See Ya Later Alligator!

Summary

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Episode Overview

Podcast: The Commercial Break
Episode: See Ya Later Alligator!
Hosts: Bryan Green, Krissy Hoadley, Jake
Date: April 30, 2025

In this episode, Bryan, Krissy, and guest Jake dive headfirst into the wilds of the Southern US—both literally and figuratively. They riff on eccentric alligator farm stories, the perils and hilarity of gator tours, Jake Paul's Georgia land purchase (and the wild wildlife that comes with it), and give a withering comic breakdown of the latest Fyre Festival saga. Rounding out the chaos: music festival talk focusing on Widespread Panic and jam band culture, with their signature rambling, improv-heavy banter. Expect Southern gothic meets irreverent podcasting at its most unfiltered.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Teen Slang Satire & Old-School Media (00:03–01:52)

• Opens with a parody "news piece" led by Andy Dandy, satirizing local news reports trying (and failing) to understand teen lingo in 2025.
• "Clutch the Pearls," "MacGyver," and "Norville" get lampooned as 'new' phrases, poking fun at media cluelessness about youth culture.

Memorable Moment:
Andy Dandy mock-confesses: “I MacGyvered my way out of the bar last night because I was bucked. And man, was it a Black and Decker to get a taxi home.” (01:27)

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2. Jake Paul Buys a Swamp: Southern Georgia Tangents (03:00–09:36)

• Hosts riff about Jake Paul buying 5,600 acres in South Georgia for $42 million.
• Bryan hilariously laments missing out on the same land in failed real estate deals.
• The talk veers into the wildness of South Georgia: remote, filled with "swampy swamps," alligators, huge snakes (many released exotic pets), and local oddities.

Quote:
“Luck favors the bold, but they were bold at the right time, in the right place and they rode that YouTube wave all the way to billionaires essentially.” — Bryan (05:23)

• Jokes about the difference between doing ayahuasca when stressed about finances vs. doing ayahuasca as a multi-millionaire.
• Implores listeners: stop releasing giant snakes into the wild—"Don’t get a snake or a dog or a cat or anything that you can't take care of. Please, please." (08:18)

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3. Everglades & Alligator Tour Storytime (10:10–23:39)

• Extended, comical recounting of Bryan’s alligator tour in Florida (Naples/Everglades) with his wife, in-laws, and young child.

Highlights:

• Pulling into “Bob’s Gator Shack” on a straight, deserted swamp road.
• Discovering a 15-foot alligator ("Lucy") on the deck, mouth open. Bryan panics for his son’s safety.
• Drolly notes the staff are on a first-name basis with the giant gators.
• Story of Lucy the alligator: escapes, chicken bribes, and doorknob-changing, delivered deadpan in a deep-fried southern accent.

Notable exchange:

Chrissy (as gator-farmer): "One time it done left the place unlocked and Lucy done crawled up, used her paw and opened up the door..." (02:11 & 18:11)

• Airboat ride chaos: no seat belts, rampaging through mangrove “tunnels,” unphased guides feeding gators marshmallows against regulations (“if you allow me a point of privilege… I done got some marshmallows in my pocket…” (21:11)).
• The hosts break at the surreal, casual danger of the experience.

Memorable Momemnt:
“I am not on a first name basis with the alligator. And neither is my one year old, who probably looks much like that chicken did to a gator with bad eyesight and huge teeth.” — Bryan (19:11)

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4. Living with Gators — Golf Greens & Growing Up in the South (23:39–25:51)

• Jake and Bryan swap stories of gators sunbathing on Georgia and Florida golf courses.
• Touch on regional experiences—if you live in the Southeast, you’ve had near-reptilian run-ins, especially on the links.

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5. Fyre Fest 2: Billy McFarland Rant & Commercialization (25:51–42:45)

• The hosts unpack the ever-Escalating dumpster fire of Fyre Fest 2.
• Bryan recaps Fyre Fest's repeated collapse, the recent “license/IP” saga, and pillsory the PR-speak of Billy McFarland’s press release.

Notable Quotes:

“Fire is the most powerful attention engine in the world. Fuck you, shithead.” — Bryan (29:46)
“The next chapter of Fyre will be bigger, better, and built to last. Without me at the helm.”
Chrissy: “Well, that’s the best sentence in this entire firefighter.” (38:44)

• Satirize Billy’s attempts to spin failure into “cultural capital,” his likely attempts to sell the Fyre brand to new grifters (“Grant Cardone next?”), and mock the breathless language of the official statements.
• Bryan fake-fills out the official Fyre Fest “make your offer” form—entering ridiculous information ('Wendy the Alligator' is their CEO and offering $1 trillion billion “unless they can borrow the money”). (41:01–41:57)
• They lampoon the idea of "Fyre Fest: The Musical" and the weird afterlife of doomed brands on streaming platforms.

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6. Music Festivals & Widespread Panic — Jam Band Reveries (45:27–56:45)

• Discuss upcoming Mempho Music Festival 2025 headliners: Widespread Panic, Tyler Childers, and more.
• Breakdown of the Widespread Panic fan culture, stories of college days on tour, and role in Georgia musical lore.
• Bryan relates the surreal moment of seeing Chrissy’s face in an old concert photo on a friend’s wall—classic “everyone’s connected” southern moment.

Quote:
“If you can do a giggle or a wiggle, and if you can do a little jiggle, if you can do the White Man’s Shuffle, then you can show up at a Widespread Panic concert and have fun, too.” — Bryan (52:09)

• Share stories about festivals, old sticker swag, and podcast attempts to record on-location at noisy venues.

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7. Allman Brothers & the ‘Jam’ Legacy (57:13–60:18)

• Reminisce about the Allman Brothers’ legacy, their recent reunion run at Madison Square Garden, and why jam bands endure.
• Touch on the tragedy and triumph of the Allman Brothers saga (“Their story is really amazing and tragic,” Jake, 59:46), recommend Gregg Allman's autobiography My Cross to Bear.

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8. Comedy Bids, Upcoming Shows, and Self-Deprecation (61:03–end)

• The hosts run through upcoming show plans: “America’s Next Top Mediocre Comedy Podcaster,” upcoming marathon anniversary episodes, and (self-skewering) why anyone would agree to be a guest.
• Classic Commercial Break irony—“Why would they come on The Commercial Break? Why would they? On your way up, or on your way down.”

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Luck favors the bold, but they were bold at the right time, rode that YouTube wave all the way to billionaires.” — Bryan (05:23)
• “Oh, yeah, we got a crocodile farm…we done raised them from the babies and then we make them into meat and clothing…” — Chrissy (as farmer) (02:04, 17:54, 18:06)
• “We tried to get Lucy out...had to go get a chicken down the road, crack its neck and get Lucy out with the chicken.” — Chrissy, in character (02:11, 18:11)
• “I am not on a first name basis with the alligator.” — Bryan (19:11)
• “I have never heard so much bullshit ever…” — Bryan (decoding Fyre Fest press release) (31:24)
• “Here’s a tip. Don’t feed Susie Lu.” — Chrissy (23:30)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Start | End | Notes | |----------------------------------------|---------|---------|----------------------------------------------| | News parody on teen lingo | 00:03 | 01:52 | Andy Dandy, “MacGyvered my way…” | | Jake Paul land purchase & ayahuasca | 03:00 | 09:36 | Wealth, South Georgia wildlife humor | | Alligator airboat story & Lucy | 13:03 | 23:39 | Deck gator encounter, Lucy tales | | Bryan submits fake Fyre Fest offer | 41:01 | 41:57 | “Wendy the Alligator…” | | Widespread Panic/Mempho Festival talk | 45:27 | 56:45 | Lineups, jam band memories | | Allman Brothers legacy | 57:13 | 60:18 | Concerts, Gregg’s book | | Upcoming podcast plans/jokes | 61:03 | end | Anniversary marathons, guest self-roasting |

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Tone and Style

• Language: Conversational, irreverent, frequently self-deprecating.
• Running Gags: Excess animal stories (esp. alligators), disastrous event planning, insults aimed at scam artists and influencers, running tally of failed investments.
• Energy: Hyperactive, tangent-prone, plenty of deadpan and character voices.

