TCB Infomercial: Ari Shaffir

Summary

THE COMMERCIAL BREAK — TCB INFOMERCIAL: ARI SHAFFIR
Episode Air Date: February 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

Bryan Green and Krissy Hoadley welcome comedian, podcaster, and self-proclaimed world traveler Ari Shaffir to the TCB Infomercial Tuesday. The episode delivers TCB’s signature blend of improv-comedy and irreverent banter, focusing on Ari’s hit Netflix special America’s Sweetheart, his ongoing "Farewell Tour," wild adventures abroad, comedy’s podcast revolution, pop culture absurdities, and the current state of division in America. With sharp humor and an unexpectedly thoughtful tone, Ari dives into separating art from artists, travel as self-expansion, making space for humanity beyond conflict—and why the world could really use a hit of Molly.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Ari Shaffir’s Comedy Career, Podcast & Netflix Special

• Ari's Background:

  • In comedy for decades, one of the earliest comedians to embrace podcasting (since 2010). Regular on Rogan and Segura’s shows.
  • Host of You Be Trippin — a travel/comedy podcast with an inclusive, curiosity-driven perspective.

• New Special & Tour:

  • America’s Sweetheart now streaming on Netflix, lauded by hosts for its wit and insight.
  • “Farewell Tour” is underway, including a show in Atlanta. Ari hints at traveling extensively after this round of performances.

“He is really good at what he does. So Ari is here, we’re going to talk all about it.” — Bryan Green [04:06]

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2. Banter: Super Bowl, Bill Murray, and the Lost Art of Email

• Super Bowl Recap:

  • Brief, over-the-top mock sports banter (“one of the most uneventful Super Bowls in history” — Bryan [01:28]) quickly gives way to a rant about Bill Murray, media nostalgia, and Yahoo emails.

• Bill Murray’s Eccentricity:

  • The hosts attended a bizarre Bill Murray concert ("Bill Murray and The Blood Brothers"), segues into Murray’s infamous inaccessibility—only reachable via a quirky Yahoo email scheme.

“There’s no serious person in the world that still has a Yahoo email address, is there?” — Bryan Green [08:23]

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3. Welcome Ari Shafir: Nashville, Comedy Clubs, and Clean Comics

• Ari’s “Nash Vegas” experience: sticking to East Nashville, hanging with Nate Bargatze ("he’s so clean...I could never expose my audience") [14:23].
• Hosts, in awe of differences between Ari and other comics, praise his boundary-pushing but thoughtful material.

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4. Separating Art from the Artist & Pop Culture Provocations

• Discussion pivots to public controversies (Kanye, Michael Jackson, Bill Murray).

  • Ari jokes about the Kanye effect, public nudity stunts, and the news cycle’s obsession with provocation.

• Ari’s Core Take:

  • It’s important to judge art and not the chaotic artists behind it.
  • All the greatest creatives are a bit “looney tunes,” and without them, “There’s nothing else there.” [18:52]

Memorable Quote

“Sometimes it’s important to separate the art from the artist. I don’t follow Kanye on Twitter, I follow him on Spotify.” — Ari Shaffir [17:56, paraphrased by hosts + [19:14]]

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5. Comedy, Podcasting & The DIY Media Shift

• Ari details his early jump from restrictive radio to the uncensored world of podcasting.
  • Early days: explaining “what is a podcast” to confused guests [22:31].
  • Impact: revolutionized how comedians connect to audiences, build careers, and bypass traditional media gatekeepers.

“We all were like looking for a way away from radio... Suddenly something popped their heads up and comedians loved it. We drove right into it.” — Ari Shaffir [21:31]

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6. Global Comedy: Wild Adventures Abroad

• Travel as Comic Inspiration:
  • Ari recounts traveling the world for gigs, especially in spots where comedy is newly booming (Amsterdam, Berlin, Hong Kong, Iceland).
  • Shares anecdotes of ordering food in China (“I learned the words for ‘beef’... They were like, 'No. Bark, bark, bark.'” [26:49]), culture shock in places like East Timor/Myanmar, and his love for the uncomfortable.
  • Australia: “Biggest cokeheads in the world with the worst coke” [27:41].

Memorable Quote

“I like being uncomfortable...I like going to places where it’s kind of like I can’t communicate with anybody.” — Ari Shaffir [32:18]

• Berlin’s Wildness:
  • The ultimate party city (“fat naked people with just shoes and socks on...someone’s getting their dick sucked behind you” [34:40]).
  • Social progressiveness: identity and sexuality are “so far past” being topics of discussion. “What are you into? What kind of music do you like?” [33:16].
  • Advice for Spanish nude beaches: wear sunglasses, don’t stare.

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7. Division, Media, and Making Space for Humanity

• The “Tucker Carlson episode”:

  • Ari intentionally invites diverse guests (including controversial figures) to strip away divisiveness and focus on travel, shared curiosity, and humanity.
  • “Fight back against all this divisiveness by including everyone and taking them away from the thing that's being divisive...” — Ari Shaffir [40:55]

• Listener Backlash Insight:

  • Both Ari and his guest get hate mail from both ends: “We both got, like, thrown away by our audience for talking to each other. And then you get an occasional, like, really interesting stuff. Never seen this side of either of you." [45:35]

• **Hosts relate, sharing how even apolitical statements spark outrage; Ari’s advice: focus on what unites, not divides.

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8. Positive Outlook: Starfish Parable and “Focusing on the Good Stuff”

• Ari uses the starfish parable to argue for making a difference where you can, one interaction at a time.
• On changing perspective:
  • “Instead of going, 'Look at that Trump flag', go, ‘Wow, look at that deck they built on that house.’” [47:17]
  • “You change the way you look at things, the things you look at start to change.” — Bryan Green referencing Wayne Dyer [47:47]

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9. Psychedelics for Peace? Molly Diplomacy

• Ari’s gameplan: get world leaders (Biden and Trump) into a room, slip them some Molly, and “start liking each other.” [52:10]
• At the Daily Wire, Ari pressed: “Would the world be better if every single person had to do, have one psychedelic trip?” He insists yes—experiencing ego dissolution would breed more connection.

“Do you believe in God?... Who made mushrooms then?” — Ari [54:39]

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10. Ari’s REAL Farewell (And Encouragement to Live Before You’re Old!)

• Ari confirms the “farewell” isn’t for health reasons but a proactive choice to see the world, pack up his New York life, and “go down to one backpack.”
  • Wanted to travel while still healthy and “enjoy the fruits of my labor.” [57:01]

“Once you get over, like, two to three weeks gone...I don’t have an anchor anymore. Oh, I’m just floating.” — Ari [57:33]

• Hosts and Ari agree: Don’t wait for retirement to live fully.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “All artists are fucking luney tunes...Take your albums and throw them in the garbage, you will have nothing left.” — Brian Green [18:52]
• “Kanye’s a little crazy, but Black Skinhead slaps.”—Ari Shaffir [19:48]
• “He’s just saying stuff that gets people upset. It’s high school level.” — Ari on Kanye trolling [20:02]
• “Berlin is the best city...wildest party scene on earth. And nobody cares about anything negative.” — Ari [32:51]
• “You can’t judge [artists] for anything other than the thing they put out.” — Ari [18:44]
• “Would the world be better if every single person had one psychedelic trip?...Yes!!!” — Ari [54:39]
• “Instead of going, ‘Look at that Trump flag’, go, ‘Wow, look at that deck they built.’” — Ari [47:17]

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Episode Structure / Timestamps

• [00:00] Cold open / Barber sketch
• [01:28] Super Bowl banter & transition to guest intro
• [04:16] Bill Murray stories, nostalgia, email scams
• [13:37] Ari joins show — Nashville, comedy & travel
• [15:06] America’s Sweetheart, separating art from artist
• [21:31] The origins of podcasting, comedy’s new era
• [25:02] Global travel stories — food, drugs, wild adventures
• [33:16] Berlin’s progressive culture and party scene
• [38:22] You Be Trippin — best guests, inclusive ethos, Harlan Williams story
• [40:55] Tucker Carlson, division, and seeking connection instead of conflict
• [47:17] Focusing on positivity, starfish story
• [52:10] “Molly diplomacy”: Psychedelics could help world leaders
• [55:39] Why Ari’s “Farewell Tour” is real: plans to travel, live free
• [58:33] Hosts reflect on taking breaks, living fully

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Tone & Style

• Banter-heavy, sarcastic, and warm. Chaotic but genuine, with sharp comedic jabs and a recurring theme of self-reflection and inclusivity.
• Ari’s delivery mixes dry cynicism with heartfelt worldliness—he toggles smoothly from stories about “worst coke in Australia” to advocating empathy and open-mindedness in a divided America.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

• You’ll experience an unfiltered, laughter-packed, and sometimes surprisingly deep tour through comedy, the value of risk and discomfort, the necessity of judging art on its own merits, and why it pays to be curious and positive.
• You’ll get real travel tales, pop culture asides, a crash course in modern media, and permission to let loose and live before “the villages” claim you.
• And in case you need Ari’s parting wisdom: catch him live before he vanishes with one backpack, watch America’s Sweetheart, and maybe, just maybe, eat the mushroom.

Transcript

[Ari Shafir]

Here we go.

