TCB Infomercial: Des Bishop

Summary

The Commercial Break: TCB Infomercial Episode Featuring Des Bishop Release Date: January 28, 2025

Introduction In this episode of The Commercial Break, hosts Kristen Joy and Brian Green welcome comedian Des Bishop for an engaging and insightful conversation. The episode seamlessly blends humor, personal anecdotes, and thoughtful discussions on various topics, offering listeners a "real life commercial break from your everyday drama."

Guest Introduction: Des Bishop Des Bishop, a renowned comedian known for his sharp wit and candid perspectives, joins the show to discuss his latest endeavors, including his new podcast and experiences in the comedy circuit.

New Podcast: The Bishop Exchange Des introduces his new podcast, The Bishop Exchange, a collaboration with UK comedian John Bishop. The hosts delve into the inspiration behind the podcast and the dynamic between Des and John.

“We’re not related, you know, but we have had this weird connection through our name and our friendship for like a really long time.” — Des Bishop [14:42]

Des highlights the challenges of bridging transatlantic cultures and the unique comedic styles that both he and John bring to the table.

Super Bowl Discussion: Chiefs vs Eagles and Fan Behaviors The conversation shifts to sports as Des and the hosts discuss the upcoming Super Bowl matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. They humorously compare the intense fan behaviors of both teams.

“If the Chiefs win this Super Bowl, they will be the only third three-time champs of the Super Bowl ever.” — Des Bishop [06:09]

Fantasy Football Banter Kristen and Dez engage in a lighthearted discussion about fantasy football, with Dez sharing his humorous lack of expertise despite his marketing background in the industry.

“I could not tell you one inch about fantasy football.” — Dez Bishop [07:03]

Political Discussions: Elon Musk’s Public Persona A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing Elon Musk's recent actions and public persona. Des and Dez express concerns about Musk's behavior, likening it to problematic leadership tendencies and discussing the broader implications for society.

“He has become, like, insanely obsessed with, like, the MAGA agenda.” — Des Bishop [34:30]

“The government is now for sale out in the fucking open and Elon is the one that's buying it.” — Dez Bishop [38:47]

They critique Musk's influence on political discourse and the potential dangers of his unchecked power.

TV Shows: "Severance" and "Say Nothing" The hosts and Des dive into a discussion about the critically acclaimed TV show Severance and the series Say Nothing, analyzing their impact, storytelling techniques, and thematic depth.

“The Severance is such a good show. It's so well crafted.” — Dez Bishop [54:26]

Des offers a nuanced critique of Say Nothing, highlighting its portrayal of the Troubles in Ireland and questioning the historical accuracy and narrative choices made in the series.

“It's an exceptionally good series about that. The worst part of the troubles.” — Des Bishop [63:46]

Personal Life: Tours, Real Estate, and Relationships Des shares insights into his personal life, including his tour across continents, real estate ventures in Ireland and New York, and the dynamics of maintaining relationships while on the road.

“He’s doing another podcast called the Bishop Exchange with another comedian from the UK called John.” — Dez Bishop [03:12]

“We bought the house in West Hampton. That was when I was talking to you.” — Des Bishop [49:10]

The discussion underscores the balance between professional commitments and personal life, highlighting the challenges and rewards of a life in comedy.

Closing Remarks As the episode winds down, Kristen and Dez express their appreciation for Des's openness and the depth of the conversation. They tease future collaborations and encourage listeners to check out Des's comedy tours and his new podcast.

“We are now on the Odyssey Network. So check it out.” — Dez Bishop [56:08]

“We are so pleased that he has decided, we are so pleased that he was not full of shit and he in fact agreed to come back on a second time.” — Dez Bishop [02:31]

Notable Quotes

1. On Fantasy Football Expertise:

   “I could not tell you one inch about fantasy football.” — Dez Bishop [07:03]

2. On Elon Musk’s Influence:

   “The government is now for sale out in the fucking open and Elon is the one that's buying it.” — Dez Bishop [38:47]

3. On TV Shows Impact:

   “The Severance is such a good show. It's so well crafted.” — Dez Bishop [54:26]

4. On Personal Real Estate Ventures:

   “We bought the house in West Hampton. That was when I was talking to you.” — Des Bishop [49:10]

Conclusion This episode of The Commercial Break with Des Bishop offers a blend of humor, critical analysis, and personal storytelling. From discussing new podcasts and sports to delving into political commentary and television critiques, the hosts and guest provide a rich tapestry of conversation that is both entertaining and thought-provoking. Listeners are encouraged to follow Des's tour, explore his new podcast, and engage with The Commercial Break across various platforms for more content.

Key Takeaways:

• Des Bishop's New Podcast: The Bishop Exchange with John Bishop aims to bridge comedic styles across the Atlantic.
• Political Concerns: The hosts express anxiety over influential figures like Elon Musk and their impact on societal norms.
• Television Analysis: Insightful discussions on Severance and Say Nothing highlight the importance of storytelling and historical accuracy in media.
• Personal Insights: Balancing a life on tour with personal relationships and investments offers a glimpse into the life of a modern comedian.