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Summary Takeaways

Fans of improv banter, southern flavor, and roasts of scammy pop culture icons will find this episode a rollicking listen. The show leans into its “chaotic, unpolished charm,” letting stories about alligators, music festivals, and infamous grifters spiral organically. Most memorable is the detailed airboat/gator farm adventure—parsing the utter weirdness of treating giant reptiles like family pets—and the relentless skewering of Fyre Fest’s never-ending collapse. Interspersed: genuine camaraderie and shared southern nostalgia, all wrapped in a tongue-in-cheek package.

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Best for listeners who enjoy:

• Unscripted, absurd storytelling
• Satirical pop culture commentary
• Southern humor & jam band subculture
• Mocking con artists and influencer excesses

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Transcript

[Andy Dandy]

And welcome back to WSHIT. It's 8:02 on the studio clock. I'm Andy Dandy, your man on the streets. In a continuing effort to keep parents in the loop about teenage behaviors in the age of the Internet, WSHIT continues its series on teenage verbiage. You never know what those teenagers might be talking about in their AOL chat rooms or through their Yahoo email accounts. Our reporter Jim Swagger got to the bottom of some of the more notable phrases people being used by the teens today. Let's take a listen.

[Brian Green]

Here are some other phrases you want to know if you want to be sure to sound hip. Yo. A greeting. Yo, Curve, what's up? Clutch the Pearls said in amazement or disbelief. Well, you know, he's married.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Clutch the Pearls bucked.

[Brian Green]

I don't know how many I had, but boy, did I get bucked. I sure felt that the next morning that was really the worst thing I'd ever done. I hope you didn't drive home. No way. MacGyver is in the TV show where the impossible is often accomplished. I can't believe you got off that speeding ticket. What a MacGyver Norville to secretly undermine what?

[Jake]

I can't believe she stole your job. You've really been Norvilled Black and Decker.

[Brian Green]

Or a real tough assignment. You get the analogy, right? This job is a real grind. It's just a Black and Decker. Some phrases may be around forever.

[Andy Dandy]

Highly informative piece turned in by Jim there. It's the year 2025 and technology's moving faster than ever. I know I came away just a little bit more informed and possibly a little. As a matter of fact, I MacGyvered my way out of the bar last night because I was bucked. And man, was it a Black and Decker to get a taxi home. We'll be back after this commercial break.

[Brian Green]

On this episode of the commercial break.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah, we got a crocodile farm. You know, alligator farm. We done raised them from the babies and then we make them into meat and clothing and stuff like that.

[Brian Green]

We sell them all and we're like, oh.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

And then Bob's like, yeah, see, that's Lucy.

[Brian Green]

And Lucy caught trouble all kind of time.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

You see, one time it done left the place unlocked and Lucy done crawled up, used her paw and opened up the door and I. And then closed the door behind her. And then we came in one morning, Lucy stuck and I opened the door and there's Lucy at two hours. We tried to get Lucy out of there. Finally, I had to go get a chicken. A live Chicken down the road, crack its neck and get Lucy out with the chicken. So now we got a different door doorknob because Lucy knew how to open the other one. Oh, my God. Where the fuck are we?

[Brian Green]

The next episode of the commercial break starts now.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, boy.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Chris and Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chris.

[Jake]

Best to you, Brian.

[Brian Green]

Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for joining us, Jake. Paul is going to be our neighbor reading here in Georgia. Yeah, yeah. I mean, not technically. Our neighbor is going to be way down south Georgia, Lake Seminole, you know where Lake Seminole. Seminole, like Seminole fluids. Lake Seminole. He just bought 5,600 acres for $42 million overlooking Lake Seminole, which is in the far southern west corner, southwest corner of Georgia.

[Jake]

Oh.

[Brian Green]

Now I happen to know Lake Seminole because I visited there for a couple of real estate related deals that of course I did not follow through.

[Jake]

Actually went south.

[Brian Green]

I actually, it went south. It never even went anywhere. And so now Jake has bought all this land. That probably was the land I was looking at. Probably, yes. So again, I have failed to make any money off anything. 5,600 acres. That's one big spread.

[Jake]

That is a huge spread.

[Brian Green]

But that's where you find that kind of land way down in southwest Georgia.

[Jake]

That's true. Close to Florida.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, right there. Right there. Nixel for you're probably 35, 45 minute drive away if you. I mean, as the crow flies, and the crow doesn't fly here in anywhere in south Georgia because there's no roads going anywhere. But as a crow flies 30, 45 minutes right to the armpit of the Gulf of Mexico.

[Jake]

Have you watched any of his show? Doesn't. Don't they have a show on masks?

[Brian Green]

They have a show where. On Max where they've tried to normalize their behavior. Yes, they have. Listen, there's part of me that really dislikes the Paul brothers kind of what they stand for in the world. But there was part of me that disliked Jerry Springer too. And there was part of me that disliked Judge Judy and part of me that disliked Dr. Phil and part of me. But then once you kind of pull back the obnoxiousness a little bit, you find out that they're just human. And in some ways they have done like. I don't. I'm not saying they've done a bunch of good for the earth. That's not what I'm saying, like, I don't think they're Jesus Christ Superstar or anything like that, but they are human beings who have made their own way in the world and they have. They found a talent that people attach themselves to and really struck a chord at the right time. They were at the right place at the right time.

[Jake]

A lot of money.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I said this the other day on the show when I was on some kind of rant that, you know, fortune favors the bold. It doesn't. Luck favors the bold, but they were bold at. At the right time, in the right place and they rode that YouTube wave all the way to billionaires essentially. And so you can't fault them for that. No, you can't. And while I think they've made some really dumb moves in their career, I think that they've harmed some people along the way. I don't think you get that rich unless you harm people along the way. That's how you know, Brian and Chrissy are not millionaires or billionaires. Cuz we have harmed nobody because nobody is paying attention. It's hard to harm anybody when there's nobody around.

[Jake]

Just the snake that got on your house.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, just that snake that got in my house. But that would have been there regardless if the commercial break was around. And the bird that I killed by slamming the door too hard.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

But that's okay.

[Jake]

Well, you didn't know there were eggs in there.

[Brian Green]

I had no idea. Now they're in the pool house and the house finches are in the pool house.

[Jake]

They nested in there.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Me and my daughters were watching them fly all around and grab food. And the papa bird was protecting the nest and she dive bombed Blue or the male one did because I think it's the male that actually protects the nest and sits on the eggs and all that dive bomb blew Blue. I let Blue out the back and Blue went. Go walking over there and she dive bomb Blue. And Blue was like. It's kind of funny actually. But listen, the Paul brothers are who they are and they've done what they've done and they've made a killing doing that. If I had to pick one, I would say Jake is probably the one that I like a little bit better than the other one. What's his name?

[Jake]

The one that just did the fight with.

[Brian Green]

The one that just did the fight with Mike Tyson. Because at Aaron.

[Jake]

Jake and Aaron.

[Brian Green]

Jake and Aaron. Because at least it seems like Jake is like a little bit self aware.

[Jake]

Well, he did that ayahuasca, so yeah.

[Brian Green]

You do ayahuasca and he did it a lot. And I mean, I think it's different to do ayahuasca when you don't have to worry about what's in your bank account. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that there's so much stress and strife and emotional drama in life that comes from struggling financially and watching every, watching other people succeed financially, that just causes a lot of this drama internally in our egos. And so when you go down in ayahuasca, all that stuff melts away. But the, the fakeness of it, the falseness of it, the appearance of it, it's all there. You can see causing a lot of drama in your ego. But it must be different to have a billion dollars in your bank account. Never go to sleep worrying about how you're going to pay a bill if you have to work hard the next day, if your children are going to eat, survive, succeed, whatever. It must feel different to do ayahuasca. You know, he. A vision came to him that he was going to fight Mike Tyson. A vision came to me that my car wouldn't get repoed. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is just two different things. It's just two different things. But anyway, Jake just bought 5,600 acres down in South Georgia. And so welcome to Georgia. Welcome to Georgia, Jake.

[Jake]

Yeah, welcome to Georgia.

