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Episode Breakdown & Key Discussion Points

1. Pre-Show Satire: T-Ball, Girl Scout Cookies & Shrinkflation

• [00:04]–[06:15]
  Bryan and Krissy open with an elaborate comedy bit: a mock “Game of the Week” narrated by sports reporter “Touchdown Jim,” poking fun at overzealous little league coaches and "winner-loser" culture.
  • Best line: “If your dad said it doesn’t matter whether you win or lose, just as long as you have fun—well, I hate to say it, your dad’s a loser.” – “Coach Derek Ponderosa” ([01:25])
• Discussion pivots to Girl Scout cookie season and bizarre price differences:
  • Bryan rails against “shrinkflation” and wild price disparities: “One box $7, another $15? Why the price discrepancy?” ([05:35])
  • Krissy: “I didn’t think you could just charge whatever you wanted.” ([05:35])
  • General theme: Capitalism even seeps into childhood traditions.

2. Sidebar: Boy Scouts & Reputation

• [07:16]–[10:11]
  Bryan reflects on his brief Boy Scout stint, strong “vibes” from troop leaders, and the culture of overachievement. He wonders “at what age do you stop putting Eagle Scout on your resume?”

3. Fyre Festival 2.0 Update

• [10:15]–[16:09]
  Bryan and Krissy dive into the developing trainwreck that is “Fyre Fest 2: Playa del Carmen,” spinning a web of skepticism and snark:
  • Billy McFarland changes festival venue last-minute, “disaster waiting to happen, and I’m here for it.” – Bryan ([12:37])
  • Imagines fake lineup: “Snoop Cat, One Pac, Kanye East, Big Wayne and 25 Cents.” ([15:46])
  • Industry tangent: Getting paid upfront and booking musical acts, with festival war stories from Bryan’s own “Jam Land Productions” days (bouncing checks, homegrown festivals, and evading undercover cops).

4. Carl Lentz “Apology Tour” Breakdown

• Spotlight Segment ([25:23]–[64:36])

  a) Context & Setup

  • Introduction to Carl Lentz, ex-Hillsong “rockstar” pastor and former Justin Bieber confidant, as he launches his own video podcast/apology series.
  • Bryan preps listeners for a head-first dive into Carl’s redemption arc: “Let’s see what Carl’s up to... maybe he’s a changed man.” ([29:15])

  b) Improv Parody & Commentary

  • Bryan and Krissy, with regular “Carl Lentz” and “Laura Lentz” character impressions, lampoon the cliché tropes of celebrity apologies:
    • Carl, in parody: “I’m here to make an apology, girl, because I’m sorry I jizzed all over your mom’s front door. But I did leave her a couple dollars just in case.” ([26:42])
    • “I can’t preach with a full vessel. So I gotta release that vessel.” ([27:07])

  c) Critical Play-By-Play of Carl & Laura’s Real Apology Video

  • Satirical reaction to Carl’s actual video production:
    • “Already with the music and multiple camera angles... he knows how to produce a video.” – Bryan ([29:22])
    • Krissy notes: “He's got two camera angles... and a lion statue, maybe?” ([41:24])
  • Skepticism of Carl’s rhetoric (“healed and healing”): “Still seems full of shit, and, you know, I think this was always the plan: get out of the public eye for a while and then use the redemption story to make more money.” – Bryan ([30:57])
  • Constant ribbing about narcissism, gold chains, and opportunism:
    • “This is like Fyre Fest 2... a lot of promises, nothing delivered.” – Bryan ([35:41])
    • “I wanna give back to the ladies. I know I’ve done you wrong, so I’ll be teaching pole dancing on Sunday, mud wrestling on Mondays.” – “Carl” ([46:06])

  d) Real Points from Carl & Laura

  • Laura Lentz: “We went through some things... we're gonna use everything we've been through to hopefully bring some new life and hope to people.” ([30:01])
  • Carl: “We're gonna talk about our story... why has it taken us so long to talk? Why is Laura still married to me? Who's at fault? We handle some of the real hard questions.” ([33:16])
  • Laura: “You cannot save face and save your life at the same time.” ([55:47])

  e) Bryan & Krissy’s Running Commentary

  • Pointedly call out self-centeredness: “How about caring about the feelings and protecting the people you love, or trying to?” – Bryan ([55:49])
  • On the spectacle: “Everyone loves a redemption story. Am I right? Let me put more words in your mouth before you talk.” ([39:31])
  • On narcissism: “But I think you have to be a narcissist to believe you're the one talking to God and everybody else needs to talk through you...” ([57:13])

  f) Vulnerability, Empathy, and Continuing Skepticism

  • Occasionally express empathy for Laura and their kids—Bryan: “This is not her fault... I can only imagine what she was feeling at this time.” ([64:14])
  • Ongoing suspicion that the “apology” is just a well-polished content pivot for profit.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Overzealous Kids Sports:
  “Hit dingers, disgrace the pitcher’s family, make the other families, other players cry and stomp their butts into the ground. … If your dad has said, ‘oh, it doesn’t matter whether you win or lose, just as long as you have fun.’ Well, I hate to say it, your dad’s a loser, okay?”
  — “Coach Derek Ponderosa” ([01:25])

• On Fyre Fest 2.0’s Disaster Potential:
  “A venue change two months before the event. Sounds very firefight. I heard Michael Jackson is going to play. Nope. Breaking news: Fire 2 headliners include Snoop Cat, One Pac, Kanye East, Big Wayne and 25 Cents.”
  — Bryan ([15:46])

• On Festival Payments:
  "Bands have, and probably will in the future... been late to go on stage because the money hasn't hit their account yet. … The only thing they got is to withhold the presentation."
  — Bryan ([17:04])

• On Carl Lentz’s Apology Video:

  • "I'm here to make an apology, girl, because I'm sorry I jizzed all over your mom's front door. But I did leave her a couple dollars just in case."
    — “Carl Lentz” parody ([26:42])
  • “It's hard to preach on a full dick.”
    — “Carl Lentz” ([25:52])
  • “Still seems full of shit, and, you know, I think this was always the plan: get out of the public eye for a while and then use the redemption story to make more money.”
    — Bryan ([30:57])

• On Redemption and Empathy:
  "Redemption stories are great, but true contrition comes from letting others tell you how hurt they've been by your actions without narrative. That's the hardest apology."
  — Bryan ([39:44])

• On Public Scandal & Narcissism:
  “You have to be a narcissist to believe you’re the one that’s talking to God and everybody else needs to talk through you. And I think that’s a certain kind of sickness, if I’m being honest.”
  — Bryan ([57:13])

• On Profiteering from Scandal:
  “I’d like to announce Carl coin, sponsored by Y Brian 3000—Carl coin, now available on all major crypto. Also known as Cox for Christ coin.”
  — “Carl” improv ([45:47])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:04] – Mock “Game of the Week” by “Touchdown Jim”
• [04:02] – Girl Scout Cookie price rant
• [10:15] – Fyre Fest 2 news and industry insights
• [17:14] – Jam Land Blues Fest & festival war stories
• [25:23] – Carl Lentz Apology Tour begins
• [26:42] – Parody Carl Lentz apology
• [30:01] – Laura Lentz on hope and public life
• [35:41] – Critique: “This is like Fyre Fest 2.”
• [39:31] – “Everyone loves a redemption story” riff
• [46:06] – “Hard sword of the Lord”/Pole-dancing church parody
• [55:47] – Laura on “saving face vs. saving your life”
• [57:13] – Narcissism and religious celebrity
• [64:30] – Reflection on empathy for Laura and the kids

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Tone & Style Notes

The episode is, as always, fast, loose, and hilariously raw. The hosts deftly blend absurdist improvisation (“Carl Lentz” continually dropping in with lascivious one-liners) with pointed cultural criticism. Their style—a mix of mock earnestness and gleeful irreverence—skewers the hypocrisies of public apologies, religious fame, and influencer grifts alike. Krissy and Bryan’s rapport is laced with years of comic rhythm, honing in on both the ridiculous details and sad realities of modern celebrity self-redemption.

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Summary Takeaways

• Celebrity Redemption Arcs: Profitable, suspect, and ready fodder for comedy. Carl Lentz’s apology podcast is viewed as a high-production, heavy-narrative “rebrand,” more than genuine reckoning.
• Fyre Fest 2 as Metaphor: The cycle of jump-cut hype, lack of accountability, and public intrigue mirrors Lentz’s return—“everyone loves a trainwreck.”
• Real Empathy but Relentless Satire: The hosts reserve compassion for family members caught in the crossfire, but mercilessly lampoon public figures who exploit their own scandals.

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Whether you want to laugh at the fall of celebrity preachers, hear tales of outlaw blues fests, or just enjoy modern life’s absurdity, this is peak “Commercial Break”: wickedly funny, never polished, and proud of it.

