TCB Infomercial: Brian Moses

Summary

The Commercial Break – TCB Infomercial: Brian Moses

Release Date: July 30, 2024
Hosts: Brian Green (“B”), Chrissy (Kristen Joy Hoadley)
Guest: Brian Moses (comedian, creator & host of Roast Battle)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the wild roots, global expansion, and comedic mechanics of Roast Battle with its creator, Brian Moses. The hosts bring their signature irreverent banter to an in-depth and freewheeling conversation about the evolution of Roast Battles from a chaotic comedy club idea to an international league and TV phenomenon. Moses shares origin stories, behind-the-scenes tales from Comedy Central and the UK, and reflects on the unique equalizing power of roast comedy. The trio hatch plans for a future live podcast roast showdown, blending bro-esque camaraderie with sharp, tongue-in-cheek insight about the state of comedy, TV, and more.

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Key Topics & Timestamps

1. Welcome & The Surreality of Having Notable Comedy Guests

• [01:39] The hosts riff on the imposter syndrome of booking celebrated comedians, describing themselves as “nobodies on a shoe.”
• [02:38] Introduction to Brian Moses, his role as Roast Battle’s creator, and the concept of Roast Battle as a genre separate from standup.

“This one’s got my goat… We’ve all heard the roasts, we’ve all seen the Roast Battles. And this guy is the puppeteer behind a lot of the Roast Battles that have made note.” — Brian Green [02:19]

2. What is the Roast Battle & Moses’ Origin Story

• [09:00] Moses recounts how Roast Battle unexpectedly began as a Comedy Store open mic alternative, stemming from a potential slap boxing match between two comics who disliked each other.
• [13:22] Security cameras at the Comedy Store inadvertently forced the show into a verbal, not physical, battle, creating the format that became Roast Battle.

“The only reason that Rust Battle exists is because the comic store a week prior had put cameras up.” — Brian Moses [13:26]

3. How The League Works & Its Global Expansion

• [15:01] Moses explains the global league format, points system, and international club participation.

“There are so many factions of Roast Battle happening all around the world... So we said, ‘Let’s make this a league.’” — Brian Moses [15:09]

• Pat Barker is highlighted as the “LeBron James of Rose Battling” and key to running the league.

4. Inside the Art and Mechanics of Roasting

• [16:16] Moses and the hosts discuss what makes for great roasting: the interplay of joke writing, charisma, improv, and crowd-work, and how the genre blends all aspects of comedy craft.

“It’s a joke writing showcase... It really does incorporate a lot of elements, but really, at the end of the day, it’s just a joke writing showcase. It's just you and your subject writing about each other, and everything around you is kind of doing everything else in comedy.” — Brian Moses [16:16]

5. Writing for TV Roasts (Notably the Jonas Brothers Roast)

• [18:13] Moses shares candid stories of joke-writing for TV, like Sophie Turner specifically requesting the hardest jokes during the Jonas Brothers roast.

“Sophie was like, ‘Give me the hardest jokes you have. I'm trying to break my marriage up.’” — Brian Moses [18:48]
“Death by roast, Divorced by roast.” — Brian Green [19:25]

6. TV’s Changing Landscape & Streaming Predictions

• [28:24] The group reflects on the demise of classic TV in favor of streaming, Moses noting how “connected TV” and on-demand viewing are changing what “TV” means — and how traditional TV still performs well overseas.

“Connected TV... 32% of [young people] only watch connected TV. That means… almost 70% are not watching connected TV, they're only looking at the TV screen. And they only watch YouTube or things like YouTube.” — Brian Moses [31:23]

7. Showbiz Tales: Comedy Store, Helicopters, Stars, and Bunkers

• [24:23] Moses and the hosts swap stories about comedy condos, legendary comics, and wild times at the Comedy Store.
• [32:38] Candid, humorous asides about Russell Brand’s current “bunker” phase, and props for his off-the-cuff comedic intellect.

“That guy didn’t write anything, and everything he said was A-plus... This is why you're a superstar, because you're not writing anything down.” — Brian Moses [34:21]

8. Roast Battle Rules and Wildest Moments

• [35:40] The three golden rules: original material, no physical contact, and always hug it out post-battle.
• [36:18] Best “almost a fight” stories: beefs between comics and a moment the local news blamed a murder on Roast Battle.

"So somebody got… murdered. But because we were the only show going on at the time when the news showed up… it was because of us." — Brian Moses [38:11]

9. Funniest Roast Joke Ever Heard

• [40:13] Moses recalls a particularly brutal yet genius roast line:

“‘Joe is going to hell because there’s a stairway to heaven.’ [for a battler in a wheelchair]” — Brian Moses [40:38]

10. Roasting as the Great Equalizer

• [43:13] Roast Battle’s inclusiveness: able-bodied, disabled, LGBTQ+, all identities participate, and the communal power of laughter and shared “hits.”

“It is that great equalizer, in the sense of [that] anybody can get it. Everybody's accepted... We've had people with cerebral palsy, HIV positive, trans, black, yellow, brown, women — we've had everybody.” — Brian Moses [43:13]

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Plans for a Commercial Break Roast — The “Chrissy vs. Brian” Challenge

• [44:07] The main thread: The hosts and Moses agree to organize their own live roast at the Comedy Store or La Jolla, with professional writers and a friendly but fierce format.
• Chrissy gleefully assembles an “entourage” of Brian’s wife and their executive producer Christina to dig up dirt.
• The trio debate boundaries, consent, and the surprisingly therapeutic angle of roasting close friends.

“That’s what our show is, though. It’s about consent and boundaries. Your subject has to consent to the battle, and then they have to consent to the boundaries or things that you can or can't say.” — Brian Moses [44:43]

• Talk of a professional “panel of experts” to judge it; plans to tape and publish the showdown by year’s end.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Those who can’t roast, host.” — Brian Moses [20:10]
• “Why do third parties always get involved with beef? You see that at the bars a lot.” — Brian Green [37:54]
• On Comedy Central: “There’s no money. Yeah… When TV was a thing, right back in the last decade, it was great…” — Brian Moses [28:18]
• “Cable does really well [in the UK]… We were the highest rated television program in Comedy Central history overseas.” — Brian Moses [32:32]
• “How can we pass up the opportunity? I mean, it was a direct invite… He seemed excited.” — Chrissy [55:24]

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Tone & Dynamics

• Characteristic freewheeling, chummy TCB energy with tangents, mutual ribbing, and inside jokes.
• Brian Moses is relaxed, self-deprecating, candid, and quick-witted — matching the hosts’ pace.
• The trio balance comedy club war stories, serious reflection on comedy’s cultural role, and ambitious (possibly ill-advised) live show planning.
• Many asides about glory holes, old-school radio, and questionable La Jolla adventures.

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Conclusion & Takeaways

Brian Moses gives an insider’s look at the wild, totally unscripted rise of Roast Battle, illustrating its evolution from a midnight potluck open mic to a global comedic institution. The episode is packed with sharp, insightful, darkly funny banter about what makes great roasting work, why it’s uniquely inclusive, and what it reveals about human nature.

TCB’s hosts and Moses plot a future live roast, promising good-natured brutality and all the behind-the-scenes scheming their listeners crave. The challenge is accepted — stay tuned for the big showdown.

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Essential Links

• Roast Battle League & Weekly Shows: Roast Battle League on YouTube | roastbattleleague.com
• Brian Moses Live: Comedy Store, LA, every Tuesday
• The Commercial Break: tcbpodcast.com | Instagram @thecommercialbreak

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Key Segment Timestamps

• [02:19] — Roast Battle intro & Moses background
• [09:26] — Origin story of the first Roast Battle
• [15:01] — How the international league operates
• [18:48] — Jonas Brothers roast writing room stories
• [28:24] — TV & streaming industry talk
• [35:40] — Rules and wild incidents at Roast Battles
• [40:13] — Funniest roast line Moses has heard
• [44:07] — Plans for the Commercial Break Roast
• [54:55] — Final reflections, excitement for the upcoming roast

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For listeners new and old, this episode is a fast-paced, laughter-packed masterclass in roast culture, behind-the-scenes comedy, and long-form friendship chemistry — setting up what promises to be a truly “equal opportunity” on-stage roasting that will live on in TCB lore.

Transcript

[Brian Moses]

Cougars and chokers. Okay. All right. I gotta be honest. Cougar's not really into being choked. The young girls, though, ain't choking. Yeah. All that bare legal and up right before you get to 27 when you become a milf into it. Love being choked. Love ain't over 27. Don't me after I eat. And don't choke me because I have to go to work tomorrow.

