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EP908: Bryan and Krissy reminisce about the gold days of Atlanta,,,when Mick Jagger had a restaurant there??? No!
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Host 1
And welcome back to WSHIT's Couples Corner, where we take listener questions about relationships and bring experts in to help navigate the ups and downs and the ins and outs of love. Mindy writes in My husband and I were married for 25 happy years until last Tuesday when I found nude photographs of our nanny and uncovered an affair that's been going on for four years.
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Brian Green
Hmm.
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Host 1
I'm holding space for that, Mindy, she continues. I sent the photographs around to the PTA email list. My husband's living in a Motel 6, I'm taking care of four small children. I think I'm about to get laid off from work and divorce is right around the corner. Any advice? Well, Mindy, we're really feeling this in our heart chakra. So we tapped into source and put out a call to the light beings and we were blessed with a response. Dr. Frenella Lundenpop from the United Kingdom is an expert on holistic healing for couples and families. We dialed her up, told her your story, and here's the response she had
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Dr. Frenella Lundenpop
for have you got your minge around the tree recently? Because I'm gonna vouch for this. This is one of the most healing things that you can do. All you need a tree and a minge. Now we just need to stop a sort of very comfortable position there. Arms right round, give it a big squeeze. I highly recommend it. Feeling shit. Minge on a tree.
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Listener/Caller
Feeling sad.
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Dr. Frenella Lundenpop
Minj on a tree. Feeling happy. Minj on a goddamn tree serves so many purposes. I thoroughly, thoroughly recommend it. Get down to a forest now and get your goddamn minj a tree.
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Host 1
Wow. Such powerful and authentic advice, Mindy. Ride a tree, save a marriage. We'll be back after this commercial break.
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Brian Green
On this episode of the Commercial Break, Mick Jagger was the nicest, nicest guy you could have imagined. I mean, he really was generous to a fault.
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Chris Hoadley
Love that.
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Brian Green
Nice as he could be talking to everybody in the anybody that wanted to have a conversation, he stood for a
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Chris Hoadley
minute giving out gift cards to mix.
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Brian Green
Giving out gift cards to mix to Chrissy's version of mix, which is Mick Jagger. 17 locations throughout the Atlanta area. It's franchise. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh yeah. Cats and kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Chris and Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chris.
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Chris Hoadley
Best you, Brian.
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Brian Green
Best you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for joining us. The other day we were talking about mix, which you mistakenly had thought that it was Mick Jagger's restaurant was not Mick Jagger's restaurant. But I can kind of see how you might have thought that got it all twin twangled in your head. Though I did find a notable mention about Mick Jagger here in Atlanta. And that Mick spent quite a bit of time here in Atlanta. He would like lived here for a period of time. He filmed a movie here. I can't remember the name of the movie, but it was like some sci fi, futuristic sci fi movie. What was that called? A Night Run, Something like that. Anyway, he's the star of the movie. It's terrible. I've seen it. But it's filmed here in Atlanta. So for a period of time, Mick Jagger and Atlanta were kind of a thing.
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Chris Hoadley
Co mingling.
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Brian Green
We were co mingling. But I got to thinking about mix and that restaurant and I got to looking back at pictures about that restaurant and what I realized after we got done recording that episode was not only do I know mix, not only had I been to mix, not only did I remember the whole mix situation, but I went there for homecoming.
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Listener/Caller
Yes.
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Chris Hoadley
It was like one of those kind of places.
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Brian Green
Yes. You know, for years. You know, you get a little older, a little longer in the tooth and memories sometimes become like cartoons. They're little snapshots. You remember certain things, but it's not crystal clear. Everything is not crystal clear. You'll learn this as you get older, kids. It's not all crystal clear. Fun's jits and giggles. It's almost like a dream like thing that you're just remembering.
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Chris Hoadley
And I remember especially like high school.
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Brian Green
Oh God, high school. That's like. That seems 10 lifetimes away, 10 lifetimes ago. But I remember calling the limousine company. Yeah, I remember picking up the white pages, which. The white pages, kids, was an actual phone book where they had phone numbers listed for businesses and people. Well, excuse me, the yellow pages was for the businesses. The white pages was for the people. So I picked up the yellow pages and I looked up limousine and I remember calling the limousines. I was in charge. I remember calling the limos, arranging the limousine, and then getting the limousine to pick us up. And me and the girl that I took to homecoming, Brooke, who I'm still friendly with to this day, beautiful young lady. We went to where Mix Mix. That's where we went to mix. Not only did we go to mix for homecoming, but we went to mix for a Sadie Hawkins dance one in my eighth grade year. So we went twice to mix for that kind of event. And I am sure looking back on it now that we drove the wait staff absolutely bananas for the Sadie Hawkins dance. I remember there was like 30 of us were there and we all had our, you know, $20 in our pockets and we're making change. I know God bless. The waiter or waitress has probably long since left this earth because I'm that old. But at this point, yeah, maybe they're in their 60s or 70s, I don't know, who knows? But that was like, now I remember Mix. It was that type of place. It was like a.
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Chris Hoadley
It was like an elevated.
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Brian Green
Elevated casual is what it was. Elevated casual. But it was a thing here in Atlanta. You would go to Mix sometimes for special occasions. The teenagers love to go there. It was like a place to go for prom, homecoming, a dance. And it was quite the place. It was quite the.
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Chris Hoadley
Coming back to you now.
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Brian Green
So you were. We were talking about this place, Mix, and then we were talking about Mick Jagger potentially owning Mix, which was not true. He did not own Mix. But I understand maybe that was my
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Chris Hoadley
brain remembering things and the lore.
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Brian Green
Yeah, that's. Remember how I told you that memories become like cartoons, all swishy, swashy, mixed up in your head? Yeah. Like Mick Jagger owned Mix. Yeah. Mick did not own Mix because he probably has. He probably has a financial advisor that advises him never to own a restaurant.
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Chris Hoadley
Exactly.