[Unknown Barber or Comedian]

You want me to start at the feet or you want me to start at the head? Because I'm really wanting to blister some of yalls haircuts. Amen. That's right. I mean, you're in an independent Baptist church and you got a King James Bible in your hand and you got a contemporary liberal hairdo. What in the world is wrong with you? Would you boys quit trying to look like the world? You ain't as cool as you think you are. You ain't as tough as you think you are. Or to get you a haircut that's high and tied over your ears and off your collar line and look like somebody that's been to the barbershop instead of a beauty salon. Amen. Glory to God.

[Ari Shafir]

On this episode of the commercial break, I learned the words for like, beef. And then I'm like, what? Beef? And then they point to a giant sign of like 30 different beef dishes and. Ah, all right, just guess.

[Brian Green]

Not the dog. Not the dog, please.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, I had dog once. I didn't have it, but I saw it on the menu once. It used to be, yeah, like, what is that? They told me. I was like, what's that word? And they were like, bark. Muk.

[Brian Green]

Bark.

[Ari Shafir]

And I was like, chicken. And they're like, no, no, bark, bark, bark. And I'm like, oh, that's all right. That's all right.

[Brian Green]

I'll pass on the mark.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. The next episode of the commercial break starts now.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Kristen Joy Hoad. Best to you, Chris. Brian, best to you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for joining us on a Tuesday after the super bowl, one of the most uneventful Super Bowls in history. I mean, eventful in. In the sense that it happened. And there were commercials, it was. Lamar was there, and so was Donald Trump and Taylor Swift. We'll get into all of that tomorrow in detail. But wow, what a blowout. The.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I mean, it was zero.

[Brian Green]

The Philadelphia Eagles manhand Patrick Mahomes. They did manhandled Mahomes, probably the best quarterback certainly of our, you know, in. In this time period. Shocking. It really was. I don't know the first fucking thing about football. And I was shocked, totally shocked. Entered the second quarter. I was like, well, this is over. I guess. I guess we're just going to all sit here and watch the Eagles. Absolutely. It looked like. It honestly looked like a high school team playing a flag football team. It was like unbelievable how the Eagles tore them apart in every aspect of the game. What are have like 100 yards of total offense or something like that? And I don't even know what that means, Chrissy. I don't even know what that means.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, going into halftime, it was like 23.

[Brian Green]

It was. Yeah, it was 23 to nothing and 30 to nothing within the third. Anyway, TCB infomercial Tuesday. You're not here to hear it. Listen to football. I know. And listen about football. I know that. If you're here to hear Brian talk about football, change the channel. Not going to do it. TCB Infomercial Tuesday with Ari Shafird. He is here with us. I'm so excited to talk to Ari. Ari is a noted comic who has many specials out there. He's been doing this for a very long time. A podcaster, longer than I guarantee you and I have even known what I've known about podcasts for a long time. I guarantee he was doing it long before we heard the word.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

He's been on the. On the bandwagon.

[Brian Green]

Yes, he has. 2015, I think is when he started his first podcast. He's made many appearances on many different podcasts, including the Rogan Show, Tom Segura's podcast, and then he's got his own podcast called you Be Trippin, which is very good.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I've listened to it.

[Brian Green]

I'm now in my fourth episode and I've really been enjoying it. I just listened to the one with Jim Gaffigan, which I thought was really good. Wait, did you listen, Harland?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I listened to.

[Brian Green]

Oh, you listen to the Harlan. You listen to Harlan Williams. Okay, well, we'll talk more about that with Ari. And now he's got his brand new Netflix special is out America's Sweetheart. This one is got me. That one had me rolling on the floor.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, it's really funny.

[Brian Green]

He is really good at what he does. So Ari is here. We're going to talk all about it. He's also got his farewell tour. I'd like to get to the bottom of that. Why is he faring? Well, I don't know.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

We're going to find out.

[Brian Green]

Will this be an Eagle, no pun intended. Will this be an Eagles type situation where Ari just says it's farewell and then he comes back seven or eight times? Or is this the nail in the coffin for Ari Shafir? We will find out, Chrissy. Yes, we will, because I will go right at him. I'm going to ask him the tough questions like why are you calling this the farewell tour? No. If you're looking for hard hitting interview styles where Brian talks over the guests the entire time. This is your place, my friends. This is your place. But before we get to that, I have one note. Chrissy and I last week went and saw Bill Murray and the Blood Brothers. The long time coming. I got these tickets for my brothers and for my father to go see Bill Murray, who the entire family just really enjoys Bill Murray. Yeah. And we're from Chicago. There's some connections there. So my dad has been kind of putting Bill Murray in front of us since we were little kids in the first Saturday, you know, Saturday night, early years of Saturday Night Live, all of his movie Caddyshack. Of course, we can go on and on. Stripes.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Stripes.

[Brian Green]

He was in Stripes, which is one of the funniest movies ever. That is Bill Murray at his zenith, in my opinion. Either that or what about Bob? It just depends on which style you like. You could go Lost in Translation. Oh, Groundhog Day. Oh, Groundhog Day.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

That's my favorite daddy shack.

[Brian Green]

A million other movies.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Ghostbusters.

[Brian Green]

Ghostbusters. Ghostbusters too. Every single Wes Anderson movie he's been in. Yes.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Love those.

[Brian Green]

Which was the one about the school. The kid in the school.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

They're the Royal Tenenbaum.

[Brian Green]

Royal Tenenbaums was fantastic. But there was the one about the school. Anyway, you get it. It's. He's been in a ton of those. So Chrissy and I went and saw Bill Murray and the Blood Brothers. Or as we found out, the Blood Brothers. Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot dot. With blue Bill Murray playing the tambourine. So.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

And the cowbell.

[Brian Green]

And the cowbell. And he's saying a few songs. We'll talk more about that later on this week also. But I thought there was an interesting little like through line there when last night I was watching the super bowl, the big game, as they call it, Chrissy down in the Big Easy, if you don't mind. And Bill Murray popped on for about 15 seconds and gave his email address. Yeah, bill himselfahoo.com. now I know I was getting tricked, but I had to go along with it. Anyway, you wanted to see. I had to take the chance that we might actually be emailing Bill Murray. That Bill might have spent four and a half million dollars just to have people email him so he could fuck around. Right. Because that's the kind of guy that Bill is. He doesn't have a cell phone, he doesn't have an agent. He only has a home phone that he never answers. Apparently in Charleston, the Chrissy and I have tried to dial a number of times.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

We did.

[Brian Green]

And an email address is like one of the only ways that you can get a script over to Bill. It's like there's story after story after story about how hard it is to try and get Bill Murray to be involved in anything. So I thought, who the fuck still has a Yahoo?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I know who.

[Brian Green]

No one. So clearly this is his real email address, because this is. This is the way Bill Murray would have done it. Fax machine and Yahoo email address. That's clearly what's got to be going on here.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

So I email that fucking email address, and what comes back is the strangest fucking story about him being a dog, seeing a dog in the mirror, and then he had to go to the vet to get checked out. It's like a really weird, convoluted, complicated marketing scheme, I guess is the best way to put it for Yahoo Mail. An effort to bring back Yahoo. It's not going to happen. We all have bad memories of our Yahoo accounts. We're not going back there. We all have bad memories of not being able to email, not understanding what email email is, and Nigerian email scammers. We all have a bad memory about trying to get $14 million out of South Africa. Okay? We all have it. Everyone's got that story because Yahoo. Put us in that position. And I'm sorry, Yahoo. I'm not going back. If I show up to a meeting, any meeting, even though I'm a dumb, mediocre comedy podcaster, if I was to show up to a meeting and say, yeah, my email address is Brian [e-mail], people would laugh me out of the room. There's no serious person in the world that still has a Yahoo email address, is there?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I don't think so.

[Brian Green]

No. Chrissy said no.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Even further back is aol.

[Brian Green]

Oh, don't even get me started on aol. I actually just emailed with a guy who had an AOL email address.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It's crazy.

[Brian Green]

I think AOL is still sending out those disks for free hours of Internet download now.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And then it would take you three hours to get the disk to load onto your computer. Yeah, listen, those. Those were the early pioneers of the Internet, but they just kind of mishandled the whole situation. Yahoo get bought by some. I don't know. I had a friend who worked for Yahoo for the longest time. He was like, he would make banner ads for Yahoo, sir, not for their clients. But for Yahoo. And he would make like, the tiles that would show up on the homepage. And he was really good at what he did. He was like a really good designer. And Yahoo paid him a dick shit of money to do this. Day after day, night after night. He would create them like five in a day. And Yahoo, apparently was a great company to work for. But somewhere along the way, Yahoo fell out of favor. And I don'. Know how that happened.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, they were a whole, like, homepage. You could get onto there and see all your news and weather and all of that and check your email.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

And then it. Yeah, we all migrated.