[Brian Green]

Invite us down anytime. We'd love to come down there and hang out at Lake Seminole. I mean, Lake Seminole is like a. More like a swampy lake because it's so far south. Definitely gators living in that lake. Definitely gators living in that lake. This is not like one of those north Georgia mountain lakes.

[Jake]

Those are so pretty.

[Brian Green]

They're. They're beautiful because they're all man made and they're really well taken care of by Georgia Power, the Tennessee Valley Authority, depending on where you are, which lake it is, or Duke Energy is another one that has a couple up here. But you know those lakes down in Florida that are not man made, they're just swampy swamps. That's what they are. Those are the kind you get yourself in trouble because there's pythons and anacondas and gators and those pythons and anacondas aren't native to that part of the country. People just bought them as pets and then dumped them there when they got too big. Bunch of shitheads. Don't get a snake or a dog or a cat or anything that you can't take care of. Please, please. Because then, then Jake Paul is going.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

To have to deal with it.

[Jake]

Right.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

If you don't care about Mother Earth.

[Brian Green]

Or the actual creature, think about Jake Paul and how terrible it must be to have billions of dollars in your bank account and have to deal with pythons.

[Jake]

Well, yeah. And where, like. Because the Okefenokee Swamp is down. Oakfinoke is down. What, In South Georgia, but on the east.

[Brian Green]

South Georgia. Right in the center, actually. Right there in the center. Right on 75. Boom. When you go down there. Well, yeah, a little more east. You're right. Little more east. Little more going toward the east. But that Oakfin Oak Swamp is pretty big. It's got a lot of stuff. It's big. It's a big one. Not as big as the one down near Miami, which is the. Exactly. Brian. What is that? What is that big one?

[Jake]

I don't know.

[Brian Green]

Now I'm gonna sound like a dumbass. I'm so sorry, everybody. I'm so sorry. I'm so stupid, everybody. Let me apologize in advance, but it's.

[Jake]

Bigger than the Okefenokee.

[Brian Green]

Way bigger than the Okefenokee. It's like the biggest national park there is. Let me see here. Hold on. And I'll get it right. I've driven through it a million times, and now just for some reason, I can't remember what it is. It is the. It's big cypress. But what is the swamp called? The Big Cypress National Preserve. Is the.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

What is the.

[Brian Green]

Oh, fuck. I don't know. Okay. All right. Once again, Ryan can't remember what it's called. The Everglades National Force. The Everglades.

[Jake]

Oh, the Everglades.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, the Everglades and the National. And big cypress, they kind of butt up against each other. That is huge. And that is where some people say is the most, like, the survival people say is the most dangerous place in the world to try and survive is down in that.

[Jake]

I've heard that. I've seen, like, little nature documentaries about.

[Brian Green]

It, because no shit, Florida panthers. And those panthers are huge. And they will eat people and they will attack people. And then you've got the gators, and then you got the snakes, and then you got every kind of, like, you know, fish in the world that can kill you. Like the snaggletooth.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Snaggletooth.

[Jake]

The snaggletooth catfish.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, the snaggletooth catfish. You got all kind of shit down there that could kill you. You don't want any part of that. We went. I think maybe I told this story. We went to Naples back before the podcast wasn't Making any money? We went to Naples. Maybe this is before the actual podcast started. Or was it 2022?

[Jake]

Didn't you honeymoon there?

[Brian Green]

We honeymooned in Naples. We've been to Naples a number of times.

[Jake]

Yeah, me too. I like it down there.

[Brian Green]

Oh, no. Yeah, I think this was 2019. We go down to Naples and we rent a house for a week and we go with my in laws. And I think Gustavo was there with us too. So it's Gustavo, Gustavo, who's. Who's coming, who's coming back. Love you. Come on. Come on, Gustavo. Come on down. Maybe he'll do another episode with us. Yes, Gustavo and La, my in laws. We rent this place a block and a half from the beach. Beautiful place with a pool out back. Lovely. My kid is. My first kid is about a year old. And we decide. Astrid and I decide, let's go do something cool like a gator run. Let's go take one of those airboats and go on a gator run. And we had, on our honeymoon, we had driven past one, but we thought this would be a really cool thing to do with the in laws and everybody. And then can we take the kid? Can we take a one year old? We call them. They say, yes, of course, we'll figure it out. And I'm thinking to myself, kid on an airboat, one year old, I don't know.

[Jake]

In the Everglades.

[Brian Green]

In the Everglades. I don't know. But okay, let's go. And if we don't think it's safe, we just. One of us won't go. We drove 45 minutes. There was nothing. A dead straight road, middle of the Everglades, dead straight road. Nothing but mangroves and swamp. That's it. And this goes all the way over to Miami from Naples? Yeah, it's one road. It's like a big Seminole highway, I think.

[Jake]

Something like that. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And we get to the middle, basically, and there are a couple of these along the way, but we get to the middle and there is this. Whatever, you know, Bob's Gator Shack or whatever it is.

[Jake]

Bob's Gator and written on the sign.

[Brian Green]

Exactly.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Yes. Best gator seeing in all of the gator country. I don't know, something like that. And you're like, okay, so we go, we park. The ride is at 10am they told us to get there a few minutes early. We were there like a half hour, 40 minutes early. We just got there early. We get out of the car and just imagine we're in this dusty parking lot. There's a little shack, like a house.

[Jake]

I can imagine it, okay.

[Brian Green]

And then they have this like, deck that's built out onto, into the. A little clearing in the swamp. So like a little lake or a pond. And then that deck goes back to where the boats are. And then the shack is like the place where you check in and you buy merch or whatever.

[Jake]

Get your bait.

[Brian Green]

Exactly. Get your bait. Your bait is you.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

The bait is you.

[Brian Green]

So we are there early. There's a couple other stragglers are like standing out in the parking lot. And I decide to go walk up on this deck where the house is. And then I'm just gonna go take my boy on in his stroller over, up and down this little boardwalk and see what there is to see. And I go walking down that boardwalk and what do I see? A 15 foot fucking alligator, I'm sure on the boardwalk. Oh, on the deck with its mouth wide open.

[Jake]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Green]

Ready to take my son into its clutchy hands and take it down for a swim. And this wouldn't be the first time a child in Florida has been eaten by an alligator. Happened at fucking Disney World, which is a terrible thing. I mean, terrible, crazy thing to happen. But they've always had gators there and they always knew they had gators there. And it just was a wrong place, wrong time. Terrible, terrible thing. This gator was so fucking big. I've never seen anything so big and so intimidating in my life. And here I am 20ft from it. So I back up, right?

[Jake]

Turn around.

[Brian Green]

It doesn't move. Yeah, it doesn't move. And they're not particularly fast on. On land you can probably outrun one if you. Unless it's coming out of the water, right? Unless it's like jumping out of the water. Unless it can use its tail to propel itself, it's probably not going to be faster than you. But still, you don't want to try. Like you're not looking to get in a run, you know, this isn't a race. You don't want to do the Boston Marathon with a bunch of gators chasing you, chasing you. So I back up and I get out and then I'm like, holy shit. And then here's Ranger Bob or whatever his name is, you know, coming in with the keys and he's like, hey.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Hey, yo, how you doing?

[Brian Green]

Oh, that's Lucy.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Get away, Lucy.

[Brian Green]

He grabs a stick, I swear to God, he grabs a stick that's sitting next to the door and he goes and he whap, whapat. Whapat? And that gator's like. And, like, slithers away.

[Jake]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Green]

And he's. Get away, Lucy.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

No chain, no chicken for you, Lucy.

[Jake]

Kids.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Scaring the kids, scaring me. I'm rethinking my life.

[Brian Green]

I'm like, what are we doing here?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Let's get the fuck out.

[Brian Green]

I didn't realize we'd be here.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Here.