[Brian Green]

On this episode of the commercial break.

[Chrissy]

Christina's gonna be part of my entourage.

[Brian Green]

Okay. She'd be part of your. I'm assuming my wife would prob. Be part of your entourage too.

[Brian Moses]

Yes. Yes.

[Brian Green]

You need some. You need the inside information.

[Chrissy]

Got the heavy limp dick.

[Brian Green]

How do they.

[Brian Moses]

How do they know that about you?

[Brian Green]

My wife?

[Brian Moses]

I was like, oh, the local glory hole's been talking.

[Brian Green]

That's right. Yes. I've got to practice one at my house. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Yeah, boy.

[Brian Moses]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

Guys and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is the spot. Bring her to my Wilcoast. Kristen Joy Odley. Best to you, Chris. Did you get that one?

[Chrissy]

I did.

[Brian Green]

You did.

[Promo Announcer]

All right.

[Brian Green]

Just checking in on you. Making sure. I'm just dropping, like, weird to my. This. To my dad.

[Chrissy]

To my dad.

[Brian Green]

That's. To my. That's. I'm bringing it back. I do it. I do it sporadically. To the Wilco Springer. To the Wilcos.

[Chrissy]

Wilcos.

[Brian Green]

Wilcos. Oh. Ah. Think that. Think that one through. Somebody will know. Text us in, let us know, and I'll. I'll send you something, like a handwritten note. Thank you. I'll just text you back.

[Brian Moses]

Thank you.

[Chrissy]

I get a personal response.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, you know, a personal response just. Just for you. All right, so it's Tuesday. We're super excited. We're always super excited to have a guest in here because quite frankly, we're nobody.

[Chrissy]

They're always fun.

[Brian Green]

They are always fun. We always find something interesting. 98% of the interviews that we have done have just gone off swimmingly. And we've really loved the personalities that we get to meet. And let's be real honest about it, Chrissy and I are nobodies on a shoe. And the fact that anybody with any relevance whatsoever decides to come in.

[Chrissy]

I know, it's kind of surreal sometimes when I'm looking at these people while we're doing the interviews, and it's like, what?

[Brian Green]

Way surreal. And now I've gotten to the point.

[Chrissy]

They'Re seeing us and talking to us.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, they're like, the people that we see, it's like two dimensional. They're not supposed to respond to us. They're supposed to be on a television or in a comedy club or whatever it happens to be. But this one's got my goat, because this one is a different. Well, let me put it this way. We've all heard the roasts. We've all seen the Roast Battles.

[Chrissy]

Yeah. You know what a roast is?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, It's a genre. It's a genre of comedy. I'm not going to. You're not that dumb. It's a roast, like Roast Battles. And this guy is the puppeteer behind a lot of the Roast Battles that have made note. I'm not talking about the Comedy Central Roast. I'm talking about the Roast Battles, like the one with Jeffrey Ross that was on Comedy Central for a while and now he's got a league. Brian Moses is a funny comedian slash writer who hosts at the Comedy Store in LA every Tuesday night, Roast Battles. And he's been doing it for, I think, 11 years. Yeah, I think I saw something about 11 years today, actually, as we're recording this. 11 years today. So we'll talk to him more about that. But now he's got an international Roast Battle League. So there are clubs all around the world that host Roast Battles. And then Brian.

[Chrissy]

In comedy clubs.

[Brian Green]

In comedy clubs. And then Brian and the commissioner of the Roast Battle League.

[Chrissy]

I love that there's a commissioner.

[Brian Green]

Yes, they will. They will break it down Afterwards on their YouTube channel, RBL. So if you could, if you go and look up Roast Battle League or rbl, you're going to find their channel. Go ahead and subscribe to. They show the roasts, then they break it down. It's kind of like they're doing a little comedy critiquing. Right. And I'm so kind of excited to dig into this version of comedy because we've talked to a lot of standup comics. We've talked to people who do really good standup comedy. We've talked to writers like Neil Brennan who have been a part of famous shows. We have talked to people who do really good crowd work, like Hannah Burner or Heather. We have had all of it. But Roast is not. The Roast Battles is not something we've touched on.

[Chrissy]

We haven't dipped in there, but now.

[Brian Green]

I know Brian is somehow. And we'll get to this. But intermingled with Kill Tony, which is the extraordinarily popular right now Roast Battle of all Roast. But not really a Roast Battle, if you've seen Kill Tony. You know what it is?

[Chrissy]

You had to tell me what it was.

[Brian Green]

Kill Tony is a right now very hot, very famous. Even though he's been doing this for a long time, he is selling out arenas. Kill Tony is a comedy show that's got live music. And then he brings up people from all different walks of life. Gay, straight, transgendered, able bodied, non able bodied, able minded, not able minded, all walks of life, anyone you can imagine. And if they want to be funny or they have an interesting story to tell, he gives them a couple of minutes to do that. And then his deus of professional comedians like Kyle Kanane's been on there. Like a lot of our comedian friends have been on this dais and Brian has too many times. He then they will give critiques and they will also roast each other back and forth. And it is funny. It is really even handed. It is sweet in some sense sometimes. And they have that guy, Ryan Adam comedy who comes up and he does Dr. Phil. He does the impression of Dr. Phil. My opinion, my impression is better. But we will go toe to toe sometime on that. Maybe, maybe we can battle each other as Dr. Phil.

[Chrissy]

Dr. Philoff.

[Brian Green]

A fill off. A fill your hole off or something like that.

[Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

But we would be. I would be blessed to have Ryan, who does. Has no idea who I am, decide to do a fill up.

[Chrissy]

Who knows, you never know. One day you might meet him.

[Brian Green]

Maybe we'll see how it all rolls out. But I'll say this. Brian is kind of the puppet master behind a lot of this stuff. And lead writer on the Roast Battle president. Yep. The Roast Battle creator.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah.

[Chrissy]

I want to ask how he came up, I mean, how this started.

[Brian Green]

Well, of course we need the origin story. It's been going on for 11 years. You know, it didn't. Maybe it happened on accident, but there's some kind of. Everything has a story. We have a story. Right. And I'm interested to hear that.

[Chrissy]

Our story.

[Brian Green]

We have a story. We felt drunk into each other at.

[Chrissy]

The Clear Channel hallway, became best friends.

[Brian Green]

You want more beer? Who needs this work bullshit?

[Chrissy]

Put it on your protection.

[Brian Green]

No one wants radio spots anyway. Let's go. So anyway, Brian is the puppeteer behind a lot of this and he was also one of the head writers on Roast Battles with Jeffrey Ross, which aired on Comedy Central, if you remember, for like three or four years. We'll ask him. And then they had a UK version also. But go to Roast Battle league, go on YouTube, go type in Roast Battle League and then subscribe to that channel and you'll get updates. As every week, the roasters around the world try and get one up each other by giving a good roast battle. And then they get points based on.

[Chrissy]

Let'S get it on.

[Brian Green]

Let's get it on.

[Promo Announcer]

Roast your roasts.

[Chrissy]

Drop the roast.

[Brian Green]

All right, so why don't we do this? Let's take a break, and then when we come back, we will have Brian Moses here with us and excited to do that. Are you good with that, Chrissy?

[Chrissy]

I am good with that. Let's do it.

[Brian Green]

Checking in during the awkward transition.

[Chrissy]

Feel it.

[Brian Green]

All right, we'll be back. Hi.

[Promo Announcer]

No, you're not dreaming. And yes, this is a new promo. See, I made you wait, and now look how happy you are. I know, I know. You're smiling. Anyway, since we're here, why don't you just hop on over to Instagram and give us a follow at the commercial break? Seriously, Please. It's getting hard for me to listen to Brian and Chrissy beg. So just follow us on Instagram again. That's at the commercial break. You can also follow us on TikTok@TCB podcast, and of course, you know where to go for all things TCB. That is tcbpodcast.com, baby. And of course, you can always text us or call us and leave us a voicemail at 212-4333, TCB. Yep, that phone number is no longer new, but it is still around, and that's a win. 212-4333, TCV. Love you. Bye.

[Brian Green]

Brian's here with us now. Brian, grateful for your time this morning.

[Brian Moses]

Hey, guys.

[Brian Green]

Hey. Congratulations on 11 years of the roast battle out there in LA last night. Happy birthday, glory holes.

[Brian Moses]

That's us, man. We are, yeah. Rose petals. A pre teen now. I think next year, Drake is going to slide into the roast battles. Dms hot take.

[Brian Green]

She's gonna start wearing roast.

[Chrissy]

Let's get it on.