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Brian Green
Unless you just want a place to drink and eat, you want a really expensive kitchen. Own a restaurant. That's what they'll tell you. So I'm googling and I'm looking at pictures of mix and it's all coming back to me. It's all coming back. It's coming back to me now. La la la la la la la la. Celine Dion. As I'm crying in the studio listening to Celine Dion. Anyway, Tears streaming, tears streaming down my face with my headset on. In my moomoo at night, your slippers. Blue barking at me for treats. Dumb dog. I'm back to the. I'm back to dumb dog. Cause I'm like, well, by the way, update on Blue's health. I don't think the heart issue is anything to be immediately concerned about. So thank you for.
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Chris Hoadley
Is fine.
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Brian Green
She seems to be acting just fine.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah, not fine, but normal.
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Brian Green
Yeah, normal. Not okay, but normal. Which is absolutely crazy. So I'm googling and I'm looking back and Mick Jagger Mix. Mick Jagger, Atlanta Mick Jagger. And bam. Up comes the story. And this story I was loosely involved with. And here's the story. I'll tell it real quick. As we were talking about as we ever interacted with celebrities here in Atlanta. I worked for a company, a SEO company. You too can get your SEOs. Don't you want to rank highly on the Google? The first page of Google, first page of Google's. It's going to change your life. And actually at that time, being on the first page of Google would change your life. That's back in the, you know, go go Google days. I worked for this company that did SEO and like high priced website design, you know, paying like $150,000 for a really nice website which is insane to think about now but I mean there are people who pay 150,000 doll, but there are people who have no idea how to build a website. They spend too much money. So here I am selling my SEOs and my paper clicks in this old building in downtown Atlanta across the street from what used to be the Fed Reserve building. And at that time was just like an old office building, empty office building. And imagine this old row of like this five story building and it's just an old building that has, some of it has been renovated for like weird office space. We like literally had an old elevator shaft in the middle of our office and if you walked in the wrong place you would fall three stories. It was crazy. And they were charging rent for this. It was like the windows were from 1922 so you couldn't see anything out of no insulation. Freezing cold.
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Chris Hoadley
Thin, thin glass.
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Brian Green
Thin glass, yeah. But we were in the hip hip,
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Chris Hoadley
you know, hip hip Atlanta, vintage.
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Brian Green
Right next door to the old Omni Phipps Arena, Phillips arena, which is like a wonderful place to be at this time. This is probably 2006 or 2007. And in this same row, on this same building, in this row of like, you know, stuff that's up and down this street across from this very large, what used to be Federal Reserve there is an old hotel that I think was called the Magic Hotel or something along those lines. And it still got its old promenade like the board were. Imagine you go to a movie theater, an old movie theater and it says
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Chris Hoadley
now showing Imperial or something.
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Brian Green
The Imperial? Yes, yes, maybe that was what it was. It was a, it was a hotel at one time. A very like famous hotel where, I don't know, I don't know, the Go Go girls would go, you know what I'm saying? That kind of hotel. But it was infamous among some people and famous and this big promenade that said Imperial. And then it had this board where you could put letters and stuff like that. It was old, it Was abandoned. It was right next door to the entrance to where we had our office. And then there was, like, a shoe store, an old. A cafe where they made terrible food. But it was the only place within two miles where you could get food.
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Chris Hoadley
That's all you could do.
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Brian Green
So cafe, then us, then the Imperial, then a shoe store, like an old man's shoe store. Cobbler, a true cobbler. And then at the end of the street was like, a hair place or something, like a barber or something like that. You have to park about a block and a half away. And then you'd walk. You park. They had, like. We had these parking passes. We could go into this particular lot. And then you would walk up the street and go. So one day we get a knock at the door, the office door. Landlord. Landlord puts it, gives us a piece of paper. He said, don't ask. I can't tell you. Just read the piece of paper. You'll know. And it says, starting tomorrow through whatever. Let's say it's Wednesday. Starting tomorrow through Friday, you will have to park in this parking lot. You will have to have your identification to get on the street. And the building will be locked down unless you absolutely need to go inside or outside. We will be filming. And I'm like, what the fuck is this all about? So we're like, who. Who are you filming? What's going on? What movie? This is long before Atlanta was like the movie capital.
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Chris Hoadley
Every other day. I get that notice.
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Brian Green
Yeah, I know. It's like, yeah, that's just a common thing now, you know, he won't tell us. He's not budging. He's not saying a word. He literally drops it off and he's out the door before we have a chance to really grill him. And so then all the tenants of this office, like these other tenants in the office, we're all, like, getting together. We are Googling, because that's what we do. You know who's in town, what movie is filming. Can't find anything else about it. But the only thing that we do find is that at the Georgia Dome at the time. The Georgia Dome playing that weekend. This is a Rolling Stones.
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Chris Hoadley
Does this involve you smoking a cigarette?
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Brian Green
What's that?
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Chris Hoadley
Does this involve you smoking a cigarette?
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Brian Green
Smoking a cigarette and meeting Keith Richards.
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Chris Hoadley
Yes. I knew it.
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Brian Green
You've heard this story. You've heard all my stories. So I'm just sharing it with the audience now. You have to suffer twice through it. But they only have to.
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Chris Hoadley
That's okay. I like it again.