[Brian Green]

I thought we'd have to go out there. And then they'd like some kind of safety rail that keeps us. And Bob, the ranger, wouldn't have a stick to keep the gators away. We'd just be away from them. We'd see them, but we wouldn't be near them.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

You know, it's like.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's like those African safaris that always look safe until you see the video of the elephant overturning the car and eating the people or whatever. It doesn't work like that. The wild animals. And I'm like, holy shit. So he opens it, and then, you know, Betty Lou's there and Jimmy John and, I don't know, a bunch of people with two names. And they're all. And I mean, they are country. They live in the fucking swamp. They're like something out of water. Boy, that movie. Yes, but that's Louisiana swamp. This is Florida swamp. But you get the point. Same thing. And.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

And they're like, oh, yeah, that's Lucy, Lucy's troublemaker. Of the group, she probably the biggest she'd been around here, I guess. When do we raise her?

[Brian Green]

And I'm like, raise her?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah, we got a crocodile farm, you know, alligator farm. We done raised them from the babies. And then we make them into meat and clothing and stuff like that. We sell them all.

[Brian Green]

And we're like, oh. And then Bob's like, yeah, see, that's Lucy. And Lucy called Trouble all kind of time.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

You see, one time it done left the place unlocked. And Lucy done crawled up, used her paw and opened up the door, and I. And then closed the door behind her. And then we came in one morning, Lucy stuck, and I opened the door, and there's Lucy at two hours. We tried to get Lucy out of there. Finally, I had to go get a chicken, a live chicken down the road, crack its neck and get Lucy out with the chicken. So now we got a different door doorknob, because Lucy knew how to open the other one. Oh, my God. Where the. Are we? Ask Astrid.

[Brian Green]

This is all true. And we're all like, oh, my God.

[Jake]

Whoa.

[Brian Green]

And then, you know, Billy Bob Thornton.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Or whatever his name is, this guy.

[Brian Green]

Son is gonna take us on this boat ride. And you know, so we all put life jackets on or whatever it is, and in this shack in the back. And I'm just. All I can do is turn around and turn around because I'm just thinking they are on a first name basis with the alligator.

[Jake]

With the alligator. Yep.

[Brian Green]

I am not on a first name basis with the alligator. And neither is my one year old who probably looks much like that chicken dick to a gator with bad to a dinosaur with bad eyesight and huge teeth. So we get on that damn airboat. I'm really nervous about my kid on this airboat because there are no guard and they want us sitting right up front. And you know that guy's slinging that airboat around at 100 miles per hour. Those things go fast through the mangroves. And those mangroves are inches from your head. Yeah, but he's driving it blind. He knows exactly where he's going. In and out and in and out and in and out of these mangroves. You know, it looks like you're in a tunnel. That's what it looks like in those mangroves. It looks like you're in tunnel until you get to a little clearing. And then we get to the clearing and he's like, sh, sh, sh, sh.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Wendy, Wendy.

[Brian Green]

And I'm like, what the fuck is.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He asking for a cheeseburger? Who's he calling? What's going on here? Oh, Andy. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Brian Green]

And I'm like, oh my God, what's going on here?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

We're gonna get eaten by a crocodile. Keep moving.

[Brian Green]

He' the boat off now. And I'm like, go, go, go, go. If we're moving, they can't get us.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

But if we're there, it's going to like crawl up and we're on the bottom row.

[Brian Green]

It's like four rows tall.

[Jake]

Oh, really?

[Brian Green]

And then he's sitting on the very top. Yeah, it's 1, 2, 3, 4. And he's sitting on the very top with a stick, driving this thing like a fucking Nintendo from outer space, I don't know, at 100 miles per hour. And he now he's getting on the front of the boat and he's like, now. About 10 years ago, Florida Department Natural Resources decided to try and clamp down on our family business. Told us we could not feed the gators no more. But if you, if you allow me a point of privilege. And I'm like, wow, that was pretty fancy for You, I think, or maybe you're educated. I just don't know.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

If you allow me a moment of.

[Brian Green]

Privilege, I done got some marshmallows in.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

My pocket, and, oops, I accidentally threw one out there. And he reaches in his pocket and a marshmallow goes flying out.

[Brian Green]

And all of a sudden, right there.

[Jake]

Wendy.

[Brian Green]

Wendy. That's Wendy Way. Wendy.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

What you doing, girl?

[Brian Green]

And she's like. And here he's got that stick. Wabap, wabap. He's just, like, wabapping her.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I'm like, oh, my God. What in the good fantasy fuck is going on here?

[Brian Green]

And so the ride continued.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That's the way it went.

[Brian Green]

We'd drive for five minutes in this crazy way where my son was flinging all.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

There's no seat belts either. It's like we're all sliding across these things.

[Brian Green]

I'm trying to keep. And he's. My kid is a lovely human, but since the day that he was born, he's not the kind of kid who likes to sit still. He wants to jump all around. He has no interest in the alligators. He has interest in and the boat and what's happening in the boat and what's happening and who, you know, Telephone. Like, who's got a cell phone you can watch. I mean, for God's sakes. And this went on for, like, an hour. And when we got back, it was like, more stories about the gators they raised. They have a whole. It's like they have a little family of gators.

[Jake]

Oh, yeah. Probably been there for years and years, generationally.

[Brian Green]

And then we got to actually go and look at the gator farm where they raise them. You know, they. They hatch them. They raise them. And we got to touch a couple of gators and like. Like baby gators.

[Jake]

The baby.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, we got to hold a couple of baby gators. Mouths taped, shots. I mean, because even the baby gators that bite your finger off. Yeah. They have, like. Even as babies, they got really, really strong jaws, and they'll snap. You know, they can really get razor teeth. They do. Yeah. And one guy, I think, was holding a little bit. You know, you could feel his teeth. It was like. Quite frankly, it was cruel. But at that moment, you're just fascinated by everything. And then there's another guy who gets in the pit with all the alligators and throws raw meat at him, you know, like, I've been training gators my entire. He's only got one arm.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I've been training gators my entire life. This is Susie Lu. Susie Lou has my arm. We're waiting for her to shit it out so I can reattach it. You're like, oh, okay, great. Tips are welcome.

[Brian Green]

Sure they are. I'm sure they are.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Well, here's a tip. Don't feed Susie Lu.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Here'S a tip. Get Wendy out of your front yard. There's a tip.

[Brian Green]

It's not a friendly. It's not a friendly welcoming that gator. I've never seen anything like that in my entire life. I have. On the golf course.

[Jake]

I was gonna say the golf course. I've seen videos.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I've got. I've got. On one of my little brother's bachelor parties. We went golfing.

[Jake]

Well, first part was Temptation island, right?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, Temptation Resort, then Temptation Resort, then we went golfing. That's right. And when we went. When we went golfing, we were down in Amelia island and we were like on one of the courses, like one of the public courses where it says clearly, be careful. Gators, snakes, all kind of animals, you know, killer bees, everything that can kill you is down here. And no shit. We got whatever it was the fourth or the fifth green and there. Or the fourth or the fifth tee and there was a gator probably about 20ft off the tee box. It was. It was not a 15 foot gator, but it was a seven or eight foot gator.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And he was sunning himself or she was sunning herself or whatever it was. And we all just decided to go ahead and tee off and get over real quick. And she didn't move, not an inch. But we have, all of us have pictures. Somebody else took a picture of us with the gator right behind. Not right behind us, but, you know, 20ft is not far away when you're staring down the eyes of a killer dinosaur. It was. It was a lot. Speaking of killer dinosaurs, in the one day since we talked about Billy McFarland and Fyre Fest. Speaking of killer dinosaurs, back to Billy and Chris Hansen and all the other scam artists who are pumping money into this pump and dump scheme. He legs licenses IP out to become a streaming music service. Well, it gets curiouser and curiouser as just an hour after we recorded that episode last Friday, Billy put out a big announcement and I'd like to read it to you and tell you what's going on. Now, he is just. He's good at generating press, I'll give him that. Good at generating interest with Brian, at least. That's for sure. All right, let's take a break and when we get back the commercial break, which is now the fire break, because we talk about this so much.

[Jake]

Well, it is fascinating.

[Brian Green]

It is fascinating and it gets more fascinating by the minute. We'll talk about it when we get back.

[Rachel]

Let me do something Brian has never done.

[Brian Green]

Be brief.