[Brian Green]

We all migrated to Google where now they just. I don't know, it just says Google on it. It doesn't give you any information. It just says Google. Yeah, but I. Yahoo was so embedded in, in my life that I remember feeling, you know, there's like, certain brands that you buddy up to. You really feel like, you know, you're. You're there. That's my brand. Yeah. Like Bud Light was my brand for a while. Right. I really liked Bud Light. I wouldn't drink anything else if I had the choice. I was a Bud Light guy. When I walked in and I saw that blue box, I knew that was mine and I. She knew I was hers and I knew she was mine. You know, that kind of thing. Yahoo, I had that same sentiment with for a while because, you know, Jam land [e-mail], By the way, your foray into. Was it music? Live music production? Yes. We would put on festivals and live EDM concerts at clubs, fashion shows, Grateful Dead shows, slash EDM concert. Hey, we're just a little bit ahead of our time with that one. But Jam land [e-mail] probably still out there somewhere, I would imagine. But I felt like some kinship with Yahoo because they were my, you know, email service provider. But I think once I got a BlackBerry, it just all turned to shit. I thought, I don't need that Yahoo anymore. But, you know, strange thing about Jam Land Productions, that name is actually still alive and kicking with the. I'm sure with Pete.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Oh, right, your guy.

[Brian Green]

With the dj. He's still putting on shows under the name Jam Land Productions. There you go.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

We must go check one out.

[Brian Green]

We must. You know who else is putting on shows? Ari Shafir is putting on shows. He's on tour. He's on his farewell tour. He's hitting a bunch of different cities, including Atlanta. So we'll have to have a conversation with him about that. We'll angle for free tickets. We'll see what happens. Ari is very popular. He's got many specials out there on YouTube. You can go to arishafir.com for all of the information. I will put links in the show notes. You can also check out his new special, America's Sweetheart, which is doing apparently well on Netflix. It pops up. I don't know if Netflix just like throws those things in front of me. It's probably an algorithm, right?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

You like this? Yeah. All right. They're fucking with me. Like the rest of the Internet is okay. All an algorithm anyway. You might have to go searching for it. But Ari Shafir has a new special called America's Sweetheart and it is very good. You should go watch it. We're going to talk to Ari about all of his comings and goings and maybe ask him about a few pop culture things and see what take his get his temperature. What do you think? Okay, we'll take a break. Chrissy, let's do this. Let's take a break. And then through the magic of telepodcasting, we're gonna have Ari right here in studio on that tv, live and in person in front of us. We get to ask all the questions. Are you every questions ready?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I'm down with it.

[Brian Green]

Okay, take notes. We'll take a break and we'll be back.

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[Brian Green]

Ari, thanks for so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Welcome.

[Ari Shafir]

Thanks, guys.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, you're in the beautiful city Of Nash? Vegas right now?

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. It's pretty rad. I got drunk yesterday.

[Brian Green]

You got what?

[Ari Shafir]

Drunk the night before. Drunk yesterday.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I lived there for five years. It's a fun city.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Where do you go when you're in Nashville? What's your favorite honky tonk to head out to?

[Ari Shafir]

I don't know. I've avoided Broadway this time. I'm in East Nashville for the first time, which is kind of cooler. Still some crime, still some hipsters. That's where the new gays are coming to try to take it back.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, it's got a little grit to it.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. You're doing it.

[Brian Green]

You're doing a number of shows in Vegas, huh? I mean, in Nashville, huh?

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, I got five. They're all great. Club rules. It's a really cool place. Yeah. I get to hang out with Nate yesterday and his wife.

[Brian Green]

But you weren't doing a show with Nate. Were you.

[Ari Shafir]

On the same market at all? He's so clean. We got along, but he's like, oh, I could never expose my audience. No, no.

[Brian Green]

Nate is clean as a whistle. When I watched his recent special, I talked about it here on the air. It was. It's. It's clean as a whistle. It's different. It's a different kind of comedy than I'm normally.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, me too.

[Brian Green]

But I thought he did an excellent job. He's really good at his craft, but so are you. America's Sweetheart is an excellent, excellent set of comedy. You did a really good job. I thought it was really funny. Congratulations on it.

[Ari Shafir]

Heck, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I'm just trying to get people to calm down a little bit.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I agree. I agree with something you said. I wanted to point this out because we were talking about Kanye the other day and his young lady running down the red carpet.

[Ari Shafir]

What a dress. First of all, listen, you don't have to wear a giant coat. If you wear anything underneath. You can just wear a T shirt and a hoodie that's make the same as a mink and a nothing.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, 100%. You're saying there is no sacred ground.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

All stock value.

[Brian Green]

Once your vag is out, then there's nothing else left to the imagination.

[Ari Shafir]

I mean, what. Why even. It's just news. Why have the thing we asked the same question for?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, but what is it? Push it. You know, what agenda is it push? Obviously you're there to get camera.

[Ari Shafir]

I know one thing is pushing.

[Brian Green]

About that. Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Not one person was like, ooh, gross body. They were all like. I mean, the canvas is great.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Excellent specimen. I guess I got people talking, right?

[Brian Green]

It did. That was the purpose. And that's what, you know, that's what Kanye does very well as he gets people talking. And I was telling Chrissy here, I said, this is the first time my wife has ever sent me a nude photograph of a woman that was not her. So mark the time, mark the place. She was like, did you see this? And I see it. I'm. I'm zooming in quadrant six. Gene zoom and hand for like 15 minutes. Rolling stone had the unedited photograph on their Instagram. And I'm sure everybody took a screenshot like I did. But now when Astrid looks at my phone and she sees a nude woman, I'll be like, you sent it to me.

[Ari Shafir]

So I don't got me started complaining. I didn't even know there were new women until you sent me that one. Now it's all I can think about. But yes, Kanye's music rules. That's what we should focus on.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Ari Shafir]

Like a loony.

[Brian Green]

That is the point that you made that I thought was pretty prescient. And we had this conversation in the studio a couple of weeks ago. We were kind of talking about how some of my children are now listening to Michael Jackson, because Michael Jackson is in some of these cartoon movies that he's got, like, he's got, you know, the bad Thriller and stuff like that. And I was like, I wonder if that's, you know, I wonder if I should have any feelings about that, but I really don't because sometimes it's important to separate the art from the artist. And you said something interesting. I'm not going to butcher your joke, but you said something interesting that. I don't follow Kanye on Twitter. I follow him on Spotify. And I think that was a. That was a really well done joke. That is a prescient point. Like all artists are fucking looney Tunes. We went and Looney lunatic tunes, Chris. All of them went last night and saw Bill Murray and his blood brothers, the band. So Bill Murray singing, playing drums and tambourine. Very poorly. I'm a cow bell.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Bill Murray, the comedian. Comic actor.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Comic actor. It was crazy.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

He's got like an eight piece band that he travels.

[Brian Green]

That he travels well. Let's be real about this.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It's the band.

[Brian Green]

It's the band with Bill Murray.

[Ari Shafir]

Yes. How was it?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It was actually entertaining.

[Brian Green]

It was actually. Ye.

[Ari Shafir]

Okay, I give it that.

[Brian Green]

I think that's a good way to put it. It was entertaining. I don't want to knock it because we had a ton of fun.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

We laughed a lot.

[Brian Green]

But, you know, this is a $5 cover band. Any. Anywhere else without Bill Murray. Like, this is the band that's banned at some, you know, cheap bar that, you know, bar that serves $5 drafts. That's what it is. But they were talented.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

No doubt they were talented. There was a lot of good saxophones.

[Ari Shafir]

I can't say that about Phil. I want to see it.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, You've got to.

[Brian Green]

You've got to.

[Ari Shafir]

But, yeah, they're all lunatics. You can't judge them for than the thing they put out.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Exactly.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I don't want my artists if they're not a little bit insane. Do you know what? I'm. Take away all the. All the people who've done shitty. All the artists who have done shitty, crazy things, and you go and take your. Your, I don't know, your Spotify playlist or your CDs or your albums or whatever. Go take them and throw them in the garbage, and you will have nothing left. There's nothing else there. So, yeah, Kanye's a little crazy, but he's.

[Ari Shafir]

There's nothing else there. You take heroin out of the arts.

[Brian Green]

It's true. It's true. So tell me about the traveling.

[Ari Shafir]

I got more into. Into Kanye after all this, legitimately.

[Brian Green]

Did you?

[Ari Shafir]

As is my. As. Everything was coming up and I was like. And then my friends would send me like, hey, I know he's like, supposed to be like, hates Jews or whatever, but have you heard this one song? And I'm like, oh, my God, that's really good. How did I miss that one? Like, it helped me focus on his music. And I was like, oh, his music? I passed by it. This is amazing.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Black skinhead slaps.

[Brian Green]

Do you. Do you think while we're talking about Kanye, are you under the assumption. I am. That he's just trolling everybody? That that's just like a master troll?

[Ari Shafir]

Yes, 100%. I mean, I am a troll, so I can recognize it. He's just saying stuff that gets people upset. And it's also like, some of. It's like high school level.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Right.

[Ari Shafir]

Hitler had some good ideas. Like, we were saying that in fifth grade in a Jewish school just to, like, tweak at each other.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Right.

[Ari Shafir]

It's like, right, right, right. Yeah. It's just the easiest way to say something little. Piss people off because, you know, the Volkswagen was cool. Yeah. Take that away from them 100%.

[Brian Green]

Something came out. Something Came out of it.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. Listen, the mustache never caught up, so that was a failure.

[Brian Green]

It's true. I think it's illegal in some parts of the world to have that mustache actually. Isn't it in Germany, I think.

[Ari Shafir]

Really?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I think, I think frowned upon. I think frowned upon. Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Germans got super. I do know for a fact that you cannot have the name Adolf anywhere in Germany. That's like, that's a name that you cannot put on a birth certificate. Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Really? Yeah. They ruined it.

