Shady Okra!

Summary

The Commercial Break – “Shady Okra!” Episode Date: February 9, 2024
Hosts: Bryan Green and Krissy Hoadley

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Episode Overview

In this episode of The Commercial Break, Bryan and Krissy take listeners on their signature improv-comedy ride, blending stream-of-consciousness riffing with irreverent pop culture commentary. Largely unfiltered and chaotically funny, they cycle through topics ranging from the tediousness of Instagram “inspiration” posts, to the nostalgia and awkwardness of childhood Grammy dreams, a roast of the 2024 Grammy Awards (“the Grannies”), and a philosophical wrestling match with the cultural resurrection of Creed. As always, the show delves into random, personal stories—this time including fake rock star moments, air guitar glory, and retirement home music gigs—showcasing the duo’s talent for finding humor in everything from everyday mundanity to pop culture weirdness.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Banter and Show Origins

• Pickle Talk & “Shady Okra” (00:00–01:06)

  • The episode opens with playful jokes about pickles and okra, riffing on colors and shapes, setting the improvisational tone.
  • “The Shady Okra Retirement Center” becomes an ongoing gag about where Bryan sees himself in the future.

• Making Content & Podcast Longevity (01:41–04:50)

  • The hosts reflect on the endless search for material and imaginative storytelling.
  • Bryan recounts his father’s question about coming up with podcast stories:

    "Well, first of all, I mostly make it up, so that's good." —Bryan (01:50)

  • Discussion of their note-taking habits and the comparison to Howard Stern’s career longevity and relevance.

• Retirement & Motivation (04:23–05:20)

  • Bryan jokes about retiring only after breaking even in 2036, yearning for a “Smartless-style” podcast payday.
  • Shares his grandfather’s mantra:

    "When you stop working, you start dying." —Bryan (03:30)

  • Krissy chimes in about the need to power through.

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2. Instagram Influencers Satire

• Making Fun of Influencers (05:28–08:36)
  • The hosts lampoon beauty and motivational Instagram personalities.
  • Bryan is particularly irked by banal posts:

    "They make no sense whatsoever. They're like, literally take a picture of a half eaten bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich, GM jam. What the fuck does that mean?" —Bryan (06:16)

  • They riff on people chronicling even their bathroom breaks, with Krissy deadpanning:

    "Feels so much better now. Here's a selfie." —Krissy (07:30)

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3. Word of the Day & Vocabulary Banter

• “Blarney” Segment (08:36–10:19)
  • Krissy offers the word “blarney.” They riff on Irish origins and agree the podcast is full of “amusing and harmless nonsense” (blarney).
  • Bryan jokes:

    "The commercial break is most definitely blarney. We should call it the commercial blarney." —Bryan (09:58)

  • Extended wordplay on “bon homie” and “quotidian” follows.

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4. Grammy Awards & Music Memories

• Grammys: Then and Now (12:10–14:24, 31:09–43:14)

  • The duo recalls excitement for the Grammys as kids versus their current indifference.
  • Bryan confesses he used to fantasize about winning a Grammy as a teen in his bedroom:

    "I would pretend that I was winning a Grammy and I was up there." —Bryan (12:24)

• Fake Rock Stardom & Air Guitar Glory (12:35–20:09)

  • Bryan tells stories of mock performances, band failures (“33p”), and a classic teenage air guitar anecdote, culminating in this moment of validation:

    "Wow, it looks like you're actually fingering the solo correctly." —Random Girl at a Party to Bryan (18:28)

• Band Nostalgia & Self-Deprecation (19:24–28:39)

  • More self-mockery about failed band days, cringey song lyrics, and playing to uninterested retirement home crowds.
  • Krissy reminisces about their previous segment reviewing Bryan’s old band tapes.
  • Discussion of the infamous Woodstock ‘99 disaster and its greedy organizers.

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5. Grammy Awards 2024 Roast

• Recapping the Show (31:09–45:26)

  • The segment encompasses praise and jabs at the Grammy production, from Heather McMahon’s red carpet coverage to the abundance of live music and production mishaps.

  • Notable moments:

    • Stevie Wonder’s awkward Tony Bennett tribute:

      "This is by far the most terrible singing I have ever heard from Stevie Wonder." —Bryan (34:01)

    • Annie Lennox’s “Nothing Compares 2 U” performance is lauded.
    • Production errors during the In Memoriam, Jay-Z's complaints about Beyoncé, and weird inclusions like Travis Scott despite controversy.
    • Miley Cyrus’s 70s look and wardrobe choices, with Krissy commenting:

      "She said she forgot her underwear." —Krissy (40:19)

    • Tracy Chapman’s return with Luke Combs is a highlight.

  • General consensus: Grammys feel less youthful, more laden with mistakes, and less relevant with the glut of modern entertainment options.

  • Bryan volunteers to host next year’s “disaster”:

    "If you want technical snafus, bad jokes, and old artists playing music, I got you covered." —Bryan (44:30)

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6. Creed’s Surprising Comeback

• From Mockery to Mea Culpa (46:28–59:56)
  • Bryan expresses disbelief at Creed’s resurgence among Gen-Z via remixes and a Paramount+ commercial.
  • He candidly confesses:

    "Even if Scott Stapp came on this show...I would still have to tell him directly to his face...I am not the world's biggest Creed fan." —Bryan (49:45)

  • Krissy is more diplomatic.
  • Bryan recounts the band’s fall (internal strife, scuffles with the law, failed attempts at reinvention), and their current cruise/festival “comeback” and Gen-Z approval.
  • Finally, Bryan offers a tongue-in-cheek apology:

    "I'm sorry, Scott. I'm sorry, Scott. I'm sorry I ever doubted the power of Creed. Doubtless you have risen again. After three days or 30 years in the tomb, the boulder has moved." —Bryan (57:39)

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7. Closing Thoughts and Playful Reflection

• Self-Awareness and Affection (59:10–61:39)
  • The hosts poke fun at their own bitterness, manufactured or real, about music success.
  • Krissy reassures Bryan:

    "I'll always cheer for you." —Krissy (60:24)

  • Closing info on how listeners can engage with the show, free sticker offers, and social media plugs.

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Notable Quotes by Timestamp

• Podcast Material & Imagination:
  • "I mostly make it up, so that's good." —Bryan (01:50)
• On Instagram Inspiration Posts:
  • "Do I really need to hear good morning while looking at your half eaten breakfast? It makes me sick to my stomach." —Bryan (06:16)
  • "Feels so much better now. Here’s a selfie." —Krissy (07:30)
• Banter on “Blarney”:
  • "The commercial break is most definitely blarney. We should call it the commercial blarney." —Bryan (09:58)
• Grammy Aspirations:
  • "I would pretend that I was winning a Grammy and I was up there." —Bryan (12:24)
• On Woodstock ‘99:
  • “That is the craziest documentary…Even MTV had to leave. Even they thought it was too much.” —Krissy (21:25)
• Grammy 2024 Live Recap:
  • “This is by far the most terrible singing I have ever heard from Stevie Wonder.” —Bryan (34:01)
  • "She said she forgot her underwear." —Krissy (40:19)
• On Creed’s Comeback:
  • "I'm sorry, Scott. I'm sorry, Scott. I'm sorry I ever doubted the power of Creed." —Bryan (57:39)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Pickles, Okra, and Podcast Meta Talk: 00:00–05:20
• Instagram Influencer Roast: 05:28–08:36
• Word of the Day - Blarney: 08:36–10:19
• Grammy Show & Music Memories: 12:10–20:09, 31:09–43:14
• Grammys 2024 Review: 31:09–45:26
• Creed Segment (Resurgence & Apology): 46:28–59:56
• Closing Reflection and Wrap: 59:10–end

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Tone and Style

Relentlessly off-the-cuff and self-deprecating, the episode pings between earnest and absurd. The co-hosts’ chemistry shines through their playful bickering, crude but clever rants, and affectionate support—making listeners feel like they’re in on a private, sometimes nonsensical, but always hilarious, conversation.