[Rachel]

Follow us on Instagram at the commercial break. Text or call us 212-4333, tcb. That's 212-433-3822. Visit our website tcbpodcast.com for all the audio, video and your free sticker. Then watch all the [e-mail] the commercial break and finally share the shout out. It's the best gift you could give a few aging podcasters. See, Brian, that really wasn't that difficult, now, was it? You're welcome.

[Brian Green]

All right, I won't go through all the twists and turns about Fyre Fest 2. If you've been listening to the commercial break, then you've been paying attention to what's been going on with Fyre Fest 2. It's not happening. It's been indefinitely postponed. A couple of days after Fyre Fest inevitably fell apart, which was last. Well, on last Friday's episode is actually last week. On last Friday's episode, we learned that Billy had sold or licensed the ip. What IP this guy owns, I don't know. I guess the Fyre Fest logo and name. I don't know what that could possibly be worth. I mean, even it's got a lot of pr.

[Jake]

Defunct name.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's a defunct name. It's like, I don't know, buying Enron. I mean, what could it possibly be worth, right? But somebody, a guy named Roush somebody. Roush Craig Roush, somebody like that. And Chris Hansen, formerly of Dateline NBC's To Catch a Predator, who's now doing some like, cheap knockoff version of that online. They have an app of true crime app where they run terrible old true crime shows and Chris Hansen's new bullshit To Catch a Predator bullshit. Anyway, whatever. You get it for 399amonth. You can be bored. So they licensed his IP so that they could add music and streaming on demand music services to that app. Why? I don't. So they could pump and dump that, too. Probably likely so that they could inflate the numbers, get someone else to buy them. And then it all falls apart after this. After somebody dumps an inevitable stupid amount of money into it. I can take a few guesses as to who that might be. There's lots of dum dums right now with a lot of Money, So. But anyway, not but an hour after we got done talking about this. Chrissy, Another development in this story takes a left hand turn at Albuquerque and let me explain.

[Jake]

It doesn't stop Albuquerque.

[Brian Green]

It's just an expression.

[Jake]

Oh.

[Brian Green]

A one that I made up. Byline Fyre Fest. Billy McFarland for immediate press release as opposed to wait a couple hours to talk about it. I mean, I guess they have those kind too. When my team and I launched Fyre Festival 2, it was about two things. Finishing what I started and making things right. Both of which you accomplished. Yeah, making money. That's right. Number three, making money. Number four, getting me laid. Over the past two years, we've poured everything bringing Fire back with honesty, transparency, relentless effort and creativity. It sure is creative to rent out a shitty beach club in Mexico so.

[Jake]

You can call it a festival.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Deadmau5 played 100 people. We've taken the long road to rebuilding Trust. We rebuilt momentum. And we proved one thing. Without a doubt. Fire is the most powerful attention engine in the world. Fuck you, shithead. Since 2017, fire has dominated headlines, documentaries and conversations as one of the world's most talked about music festivals. For all the wrong reasons.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

You are so blind, Billy. But I know that this is just the game you're playing. You're trolling everybody. And I get it. I understand. I'm in on the joke here. We knew that Fire was big, but we didn't realize just how massive the wave would become. You didn't?

[Jake]

You mean after two documentaries were made.

[Brian Green]

About the disaster that was Fire Fest? That Fyre Fest to the inevitable failure? Wouldn't be paid attention to by everybody to watch you fall directly on your ass. That's exactly why we're all watching. Don't get it twisted, Billy. None of us are hoping that you have a comeback here. Not the way you did it anyway. You could have done it a different way. Maybe some people would have rooted for you. That wave has brought us here to a point where we know it's time to call for assistance.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Maybe you should have done that before.

[Brian Green]

You announced the festival, you cock knocker. The brand is bigger than any one person. And bigger than what I'm able to lead on my own. You don't say.

[Jake]

Especially from probation.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I'm calling it a sentence. My name is Billy McFarlane. It's a movement and it deserves a team with scale, experience and the infrastructure to realize itself potential.

[Brian Green]

See how many buzzwords you can fit in a sentence? We've decided the best way to accomplish our Goals is to sell the Fyre Festival brand, including its trademarks, IP digital assets, media reach and cultural capital Assets.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Cultural capital.

[Brian Green]

I have never heard so much bullshit ever to operate to an operator that can fully realize its vision. What's who. Its vision, like Fire, has its own thinking. It's its own human, it's its own entity living and breathing dipshit. There is a clear path for operators and entrepreneurs with strong domain expertise to build fire into a global force in entertainment, media, fashion, CPG and more.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Cpg. You're getting into consumer packaged goods now.

[Brian Green]

You are. What are we gonna do? Fyre Festival. The cookie, for example. In the two years since we relaunched Fyre Festival, Hollywood and entertainment executives have already licensed the brand because they wanted.

[Jake]

To be able to see the downfall of it again.

[Brian Green]

That's right, dude. They desperately wanted to be in on the action. And the documentary is coming. I know it is. There's a reason why Billy hasn't been posting on Instagram like he probably would have otherwise. It's because he has already licensed this content, this I, this, this moment in time to probably at least one, if not two different film companies who are making a movie about this. And trust me, it will be here soon enough because the ending is already here. It's already ended. Some people thought we'd at least get through May, but no, you're an idiot. So it didn't. Hollywood and entertainment executives have already licensed the brand to develop properties specifically in theater, music streaming and ad free ad supported tv. Free ad supported tv. Think about that one. Do the math on that one, guys. Okay? Here's how it works. All of these companies who have these free TV apps, Pluto.

[Jake]

FreeVee.

[Brian Green]

Freevee. We can think of a million more. Let's just take Pluto, for example, which I like. I like Pluto, by the way, because Pluto has, you know, the hills running 24 hours a day. They take old brands, they license them, and they stick ads in them to make their money back. But there's another way that they do this, and I told you this was going to happen, and it's happening. It's just a cable network. That's all it is. But they have a different way of making money. Cable networks charge money to the television channels like abc. They charge them a carrier fee, and then they take a cut of the revenue that they make on ads. That's how it works. And in.

[Jake]

And in some cases, charge you for the service.

[Brian Green]

They charge you for the service. They make money two ways. Right now, Pluto makes money by making you watch the advertisements. So it's free to you, you can download it, it's free, you can on demand content. All this, they. They put in advertisements. That's how they make money. But there's another type of channel. There's the type that of content that they license or they produce themselves. Even though Pluto doesn't do a lot of original programming, it does some, but you can find some of the most terrible movies, home movies, basically, movies made at people's houses, basically on demand on Pluto. Well, why, why would you be able to just like take your home movie and put it up there? Because if you can sell advertising and Pluto can get a cut of it, they're happy to put your content on their platform. Even if only two people watching. If they're getting a cut of the revenue from that, they're okay doing that. And that's why in some cases, people who do like video game streaming, they have their own channels on Pluto now where they're streaming live, because they're selling advertisements into that live channel. And Pluto or whoever is doing this. I don't think, I don't know if Pluto is doing this yet, but I know, I think Freevy or some of them are doing it. It's called OTT or fast Ad supported television. But the thing is, is that the person creating the content, like let's say the commercial break, has to sell the advertisement in order to get carriage on Pluto. So Billy makes it sound like he's on, like some big TV network has come to him and put him on, you know, A and E or Bravo or some shit. No, he's got some shitty channel on Pluto on Chris Hansen's application where he's selling boner pill ads. That's what's going on. In addition, following the challenges we faced in Mexico, we were approached by several, quote, unquote challenges. Challenges meaning you lied. You didn't tell anyone you were coming. Several Caribbean destinations are eager to host Fyre Fest 2. Oh, I bet they are. There's 172 different nations in the Caribbean. I'm sure one of them is willing to host. We dove into the process, meeting with national officials and conducting site visits. You didn't, but somebody else did. And we're confident we found the ideal location for the festival. Why didn't you do that like two years ago? Yeah, while I'm incredibly excited, I can't risk a repeat of what happened in Playa del Carmen. Where's support?

[Jake]

You're going for three, Pete.

[Brian Green]

That's right. You're going for the Three feet. Who are you? Michael Jordan of bad festival planning?