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Brian Green
So we but we can't imagine why the Rolling Stones, who haven't made a new album in years, why would they would be filming? Maybe, maybe not. We just assumed it was some movie that we didn't know about. We can't find information about next morning. Come in. Street is closed off. Two cop cars on one side, two cop cars on the other side. Movie truck. Big old trailers, like, you know, like movie star trailers are sitting in the middle of the street. They are putting contraptions on the Imperial Hotel. Lighting. A boom. Like a big boom. A rain machine at the very top of the Imperial Hotel where they can spray rain down. Like all this stuff is going on construction. But no one will tell us exactly what is going on. No one. And they said the only thing that we could do is we made friendly. We made nice, nice with one of the crew. And he said, listen, I really cannot say a word because it could cause a lot of trouble. He said, but just know this, you probably want to be into work early tomorrow, like 6:00am And I was like, 6:00am oh, wow. I go home, I tell my wife at the time, I don't know what's going on. I don't know who's going to be there. But this is a big deal. Like, there's a lot of shit going down. They already have police officers and security, and there's not even anyone there. I get up at 5am which at that time was probably. I stayed up till 5am I went into work at 6am I parked the car a mile and a half away. I walked, walked up, showed my badge, you know, got in the door. And then about an hour, we were facing the. The opposite way, so we could not see. We didn't have any windows to see what was going on up front. But one of the other guys that we knew did. So every 15 minutes we would run in and check and see, but we just couldn't see anything going on. A lot of people mulling around, a lot of, like, construction guys going in and out of the Imperial Hotel. And then we saw it. We saw a black Town Car pull up. The cops parted ways, pulled up to one of the trailers, and out popped what we thought, what we assumed was the back of the head of Mick Jagger. And we were like, no, shit, it's Mick Jagger. Holy shit. So I run downstairs because I smoke cigarettes. And I had to smoke a cigarette. And even though they told us not to go outside for any reason, how can they really keep us inside?
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Chris Hoadley
No, they can't.
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Brian Green
The restaurant is still open down at the one corner, even though the road is blocked off and the shoe store is still open, even though the road is blocked off, everyone's still open because we all want a reason to be there while Mick Jagger is there. So I go downstairs and there's a bunch of people, you know, a bunch of folks from these buildings are kind of mulling around outside, you know, getting excited, staring, you know, we're all on the sidewalk, and up I'm smoking this cigarette, and up comes this very lovely human being walks up, and he says, hey, man, can I borrow a smoke? And I said, yeah, okay. You know, borrow a smoke. He's got these passes that are dangling, but none of them really have to do with the Rolling Stones. But anyway. And so I'm smoking, a little uncomfortable. I don't know what to say to the guy. And I'm like, hey, are you with this whole thing? He says, yeah, I am. This is pretty exciting, huh? And I go, oh, yeah, it really is exciting. He goes, but this is the first video I've been around. And I said, oh, cool, what do you do? And he says, I'm a guitar tech. And I go, oh, a guitar tech for who? And he goes, a guitar tech for Keith Richards. And I was like, holy shit.
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Chris Hoadley
Wow.
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Brian Green
No fucking way. You're a guitar tech. You're the guitar tech for Keith Richards. And he goes, I am. And I go, is he here? Not now, but he's going to be here later. But, you know, I didn't have anything to do. We're here playing, so I just thought I'd come by and check it out. Yeah. And he said, you know, I might need to, like, pretend to tune a guitar later or something. And I go, what are they doing? Filming a video for their new. For their new latest song. I'm like, wow, that's. That's awesome. And he goes, yeah, we're taking over the hotel. Hotel. It's like a whole rain thing, an empty building kind of thing. And I was like, that's. That's incredible. He goes, yeah. So we talk for a few minutes. Other people are kind of crowding around us because now he's got the attention of everybody, right?
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Chris Hoadley
He's in the know.
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Brian Green
Exactly. So. So anyway, so this. So we talk for, like five minutes, and then he scoots on off. Now listen to this. So I go down to the cafe. I go to get like a burger or wrap or whatever. I'm like, I'm just really excited. I just want to walk around the street is what I want. To do. I gotta make myself look busy, right?
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Chris Hoadley
You gotta have a reason.
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Brian Green
So I go down there, completely empty. It's just a couple people from the building. It usually has a lot of people in there because it's really one of the places to eat around. And the food is terrible, but the people are really nice, you know, and it's like a. It's at that time, like $5 for lunch or whatever. And so I said to the old. The old lady behind the counter, I said, that's gonna suck. You closed for three days, essentially. You can't get anybody else in here. She goes, oh, no, no, no. They paid me good money. They paid me really good money to close my store. She's like, I don't care. And they let me keep on feeding the people who are in here. And she goes, and who knows? Maybe one of these guys will walk in and have. And I said, oh, that's great. So I get it. And as I'm walking back out, the most sharply dressed man I have ever seen in my entire life. We're talking, like white linen suit with an ascot and hair and million dollar sunglasses and rings and jewelry and shoes that were shot. I could see my face in. Is walking in and he's just like. He opens the door like this. He's like, you know, with the back of his hand, right? Like a proper gentleman does. Yes. Swings. It opens.
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Listener/Caller
Mm.
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Brian Green
And I said, oh, excuse. I said, excuse me. And he goes. And he goes, darling, just, you know, if this shoe store at the end here sells shoes or makes shoes, what's the shoe store deal? And I go, I don't know. Actually, I've never been to the shoe store. But I'm sure it's.
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Chris Hoadley
You want to go together?
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Brian Green
I'm sure it's great. Yeah, no, that's not what I said. But I go, I'm sure it's nice. It's been there for a long time. Yeah. And he goes, so much time to kill. That's what he said. He goes, so much time to kill. I wanted to stay, but I'm leaving out the door. What can I do? Just turn around and sit there and watch this. I look like I've. The guy's not. I don't even know if the guy's famous, but he looks to be famous. Like, I think he must be famous.
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Listener/Caller
Yeah, yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
He had the air.
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Brian Green
He had the air of femininity. Famininity.
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Chris Hoadley
Famininity, famininity.
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Brian Green
So I go back out. Now I'm smoking another cigarette. Now I'm like killing myself double time with cigarettes. Cause now I don't wanna leave. Now I'm like, I'm caught up.
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Chris Hoadley
Food, cigarettes, yes,
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Brian Green
terrible food that I'm not eating. Fifteen cigarettes. It's not even 8:30 in the morning. I've got no work done. Zero work. My boss is pissed. But he understands, right?
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Chris Hoadley
He.