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Transcript

[Brian Green]

We don't care.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

All shapes and sizes.

[Brian Green]

Honestly, I like the bigger pickles. Well, big, little darker, lighter, it don't matter. There are darker pickles than lighter pickles. Okay, go look it up.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Gherkins are darker than a dill.

[Brian Green]

She's been around a lot of pickles. I'm actually talking about pickles, y'. All. A gherkin is darker in color than.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

A deal, and it's a big deal.

[Brian Green]

You're a dill. No.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No.

[Brian Green]

A deal. No. You. On this episode of the commercial break, 33Pmay make a special appearance just because you know you want it. Just write into them and tell them. Anybody who happened to be at the Shady Ochres, Shady Acres, Ochres Okers Okras. The Shady Okras Retirement Center. Shady Okras.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Shady Okras.

[Brian Green]

The Shady Okra Retirement Center. That's where I'm going. Shady Okra. That's some shady ochre you got on your plate right there. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Yeah, boy. Oh, yeah, cat. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green, and this is the master of the universe, Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chrissy, and best of you out there in the podcast universe. Well, what is there to say, really? I think we should wrap the show. That was a good episode of the commercial break.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Thanks for joining us.

[Brian Green]

Thanks for joining. Nothing left to say. So many episodes. Just go back and listen to them. That's all you got to know. I'm out of stories. I'm kidding. I'm definitely not out of the stories. I know I look at the world in a. In a very fanciful way. My perspective. My dad asked me this weekend. I was over at my dad's, and he's like, how do you come up with so much content? And I said, well, first of all, I mostly make it up, so that's good. As long as I have an active imagination, I figure we'll have episodes forever. But then he said, do you look at the world when you go around on your. On the daily basis? Do you look at the world in a way where you're, like, putting together a story for the show? And I said, no, not necessarily. I don't go through the world like that. But quickly after a day happens, like, I'll review, right? What happened exactly was that, is this chewable material? Can I make something. Something out of it? And then I make it up? So there you go.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I do think of things throughout the day. You know, I'm like, oh, we should talk about that.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, well, I'm gonna. I'm in a terrible. I mean, not a terrible. I'm in a really kind of, like, auto mode of writing everything down. I see a news story, I write it down. I have a funny thing happen. I write it down. I have a not funny thing happen that I think I can make funny. I write it down. And so I'm always constantly taking notes because it is. It is a lot to fill. And then I think about people like Howard Stern who are doing four or five hours a day, three days a week. We're just doing four hours, four, maybe five hours of content a week. And Stern is doing, like, 15 hours of content a week now. He has a cast of characters, and I think he can dig into it. Plus, he's been doing it for, what, 80 years or some like that. I mean, the guy is getting old. I wonder, when we stop, do we. Like, I think he's 75 years old, 72, 73, something like that. So what is he going to. Will he stop anytime soon? Or is he still culturally relevant? Or do you die when you stop? Do you know what I'm saying?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Like, I had my. I had a grandfather, and he was an FBI agent before FBI agents could carry guns. So he was an FBI agent way, way, way, way, way back in the day. They were just an investigative bureau. So they. They didn't. They weren't like armed services. Right. They. They didn't carry guns for whatever reasons is what he told me. So into his 90s, the guy would tell the nurses to send off his resume at his senior care home, where he was in a bed because he had broken both his hips and had colon cancer. He would literally give his resume to the nurses and ask them to send it. Fax it to a certain phone number to see if he could get a job, like a consulting job as a security assistant or something. And he told me once. He said, when you stop working, you start dying. That's what he said to me. And I think it was true for him. I think when he lost that purpose, he was like. He just kind of started to go downhill.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, for a lot of people.

[Brian Green]

But I am under no illusion that I want to do this into my. Into my 90s or even 75. I'm thinking another good year and a half is what we're obligated to do, and then we just sail off into the sunset to do that. I don't know, to do the next thing, hopefully retire. But at the current rate, I think we're going to break even in 2036. So we might have to do it a little bit longer than I have to.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Keep going for a little bit.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I was hoping it'd be like a five year run. We'd make 6, 700 million dollars, and then we just sail off into the.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Sunset, get our plane.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, we'd be like those smart list guys, you know, we get our $100 million payday, we'd fulfill the obligation, and then we'd sail off into the sunset. But having done the math, I'm. I'm now convinced that sailing off into the sunset happens well after the world ends, actually, which might be soon. So, you know, hey, I don't know, maybe the things are looking up. Do you think people will listen?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Motivation.

[Brian Green]

Yes. Be your own motor. Be your own motivation. Here's my labia.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I got that.

[Brian Green]

I'm coming to you live from the carnival shithouse of the seas. Ready to inspire people with purpose and focus? Are you? We're talking about some Instagram folks. You know, we like to. Even though we're clearly trying to do the exact same thing in a different way. We like to make fun of the influencers, especially the beauty queens who are out there showing their ass in their tits and they put some inspirational quote behind it, right? You have to float before you fly. Do you have to float before you fly? Is that how birds do it? They just spread their wings and hope that things turn out or what's going on there, and then they have, you know, they're showing their nipples or the other kind of. Which is just people who think they're way too. And they think they're way too important.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

They have to update everybody about everything that they're doing.

[Brian Green]

Yes, that's right. The inspirational quotes coming from the influencers. Not only do they not inspire, I'm not sure they influence at all unless they're influencing my nether regions. We've got one guy that I just. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I hate watching. That's it. And another chick that I just. I hate watch. And I don't hate watch because I hate them. I hate watch because I hate their Instagram posts. They make no sense whatsoever. They're like, literally take a picture of a half eaten bacon, egg and cheese sandwich, GM jam. What the fuck does that mean? Do you. Are you assured that I'm watching? That I'm looking at this in the morning, first of all? Second of all, do I really need to hear good morning while looking at your half eaten breakfast? It makes me Sick to my stomach. You know, here at the airport so early. No one's here. Picture of thousands of people in the airport. And by the way, this particular person takes more bathroom selfies than I've ever seen anybody take. It's like she purposefully goes to the bathroom to take a selfie wherever she's going. And I'm wondering, like, do I really want to know that you just shit and now you have a brand new haircut? Is. Is that what you're going for? You're going for the. I just had diarrhea from my bacon, egg and cheese sandwich at this airport.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Feels so much better now. Here's a selfie.