[Brian Green]

He did. There's no more bad egg.

[Ari Shafir]

One bad egg, one super bad egg. Yeah. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

What's going to happen to all the Donald's out there of 150 years for an hour? The Joes? What are we going to do, Chrissy, when we can't name our kids Donald or Joe anymore? Yeah, you have, you have an excellent podcast called you Be Trippin. It's. It's really good. What gave you the premise? You've actually, I have to say this, Ari, you've been doing podcasting a lot longer than people have known about podcasting. Weren't you on Rogan's episode number two or three or something?

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. Pretty early on we all were like looking for a way away from radio. We can't cuss. And we had to wake up at 6am to do it. Yeah, it sucked. It always sucked. You get some dumb local. Local dj didn't know anything. It was just kind of like, oh, what are we doing here? We came and cursed. Yeah. And so then it was like, I wish there was a way to do this in the afternoon. And then with cussing and. But nothing was there. And then suddenly something popped their heads up and comedians loved it. We drove right into it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's. It certainly has become a vehicle that.

[Ari Shafir]

They haven't do it for like 15 years. It's. It's crazy how long it's been around at this point.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's been around for 15 years. When did you do your first podcast? Like 2010, right?

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, I was on Rogan's pretty early then. Then like probably a year later I started my old one that I stopped. But like. Yeah, I did that for like 10 or 12 years. And now this new one, it's just, it's just like. Yeah, it's become part of the landscape now. It's pretty wild.

[Brian Green]

It really has. I think that if you're a comedian, an entertainer, I mean, it's like, it's stamp. It's just a thing you have to do. It's a rubber stamp. You have to get.

[Ari Shafir]

People didn't even know what they were. No. I would ask people to be a guest on my podcast. Like, what is that? It's like an Internet radio thing. It won't be live. Just to explain the whole format. Yeah, like how. Like, I. That's not what I want to get into. When you come over and let me talk to you.

[Brian Green]

When we did our first podcast, and we would. I mean, this is five or six years ago.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

From radio.

[Brian Green]

We come from radio. We were. We worked in radio back in the. At the tail end of the demise of what was radio.

[Ari Shafir]

You brought it down. You killed it.

[Brian Green]

That's true. Luckily, we weren't on air. We were on the business side of.

[Ari Shafir]

Things.

[Brian Green]

So it was even shittier on the sales side than it was on the side. You thought the guys were buffoons. You should have seen some of the people we work with. I mean, used car sales. Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

That must have been great. Local radio. And the people that came at you guys.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Oh, yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Wow.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It was entertaining.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. You're, like, going to a dry cleaner and begging them to spend $1,000 on two spots that are clearly. Or, you know, might bring them some business. But you have to, like, be convinced that this is it and knowing damn well that every other radio station in town is. Every other person has come to them. Yeah. We used to hear stories that in radio, when we got into. This is like 2005, 2006. So right when podcasting was coming online, Clear. We worked for Clear Channel, and I. What is now iHeartRadio, they didn't even have an app yet, like, it was coming online. We were starting. So we used to hear stories about the heyday back in the 90s, where they would have a margarita machine next to the fax machine next to the cocaine next to the cocaine, and the fax machine would just ring all day. People just sending an order. Tens of thousands of dollars worth of radio. Because that was kind of the only game in town. You were either doing TV or radio, and TV was prohibitively expensive, so. But by the time we got there.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

That wasn't the case.

[Brian Green]

Things were a little bit different.

[Ari Shafir]

They're just talking about what it used to be. That's when I started comedy. They kept talking about the 80s. Like, it was great. There were lines around the block. We were talking in a room that was supposed to have a show, but no one showed up in, like, wow. Sounds amazing.

[Brian Green]

Yes. Sounds great. Congratulations on you. That sounds good for you. But I think comedy right now is kind of seeing a Renaissance. It has.

[Ari Shafir]

Oh, yeah, it's great. It's great. Everybody's talking about it. Yeah. The podcast and the comedy, it's so popular around the world. In Amsterdam, every local show is packed.

[Brian Green]

Really?

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. In Berlin, there's mobs. Every show.

[Brian Green]

Do you yourself do a lot of traveling for the. For comedy? I mean, besides here, like, the continental United States, do you do.

[Ari Shafir]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I do. So it's. Comedy is really pretty cool. Is. Even when you're just beginning, there's this occasional, like, free trip to a wild place.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Me and my friend Paul Morrissey, we got. We got. We did this comedy festival in Montreux, Switzerland, in, like, 2009 or 10.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Free trip out there. They room and board. We had them fly us back from Amsterdam. So then we're like, let's take the train to Amsterdam after that. And we just kind of made a deal with each other. Like, let's keep doing these.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Right.

[Ari Shafir]

I got flown to Hong Kong and Shanghai, Iceland, and these are all times where I could not afford these trips.

[Brian Green]

For sure.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

You're like.

[Ari Shafir]

And then you're out there. Yeah. And then there's somebody there telling you, like, I got the hotel for you where it's so scary. It's kind of like pre. Like, easy Internet.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

And everything's so friendly. Oh, I got a hotel for you. I'll pick you up from the airport. And then they just tell you some details. Like, in Shanghai, like, hey, it's really safe here. The punishments for violent crime are wild. Yeah. An embarrassment thing in this culture. So, like, no one's, like, drunk women will fall asleep with their phone in their hand and wake up with their phone in their hand. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

It's crazy. Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

So once they told me that, I was like, oh, I'm free. And I would just, like, wander out into, like, place I couldn't communicate. I learned the words for, like, beef. And then I'm like, what beef? And then they point to a giant sign of, like, 30 different beef dishes. And I'm like, ah. All right, just guess.

[Brian Green]

Not the dog. Not the dog, please.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, I had dog once. I didn't have it, but I saw it on the menu once. It needs to be more. I was like, yeah. Like, what is that? They told me. I was like, what's that word? And they were like. And I was like, chicken.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

And they're like, no, no. Bark, bark, bark, bark. Oh, that's all right.

[Brian Green]

That's all right. Yeah, I'll pass on the bark.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, it was like room temperature. You could tell it wasn't even fresh. It's like, this isn't going to be the time that I start with dog. You know, the same like, would you ever try human meat? And you're always like, well, okay, what did they do? They had to have done something wrong. And then also like, how's it prepared? Fine chef or just lying around? Am I eating raw? Like alive, you know, but yes, flow me all over. So it's like really great. And now, like now I like book gigs, you know, even though I can't afford. But it's like trips through Europe. I did one tour in Greece and then stayed for like a week.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Oh, yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Matched up Australian tour with this like rugby match.

[Brian Green]

How did you like Australia?

[Ari Shafir]

I love Australia. They're the biggest cokeheads in the world. They're the biggest cokeheads and with the worst coke. So. Oh, if you meet in Australia, outside of Australia, they're like, the coke is great here and it's so cheap.

[Brian Green]

You're like, oh, it's not. Well, yeah, they don't grow it naturally. Everything there has got to be imported. Right. So it's. That's probably why some of the worst cocaine and it's so far away from anything.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Where are they getting the cocaine? It's certainly coming from South America, China probably, I would imagine.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, maybe. Where does Europe get their cocaine from?

[Brian Green]

Africa.

[Ari Shafir]

Oh, really?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I think they, they ship it over and they run it through Africa. There's like we went to Sevilla, Spain, for a wedding, which is like near the Cape. So it's, you know, you could take a boat over to Africa. And one of the guys was telling me that this, that Sevilla, while the beautiful and pretty tame town in general, is known to have a lot of drug running through it. Like people will take over those boats, you know, those ferries on the water. Yeah. Because it's on the water. And they'll. Then they'll run drugs up into.

[Ari Shafir]

Wow.

[Brian Green]

Into Spain.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, On a ferry.

[Brian Green]

On a ferry. And. And Great Britain's appetite for cocaine has grown exponentially. So there's a lot of drug running that goes around that goes on through Spain so that they can get it up to Europe. I know all about the cocaine and don't ask me why.

[Ari Shafir]

The Brits love their powder.

[Brian Green]

I spent 10 years of my life staring at myself in a mirror on the table. I was doing some self reflection. I'll be here all week.

[Ari Shafir]

This is everybody like, do you want, like, do you like coke? No, I don't like it at all. Why, do you have some. Right.

[Brian Green]

Hey, man, that guy over there, he's a cokehead. Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Really?

[Brian Green]

I'm gonna go. I'll go talk to him.

[Ari Shafir]

I'll tell him to beat it. I'll go talk to him. Probably get out of here.

[Brian Green]

I'll talk to him. I'll be back in two to three hours. We're gonna go to the bathroom together.

[Ari Shafir]

You didn't know what cocaine was. And you're like, yeah. Why is everyone's bladder so small? Everyone just keeps getting up. Yeah. Before you know what?