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Brian Green
They're also, they don't smoke, but they're also like, you know, coming up and down the stairs and checking it out. So I'm standing there, guy comes out, no food in hand, nothing, right? Comes, comes out five, 10 minutes later. And he walks into the trailer and he grabs Mick Jagger and the two of them go down to the shoe store. Okay, I don't know what they do in the shoe store. But now the. There is a buzz in the air. Everyone is a buzzing about Mick Jagger and this guy flitting and flotting around town. So hour later, you know, I go upstairs to pretend like I'm working for 15 minutes, go back downstairs to smoke them. My 15th cigarette of the hour. And old boy is back. Hey, guitar tech is back. And he's not smoking. He just wants to. He's shooting the shit. Hey, man, da da, da da, yada yada, ba da. Okay, yeah. I go, who is that guy that's with Mick? He like, he looks not, you know, he's really fancily dressed. He goes, oh, that's Mick's boy. And I go, like boyfriend? He goes, no, no, no, don't get it mixed up. It's his boy. And I go, oh, okay. What does that mean? He goes, oh, the shopping, the restaurants, the. He takes care of the things. He does the things, right? Whatever the things are. He does the things. The personal assistant. Personal assistant. What do they call them? Like a professional concierge? Like a personal concierge. I had never even heard that this was a thing.
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Chris Hoadley
A man in waiting.
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Brian Green
A man in waiting. That's it. That's what I'm looking. That's the term. I'm looking for. A man in waiting. Like a guy like Prince Charles has one of these, right? They just follow him around and fluff him up wherever he goes. You know, his hair's a mess. They do his hair, you know, sunglasses are dirty, that he cleans.
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Chris Hoadley
Of course you have to have the. In waiting.
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Brian Green
Oh my God. This was like I. My eyes were open now. I wanted all of this. I was like, this is amazing. I want a man in waiting. I want a trailer, I want to rent a hotel for the day to do nothing, you know? Have everybody stand around. It was just like the. Being in. This was so much excitement. And Mick Jagger is so fucking famous that gravity bends when he's around. I was. I'm not even the biggest Rolling Stone fan in the world. I love the Rolling Stones, but I'm not the biggest Rolling Stones fan in the world. And there were only maybe a hundred of us that were privy to even be on the street when this was going on, like, general public. And everybody was taken with Mick. When he comes back out of the shoe store, he comes over and kindly chats with anybody who had something to say.
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Chris Hoadley
So nice.
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Brian Green
It was amazing. We got to say hello, we got to talk, we got to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Chris Hoadley
I've seen that and heard that he's really friendly. When he. They just were in town, you know, a couple years ago, Mick was about town.
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Brian Green
Yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
It was like at the Claremont Lounge and popping up here, there, everywhere, taking pictures.
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Brian Green
The most amazing thing about this whole. That, by the way, went on for two days. Like, this all went on for two days. Mick and Keith were there. I have a really crazy story about Keith Richards, but I don't know if I'm gonna share it on air, because I don't know if I should. But. But the craziest thing was, is that. So Mick goes and he records whatever he's doing, you know, blocking, camera blocking or whatever. This goes on for a couple of hours. And I'm. Now, it's like 7 o' clock at night, and I'm still there, and my wife is wondering where I am. But the lights and the rain machine, it's all very exciting to me. And I've been hanging around now with this guitar tech. And the guitar tech says, listen, if you want to go to the show, I got a couple tickets. I can certainly get you a couple tickets if you want to go to the show. I'm thinking, this is amazing. When Mick comes out at one point, he's over there and he's talking, him and the boy and the guy, and they're talking to the guitar tech, and I'm standing close, and the guitar tech says, I think we're gonna get him to come to the show. And Mick says, well, great. Well, treat him right, then. Treat him right. Make sure he's sitting. Make sure he's sit. And he goes, yeah. Oh. The guitar tech goes, will do. Yeah. You mean like close, close? And he says, on stage close? And I was like, on stage close? Yes, because that's where the rich people sit, is on stage.
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Chris Hoadley
Oh, yeah.
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Brian Green
Rich people don't sit out in the crowd. Not Brian Greene. No siree Bob. I'm wearing.
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Chris Hoadley
You gotta know somebody.
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Brian Green
Yes.
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Chris Hoadley
Side stage.
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Brian Green
I'm wearing slacks that are three sizes too big with a Huebera and shoes from 8th grade.
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Chris Hoadley
Doc Martens.
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Brian Green
Doc Martens. I must have looked like such a bum. The way that I dressed back then was like a mishmash of craziness. It really was. It was total craziness. Mick Jagger was the nicest, nicest guy you could have imagined. I mean, he really was generous to a fault.
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Chris Hoadley
Love that.
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Brian Green
Nice as he could be talking to everybody in the. Anybody that wanted to have a conversation. He stood for a minute giving out
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Chris Hoadley
gift cards to mix.
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Brian Green
Giving out gift cards to mix. To Chrissy's version of mix, which is Mick Jaggers. 17 locations throughout the Atlanta area. It's franchise. And who knows? Maybe Mick will show up. I just had to tell this story because it. When you said Mick Jagger, I. It's. The story slipped my mind, but it's the most obvious story to tell. That Mick Jagger really is very, very nice.
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Chris Hoadley
Did you go to the shop?
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Brian Green
I did. I went to the show and I went to the show.
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Chris Hoadley
They put on a great show and
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Brian Green
I sat on stage.
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Chris Hoadley
Nice.
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Brian Green
Yeah. I sat literally in a metal chair on stage side stage.
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Chris Hoadley
It doesn't get better than that.
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Brian Green
It does not get better than that. And Keith Richards was nice enough to give me a high five on the way out the door. And what more could you ask for? I didn't really.
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Chris Hoadley
A pack of cigarettes.
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Brian Green
A pack of cigarettes.
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Chris Hoadley
It worked.