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Transcript

[Jim (Touchdown Jim)]

This is WSHIT's head sports reporter, Jim. Touchdown Jeffries. Welcome to the game of the week. That's right. I'm the same Touchdown Jim that scored the final six points in the state Class D championship game back in 1976. You may remember the game as fondly as I do. Touchdown Jim, that's me. Ran 72 yards in the wrong direction, confused by the bright lights, only to be carried back by my quarterback to the opposing end zone where the final touchdown was scored. And while I had not even made the team that year, we were six players short that day because the opposing team failed to show up. And the coach made the call. And that, my good friends, is how history is made. That's how history is made. We have a hell of a game for you tonight. The Crabapple Nutbags. Our boys are facing their toughest competitors in the Sheboygan Sheep Wranglers. This, my friends, is as exciting as a 6 to 7 year old T ball match is ever going to get. So let's go down to the field where coach Derek Ponderosa is fresh off probation and ready to give his pre game talk.

[Coach Derek Ponderosa]

Our goals are. Listen, listen. Our goals are to hit dingers. Everybody better have their eyes on me. Eyes on me, Rylan. Hit dingers, disgrace the pitcher's family, make the other families, other players cry and stomp their butts into the ground. Does everyone understand that? Does everybody understand that? Look, fellas, look, look, look. There are two types of people in this world. There's two types of people in this world. There's winners and there's losers. Just so that we're clear, every time we step on this field, our goal is to be a winner. And if your dad has said, oh, it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, just as long as you have fun. Well, I hate to say it, your dad's a loser, okay? So let's get out. Let's get our hands in. That team's pretty good, but we are gooder. So let's go Gooder on three. Let's go Good around three.

[Jim (Touchdown Jim)]

I could not have said it better myself, Coach. Your dad is a loser indeed. Let's take a quick commercial break and we'll be back with the game. On this episode of the commercial break.

[Carl Lentz]

We're still in touch, me and Biebs. I say, hey, Beez, come on over. We'll smoke a blunt, we'll get on Pornhub, we'll play a little basketball, little B ball. I'm in my timeout period, but trust me, when I come back, you're gonna love it. Beads. We'll be back together before too long. Paparazzi just waiting outside for us. All right, I gotta go.

[Laura Lentz]

Hope with this whole thing is that you can look at what's happened in our life and maybe you can recognize a little bit of your story in ours. And together we can all grow. So the future of the podcast is gonna be me bringing on people that I love, that have changed my life, that have helped me heal, that are helping me heal, and that's the future.

[Carl Lentz]

But the right including four time AVN winner, Farrah Abraham.

[Brian Green]

Farrah Abraham is my first guest.

[Jim (Touchdown Jim)]

The next episode of the commercial break starts now.

[Brian Green]

Aw, yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this, Chris. Enjoy Hoadley. Best to you, Chris.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Best to you, Brian.

[Brian Green]

Best to you out there in the podcast universe. How the hell are you? Thanks for joining us. Were you a Girl Scout?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I was.

[Brian Green]

You were?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Well, I was a Brownie, which is the one right before Girl Scouts. And then I think I did girls Girl Scouts for one year. So I just did like Brownie one year and Girl Scout one year.

[Brian Green]

Did the Brownies sell the cookies?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I can't remember.

[Brian Green]

So, young man, I'll tell you what, it's Girl Scout cookie time. And that is a dangerous time for all of our waistlines around here because they are so good. The tag, the tag alongs or whatever you call them now. They have the toffee something or other.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Toffee ones are good.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God. Absolutely addictive. A regular old shortbread cookie with toffee pieces in it. It is crack. That's what it is. It's crack now that I don't smoke crack anymore. It's. That's my crack. It's crack. There's no doubt. And my kids love them and everybody loves them. We spend about $110 on cookies every year and they're gone within the week. And they're getting more expensive and you're getting less of them. Shrinkflation. Shrinkflation is happening with the Girl Scout cookies. And I want to know something. So one of the people in our family, loosely related to our family, sells them to us each year. We go to her to, you know, make sure we help her. Yeah, she's our dealer. Yes, exactly. She's our dealer charging $7 a box. But then somebody else on Facebook was selling them for $6 a box. And then I go to the store the other day and there's a lady like there is often in suburbia selling the cookies outside for $15 a box. Whoa, why the price discrepancy?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah, I didn't think you could just charge whatever you wanted.

[Brian Green]

Shouldn't it just be one flat rate like across the country? One flat rate for the cookies? Why do we have seen a box 15 a box?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I mean, the difference between six and seven.

[Brian Green]

Okay, but yeah, okay, I get the six and seven. You know, one person wants to make. I guess it's about how much money you raise and maybe not how many boxes you sell. But I think it should be Converse. The situation should be inverse. Like I think that we should have how many boxes you sell, not how much money you make. And I guess that doesn't make any sense either. But listen, I don't care what it is, just make it one price. Yeah, $6 a box. And you get as many as you did last year. Because this year seems craz.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I'm sorry, I'm stuck on the 15.

[Brian Green]

It's 15. It was 15. And these people look like they were scamming people. I didn't like it. And they were a little pushy about it too. They're like, I'll be local Girl Scout troop. And I was like, oh, I'm sorry, I already bought at the office or whatever. And she was like, you can buy more support local. And I'm like, how do you know I didn't buy them local? I didn't. But how do you know I didn't buy them local? I got mine shipped in from North Carolina. You got a problem with that? Is that okay? I don't know. Anyway, anybody who's got Girl Scouts in their life knows that this time of year is dangerous. And then we got all gotta wait another year to get them. Though I do see that they are selling some of these at the grocery stores now.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Really?

[Brian Green]

Girl Scout cookies at the grocery stores? Yes. I don't know what's going on, but I think I saw them at Whole Foods or Walmart or one of those things or something.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

All up in upheaval.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, like, I mean, if they're cutting out the middleman, then how those girls gonna make money? You know what I'm saying?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

That was the thing. They were exclusive to the Girl Scouts.

[Brian Green]

They are exclusive to the Girl Scouts. But I think the Girl Scout have decided they can make money year round on this.

[Carl Lentz]

Why?

[Brian Green]

Why wait?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

That's true.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And I don't know if the Girl Scouts are like the Boy Scouts, but you know, the Boy Scouts aren't exactly on a hot run right now. I don't know if you know this or not, but it's. It's a tough time for the Boy Scouts in general. And the Boy Scouts, I believe, now have to allow girls in the Boy Scout troops if they ask. So there you go. Do the boys get to go to the Girl Scouts? Sure, probably. I guess.

[Carl Lentz]

I don't know.

[Brian Green]

I don't know. I went to two Boy Scout meetings, and I gotta be honest, the guys who were leading the meetings were giving off vibes, if you know what I mean. And I was only there for two things. Whatever you call them meetings. Boy Scout troop whatever, conferences. I don't even know what the fuck you call them. At the local Catholic church, the leaders were giving off vibes. I could feel it. And I was only 13 years old. And they wanted to do a camping trip the very next weekend.

[Carl Lentz]

And.

[Brian Green]

And I. And my dad was like, y' all.

[Carl Lentz]

Want to go and I don't want.

[Brian Green]

To go to fucking. I don't know what's going on there, dad. Some. Something's going on. None of those troop leaders have kids and they're all interested in having kids. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying anything bad was happening. I'm saying I. In my little pea brain at that time, I had a spidey sense about the whole situation. I didn't like it. It was not for me. I did know a lot of Boy Scouts, and I know some guys who are Eagle Scouts.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

Which is not easy to do. It's like when you become an Eagle Scout, I think you have to, like.

[Carl Lentz]

Do a bunch of.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

You gotta tie a bunch of knots.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. You gotta know how to tie multiple knots when you're an Eagle Scout and like, you know, skin a bear with your bare teeth or something like that. I don't know. Don't you have to catch a bald eagle and ride it around or something?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I think so, yeah.

[Brian Green]

You have to make a fire with nothing but your fingers. I mean, it's like a complicated thing. And I. When I see an Eagle Scout, you know, be proud you're an Eagle Scout. That was not an easy thing to do. But at what age do you stop saying Eagle Scout or do you always put that on your resume?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I don't know.

[Brian Green]

I do remember interviewing.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I'm not involved in any of those things.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, no, me neither. I don't. I was never involved in any high achievement at any level. None. Zero. Not even, like middle level achievement. I Do remember interviewing a guy at Clear Channel when I was doing interviews? I remember interviewing a guy and he had Eagle Scout on his resume. And I asked him, I said, what is this about? What are you, Eagle Scout? What are you doing there? And he said, well, you got to be. An Eagle Scout's an important thing recognized by the United States government. He went on, like, this whole diatribe. And I was. I found myself really impressed. I didn't hire him because he's going to make me look bad. He's going to make me look bad. I didn't need any more competition there. I looked pretty bad as it was. I didn't need yet another guy. I felt like if he was the guy who could take my job, never had hired the guy who's going to replace you. You know what I'm saying?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Hire people who aren't going to replace you.