Listeners looking for a mix of comedy, insightful discussions, and personal anecdotes will find this episode a rewarding listen.

Transcript

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[Des Bishop]

Nah, kids are like farts. You love to smell your own ones, but other people's farts still stink. It's not even like that. Imagine a fart you can't walk away from. You know what I mean? Wherever you go, it's fucking.

[Dez Bishop]

You're still there.

[Des Bishop]

Parenting. Parenting. Imagine a fart you can't walk away from.

[Dez Bishop]

On this episode of the commercial break, Dez's next door neighbor is not hot Howard Stern. That we're just making that clear right now. Howard is. Howard is not on that side of the.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, but however, Eli Manning is on our side of the canal. He doesn't live exactly near us, but. And Anderson Cooper is on our side.

[Dez Bishop]

Look at Anderson.

[Kristen Joy]

Anderson.

[Des Bishop]

And Susan Lucci is in my village.

[Dez Bishop]

Oh, I like Susan Lucci. I know down there.

[Des Bishop]

Gen X. Gen X. People love Susan Lucci.

[Dez Bishop]

The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, yeah, cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is the Hertz to Maima Holmes. Kristen Joy of Hoadley. Best to you, Chrissy.

[Kristen Joy]

To you, Brian.

[Dez Bishop]

Wow. I'm going to get this right one of these days. Her name is Hoadley. Not Foadly. In case anybody was wondering, here on a TCB infomercial Tuesday with our second, second DEZ Bishop coming in to join us.

[Kristen Joy]

I love me some Des Bishop.

[Dez Bishop]

You know, last time DEZ came in, he said, hey, call me anytime. I'd be happy to Come back on the show anytime you guys want me to. And, you know, as I always. Yeah, I thought about it, but then I'm like, he really didn't mean that. Yeah, he really didn't mean that. My negative Nancy brain always goes to. He's just being nice. He's just being polite. Because a lot of people have said something very nice like that. Call me anytime. Happy to come back on the show, but I'm very nervous to ask them back on. But DEZ was. I was watching Des Instagram. He announced that he's doing yet another podcast. I don't have any podcasts that guy has. But he's doing another podcast called the Bishop Exchange with another comedian from the UK called John.

[Kristen Joy]

John Bishop.

[Dez Bishop]

And so the Bishop is not related. Not related. Even though they look very much alike and they, you know, they don't talk alike. They. John has a much thicker accent. But anyway, the Bishop Exchange now available on any podcast app there where you get your podcast. It's really funny. So I told Des, I said, hey, Des, here's a reason to come in. I it. It. I felt like it was a good reason.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah.

[Dez Bishop]

To throw some bait out there and see if he really meant what he said. And he responded right away. He's like, I'd love to. So he's an island. He'll join us here in a few minutes. But the big news today. Well, a news item today is that the Eagles and the Chiefs will meet themselves in the 355th Super Bowl. And the Eagles celebrating in Philadelphia the only way Philadelphia fans know how, by shooting off guns and running into each other with cars. I mean, it's just insane. Those. Those Eagles fan, those Philly fans, they are no joke. You know, when the Phillies play the Braves, it's always a ruckus time, right? Because the Philadelphia fans are fans like no other, and the Braves fans are fans like no other. And what I mean by like no other, we're like the people in la. We show up at the seventh inning, we leave at the eighth inning. We show up right before the beer sales stop, and we leave right after they do. That's it. That's how long we stay at our Braves games. But those Phillies fans are getting rowdy. Rowdy. Shooting guns off in the air. Some. Some guy shot a gun in the air. I was just watching a video, shot a gun in the air. And the girl was like, ow, you that. You know my ear. Don't. That's a gun. Don't shoot that in the air. And he goes I don't give a fuck the Phillies won or the Eagles won. And I'm like, you don't give a fuck. Okay. All right. That's. That's the way it is, I guess. So who are we going for? The Chiefs or the Eagles? The Chiefs. I only know this because I watched a brief period of the Chiefs game a couple nights ago.

[Kristen Joy]

Oh, you did?

[Dez Bishop]

Yes, I did.

[Kristen Joy]

I watched the whole thing. I was rooting for the Bills, I have to say.

[Dez Bishop]

You were rooting for the Bills? Why just the anti Chiefs?

[Kristen Joy]

Well, I have a good friend who lives in Buffalo who's from Buffalo and he has really rallied the.

[Dez Bishop]

Our.

[Kristen Joy]

Our friend group.

[Dez Bishop]

Don't think I've ever met someone from Buffalo.

[Kristen Joy]

Oh yeah, I went to their wedding up in Buffalo. I've been to Buffalo.

[Dez Bishop]

Did you like Buff?

[Kristen Joy]

I liked Buffalo. Buffalo was nice.

[Dez Bishop]

It was.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, it was really. Uh huh.

[Dez Bishop]

Okay. All right, listen. I have never been myself so I can't. I don't want to talk shit about Buffalo, but I know it's up there that it's cold.

[Kristen Joy]

Upstate New York.

[Dez Bishop]

The Buffalo Bills are football team. Yes. Very close to the fall. Did you go to the falls?

[Kristen Joy]

I did.