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Brian Green
The best thing about the. That's it. That's all you needed. Smoking cigarettes has its benefits, kids. It really does. Because every musician probably smokes cigarettes. The best thing about all of this. The funniest thing about all of this, the best thing about all of this is not actually the Rolling Stones, but do you remember that band that sang the song Little Miss, Little Miss, Little Miss Camperone.
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Chris Hoadley
Of course.
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Brian Green
Remember that. What was the name of that. Gonna be?
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Chris Hoadley
Dang, it's on the tip of my tongue.
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Brian Green
Ah.
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Chris Hoadley
We were just talking about. We were just, I think the other day.
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Brian Green
Little Miss, Little Miss, Little Miss can't be wrong. Spin Doctors.
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Chris Hoadley
Spin Doctors.
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Brian Green
The best part about this was is that the guitar tech was like good friends with the Spin Doctors, who also happened to be in town. And I went to the Spin Doctors concert. And let me tell you something. While the Rolling Stones were great, the Spin Doctors are where the party is at.
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Chris Hoadley
Oh, yeah.
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Brian Green
That guy is crazy.
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Chris Hoadley
Really?
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Brian Green
That dude is crazy. I don't even know if I should tell that. I mean, that story is insane. But the spin doctors know how to party. That's all I gotta say. The Rolling Stones, you're probably not going to get to party with them. No spin doctors, anybody? It's all welcome. Yeah. When you're a one hit wonder and your days have long since passed and you're just hoping to sell tickets. Share the drugs. That's all I gotta say. Share the drugs. All right. Hey, listen, we might talk to some listeners. Let's see if we can get them on the phone. I see the phone is ringing. So let's do this. Let's take a break and when we get back, maybe we'll. We'll talk to somebody. We'll be back.
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Listener/Caller
Okay.
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Rachel
You're probably wondering why I, Rachel, have taken over the voice duties at tcb. It's pretty simple. Astrid asked me to shut Brian up, even for a minute. Well, lovely Astrid, your wish is my command. Do you want to help Astrid, too? You know you do. Leave a message for her or me or Chrissy at 212-4333 TCB. That's 212-433-3822. You can be on the show, too. Just call and say something, anything. Or text us and we'll text you right back. Promise. Then head over to tcbpodcast.com and get your free sticker. It's your constitutional right to a sticker, and we must abide. You get the point? Follow us on Instagram hecommercial break and watch all the episodes on video@YouTube.com the commercial break. Best to you and Astrid. Especially Astrid.
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Brian Green
Yeah, that's a hard one to get out of your head there. Yes.
- [27:34]
Chris Hoadley
Thanks for getting that. My bad.
- [27:35]
Brian Green
That's a hard one to get out of your head. That was. That was an interesting song. And it was an ear. Worm.
- [27:49]
Chris Hoadley
Worm, yes.
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Brian Green
That just went like, you know, 1990s viral, which meant that they played it every 15 minutes on the radio. It didn't stop. The Spin Doctors were everywhere and for the life of me cannot remember another song that they sang. Not. Not one song that they sang. But this whole conversation reminds me that I wanted to share something with you, see if there's another song.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah, that's what I was just gonna look up and just probably. There probably was at least one more.
- [28:19]
Brian Green
Well, yeah, all one hit wonders have that other song, Right? The other song that almost. Almost was as famous because gravity kind of pulled them along with it. Right. So it's like, I don't know. It's just one of those things. Okay, hold on.
- [28:34]
Chris Hoadley
Pocket Full of Kryptonite.
- [28:36]
Brian Green
Pocket full of Kryptonite. No, it's the same song.
- [28:40]
Chris Hoadley
Pocket Full of Kryptonite was the name of the album. Okay, I got Little Miss Canby wrong. Cleopatra's Cat. Maybe there were Cleopatra's Cats.
- [28:49]
Brian Green
Cleopatra's Cat. Okay. All right.
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Chris Hoadley
That's their top song.
- [28:58]
Brian Green
Cleopatra's Cats. That's so good. I didn't realize how terrible they were. No, that was on their follow up
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Chris Hoadley
album of Turn It Upside Down.
- [29:16]
Brian Green
There's like most of our audience has no idea what we're talking about here.
- [29:20]
Chris Hoadley
Well, yeah. Pocket Flow Kryptonite came out in 91.
- [29:24]
Brian Green
Oh, geez. It was a lot.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah, that's older than I thought it was.
- [29:27]
Brian Green
Oh, Two princes.
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Chris Hoadley
Two princes.
- [29:29]
Brian Green
Two princes can't ignore.
- [29:32]
Chris Hoadley
Oh, yeah.
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Listener/Caller
Is that.
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Chris Hoadley
If you want to call me baby,
- [29:36]
Brian Green
Just go ahead now that's two princes. Yes.
- [29:43]
Chris Hoadley
Okay. Well, that one was probably about as famous.
- [29:45]
Brian Green
579 million streams of that song on Spotify. They have 4.1 million monthly listeners. Maybe the Spin Doctors were the hit. I didn't think they were. Are the Spin Doctors good? And I just missed it. I mean, I went to their concert. Now, granted, I was pretty drunk, but 60 million on little Miss Can't Be Wrong.
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Chris Hoadley
Oh, and you know what? God, it all. Everything. Everything goes back to John Popper.
- [30:20]
Brian Green
Oh, I remember this one too. Okay. What?
- [30:22]
Chris Hoadley
Everything goes back to John Popper with us, doesn't it?
- [30:24]
Brian Green
Yes, it all goes back. It all goes back to Paw Paw
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Chris Hoadley
Popper because they were also known as the trucking company until John Popper's departure. So he was a part of the.
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Brian Green
John Popper was a part of the Spin Doctors. Where the fuck did I fall off the turnip truck? Well, you can't have two, like, lead singers. You can't have a guy with great songs like Cleopatra's Cat and John Popper in the same band. That's too much talent in one band. Yeah, that'd be like. That'd be like having a. Yeah, John
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Chris Hoadley
Popper was part of it.