[Brian Green]

Not for us. For 11 years, you have been doing this. So, Brian, for those of our audience who may not understand what the roast bat. I mean, everyone's seen a roast, obviously. It's been. It's a hugely popular comedy format. And tell us how this. How you got started, because you are the man behind the machine in some sense, or what I understand the Presidente.

[Brian Moses]

So about 11 years ago, literally to the day, I was running this open mic at the Comedy Store. I was a door guy there. I was working there. And then we had lost an open mic night. They call them potluck nights. So I Used to run two of them Sunday, Monday. I got rid of Sundays because they were losing so much money. They were like, we have to put real shows and real comedians on instead of. You idiot. So we're gonna bring all the real guys back on Sundays. And then, you know, I had just been starting out there for like two or three years, and I was like, oh, all my friends are gonna lose a day and I'm only gonna see them once a week kind of a thing. So I'm working here so much. And so then I started this mic on Tuesdays right around the time Kill Tony started on Mondays. Yeah. So me and Tony were both working. Tony actually trained me at the Comedy Store.

[Brian Green]

Really? I know you guys go way back, like, just from, you know, doing my research on. On you. I know that you and Kill Tony are intermingled in ways, but. So you guys started, like, at the same time you guys were doing legitimately.

[Brian Moses]

I think Tony starts six months before I do in Los Angeles. I start down in San Diego in La Jolla. And he would come down all the time, like, doing spots, opening up for, like, big name guys. Big name guys. I guess, like, it was what, Jeff Garland and Pauly Shore at the time. But.

[Brian Green]

There was a time when Pauly Shore was not the Weasel and would sell comedy clubs because I was. My very first comedy show was Paulie Shore and he really. He bummed a camel light off.

[Chrissy]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

Yes. It's a weird story. But anyway, go ahead. So you and Kill Tony are kind of doing back to back nights, and you lose a night, and then you're like, I have to find a different format so I can hang out with my friends.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah. It became a renaissance, really. It was. He just wanted to give. He had this thing. It was basically. It was Hinchcliffe's notes. That's what the original title was basically of Kill Tony, because he wanted to just, like, give notes to comics who were aspiring and, like, trying to do their thing, because he was the king of the open mic. You know, he's the king of the back of the room. That's. You had to Kill Tony if you want to go forward, you know, especially the Comedy Store. And then I didn't even really see Kill Tony too tough because I wasn't really trying to get an open mic scene anymore. I was, like, trying to get out of it or just, you know, leave my own open mic.

[Brian Green]

So I had your rent.

[Brian Moses]

Exactly. Yeah. Open mics don't pay anything. You know, those are free things. But, yeah. So then I started mine. And then, yeah, we had this thing at midnight where two guys who didn't like each other would want to just, like, kind of battle each other. And the origin of that is there was an employee there named Josh Martin in a new comic who was underage. You didn't know, named Kenny Lyon.

[Brian Green]

Oh.

[Brian Moses]

And Kenny was very annoying to Josh, and Josh is very annoying to everybody. So Josh is drun night. He comes in, he's like, hey, that kid on the stage, he's not even 21. He's got to go. And we're like, wait, what? He's been here for, like, six months. Oh, no, don't shut me down. Right? And then I was like. And then the kid said, he's like, Well, I turned 21 on Wednesday. He's like, and I'm gonna come back and beat your ass. And I was like, hold it. Wait till next Tuesday.

[Brian Green]

Do it on stage.

[Brian Moses]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Chrissy]

Wow.

[Brian Green]

Wow.

[Brian Moses]

I wanted them to slap box donut. That was the original rose battle. I was like, I wanted them to get on stage and slap box each other. Whoever wins. Yeah. That's what we're going to do every midnight.

[Brian Green]

We're going to Last man standing. Yeah.

[Brian Moses]

Holy shit. You couldn't have an actual fight club in a comedy club. Then we had to get, like, shut down for real. So.

[Chrissy]

Right.

[Brian Green]

Was Mitzi running the store at that time?

[Brian Moses]

No, no, no, Mitzi was. She was running it in spirit.

[Brian Green]

Oh, okay. She had passed away at that point.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, no, no, she was. She was still alive, just in spirit. She was running it. Yeah, yeah. Like Paulie and Peter and Sammy and Sandy. I think the kids are running into.

[Chrissy]

That point taken over.

[Brian Moses]

So. Yeah, she'd never seen it, but we had met before. She was. She's funny. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

By all accounts, a wonderful woman who helped a lot of people.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Especially in the 80s. Yeah, she was. I mean, I've never met her, but obviously she. She's in comedy history. She will go down legend. So these two slap box and then it, like. Does it just kind of, like, slowly start to take off? People are like.

[Brian Moses]

So they don't slap box. They don't slap box. They.

[Brian Green]

Oh, I'm sorry. They roast.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah. Because they. They just installed cameras. So crazy. In 2013, there was. Yeah, they installed, like, security cameras finally for the first time in the comics. And I was like. And that's the only reason that didn't happen. The only reason that we didn't slap box. The reason that Rust Battle exists is because the comic store a week prior had put cameras up. And I was like, why don't these guys? To see me fighting in here, I'm going to get. I'm going to get, like, banned.

[Brian Green]

You're like, wait a second, we could get sued. And what happened to all the coke dealers? Right?

[Brian Moses]

Right, yeah.

[Brian Green]

Where'd they go? Where did they go?

[Brian Moses]

So, yeah. So then basically I said, actually, you know what? Guys don't slap box. They just put cameras in this thing. How about this, you guys, we're comics. You guys talk shit, you know, talk shit to each other. Yeah. And then since it's like 50 of us in this room, we'll treat like a Roman Colosseum. And if it's good, we'll yay. And if it's bad, we'll nay. So that's how it really happened. And then those guys were so bad at it, literally there was like a line of comics who just emailed me or DM me at the time, were like, hey, I could do that. Could we just. I don't like this guy. Can I. Can I battle this guy? Me and my friend want to do this. Can we battle this guy? And that's how it happened. Every Tuesday since July 23, 2013, we've been roast Battling in the comedy.

[Chrissy]

That's incredible.

[Brian Green]

So that just kind of grows super organically. And now there are, for those who don't know, the Roast Battle League, and stop me if I'm wrong, has clubs, so to speak, all around the world. And those clubs fight to be the best Roast Battle of the week. Gathering points, and then there's some kind of championship, whoever. Do you guys have, like, a final, like, Roast. Roast Off?

[Brian Moses]

Oh, yeah. So this is the second season. So season one, yeah, I think, runs from, like, March 1 to November 1. It's like the baseball season.

[Chrissy]

It's crazy, right?

[Brian Moses]

But we get so much content, so we had to make it that long. We have. There were so many factions of Roast Battle happening all around the world. Instead of just being like, hey, you can't use it, we're just like, let's just brand it, you know, and if you're good, we'll put you in the league. And if, you know, if you're shitty, we'll just be like, ah, maybe next year kind of a thing. So there were. There was eight really good clubs we had seen initially last year, or 12, really. And then so we said, you know what? Let's make this a league. Like a league of just Roast battling. And so they would send their.

[Chrissy]

I know. Brilliant.

[Brian Green]

Brilliant. Yeah.

[Brian Moses]

It Was fun, man. Me and my boy Pat Barker, he's the. The lead commissioner. He's. I call him the LeBron James of Rose battling. He's just really good at it. He knows how to break it down. He can. He can run plays and roast. Battling.

[Brian Green]

He's got the teleprompter. He's going, look at this guy. Scared shitless. Not gonna. Not brains working overtime. He's really good. I've. I've watched. I now watch a number of episodes of. Of rbl. I really enjoy it because you guys break, literally break down the teams every week, and then you're. You're showing clips or sometimes entire battles, like the entire thing, you're showing it and then kind of breaking it down and saying, well, this is why it's good, this is why it's bad. This is why it's just fucking strange.

[Brian Moses]

Exactly. It's a joke writing. It's a joke writing showcase. So we get to really just kind of dissect joke writing. You know why joke writing works? Why? Why charisma can work sometimes over joke writing. Why joke writing can work over charisma. Right. How crowd work or interaction can work sometimes in a rose battle, how that might not work in a rose battle, how being awkward can work to your opponent, how it can create inertia, you know, and momentum. You know, there's. There's so many elements of it. That's why the rose battle is its own genre of the comedy. You know, I mean, some pillar in the comedy genre because it really does incorporate a lot of elements, but really, at the end of the day, it's just a joke writing showcase. It's just you and your subject writing about each other. And then everything around you is kind of doing everything else in comedy from stand up, setup or. Sorry, sorry, set up punch. You've got your. You've got improv happening, you've got prop comedy, you've got sound effects. There's all kinds of stuff happening around.