[Carl Lentz]

And I had plenty of those to.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Make you look good.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, they didn't let me hire anybody any. I mean, I didn't. Like, I only had one direct hire, and she never came to work, so I don't know. She had a period for, like, three months one time. She really did. I was like, oh, okay. I mean. And I wasn't arguing. Not no siree Bob was I arguing. I knew better. My mom raised me right. I was like, okay, you take the 56 day off in a row, I guess. Okay. All right. Update on Fyre Fest. As it stands right now, though, when this episode comes out, there will probably be more information about this. But I just noticed something that is very interesting about this. There's been an update as we record this now. There's been an update to the Fyre Fest 2 or to Billy McFarland's Instagram page where he's telling people, this is the only official communication is going to come from me and my Instagram page. So with a rousing 620 likes, the. He has announced that Fyre Fest 2 has changed venues. I just noticed this. It's now at Playa del Carmen in the heart of the Mexican Riviera.

[Guest or Commentator]

Mayan.

[Brian Green]

Mayan Riviera? Well, yeah, they call it the Mexican Riviera. The Mayan Riviera is Quintana Rue. And that is, you know, I think.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

That'S kind of close to Tulum, because that's where I just was. Never seen that pop up, like, on my maps of where I was.

[Brian Green]

I do remember when Raphael visited Tulum a couple of times. I do remember, like, pictures he tagged himself in, had the Quintana Quintana Roo.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Or that's just a general location. Like that's not a venue. Like that's not hotel.

[Brian Green]

Well, so he's naming. So here's the thing. And this is what this is. I think that I understood this is probably what was going to happen. There is no stage. It's not a festival in the traditional sense. This is more like south by Southwest, where there are multiple places you're going to go to see different things. Because now he's naming clubs at Playa del Carmen, where things are going to happen. So it says happening at Playa del Carmen. Carmen in the heart of the Mayan Riviera. The venues are the Martina Beach Club, the Coralina Beach Club, the Mayan Water Complex, and other private villas and beach locations. I mean, if this doesn't sound like the most work you've ever done, for.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Everything to be happening, but we're not telling you what it is.

[Brian Green]

Yes, everything's happening. Don't worry.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Just come.

[Brian Green]

We've got a book. Yes. We have got some people booked that you're not going to believe, including bench warming college athletes from volleyball teams. You're going to love it. It's going to be awesome.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

That's so crazy.

[Brian Green]

It's so crazy. No one's playing. No one's been announced. Still two months out. Not even less than two months out. Still no one on the agenda. Not one person has been officially announced. Not one band, not. Not even one sports star. He keeps putting pictures of sports stars on his Instagram, but I don't know that they're going. And they haven't made an official announcement. And now he's basically telling you he switched locations. He was doing it here, now he's doing it like a hundred miles down the beach. So now if you've bought tickets and you've got your hotel accommodations, you got to switch them to the new location. This is the disaster waiting to happen, and I'm here for it. I hope that Netflix is on top of this.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, they've got to be.

[Brian Green]

I don't care if you're paying Billy, let Billy make a little money to pay those people back. Give him $100,000 and say, I want all access. And you have absolutely no control over the editor's cut. None. Zero. We're going to show everything.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

It really is so wild that he would do this again.

[Brian Green]

It's like insane.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Completely buttoned up and on the up and up.

[Brian Green]

Not be 100% cocksure and fire ready, no pun intended. For this, for everything. And if I was going to do it. I. I told you this. I would go to a bunch of millionaire investors and there are plenty of dumb dumbs out there with zeros in their bank account. And I would say guys in an escrow account controlled by lawyers and actual festival managers who are not related to me in any way, shape or form. Never worked with them before. You choose them. I need money in a bank account because I have the PR ability to make this happen. My name.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I mean, he did.

[Brian Green]

He did. He did. He did. He did. But he still does. That's the thing, is that he's so well known now because of all the drama around Fire one. He could have pulled this off had he done it the right way. Could have, but he's not going to. It's not going to happen. And this also, this change of venue last minute tells me that there's not many tickets that have been bought because he wouldn't. You couldn't do this. If everyone was planning on going one place, you couldn't then just move it to another venue. And I mean, I guess you could, but that'd be a really shitty thing to do. So he's already leaving people stranded, essentially, is what's happening. Here's some of the comments came for the comments. Can't wait to see the Netflix series. Please, Netflix. Does Playa del Carmen know about this? Some other person says I'm calling him later on to let them know. Nice. A venue change two months before the event. Sounds very firefight. I heard Michael Jackson is going to play. Nope. Breaking news. Fire two headliners include Snoop Cat, One Pac, Kanye East, Big Wayne and 25 Cents.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah, the only way he could really actually do anything would be if he did do the holograph. Like a holograph concert.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

For each.

[Brian Green]

Yes. So someone said Blink82 is taking the deposit money again, because you don't know, but that's actually how it all transpires. And Jeff would be able to elucidate.

[Carl Lentz]

On this a little bit.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

But yeah, you have deposit money.

[Brian Green]

You have to deposit. So let's say that you're hiring Blink182, Pearl Jam, whoever. You know some names, a Big Man, Green Day, you know, some big legacy act. Let's say you're hiring them and their fee is $2 million for an hour and a half festival appearance. They're probably going to say to you, depending on the negotiations, are probably going to say to you, we need 50% at least 30 days before the event and then we need 50% when we walk on stage. And by the time we get off stage, that better be in our account or there's going to be problems. And that's the manager's job of the band, is to make sure that they run around cracking heads if people aren't getting paid. And bands have, and they probably will in the future, you know, I would imagine. And this is just from stories that I've heard with much smaller festivals, there have been occurrences where a band is late to go on stage because the money hasn't hit their account yet. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Certainly happened.

[Brian Green]

Because that's the only thing they got. The only thing they got. They got is to withhold the presentation and if someone wants them to play. I remember when we put on Jam Land Productions. Put on.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

It all goes back to Jam Land.

[Brian Green]

Jam Land. Mountain Blues Fest. The Mountain Blues Fest. Jam Land Productions presents the Mountain Day. The North Georgia Mountain Blues Fest.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Bummed. We didn't know each other.

[Brian Green]

I know. It was really.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I would have been right there with you.

[Brian Green]

Of course you would have. You would have been like assistant associate, see it producer, running around bringing me beer and helping everybody get high or something. I don't know. But we showed up to this land up in the mountains, this beautiful cleared pasture. This guy owned a bunch of land. He had multiple, like, cleared pastures up in the mountains. And we said, okay, this is going to be the camping. This is where we're going to put the food. And the food, by the way, was one Papa John's who was taking a golf cart. You had to take a golf cart up the mountain because it was hard to get cars up there. So they were taking golf carts up and down the mountain, bringing pizzas and selling them by the slice. And we had.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Well, at least it was Papa John's pizza and not bologna sandwiches.

[Carl Lentz]

It was.

[Brian Green]

You're right.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

The fair enough people got fed and there was. We had kegs of beer up there and all that other stuff, but we, like went and bought them at the liquor store. It wasn't like we had a liquor purveyor sponsoring us. We had zero sponsors, but we had little vendors and stuff, you know, selling trinkets and shit like that. They sold zero trinkets, but okay, whatever. We had like a thousand people that showed up to this festival.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Who doesn't love a good blues fest?

[Brian Green]

That's right.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Well, Mountain Mountain blues.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Plus we just have some friends where you say party and they all show up. Right. And I'm sure we were charging like $15 to some people, right? It's most. We had, like, undercover cops show up.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, really?

[Brian Green]

Yes, we did. From the county that we were in. I'm not going to get into all the details, but the. We had security down at the bottom of the hill looking for, you know, for tickets and making sure that people didn't bring glass up there and stuff like that. You know, they were like loosely checking for shit. And we had hired them. They were like our friends, you know, you look mean. Go down there. And you know. And so anyway, some sort of muscle. The muscle knew some of the sheriff's officers from town. And a couple of them tried to get in the festival plain clothes. And the guys were like, radioing up to us, like, I got a couple of cops here trying to get in. What do you want me to do? And I was like, don't let him in. And they didn't let him in. And the cops had to get turned away because he just refused to let him in. And it was like private land. What are you going to do? Anyway, the point is, is that we had secured like, some. Okay, I think. I think Tinsley Ellis, if I'm not sure, was there. Donna Hopkins band. Like, there was some locally regional acts that you would, if you were familiar with. Yeah, John Skinny Fat, John Popper, you know, some local acts that. Oh, we had moonshine. Moonshine stills. Yeah. No, no, no. Moon Taxi. No Moon Taxi here.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Moonshine.