- [30:58]
Brian Green
John Popper. Was he their first lead singer or something?
- [31:01]
Chris Hoadley
Yeah, well, it says they were known as the trucking company. That was the name of the band,
- [31:04]
Brian Green
the Trucking company, before John left. Well, I would say that in both cases, they made a smart decision because the Spin Doctors and Blues Travelers is infinitely better than the trucking company. Where you going tonight? I'm going to see the trucking company okay. Where are you going to see them? Open mic, that's where. That's the difference. Okay. I remember this song too, And that's called Jimmy Olsen's Blues. I'm just going down the list here to see if we can. No, don't remember that one.
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Chris Hoadley
Well, play Cleopatra's Cat.
- [31:52]
Brian Green
Well, Cleopatra's Cat. Wow, they've been making out. Oh, they just put out an album. Face full of cake. Okay. All right. Not strong in the naming department, but okay. I did see them for free, so I guess there's that. I can't even find Cleopatra cat here. Maybe they changed the name. Maybe they decided. Nope, not on that. No, Literally, can't find Cleopatra's cat. Spin Doctors from the Road, 1994. Pocket full of Kryptonite.
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Chris Hoadley
Right. That was the name of the album.
- [32:37]
Brian Green
Oh, you want to play this? Cleopatra's Cat.
- [32:39]
Chris Hoadley
The song.
- [32:40]
Brian Green
Here it is. Oh, the song. Okay, here.
- [32:41]
Chris Hoadley
Song by. Has been Doctors.
- [32:43]
Brian Green
Okay. Was it on Cleopatra? Was it on Pocket Full of Kryptonite?
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Chris Hoadley
No.
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Brian Green
Home Belly Groove. Okay, hold on one second. Cleo.
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Chris Hoadley
The lyrics are interesting.
- [32:58]
Brian Green
I'm sure they are. Okay. Cleopatra's Cat. Here we go. Okay.
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Listener/Caller
Cleopatra's finger.
- [33:09]
Brian Green
Okay, that was enough of that. All right. That was not Two princes. We can all admit that's not.
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Chris Hoadley
You know, they took it down.
- [33:18]
Brian Green
Yeah, they. They had to take it down. That guy. You can't run like that. That's like your kid go 180 miles per hour all day long. That guy is crazy. I mean, I saw him 15 years after their one. I mean, they didn't. Okay, so they had two or three songs that you'd remember, but I saw them 15 years after that, and that guy was still bouncing around like he was 12 years old. Yeah, it was insane. And Blues Traveler. We got to give it to Blues Traveler about something. They. They had infinitely more listenable songs than Spin Doctors that I know of. But with 4.1 million listeners a month,
- [33:55]
Chris Hoadley
they're still doing something right.
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Brian Green
They're still doing something right. Let's see what Blues Traveler has here. Hold on. Blues Traveler has. No, not the playlist. I want to see the artist. Are you ready for this? In a great injustice of one of the injustices of our time, Blues Traveler only has 2.3 million listeners a month, while Spin Doctors have 4.1. Wow, that's crazy. Runaround only has 161 million streams, while 2 Princes has 563 million. How is that possible? What are you people thinking?
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Chris Hoadley
I don't know. It needs to. We need to put it in a TikTok, get it back out there.
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Brian Green
Let's think about another band of that time that was very similar in. Maybe not similar. They were really quite unlike anything I had ever heard before at the time. But I burned out the album, as did everybody that I knew. Rusted Root. Oh, you remember Rusted Root. Okay, yeah.
- [34:59]
Chris Hoadley
What was the name of that album? So tonight I Might See or something like that. What?
- [35:04]
Brian Green
On My Way. No. Oh, I don't want to hold my little hand.
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Chris Hoadley
Oh, my God. We're really reliving our 90s.
- [35:26]
Brian Green
Rusted root has 3.2 million. God damn. What happened to you people? Spotify the whole thing up for everybody. That's all I gotta say. But Send Me on my way rightfully has 5. 529.
- [35:42]
Chris Hoadley
That was everywhere too.
- [35:44]
Brian Green
God, still everywhere. It's on commercials.
- [35:46]
Chris Hoadley
Oh, it is.
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Brian Green
I see it. Send Me on my Rusted roots. Send Me On My Way is coming back in fashion, as all things do. Pretty soon we're all gonna be hearing Two Princes again. Also, we're gonna be walking in that retirement home. And two princes. Send me on my way Send me on my way.
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Chris Hoadley
Makes sense.
- [36:03]
Brian Green
That's right. And Black from Pearl Jam is going to be playing Alice in Chains. Alice in Chains, if there's any justice in the world, Alice in Chains. If not, it's going to be Cleopatra's Cat. Unbelievable. Cleopatra's Cat. What are we thinking? That's a terrible name for us all. It's a terrible subject for a song. You don't do Cleopatra's cat. Cleopatra. You talk about Cleopatra. No one cared about her cat. But very briefly, what I did want to talk about while we're talking about music, since we've wasted 20 minutes on spin Doctors. My fault.
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Chris Hoadley
Everybody can listen to Blues Traveler and get those monthly.
- [36:51]
Brian Green
Yeah, get those monthly things up. Let's. Let's give Blues Traveler the. The time of day that they deserve. Because Blues Traveler, honestly. And if you've ever seen Blues Traveler live, then you know Blues Traveler is one of the great live rock and roll bands.
- [37:04]
Chris Hoadley
They. They really are. They were part of that first, like, Horde.
- [37:07]
Brian Green
Yeah, Horde tour. I think they helped put it.
- [37:09]
Chris Hoadley
Lollapalooza. Maybe.