[Brian Green]

Just use half a roll of toilet paper here at lax. Gm Jam. Gm. GM to you, twad. Sort of. God, I swear to God, the earth is. The human psyche is just coming apart at the seams. And we're all watching it and we're all participating in it in our own little way. And I'm not saying. I'm not claiming that we are not, because we certainly are. If there is anything less important in the world than the commercial break, I'm not aware of it. Maybe the Taylor Swift conspiracy theory with Travis Kelce and they're getting Joe Biden elected. Maybe that's dumber than the commercial break. But that in and of itself is a high debate. I don't know. I don't know. But what I do know is I don't care if you just took a shit. I'm not sure your highlights in your hair excite anybody. And GMGM to nobody. Nobody fucking cares. Gmgm. The morning is the worst time. Say G N. G N. Like good night. Good night. I could take that a little bit more. Anyway, let's move on with the commercial break. Word of the day.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Word of the day. Time.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I'm liking this. I feel like I'm expanding my vocabulary just a little bit.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That's right. And I will write it down in the notebook, too, because I've been keeping track of the notebook. Did you see my new pen, by the way?

[Brian Green]

Oh, I did. Disco ball. There you go.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I really like it.

[Brian Green]

Oh, it spins.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It spins.

[Brian Green]

Oh, it's like a little. What do they call those? The fiddlesticks or the fiddlers or I don't know what they call them.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, something like that.

[Brian Green]

Fidgets. Fidget fidget. Spinner. Fidget spinner. Fiddlesticks. That's what they. They used to. They had a toy called a fiddlestick. Yeah.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's not this.

[Brian Green]

No, it's not. I Bought it. I bought a fiddlestick with that pocket. I got. It came with a free fiddlestick. I've used both of them. All right, go.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, I thought I'd stop, start off with a little something. We'll ease us back in here today.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Please do. Blarney.

[Brian Green]

Oh, blarney means. Blarney means.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Does it.

[Brian Green]

Well, the blarney stone, I think. Kiss the blarney stone. Doesn't that mean the stone or something? You're full of bloody. I don't know. I've heard it a couple times.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I mean, I guess it could mean. But it means to talk that aims to charm pleasantly, flatter or persuade.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's. That's what it means.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It means amusing and harmless nonsense.

[Brian Green]

The commercial break is most definitely blarney. We should call it the commercial blarney.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

We should. Here's an example. In a sentence. She certainly was a charmer as she relied on blarney to persuade her co workers to share details about their lives.

[Brian Green]

I just love that word blarney.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's fun.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Is that. That's an Irish word, right?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I mean, it sounds like it's gotta be. Yes, it's gotta.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Origin Irish. From the. From the 18th century.

[Brian Green]

From the 18th century. Well, that's almost as old as I am. That's almost. That's how long the Howard Stern Show's been on.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Right.

[Brian Green]

I turned it on this morning. I don't listen to it very much anymore. I used to listen to it a lot, but I don't listen to it much anymore just because I don't have time now. I'm doing my own fucking weird song and dance here. Yeah. And so I turned it on this morning, and I just. How do you have that much energy? I mean, honestly, how do you have that much energy to do.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's a lot.

[Brian Green]

It's a lot money.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

The money is a big motorcycle.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. When you're getting $100 million a year, I guess that kind of prods you along. He can't stop. Like, I think his contract comes up at the end of 2025. And I'm just so curious to know whether or not Stern renews. And here's why I'm curious to know. I think the over 70 crowd that's currently listening to him may come over in our direction should he decide to retire. Yeah, I'm gonna get the stir in a sloppy seconds. Well, blarney. There you go. The commercial. Blarney. Now, a very Bon Homie podcast, and if you're interested, it is quotidian. Also as it comes on every day. And it's completely terrible. Yes, it's terrible. All right, let's get to some headlines. The Grammys were a few days ago, and so I thought I would touch on the Grammys, which I'm now referring to as the Grannies, because you are. I just used to be so excited about the Grammys. The Grammys is like the one night year I had to watch network television. I mean, back in the day, you had to watch network television because that's all there was. But I mean, you know, when cable came, it was the. Like the MTV Music Awards were the absolute best, coolest music related, edgy. Yeah. Live television show that you could watch. But then the Grammys were a close second. It was like the respectable. Like if someone won a Grammy, they were like, wow, a Grammy. And I guess it's still like that.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

There are now.

[Brian Green]

It is so many artists that want to win one. One. And I never will. So I guess that maybe that's why it's lost some luster with me. I thought for sure.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Finally. You finally accepted it.

[Brian Green]

Chrissy, you don't know how many times.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I'm not gonna get to the Grammys.

[Brian Green]

No. You know how many times. And I was like 13, 14, even 15 years old in my bedroom by myself, and my parents weren't home that I would pretend that I was winning a Grammy and I was up there.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Really?

[Brian Green]

Yes, absolutely. I know I had it like I had this whole map drawn out in my. In my bedroom, in my mind. Not actually okay, but my. The bedroom.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Stand up on your bed.

[Brian Green]

I would stand up on my bed. Those were the speakers, those were the towers. So I'd have the guitar and, you know, I jump off it. You'll find it. So I put my. Whatever it was Pearl Jam, Alison Chains, whatever. I liken myself the Eddie Vendor. So I would just oftentimes do the whole whole routine. I'd pick a song and I go through it the whole time and I do the thing. And then I had a little line that was the state, the edge of the stage. And I would. And girls would be.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That didn't help you in your later years when you fell off the stage?

[Brian Green]

No, no, that's probably why I fell off the stage, because I was just like instinct to know that there actually was no stage. And no matter how far I walked, I wasn't falling off.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, that's true.

[Brian Green]

But after 62 tequilas on a 3 1/2 foot tall stage somewhere in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Brian Took a nosedive in the fog of war. Literally the fog of war. The combination of secondhand cigarette smoke that probably came from me and then the fog machine. I just walked right off stage, just, oh, there, look at that guy. Oh, there you go. There you go. And meanwhile, the two people who are in front moved out of the way. They didn't try and catch me. They moved out of the way. They literally took a step to the right. So there I am, bleeding on the floor, microphone squealing with feedback.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I'm shocked that the Grammys were not alerted to this performance.

[Brian Green]

I think the Grammys were alerted to this performance. I think I'm currently blacklisted forever and ever from any Grammy related activities. I'm a liability. I'm really not that good. But I mean, listen. So here we are. Stupid. I'm so stupid. I look back on that and I think, what are you doing with your life? You could have been studying to try and pass high school in any kind of meaningful way. You could have played the saxophone, which you might have been good at, had you given it any actual time or effort. But no, I was up there with my broomstick or whatever, up there pretending I had a guitar in my hand, right? I was actually trying to make my fingers move to the guitar solos too. So not only did I sing along and pretend that there were thousands and thousands of adoring fans, but I had to make it technically accurate by moving my fingers up and down the broomstick in a way I never forget. I was at a party. I'm like 20, maybe like 19, 20 years old. I'm at this party. I think I've told this before, and me and this guy, we figured out how to play one song together. And we thought we were the next best thing in rock and rol. One song went on for 12 and a half minutes. It was three chords. And at one point we would play the chords so fast, but together right in opposing directions, but it was like melodic. And I swear we thought we Chickadee chick to the chicky chicken Take my dick out and you don't stop licking. I mean, I don't know what we were singing, but we get in this room at this party.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It was really good, though.