[Brian Green]

Moonshine Taxi. That's right. Moonshine Taxi. But so, like, we're up there two days ahead of time because the stage, we literally had to, like, take spiders off the stage. Like, it was just this old stage.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, it was already there.

[Brian Green]

It was already there. It had been set up by the guy for whatever reason, I'm not sure, but it's been there for years and years and years. And then we rented this equipment and they put. Anyway, the guy, my partner Pete, in the whole thing, he calls me and I'm up there and he says, listen, I have an opportunity to get perpetual groove up there.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

A pea groove.

[Brian Green]

Pea groove. And for a late night set closing out Saturday night, midnight to like 3am.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Everybody eat your drugs.

[Brian Green]

Everybody eat your drugs. Including PE Groove. We're all going to eat our drugs and do this together, right? And they were just like. They were well known, but like a regional act at the time. And so I was a little unconvinced because Pete says, we got to get together $5,000. Because I have 5,000. They want 10,000. I have five, they have five. And I don't know that these Numbers, like the exact numbers. But basically we had half and then we had to put in the other half. He said, so are you willing to forego $5,000 in profit on the festival? Which we weren't going to make anyway, but are you willing to forego in order to make it? And I said yes. And he ran around like a chicken with his head cut off trying to get form. Because back then it wasn't like you get on your phone and just like Zell somebody, $5,000. It was this whole ordeal. And I remember that PE group got there, they had played an early set somewhere else at like 7 o' clock and they got there right at midnight and we were all trying to set them up and they still hadn't been paid. And the guy from PE Group looked at me and he said, we're going to go because we're late. We're going to get on stage. But by the end of this, our manager's got to have that check. Like got to have that check in hand or there's going to be problems. And luckily we managed to pull it off. I don't know if the check cleared, but we managed to give them a check.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

We wrote them one.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, we bounced a check to Pee Group. But man, they played a set. They played a set, it was incredible. And then we all got on a golf cart after, like me and the singer and we got on a golf cart. We put the keg, like a pony keg on the back and we rode around and we gave people beers and other stuff. Yeah, that was the same festival where the guy cut his foot. Cause somebody brought glass cut his foot. He's like profusely bleeding, but he had a pocket full of percocets. So he was just like, kept chewing them and I was like, dude, you're gonna die. Don't stop that. Yeah, you're like on number five. I think it's good. Let's take you to the hospital. Eventually we got an ambulance up there.

[Carl Lentz]

Take him to the hospital.

[Brian Green]

He was, he was badly bleeding.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

The adventures of Jam Land Productions.

[Brian Green]

Jam Land Productions. Really the golden age for Peak Brian is Jam Land Productions. If I'm being honest, if I'm being self aware, Peak Brian is, is Jam Land Productions. Probably that night is Peak prime. Me pulling off bouncing a check to PE Groove, hoodwinking PE Groove into playing my 3am set at the North Georgia Mountain Blues Fest that went on to do no follow up concerts.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

First Annual.

[Brian Green]

Well, we did Mountain Jam, then we did Aqua Blues Fest and then we did Some other stuff, but, you know, it was hard. You can't make a living doing that.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

It's so hard.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I know. Even Jeff knows that. Even if you're well resourced and all the best intentions.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

A lot of work.

[Brian Green]

It's a lot of work. Yeah. To get you to year number two takes. Takes a lot. And what's Memphis on year number six?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

No, there. I think this is eight.

[Brian Green]

Oh, this is eight. We've been doing this for eight years.

[Carl Lentz]

Wow.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I think it was 2017 was the first, so. Yeah.

[Carl Lentz]

Okay. All right.

[Brian Green]

I remember Jeff talking about it, that when we went out to dinner and he'd be just excited because he had gotten the green light to go spend some money to do this. Yeah, he was all excited. I was like, well, whatever you need, bro. I had Jam Land Productions, so if you need me to be there, let me know. I, however, was waiting patiently by the phone and I still am, so tells you everything you need to know about Jeff's faith in Jam Land Productions. I remember he's outside and we were like, smoking a cigarette or something and he's like, yeah, bro, yeah, yeah, I got you.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah. Huh. Mm. Yep. Yeah.

[Jim (Touchdown Jim)]

No.

[Brian Green]

Well, it was worth a shot.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, you're welcome anytime.

[Brian Green]

Well, thank you. But will I get paid? That's the question. No.

[Carl Lentz]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

I got kids. Yeah, okay. I know. Tickets, I. I know that I got. But even that's hard. I mean, even that's hard, you know, it's so hard to get away an entire weekend. Maybe this year I'll ask Astrid, like, can I please go?

[Carl Lentz]

Please?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

She might let me. You never know. She's a sweet lady.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

She's so amazing.

[Brian Green]

If I really said, hey, babe, I really want to go to this, she would. We would figure out a way to make it happen.

[Carl Lentz]

But I always.

[Brian Green]

There's so much catholic guilt in me. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. I'd be like, ah, the fucking kids, the fucking dog and the fucking bills I gotta pay.

[Carl Lentz]

Blah, blah, blah.

[Brian Green]

All right, let's take a break. When we get back, I have a Carl Lentz update. Carl has posted an apology video online. It's about an hour long. We probably won't get to all of it, but I thought was the get it started. Let's see what it's all about and see what Carl's up to. You remember Carl, of course.

[Carl Lentz]

Hey, girl.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Hey, Carl.

[Carl Lentz]

Hey, girl.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Justin Bieber's best friend for a while.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Justin Bieber's preacher for a while.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Hillsong dude of the Year. The Hillsong dude of the Year. Victory V. Victory V. Hard to preach.

[Carl Lentz]

On a full dick. All right.

[Brian Green]

Gotta go, girl. All right, we'll get into Carl when we get back.

[Rachel (Voice of God on TCB)]

Let me do something Brian has never done.

[Brian Green]

Be brief.

[Rachel (Voice of God on TCB)]

Follow us on Instagram at the commercial break. Text or call us 212-4333, tcb. That's 212-433-3822. Visit our website tcbpodcast.com for all the audio, video, and your free sticker. Then watch all the [e-mail] thecommercial break and finally share the show. It's the best gift you could give a few aging podcasters. See, Brian, that really wasn't that difficult, now, was it? You're welcome.

[Brian Green]

All right, all right. I got my biebs hat on YouTube.com the commercial break. That's right, girl.

[Carl Lentz]

Hey, girl. All right, I gotta get my. I get my phone here just in case I gotta call somebody. Pick up the phone. See here. Hey, girl, that's a little loud. Hey, girl. All right, that's better. Oh, my God. I'm here to make an apology, girl, because I'm sorry I jizzed all over your mom's front door. But I did leave her. I did leave her a couple dollars just in case. Chrissy, what you up to over there?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, just hanging out. Carla missed you.

[Carl Lentz]

Listen, I've been talking to the Lord. I've been walking with the Lord this morning, and he said, you know what you need a new picture of tits. And I got a call from the Lord, and I answered it, and he said. And I said, all right, I'll give her a call. But this isn't me, you know? You understand? I'm just a vessel for the Lord. And I have a vessel, but just like a plane can't land with a full tank of gas. I can't preach with a full vessel. So I gotta release that vessel. But I don't want to make things messy for you and your husband. So just send that picture over, I'll release my vessel, and then we'll get on to preaching.

[Brian Green]

All right, well, I got a new.

[Carl Lentz]

Haircut, and I'm gonna say I'm sorry.

[Brian Green]

Here, I gotta let you go.

[Carl Lentz]

I'm gotta do this video.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Had to talk to you.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah, my wife wants me to make a video, tell the people I'm really sorry about all that stuff I did and in order. And, you know, we got kids. So she said, you better get on it, Carl. It only took me three Years.

[Brian Green]

But here I am.

[Carl Lentz]

Better late than never. Said God or Jesus or one of them in that Bible.

[Brian Green]

Okay, all right, I gotta go.

[Carl Lentz]

I gotta call Biebs.

[Brian Green]

Here's Carl in his basement. Seems like very, very nice house. I like Carl. Got a beautiful house. And he's got a single microphone. He's staring into the camera. And this is the beginning. We'll do some of his apology video.

[Carl Lentz]

I don't know how much of this.

[Brian Green]

Dribble I can get. Came out about three months ago.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, really?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. But you heard over here last, so. But I noticed that Carl has been on a lot of podcasts lately. Yeah.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Tour.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he's been doing the tour. And I also know. And a lot of them are religion related. And he's kind of doing the apology thing. And, you know, here's the things I did wrong and here's the things I learned. But one of the things I didn't know about Carl is that back then when he was hanging out with Biebs and all those people, he did impulsive. The Logan Paul podcast, you know, and that's one of the bigger YouTube channels in the world. And he was on that. It's like seven years ago, but he was on it. He was kind of a force to be reckoned with.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah, he was.

[Brian Green]

He was high and he had a force to be reckoned with.

[Carl Lentz]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

High up. He was high.