[Dez Bishop]

What'd you think?

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah. Loved it.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah. You think you can make it over in a barrel? You think you'll make it over in a barrel? Yeah.

[Kristen Joy]

And I can't believe that people did that back then.

[Dez Bishop]

People do it all the time.

[Kristen Joy]

No, not still.

[Dez Bishop]

There's. There was a guy like three years ago went over in the barrel and.

[Kristen Joy]

Didn'T make allow that unless it's part of. Well, I don't think they've been allowed.

[Dez Bishop]

Right. They don't allow it. Right. The guy just went. He just did it. Yeah, but he didn't make it, so. He didn't make it, so there you go. So the so.

[Kristen Joy]

But the Chiefs won. It was a close game. It was a good game.

[Dez Bishop]

It was a good game. I watched the. That's what I was watching the very end of it. So now I know from one of the announcers that if the Chiefs win this super bowl they will be the only third three time champs. Three Pete champs of the super bowl ever. Listen, that Patrick Mahomes, he's really good at what he does. He's really good at what he does. He's got swagger. But there's a reason for it. And so.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, their coach is great too. So.

[Dez Bishop]

And so is that girl that sits up in the stand. What's her name? Taylor Swift. So is that girl. I. I didn't See one Taylor Swift sighting though. Yeah, but I was, I was kind of watching the game. Okay.

[Kristen Joy]

I thought they showed her up in the box.

[Dez Bishop]

Look at you doing. Does Jeff like the professional football?

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, well, he's, you know, does all this fantasy stuff which is over now at end of the season. They're over by now, but God bless you, but yeah, he does. I'm thinking about doing the fantasy team next year myself. No, just to get into.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, you're going to go fantasy football.

[Kristen Joy]

On you, I think I'm going to go fantasy football.

[Dez Bishop]

When you do fantasy football, please explain to me exactly how it works. Because I was the vice president of marketing for a fantasy football company and I could not tell you one inch. I could not tell you one sentence about fantasy football. Not one. I would go to conferences, I would speak in front of people, I would market the company. Had no clue. Had never played fantasy sports in my life. Didn't start when I worked there, never did it afterwards. And I was the vice president of marketing for the fantasy football company.

[Kristen Joy]

Wow, you really were getting into your job.

[Dez Bishop]

Well, you see how well the fantasy football company did. Currently employed by that fantasy football company. We marketed it right into the ground when you hire the guy. So the guy comes to me and he says, hey, listen, I'm starting this company. I know a couple of tech geeks and they've built this platform and it's really great and you know, it's all the rage and fantasy football, it's going to change the world of fantasy football. And I was like, great. And he's, he's like, so I want you to be the marketing guy. I want you to head the marketing department. Is a startup company. They just gotten funded. And I said, that's great. But I got to tell you one thing. I don't know the first thing about fantasy football. Never played it. And he's like, I don't think that really matters. I think you could probably market our company as well as anybody else out there. And I said, okay, well if you're going to pay me, sure, why not? And I didn't even ever take the time to get educated about football. It was a short lived job. Not because I was bad at my job, but because the guy who ran the company was bad at managing all that money that people gave him. Yeah, well, you know, it takes all kinds. Chrissy takes all kinds. Well, when you get into fantasy football, let me know. But we're not talking about football today. We're talking about DEZ Bishop, his brand new podcast The Bishop Exchange. He of course, is on burner phone with his wife Hannah. And you can catch him if you're over on the other side of the pond on tour, currently in Ireland. Yep. Desbishop.net you can check out those dates in the UK and in Ireland and then he'll be back here stateside in the spring. He is one of my favorite comics. He is genuinely a nice guy and we are so pleased that he has decided, we are so pleased that he was not full of shit and he in fact agreed to come back on a second time. So our good friend, and we call anybody who comes here twice a good friend. Right? So so far we have two good friends, Reggie Watts and Des Bishop. Our good friend Des Bishop joins us and the magic, through the magic of telepodcasting. As soon as we get back from this break. What do you think, Chris?

[Kristen Joy]

Let's do it.

[Dez Bishop]

All right, we'll be back.

[Brian Green]

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[Dez Bishop]

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[Kristen Joy]

Welcome back.

[Dez Bishop]

You look good. Welcome back. Yes.

[Kristen Joy]

Thanks for coming back.

[Des Bishop]

Thanks for having me. Thanks.

[Dez Bishop]

I've actually been wanting to reach out for a long time, but you know, the holidays and all that other stuff, but every time I see a reel, I'm like, I should let Deads know. He should come back on the show. And so when you got the new podcast announcement, it was a perfect time to say, let's do this.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, yeah, that's great. Well, I'm always, I'm always willing and able and John. So I'm doing this podcast called the Bishop Exchange with a comedian called John Bishop.

[Dez Bishop]

We've been listening. Yeah, yeah, we've listened.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. So I, we, we're not related, you know, but. But we have had this weird connection through our name and our friendship for like a really long time. But he really wants, he's huge in the UK and he's, he's bigger than me in Ireland these days too, to be honest with you. But he really wants to like expand his American audience. I was like, well, you're asking. You're asking the wrong guy.