[Brian Green]

Yes, it was so good. In which everybody is super high on cocaine and we're playing this song and there's like a little crowd. There's like 12, 12, 13 people in a bedroom. We're sitting on a bed, we're playing it and we're doing this number. And we get done and everybody's like, you know, the obligatory. Obligatory golf clap. Yeah. I'm not sure what that was. It went on for 12 minutes. No chord changes. It's pretty good. So I get it. So I get out now I'm feeling all proud of myself. Probably just a little cocaine confidence running through me. Right. I'm like, hey. Yes.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Like the sweat towel.

[Brian Green]

No, I didn't have the sweat towel. But I, you know, I put my head down. I just acted like I was humble, you know, put my head down, I walked around, but in my head, I was flying 300ft high. Right, right. Because someone had actually put their hands together for something we had done, which was a new experience for me.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Right.

[Brian Green]

And so.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

So I get that you got that first rush, that first.

[Brian Green]

I know. That first taste of fame. Teener of fame.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yep.

[Brian Green]

Now I also get noticed mainly by the parents at school. Stay away from me.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, there it is.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah. I heard your podcast. You did?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I did, I did, Yep.

[Brian Green]

All right, well, this is awkward, so I guess I'll just walk away. What do you do for a living? What is it you do for a living? Oh, I'm a neurosurgeon. Oh, yeah. Huh. I hear they're doing great things in that surgery room. Well, I guess this has been awkward enough. I'll walk away now.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Right?

[Brian Green]

I'm gonna go let our kids play together. I'll be the opposite side. Did I tell you about my kid's birthday party coming up soon? I'll get an invitation for you. So I walk out of the room, and then the party's going on and some song comes on. And the song comes on. I know the song and I do. I'm doing a little air guitar in the corner, you know, like. And I'll never, ever forget this. A girl comes up to me who I thought was rather attractive. I remember kind of like eyeing her at the party. Oh, shit. She saw my three chord song for 37 minutes that we just played. She's into me, right? She walks up to grab another beer. I'm standing in the kitchen. She walks up to grab another beer, and she says, wow, it looks like you're actually fingering the solo correctly. And I'll never forget thinking to myself, all those years of fake. Yeah, get air guitar.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Paid off.

[Brian Green]

Paid off. This girl likes me. She likes it. Never spoke another word to me. The entire party. Never saw her again. But that one moment, I was shining in the sun. Four years of pretending that I was on stage in my bedroom have paid off. I'm gonna get laid because of it.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yep.

[Brian Green]

And you know what? You got to start somewhere once happened. We were gonna talk about the Grammys at one point, but then Brian just went off on his own little. He's in his own little world. Hey, welcome. Oh, there's Blue. Hey, Blue. How you doing?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, the Grammys made me think of your career is what it was.

[Brian Green]

My burgeoning music career that never quite took off, as noted by the 600,000 episodes of the commercial break. We reviewed my music one time here on the show.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

We did. We did.

[Brian Green]

We never got one. Sunny side up, Sunny Sat up. We never got one.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That was my jam.

[Brian Green]

Sonny's Not Up. That was your jam?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my son.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I set up.

[Brian Green]

What was the other one? Yeah, She's Lying on the Floor. No, She's Lying on the Lawn. I like this moody song about a girl who was trying to commit suicide.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

On the ground.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Live on the living on the ground when will she be found?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Green]

Beaten by her dad Things are sad, sad, sad.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

In all fairness, that was kind of the. The mood of that time. It was, you know, with a lot of the Alice in Chains and mid to late 90s.

[Brian Green]

Well, actually, it had already passed. Grunge was way over. We were now into, you know, chickadee Chinese with a Chinese chicken Looking at the clock because it don't stop ticking Getting French fries with your shoes on I got no booze how can I love you when you think I might be mad at you? Whatever the song is, I don't know. I hate it. I hate it. To be fair, I think we were more in Limp Bizkit territory. Brian was trying to bring, like, biscuit territory. And Brian was going back to collective soul days. I was pulling from early Matchbox 20. People had moved on. They were on to rap rock or whatever the. That it was.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, it was all the stuff that was at the. The LA or not.

[Brian Green]

99 Woodstock.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

99 Woody stock. 99 Woody stock.

[Brian Green]

Yes. Woody Stock. Oh, good old Woody stock. 99. Mass death and rape. Woody Stock. Woody, come on down to Woody Stock Looking to set fire to the stage.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That is the craziest documentary.

[Brian Green]

Nuttiest documentary. I'm glad. I know. And there's like, the producer of the concert is like, well, I did see a lot of tits. You didn't think. You didn't think to put a little extra security in the middle.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That was crazy.

[Brian Green]

It all went to hell in a hand basket. Yeah. I mean, I think we reviewed this on the show, but that Woody stock 99. Even MTV had to leave. Even they thought it was too much. And who's the other guy? Moby or whatever his name. Remember Moby? And Moby went and played and he was like, we're out of here. We are not doing this. There are too many tits and too many dicks. Like, you know.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And I really like when I watch that. I feel so, so sad for a generation of music fans and lovers who just went to that show to have some fun. And the absolute greed of these, the Woodstock producers, who, by the way, they.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Were sitting backstage too, in like these velvet couches telling everybody everything's okay.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. They had their own set of tits in their faces. And the truth was, is that was like the Woodstock producer. I want to just share this right now. I know we're not. We're supposed to be talking about the Grammys. We'll get to it, obviously in the next segment of the show. But I just want to share this. The Woodstock producers, especially that one guy, Michael Levy, I think is his name. Was the name Michael Levy, I can't remember. Okay. The one guy who the original. They had the mastermind of Woodstock, the original 69. Woodstock was never in it for peace or love. He was never in it for peace or love. He only let the gates fly wide open when he realized what a nightmare he had on his hand. Yeah. Hundreds of thousands of people had shown up because the word had gotten out on Jasper's farm that everybody was going to go there for three days of peace, love and whatever the. And the only reason why he flung the doors wide open is because people were already climbing the fences. There was chaos anyway. He was trying to make the best of a very, very difficult situation. He wanted to make money. He did it again in 1992. 94. 94 Woodstock, I think.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And then he did it again in 99. 94. He got away with it, made kabillions of dollars. And then for some dumbass reason, he decided to rent an Air force base that is all cement so that he could make yet more money off the good, the goodwill of the Woodstock name. And by the way, there are lots of people who went to the original Woodstock that did not look upon it very favorably. They had a really tough time just surviving for four or five days scarce.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And the heat and the sun and.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah. And so when in 99, it's almost a self fulfilling prophecy. You put a bunch of kids with a bunch of booze and drugs on a hot tarmac and then you ask them to Listen to music that sometimes was good natured, but at other times was super aggressive.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. Ragey.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. With little to literally rage against the machine. Right. With little to no security or oversight. Yeah.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Those secure. That was a whole other part of the documentary was the, the security people that were basically like they were kids. Yeah. They were just kids that wanted to go to the show.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. So as soon as they got their T shirts, they just walked into the show and threw the T shirt away, gave it to somebody else. Here you. You go backstage. I don't know, I don't want to do that. Right. And then these poor teenage girls and, and 20 something girls who are just hot as. And they see one girl take their top off and then everyone's doing it because they're feeling pressured by all of these. By the by, the crow takes over real quick. And if you don't think you're. You don't think you can be subject to it, you are mistaken. And so all these girls with their tops off, it's just a recipe for. I'm not saying that, that, I'm not saying it's anybody like the girl's fault that they took their tops off. What I'm saying is, is that booze, drugs, tits, sexual energy, a violently aggressive energy. Like all of a sudden that is terrible desert. And meanwhile Michael, whatever his name is, is sitting in the background telling everybody everything's cool and let's let Limp Bizkit go on next. Let's let Biscuit go on next. And he even told the guy, he said someone told the guy. Some producer told the guy, could you please calm it down? Like we need you to calm it down. Well, Fred Durst, I mean, I know he's trying to make a comeback to her and everything grandpa come back to or whatever Limp Bizkit is, but Fred Dursk went the absolute opposite direction. And you shouldn't probably trust a 20 something rock and roll God to then calm the crowd down because that's exactly the opposite of what he did. And you know what I have to say to that? Fun to watch on tv, terrible documentary. And I don't, I don't know, I just never. I was at Sunnyside Retirement center trying to let people know that it's Sunnyside Up. Like, come on, guys, sunn side up.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You had your own little festival.