[Carl Lentz]

All right. All right.

[Brian Green]

Let's hear what a car is. Let's give him a shot.

[Carl Lentz]

Chrissy.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

Maybe he's a changed man.

[Laura Lentz]

In case you're just clicking on this and you don't have any idea about my.

[Brian Green]

Already with the music and multiple camera angles.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Really? Okay. All right. He's gonna keep it interesting. He knows how to produce a video.

[Laura Lentz]

My wife Laura, the Lentz family. We have been out of the public life and sphere.

[Brian Green]

Third woman in my throuple.

[Laura Lentz]

My maid for a couple years now. Actually, it's moving on about four years. And we went through some things because.

[Brian Green]

That'S an important thing to get across. It's been four years since you've seen me, and now it's time for me to reclaim my throne.

[Laura Lentz]

As a family that some people know about other people.

[Brian Green]

Trump's in office and I figure now's a better time to scam people than ever. So here I am.

[Laura Lentz]

Don't. But we're going to use everything we've been through to hopefully bring some new life and some new hope to people. And what you're going to see on these first couple episodes Especially this first one. You're going to see a couple that is healed and healing. And it hadn't been the case always for us. We haven't been at a place where we've been able to talk about our own life and our own pain, and we are now. So when you see us going through this story.

[Brian Green]

So good gravy, get on with it. Let's talk about the sucking in the fucking car.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

What are these episodes he's doing?

[Brian Green]

I guess he's doing a series of these, like a podcast, vodcast kind of thing. You know, Astrid says I sound like an old man when I say vodcast. A video, a podcast that's on video on YouTube. Yeah. You know, still seems full of. Yeah, still seems full of. And, you know, I think this was always the plan. Get out of the public eye for a while and then use the redemption story to make more money. Yep.

[Laura Lentz]

We're looking to the future. Cannot wait to talk about other things. But it's irresponsible for us not to talk about what happened because it was so public. And I think it's fair to be able to open it up and allow people to take from it what they can. So in this first episode, we're gonna answer some questions.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

You're a full blown other girlfriend.

[Carl Lentz]

I had a couple of them, Chris here. And I think it would be irresponsible of me to let all those women go without. Without making this video first. Listen, I'm not saying I'm a chain. What you're seeing here is a man who's healed and a man who's healing from his deep penile wounds.

[Brian Green]

And I don't take pictures of me.

[Carl Lentz]

I'm out of the public light. Can't take pictures.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I had to take a picture.

[Carl Lentz]

All right, all right. One picture. One picture. I'll sign it.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

The beaver hat is great.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah. All the girls, you gotta take a picture of me. I stand in the back, I'll autograph it with my hard sword of the Lord. I'm back, baby.

[Laura Lentz]

I'm back.

[Brian Green]

I love it.

[Carl Lentz]

I love the good gravy that comes from fame and fortune and money. Pennies from heaven, baby. Pennies from heaven.

[Brian Green]

I still got a beautiful house.

[Carl Lentz]

I've been laughing all the way to the bank. All right. And I got a new pair of.

[Brian Green]

Glasses from Warby Parker. This video is sponsored by Wabi Parker.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

He might have had some hair work done.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I got.

[Carl Lentz]

I hooked up with Frank Bernardo. I got Frankie's follicles. He had a hair Transplant his head to my head. And I said, listen, you're too old, but let me carry the cross. No pun intended. I got you. Give me your follicles. All right. And look at my beard. Salt and pepper.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah.

[Carl Lentz]

I'm a change man. And I still go to the tanning bed, though.

[Brian Green]

I got a nice tan.

[Carl Lentz]

I'll tell you what, four years in.

[Brian Green]

The sun, this has been a lot of fun.

[Carl Lentz]

We had a good time here at the Left household. Good time. Kids are healthy and in therapy and homeschooled. They can't go out in public, but it's okay. I'm back, baby.

[Brian Green]

Here I am.

[Carl Lentz]

I got a nice microphone. You see that?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah, it's nice. He's got a lot of gold chains on.

[Carl Lentz]

Oh, yeah, the gold chains.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, wait, does this one necklace have an L?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Probably because he's that kind of guy.

[Laura Lentz]

We'll have, like. Why has it taken us so long to talk? Why is Laura still married to me? Who's at fault? We handle some of the. Some of the real hard questions. And our.

[Carl Lentz]

Why is Bieber acting crazy? We're still in touch, me and Biebs. I say, hey, Biebs, come on over. We'll smoke a blunt, we'll get on pornhub, play a little B ball. We'll play a little basketball, a little B ball. I'm in my timeout period, but trust me, when I come back, you're gonna love it, Biebs. We'll be back together before too long. Paparazzi just waiting outside for us.

[Brian Green]

All right?

[Carl Lentz]

Okay. I gotta go.

[Laura Lentz]

Hope with this whole thing is that you can look at what's happened in our life and maybe you can recognize a little bit of your story in ours. And together we can all grow. So the future of the podcast is going to be me bringing on people that I love, that have changed my life, that have helped me heal, that are helping me heal, and that's the future.

[Carl Lentz]

But the right, including four time AVN winner Farrah Abraham.

[Brian Green]

Is my first guest. We both had a timeout, but now.

[Carl Lentz]

We'Re back preaching the. Preaching to the Lord, preaching the good word. Chrissy, the good word is sucking and fucking.

[Brian Green]

I love it.

[Carl Lentz]

It's a time honored tradition.

[Laura Lentz]

Us preachers, now this is our story. So for those of you that are brand new to this. We used to be a ministry. I made some mistakes that cost us a lot.

[Guest or Commentator]

Everything.

[Laura Lentz]

Talk about it all.

[Carl Lentz]

Not everything. Not everything. When I got caught, I gave my wife an ultimatum. I said, open marriage or I'M leaving, and all that money is in my chest hair. That's what they want. So the ladies want.

[Laura Lentz]

And. And now we're here, we're in this space, and I'm really excited about it. So thank you.

[Carl Lentz]

Which is a 5,000 square foot beautiful home overlooking Napa Valley.

[Brian Green]

So I want to thank you all very much.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah, the good years were good.

[Brian Green]

And I'm a good saver for checking it out.

[Laura Lentz]

Episode 1. Hope you enjoy it.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

B side.

[Carl Lentz]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

Download the app for additional content. Oh, Lord. Listen, I'm not arguing the guy's right to make money. And. And maybe this is a redemption story. Maybe he is learning some things from this. So I just want to be clear.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

You don't have to, but this is an improv on the redemption.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, but this is an improv comedy podcast. And as far as I'm concerned, it was all in the first place. And he's got. This is like Fyre Fest 2. You know what I'm saying? All right, Lights on. Lights on.

[Laura Lentz]

So when you. When you go through something like we've gone through a crisis or something, that's really hard. You either.

[Brian Green]

Oh, his wife is on the podcast.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Is that her?

[Brian Green]

Yes, that's her. Oh, okay.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

He's got his leather jacket on.

[Carl Lentz]

He's got his leather jacket on.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

It does. It does say l on that.

[Brian Green]

I despise you.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I thought his wife was blonde.

[Laura Lentz]

Break down.

[Brian Green]

And no, I think that was a girl you were sleeping with.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

No.

[Carl Lentz]

Okay.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Two different people. Or maybe this is the girl you're sleeping with.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah. I don't know. Who knows?

[Laura Lentz]

And let it define you for the rest of your life. Or you get up and you fight and you try to break through and remind yourself that we're all writing our story and nobody else can control the true, real narrative of your life. And we have had a journey of making sure we don't lay down.

[Brian Green]

I mean, am I right or am I right, Babe?

[Carl Lentz]

We've had a journey.

[Brian Green]

We're right now on the story.

[Carl Lentz]

All that slick, right, girl? Come on, girl. You knew it.

[Brian Green]

I.

[Laura Lentz]

And let a hard chapter define us.

[Brian Green]

And by hard chapter, I mean my dick.

[Laura Lentz]

So it's a real pleasure and a real honor to be sitting here a little bit surreal for me, my hope for this is that we can at least show people that there is another side to a tragic story. Because as it stood before, we've done this.

[Brian Green]

She looks like she wants. Yeah, I don't know. This is not tragic. This is you cheating. Cheat. Finding a girl in a Park.

[Laura Lentz]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

And sending her nude photographs and asking her to do the same and then sleeping with her and then repeated multiple affairs and then apparently other shenanigans that went on in the church. This is not tragic. This is. It's only tragic if it happens to you. She is part of the tragedy. You are the reason for the traffic. Yes, yes, it's not tragedy.

[Laura Lentz]

Haven't spoken, we haven't talked. We participated in a documentary which we'll talk about. But I think for us, you know, most of the people know one side of the story, which is, yes, it is true. I got fired from my job. I broke my marriage vows, I broke the trust of a lot of people. I had an amazing position as a pastor and a leader and I fell on my face. That is true. That's part of the story. And we're here today still alive, still married, still have the ability to get.