[Dez Bishop]

Yes. Tell him to come on. Yeah, ask Chris Rock. Tell him to come on. We'll help him. We'll. We'll do an interview with him if you want. If that's like, if you, if he needs a little love here in the States with some listeners, then just give him our email address and we'll.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, I will. I will, absolutely.

[Dez Bishop]

Or both of you can come or whatever. You know, you guys will figure it out.

[Kristen Joy]

The congregation.

[Dez Bishop]

The congregation. We will.

[Des Bishop]

Oh my God, you guys really have been listening. Jesus.

[Dez Bishop]

Yes.

[Des Bishop]

Embarrassing me.

[Dez Bishop]

Well, you put it out there.

[Kristen Joy]

We gotta listen conversation and join the congregation.

[Des Bishop]

Wow, you guys really did listen.

[Kristen Joy]

I can't believe that.

[Dez Bishop]

Do you think we're gonna take an opportunity to listen to those silver haired foxes on the, on the RSS feed?

[Kristen Joy]

Come on, man.

[Des Bishop]

I know, it's funny. It takes a while to figure out exactly what you want to say though, you know, I mean, it's hard.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah. John and I. Hardest part.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. I was just happy to have Like a similar age, man, to bounce off. Like, I love doing the Burn a Phone with Hannah, but like, you know, she's got that, she's got her sense of humor and I got mine and that's great. But it's also nice to have like somebody who's like, more like you to also have like different types of conversations.

[Dez Bishop]

Could agree more.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, but I still haven't figured out exactly. I mean, if I had my way, we would just talk about the 90s.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, that's us.

[Dez Bishop]

That's us. Yeah. We have to rein it in sometimes.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, Like, I love that.

[Dez Bishop]

Group of listeners, according to Spotify analytics, is females like 25 to 35. Right. It's like 80% of our Spotify audience. And this is like a relatively new development. We were about 50, 50 male, female, skewing a little bit older, like at 30 to 45. But then all of a sudden over the last six months, we've turned into like this younger female crowd. And every once in. Yeah, at least the people on Spotify, I have to remind myself that, you know, Chrissy and I were just saying this. They're not going to remember what totally tubular means. It's just not going to happen.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, totally. I have, I have. Well, I have that with Hannah sometimes, but particularly Hannah's. Hannah's fans. Like, she's got a lot of like, fans in their early 20s.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

And like every. Very rarely. Not lately. But like, sometimes I would open for her if we were in a cool spot. And like, I really had to make sure I was doing bits that they got, you know.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, that's. You face a lot of. I mean, Astrid's not, you know, Astrid doesn't have a million Instagram followers, my wife. But I see you present a lot of the same challenges that my relationship does. Cause there's similar age gap between me and my wife. And so it's always like, it's fun to have conversations with my wife and I love talking to her. But sometimes it's nice also to talk to the 46 year old man who also went through some of the same things I went through. And then like, we connect on that and that's hard. Like when I say some things to Astrid, sometimes she's like, what are you even. I wasn't even born. And I'm like, you couldn't learn.

[Kristen Joy]

Also, she's from another country.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, she's from another country. That does. Yeah. When you're from Venezuela, it's like, all right, let's get started. Let's not waste all the good talk here. Let's get started.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, I thought we would. I thought we started.

[Dez Bishop]

No, no, no. Well, we can actually. You know what? We can. All right. We're just going. We already started. All right. DEZ Bishop back here with us.

[Kristen Joy]

Welcome back.

[Dez Bishop]

Welcome back. Thank you for, for coming on board. We really appreciate it. We all woke up last week, Thursday, to the. On the. I. I opened up the Hollywood Reporter, Huffington Post, Daily Beast. I saw the big news that Des is starting his fifth podcast. All over the front page. Des is starting his fifth podcast, the Bishop Exchange, with not his brother, John Bishop. But I swear, when you made this announcement, I ran to Astrid and I go, hey, Astrid, did you know that DEZ has a new podcast with his brother? Because I could. You guys, not only do you, obviously you're from across the pond, you have the same last name, but you kind of share a little bit of a resemblance, you and John Bishop. A little bit, I think.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, 100%. Like, we could have absolutely just said we were like first cousins from the first. From the jump and people would have believed it. I do have a brother in comedy, Aiden. But actually, if you see Aiden next to Jon, I mean, they're very similar. We're convinced that there's some crossover genetically, but. But really it's just a funny coincidence that. That we're quite alike, you know? Yeah, but. But he's from Liverpool. I mean, I'm from Queens, but living in Ireland. But anyway, we always had this, we always had this funny bond over our name and, you know, we're like, we're like like minded guys.

[Dez Bishop]

You are, yeah, you're like minded. You're of the similar age and you're running around the similar. You're playing in the same playground, essentially. So tell us a little bit about your boyfriend John, because maybe, maybe the people over on this side of the pond don't know as much about John as you do. Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

So the thing about John Bishop is he's one of the biggest comedians in the uk. And when I say that, I think people don't understand the magnitude of it. He is 100% an arena comic. And, you know, the UK, small landmass, but, you know, 70 million people, not, not like a small country. And he's doing these, you know, these, these cities all over the UK and he's doing multiple nights in arenas. I mean, he is a comparative guy. I mean, in the 2000s, I guess a comparative guy would be like Chris Rock or Bill Burr of, of the UK and also in Ireland, like He. He actually. I kind of. I broke out in Ireland before him, but then he actually. He's huge in Ireland too. So he's really like, Ireland in the uk, one of the biggest comics. But lately he has had an itch to do more stuff in the States.