[Brian Green]

I did. I had my own little festival at the retirement home. One person stayed in the room after we began playing. There were 21 person stayed. We have to review that music again. I think it's long overdue that Brian breaks out that tape.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, because we were talking about it, and this is the early days of tcb, but we were talking about it for a while. And then your friend that was in the band with you, is that what happened? He contacted you and got you the.

[Brian Green]

The. He came to my birthday party. Yeah, he got me the long lost live tapes of TCB of 33p. Yeah, the archives. And I'm telling you what I thought. I knew it was going to be bad. I had no idea how bad. It was terrible. And I'm not afraid to poke fun at myself. However, I did see recently over the holidays, I saw the other two of the other members of that band that. Like a little reunion. Not like a band reunion, but like a reunion of friends. 33p. Back for one night only, live at Shady Acres Retirement Center. Get ready to have your dick pounded inside out. Brian Green, that other guy, the third guy who doesn't want to be named. I think they were all a little pissed at me, actually, if I'm being honest, because one of them is a very successful musician. Like a very successful studio and touring musician. And I think he would rather that just die where it died that day at the retirement. At the retirement home. Let it die at the retirement home where it belongs, please. But nope. Brian's commercial break needs content ideas, so I guess we all have to suffer. All right, we've gone on way too long. Let's take a break. We'll talk about the Grammys. I promise. I always have to put me first. Oh, my God. All right, we'll be back.

[Podcast Announcer]

Sorry to interrupt, but that's kind of my thing these days. If you're sick of me interrupting, Brian, give us a call at 626 AskTCB 3. Leave us a voicemail and maybe I'll interrupt you on the show instead. You'd love that, wouldn't ya? You can Also text us at 855-TCB8383 and check out our website, tcbpodcast.com for all things TCB. You know what's coming next. Follow us on Instagram at the commercial break and on TikTokCBpodcast. And now let's listen to some sponsors, because they're the real ones around here.

[Brian Green]

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[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I did. I had it on. Just kind of. I forgot that it was even going to be on.

[Brian Green]

Me too.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Then I got reminded of it somehow and I thought, oh, well, I'm at home. I needed to organize and do some stuff. And so I just turned it on in the background.

[Brian Green]

Well, I never. I would have never known it was on had Astrid or not told me or I saw it in one of the trade rags. Because the truth is, while I used to get really excited about the Grammys the last number of years, I found it to be really underwhelming just in general, like the production value and the.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Hosts and I mean, I used some people might still be of the mindset that they really love to watch those.

[Brian Green]

Award shows, but I don't know who those people are.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I really don't. Some people get really excited about them. It's like a tradition to watch it, but I don't know. Keep up with that.

[Brian Green]

Well, I do have to say this. Let's start at the beginning. I saw Heather, our friend Heather McMahon.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, I wanted to see her. That was the thing.

[Brian Green]

I saw her on E. She's doing the red carpet.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

She did for her best to you, girl.

[Brian Green]

You go get it. That girl became super famous. Yeah.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Right after she was on our show.

[Brian Green]

Two minutes after our show. Yes. You couldn't have waited, Heather, like, a couple weeks to come on the show so that we could piggyback off your fame? Come on.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Piggy front.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, piggy front. Off our fame. But no congratulations. And she does a great job. She's very funny. And she did the Golden Globes. I think she did.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

All right. So she did that. And what I noticed was they stuck her kind of behind a railing with E. Entertainment. They stuck her behind a railing.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

She was talking about that on her podcast with the last show, too.

[Brian Green]

But if they. Like, she didn't even have an opportunity to enter. They were all walking by her, and she was just saying things. Like, she was saying things at them. Like, not. So she would, you know, shout a question or a thing or whatever, right? Like, oh, CeeLo Green. You know, and then she would turn around to the iPhone camera on the Instagram reel that I saw, and then she'd be like, that's CeeLo Green, you know? And I thought to myself, do they not let her interview the people? They not like their publicist. Just pull them over?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I don't know. I didn't. I missed that.

[Brian Green]

I don't know. Maybe E doesn't have as much cachet at the Grammys as they do at. At the Golden Globes. Anyway, she was funny. No doubt about it. Congratulations to Heather. But then I watched some of the program. I'll say this. I think some of the live music was good. I really do. I think they did a good job of stuffing a lot of live music in there, which is what the Grammys should be. It shouldn't be this talk fest where everybody, you know, jacks themselves off and congratulations to you, and you're the best that ever lived and all this. I understand doing one or two of those per program, but, like, in the last 10 years, some of that got a little lengthy and a little wordy. Trevor, Noah's Great. He knew how to work a crowd.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

He did a good job.

[Brian Green]

I think Taylor Swift actually smiled at one of his jokes. So I'll say that he was certainly in better favor than the last guy who did the award show. What was his name? You know, Chelsea Handler's old boyfriend.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. Joe Jokoi.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. So I think Trevor Noah did the best with this situation that was given to him. And Trevor's a very likable and funny human being.

[Podcast Announcer]

He is.

[Brian Green]

He keeps it light there. There were so many production gaffes, it seemed like to me, in the live show, that I found it to be hard to watch. Like the in Memorandum part of it. Stevie Wonder, for those of you that watched or didn't watch Stevie Wonder, they put him in a piano in the middle of the crowd with a band. He gives this lengthy speech about Tony Bennett, because Tony Bennett died this year and he's gonna. He's gonna be the big name that we all talk about. Right? Tony Bennett. So Stevie does a rendition of Stevie's song that Tony Bennett liked to do live on stage. And they interspersed Stevie singing, and then Tony was in the background on a video singing. And then Stevie sang a line, and then Tony sang a line, and then Stevie sang a line, and then Tony sang along. I realized that Stevie is blind, and so he doesn't have any visual cues to tell him what is going on. But he's pretty good at music. And I absolutely love Stevie Wonder. Absolutely love him 100%. This is by far the most terrible singing I have ever heard from Stevie Wonder. And really, really bad in general. Like, he was in a different key altogether somewhere there in outer space. I'm not sure where he was. He was kind of stepping on Tony at times. They shut off Stevie's microphone at other times, because I think he was singing, but Tony was supposed to be saying, oh, God. So I realized the minutiae of this must be difficult, right? But then I also noticed that. That he was playing piano, but at times he would, like, raise his hands and like, make these weird gestures to the crowd for five or six seconds at a time when you could hear the piano. But.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

But maybe it was pre recorded.