[Brian Green]

To some degree. It's crowd work. Not necessarily with the crowd, but you're working with another human being and reacting to what's going on in the moment. Yeah. And. And, you know, I think that roasting, when it's done beautifully is. You just laugh so hard. Like some of those roasts that you, everyone has seen on Comedy Central, whatever channel, you've been watching them, you know, some of those, when, when it hits, when someone's on a roll and they're hitting and the jokes are well crafted, it's really funny. I mean, it can be really. And brutal, but funny. Yeah. Do you do roasting? Do you get up there a lot too?

[Brian Moses]

I don't. I like the. The writing element of it. So we've had so many. So back in the 2000 and tens, back in the old days when I was a kid, back when TV was still a thing, back before glory holes. Those will never leave those, will they?

[Brian Green]

Bending that cats out of the bag. It's not going back in.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, no, we'll have AI glory holes. I'm excited about that.

[Brian Green]

Oh, it's coming. Sex, robot, space opera. Next big tentpole movie. I'm calling it.

[Brian Moses]

It's coming. And so am I. What was I saying? No, we're talking about joke, Right? Yeah. So really, it's just more about the joke writing for me. So. I've done a lot of writing on roasts. Right. Like the. I hate to say this, but that Jonas Brothers family roast, I wrote on that.

[Brian Green]

I saw that.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, the thing that broke up. Yeah. What's his name? Not Nick, the other one.

[Chrissy]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Joe and Sophie.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, yeah, Those Sophie jokes. Yeah, I wrote a lot of those Sophie jokes. Yeah. Because she was the only one that wanted anything, like, remotely hard.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brian Moses]

Everybody else kind of wanted to, like, kind of be safe, and Nick wanted to write his own jokes, but for the most part, Sophie was like, give me the hardest jokes you have. I'm trying to break my marriage up. Oh.

[Chrissy]

And then it worked.

[Brian Green]

Obviously she didn't. Did she say that?

[Brian Moses]

No, she didn't for anything. Yeah, that was. That was the joke we had in the writers room. Just like, oh, she doesn't like him. Like, they're not gonna be together very long if you. Nobody wanted. Yeah. Because it was like me and another guy were just like. It was just the darkest jokes and they were like, nobody's gonna take these. And then Sophie was like, what are these? I'll take those.

[Brian Green]

I love it.

[Chrissy]

That's amazing.

[Brian Green]

Death by roast, Divorced by roast.

[Chrissy]

Divorce by roast.

[Brian Green]

That is a checklist on the divorce paperwork. You know, people's like, irreconcilable differences.

[Chrissy]

You know, infidelity Roasted me too hard.

[Brian Green]

Roasted me too hard. All the truth in front of millions of people. I think Joe's doing okay for himself.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, he's fine. Yeah, everybody's seen his, you know, his. His middle sized penis on the Internet. So, yeah, we had to bring that up a lot. That was tough.

[Brian Green]

I love a good Joe roast because my wife loves him. So I. I roast Joe all the time on the show. But you know, if you want to. Come on. Oh.

[Brian Moses]

We'll talk. Okay, good. Glad I brought it up.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, you did. It's good you didn't know, but now you know.

[Brian Moses]

But, yeah, man. So, no, I don't. I don't get in the. In the ring a lot. Like, you know, a buddy of mine who used to be a rose battler Hormones. Rashida. Used to say, oh, yeah, those who can't roast, host. I'm hosting a lot and just kind of, like, doing some things off the cuff and. Yeah. I mean, for Roast Battle Season 1 through 3 on Comedy Central, back in 2016 through 2019, I was in the writers room. Roast Battle UK with Jimmy Carr, Russell Brand for four seasons. I was in the writers room for that. So writing the rose jokes are fun. Actually getting in there and feeling them. I don't want to know things about me that people think about me.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Brian Moses]

I'm not a gladiator like that.

[Chrissy]

You're the man behind the gladiators.

[Brian Green]

If you were a gladiator, you'd get an opportunity to, you know, pin the dick in the ass. But since you're not. Because that's where it all. That's where the glory hole started.

[Chrissy]

But for the listener that doesn't know why we're talking about glory holes, the.

[Brian Green]

Listener has no idea why we're talking about glory. We had a whole thing about glory holes beforehand. Brian who notoriously spends 90% of his time on the Internet ignoring his children. Brian with a Y. Brian with a.

[Brian Moses]

Y. Oh, that's gonna say Brian. Brian spends most of his time. 90% of his time at glory holes.

[Chrissy]

Yeah, I thought I should clarify.

[Brian Green]

I'm old. I couldn't spend 90% of my time. 7% of my.

[Chrissy]

Brian with a Y just watches documentaries about glory holes.

[Brian Green]

Yes. Something weird turns me on about a glory hole. I think the. I think the mystique is pretty obvious. Stick it in and see what comes.

[Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Literally.

[Brian Moses]

What?

[Brian Green]

Surprise.

[Brian Moses]

What's that phobia of, like, people who are, like, scared of holes?

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah. Yes, I know about this. I read about it one time. Some people are really, like, fearful of anything round. Like, round holes they hate. Right. Isn't that weird? People are fucked up. I think it's all the microplastics. I swear to God.

[Brian Moses]

I think when my.

[Brian Green]

My dad, you know, your dad, everybody's dad or mom or whatever. We didn't grow up and hear, like, Oprah Winfrey talking about the fear of holes. You know what I'm saying? There's just so Many manifestations of weird isms that all of these children are presenting now and just leave it. Young adults. Yeah, it's all about. It's all fucking TLC's fault. They all point out all the weird.

[Brian Moses]

If I get my scientist hat on. I mean, we are a species that's made to survive. So I think we're not running from lions, tigers, and bears. We have to make stuff up like, oh, my God, this person's love bombing me. Or oh, my God.

[Brian Green]

That's a pretty smart observation, actually. I like that one. And. And you might. And you're probably right about this. Like, we don't have any inherent fears anymore. We are certainly the alpha. There's nothing that we're afraid of except for, you know, white guys with machine guns and so the.

[Brian Moses]

The apex predator. Yeah, the apex predator. The white man with the AR15.

[Brian Green]

Oh, that's an apex predator right there. So you still. Do you still stay in touch with Tony? I. I saw. I think I saw you on one of his episodes.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, I was just with Tony over the weekend, actually. No, no, he was playing. Just hanging out. He was doing a club down in San Diego, and before I went to Austin for the weekend to go do the Arsenal game, we said the first ever Roast Battle All Star Game. Before we did that, I was hanging out with Tony in San Diego. He was doing the La Jolla Comedy Store, and it was doing. Yeah.

[Chrissy]

So when he circle.

[Brian Green]

So when he's not filling arenas, he's at the La Jolla Comedy Store. So it's taken off. It's crazy.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah. So, yeah, the La Jolla company spills like 200 people. But I think Tony had a. Not a bet, but like a deal with the owner of the club, Peter Shore, and he was just like, if you can get me the condo that you don't give to comics anymore, I will do your club deal. Yeah, he's like, it's just a free, big money weekend for them, basically.

[Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, he did it. He did it for no reason. He just said, yeah, I just. I just want your condo on the beach and I'll do. I'll do six shows.

[Brian Green]

Wow.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Now give me the condo. Like, I stay there for the. For the time I'm done.

[Chrissy]

Give me the condo in La Jolla. So that says it all.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah.

[Chrissy]

I love La Jolla. It's so beautiful.

[Brian Moses]

You hear it? Yeah. So this condo, it's like on the. It's on Pacific beach, like, right on the coast. Wake up. I mean, nonsense has happened on that thing. I Mean, like, oh, yeah, I remember Steve Ranazizi and, like, Sebastian Maniscalco used to, like, throw, like, water balloons full of who knows what on people. It's just the. The stories of Just, like, some of the guys used to work at the store. I mean, just the things they would do at that comedy. At that comedy condo. The Robin Williams of the world.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Sam Kinison, a fish did blow off his eyeballs and then threw into the ocean. Ocean, yeah.

[Brian Moses]

No, no, he. The ban.

[Brian Green]

Well, those guys are a little crazy. You know, they're probably into something like that, but you're no slouch yourself. I mean, 11 years of doing something consistently at that such a famed, iconic club has got to feel accomplished in some way. I mean, you must be proud of yourself. You had. Now had two Comedy Central shows, one here and then one in the uk, Right? Was the one with Russell Brand. Were you. Were you also you. How did. How did Comedy Central. Did you pitch them the idea? Did they come to you and say, hey, let's do this?