[Dez Bishop]

To come over to the States.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. And he's been recording stuff in the States and he's really fascinated by the challenge to him of, like, leaving essentially, like, stardom to. Yeah. Anonymity, which was part of his motivation for starting the pod. Because he just basically wants to cross over. Yeah. And he wants to have as much stuff out there about who he is, you know?

[Dez Bishop]

Do you find this is pretty common? Like, we were talking to Russell Howard a couple of weeks ago.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, right. Okay. Good buddy of mine also.

[Dez Bishop]

Oh, you know Russell, he's great.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, I can listen to him. We all go back, actually. We're all the same vintage. John is older, but only because he started comedy very late. He didn't start comedy till he was 36. Russell and I would have started at, like, a similar age. So, like, we go back to, like, playing football, soccer, at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Me, Russell Howard, John Bishop, Daniel Kits and John Oliver. John Oliver, like, all of us. Oh, the Flight of the Concords. Like, Edinburgh, 2002. Like, our football and, like, tip. Rugby matches were like, John Oliver, you know, Daniel Kidson, John Bishop, Me. Who else? Oh, guys. Other guys you wouldn't know. Like Josh Whitakem and Adam Hills.

[Dez Bishop]

John.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. Just like, guys that just like, became. Became huge. And Russell, like, Russell has been huge in the UK for years. Russell and John are kind of similar in that way, you know?

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah. So you know Russell, we were talking to him. Two things I found was interesting. One is that Russell is such a sensation over in the uk, but he also, I think, you know, he's got some following here too, in the us so when I was doing my homework about Russell, I found a website. The second interesting thing, not only is he trying to make that kind of plant his flag over here. Second interesting thing about Russell is that. But the UK government, the United Kingdom government, has a website tracking the popularity of comics coming from the uk. So if you really. Yes, absolutely. And so I'm. Go ahead.

[Brian Green]

I. Hey, sorry. I'm the producer. I did my research on your research. That is incorrect.

[Dez Bishop]

What do you mean?

[Brian Green]

It's not a government website.

[Dez Bishop]

It's uk.gov. it's called YouGov.

[Brian Green]

It's not uk.gov.

[Dez Bishop]

Okay, great. Well, so there's a website tracking the tracking the, the popularity of comics over there in the uk. And I found this to be so extremely interesting because some of the people that were high on this list of comics, you know, I don't know how it gets voted. I'm sure it's just people voting online is like, like third, third Call. Actors from Benny Dorm. The show Benny Dorm were like higher than Russell Howard. And I was busting his balls. I'm like, yeah, more popular than the show Benidorm. And he was like, oh my God, I can't believe this. There's a website out there. So now I'm going to do my research on John on that same website and I'm going to see just how popular.

[Des Bishop]

So is this, is this the popularity of UK X in the States or just the popularity of UKX in general?

[Dez Bishop]

Popularity of, of anybody? That was, I guess the, the, the criteria for this particular website was British born comics doing the circuit around the uk. So it's really just about British comics and it was just such a funny website. And then they had all this information as to who they were popular with. Female, male, what age group they were. Pop. It was like the, it was a really interesting website and at the time because it says UK gov, right? I thought it was an actual. Like you can.

[Des Bishop]

But YouGov is a, YouGov is a polling, it's a, it's a polling thing, right?

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, it's just a polling thing. Yeah, it's just a polling thing. So where do you and John record the podcast? Are you guys in the room together?

[Des Bishop]

No, only that first one. Cause he was in New York and I was in New York but now I left to Ireland actually the next day and then he went back to UK the day after. So we're just recording remote. So we're stuck with the remote stuff for now, but we'll try to get together when we can.

[Dez Bishop]

Okay. So the bishop exchange is the name of the podcast. Go check it out. We've listened to the first couple of episodes.

[Kristen Joy]

Become a member of the congregation.

[Dez Bishop]

Become a member of the congregation.

[Des Bishop]

But he also wanted the other, the other useful nature of the word exchange. Because we were just looking for like a bishop name. But he wanted it to be like cross cultural. Like he wanted that to be part of it. He wanted that transatlantic bridge.

[Dez Bishop]

Yes.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. But you know, it can be hard too because like I, I think it will be harder for us to truly get the Americans to, to plug in because the British people love chatting about America. Like they love chatting about American politics and it's not that Americans don't like chatting about British politics. They just don't know.

[Dez Bishop]

We don't know.

[Des Bishop]

So it's like confused. On one side, you're talking about something everyone has an opinion on. On the other side, it's like, let's educate America about Britain. So we'll see. We'll see if we can manage to, To. To bridge. To. To make that bridge. That. That's one of the challenges.