- [37:11]
Brian Green
They were in Lollapalooza. I saw them at Lollapalooza. They did Hoard, which was short lived, but very good. It was kind of more. They. I think Rusted Root also did the Hoard Festival. Those. Those like early baby festivals that now have turned into these, you know, mega monolith huge festivals, like all Those little seedlings were planted really in the 90s, all like, all trying to be the next Woodstock, but a stampable, outable version of Woodstock. A little more contained, a little more, you know, okay, let's put some good bands together. Let's have a day, maybe two when we go out there. Or three in the case of Lollapalooza, where we go out there, we play for a couple of days, have. And I think the first La Palooza was one day. I think it was one day and I think it was like 20 bands in one day, starting at noon, ending at midnight, you know, kind of thing.
- [37:58]
Chris Hoadley
I went to it one year. I went to a couple in high school.
- [38:02]
Brian Green
Yeah, yeah, it was insane.
- [38:04]
Chris Hoadley
Rage against the Machine was there. I love Rage.
- [38:06]
Brian Green
Rage against the Machine. They also had one about the Tibetan. The Tibetan Buddhist. Yeah, remember that one? Beastie Boys, Widespread Panic. It was like a bunch of bands that played from that. But you think about those early quote unquote festivals, which was not like camping. It was just like you'd show up at the place, you'd see a whole day of music. Those were all fucking fantastic. And now they've turned into these huge events where you spend a million dollars and you know, we've talked about it. I need to beat it up. But one of the things I did want to talk about while we were on music is Henry Hall. Do you remember Henry Hall?
- [38:44]
Chris Hoadley
Yes, yes, yes.
- [38:45]
Brian Green
Sharp eared. Commercial break Listeners will remember that I was a fan of a show called Friday Night Dinner. A Friday Night Dinner was a show from the UK about Friday night dinner, the traditional dinner before the Sabbath that Jewish people have. It was a comedy show. It was on for like four or five seasons. It is a beloved comedy show in the uk. It is hilarious. I don't know where you can see it right now. They might have one season on Amazon. It's weird. The licensing rights are all over the place with this show, so it's really hard to find. But they did a US version of this and we had Henry hall who was one of the guys who was on that show. That US version is called Dinner with the Parents and it is also very funny. We had Henry and another co star of his on the show. Henry told us at the time that he was doing music, he was going to put out an album.
- [39:40]
Chris Hoadley
He's Julia Louis Dreyfus son.
- [39:42]
Brian Green
That's right. And he was going to put out an album and check it out and maybe I'll come back when I it, you know, when I put the album out or whatever. You know, it was so long ago, I didn't think much of it. And not that I. Not that I was, like, being dismissive of Henry, but I just didn't think much of it until the other night when I was scrolling on YouTube and I saw Henry playing one of his songs in, like, kind of an artsy video at a studio, like one of his songs from the album. He went into a studio, a director and some other musicians got together and they did the kind of this artsy live version of a song called Loose. And Loose L, U C E. And the song blew my fucking mind. I was like, it's really good.
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Chris Hoadley
He played it for me.
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Brian Green
Now I contacted Henry and I said, wow, dude, really fucking good. Can I play this on the commercial break? And he said, have at it. I'd love that. You know, if you guys want to play it and get it some attention, that'd be great. So let's do this. Let's take a break, and when we get back, I'll play Loose for you, the live version version of Loose, and hopefully you enjoy it. All right, we'll be back. You'll make this rather snappy, won't you? I have some very heavy thinking to do before 10 o'.
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Listener/Caller
Clock.
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Rachel
Hi, cats and kittens. Rachel here. Do you ever get the urge to speak endlessly into the void like Brian? Well, I've got just the place for you to do that. 212-4333. TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Feel free to call and yell all you want Want tell Brian I need a race. Compliment Chrissy's innate ability to put up with all his shenanigans or tell us a little story. The juicier the better. By the way, we'd love to hear your voice because Lord knows we're done listening to ourselves. Also, give us a follow on your favorite socials at the commercial break on Insta TCB podcast on TikTok. And for those of you who like to watch. Oh, that came out wrong. We put all the episodes out on video, YouTube.com the commercial break, and tcbpodcast.com for all the info on the show, your free sticker, or just to see how pretty we look. Okay, I gotta go now. I've got a date with my dog. No, seriously, Axl needs food. Today is pork chop day.
- [41:54]
Brian Green
Okay, Henry hall, former guest of the commercial break on the Amazon Freevee show called Dinner with the Parents. So you can check that out if you want to, but I told Henry, I said, listen, you're also a talented actor, but you might have missed. You might. I'll be onto something with this music. And. And I've went and listened to some of the other songs that he has out there, and some of them are good. I think this is the best. This is my favorite one. This is like my personal favorite. But now listen to this song. I'm gonna play it probably in its entirety just so you get the vibe. This is him playing guitar also. So keep that in mind. There's only one guitar in this and it's him playing the guitar. And then maybe I will share the link on the show notes so you can watch it yourself. I don't want to put it on the YouTube video. Let's give him credit for the view. Okay, here we go. Let's see if I can. If I'm doing this right. Come on, come on, come on, come
- [42:44]
Listener/Caller
on, come on, come on, come on,
- [42:49]
Brian Green
come on, come on.
- [42:53]
Listener/Caller
I saw you in jeans name and to sing to me your parents I heard them, they said oh, he's a hooker. Don't you worry about them. You're still more than just my friend. And to prove it already call me that special name how you get to call me loose short for Lucy yeah,
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Brian Green
come on, come on, come on, come
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Listener/Caller
on Then we got on a train your ex boyfriend's new train he said big aged what's the problem, baby? I give all my passengers flowers don't you worry about him Y you're still more than just my friend oh yeah and to prove it already you call me the special name oh, you forget to call me loose, short for Lucy yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Henry, you are different than them well then how come
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Rachel
I.
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Listener/Caller
Should be calling me. Sam. Rain down? Don't you worry about it. You still fucking call this. And to prove it only call me that special name oh, you can't call me close ship
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Rachel
Nice.
- [46:32]
Brian Green
Really good. Yeah, I mean really fucking good. I'm trying to pin it a little bit.