[Brian Moses]

No, it took a long time. Actually. It was Jeff Ross. So Jeff Ross comes in about six months after we start. He had a girlfriend at the time who was one of our best roast battlers. And I remember asking because I was. We were friends mutually through our buddy Sarah Silverman.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Brian Moses]

And she's like, you got to bring Jeff in over there. I was like, I would love to bring Jeff. So I emailed. She's like, here's his email. So I emailed you stuff. And he was like, ah, I'm busy, man. By the way, didn't even know the day. I was always asking. He's like, I'm busy.

[Chrissy]

Maybe later.

[Brian Moses]

Well, just so you know, it's gonna be on this date, and Virginia's battling, and this was his girlfriend at the time. I was like, she's battling, so if you could be there, it'd be great. He's like, I'm not gonna be there. I'm on the road. And then, just by chance, Brett Ernst, who's on Cobra Kai, he was supposed to judge that night. He drops out because he was like, I don't want to do this. He's like, this is late. He's like, what is this? This is crazy. And then Jeff Ross came in with his girlfriend. Completely forgot. He said no to me. Forgot. I had, like, emailed him, came up and said, hey, can I judge this? This looks awesome. I was like, of course you can.

[Chrissy]

Yes. Thank you for accepting the invitation.

[Brian Moses]

And then, yeah, two of his. Two of his Favorite roast riders Yasser Lester and Benji Aflalo were both battling. And then the next day, I remember, like, this yesterday, December 18, 2023. I'm sorry, 2013, he hits me up. He's like, hey, my show just got canceled on Comedy Central called the Burn, so I'm moving back to New York. But I just saw this show you have, and this is something I haven't seen in a long, long time. Makes me feel like I could put this on tv. He's like, give me two weeks till the new year. I'll let you know if I want to make this a TV show with you.

[Brian Green]

Wow.

[Chrissy]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Moses]

And then literally, like, January 6th. It was actually January.

[Brian Green]

January 6th, 2:34pm it was.

[Brian Moses]

It was January 6th, 2014. He hit me up and he was like. He's like, hey, I want to do this. So then we started working on making it a TV show, and then two years later, Comedy Central put us on air.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, well, I do remember. I remember watching it. And Jeff, you know, he. He's the face of that.

[Chrissy]

Yeah, I love Jeff.

[Brian Green]

Jeffrey.

[Brian Moses]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

The funny thing is when you're saying. Telling me. Telling us that story, I can, like, hear Jeff saying that. Those things. I'm not available. What. Who are you exactly? Yeah, yeah, I know, Sarah. So does a lot of people. What does that make you? You know, I can't hear him saying that. And Jeffrey, Rachel is a big deal. So then you guys sell at the Comedy Central. What is the. Did you. Do you enjoy working on television? Like, is that a good thing for you? Do you like the writing and the being? I mean, obviously, the. Probably the money's. It's gonna be central. So I'm sure the money's not like, you know, $10 million.

[Brian Moses]

There's no money. Yeah.

[Chrissy]

There's a platform.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah. I'll say this, B. When. When TV was a thing, right back in the last decade, it was great. I mean, you know, as somebody who's never been on there and, you know, kids, you all dream to be on tv, right? Sure. It's fun, man. The whole process. Magic, right? You don't really understand the process that you're there and how long and arduous can be. People are yelling at you because there's so many moving pieces. Pieces.

[Brian Green]

You know, there's so many personnel depends on everything else. And so if you're one second later not holding your end of the bargain, they're like, dude, you're costing us, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars. You got to get going or Whatever.

[Brian Moses]

Exactly. So, yeah, TV's amazing. I mean, I'll. I'll never get over how amazing TV is. It sucks that it's like, you know, it's not going to be here anymore, but it was great when we had it for 70 years.

[Brian Green]

I'm going to, I'm gonna push back on this idea a little bit. And I talk about this sometimes on the show. I think television as like the way that you and I grew up television. Right? Sesame street, abc, NBC, CBS is not going to be around for very much longer. There'll be small channels and certain people will watch it because it's just, you know, that's just it. It's got tenure. But I think that all of these streaming giants will soon start to fall one by one because it's really hard to make money. We've seen it like Netflix hasn't made money until like three years ago. It didn't make money. And they can't just continue to push out billions and billions of dollars worth of content trying to get everybody. When you try and be everything to everybody, you're nothing to nobody. So it. Netflix may survive, but it will be a more traditional channel. Look, they already have scheduled shows. Now you watch something every Saturday night, right? HBO has gone back to doing the same thing. You know, Disney plus hbo, maybe they survive, but you're. I think everybody's going to start plugging in again to some degree. Maybe it's on the Internet or, you know, DirecTV, Stream or whatever it is to get maybe not necessarily live TV in the way that we think about it, but they will have one place where they go to watch all the things. And Netflix will be another channel and HBO Max will be another channel because you can get everything on demand. That's, that's gonna stay. But I think we've proven that paying 79.99 a fucking month for 73 different applications is not a sustainable business model. Because, well, it's just a cable. Well, it's just going back to cable, right? It's essentially cable. There's a provider, a distributor. It comes to your house.

[Brian Moses]

House.

[Brian Green]

You flip the channel. And if you can get stuff on demand, that's, that's a thing that will stay. But, you know, I just. I don't know. I. We'll see. But that's my, that's my prediction. Because people like what's easy and who the wants 75 different streaming places to go watch? They don't anyway.

[Brian Moses]

They don't. But what I mean, what I mean by the downfall of tv, not so much like, you know, the streaming's coming up. I mean, connected tv, I'm talking about, you know, like they say, the, the demographic 15 to 24. Right. Within the next six to 10 years, that will be like the new adults. 32% of them only watch connected TV. That means what? Yeah, over 60, almost 70% of them are, are not watching a connected TV. They're only looking at the TV screen.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Moses]

And they only watch YouTube or things like YouTube. They're watching gaming and, and Twitch and, and the other ones. Right. They're all, all those things.

[Brian Green]

I think you're right in this sense. Yeah, Yeah, I think you're right in this sense is that there are so many places to divide your attention now that like appointment TV is no longer there. Right. It's just not a thing anymore. So where did you guys. Did you. I just, I don't know, did you do well in the, in the ratings specific to Comedy Central when you guys had the Roast Battle?

[Brian Moses]

The UK did so also so linear. Overseas still does really well. I mean, we still get hit up about like, hey, you think we could do something with America and, and overseas? Because Roast Battle does really well over here still. Cable does really well. TV does really. Connected TV does really well over there. That's traditional. Yeah, that's the. If you've talked to, you know, even Amazon, Netflix and, and Hulu, they're still, they're outsourcing a lot of their projects and all their TV over there because the advertising does really well over there because people are still watching tv like it's classic TV over there over here. Because we're, we're content junkies. We're looking at what's the next YouTube? What's the next Netflix style thing that can be a YouTube. But as far as. Yeah, it's really just about overseas. We killed it overseas and we were the highest rated television program and comedy social history overseas.

[Brian Green]

Nice. Did you. Do you still stay in touch with Russell Brand?

[Brian Moses]

No, no, no, no. Russell's.

[Brian Green]

He's like, no, no, no, don't even go there. No, no, no.

[Brian Moses]

Russell's. Russell's in a bunker right now.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah, I saw him in that bunker a couple days ago. He was like, they're a divorce.

[Brian Moses]

Contact with Russell. Who does.

[Chrissy]

I know, right?

[Brian Moses]

I'm the one guy like, oh, she found the guy.

[Chrissy]

We were just together like last week.

[Brian Moses]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Green]

Oh, Russell. Oh, you, you naughty, naughty boy. Russell.

[Brian Moses]

You almost got him. You almost got him. They found.

[Brian Green]

He came real close. This close. They almost Got. They. They tried. They listen. Okay, I'll leave Russell Brand alone so I don't piss more of my listeners off. But. But I do have to say that at one point, Russell was really, like, explosive and funny. Like, he. He really came on the scene and it was like, who the is this dude with the crazy hair and the weird, weird philosophies? And, you know, he had so much energy, and I'm sure he was. He was good.

[Chrissy]

And he married Katy Perry, so.