[Dez Bishop]

Well, I have noticed, as a guy who follows your Instagram, I have noticed that you've been conspicuously absent from the United States for the. Have you purposefully fled over there back to Ireland?

[Des Bishop]

No, I literally. I have actually been in the States until last Tuesday. So I did not do. I was not one of the only people that said, if Trump gets elected, I'll go, because, number one, I didn't say that. And number two, nobody ever actually goes, except for Ellen DeGeneres, who, who was, let's face it, she was fleeing, like, so much stuff. You know, she's getting hatred. She's getting hatred from both sides, so.

[Dez Bishop]

That's right.

[Des Bishop]

Anyway, no, I just. I had this tour planned for quite a while. I'm here. I'm here for seven weeks now. But no, I haven't been. I. I have been in the States. I just. I went into a little bit of a glut of posting just because, like, I was. I was touring, doing, doing shows on the road, but I just wasn't, like, recording them, you know?

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, it's tough. It's a job in itself.

[Dez Bishop]

It is a job in and of itself. Do you, like, handle your own Instagram?

[Des Bishop]

I do.

[Dez Bishop]

You need a person? Yeah. You need a person?

[Des Bishop]

Well, no, it's not so much that. It's. Honestly, it's getting them up on Instagram isn't my problem. The problem is just getting them recorded. And, like, sometimes I'm proactive. Like, I had some shows before Christmas where I got, you know, I was proactive, I got some content. But then after Christmas, literally, I was just being a bit lazy.

[Kristen Joy]

Right.

[Des Bishop]

With some of my.

[Dez Bishop]

What do you guys do for Christmas? I'm fascinated to know this. How do you handle the holidays?

[Des Bishop]

Well, hey, number one benefit of having two dead parents is that you don't have any stress about where to go for Christmas.

[Dez Bishop]

Fair enough.

[Des Bishop]

So it's not a thing. The main thing is Hannah's half Italian. Her mother's side is Italian. So they do the Christmas Eve.

[Dez Bishop]

Yes.

[Des Bishop]

You know, the Seven Fishes or whatever, which is not actually an Italian thing. It's an Italian American thing.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah.

[Dez Bishop]

But I don't know is the seven fishes.

[Kristen Joy]

Oh, you don't know about the seven fish?

[Des Bishop]

I think it might even be like a New York thing.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, yeah, it's seven.

[Des Bishop]

Because they all. I grew up with all these Italian.

[Kristen Joy]

Seven types of fish.

[Des Bishop]

So seven different fish on Christmas Eve. I think it's seven, right?

[Kristen Joy]

I think so, yeah.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah. She's Italian. She knows seven. So seven different fishes on Christmas Eve, you just, like, go. And you have.

[Kristen Joy]

It's cooked different ways.

[Dez Bishop]

How do you even find seven different types of fish?

[Des Bishop]

Well, you got calamari. Come on. There's loads of fish.

[Dez Bishop]

Oh, okay. If we're adding in squid, then. Okay. All right.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah.

[Dez Bishop]

Shrimp, squid, oxid. Seafood. Seafood. Okay, got it.

[Des Bishop]

But anyway, it's. I. I don't know where I looked it up that there's no real. His. There's no evidence of any history. It's kind of. It's. It's derivative. But the thing is that the real history, which I think gets. It gets forgotten about a bit, that all the ethnic groups in America, they have their own culture, and those cultures are just as valid, you know? So just because it doesn't actually come from Italy doesn't mean it's not a unique cultural experience.

[Dez Bishop]

No, of course.

[Des Bishop]

You're having the unique Irish American Christmas, for example. A lot of people don't know this. Corned beef and cabbage is not a thing in Ireland.

[Dez Bishop]

No, really?

[Des Bishop]

No. It's bacon and cabbage. It's boiled ham and cabbage is the Irish dish. Somehow it became corned beef and cabbage in America. I have no idea.

[Kristen Joy]

They had to work with why.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

And now that's the thing. I was like, corned beef and cabbage. But, like. No. And I have to tell you something else. Americans, Irish Americans don't make cabbage as well as Irish people, because I love bacon and cabbage. But corned beef and cabbage is shy.

[Dez Bishop]

My dad made this all the time when we were kids. He made corned beef and cabbage. You know, an Irish of Irish descent.

[Des Bishop]

Of course.

[Dez Bishop]

An Irish of Irish descent living in Chicago. That was the thing. Corned beef and cabbage everywhere. I hated that dish. It was disgusting to me. But as an adult, I have had other. Other people's corned beef and cab. Sorry, dad. You made it like shit. Yeah, well, yeah.

[Des Bishop]

And my grandmother. My grandmother was from Ireland, like, you know, like a proper, strong Irish accent. But she did adopt the. We used to have corned beef and cabbage in her house on. Thanks. On St. Patrick's Day. That was like okay, that was the thing. But we'd march in the parade and then we'd come home and have corned beef and cabbage in my grandmother's house.

[Dez Bishop]

So is it fucking cold over there? I was thinking about this this morning when I realized you were over in.

[Des Bishop]

And over in Ireland. Yeah, I know it's colder where you are. Like, we, we have. Oh, no, sorry, you're in Atlanta, actually. You had your own.