[Brian Green]

It was only parties I went to for a long time.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Right?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I was a manager at a bar. And you would. It was just clear as day if you knew what to look for. And I did. Because it takes one to know one, right? If you knew what to look for, you would know. And then, of course, you always had the local dealer. You know, the guy sits at the bar, that sits at the bar. And you just keep of keep them in check a little bit. You're like, hey, don't be so obvious about it, you know, because it's for business. Yeah. Be less obvious about your cocaine. It was, we. We talked to Steve O. It was like our. A couple, I don't know, a year, year and a half ago. And Steve was telling us that when he was getting high, he had a night with Mike Tyson where they did two. Eight balls of cocaine. They sat in a Las Vegas bathroom for four hours doing that. Eight balls of cocaine. Him and Mike Tyson, he told this story. And for like five minutes, I didn't say a word. My jaw was on the floor. I was like, think about being in a room, coked up with a certified killer. A small room. And I know Mike, you know, he seems now like a very self reflective, smart, you know, empathetic human being. But there was a time.

[Ari Shafir]

This is coke, Mike.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

It's not. It's not. Mushroom, Mike. Mushroom Mike is nice. Oak Mike is a problem.

[Brian Green]

Tell me, what's your favorite place to visit? Is like all the places you've been, what is your favorite?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I've always wanted to go to Iceland. How was that?

[Ari Shafir]

Iceland is gorgeous.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It looks beautiful.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. And then I have a friend who started the Icelandic comedy scene, also named Ari. And so he was like, let's do a little tour. I'll like, leave my family for a couple days. And he'd show me the north. And he knew all the little secret spots. He's like, over Sheep Meadow here. I think there's like a fissure. I remember this when I was a kid and we found a rope, he just climbed down. It's just a hot spring, like a natural hot spring. And this fissure.

[Brian Green]

Oh my God.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. Like no one's there. You're just there swimming around and like in this hot water, like swimming, not just soaking in it for like two hours and no one's. No one's there.

[Brian Green]

Wow.

[Ari Shafir]

It's so, it's. It's just so out there.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

I still rules. And the chicks are so hot. Yeah. Yeah. They all look exactly the same.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. They're all blonde and six feet tall. Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

And then forward thinking, you're like, can I buy you a drink? Like, why all over Scandinavia and Iceland, they're like, why? What do you mean? Why would you buy me a drink?

[Brian Green]

Oh, really?

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, they're so equal there. It's like, it's foreign.

[Brian Green]

Hey, that's incredible. So is Iceland one of the favorite places that you've been?

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, I like going to places where like, it's kind of like I can't like communicate with anybody or I can't like. Yeah, exactly. Or I can't even like talk to home. But it's like too far out. Where I'm really, really lost.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Going through like Southeast Asia, through like Myanmar and East Timor and Indonesia and. And South America too, where I'm like, it's just real rural. Yeah. You just have to like, try to get some of the language where you can like just order some food.

[Brian Green]

You like a challenge. You like to travel or. It's a bit of a challenge.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

New experience.

[Ari Shafir]

I like being uncomfortable. Yeah. And then Berlin also is great for drugs. Berlin is the best. Berlin is the best city.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I have heard.

[Brian Green]

I've heard Berlin is like the wildest party scene on earth.

[Ari Shafir]

Wild and. And nobody cares about anything negative. They only care about the positive. So there's. There's no more like bitching about. Like, well, I raised this way and was hard. They're all past that. Like, what are you into now?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Nice.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, so I saw somebody that was like, when I was there last time, there's something new to Berlin. And they were like, well, I'm non binary and all these like trans chicks. Like, oh, no one's talking about that shit anymore. Like, they were like, grow up. Yeah, we're all so far past that. And there was like, what are you into? What kind of music do you like? Yeah, we're not talking about that dumb shit anymore. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's like here in this country going, I'm gay. People like, yeah, who cares? 1987, nobody gay anymore.

[Brian Green]

I love that.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. And the drugs are crazy. And you just, you're walking on the street and you hear like music and you're looking at like the side of a building and you're like, what? And you're like, oh, maybe that's a door. And you kind of push it and there's a guy. They're going, five euros. Okay. And then you just go in there and then there's like some like industrial warehouse. Yeah. Dancing with like, oh, I loved it. Fun.

[Brian Green]

That's incredible. I like, I like sometimes watching videos about the Berlin club scene because it's just wild. It's like literally an old steel factory. Fifteen football fields large. Not a space in between the human beings. There's 10,000 people in there and they're all just fucked up and getting down. And it's. It feels, even when you're watching the videos, it feels liberating.

[Ari Shafir]

You're like, oh, wow, it's so cool, dude. I've seen like fat naked people with just shoes and socks on, like jumping up and down, dancing. I was like self conscious about dancing. Then I'm like, oh, I'm fine as a kid. Yeah, there's that and there's a supermodel over there. You're like, this is nutty.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

And then someone's getting their dick sucked behind you and you're like, what?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Oh, there's a big, like sex club.

[Brian Green]

There's a big sex club scene there too, huh?

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. But even the non sex clubs are like, wow, you can just a little.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Just do whatever.

[Brian Green]

Did you?

[Ari Shafir]

A little? Yeah. I've had like two hours into this one. I just passed some. Some lady just on her knees just like going after this guy. And I'm like, two hours into this place, I'm like, yeah, whatever. I was just desensitized to it. I've seen hand disappear and bust.

[Brian Green]

Whoa.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. I've seen like, wait, where does that. Oh, but like, be cool. Be cool. Act like you've been here before. Yeah. So hard. I'm not cool.

[Brian Green]

Be cool.

[Ari Shafir]

He's trying to look out the side of your eyes like, why don't I have sunglasses on? I know better. Like that. Yes. Always sunglasses.

[Brian Green]

Yes. The first rule of nude beach, wear sunglasses. That's it.

[Ari Shafir]

It's your friends. Hard black. Black or silver sunglasses.

[Brian Green]

We go, we visit Spain a lot. And you know, Spain is also another liberated country. You walk on any of the Beaches there. And you're likely like, you're certainly going to see tits, if not the whole thing, because. And they don't care. There's like literally children, you know, right next to the nude women. It's just part of the culture. They don't give a. They're not hung up on the stuff.

[Ari Shafir]

We are. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

But I learned wear glasses, sunglasses. Yeah. Don't stare at anybody.

[Ari Shafir]

My favorite thing about Spain is the racism. Only against gypsies. Yeah, yeah. When we're like, gypsies, like, don't say that word in here.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Ari Shafir]

They're like very on the surface about it. They're not trying to hide it. Like, they suck. No gypsies allowed signs is a little bit weird.

[Brian Green]

But there, you know, there's like this separatist culture sometimes that goes on in Spain because there is a whole part, the Basque country in Spain that is a different universe and they speak a different version of, you know, they, they, in some parts, they speak a different language almost. I mean, it's a dialect, but it's almost a different language. But there's a separatist, like, Basque country is different than the rest of Spain and you need to be mindful sometimes about what you know, what you say and who you're with.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, it was cool. Everywhere in Barcelona, you see those like, Basque flags up.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Like the separatist flags up. And they're like, oh, they want out for sure.

[Brian Green]

Oh, they definitely want out.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, they're like fairly minority.

[Brian Green]

I, I like in Texas. Texas. Texas to America is what bass country is. Yes. So they believe they're a different country. Everybody says they're a different country. They don't sometimes follow by the same rules. But that's just, you know, there's just a long history in Spain of civilization, disobedience and unrest and stuff like that. The Spanish, I love how the Spanish Civil War was not too long ago.

[Ari Shafir]

Actually, other people in Texas, like, Texas is a republic, it's not a state. And we're like, off. Yeah. You can call yourself whatever you want. Yeah, yeah. And Iranians are Persian. Shut the up.

[Brian Green]

My brother in law just moved there and he comes back and he's like, Texas is great. You know, I'm like, dude, first of all, you're Venezuelan. Second of all, you just came from Venezuela. Don't act like that. Texas, don't act like, you know, Texas is a different country.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Texas pride.

[Brian Green]

I know he's. But he's got, he's been there for two weeks and all of a sudden he's you know, Texas needs to, you know, separate from the United. And I'm like, dude, come on, really, don't be like that. Get in the country first and then go from there. Who's, who's your favorite guest on UB Tripping and what was their. What like, what's the favorite story you've heard on UB Tripping so far?

[Ari Shafir]

Okay, we just had the trippy awards for the first year. I just think it's the first year of it. Yeah, yeah. The best, best guess, best trip is Harlan Williams. He took a back of a National Geographic. He was throwing one out, he saw it and he saw a little sign says would you like to go around the world for 30 grand? And it was 35 day around the world trip.

[Brian Green]

No way.

[Ari Shafir]

35 grand. 30 grand. And it was, you start in Los Angeles, you go west, you go to the Galapagos, you go to Easter island, you go to like Tibet. Go to all these places. They take you on tours, they take you on different things as you're there. The Taj Mahal. It was so nice.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Has their own travel plans.

[Ari Shafir]

It was so nice. It's private plane for 70 people and on the plane rides they'd have like experts that were in National Geographic talk to you about like the new coming place. It was such a wild show and he's so funny with it. So it's like.

[Brian Green]

It's funny.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, yeah. He showed me a picture of some guy at the Tajin hall picking his nose so far up, it's like his body, knuckles gone. He goes, I've never stopped thinking about this guy for 30 years. Where did his finger go? I thought maybe he had no finger, but he pulled it out. Came out so far and then.

[Brian Green]

Har.