[Carl Lentz]

A real hot dick.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

It's the coming victory V. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Thanks to why Brian 3000 this episode.

[Carl Lentz]

Sponsored by Warby Parker. Why Brian 3000? Why Brian 3000 when you're in a hard position, use Y Brian 3000.

[Brian Green]

When you despise your wife and she despises.

[Carl Lentz]

You, why Brian 3000 overrides that overwhelming.

[Laura Lentz]

Urge to stay limp 21 years, shout out to you. Our family's stronger than ever.

[Carl Lentz]

And shout out to my wife.

[Brian Green]

Shout out to you. Which is what I was doing when.

[Carl Lentz]

I was screwing that 19 year old lovely.

[Brian Green]

I said, praise Jesus, praise my life.

[Laura Lentz]

And we have more joy and more peace than probably we've.

[Brian Green]

No, Carl, you have more joy. Okay, let's just be clear about that. This is your dumb idea for hat.

[Laura Lentz]

And that's part of the story. So I hope when people maybe do talk about something that we, hey, go cheat.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

You'll find more joy and happiness than you ever found.

[Brian Green]

Listen, on the other side, everybody loves a redemption story. Am I right or am I right? Don't you love a redemption story, honey?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Of course.

[Brian Green]

Let me put a lot of words in your mouth before you start talking. That's what's going on here.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Well, totally.

[Brian Green]

Yes. Yes.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

She's just sitting there.

[Brian Green]

She's just sitting there looking nervous and like she wants to crawl out of her skin angry with him, about to cry and he's just putting words in her mouth because he's, he's telling her the narrative he wants her to follow. And if I were in the same position, like true contriteness to true contrition comes from the ability to let other people tell you just how Hurt they have been by your actions without narrative. And that is the hardest kind of apology to make. Is where you have to sit there and listen.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Sure.

[Brian Green]

To just how terrible it was to bounce a check to P. Groove when they really needed that $5,000 and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Or when you promise people you're going to have a funny comedy podcast, but you keep showing up every day in the inbox for this dribble. I'm sorry. I really am. I'm sorry. That's not a narrative. That's just me.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, my God.

[Carl Lentz]

Apologize.

[Laura Lentz]

Both parts are true. We don't need to do this podcast. The world definitely doesn't need another podcast just to have one.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

But I feel what's going on in the background. Can we just look at this for a second?

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

There's a neon light.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Well, I don't know what. That's why I'm kind of confused, because he's got two camera angles, and so when the camera is at one angle, you can see this book. He looks like he's in, like, a lawyer's office with this law books in the back.

[Carl Lentz]

This is my sex dungeon.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

And a hand, like, with a peas. Doing the peas symbol.

[Carl Lentz]

No, no, no, no, Chrissy. That's a heavenly penis jizzing as a jizzing accent. I don't know if you get that. So I told my wife, I said, if we're going to do this podcast, let's do it in our red room.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Downstairs in our dungeon.

[Carl Lentz]

No, not sex dungeon. I appreciate it.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

But then from this angle now, you see some kind of a neon in the back and a lion, maybe statue.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Well, the first part of this, I think, was, like, preemptive, and he was in a different location.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

No, no, I know that. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I don't know. I don't know what's going on here.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

But it certainly does super, like, 4K, 8K, like, lighting has been obviously done up correctly.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Carl, can you help us? Yeah.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Seriously?

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Laura Lentz]

To share what's happened in our journey. Because we. We have led a lot of people in our lives. And up until this point, I think there's people who are interested to see what. What we're. What I'm gonna do with this. What you're gonna do with this. What happened to our marriage, what happened to our lives? And so we're gonna use every bit of this to give people hope.

[Guest or Commentator]

I think people see people fall and fail, and they kind of like that. But it's like, I think there's also this other side of redemption and this other side of, like, no, but you can get up again and you can.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Make money from it.

[Brian Green]

And I think, yes, yes. I think you can get up again, and I think you can replenish your bank account by telling people you are still godly and have them show up every.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

What were they gonna do each on their own?

[Brian Green]

Well, I was gonna do only fans, and Carl was gonna go on to only Bieber. Yeah, Onlyfans.

[Carl Lentz]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

Carl was gonna sleep with Haley Bieber.

[Guest or Commentator]

For us, our story has been that, you know, it was kind of. It was out there for a lot of people to see and which was really hard. But I think this side they also can see is the. The healing and the what can happen when you work hard at a relationship.

[Laura Lentz]

Yeah. And I think people don't sometimes understand that talking about this stuff, it is hard. It is triggering.

[Brian Green]

I don't know. Why is he sitting on his stool and he's so quick to interrupt her? This sounds like an episode of the commercial break, a TCB infomercial with Kathleen Madigan. I mean, if we're all healing and apologizing, let's do it now. I'm sorry to Kathleen Madigan for apparently interrupting you too much. Kathleen didn't say that. I didn't think I did either, but everybody on YouTube agrees Brian's an asshole. So let me start my apology right here.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah, get up on a stool.

[Carl Lentz]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

All right, I know we're only, like.

[Carl Lentz]

One minute into this, but we're going.

[Brian Green]

To have to take a break. We might have to get back to this next week, but. All right, let's take a break. And we get back. We'll try and plow through a little bit more of this dribble.

[Carl Lentz]

We'll be back.

[Rachel (Voice of God on TCB)]

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[Brian Green]

All right, back here with Carl Lentz on his apology tour, Episode number one of his apology podcast, apparently. Turn the light on or down or something. I'm not sure. We'll get back to it. Here we go.

[Laura Lentz]

We have put to rest a lot of things. But bringing this up, it's another credit to you for being brave enough to talk about this. Because for me, a lot of it is humiliating. A lot of it is embarrassing. A lot of it is you just want to look at it and shake your head. But we're choosing to go. The least I can do is put our story out there and say, hey, if this helps you avoid the pain and the tears, so thank you for even.

[Carl Lentz]

The least I could do is get a book deal with Simon Schuster and put some more money in our bank account.

[Brian Green]

You know what I'm saying? Right?

[Carl Lentz]

I'd like to announce Carl coin, sponsored by Y Brian 3000 Carl coin, now available on all major crypto. Also known as Cox for Christ coin.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Swords for the Lord.

[Carl Lentz]

Sword for the Lord. The hard sword of the Lord is my new church. We're going to be female focused. I want to give back to the ladies. I know I've done you wrong. So I'll be. I'll be teaching pole dancing on Sunday, Mud wrestling on Monday nights for the kids. It's going to be fun. We're gonna have fun at this church.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Female focused.

[Carl Lentz]

Female focused. Female focused. I'm sorry. Focused. I meant focused. I'm sorry. Okay, honey, back to you. What did you have to say?

[Brian Green]

You were talking.

[Carl Lentz]

I'm sorry.

[Laura Lentz]

Agreeing to do this, you know, it's a big deal. I know it's been emotional for both of us, and I know. I know it's gonna be worth it. So that's what we're gonna do on this, on this podcast, and especially early on, we're gonna talk about our story.

[Brian Green]

Okay, get to it. I know we've been talking about what we're gonna talk about.

[Laura Lentz]

Let's talk about it, because everybody else has. And I think it feels good. It feels natural. To be able to speak to it. And then we're.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah, that looks totally natural.

[Brian Green]

It feels good.

[Carl Lentz]

I feel great. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling great.

[Brian Green]

What about you, honey?

[Carl Lentz]

You're feeling great. Keep her mic muted, please. You're feeling great. Yes. Nod your head if you need help. Blink twice.

[Brian Green]

You're feeling great. I'm feeling great.

[Carl Lentz]

Everybody loves this. This is wonderful.

[Brian Green]

This is high energy. Stuff.

[Carl Lentz]

Stuff. High in it.

[Laura Lentz]

Do different things. But as it stands right now, we're going to try to answer as many questions that we've been told by people we love.

[Brian Green]

We.

[Laura Lentz]

We asked around. So what do you think would help people the most? What are the questions that people are asking? And some of them are like, ah.

[Carl Lentz]

For you to move to Thailand, never.

[Brian Green]

To be heard from again.

[Laura Lentz]

And so we're going to do that. We're just going to go question for question and. And see where we go, but with the hopes that people will be able to look into.

[Brian Green]

You're going to take questions. Why didn't you let us know ahead of time? Yeah, I have questions. I got lots of questions. Like, how much does that Rolex cost on your list?

[Laura Lentz]

Yeah, this thing. And go. I can glean from that. I won't do that. And that's our story as we know it. So I'm gonna. Whatever you want to say, whatever you want to ask. Shoot for the stars.

[Guest or Commentator]

Yeah. So I get a lot of women and men on my DMs or, you know, reaching out to me who have gone through similar situations. And so that's why I wanted to do this, because it's hard to answer a lot of things for in that setting, but to be able to share our story and help people in that setting.