[Brian Moses]

Oh, man, he's awesome. I mean, I met him. Yeah, When I met him, he was. He was. He's the nicest human you could possibly meet. Very smart. You can tell. And you could tell he's funny and very smart because he's analyzing everything in a very comedic way or a very intellectual way. Everything he does, he doesn't really waste syllables a lot. Doesn't waste words. Words. He's very intentional with what he says, and he's very dialed in and funny. Like, that guy didn't write anything, and everything he said was a plus. Wow. Like. Like off the wall funny. Just. I mean, you are. Oh, this is why you're a superstar, because you're not writing anything down. Everything you're saying sounds like it could be on a script.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I. And I. I tend to think that, like, some of the. There's like, two different types of comedians. To me. There are people who are funny and there are people who are poignant and funny. Like Dave Chappelle, right? He can sit there for 15 minutes on a stool or 20 minutes or 30 minutes and talk about how HBO or Turner, whoever was him, right. And it can come out as important as a president, you know, addressing a nation. It. It's just. It's like as if it was written word for word, but none of it's written. It's a cigarette and a bourbon. Right? And there are people who's just. There are. Are people in our history whose minds work like that. They see things from a perspective that I think most people. It eludes them for their entire life. But these people are so dialed in, they get it. And take away all the controversy around Russell Brand, he was one of those people where you could. He would just say stuff, and it was like, that's brilliant and funny. Like, you have to think and laugh. Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Moses]

It was huge to have him, man. And he hadn't been on television in. In the UK in like six or seven years, I guess, so it was like his day. It was his return to television in the uk, So I think that's why it blew up like it did that first. That first season.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Okay, a couple of questions for you. Have you ever had a physical fight happen at one of the roasts around the world? I have to know. I gotta imagine this has happened at some point.

[Brian Moses]

All right, no, but there has been physical contact. So there's three rules in Roast Battle, right? There's original material only. You can't do any Internet jokes. No. Your mama jokes. Nothing like that.

[Brian Green]

You can't. No. So no Carlos Mencia.

[Brian Moses]

No Carlos. That was the. That was the first rules. Like, we don't want to hear things we've heard before. We're all comics. We all know. Exactly. Yeah. We don't. None of that. Yeah. I go below the surface a little bit, and then number two is nothing's off limits except for physical contact. And then at the end of the battle, we hugged to dissipate any. You know, any of that. Yeah, but there was one time.

[Brian Green]

But there's one time.

[Brian Moses]

There was one time. Yeah. It was Kim Congdon and Jen Sturger. Now, Jen Sturger is famous because she's the. She's the. The. The college reporter who Brett Favre showed his dick to.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Moses]

Oh, yeah, yeah. The opposite of hawk to it. She's like, I'm not gonna spit on that.

[Brian Green]

No interest in it. Whatever that is, Put it back in his hood.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah. And J.Y. became a. A hell of a comic. Right? Like, she tours now, and she's very funny, and she's like. And she was. Was willing to do everything. Willing to get made fun of, willing to go into Roast. Was really into Roast writing and joke writing, and so she was kind of a staple in the Roast Battle in the early days. So she was battling everybody and just, like, you know, willing to take all those jokes. Pardon the pun on the chin. Right. And then Kim is obviously a hell of a roast rider. She's been. She wrote on a couple of the Comedy Central rose. She's been on Roast Battle season two or three. I think, like, Kim's a monster.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I know Kim. Yeah. I mean, Kim. I don't know her personally, but.

[Brian Moses]

So they didn't like each other, and I think this was, like, a hot. It's like. It's like a hot girl beef, right?

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Moses]

Like, why do they think you're better looking than me kind of a thing. Why? My thirst traps are better than your thirst. So they started battling, and it was basically, Kim had, like, a crew of, like, other, like, hot girls with her, and Jen came alone, you know, and Then at the end of the battle, they hugged or whatever, or they didn't. I think they shook hands, and then one of the. Of Kim's entourage pushed JY and then. And then JY called the cops and then. Yeah, it was a whole thing. People thought it was a big brawl that happened.

[Chrissy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Green]

Why do third parties always get involved with beat? You know what I'm saying? Like, what does this have to do with you? Like, third party. You see that at the bars a lot.

[Brian Moses]

And the only other time I could think of is I was talking about this last night, actually. It was the local news had missed. Had messed up and said that we had caused. Caused a murder.

[Brian Green]

Oh, what?

[Brian Moses]

Yeah. So somebody got somebody. Rest in peace, to the person. But this person. There was a beef happening in another show at the Comedy Store, and that thing had matriculated down the street, and then I guess they had come back to the Comedy Store, and then that guy found him and then shot that guy at the Comedy Store. Murdered him. Yeah, but because we were the only show going on at the time when the news showed up.

[Brian Green]

Up.

[Brian Moses]

It was because of us.

[Chrissy]

God.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, they're like local. Local roast battle causes murder, turns murderous. God.

[Brian Green]

There's only two things local news stations know how to do. And give you inaccurate weather forecasts. I'm sure. I'm sure. Oh, my God. That's up. So they just made some random connection because you happen to be in the building doing a rose battle that clearly this must have led to some kind of drama. And then were you, like, the neighborhood nuisance for a while? People were like, I'm not going there.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, no, it was like that. Yeah, it was like. They were like, no, I don't want to get shot.

[Chrissy]

Oh, God.

[Brian Moses]

No. But at that time, we were. We were still on tv, so I think we were good. I remember that point. It was the oddball festival, which was like, this huge comedy festival going on, and Jeff Ross, Anthony Jeselnick, and Tiffany Haddish. It all just like, came in on helicopter. Dr. Whoa. Like, 15 minutes prior. Down from down the street. Wow. And this is like, right before this guy gets shot, I'm just like, wow, I can't believe you guys almost got shot. That was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. But they were like, why did we come here to, like.

[Chrissy]

They were like, the helicopter touched out and then went back up.

[Brian Green]

Why exactly did we use our helicopter time to come here?

[Brian Moses]

Right.

[Brian Green]

Tiffany had these showing up in a. In a helicopter. That.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah. Yes.

[Brian Green]

That is a funny image in my head, but one I Could see Tiffany had these huge star. What is the funniest single, if you. I mean, or if you can. Whatever. The funniest you can remember right now. Single roast. You've heard, like, single funniest roast line.

[Chrissy]

God, that's got to be easy.

[Brian Green]

I know. He had it.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah. It's always on the top of it. Yeah. So there's a. An able body battler and a not able body battle battler. Ah, the not able body battler has cerebral palsy. And then the able body guy says this to him. He says, joe is going to hell because there's a stairway to heaven.

[Brian Green]

Ah.

[Brian Moses]

Because. Because Joe's in a wheelchair. Right.

[Chrissy]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Moses]

You just got to see, like, a guy standing up with a guy in a wheelchair saying, like, this guy's going to hell. There's a stairway to heaven. It's just like, there's so many great layers to that.

[Chrissy]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Moses]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Green]

I was explaining to Chrissy what. Because we were talking about you, and we were, you know, prepping for the show yesterday, and I was. I was telling her what Kill Tony is, because I was like, listen, I, you know, I know Brian has been a part of Kill Tony or he's been somehow intermingled with Kill Tony. She's like, what's Kill Tony? And I said, well, let me try to explain exactly what it is. It's a little mishmash of everything. But I said, what I like about Kill Tony is that there's able bodied. Able persons. You know, there's. There's. So he. It doesn't matter. It. What if you think you're funny, like.

[Chrissy]

All bets are off.

[Brian Green]

I'll get. All bets are off. I'll give you a couple minutes. Do your thing. We'll give you some pointers. We'll let you roast us. We'll roast you, all that other stuff. And it's all in good fun and it's all in good spirit, and everyone's in on the joke. And then I think that's part of the brilliance is it's kind of. The comedy is like a great equalizer in some ways, you know? And like in golf, they'll say putting is the great equalizer. I think that. That it's the great equalizer in some ways, because if you can laugh at yourself and you can laugh at other people, it's all the same. The laughter feels good no matter what. And. And. And that's what I can appreciate about the roast scene. And that's what I can appreciate about Kill Tony. Of what you're doing. Because I was watching some of these people, I think it was in Scotland or somewhere, whatever they were. And it was, like, rough stuff. I mean, they were really going at each other. Stuff you would not bring up at a dinner party. But it was fucking funny. And everyone was laughing, including the guy. Guy or the guy at the time who was getting roasted. He was just laughing because he knew it's just all in good fun. It's a great equalizer. We're here to have time, you know?

[Brian Moses]

Yeah. I remember New York during their, their Internet phase in the 2010s. They had this thing called Roastmasters right at the stand, and New York is just. They had this thing. They had this. You just knew a New York style because they were in to talk about dead parents or dead siblings, and they just would attack. Like, somebody's, like, brother or sister would die the day before. That joke is fresh the next day. And. And it would help those people kind of grieve a little bit, you know, just because it does kind of just. It gets rid of this tension inside of you, you know? And we do say this about the Roast Battle. It is that great equalizer, in a sense of anybody can get it. Everybody's accepting. We've had everybody. Right. We've had people who are with cerebral palsy, HIV positive, trans, black, yellow, brown women. We've had everybody.