[Ari Shafir]

But we've had some great ones. Joe List had one where he's trying to get a girlfriend back on the hike to Machu Picchu. He's like his ex girlfriend. He's like, do you want to go like. And she goes, just his friends. He goes, yeah, just his friends. Hangs up. He goes, getting her back, right? Yeah. And then she getting like terrible diarrhea on the way. He's just trying to like her while she's. That's been some good ones. That's a really good one.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. You've had some interesting guests on the show. Harlan Williams, by the way, has that Disney money. He's got that Puppy Dog Pals cash.

[Ari Shafir]

Puppy Dog Pals. What is that from? That's the name of the show.

[Brian Green]

You wouldn't know this unless you had young kids. Yeah. It's Puppy Dog Pals. He created it and he does the voices, or a few of the voices in this show called Puppy Dog Pals, which took over this, like, now it's Bluey. It's all about Bluey. But. But a cycle ago, it was all Puppy Dog Pals all the time. Yeah. And it was created by Harland, and I think he wrote a lot of the stories, so. And, you know, I. It was like Harlan Williams. You could hear the voice. You could un.

[Ari Shafir]

You.

[Brian Green]

You recognize the voice instantaneously.

[Ari Shafir]

The guy who drank piss and Dumb and Dumber. The guy who drank pee and Dumb and Dumber.

[Brian Green]

Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right.

[Ari Shafir]

It's so good at that.

[Brian Green]

You had Tucker Carlson on. I didn't listen to the episode, but that was an interesting get.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. What I'm trying to do is fight back against all this divisiveness by including everyone and taking them away from the thing that's being divisive and everyone. The response is a lot of like, how dare you? I'm done with you. And I'm like, I'm on your side. I'm making a guy who talks about something that makes you angry not talk about that thing.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

So all he did was we shared a love of travel. So I'm like, come in. We're not going to talk about politics at all. We're just going to talk about some fun place you've been. We shared. I met him once and I met him. He did some little mini documentary on. On stand up comedy. And so we all did, like, remote interviews. My publicist is like, if you do this, we will never work with you again. I'm like, that's nuts. I'm not getting into that game. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And so he just liked what I had to say where, like, stand up. Like, this is like, theory that stand up is hard. Now everyone's trying to come after us. I'm like, that's a little of that, but it's a great time. Yeah. Yeah. They burgas, you know, with the Atlanta Hawks play. It's going great.

[Brian Green]

It's. Everyone's doing fine.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. Yeah. So we liked it. And he's like, you know, I'd like to meet you. I'd like you to use my podcast. And I went up to his. I was in Maine for a family trip, and I was like, I'll come by and. And he goes, well, it's the day after the debate, the Biden and Trump debate, so we have to Talk about that. And I was like, brother, I don't care at all about politics. I understand that's your thing. If you talk about it, you'll be talking to a brick wall. I don't know anything about it. I don't care about it. It's boring to me. Me. And he goes, okay, then I'll wait till the next episode. Don't worry about it. And we just talked about other stuff. Talk about gospel music and all this. I don't know the Talmud. He was reading the Talmud. And I was like, yeah, it was. It was like fun. And then anyone who was like, I hate this, like, we'll read, watch it. It's pretty interesting. So on my podcast, they just talked about the UAE and the problems with it and the cool things we see in there.

[Brian Green]

I. I would fall victim to this. If I'm being real honest, if I'm being real self reflective, I would fall victim to this because I see the word Tucker Carlson and I feel a certain type of way. And then I'm like, okay, not gonna listen to that. I'm not gonna get. Let it get under my skin. Right. It doesn't make me discount the conversation. It doesn't make me discount you. It's just like, I just don't care for Tucker Carlson. But I. I do like what you're.

[Ari Shafir]

Saying, which is, yeah, he's a great traveler.

[Brian Green]

You know who we had on. I don't know if you've ever seen the guy, a Channel 5 news Andrew Cat. You don't watch political stuff, so. But there's a guy on YouTube named Andrew Callahan, and he made a documentary on HBO called this Place RA Rules. And then. So anyway, he's a kid. He's. And he's not a kid. He's in his 20s and he started.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Out as a kid.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he's got millions.

[Ari Shafir]

Is that all breaks, no gas?

[Brian Green]

No.

[Ari Shafir]

All gas, no breaks. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That guy rules.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. So we had him on last week, right? This show is not political. We try and like, we call it the commercial break. Take a break from all the. And so we very.

[Ari Shafir]

That's my whole special.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, there you go.

[Ari Shafir]

That's my whole special point. Great. I love it.

[Brian Green]

And your special is great. And it does. And it does do that particular ethos a lot of justice. But we had him on. And one of the reasons why I had him on, even though we don't talk about politics, because Andrew is saying we have to get to the reasons why people are so divisive and stop talking about and stop harping on the talking points that are making it so divisive. We're not getting anywhere with that. And so he put out a new documentary, does a really good job of kind of like, you know, uncovering why people are getting to this point and who they are as human beings. Because we're. They're your neighbors, they're your friends, everybody, you know, we can't go on forever just fucking at each other's throats. We have to. There has to be some conversation. You make an interesting point. Let's take him away from the thing that's making him divisive and just make him. There's humanity there. Let's talk about it. We have some shared interest. So congratulations. I like it.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, it's funny. Week to week, people go, I can't believe you're this left leaning, like, hippie. And now I can't believe this right leaning Nazi. It's like, I'm not doing anything. I'm just trying to talk to fun people about cool places they've been. I'm trying to make the world better and you guys are stuck in it. I think we're all at that point now where it's like, okay, we've all accepted. We're all, we gotta now go. So now what? Right? Yeah, we know they're spying on us for ads. We know they're doing all these things. So now what?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, how do we move forward?

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. And. And I try to think, like, we gotta focus on something good in every situation. So, like, Tucker Carlson is a good example. I get. When I went on his podcast, the comments were first, this guy's a heretic. He never read the New Testament, only the old. A lot of, like, Christian, because we were talking about the tall. But there was a lot of, I'm done with you now, Ari. After this. There was a lot, I'm done with you now, Tucker. After having this guy on, like, we both got, like thrown away by her audience from talking to each other. And it was like, you guys are like, wild. And then you get an occasional, like, really interesting stuff. Never seen the side of either of you.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, well, we, we didn't talk about politics for four, five years almost, right? And then we said the word. And then the election came and we felt that we. It was just like too big of a story to ignore. We had to say something, but we didn't bash anybody. We just said, you know, Trump's president, and even though he wasn't our choice, we wish. We hope that everything goes well and you would not believe that within a heartbeat we had reviews of people. We're not. I'm never listening to you again. You bash drunk Trump, and it's like, I didn't bash Trump. That's what I did. I just said that he wasn't my choice, but, yeah. So everyone's this riled up, like, it's. It's crazy.

[Ari Shafir]

I don't think you can change it. You want to change it. You can't change. I think you just gotta focus on yourself and just be like, you know the starfish thing.

[Brian Green]

No, what's that?

[Ari Shafir]

There's two guys walking on the beach and. Let's make it a guy and a girl so we can be inclusive today.

[Rachel (Voice of God)]

Okay.

[Ari Shafir]

It's a guy and a girl walking on the beach, and. And there's like a thousand starfish washed out up from the high tide. And they're like, oh, my God, they're all going to die, you know, because they're not in the water.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

And it was like, this is weird. And so then one guy picks up the. One of the starfish, and he, like, throws it back in the water, and then they kind of walk inside, and the girl's like, what's that going to do? That's not going to. It's not going to make a dent in all these starfish. Yeah. Dying. And he goes, what's going to matter for that one starfish?

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It's true.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, you're right.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. So it's like, you start focusing yourself when everyone's doing that. Just go, okay. How can I reach across an aisle? How can I just focus on something positive? I. I mean, it's like. It's kind of easy. It's a five days on vacation. One day rained.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

All right. I learned a new card game. When we're stuck inside. That's fun. Is all of Modest Mouse music. Is. Is this. It's just like, focusing on the positive part. And then your mental state is, like, pretty nice. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

There's this guy.

[Ari Shafir]

Instead of going, look at that Trump flag on that house. Go. Wow, look at that deck they built on that house.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, that's cool. Focus on something.

[Brian Green]

Oh, Ari's getting to me.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I know.

[Ari Shafir]

And then you start to, like, your mental state goes higher. It's better. You're just like. You're in a good mood. You know those people who are like, one's always happy, one's always upset, there's one cooler to be around.

[Rachel (Voice of God)]

Exactly.

[Brian Green]

You're right.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

You. You. You know the guy, Dr. Wayne Dyer? Passed away a couple of years ago. You see me on PBS all the time. Bald guy, you know, positivity.

[Ari Shafir]

Anyway, he called himself dire that he died.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he did. He had this saying. It said, when you, you change the way you look at things, the things you look at start to change. Right. And I think that's what you're saying, essentially, and focus on the things that are, that are good instead of the things that divide us. You're getting to me.

[Ari Shafir]

I had a friend who did this.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Just as much energy, I didn't expect.

[Brian Green]

To feel this way about this interview.