[Carl Lentz]

I hear you, girl.

[Brian Green]

Excuse me for a second. I'm gonna. I'm gonna rub myself, if you don't mind.

[Carl Lentz]

You're looking sexy today, girl.

[Brian Green]

Mm.

[Guest or Commentator]

That may be struggling or don't know what to do in. Whatever.

[Carl Lentz]

What's that?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

It's got a neon cross in the back.

[Brian Green]

The Motley Crue neon cross.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

The cross you don't find often at churches.

[Guest or Commentator]

I'm hoping that this is going to help them with, you know, whatever they're going through.

[Laura Lentz]

There's no way it can't.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

No.

[Laura Lentz]

Have you found. I think this is interesting.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

There's no way it can.

[Brian Green]

No way it can. I'm. I'm. I was too important. I'm too important. I think too much of myself.

[Laura Lentz]

What a marriage breakdown and a church breakdown looks like from a different Side. And I think I would never have known what I feel like I know now about it, how lonely it is, how hard it is, how. And we've seen people reach out that have just been through so much stuff and they've just been out there floating around.

[Guest or Commentator]

Yeah.

[Laura Lentz]

And I didn't realize that was like.

[Guest or Commentator]

A real thing can be worse than ours.

[Brian Green]

Ours was just public and it can be worse. It can be worse than cheating in a marriage that happens to 50% of marriages.

[Carl Lentz]

It's.

[Brian Green]

This is just. You guys are pretending like you're the.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Ground zero for all things terrible that happened. You brought this on yourself, Carl.

[Laura Lentz]

We had amazing. We had amazing friends that stepped up and helped us, but that's not the case for a lot of people. Yeah, we had some support systems with our family. That's not the case with a lot of people. And you just don't know. You don't know what to do. And so I look forward to that changing. We can be a part of that, you know, and people are in marriage situations where you feel lonely and you feel like you can't get through it. We are evidence, absolute evidence that you can, you know, and that there's. There's hope. After a lot of pain, there's still.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Time actually for it to fall apart.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Don't worry, Carl. You'll fuck it up sooner or later. I'm sure of it. First of all. Second of all, I mean, he's falling short of saying, call me if you have a problem. I can only imagine. I can only imagine what it must be like to have a fam. To like cheat on your spouse and then so publicly have a blow up and then have to show up at Thanksgiving dinner with your spouse's family. It's gotta be the most uncomfortable thing in the world, but you gotta do it, you know, you gotta do it. If you want to stay with your loved one. You gotta do that money in the future. That's right.

[Guest or Commentator]

And you said. You said before, like, we're gonna tell our story and then we'll move on. I don't know that we'll ever move on from it. It's kind of.

[Laura Lentz]

Yeah.

[Guest or Commentator]

It's a part of our life and so probably through this. Yeah.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

But he wants to move.

[Brian Green]

I don't know that I'll ever let you forget it, but yeah, he wants to move on.

[Carl Lentz]

That's right.

[Guest or Commentator]

Us. It is going to come up in different ways. Yeah. So, yeah, I wanted to ask you some questions.

[Laura Lentz]

Yes, ma'.

[Guest or Commentator]

Am. That I think people want to know, especially because, you know, I was telling you about this, but you kind of. Three years ago, stuff happened. You, you know, apologize publicly and.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Like an Instagram post.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he did. Yeah, it was like an Instagram post. Like, hey, yeah, I've been the hot maid.

[Carl Lentz]

Hey, listen, yeah, I've been fucking the hot maid. But all things considered, I have been doing a lot of preaching too. So I figured, what, it's like a scale. It's bad and there's good.

[Brian Green]

I show up to church every Sunday, I wipe my sins clean, and then I wipe my dick on somebody's curtains.

[Carl Lentz]

Okay, all right.

[Brian Green]

What's worse?

[Carl Lentz]

Honestly? Let's be real. Who's not jizzing on the curtains?

[Guest or Commentator]

And so I think a lot of people are like, what's happened? Like, what's. You know, they probably have a lot of things that they think about you and things that they've seen in the media, things that people have talked about that we haven't answered.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I mean, like, everybody's just been on baited breath waiting to see what they have been doing for three years.

[Brian Green]

I've been in a constant state of depressive solitude since Carl's Instagram post, waiting for Carl to answer my questions about what happened. Though it seems pretty clear what happened. There was a hot chick at the park and you fucked her and you got caught. Yes. She decided to tell the world you fucked her.

[Guest or Commentator]

Maybe you talking about if I ask you the questions and then you.

[Carl Lentz]

Perfect.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, perfect. Great, go do it. I'm embarrassed, but go ahead. Yeah, I want to crawl inside a hole and die, but sure, no problem. I'm here.

[Laura Lentz]

Yeah, perfect.

[Brian Green]

Could be fun. It could be fun for her because she's like, I'm just. I just want to throw you against a wall.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Here's a roast I would like to see.

[Brian Green]

Yes, this is the roast. It's coming.

[Carl Lentz]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

Okay, let's go through it.

[Guest or Commentator]

Okay, so why, firstly, why do you think we waited so long? Or why did you wait so long to talk?

[Carl Lentz]

What?

[Laura Lentz]

We waited.

[Brian Green]

That's not a great question.

[Carl Lentz]

No.

[Brian Green]

What happened?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Right.

[Brian Green]

How did you meet her? What did she look like? What birthmarks did she have? Was she.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Why did you.

[Brian Green]

Better in bed?

[Carl Lentz]

Yes, all the things.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

A full blown relationship with her.

[Brian Green]

He did. He was like dropping stacks of money off at her mom's house or something.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

He didn't even tell her he was married at first.

[Brian Green]

That's right. And he was sending like weird photographs from the car. And I'm on my way to the side to meet the Lord and here's.

[Carl Lentz]

My dick and.

[Laura Lentz]

Belong to talk. Because we had a bigger priority, which was to save our family.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yes.

[Laura Lentz]

More accurately, for me to save my own life and then work to try to save our marriage and then work to try to save our family. And very difficult because my instinct is to go to war immediately.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Say my own instinct. Is that the order.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Is that the order in which things needed to be taken care of? First and foremost, I need it. Yeah. First.

[Carl Lentz]

First and foremost, finish myself off so I didn't get blue balls. Second of all, take lots of pictures so I had material to not have blue balls in the future. Third, take all the money I could from the church. Fourth, call you and tell you there.

[Brian Green]

May or may not be a TMZ.

[Carl Lentz]

Article coming out and could I pay you to stay around. And then number three, the kids are somewhere, and I don't know, they're no 12 or something. 13. But click and subscribe. Like and comment on your favorite videos.

[Brian Green]

Go to our Patreon.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Why does he have a QR code popped up?

[Brian Green]

Because there's a Patreon. So, you know, he's selling a book or some.

[Carl Lentz]

Who knows?

[Brian Green]

Defend myself, get ad free episodes here. So he has a Patreon.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

We're gonna have ads.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Well, no, we aren't. But the people who watch this regularly.

[Laura Lentz]

Will give context, give clarity. And the way all that went down, they. We had to make a choice right up front, which way are we going to handle this chapter? And for me and you, I think the best advice that we got was, you cannot for me, you cannot save face and save your life at the same time. I remember hearing that going, well, that doesn't work for me because I want to salvage my reputation. I want to tell people what happened. I want to do all this stuff.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah, that's all he cared about was his reputation.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's it. I want to salvage my reputation. You just hurt the woman. The thing about being famous is I imagine. I don't know, but I imagine is that everything is amplified. And the people in your life sometimes didn't choose that amplification. They didn't choose to make the speaker so loud. And so when you do something like this, when you fail the church, when you fail your marriage, when you're cheating on your spouse and your kids know about it is that it's everywhere, all the time, and all you care about is your reputation. How about caring about the feelings and protecting the people that you love? Or trying to, you know, they may not necessarily want your protection in that moment. But trying to shield them from some of this by coming out and immediately saying, this is what I did. I'm sorry I did jizz on the curtains.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I'm laughing. Your hat, it's so great.

[Brian Green]

It's hard to preach on a full dick. It's hard to preach with a beaver hat on.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I was gonna say preach it. Bongo Brian.

[Brian Green]

Cartoon Mickey.

[Carl Lentz]

What was his name?

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Cowboy Kid.

[Brian Green]

Cowboy Kid.

[Carl Lentz]

There you go.

[Laura Lentz]

And I need to get in a place of healing because I am in deep, deep trouble. And I remember we chose.

[Brian Green]

That's an understatement.

[Laura Lentz]

Healing over reputation protection. It's very difficult. Wasn't easy.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Just all about the him, him, him, reputation. What did I look like? What was going on?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he. I think he's a narcissist. But I think you have to be a narcissist to believe you're the one that's talking to God and everybody else needs to talk through you. And I think that's a certain kind.