[Brian Green]

It was a. It was a track. But clearly his voice, like the singing that Stevie did, was not a track and it was just bad. I mean, I. I don't know any other way to say it. Bad. Then 15 seconds into the performance with Stevie, they show a picture of Jimmy Buffett. But the qu. The picture quickly goes away. And then Tony Bennett is back. And I'M like, wait, are we doing a Stevie Buffett tribute here? Or Jimmy Buffett? Are we doing Tony Bennett? Are we doing Stevie Wonder? I'm not really sure.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I remember hearing the Jimmy Buffett. It was that come Monday, come Monday.

[Brian Green]

I'll hate my life. Come Monday, I'll interview Matt Rife because he's not so famous anymore, And he's at tcb, the entertainment floor. So, yes. So then Stevie finishes up, wraps up. Everyone's kind of befuddled. They're all like, oh, okay, thanks, Stevie.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And then on to Jimmy Buffett. Now, clearly, what happened was there was a production snafu. They showed Jimmy early. They pressed the wrong button or whatever. Now they do a little video montage to Jimmy Buffett. And then all of a sudden, Annie Lennox is up there singing Nothing compares to you, which was a beautiful rendition. And nothing Annie Lennox does is bad. To me. She is good. Good, good, good, good. And while her voice isn't like, you know, the voice from the 80s, it's still beautiful, and she did a great job. Nothing compares to you. She kind of mixed, like, the Stevie Wonder. I mean, the Prince Sinead versions together. It was really good. And. But then they're putting all these people.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I like the Fantasia, Tina.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah, okay. That was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So then. So now we're. We've showed more faces, many of which no one is familiar with. Composer, singer, pianist, you know, okay, they're probably academy members, and, you know, they deserve their. Their due. But then out comes John Batiste. And now John Batiste is giving a. A tribute to this African American executive in music known as the Godfather of Black Music. Right? And John Batist. Wonderful, wonderful.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

But then all of a sudden, his brother who died, Ronald Batiste Jr. The percussionist who died earlier in the year, is. They've got, like, a picture of him, and then John is singing this song, and then John goes, yeah, whoa. And I'm like, whoa, Are we, like, happy about that? Is that a good thing? I didn't know. I didn't know what. How to feel about that. I was like, are we happy he died or that was the brother that we didn't like? I'm not sure. Or were they even related? I don't. Maybe they weren't even related. They just shared the last name, the.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Brother we didn't like.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Then we got Jay Z up there.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Bitching and complaining because Beyonce didn't win album of the year. She's won the most Grammys ever.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

She wasn't up for Album of the year.

[Brian Green]

Oh, she wasn't?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No.

[Brian Green]

Oh, well, then there you go. Why are we complaining? Jay Z, I don't understand.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I guess he. I think he was saying in general, but.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Did you. Not alone.

[Brian Green]

We got Lenny Kravitz, who will always be cool in my mind.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

He's just talked about him the other day.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he's the most interesting man in the world.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

He really is.

[Brian Green]

Screw the white guy with the beard, the sunglasses.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I think are.

[Brian Green]

Doesn't.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, he's always got something.

[Brian Green]

It's also smart because he's getting a little older and it hides his lines, you know what I'm saying? So he always looks young and those dreads just always look good on him. But he's got this, like, his nipples are peering through this shirt. He's got this big prince cross on, and he's like the Godfather of Black Music. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, what? What better way to respect the Godfather of Black Music than to show your nipples on tv? I mean, come on, you look good in a suit, but put on a suit. What are we doing? So you get through that whole number and then you got, you know, Miley Cyrus winning her first Grammy all in Dolly Parton. What was she wearing? What was that hair? Did you see the hair? Yeah, yeah, that hair was like a lion's mane.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It was. It was real poofy and I think it was like a 70s type look or something.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, everyone's going for the Mob Wife aesthetic. That's the new thing about that. Yeah, we got. I got an Instagram friend. That's all. You know, knew that.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Reading about that.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Activate Mob Wife. Whatever. I don't know, but okay, I can. I'm down with it. Right, okay. You know, mob wife aesthetic, I get it. But she came out looking like half Tina Turner, half Dolly Parton, half mob wife 150, which is impossible. But anyway. Yeah, yeah, she had her nipples hanging out, too, and they didn't censor.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

She said she. She even said she forgot her underwear.

[Brian Green]

She always forgets her own. I think she's just like one of those naked babies.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

You know, I got a kid that's a naked baby.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

It just wants to walk around naked all the time. Yeah, the naked baby. You know? Know. And listen, I'm here for it. Whatever. It's 2024. Do we really care what people are wearing anymore? And if they're showing their tits? Okay, fine, whatever. Just don't put an inspirational quote down below. So. And then you've got Tracy Chapman. That was really good coming out of what seems like a very long period of not being around.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I don't know, don't see her very much.

[Brian Green]

No, I think I, I, I was watching a fast car performance from like 2016, maybe a couple of months ago. So good. Tracy Chapman is so fucking good. And she did it with Luke Combs. Am I right?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yep.

[Brian Green]

Such a good song. And then who else was up there then? Can, can we just let Travis Scott go? Can we just let him go? He's dating that Kardashian girl. Bunch of kids just died at his concert not too long ago. And now we got him closing out the Grammys like or late in the Grammy show. Why do we care?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, when I saw that I was like, okay, time for me to go back to. Yeah, I'm just kind of holding towels.

[Brian Green]

I'm kind of over as like dark Underlord, you know, jump all over the place kind of thing. Travis has some good music. Some music that I think is, is good. Nice to the ear. Right. But I don't care for Travis personality. Like he's always out there. I don't know, I just felt like it was like, why are we giving this guy props? We waited the obligatory year after the kids died and now we have to put him back on the Grammys. Do we really have to put him back on the Grammys? Do we really? But then again, CeeLo Green was there and he's had his own troubles too, so. But I noticed that CeeLo Green wasn't anywhere to be found on stage. At least not while I was watching Killer Mike Gets Arrested.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I saw that the, I know, I really don't know. More is going to come out probably by the time that this airs.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, well, it was an altercation with a security guard is what I heard.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

Right. There was altercation with the security guard. Some people said it was because he had a warrant for like a non violent something that happened in LA la. But I don't think the police go after somebody at the Grammys like that. I just don't.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

For a non violent benchmark is what was said.

[Brian Green]

Well, somebody probably didn't recognize, you know, like some happened and he, I imagine we won three.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Three Grammys.

[Brian Green]

Three Grammys. And do you know how old that guy is? 48 years old. It gives us hope, Chris. Yes, it gives us hope that someday we too may be recognized by somebody for something. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm saying there's a chance it might at our advanced age, we're running up on that time. Are we? So, in total, I think that the Grammys were filled with kind of production snafus that made it sometimes difficult to watch.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Performances that were good and bad and that a lot of reflecting was going on, and it made it feel not so youthful. Does that make sense to you?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It does.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And not that I'm the guy who should be talking about what's youthful or not youthful, but I used to get really excited about the Grammys. They would have exciting performances by, you know, Guns N Roses and Madonna and.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You know, it was a big deal. Also, there were not 5 million billion channels of other things.