[Ari Shafir]

I had this friend who moved to Los Angeles and he goes, he goes, he hated it. And he said, everybody's like, how do you like la? He was there for a running job. He goes, I hate it. And they're like, what do you hate about it? Because there's no change of weather. It's. It's like burritos only everywhere. It's the people are annoying. And then every party people ask him, how do you like la? It gets sick of saying the same reasons. So he goes, it's just a dumb conversation. I hate la, but I want to say this every single party event.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

So we started saying like, I like it to have people just like, enough and we'll talk about it. And they go, what do you like about it? Because I don't know, there's no weather changes, you know, so it's good weather, good burritos. And then like after he started saying it, he said for like a couple months he started like liking ls.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah, it is true.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It happens.

[Brian Green]

There is, you know, so I don't want to get like too woo woo here on this, on this particular podcast. I'll do that in my own personal life. But at the end of the day, the metaphysical becomes the physical.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It does.

[Brian Green]

So if you are wishing the negative, if you are talking about it constantly, you're going to manifest and focus on those things. Things.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

It's not to say that you can just think yourself into being a millionaire. I don't believe that. But if you can't also, you can certainly think yourself out of being a millionaire. Do you know what I'm saying? You can certainly focus on the negative and stay, you know, stay depressed and.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Lazy enough.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. Sometimes the negative helps you. But it's like, look, I'm barely getting by, but I'm doing better than some third world countries. You focus on that and then you're like, I'm all right. Yeah, pretty good. I live in America. We have a lot of rights here. It's pretty cool.

[Brian Green]

Well, let me ask you this, Ari.

[Ari Shafir]

Because there's term limits. You don't like a president? We live in a country where there's term limits.

[Brian Green]

Well, we hope so.

[Ari Shafir]

Like.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Well, yeah, we have.

[Ari Shafir]

I was hooking up with this. This chicken college a long time ago when Trump won the first times. It was eight years ago. Yeah, well, we had a little fling in a festival, and then. So I asked her, she was in school in Florida, and I was like, how. What's. Like, what are college kids saying about. About Trump? Like, are you guys, like, real pissed? Cause that's, like, the bastion of, like, new liberals. Liberals, yeah, yeah. And she goes, you know, it's whatever. I'm like, what do you mean? She goes, he's going to be the president for four and eight years, but then he'll be gone. We also voted on legal weed, and that got passed, and so that's here forever. So we're all pretty happy about the election.

[Brian Green]

Fair enough.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. We got a guy who's in and out and legal weed for. For the rest of our lives. So it was like, she was like a one.

[Brian Green]

And I take this stance that, you know, in this country, at least we have the freedom to vote for who we want to, and no matter who is in office. And you're right, the pendulum swings.

[Ari Shafir]

You can make fun of them.

[Brian Green]

You can make fun of them.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And you can wish them well. You cannot like the things that they do. But you can also agree that when they do things that are.

[Ari Shafir]

Are.

[Brian Green]

Are good for you or that you agree with that, you should applaud those efforts, because that is the way that the country works. Actually, rooting for someone to fail is rooting for the. For. For negativity in general.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. Like, so, like, let's say I don't follow either side. I just. I gave up on it so long ago. It's like, they're all go. Aren't they all just gross? Didn't we all agree government is crooks?

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Ari Shafir]

People like, yeah, but they're the worst ones. And I'm like, just don't talk to them. Don't talk to. You're like, this guy murdered seven people. This guy only murdered two. Just go away from all of them. It's like, yeah, but. But it's like, it's a lot of these people, like, they hate Trump and they hated Biden. Like, if he came into the room and they'd be like, I'm leaving. Like, you wouldn't talk to him and say, like, hey, Indian park going Cuba.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

You wouldn't try to, like, have some influence?

[Brian Green]

Sure I would. I would.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

If Trump came in the room today, I would not leave. If Trump.

[Ari Shafir]

You'd have to say, hi. Be pleasant and not like, fuck you, bitch. It's like, great. You said your thing. You've got no change in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brian Green]

I agree. I agree with you 100%. We said this during the. During the campaign, and while this was not the platform for it, and. But if either of those candidates had said, you know, hey, I'll have a conversation with you, how could you at least not have that conversation? Right? How could you at least not want to talk to them and try and get inside of their heads or have a conversation that might be meaningful or maybe even lead to some change?

[Ari Shafir]

If you could get Biden and Trump or not, then Kamala and then Trump forgot Biden pulled out. But those are the last two presidents. So Biden and Trump in a room, and you're like, guys, let's talk. And then you could bring them both drinks. You know, like, let's sit down. Sprite. Sprite. And then 30 minutes in, go. Okay, guys, I have put Molly in both of your drinks, so should be hitting right about now. Too late. You're not going anywhere. So we're gonna start liking each other.

[Rachel (Voice of God)]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Settle in.

[Ari Shafir]

I'm gonna put some music on. If you feel like dancing, you can dance. Yeah. Biden, we got a walker for you. You're not gonna fall, guys. It's gonna be great. Yeah. Let me introduce you to big Frida, and we will get up and we will go.

[Brian Green]

We'll take him to a German sex club. We'll have them naked with socks on. If it's me, I'm bringing a Myowaska. If it's me, I'm bringing a Myowaska. I saw the most interesting real one time. This guy had made an AI. He had said, what if Trump did ayahuasca? He made an AI reel about the evolution of Trump. If Trump did ayahuasca, and it turned him into. It went through all these pictures and photographs as he went from, like, this stern, grumpy, you know, kind of vengeful guy into this loving, caring hippie where his hair grew out and he was shirtless in the jungle, and he was sitting there like this, going like that. And I thought to myself, it could fucking happen. It could fucking happen. If guy wants to do ayahuasca. Trump, if you want to do ayahuasca, I know a guy who knows a guy. I'm just saying we do it together.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

You know, a shaman.

[Ari Shafir]

I know we can get the entire government out there to do ayahuasca. Right?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

If we had the every. I mean, listen, ayahuasca is not to be toyed with. She is a fickle bitch. Right. But if those who are ready would do it.

[Ari Shafir]

It.

[Brian Green]

I think that we probably have a little bit.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

We could start with Molly.

[Brian Green]

We can start with Molly.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, I like starting with Molly.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, I was just. I went on the Daily Wire yesterday. Two days ago. Yeah. And. And they're. They're just as nuts as the. As the left wing, as the super hard, where they're just like. They have these talking points. They haven't really thought them out. They just have these talking points. It's cool to see because I live in a liberal kind of bubble, so I mostly only see the left wing ones, but it's funny to see the right ones. But one of the questions. They had this stupid game show, like, would the world be better if every single person had to do, have one psychedelic trip? And I was like, yes. And he was like, no. And I'm like, are you nuts? And I'm like, do you believe in God? And he goes, yeah. I'm like, who do they. Who made mushrooms?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Who made mushrooms?

[Ari Shafir]

I get it on acid. Who made mushrooms then?

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

That's crazy. I fought that so hard. I'm like, you don't think it'd be better if everyone just one time removed themselves from their ego? Just one time?

[Brian Green]

Totally, 1,000%. If everyone. The ego is driving us all up a wall, then we would. I think most of us would agree.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

And then we're all connected.

[Brian Green]

And then we're all connected.

[Ari Shafir]

Oh, yeah. You feel like the tendrils of humanity all in the soil, connected. Yeah. And he goes, I don't want to get addicted. I'm like, you're a door. Nobody gets addicted, okay? This isn't a 50s loser. We have more research now. You're not gonna do them again for a year. Shut up. Addicted to mushrooms. Get out of town. Oh, my God.

[Brian Green]

What a silly. What a silly thing to think. What a silly thing to think. Do some mushrooms. You'll understand. You're not doing that every Tuesday night, right? Hey, Ari, I wanted to ask you something. Are you taking a break?

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, I'm gonna go travel for a while.

[Brian Green]

Oh, are you? Okay, good.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, I'm gonna put. I'm gonna sell all my stuff and go down to one backpack and fantastic. Put a little bit stuff in storage. Get out of my apartment and just go travel. South America.

[Brian Green]

No shit.

[Ari Shafir]

Southeast Asia.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Are you. Do you live in Nashville or. Where do you live?

[Ari Shafir]

Live. No, I'm just here for the weekend.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Right.

[Ari Shafir]

For shows. I live in New York City.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

In New York.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah. So, yeah, I just wanted to take a follow here.

[Brian Green]

What prompted this? You're good. Like, there's no health issues. You're good. You're. This is just. I just want to take a break. Okay.

[Ari Shafir]

I finished a special. I did my. My job, but then I did a little tour. I'm in the middle of a little Tour. [e-mail] I'll be in Atlanta.

[Brian Green]

Oh, you're coming to Atlanta?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

We've gotta go.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, in March.

[Brian Green]

Oh, all right. We will be.

[Ari Shafir]

Let me know. I'll give you nice tickets if you want. Okay. Okay.

[Brian Green]

Yes, we will. I'll text you. You're texting my wife, so I'll text you back. I'm keep. I'm keeping it close.

[Ari Shafir]

Oh, no disrespect. I was just trying to rearrange the. Yeah. Hey, I just want to rearrange the meeting.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Have a lunch. I just want to go have a boozy lunch.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. We've been married so long, I don't care. Whatever.

[Ari Shafir]

But. But yeah, then I was like, I took care of work and I just want to see the world Nice.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

And you can still walk and, like, you have your health and that's important to be able to.

[Ari Shafir]

Oh, yeah. You see these people anchor. Why? You see all these old people with canes, and it's nice. They're still doing it. But, like, I've done this at 35.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah, definitely.