[Jake]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

I can't risk a repeat of what happened. Where support quickly turned into public distancing once media attention intensified. You didn't do the right thing, Billy. They didn't distance themselves for any other reason. Except for you didn't follow the proper protocols to get this done. It's clear that I need to step back and allow a new team to move forward independently, bringing the vision to life on this incredible island. Which incredible island? You're not gonna tell us that. Cause you never do. I've stood by my team, our partners, and my fans since day one of Fyre Festival 2 and Shackles.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

With an ankle monster, giving control of the brand to a new group is the most responsible way to follow through on what we set out to do. Build a global entertainment brand, host a safe and legendary event, and continue to pay restitution to those that are owed from the first festival. Well, okay, Give you credit for at least mentioning.

[Jake]

Yeah, you do owe money to all of those people.

[Brian Green]

Like, by the first time. Yeah. By some estimates, $47 million. No one's buying Fyre Fest for $47 million. That's not happening. To the supporters, believers and builders who stuck with my team. Thank you. We'll pick. We will pick the new group based on their ability to execute. Will pick? You mean they'll pick?

[Jake]

Yeah. Wait a minute. Well, also too, thanks for everybody who's standing by me. Now we're picking a whole new group of people.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, now we're picking a whole nother group.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Thanks for standing by me, but the.

[Brian Green]

Next group is ready to come in and pay me more money, so fuck you. We'll pick the new group. He's acting as if a bunch of people are gonna jump in, lining up. Yeah. You know who's gonna jump in on this? Grant Cardo.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I guarantee.

[Brian Green]

I guarantee that's what's going to happen. One of these wonky real estate seminar weekend warrior dudes is going to come in and try and do this. We'll pick the new group based on their ability to execute the vision of fire in a transparent, grand and expeditious manner. The next chapter of fire will be bigger, better, and built to last. Without me at the helm.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Well, that's the best sentence in this entire firefighter.

[Jake]

Exactly. Without me at the helm.

[Brian Green]

So then he goes on to add a bunch of. Of things about what you'll get. Fyre Festival has been the most talked about, US based music festival in the world. Since 2017 because of BAD. For all the bad reasons. An ideal Caribbean location. You act as if like you bought the land and it's ready for these people to just set up and go. The Caribbean location will be there. They don't have to use the Fire Fest name. No one wants to be associated with Fyre Fest 3, I guarantee you.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Deal.

[Brian Green]

Disclosure. The Fire brand is currently licensed to third parties specifically for developing TV projects, theater music, music streaming and free ad supported tele. Theater Fest, the musical.

[Jake]

I was thinking the same thing. Like you're gonna go to the Fox.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I've got a little cheesy bread I can't eat. Where's my mood? Where's my camp? I can't find it. Where's Blink182? They don't come to you. Mamma mia. Mamma mia. Fire fest never happened.

[Brian Green]

109. I got a. But that guy who almost got a blowjob for water, they got to put him in the music.

[Jake]

Oh, that's right.

[Brian Green]

I love him. I wish he would. He should buy it. If he was the one running this, I would have. I might have even thought about buying tickets. 40 422,000 unique visitors to Fyre Fest in the Fyre Festival Fire MX in the last 60 days.

[Jake]

Yes, because everybody was trying to get there and see. Is it happening? Is it happening? Is it happening?

[Brian Green]

Nope, it's not, you dumb shit. Oh, and here. Make us an offer. What's your name? What company do you rest us in? What's your offer?

[Jake]

We might pick you.

[Brian Green]

Should we? Should we?

[Jake]

That's a good.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Brian and Chrissy, what's your.

[Brian Green]

What company do you represent?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

The commercial break TCB live.

[Brian Green]

Wait, what was it?

[Jake]

TCB plus, minus, TCB minus.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

TCB minus.

[Brian Green]

What is your offer?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

$1 trillion.

[Brian Green]

I'm gonna put. Let me put.

[Jake]

Do you take Diner's Club here?

[Brian Green]

Let's do this. Okay. What's your name? Wendy the Alligator. What company do you represent? Need to know. Only on a need to know basis. Need to. No basis. And then I'm going to put in quotations. It's a secret. For now it's a secret. What's your offer? $1 trillion billion dollars. And then I'm going to put it says what do you want to use a complete brand or license for a specific use case Cookies say I don't understand the question.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I don't understand.

[Brian Green]

And then put also, I will only pay if I can borrow the money. What is your email address? Wouldn't you like to know?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Wouldn't you like to know.

[Brian Green]

Let me see here. I'm doing this for real, by the way. Wouldn't you like to know? What's Your phone number? 555-555-5555. One extra five in there? Oh, I'll put a six in there just for a good. Okay, submit. Done. All right, let's see what happens if they get back to us, guys. I will let you know. And we will be on top of this every step of the way. Because if there's one thing that we want here at the commercial break, it's Billy. To get Fyre Fest sold immediately so.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He can realize the vision of a global entertainment brand with CPG Consumer packaged goods.

[Jake]

And the musical.

[Brian Green]

And the musical. We're doing good in this world. We'll own Fyre Fest by the end.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Of the day, I promise. Wendy Yip. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Brian Green]

All right. We'll be back.

[Rachel]

Okay. You're probably wondering why I, Rachel, have taken over the voice duties at T. Tcb. It's pretty simple. Astrid asked me to shut Brian up, even for a minute. Well, lovely Astrid, your wish is my command. Do you want to help Astrid, too? You know you do. Leave a message for her or me or Chrissy at 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. You can be on the show, too. Just call and say something, anything. Or text us, and we'll text you right back. Promise. Then head over to tcbpodcast.com and get your free sticker. It's your constitutional right to a sticker, and we must abide. You get the point? Follow us on Instagram at the commercial break and watch all the episodes on [e-mail] the commercial break. Best to you and Astrid. Especially Astrid.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I mean, you do got to give the guys credit. He's got some gumption. He at least keeps going. You know what I'm saying?

[Jake]

That. What's that game that you can play at different arcades where the. Whack a mole.

[Brian Green]

Whack a mole? Yeah. That's what it's called.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That's right. It's.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Listen, I don't argue anybody's ability to get a second chance in life. I think that that's the greatest thing about life is that you get a lot of. If you're lucky, you get a lot of second chances. You know, we all fuck up a lot. I fucked up a lot in my life. A lot. A lot. I've made some mistakes. I've done people wrong. Song, the whole nine yards. And I'm not always proud of what I've done. And I regret. I don't regret anything because I always tend to learn a lesson from it. It may take me seven times, but I'll learn a lesson eventually. So I wouldn't call it regret, but I definitely sometimes am embarrassed about my past actions. And luckily, people have given me a second chance. But the thing is that despite all indications that this is clearly. You're clearly out of your league. You're not doing the right thing. You have no intention of following through with honesty and transparency. As has been said, it just makes you seem like a really big dum dum who just doesn't get it. Like you're not getting it. Billy. But I do agree with two things. Number one, you should. If you're going to. If the Fyre Fest brand is going to live on in any way, you should be no part of it.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

It.

[Brian Green]

Number one. And number two is you should try your best to make some restitution to the people.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

Who did find themselves in a shitty and compromising situation. Yeah. So.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

So anyway, Bad festival. Good festival. Memphis bad festival. A bad festival. Bad festival. Good festival. Mempho. I did want to have a chance to talk about this. We do talk about this every year comes around. Menpho has announced their lineup for 2025. And I know I'm throwing this on you. October 1st of October. The first of October. The. Like the first weekend or the.

[Jake]

The first weekend, which is like the second. Let's see.

[Brian Green]

I think I had it open right here.

[Jake]

Just got a lot going on, so I always have to.

[Brian Green]

Okay. Memphis Mempho Fest. Here we go. October 3rd, 4th and 5th.

[Jake]

There you go.

[Brian Green]

Okay, so big announcement. Drum roll, please. The third headlining the third Friday, October 3rd, will be widespread Panic.

[Jake]

Yes, it will.

[Brian Green]

With Father John, Misty, Leftover, Salmon Galactic, Kevin Kinney and Bloodkin all doing a stretch before Widespread Panic does their big close out for the night. And then on Saturday, October 4th. Drum roll, please. Widespread Panic plays two nights in a row with the Flaming Lips, Lucas Nelson, Mavis Staples, the Farah side.