[Dez Bishop]

Oh, no, it's cold.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, you, yeah, you had some snow there. I caught a little bit of that, sort of. I caught the first little cold wave in the south because I was in North North Carolina and South Carolina. Charlotte and Greenville.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

Very disappointing. Like, absolutely freezing.

[Dez Bishop]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Des Bishop]

So, so, so that was a let down. But then I was in Minneapolis, which was absolute torture when I was leaving. But no, here, honestly, Irish winters are like, cold, but, like, on the mild side of cold by, like, by proper American winter standards. But we did, I did come back the day before one of the worst storms Ireland's had in a long time, so.

[Kristen Joy]

Oh, that's right. I heard on your podcast you're talking.

[Des Bishop]

Storm EO and they were calling Ewan. Ewan. It was a weird E O. I'd never seen it.

[Dez Bishop]

E O W a N W A N Ewan. So when you have this storm, did it snow in Dublin?

[Des Bishop]

No snow, just. It was basically. Some parts of Ireland basically experienced a hurricane. We had a show that night and then we thought the warning was going to be later. But anyway, in the end it was a bit hairy. People started leaving at like 10 o'clock. I thought, oh, I'm bombing here. But actually people started getting, people started getting warnings on their phone. Now that was like, that was an hour and 15 minutes into the show. So it wasn't an issue. But I, I, I, I did notice some people walking out, but I just wasn't paying any attention. I was just like, ah, they're probably stressed about the storm. But then when I got off stage, Stephen Mullen. My opener was like, bro, we gotta go, bro. I think we might have to. Maybe we have to get a hotel because I was driving back to Tough. But we made it back, but it was actually, it was a little hairy. I actually hydroplaned a little bit twice. Not, not crazily, but just like enough that like, you're like, oh, yeah.

[Dez Bishop]

Yes. Everybody's got that friend who freaks out about the weather, right? The weather. Chrissy's my friend who does that. I'm, I'm Astrid's friend who does that. The Only time that I've been to. To Dublin, which is just a beautiful city. The only time that I have been to Dublin was the worst snowstorm they had experienced in decades. And the entire city shut down. It was like a foot of snow. We got the last plane. We were the last plane to land at the airport before the airport got shut. Three days. And we took taxi. We were all standing waiting for these brave taxi drivers who were going to drive us into the city and get us to the hotel. That car was moving from lane to lane without any effort whatsoever. It was just sliding all over the place. The poor driver had no idea how to drive in the snow. Astrid and I were shitting ourselves in the back of this taxi cab ride and we ended up getting stuck at a hotel. Everybody, people were sleeping on the floor. They were trying to feed them and give them water. This happened. We were. This went on for, like. Like, I don't know, four days. We were stuck in this hotel.

[Des Bishop]

Ireland doesn't. Ireland doesn't get a lot of snow. So. Actually they don't. They don't deal with it well at all.

[Dez Bishop]

As a dumb American, I just made the assumption when we were flying in and I was seeing all these alerts, I just made the assumption, oh, they know what to do with snow. It's Ireland.

[Des Bishop]

Very rare.

[Dez Bishop]

Had no idea.

[Des Bishop]

I mean, we get. You get dustings and. But, like, honestly, all you need here is an inch and like, everything shuts down.

[Kristen Joy]

Oh, like Atlanta.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, it's like Atlanta, Yeah. Everything.

[Des Bishop]

No, all the way.

[Dez Bishop]

All the way.

[Des Bishop]

They were talking in the south about the snow coming because I did have to cancel. What am I talking about? I had to cancel a show in Charlotte because of it. I ended up doing the Saturday, but they shut it down even though they ended up really not having any snow that night. Yeah, but I. I was. They basically deal with snow the same way in Atlanta where you are, as they do in Ireland. There's no.

[Dez Bishop]

Shut it down. Yeah, shut it down. And the only thing that was open were the bars. And so that's what we did. We walked to the point.

[Des Bishop]

It's kind of fun, though. And it's kind of fun and it's kind of pretty, you know, it's a pretty city in the snow and, you know.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah.

[Dez Bishop]

So let me. So I. On your Instagram, you're going a little viral right now because you have a hot take. Not to say a hot take. It's just a take on Mr. Musk's wave to the crowd at the inauguration. How? Tell Me. Give me your, like, just a little dissertation on how you feel about Elon Musk in general.

[Des Bishop]

Well, I mean, like this. There's something going on with the guy, right?

[Dez Bishop]

Because he's a little loony.

[Des Bishop]

Well, he's become, like, insanely obsessed with, like, the MAGA agenda. And listen, you want to, you know, you like Trump and you like maga. I think that's fine. But I agree, he's the only. I don't, by the way.

[Dez Bishop]

Well, I mean, I don't agree with the politics. I agree that it's your right to support.

[Des Bishop]

No, no, no, I know, but I was just. I was just clarifying that because I actually. I got attacked on TikTok. I had, like, a very, like, centrist take about just the way the Internet works. I wasn't even really taking a position, but I still got attacked for having. For. For not. I actually got attacked for basically, like, not taking a stand. Anyway, Elon Musk, we get it all the time.