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Host 1
Pixies.
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Brian Green
Ish. Maybe a little bit. A little. I don't know, it kind of reminds me of like late 90s alt rock a little bit. Kind of like that dissident. It's. It's melodic, it's got a groove to it. His voice is falsetto and incredible. And that guitar playing is like. It's a little dinosaur junior Ish. If I'm being honest, I loved it.
- [47:06]
Chris Hoadley
It is a really good song.
- [47:07]
Brian Green
I must have watched this thing 20 fucking times. One night like two in the morning, I woke up to go to the bathroom, and of course I bring my phone, you know. Cause I can't pee for five seconds without having my phone with me and all. It just pops up on my YouTube and I'm like, oh, what's that? Is that Henry? Oh, my God, look at Henry. Nice video. There's. And two hours later, I'm still playing it over and over again. And my kid was in the bed with me. And at one point he's like, dad, what's that song? And I'm like, don't you worry about it. This is the next Rolling Stones. Here, kid. Henry Hall. Look at that. He's so good. Henry Hall. Loose is the song. Go check it out. It's on YouTube. I'll put a link in the video. We are not being sponsored by this. I just honestly, really loved this song. And one of the things that Chrissy and I, I think, are both attached to in a lot of ways. And part of the reason why I believe our friendship has endured so long is our love of music. And good music at that. And if you don't like that song, you're crazy. Is good music. The problem with podcasts is because of the disparate nature of the RSS feed, the licensing. In order to play music that I don't pay royalties to, like our intro and our outro songs, the stuff we put in commercial, I license that music. And you'll notice that that's not a rusted root song. I'm not licensing rusted root songs because that's an immense amount of money. Those people deserve to get paid when you hear their songs, as do the artists for our intros and outros. And so we license it every season. We relicense it. But getting a license to play, like,
- [48:36]
Chris Hoadley
you know, ASCAP music, right, is expensive.
- [48:39]
Brian Green
And for the amount of downloads that we get and the amount of people that listen to us, all seven people, it would literally cost a dollar a person. And I don't make that back back. So we don't play copyright.
- [48:51]
Chris Hoadley
Otherwise we would. We would play a lot more music on here.
- [48:54]
Brian Green
It's the reason why the one place, the one niche, the one thing in the podcast universe, the podcast, podcast landscape that you will not find is a lot of music podcasts because they don't have the license to play it. And they'll get shut down real quick. Spotify won't allow it. You'll get. As a matter of fact, ASCAP and BMI are on a tear right now. They're on a tear because they're pissed at Spotify for allowing, you know, certain things to happen on the platform that they don't think. So what they're doing is they are trying to legally threaten individual podcasters for playing clips of copyrighted music. They're sending them cease and desists and fines and notices and all this for, like, a podcaster gets like 300 downloads and they're sending him these big threatening letters from big, threatening law firms. Kind of a shitty thing to do. But I get it. You got to protect the rights, right?
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah. On both sides.
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Brian Green
Just to be clear, I had permission from Henry to play that, and I imagine he's the rights holder on that song. At least I hope so. I hope I'll get a cease and assess from Henry's attorney. Henry's like, sure, play it. I'll send you the bill.
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Chris Hoadley
Go for it.
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Brian Green
Go for it. But one of the things I'd love to do in the future as we kind of negotiate these things with our network and stuff, is play you music that we like. So hopefully it can turn you on to something or just show you how terrible my taste in music is. One of the two 33p I could play all day long because ASCAP doesn't. ASCAP don't own no rights on that. No, sir Rebob. I never let ASCAP get their hands on my songwriting credit.
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Chris Hoadley
Stay true to yourself.
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Brian Green
I did. I never sold out. That's right. That's why I didn't play that Rolling Stone song while I was telling that story. You can find the video online.
- [50:48]
Chris Hoadley
I know. I want to watch that video now.
- [50:51]
Brian Green
I'll show it to you. I forgot the name of the song, but it's pretty easy to find because it's Mick Jagger dancing in a rain filled hotel.
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Chris Hoadley
I mean, I remember the video.
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Brian Green
Yeah, it was like their first video in years. I mean, years and years. And it was a famous director, too, which I didn't know at the time, but I've learned since that director is pretty famous also. All right, the 12 hours of TCB is almost upon us right around the corner just a few weeks from now. So do yourself a favor. Mark down on your calendar 12 episodes of the commercial break, including celebrity guests, all to raise awareness about mental health, including our own. And to celebrate five years of tcb, we'll be talking about the five years, the six seasons, some of the things that we have enjoyed, some of the. The things we haven't liked. We'll be taking phone calls, all kind of crazy stuff on that day, as well as showing you the recording process live on YouTube and probably Twitch. So stay tuned for that information Saturday, May 31, starting at 10:00am Eastern Standard Time. Because I do have to say that we probably have listeners outside of the eastern standard. 212-4333 TCB 212-433-3822. If you want to be America's next mediocre podcaster, let us know because we're going to run a contest. After the, after the 12 hours of TCB, we're going to run a contest. You can come on air, you can tell us all about it. And I've got some ideas around that. More information to come, but let us know. Put your name in the hat. Now. Literally tens of people have already contacted tens of people.
- [52:30]
Chris Hoadley
I mean, our reach is strong, strong, thick and long.
- [52:34]
Brian Green
What we lack in length and size, we make up for in girth. At the commercial break on Instagram TCB podcast on TikTok and YouTube.com thecommercial break for all the episodes on on video the same day they air here on the auto Go follow us on Instagram. Please do that. Please follow us on Instagram tcbpodcast.com All the audio, all the video and your free swag at the contact us button. I want my free sticker. Give us your address. We'll send you something. Merch drop May 31st, 12 hours of TCB. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for now.
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Chris Hoadley
I think so.
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Brian Green
I'll tell you that I love you. Best to you. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I will say we do say and we must say goodbye. Ra.