[Brian Green]

I. I agree with you. I think. And I think that you doing that indicates you have some level of, like, mental health, because so many people, including myself, will just work yourself into a frenzy and just keep on going and just keep on going. I'll put. I'll put it off. I'll do it next year. Blah, blah, blah. And even though I do do a lot of traveling, I can understand that it must be really difficult to take a pa Say, I'm actually going to take this year off and I'm just going to take care of myself. I'm going to do some traveling. I'm going to go and do what I want to do, enjoy the fruits of my labor.

[Ari Shafir]

Once you get over, like two to three weeks gone and you go to a second country that your anchor is not even from your old country, your Anchors in, like, I don't have an anchor anymore. You know, go from Myanmar to, like, Thailand. You're like, I'm not coming from America anymore. Coming from Myanmar. Yeah. Oh, I'm just floating.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I had a friend who just did that. She just got back from doing three years.

[Ari Shafir]

Wow.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I mean, she was able to work while she was, you know.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, that's the dream.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

She just went for three years, traveled the whole world. She was always different and, I mean, just the best experience. She's in New York. She actually just moved back to New York.

[Ari Shafir]

So, I mean, does anyone look at that lady's trip and go lame?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

No.

[Ari Shafir]

No no, not a single person.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

And yeah, and you know what?

[Brian Green]

You're gonna come back and probably create the best special you've created because you're gonna have perspective to work on it. Cut your teeth, converse, meeting people.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And you're gonna dry the market. You're gonna dry the re market out. There's gonna be no supply. You'll build up demand.

[Ari Shafir]

There you go. Exactly. Exactly. If you don't see me now, you're not gonna see me for quite a while.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, right. You gotta think about it that way, Ari. I re. This is conversation.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

We can talk forever.

[Brian Green]

We can talk forever. This is a conversation I didn't expect, actually, and I'm so glad that we had an opportunity to do it.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, I play a heel on mine, so. So, yeah, you talk to me.

[Brian Green]

It's like, oh, well, actually, I. I never. I never thought ill of you. I just was, you know, I was curious about some things. Like, oh, I wonder why. Yeah, Tucker Carlson. An interesting choice. But you watch your special and it's clear that you're on the team of common sense, humanity and being pragmatic about the way that you look at the world. And I can appreciate you said, hey, listen, I don't watch the news, haven't in a year. That's something I wish I could do. But I really appreciate your perspective and I've enjoyed this conversation.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah, that's good.

[Brian Green]

America's sweetheart is. Yeah, I will text you. We will be there for sure. Thank you very much for the offer. We'll take you up on it. I want to come see if I.

[Ari Shafir]

Can find some Molly for you. I will, but I'm just coming into town, so.

[Brian Green]

You're coming into town, so we'll take care of it.

[Ari Shafir]

Okay?

[Brian Green]

We'll take care of you. Okay.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

This is our turn.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

We both treat you. And when you wake up the next morning, we'll take you for some fantastic breakfast. Yes, if you can. If you can see straight. Listen, we just went to Bill Murray last night. Chrissy and I did. And. And we're lucky Chrissy showed up today. That's all I got to say.

[Ari Shafir]

Oh, really? Trying it on ice cream?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Why not?

[Brian Green]

Ari's brand new special, America's Sweetheart, is now streaming on the mega comedy platform, the Netflix. And he's also got his podcast, you Be Tripping, available on Apple Podcasts. Wherever you find your. Wherever you're listening to this podcast, you can check out his. It is a fascinating podcast. I've listened to a couple of episodes. I will now go listen to the Tucker episode. Permission granted. Tucker Carlson.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

You granted yourself.

[Brian Green]

I will hide in the corner and listen. I'm granting my.

[Ari Shafir]

And the Harlem one. Go to the Harlow one, too.

[Brian Green]

I'm gonna. Yeah, that's the one actually interested in listening to is the Harland one. Ari, we'll see you in a couple weeks. You are welcome back anytime, my friend. Thank you so much. And thanks. Thanks for your perspective. Appreciate it.

[Ari Shafir]

Thank you. Bye.

[Rachel (Voice of God)]

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[Brian Green]

Wow. Did not expect that conversation from Ari. And I'm sure am glad that we had him on because. Because I have a new level of fandom for Mr. Ari and I can't wait to see him. I. I hope that we get to go to the show here in Atlanta. I'm going to have Asher text him, so don't get too excited. If he gives us tickets, we're going to go. Maybe even if he doesn't give us tickets, then we'll. We'll go regardless.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

We're going no matter what.

[Rachel (Voice of God)]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

On the calendar.

[Brian Green]

I've never. I don't think I've ever seen comedy at the tabernacle.

[Ari Shafir]

Oh, you haven't?

[Brian Green]

No, I've never seen comedy at the tabernacle.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I saw Joe Rogan.

[Brian Green]

You saw Joe Rogan at the tabernacle? Really? Yeah. How long ago?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Years ago.

[Brian Green]

Really?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Ari Shafir]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And what did you think?

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It was funny.

[Brian Green]

It was. All right. There you go. Look at that. Chrissy's at the. Chrissy's at the Tabernacle.

[Ari Shafir]

Watching.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It's my part of town, you know, that is.

[Brian Green]

It was my part of town for a long time, too. But then you get kids and you go north. That's what happens. Everybody goes north when they have kids for understandable reasons. There's more land you got, you know, whatever. Anyway, I don't want to get into all the local politics here, but Ari was, I thought, a very fascinating character. Really funny. I'm so glad that we had a chance to have him on, and I hope he does come back. That could have been a conversation that went on for two hours, if I'm being honest. But we don't get that much time with guests. We're no Joe Rogan. Ari will spend four hours with Joe, but he won't spend one hour with us. Thanks, Ari. Appreciate it. I'm kidding, of course. All right, so all of Ari's information is going to be down in the show notes. I would certainly appreciate it if you go check out his new special, and I know he would, too. America's Sweetheart. His tickets to his farewell tour.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Did you know his Fair Ones called his farewell?

[Ari Shafir]

I did.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I just looked it up after we spoke.

[Brian Green]

I thought that was interesting that we just did a farewell episode a couple days ago, and now look at that.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Ar's here doing his.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Going on a big travel expedition, and I wish him. Good for him. Sounds fun.

[Brian Green]

When I saw that he was taking a break when I listened to his podcast, and then I kind of put two and two together called we be.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

You be tripping.

[Brian Green]

You be tripping. Yeah. When I saw that he was taking a break, I. The first thing that I thought was, oh, I hope there's no, like, health issues or anything like that. Hope he's not taking off because there's something that he needs to go do health wise, but by all indications, he's just going to. Going to do it. Soak it all up.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Enjoy life. And he's right. He's right about this. You should do that before you get to the villages, not after you get to the villages. Because there are so many times that I. That I'm traveling and with older people or I see older people.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

And they're not having the time of it that they could have had had they done this 30 years earlier. That's not. No knock on them. It's just like, he's right. I don't want to be that person. I would rather do it now, have the memories and then do what I can when I get older, then wish that I had done all of that and trying to do it as I get older. Ari Schaefer, very funny. All the information in the show notes, as it always is. Thank you very much for coming in, Ari. We certainly do appreciate it.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Arisha.com America's Sweetheart tickets on sale now and you be tripping. All of that shit. Go check it out. Also tune in this week as Chrissy and I delve more into our experience with Bill Murray and the Blood Brothers. And what an experience it was. Average age in the crowd, at least where we were standing.62.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

It was 62. I was in the bathroom and the woman was talking about her cataract.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Man, how things have changed.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Times have changed.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. You usually at most concerts, you go into the bathroom and you see people exchanging blow. Right. Yeah. You got a doobie? Can I hit that? I got any shrooms? You know this. These people were talking about their cataracts or doing the Trump dance. Yeah, well, I mean, Bill himself is 74 years old. He's no spring chicken, but he looked good out there. I do have to give it to him. He looked good out there. He went the whole. You know, he went full bore the whole time. More cowbell. Bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink. Well, you know, I don't want to down on. On Bill because I know he's doing his thing. But it's clear that what Bill did is he found a band that he really, really likes. And he said, I want to help you guys out a little bit.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

Let's go on to.

[Brian Green]

Let's go on tour. I'll sell the tickets. You guys take the cash. I'll be at the Ritz, you'll be at the Red Roof, and I'll take the private plane. You take the tour bus rented at U Haul. You guys do the load in, load out. I'll be there 15 minutes before the show starts. And, but, you know, hey, listen, I'm sure if I'm in the blood brothers, I'm not complaining one bit. I've been doing this all my life at, like, shitty little dive bars, and finally I'm selling out bigger venues. And it doesn't matter because now I get to hang out with Bill Murray. And I'm sure there are some stories to tell. Oh, to be backstage at the Bill Murray Show. All right, 212-4333. TCB 212-433-3822. Text us questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas, or leave us a voicemail and you can be on the next episode of the commercial break. Make it short, make it brief. Don't say your name if you don't want your name heard. TCB podcast.com all the audio video at the commercial break on Instagram and YouTube.com the commercial break, all the videos right there on the YouTube channel. I love you.

[Kristen Joy Hoad]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you and best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I will say, we do say, and we must say goodbye.