[Brian Green]

You had women.

[Brian Moses]

I know.

[Brian Green]

That's really. I, I, I protest. Chrissy coming in here every day. You do?

[Chrissy]

I'm breaking down the, breaking down the walls.

[Brian Green]

Yes. I don't know why you're not wearing an apron.

[Chrissy]

I think we should roast each other.

[Brian Green]

Oh, we'll roast each other.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I think we need to roast.

[Brian Moses]

I would love to have you guys on.

[Brian Green]

I would come on and do a roast with you for sure. Would you? Would you have us if we decided to come out there and do it?

[Brian Moses]

Would you really?

[Brian Green]

Absolutely. 100%. I feel like you're a new friend of the show. I would come out and do it, and then I would happily have you back to say, you guys suck, and here's why.

[Brian Moses]

Oh, we'll break down the battle on your show.

[Brian Green]

Or better yet, Chrissy, Brian can pick two people who he thinks are good writer because we're not writer comedians. Right. We can each have somebody on our team that helps us write each other's jokes because we know each other so well. Yeah, we can go at it. What do you think, Brian?

[Brian Moses]

I love this.

[Brian Green]

Okay, we're setting this up.

[Brian Moses]

When can we do this? This Is huge.

[Brian Green]

Next couple months. We'll do it in the next couple months. Yeah, yeah. Yes, absolutely. Brian Moses is going to have us out. We're going to do a rose.

[Chrissy]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Moses]

I'm sorry.

[Brian Green]

We're going to get someone on our team. We'll get. We're going to get one day to prepare. One day to prepare, and then the next one will come in on, like, a Sunday. Monday to prepare. Sorry, Chrissy. One day. That's it. We. I mean, what do you think? I love it.

[Brian Moses]

Wow. Brian and Chrissy Battle. All right. I'm excited about this.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Brian Moses]

You guys have to do this.

[Brian Green]

Okay. It's on celluloid. We got to do it now. Of course, there's a lot of stuff we said on the show, but not this.

[Brian Moses]

That's what our show is, though. It's about consent and boundaries. Right. So your. Your subject has to consent to the battle, and then they have to consent to the boundaries or things that you can or can't say.

[Brian Green]

Fair enough.

[Brian Moses]

You can't say something. Somebody can't say, like. Or they'll tell you. Usually. And that's what's so great about the show is we never pit people against each other. It's usually you have to go find your own food. Right. They say, like, how do I roast Battle? Like, oh, go find somebody who's seen the show and knows the concept of the show, and then we'll get you guys a date. But really, it's about you getting to know this person, understanding their boundaries or if they have any or whatever, and then you go from there.

[Brian Green]

We've been talking. We've been friends for 20 years.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

So we. I think. I think I get it. I'll probably push the envelope too far.

[Chrissy]

I'm going in.

[Brian Green]

Oh, you go in.

[Chrissy]

I'm going in.

[Brian Green]

Listen, if you've listened to the commercial break, there's nothing I haven't seen. We go in.

[Brian Moses]

We go in.

[Brian Green]

The person who roasts Brian the most is Brian. So there's not too many. Much you could say that I haven't already said about myself. Brian.

[Brian Moses]

That's why the show is so successful.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. It. And listen, I. You know, and thank you for that. I. I'm taking. We're doing this. Yeah, we are doing this. Deal?

[Chrissy]

Deal.

[Brian Green]

Done. All right. I think the audience would really like this, actually. I think the audience would be like, this will be fun.

[Chrissy]

Oh, it'll be super fun and very interesting.

[Brian Green]

And then. And then we'll have Brian on. We'll do. We'll tape Live there. We're bringing Christina, Brian, and either a panel of experts or we're bringing Christina. Yeah, we'll have a panel of experts and then. Then. Or some experts. Some people who know this world.

[Chrissy]

I'm gonna have Christina push you.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Christina is our executive. One of our executive producers. And if you listen to, like, the liners of the show where we transition into the commercial, like, you know, go to tcb, podcast.com, whatever, blah, blah, blah. There's always a one liner in there that talks about what a shithead I am. She throws in. The listeners love it. They love when Christina talks about me. So you can have Christina on your side. I'm getting a professional. Professional. I called Brian.

[Chrissy]

Professional note. Christine.

[Brian Green]

I called Brian. I called Brian.

[Chrissy]

Christina's gonna be part of my entourage.

[Brian Green]

Okay. She'd be part of your. I. I'm assuming my wife would probably be part of your entourage, too.

[Brian Moses]

Yes, yes.

[Brian Green]

You need some. You need the inside information.

[Chrissy]

Got the heavy limp dick.

[Brian Green]

How do they.

[Brian Moses]

How do they know that about you?

[Brian Green]

My wife?

[Brian Moses]

I was like, oh, the local glory hole's been talking.

[Brian Green]

That's right. Yes. I've got a practice one at my house. Brian, we're doing this, buddy. No doubt we are doing this. Next couple of months before the. Before the clock strikes on 2024, we will have this done, wrapped, and out to the audience, and Brian will be.

[Chrissy]

Can we get a La Jolla?

[Brian Green]

The roast host? What's it.

[Brian Moses]

Do you want to. Yes, we can do it in La Jolla.

[Brian Green]

Yes, we do.

[Chrissy]

I want to get a condo, too.

[Brian Green]

Well, I don't know. I don't know. Brian and Chrissy are coming out. Can we have the condo?

[Chrissy]

Paulie Shores, like, you never know until you ask.

[Brian Green]

If you lend me a cigarette.

[Brian Moses]

A Camel light.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, a Camel Light. It was. That was a weird night. But Paulie would, You know, Paulie did his thing. It was, like, right out of his weasel phase. Right?

[Brian Moses]

Like, right. Oh, he was prime him then.

[Chrissy]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

And I was, like, 13, 14 years old, and my friend's mom owned a local theater here called Center Stage Theater. Like, you know, 500 seats, 600 seats. And he came to do a show, and she thought that he was like, you know, the thing that the teenagers like, which. It was TV then, too. He had. Either he was on or he had just left.

[Brian Moses]

Okay.

[Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And. And so we went backstage, and he was there, and then we happened to be smoking cigarettes at the time. You know, everybody smoked cigarettes at that time.

[Brian Moses]

But was this France Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Atlanta is Paris. Yes. Brian. You can see Brian if you're in LA at the Comedy Stor every Tuesday night 11 years in running. Please go support our friend Brian Moses.

[Chrissy]

Go to your website.

[Brian Green]

Go to your website. That's Brian Mo. What's your website? I want to make sure, because there's so many. Brian Moses.

[Brian Moses]

I know, I know.

[Chrissy]

Comedy is that.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah. Brian Moses comedy. But. Or just go to. Just go to the Roast Battle League.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, go to RB.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Website roast by the league.com, i think it's called. But yeah, we have everything there. Everything. Brian Moses, for the most part, don't even worry about that. Go to Roast Battle.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, go to Roast Battle League week. RBL on YouTube. I've spent now a couple of days watching those videos and they're really. They're really funny. And. And thank you for the invite. We are doing this. So I've got your email. I'll get with you in the next week and we're going to start planning this out.

[Brian Moses]

Yeah, I'll get you guys.

[Brian Green]

I am actually. I'm actually so excited about this. I'm sure. I'm sure I won't be as excited. Three minutes before we go on stage. I'm gonna be ready right now. You better be ready. Yeah, I'm bringing the heat.

[Brian Moses]

Heat.

[Brian Green]

I'm quick. I got a fast mouth. All right, but you got a fast brain. So together it should be interesting in some way, shape or form. Brian Moses, my friend, thank you very much for.

[Chrissy]

Thank you, Brian, for coming on.

[Brian Green]

Thank you for coming on and thank you for inviting us. We really appreciate it.

[Chrissy]

Great conversation. Thank you.

[Brian Moses]

Chrissy and Brian. Brian and Chris, you guys are the best. Love the commercial break. It should. There's no. Yeah, it should be no commercial breaks. You guys should just go ad free.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, well, we tried that one time. We tried that one time. And the listeners said, I'd rather listen to the advertisement than. Than pay you. To be fair, that was four years ago. But, you know, we. We shied away from it after that experience. We were like, it's too much work. Let's just. Plus, you have to put out extra content. And we're already doing this four days a week. How much more content can we put out? We can't.