[Brian Green]

Things. Yeah. I know we keep saying that. We keep you. But it is true. You're right. Yes. You know, SoundCloud, you know, YouTube, Spotify, you know, every app that you can get. You're right about that. Is this heart. It's much harder to be a very famous music star today in 2024 than it was in 1982 when you literally had MTV. And that was the only way. Yeah, that was the only way you could get your music out there. And that had everything to do with PR and talent, but PR agents and agents and publicity and all that other stuff. So I am volunteering. I'm volunteering to host the Grammys next year and make it just a smidge more interesting. If you want technical snafus, bad jokes, and old artists playing music, I got you covered. Check, check, check. The commercial break hosts the Grammys. 2025. Kids, this is. I'm going to knock your dicks in the door. With all the stuff that I have planned, I am literally going to roll Lane Staley's old. Staley's old Bones out there, and man in the box, we're gonna put him right up on stage with us. While the Barenaked Ladies do their best rendition of the rooster.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

33Pmaybe chickadee chick. When the chicken and the roosting 33pmay.

[Brian Green]

Be around there somewhere, 33pmay make a special appearance just because you know you want it. Just write into them and tell them. Anybody who happened to be at the Shady Eight Ochres. Shady Acres, Ochre Ochres Okras. The Shady Okra's Retirement Center. Shady Okra.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Shady Okras.

[Brian Green]

The Shady Okra Retirement Center. That's where I'm going. Shady Okra. That's some shady ochre you got on your plate right there. All right, let's take a quick break, and we're going to be back with Lots more fun.

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[Brian Green]

All right. And we're back. I just want to say this. I think I owe an apology and I'm going to Mayakopa right here on the commercial break, which I don't do very often. Often, but I seem like I'm doing more.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know I was gonna say it.

[Brian Green]

Seems like I'm doing more and more. Yeah, I just did one last week. I don't know if I don't know if I own apology or if I'm just totally off base about this. The other day, I'm scrolling through Insta, Twitter or whatever the fuck I'm on, and I catch a dj, like a young female dj, and it says, you know, French Riviera dj. I made a joke and was mixing this, doing a house remix on this song, and all of the sudden, it's my jam or something along those lines, right? But I had the volume off. So then I turn on the volume and you know what it is? She is house remixing Creed, the band's song, into like a house music song, which everyone is dancing at and going crazy. There's probably 150 people in the room of this club, like this daytime, you know, beach club or whatever, and they are just going bananas. And none of them over the age of 25, none, not one that I could see they were going crazy. I'm six feet on the edge and I'm thinking.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Probably were too young to catch Creed in the first iteration.

[Brian Green]

Everything old is new again.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Exactly.

[Brian Green]

Yes, you're right about this. Everything old is new again. And apparently Creed is coming back into fashion because it wasn't one day later when I saw Paramount Plus, I think is what it was, had a commercial, and that commercial had Creed in the commercial. Drew Barrymore, who's the guy who. Captain Picard. What's his name? You know, I'm talking about from Star Trek. From Star Trek.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

The bald guy.

[Brian Green]

The bald guy. Can never remember his name. Yeah, okay. Captain Picard, Lieutenant Picard, whatever his name was. Family Guy, you know that the kids whose little heads are shaped like footballs. Anyway, a couple football stars. And they're all in this, like, massive, probably way huge budgeted commercial. And up at the top of this mountain is Creed singing their song. And it's hip, it's cool, it's interesting.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Best to Creed.

[Brian Green]

No. What are we talking about?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You had your Creed bad back then.

[Brian Green]

I had no Creed time. My Creed time was never, ever. I. Even if Scott Stapp came on this show, which he's been pitched, right. Even if he came on this show, even if we said yes and everything worked out in his favor and I say his favorite, probably our favorite, but even if that happened, I would still have to tell him directly to his face. Scott stepped. The lead singer, I'm assuming, is the one that would come on the show. Even if he came on the show, I would still have to share with him that I am not the world's biggest Creed fan. And I think that's okay to say. Like, you know, I don't have to like everybody's music. I don't have to like everything about everybody for them to come come on the show. I am not the world's biggest fan. I will say this, and I've said this before on the show, and I'll say it again now. He did move his guitar case so I could put my stroller in an airport. So I'll have to say that.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

That he seemed like a nice guy. That's right. But. And I know that Creed played arenas around the world, and, you know, they were like.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

A lot of people liked Creed.

[Brian Green]

A lot of people like Creed, including a lot of my friends. A lot of my friends were indicated.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

They were. They were hot.

[Brian Green]

Hot for a while. Yes. They were hot for a minute. And they definitely were the band of the moment for, I don't know, maybe a year or two. But what, What, What? What are we doing? They're now, like, headlining Paramount plus commercials. Either Paramount plus has no content whatsoever, or I am just stumbling upon the fact that Creed is having a resurgence in popularity in the underbelly of America. And I am not understanding this. I mean, I have not, I say.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Best agreed on that.

[Brian Green]

Okay, you be nice to everybody. I'm going to tell you how I really feel. You be disingenuous. I'm going to be honest here. It is Creed. Yes. There are some catchy tunes in there, and I get it. There's some earwigs.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Look, they've been. They've been hustling for a long time. You got to give them that.

[Brian Green]

Chris, do you know the story? Do you know what happened to Creed? No. Okay, let me just share with you what. I think the story is based on my. What you think bullshit version of the story. The version of the story is Creed was the hottest thing since sliced bread, and then they quickly fell apart.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, the one thing I didn't care for about Creed was that it sounded very religious. No.

[Brian Green]

Even though it wasn't.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know. I wasn't gonna say religious. I was gonna say he sounded a little too much like he was trying to sound like Eddie Vedder.

[Brian Green]

He. Oh, yeah, yeah. But there was a million people, you know, Stone Temple, Scott Whelan. I did it. Scott Whelan did it. Yeah, right? And Scott Whelan did it to great effect. Stone Temple Pilot's one of the better bands that came out of the 90s, right? Yeah. Still like the Stone Temple Pilots music. And at first, you swore to God that was a Pearl Jam song. You were like, no. That first song that came out, you were like, no, no, no, no. That's a Pearl Jam song. No, no, no, no. Now it's not. It's a band called Stoned Temple Pilots, whatever the fuck that means. So, yes, he did sound a lot like Eddie Vedder, or tried to sound a lot like Eddie. What turned me off was all the shirtless, you know, flying in the air, pretending he's God, you know, Jesus Christ look alike, Jesus Christ Superstar. When they didn't even intend to be a Christian band, they kind of became a Christian band.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Why? Why? What was the Christian part about? I don't remember that.

[Brian Green]

Because a lot of the lyrics started to take on meaning to people in the audience. Like, it kind of caught on that they were a Christian band, even though they never intended to be one. And then they ran with it. They were like, oh, okay, yeah, we're a Christian fan. Sure. Why not? And I think Scott Stab was, like, religious at one point in his life. Right. Can you take me? Like, it was all, like, weird. You know, it was kind of just.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

There in the background for me.

[Brian Green]

Jesus fetish. Right. Okay. So I. I went to one of their concerts. Do you know why I went to one of their concerts?

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

To Hate concert.

[Brian Green]

Because my drug dealer was there. That's why I went to one of their concerts. Literally. The guy was like, you're gonna come to Creed with me? And I was like, no. He's like, y. 80 bucks. Okay, sure. Are the tickets for free? Yes. I need someone to go with. Meanwhile, there are like 30 people that went with the guy. I don't know why I showed up there. I ended up standing around just like, ah, okay. All right, well, can you take me higher? I guess.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

So, people, was it an outdoor show?