[Jake]

The Far side.

[Brian Green]

The Far side. Excuse me. Puddles Pity Party, which is crazy. If you've never seen Puddles Pity Party, that might be worth the price of admission alone. It's a clown that sings and dances and does a lot of different stuff. Comedian, satirist. Puddles is crazy. And if you've never seen it again, it might be worth the price of admission alone. And high fade all opening. These are Just the people who are announced. I'm sure there'll be more to come down the road, I imagine. And then On Sunday the 5th, Tyler Childress with Sierra Farrell, Charlie Crockett Lucero, John Miller, Annie and the Caldwells, Amy Levere and Gio Welch Trio. So there you go. Widespread Panic, two nights Child. Tyler Childers on night number three, Widespread Panic for two nights. That's sure to get the crowd going. Oh, yeah, for sure. If you're a spread head. This is it.

[Jake]

And drink beer.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, spread doesn't. They don't do chewers too much anymore, do they? They do more like festivals. Yeah, targeted.

[Jake]

They actually don't do festivals really anymore. So this is. Is that's special that they do this festival. But yeah, they do targeted weekends throughout the year.

[Brian Green]

Okay. So the. In a cruise and I think. Oh, not a cruise, I'm sorry, whatever they call it, Dominican Republic, they go. Don't they do that whole beach thing somewhere down in Mexico or Dominican Republic or something like that? Yeah. And of course then they do the big New year. They do New Year's Eve.

[Jake]

They do. Yeah, they do a big New Year's Eve.

[Brian Green]

They used to do it here at the Fox.

[Jake]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Green]

And then they did it. Oh, they do it. The Fox.

[Jake]

They didn't do it this past year because one of the members was sick, but.

[Brian Green]

All right, so Wise Bird Panic. I know so many people that are into Widespread Panic. Not my favorite band in the world, but I have no hate for them. I have no hate. It's just not my favorite band in the world. But I have seen them more times than a lot of the bands that I really, really like. That's just. If you live in Georgia and you grew up in the 90s, 2000s, you've seen widespread people. They're from Georgia, from Athens, and they are a legendary jam band who's been around for a very long time. Huge, very loyal crew of human beings that either follow them around or go see them when they can.

[Jake]

Yeah. Good people.

[Brian Green]

And if you're up for a night, if you're up for two nights of fantastic jam banding. And then Tyler Childers, who I don't. Oh, yeah, I don't think I've heard much of him. What kind of music does he.

[Jake]

It's got a little bit more of a country flair on that.

[Brian Green]

Okay, all right, so there you go. Well, that ties in nicely then. Because, you know, Widespread gets a little twangy on. On occasion too. They're jam bandy, but they can get a little Twangy on occasion.

[Jake]

They can, yeah.

[Brian Green]

So Widespread panic the third and the fourth. Tyler Childers on the fifth. Men fo Fest.com to get your tickets now available. If you're going to be there, shout out. Chrissy will say hello to you. Maybe Brian will even show up. I'm sure some of my brothers are going to be there. I'm sure at least one of my brothers is going to be there. He's a spread head. He's a spread head of epic proportions. He loves widespread.

[Jake]

I mean, back in my college days, I would go on tour, I would go as much as I could, you know, going to school and that kind of thing. But yeah, you go out for the specially go out for the summers.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Jake]

Out for a week, two, maybe even kind of travel to just different cities.

[Brian Green]

Yes. I went and saw Widespread Panic back in. Well, I just had first met Astrid, so this had been 2015. In 2015, I went and saw Widespread Panic here in Atlanta. My brother, my twin brother has had a friend forever and ever. Amen. Her name is Nicole. Nicole and Chrissy, I don't know that they know each other, but I've certainly never met through this circle of people. And I go to Nicole's house for a pre spread party.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Which is the finger dip night.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Finger dip, finger dip, finger dip, finger dip.

[Brian Green]

Someone's running around with a tin of Pure Molly saying, finger dip, finger dip, finger dip. Everyone is so fucked up. I mean, and just getting twisted, as you might be inclined to do before a Widespread Panic show. Not keeping my head on my shoulders. I had a few Bud Lights and whatnot. But I'm in her kitchen and she's got a wall of photographs, 92% of which are not her family or her children. It is her at Widespread Panic concerts, her and her husband at Widespread Panic concert. And I'm staring at all these photographs and looking at them and thinking, oh, that's fun. And they look at that and that's interesting. And who are those people? And in one of those photographs, my eyes are scanning and it's like a crowd of people behind Nicole, like taking a picture together as one group. You can see. And I look and then I do a double take and then a triple take. And then I stare really closely and.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I go, that's Chrissy Hoadley. It's Chrissy fucking Hoadley.

[Brian Green]

And Chrissy was on this wall and I couldn't believe it, so I had to grab Nicole and I said, do you know that girl?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah, I can't remember. Her name. But I see her a bunch at the concerts and we know each other and we.

[Brian Green]

She's part of the group and blah.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, that's my best friend. That's Chrissy. No way.

[Brian Green]

Everybody knows everybody. A Widespread Panic. You don't need to know anything about Widespread Panic to be welcome into the Widespread family.

[Jake]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

If you can do a giggle or a wiggle, and if you can do a little jiggle, if you can do the White Man's Shuffle, then you can show up at a Widespread Panic concert and have fun, too. So, Mempho, it's a good time pulling big names out of the hat to bring Widespread Panic for not one, but two nights. Is this harken back to one of the old memphos? Wasn't there Widespread Panic play at the first Mempho?

[Jake]

Well, no, it was the first one that came back after the pandemic.

[Brian Green]

Okay, okay.

[Jake]

So 2021.

[Brian Green]

And they played two nights then, too, didn't they?

[Jake]

I believe they did.

[Brian Green]

I think they did. I want to feel. I feel like they did, but I. Because I was there. I was the one. Oh, no, they didn't play two nights. They played one night.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Saturday night they played.

[Jake]

They played two sets.

[Brian Green]

They played two sets? Yeah, like two. Yeah. We were all.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I don't remember. I was so up.

[Brian Green]

I don't remember. I don't remember any of it.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

But, yeah, that's good. I'm proud of Jeff.

[Brian Green]

He's pulled another rabbit out of his hat there. And I'm sure they're expecting good crowds and very much excitement. They've already sold a lot of tickets, I'm sure. Right. Once you say Widespread Panic, I'm sure the phone starts ringing off the hook. And does Jeff take those orders himself?

[Jake]

They also do a blind sale. They've been doing that for the past.

[Brian Green]

That's really nice, because blind people need to see music, too.

[Jake]

Right, right, exactly. Their hearing is more advanced, actually.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, probably is.

[Jake]

No, they do it where, you know, you don't know who's playing.

[Brian Green]

You do a discount.

[Jake]

You do a discount and you say. And sell tickets. And they sell a lot that way, too, because they've come to expect Memphis a great festival.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Well, that's good. Yeah. And there's a lot of festivals that are. Been around for a while that do do it that way. Not like Billy McFarlane selling blind tickets two days before the festival is supposed to happen. And still no names have been announced. Well, good.

[Jake]

This is the eighth year.

[Brian Green]

Does Jeff take those ticket orders himself?

[Jake]

No.

[Brian Green]

He answers the phone. No. Okay. I thought maybe you could call and talk to Jeff. It's the eighth year. That's amazing. Wow. He's been doing this just a little bit longer than we've been doing this stupid show. I will still never forget when Jeff. When it kind of like all came together, green light go funded, ready, like they were. They had the money and they were like, okay, we're gonna go do this now. And we went out to eat. Maybe that same day, I don't know, maybe the same day he got that information. And we went out to eat with one of the guys. That was early in on the whole situation, but we went out to eat. I'll never forget. Jeff and I were outside, and I was like, yeah, I can help.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I'll help.

[Brian Green]

I'll do some stuff. And he was like, yeah, yeah, well, I definitely get you tickets. I was like, okay.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

All right.

[Brian Green]

He goes, well, with your investment track record, I probably want to keep you on the. The, like, in your pocket. On the crowd side of things.