[Brian Moses]

Four days a week.

[Brian Green]

My God, four days a week. That's. Listen, that's why we're so popular, is because we put out 7,000 hours of.

[Brian Moses]

Content and you guys aren't married. This is crazy.

[Chrissy]

No buzzfeed.

[Brian Green]

No. If we were married, we'd Kill each other.

[Brian Moses]

That's for sure.

[Chrissy]

And maybe we will after we never even dated.

[Brian Green]

Maybe there's another murder in La Jolla. We'll figure it out.

[Brian Moses]

Well, you guys never dated either.

[Chrissy]

No, no, no. Never together. Became best friends. And the time, kind of. He was married at the time, and I was married.

[Brian Green]

I got divorced. We. Then we hit it. We hit Atlanta hard. Five years.

[Chrissy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And I was that another.

[Brian Moses]

Other people.

[Chrissy]

You were dating other people. Then you got married. And so, yeah, just always best friends.

[Brian Green]

It's a true friendship. It can happen. Believe it or not. It can happen.

[Brian Moses]

So this rose pet will be like the first date.

[Brian Green]

It will be the. It'll be like Chrissy and I getting out all that tension for Exactly.

[Chrissy]

Ours is 20 years.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God. Our. Our spouses are gonna kill us. They really are.

[Brian Moses]

This is great. I love this.

[Chrissy]

They're gonna love it.

[Brian Green]

They're gonna be so many undertones to this. And it's gonna live on in commercial break lore. And hopefully it's entertaining for Brian and his crew too. You're the best. We'll see you in La Jolla. I will email you. Thank you, Brian. We really appreciate it.

[Brian Moses]

Thank you, Brian. Christy, you're the best. Thanks.

[Promo Announcer]

What's up, haters? Now, let's get down to business. If you've got something to say, say it to our faces. And by that I mean text us or call us at 212-4333, TCB. That's 212433, 3822. You can and should also find us on Instagram at the commercial break and on TikTok CB podcast. Unless you want to fight me, in which case, don't. And if you're just desperate to see our shining faces in person, keep your ears peeled for ticketing information about TCV Live. As always, don't forget that you can find everything you could possibly need to find on our beautiful website, tcbpodcast.com.

[Brian Moses]

Bye.

[Brian Green]

Well, I think we just got ourselves into a whole shitload of trouble getting on. We there. Do not write this in the notebook.

[Chrissy]

I'm not touching them.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, don't even touch them. Don't even look at the notebook.

[Chrissy]

I'm looking at the notebook, but I'm not touching it.

[Brian Green]

Ah. I'm throwing it on the floor. It's like a hot potato.

[Chrissy]

Get away.

[Brian Green]

Get away at notebook. You're no good for us. You're no good for us unless you. We don't really want to do it, but we just say we might do It.

[Chrissy]

Yeah, that's the treaty.

[Brian Green]

We must.

[Promo Announcer]

Treaties.

[Brian Green]

Do you know why we must do this? Every once in a while, you got to release the steam and release the valve. Right? And this is a way to do it. We've never done it before. And I do think that the audience deserves. Deserves this roast, actually. And it was such a good idea. It was yours. I will remind you, for now until the end of time.

[Chrissy]

I know.

[Brian Green]

So if we end.

[Chrissy]

I think it'll be fun.

[Brian Green]

If we end the commercial break at, like, episode number 625 after the roast. I'll just remember that was Chrissy's fault. Remember, Joe Jonas broke up his marriage because of the roast that Brian did. So he's probably angling for the same thing here. He's like, I'm going to get in Brian's seat. One Brian for another.

[Chrissy]

We're going to take them down.

[Brian Green]

Chris. He's going to. Chris is going to be like, you want to do commercial break with me? Not commercial break, but commercial break with me. What a ride.

[Chrissy]

And the thing about it is, too, is that La Hoya, then I think deserves a quick trip down to Tijuana.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God. I didn't even think about that.

[Chrissy]

You know, could we, you know. You know.

[Brian Green]

Okay. N Y, D, Y, K, N Y. If we go to La Jolla, we will spend an extra day there so that we can go to Tijuana. And I will recreate from you. I will not be buying those pills, but I will recreate for you the journey that I took up until the sketchy alley.

[Chrissy]

Well, I'm gonna go as far as Carlos and Charlie's or whatever.

[Brian Green]

Carlos and Charlie.

[Chrissy]

Senior Frog.

[Brian Green]

Senior. Senior Frogs. Okay. You stay at Senior Frogs.

[Chrissy]

You be my friend, recreate the thing, and you can call and check in with me.

[Brian Green]

Oh, I'll do it. Now that we have better phones and stuff like that. Yeah. We will go down to Tijuana. We will videotape every. Every bit of it. This has to be professionally videotaped. We're probably gonna have to spend a little bit of money on this, but I think we all deserve it. I think. And let's be honest about it, we've never been invited by any of our guests to do anything. I mean, they all say, come to our show, you know.

[Brian Moses]

Right.

[Brian Green]

But, you know, have my people call your people kind of bullshit, which is like, okay, yes, that means call Ticketmaster. That's what that really means. But we are going to do this. Brian, what a lovely gentleman, by the way.

[Chrissy]

Oh, my God, he Was so easy to talk to. So funny. Down to earth. I love it.

[Brian Green]

I loved it. He's. And he called me B. And only my.

[Chrissy]

He's called you B. He called me B. I caught that.

[Brian Green]

And only my really good friends call me B. That's like a term of endearment. I don't know if he means it as a term of endearment, but I'll put words in his mouth. It's a term of endearment. And I really enjoyed our conversation with him. I think you're going to be hearing a lot more Brian Moses on the commercial break. Coming up in the. In the back half of the year.

[Chrissy]

Go to Roast Battles. Go check it out.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I'm already so excited about this.

[Promo Announcer]

I know.

[Chrissy]

Very exciting.

[Brian Green]

I can't even contain my excitement now. That'll be tempered when I tell my wife this and she goes, the. Are you getting yourself?

[Brian Moses]

Yeah.

[Chrissy]

He's like, what?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. She's like, you are such a baby. You cannot handle that. You're not gonna be able to do that. But I'm not really. I roast myself all the time on the show.

[Chrissy]

We also have such shiny object syndrome where we're like, we're doing a live show. No, wait. We're going to go away.

[Brian Green]

But we are going to do this.

[Chrissy]

We are going to do.

[Brian Green]

We are going to do this.

[Chrissy]

Why not?

[Brian Green]

How can we pass up the opportunity?

[Chrissy]

I mean, it was an. It was a direct invite.

[Promo Announcer]

He was.

[Chrissy]

Seemed excited.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Chrissy]

I was surprised the second you seemed.

[Brian Green]

He was like, come, I'll get you the condo.

[Chrissy]

Yeah, I had to throw the condo in there.

[Brian Green]

They're not gonna get us.

[Brian Moses]

I know.

[Brian Green]

I can guarantee that will not. I had to ask if Tony Huncliffe had to do six shows in a row, they're gonna be like, who are these nude nicks you're gonna put up in our condo?

[Chrissy]

I don't know, but they think they're hot.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, they think they're hot. Man, do they think they're funny. All right, tcbpodcast.com Listen, we finally got the date straightened out for the Florida leg. Leg of our live shows. I will be announcing those in the next couple of shows. Yes, we did. I have to talk to you about that after the show. Well, we were so hurried today, I didn't get a chance to tell you ahead of time.

[Chrissy]

Nice.

[Brian Green]

Okay, so tcbpodcast.com we will give you information on how to get the tickets when the tickets are available. That will be soon because the shows are soon. We have to do that. Too at the commercial. Oh you can get your free sticker there too. TCP podcast.com go to the contact us button drop down menu. I want my free sticker. Give us your address. We'll send it off at the commercial break on Instagram. Please please please follow us there. DM us we'd love to talk to you and we'll also share the all the live show information there also. So one of those two places you got to be connected to two or just here as I'll incessantly say the date over and over again until kingdom come. 212-433-3822 212-4333 TCB As Astor pointed out, when you text somebody there are no numbers on the phone. There are no letters on the numbers. So people have been confused. So 212-433-3822 questions, comments, concerns, contents, ideas or take them all there voicemail or text message. Also if you would mind YouTube.com the commercial break. Take that right there you go out. Okay Chrissy, that's all I can do for today.

[Chrissy]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

And I'll tell you that I love you.

[Chrissy]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you.

[Chrissy]

Best to you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Get ready for that roast cuz it's coming. Until next time. Chrissy and I always say we do say and we must say goodbye. Sam.