[Carl Lentz]

Of sickness, if I'm being honest.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Laura Lentz]

Got the better, the better it got. It didn't mean the voices ever went away or you could see things out of the corner of your eye or hear stories or see things being spun. But once you make that choice to go, I don't really care. At the end of the day, there's nothing to salvage here. People are going to think what they're going to think. All I care about is trying to save what matters. All I care about is trying to save this family.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Think what they're going to think. I mean. Well, it was just kind of cut and dry.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. There's nothing else to say.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Like somebody's opinion. You cheated.

[Brian Green]

And listen, can I just be clear about this? You cheated on your wife. You didn't murder anybody. This happens all the time. All the time. I'm not trying to wash away the pain that it caused everybody else in your life, but I'm saying this isn't like the world's most surprising sin. You are in good company. When it comes to preachers who have cheated on their wives or had sex affairs or whatever, you're in good company. It's kind of like part and parcel, you know, milk and cookies, coffee and cream. Preachers and extramarital affairs. It happens.

[Laura Lentz]

I was in really, really, really deep, deep trouble. And I remember immediately thinking that this is going to be a different road. The night, the night that all that stuff went down, or the day after at least, you know, we were. We were staying at a friend's house because we had sold our house and we're in New York. In New York, New Jersey. Yeah. And staying in a friend's house in Brooklyn and they graciously let us use their apartment. And when all this stuff went down, we were obviously just shell shocked. Reeling.

[Brian Green]

Why were you shell shocked? You knew the whole time.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Why?

[Brian Green]

We were shell shocked. Shell shocked. You knew the whole time. You were a part of it. Your dick was there.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Right. And they were staying at somebody's house.

[Brian Green]

Staying at a friend's house. That had been really weird dinner conversation. So, Carl, I don't know if you've read any newspaper ever today, but it says here you were dicking down some girl you met at the doggy park.

[Carl Lentz]

Yeah.

[Laura Lentz]

It makes me feel weird to even talk about it, but then I got a call from the person who lives there and he said basically, I want, you know, with somebody that, you know, worked for him. He said, you guys have to leave because the owner of this place does not want to be associated with you.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, so it was like a friend's place. Oh, damn.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it was probably a church related property, is my guess.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

It's probably Bieber.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's probably Biebs. Yes, you might be right. Yeah, you might be right about that. Yeah.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Probably with some kind of celebrity.

[Brian Green]

So. Some kind of celebrity. Somebody associated with the church, somebody, you know, high up, a politician, whatever.

[Laura Lentz]

Like where, where does he want us to go? He's like, doesn't care. He wants you out within a couple of hours. And we are. All of our stuff's here. Our kids are here. There's, you know, some photographers and reporters around taking photos and all this stuff is flying around. Our kids are like, what's going on? I remember we had to take everything we have in this apartment. Daddy didn't put it on the sheet.

[Brian Green]

Daddy, what's a hard sword of the Lord? Daddy, who's that? Oh, that's, that's Auntie Stardust. Daddy met her at a special club for heavenly adults late at night in Brooklyn.

[Laura Lentz]

And then we got a U Haul and a U Haul van and we're just throwing stuff in there and our kids still don't really know what's going on. And we're just, you know, I'm in like a weird comatose trance mode of just don't even know where I am. You're trying to survive. And me and Roman were in the U Haul and we just started driving. You were.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

I would have been running around with a butcher knife.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God. I would not have been. Want to be in 50 yards of that woman that night for sure. And I do can. I can kind of understand. We all understand the stress of being caught in the corner and, like, don't know what to do, don't know where to go. We've all been in. If you've lived enough life, you've been in some situation that you've probably gotten yourself into that you don't know how you get yourself out of, that's very stressful. And that feeling of just like, what do I do now? What do I do now?

[Laura Lentz]

We started driving. I remember getting on the highway, you pulling out of, you know, Williamsburg, Brooklyn. And I just remember thinking, like, what. What are we doing? Where are we gonna go? And Roman's next to me. He's my little guy still. He's, dad, what are we doing? Why?

[Carl Lentz]

Why.

[Laura Lentz]

Why don't we have anywhere to go? And I couldn't get a hold of anybody at. At that point.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah, no one was taking your calls.

[Brian Green]

So I called Stardust and we stayed at her house for the next couple of weeks.

[Rachel (Voice of God on TCB)]

Yeah.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

What do you mean, where do we go? I mean, they had to have, like, hotel. Hotel.

[Brian Green]

Exactly. That's where you go. That's where people go when they need a place to stay is a hotel, an Airbnb, something. Rent a home real quick. I don't know. You know, you can rent a home overnight.

[Laura Lentz]

Almost as a lot of people were kind of going to handle this however way they're going to handle it. And we finally found our friend Kim Clark, who said, come and stay with us in Connecticut. And our first couple nights, we really felt like, man, the whole world has ended. You know, we have been.

[Guest or Commentator]

It was Covid as well. So weird.

[Laura Lentz]

We have no idea which way is up right now.

[Carl Lentz]

We're.

[Laura Lentz]

We're in trouble. And that was one of those nights I'll never forget. I'll never forget sitting in that car.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Yeah, I bet.

[Laura Lentz]

My boy, with all.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I bet that was one of the most intense feelings I do have empathy for. Even if you got yourself into the situation, the. It never feels good. That kind of stress never feels good. And with children, every move that you make is also amplified. And so I can't imagine being in a similar situation in a U Haul van, driving around, nowhere to go. What do we do? Kids. Kids are too young to understand what's going on, so. But, hey, at least you don't have blue balls.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, exactly. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

At least you didn't preach on a full deck. That's right.

[Laura Lentz]

Belongings into U Hauls. Going like, what?

[Carl Lentz]

What. How did I get here?

[Laura Lentz]

Like, is this real life? And that's. That's why we follow us on our family. For me, being a control guy, letting it go was not easy.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Which part? The girl or.

[Carl Lentz]

Oh, I let it go. All right. I was letting it go all over the place.

[Brian Green]

I'll tell you what.

[Carl Lentz]

I let it go on Tuesday, then on Thursday morning, then by myself on Friday, and then the church parking lot.

[Brian Green]

I was just letting it go.

[Carl Lentz]

For a control guy, that was kind of hard, I'll tell you. That was.

[Brian Green]

All right, well, listen, we can't do Carl forever. I wish we could. We can get back to it, though. We want to go more into it because now I'm kind of interested.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Me, too.

[Brian Green]

Now I'm like, okay, what did happen? Like, what is the minutiae of how this all went down? See, he's getting me now. He's roping me into his silly story. God damn it.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

It's the good lighting and microphone.

[Brian Green]

Yes, it is the good lighting and microphone. You know, there's a reason why people liked him is because he's an engaging character. Right. But most narcissists are engaging characters. And I do feel for her. She had. She. This is not her fault. And so I have a lot of empathy for where she's at, and I can only imagine what she was feeling at this time.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Green]

Like, he's talking about how he's feeling, but how was she. It is all about him, But. But let's be honest.

[Carl Lentz]

It's.

[Brian Green]

It was always all about him. And she knows that.

[Carl Lentz]

She's.

[Brian Green]

She married him. She knows what's going on. Well, and then Hillsong Church is no more either. The church that he.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Well, then, didn't it turn out that there was other stuff going on with the original founders?

[Brian Green]

All kind of. Yeah. And they paid, you know, high praised attorneys to. It's just all shenanigans. It's like, you know, I'm not against religion.

[Laura Lentz]

No.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

There's some really good churches.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Chris Enjoy Hoadley]

Around. It's the ones that want to be famous and make.

[Brian Green]

It's the ones that become all powerful, that just really just start to destroy lives in so many different ways. And Carl is a testament to that. When you're a rock star preacher, you know, and you're playing fast and loose, you got a bunch of. Yeah. Full dick. You gotta empty it. Oh, all right. Well, listen, maybe we'll get back to Carl next week. Maybe we won't. Hope you have a good weekend. And all that jazz tcbpodcast.com that's where you go to find out more information about Chrissy and I. All the audio, all the video right there from one location. No muss, no fuss. You can just go there and you know, do the URL thing if that's what you're into. Also, you can get your free TCB sticker by hitting the contact us button. Drop down menu says I want my free sticker. Give us your physical address. Address. Astrid will send you one. You want us to sign it or something like that? Just let us know in the con, in the, in the email and we'll do our best to get that out to you. Add the commercial break on Instagram, TCB podcast on tick tock and YouTube.com the commercial break for all the episodes on video the same day. They air here on the audio 212-4333 tcb 212-433-3822 questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas? Or leave us a voicemail if you want to be on the next episode. Okay Chrissy, that's all I can do for today, but I'll tell you that I love you. I'll say best to you and best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I will.

[Carl Lentz]

Say we do say and we must say goodbye, Sam.