[Jake]

He's keeping you in his pocket.

[Brian Green]

Keeping me his pocket.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He's going to pull me out.

[Brian Green]

Right? Right. As the. When he needs a festival to blow up, he'll go, let's bring that commercial break guy in. And just.

[Jake]

Brought to you by Jam Land Productions.

[Brian Green]

Brought to you by Jam Land Productions. One year brought part. Brought to you in part by the commercial break, which I still have hours of audio from that Mempho festival. But there's two problems with the audio. Number one is we didn't think so smart on our feet. That was our first year as a podcast. We didn't think so smart on our feed. We never got releases from those people. Not that that would be that big of a deal. If you're talking into a microphone, expect it's going to go somewhere. Right. I'm not too worried about that part. But the other part that didn't work out so well is that we were directly in front of one of the stages and it was so loud that all you can hear is that. But. But some of two listeners that we met at that show still listen to this day. And Todd, still contact us to this day. Still say hello to this day. Two people that we met, we gave away hundreds of stickers.

[Jake]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

Most of them ended up on the floor of Mempho. I'm sure when cleanup time came, it was like all commercial break bumper stickers.

[Jake]

Then there were those little ones with the guitar and stuff.

[Brian Green]

I remember Us the guitar pick. I still have a few. Mempho guitar pick stick. Interested in that? Let me know and maybe Astrid can send you one. I don't have a ton, but I still have those. Those are off. Those are the first official commercial vintage stickers. Those are vintage five years old now. And they have a little mempho. They have a little mempho thing on there. And it says the commercial break. That was. That was fun. We had a good time. You know, I'd do it differently next time in the sense that I wouldn't actually go as a podcaster. I would just go to Memphis.

[Jake]

Yeah, it's hard at a festival. Yeah, it's not to get like live crowd stuff. You'd have to like go in the back or do something in the back and interview people or something because, yeah, the music's constantly going.

[Brian Green]

That's what I had kind of hoped would happen that first year. But it didn't really work out like that.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

It didn't really work out in our favor.

[Brian Green]

Maybe now we would have a little bit more luck getting someone on the horn, but, you know, widespread panic. I don't think they're interested in talking to the commercial bank. Maybe schools would.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Maybe schools would. He's kind of.

[Jake]

He's the one who does a lot of the interviews.

[Brian Green]

I did see that the brothers played five, four or five sold out nights in Madison Square Garden.

[Jake]

The old Allman Brothers reincarnation.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, the thing like anybody who was kind of in that universe, I saw Chuck. Your friend Chuck Lavelle was there.

[Jake]

So was Warren Haynes.

[Brian Green]

Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks. I mean, Derek Trucks. Yeah, Derek Trucks was there. And a couple of the old, the old drummer from Allman Brothers. There was like 16 people on stage. I mean, it was like a huge.

[Jake]

Yeah, it was a big deal. Everybody's been talking about how great it was.

[Brian Green]

What really surprised me was not only the amount of people that showed up. I mean, it sold out.

[Jake]

Oh, sold out every night.

[Brian Green]

Sold out every night. But then how many people streamed it? Like half a million people over the course of. Of five nights streamed it. And that may not sound like a lot, but think about half a million people. That's a lot of human beings. But then the amazing light show and I listened to a couple of the songs and really the, the. The music was fantastic.

[Jake]

Yeah, it really was.

[Brian Green]

I've seen the Allman Brothers a lot because again, you're here in Georgia, you grew up in a certain time. The Allman Brothers would come and play the fox for like 10 nights. In a row. Right. And you would go and. And. And I saw the Allman Brothers many times and some. And it was a hit or miss kind of band. Sometimes you would hit, get it on a really good night. There was always professional, it always sounded okay. But sometimes they really flew and sometimes it's kind of an average night. But those. Whatever I saw online over the weekend was so fantastic, so good, so rocking. It was just great to see them all.

[Jake]

I love to see that.

[Brian Green]

Where is Butch Trucks?

[Jake]

Where is Butch Trucks? Yeah, is he the one that.

[Brian Green]

He's the guitarist, but I don't think he died. Did he die?

[Jake]

Yeah, somebody just died. Sorry. Gotta feel bad. I don't know.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, me too. Oh, Butch Trucks did die. Oh, not Bets. Dicky Bets. Yeah. I'm not thinking Dicky Betts and his died. That's right.

[Jake]

Was playing with them.

[Brian Green]

Okay. Okay. That's what it is, is Dicky Bets was, in my opinion. I mean, I've liked all the guitarists, including Dwayne Allman, but Dicky Bets took it to another level. That guy was so good. Warren Haynes is incredible too, but Dicky Betts, the way that he played guitar, just like a little old country boy, just playing that guitar like nothing.

[Jake]

And, yeah, their story, their origin story is really amazing and tragic.

[Brian Green]

Tragic. The Allman Brothers story is one you gotta look up if you've never heard it. The Allman Brothers are one of the great rock and roll bands of all time.

[Jake]

And, yeah, his book. Well, not Duane, because he died back in the 60s, but yeah, Greg had an autobiography and I've actually read it twice. It was so fascinating to me. It's called My Cross to Bear.

[Brian Green]

Interesting.

[Jake]

Highly recommend that.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he was good. He's married to Cher for a while.

[Jake]

He was.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I told that story about him up at the bar one night. We just told that story, like a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, he was fantastic. All those guys, really good. So if you get a chance. I think a lot of that is online. A lot of those songs are online. And then I think you can go to nugs.net and buy the entire run if you want to. I think they have like a special on the run. They're not sponsoring the show or anything like that. No, I'm just saying, if you're into that. Yeah, we got on. We got a widespread panic. And I thought about the Allman Brothers and the Brothers Band, because it's in that kind, you know. Jam Lee in production was really tuned into a lot of that stuff back in the day. A Lot of those people I have met in person, I've been in the same room with, and they will never remember me or do business with me again. So I thought I'd just mention it.

[Jake]

Well, if they never. If they don't remember you, they might.

[Brian Green]

Do business with you again. So I think they're. I think they have no need for me. No need for me. That's what I'm finding out in life. Sometimes these. You think, well, clearly they'll want a buddy up. And then they're like, they don't have any need for me. It's like a lot of our guests. Why would they come on the commercial break? Why would that. On your way up or on your way down? One of the two. There you go. Speaking of guests, six, maybe seven, possibly eight celebrity guests. Listen, we. We put it out there, and all of a sudden, now people want to be a part of it. And I couldn't be more happy and excited about that. And so if we have a couple extra hours of tcb, it's good. And we'll tell you about the minutia. Don't worry, we'll be okay. We're not actually gonna. We won't actually be here two extra hours. I'll explain when the time comes. The 12 hours of TCB. At least 12 episodes on that Saturday, May 31st, celebrating five years of the commercial break, six seasons, and mental health awareness bonus month, which is May. Yeah, we're super excited about it. And so just mark your calendars, tune on in. We're also going to be doing live video on that day through YouTube and Twitch, so that'll be exciting.

[Jake]

We need to test that out.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Yes. I was actually playing with it the other day. I figured out how to do this, but I'm calling in a professional. Don't worry. I've got a. There's a guy. There's a guy. I know.

[Jake]

I know a guy.

[Brian Green]

I got a guy. Yeah, I know a guy. Like, I knew a bunch of guys in the real estate business. Probably going to make us fall in.

[Jake]

Grant Cardone.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's right. I'm calling him Grant Cardone. 10x10 Exit so that's May 31st. Also, America's next top mediocre comedy podcaster. If you want to be a part of that contest that will be running here at the commercial. Commercial break. An offshoot of a joke that now I think is a good idea if you want to have your own mediocre comedy podcast. If you've always aspired to that, let us know Tell us your idea briefly why you want to do it. Give us your name and information. 212-4333 TCB 212433 3822@ the commercial break on Instagram TCB podcast on tick tock and YouTube.com they commercial break.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Right.

[Brian Green]

For all the episodes on video the same day they air here on the audio. Oh yeah. TCB podcast.com okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for now.

[Jake]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

I'll tell you that I love you.

[Jake]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I will say we do say, and we must say goodbye.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Sam. Sa.