[Brian Green]

No, it was an indoor show. A lot of lights, a lot of fire, a lot of Scott Stapps chest. I mean, it was a lot of, like, just stuff that I just. It wasn't for me. Right. It was too. A little too flashy for me. I like my. My rock and roll a little bit more, you know, Eddie Vetterish. I don't know what else to say. Like, put your head down. You're not supposed to be famous. Be humble. But, you know, okay, so they had their moment, and there were a lot of people that liked them. I get that. I don't have to like everything everybody else likes. I don't have to like, you know, just because you like. Not for everyone.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Just like this.

[Brian Green]

Just like this goddamn show. But I swear they are making a comeback, and it is working. Whoever their PR agent is, whatever talent agency, they're working.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You still didn't. You didn't do the story of what happened with Creed?

[Brian Green]

Oh, okay. So Creed fell apart when Scott started to get a little strange. Like he was kind of flying off ego, drugs and alcohol by his own admission. And I had known this because I had a friend that worked at a dance club. She was a manager at a, you know, dance club, a shoe show. A lady of the night. The Cheetah. Right. She was a manager at the shoe. The manager of the ladies at the Cheetah. She would see him, and it was. Her boyfriend was the dealer that I went to the Creed show with. But he had shown up a couple times after shows in Atlanta or for whatever reason, because.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Was he from Atlanta? No, know.

[Brian Green]

No. I think he's from Michigan or something. I don't know. I don't know. But the. She would report back that things were not all Christian with the Christian rock band, if you know what I mean. I'm just sharing that. I don't want to get into he said, she said. But so. And every time she said that, the guy that I was, you know, hanging out with, doing a lot of drugs with, he would get all angry and upset. He's like, no, they'll never do that. And his girlfriend was like, yes, I was just there two hours ago. That's what happened. So things started to fall apart. The band kind of fell out of favor and Scott had some mental health issues, which I don't want to make fun of, but apparently it included not being so nice to his wife and his children. There are many, many phone calls that he made to 911 to his wife, to these other places where he is clearly coming apart at the seams because of drugs, drugs and alcohol, or because of mental health issues or because of a combination of all of them. Yeah, so he was doing a lot of self medicating and so Creed found another singer. They, they started Altar Bridge, I think was the name of the band. They became Alter Bridge.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Now you know way more about Creed than I am. Listen, I do.

[Brian Green]

As a guy who trolls the Internet, this is just what happens. You start to like Osmosis. You start to read this stuff. But then after many years swearing that they would never work together, all of the sudden they make this announcement six months ago that now they're going to do not a tour, but a series of cruise. Cruise ship. Everybody's doing this, everyone's doing the cruise ships. And I think they're doing a festival or something like that. Well, you know, the world tour is now coming because they are now back in favor. When the 20 somethings are remixing your music as house music, dubstep, whatever the fuck, you know, you're coming back into favor. Then Paramount plus ask you to be the lead in their promo commercial or one of the leads in their promo commercial commercial. Things are looking great for you. You have an official comeback and so.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You don't like it.

[Brian Green]

It's not that I don't like it, it's that I don't. I'm not going to their concert and I don't know why anybody else is, but that's okay. That's neither here nor there. Yes, I don't like it. I'm angry with them. I, I want the 33p come back to her. But no one's looking for it. I want to know who they need.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

To touch with the dj.

[Brian Green]

I need to get in touch with their PR agent. This is. Hold on.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, read your own remix.

[Brian Green]

Yes, I wish somebody would remix that song for me. But I don't know who owns the rights to the song. So we're all just staring at each other going, should we reissue that? Reissue it? I think you have to issue it in the first place in order to reissue it briefly. Biden. So I. But I have to say this because on this show, not but two years ago when we were talking about Creed, I claimed that they would never make a comeback. This would never happen. Creed was one of the. Was.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

In the annals of history where your apology comes in.

[Brian Green]

I'm sorry, Scott. I'm sorry, Scott. I'm sorry I ever doubted the power of Creed.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Never.

[Brian Green]

Doubtless you have risen again. After three days or 30 years in the tomb, the boulder has moved. You have risen again. You are, in fact, taking us all higher. And while I may not be rooting for you directly, just know that through Chrissy, I am rooting through you.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, I think I'm rooting. I think I'm back to the same way I felt I've always felt about them. That is none. Not one way or the other. Yeah, listen, they're there. And you know what? If they're making. If they're making some kind of comeback, it's been a long road and.

[Brian Green]

Well, that's true, you know, best to.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Them on their travels up the mountain.

[Brian Green]

Right. I will begrudgingly say it's like the Barenaked Ladies are playing some festival here in Atlanta, and my brother got all excited about it, and I'm like, really? The comeback no one's looking for. But I will say this. If they have a comeback as they're making their comeback, I guarantee that they will be sold out show after show after show because they had enough fans back then, and now the kids are getting into them. Fuck, we're all fucked. We're all fucked. We're all going for another round of Creed. We're all going to say, take me higher for the rest of my life. And I, for one, am not necessarily down for it, but to each their own.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That's right. To each theiro.

[Brian Green]

I kid I act like an angry old man, but I'm really not. I know it's a put on. It's all a put on. I really love Creed. I've got Creed posters all over my. All over my room right here.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It sounds. It sounds like you had a little bit more of a personal investment.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And what their Persona was to everybody else versus what it. What it was.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, you know what? That's right. I. I think. I think I was a little angry at the fact that they looked like the Do Gooder rock band, bringing it higher, but behind closed doors.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Or behind the doors of the strip club.

[Brian Green]

That's right. And I think I got angry at the hypocrisy that I've learned since was never even there, because they never even intended to be a Christian rock band.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Exactly.

[Brian Green]

So I got mad at someone else saying they were a Christian rock band and then I got mad at the them for being a Christian rock band doing lines off strippers tits. You know what I'm saying? That's what happened. All right. It's not complicated when you think about it in my mind, but it might be complicated when you think about it in your mind.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I could tell that was the underlying thing.

[Brian Green]

Thank you. I'm just an angry little piss ant hoping that one day I'll have anybody cheering for me in the manner they cheer for Scott Stout.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I'll always cheer for you.

[Brian Green]

Thank you, but appreciate it. Love you. Love you. All right, okay, enough with the gushy it's commercial. Tcbpodcast.com that's where you go. You find out more information about Chrissy and I. All the audio, all the video right there. One location. You don't have to go anywhere else. You just go to tcbpodcast.com and have your fun. You can also get your free piggy fronting sticker. Your Teresa Caputo not. Not her image. I want to make that clear. We'll talk about her to be brand new show next episode. Oh, huh huh huh. Y free piggy fronting sticker. Go to the website contact us button. Say I want my free sticker. Give us your physical address and away we go. 1626 Ask TCB the number three. That's one 626 Ask TCB the digit three questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas. Ask TCB, ask Brian's mom. Send them all there via text message or voicemail. Add the commercial break on Instagram, TCB podcast on tick tock and YouTube.com the commercial break and my best doctor film.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That was a good one.

[Brian Green]

Thank you. All right, Chrissy. I guess that's all I can do for today.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

But I'll tell you that I love you.

[Shira Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

I'll say best to you, best to you. And I'll tell you best you out there in the audience. Even Scott Stapp. Until next time we do say we must say and we will say goodbye. Sa.