[Dez Bishop]

I get it all the time. I can't. You can't win for losing.

[Des Bishop]

You just can't win. So. But the thing about Elon is he's the. He. He's the only insanely wealthy billionaire or those high, high billionaire group that's just gone all in. A lot of them, obviously, right now they're pandering, they're Cowtown, they're Trump. But he's just admitted his whole personality. He's tweeting all day, and there's just something not quite right. And I'm sorry, but I can't get behind supporting the AfD in Germany, and I think it's all a bit dangerous and whatever. Agree, Right.

[Dez Bishop]

I agree. Yeah. So.

[Des Bishop]

So the rest of the take is that. So all that aside, that I was already like, what's going on with this guy? And just, like, the misinformation that he puts out or just like, just like the simplistic what about ism? That's just, like, so not helping the debate. It's just so indicative of the problem, you know?

[Dez Bishop]

You're so right.

[Des Bishop]

And then he. He. I literally think he was trolling. I think it's not. It's not a safe way to troll. I think it's, like, really a problematic way to troll because I think he knew what he was doing, and I think he just kind of thought it would be hilarious to sort of, like, do it in a way where he could try to say that he wasn't. And it was just like, listen, he owns a platform that thrives on this type of conflict, you know, and so for me, it's like. Like you're one of the smartest guys in the world. You're incredibly wealthy, incredibly successful. Like, it would require the most incredible stupidity to not know that. It's just, like, the one thing that you don't do unless you wanted to, or if you really were that dumb, to do it stupidly in that way, that you wouldn't immediately come out and be like, you know, I got excited and I'm just not great at, like, showing love because I didn't come from the hip hop community or something, you know, but he didn't even do that, which shows me that he's trolling, whether he's. And the whole thing is that everyone jumps on it. You're saying he's a Nazi. It's like. No, I. I mean, I'm not really saying he's a Nazi. I mean, he's showing, like, fascist tendencies or like, he's showing, like, to be at least slightly enamored with fascism. I don't mean fascism like Hitler Nazis. I mean fascism historically. Okay. Because there's been many, you know, Pinochet, Franco, you know, there's been plenty of Stalin, you know, and there's across all sort of, you know, parts of, like, economic belief systems, there has been fascism. So I'm not saying, oh, he's like Hitler, even though he happened to do the Hitler salute. But he has been flirting with. With fascism. But I don't think he's really like a Nazi. But I do think that he was trolling.

[Dez Bishop]

Part of me wonders, and I agree with you on this. I don't think he's, you know, I don't think he's a Nazi. Right. I don't think that's, like, I don't believe that about Elon. I believe that he is trying to be the most retweeted guy that particular day on his own platform. And he's trying to say to other, you know, the other side of the aisle, fuck you, we can do what we want. We're back in power. You know, take that. That essentially, and then I can just kind of excuse making it away. But what concerns me about Elon in general is that he seems to be losing his mind a little bit. He's tweeting hundreds of times per day.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, that. I agree with you.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, he's at the. He's at the inauguration. Clearly he's done something. Ketamine X. I'm not sure what it is. His eyes are rolling in the back of his head. He's swirling around. So I think this guy is just kind of deep in his own, like his own bubble and there's nothing to pop it. And now he has come into power with this movement that has no intention of checking him whatsoever. And so I worry that he gets more delusional and the people that, that follow him or encourage this type of like rabble rousing are then the also the people that are in power. So now we're all just kind of losing our minds collectively. And there's no way to decipher truth from fiction because everything is excuse make the way and everything is just really, you're like you said, what about ISM defeats all common sense. And I am also kind of a centrist and I think I feel like this kind of behavior is super dangerous and I don't know, like, I believe in his right to free speech and all that other shit. But I was saying on the show like there we shouldn't be licking the balls of billionaires. We should be helping to keep them in check to make sure that they don't get out of control and wield some intense power over our government. The government is now for sale out in the fucking open and Elon is the one that's buying it. And it drives me up a wall that everyone out there on his own platform is just excuse making this kind of behavior. And you know, almost like God worshiping him. He's really seemed to have lost it down a ketamine hole or something.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, I mean, he definitely has. Yeah, he has some hero worshiping going on because, you know, you can see by the comments like some people are just immediate annoyed. Now the, the one, I guess, like slightly, I don't know what put my mind at ease a little bit, is within a couple of days like a calmer, more honest analysis of what went down came out. But just like the fires in la, just like all the big stories, the first two days are everybody jockeying for position. Yeah, on the biggest take. And the biggest takes often rely on just fake news. Yeah, I agree Trump's favorite term, but he only cares about fake news related to him. He doesn't care about fake news related to anything else. But again, I'm not even just singling out Trump there, I'm singling out everybody. Everybody's using just quick takes that have not been researched. So the first two days of all stories I find are like, not where the information is. You calm down. Like even Shane Gillis I saw had like a nuanced take on Elon he literally said, because, like, you know, Shane doesn't take actually hard political positions. I like Shane's take on a lot of things. And I could see a lot of the. What do they call it? There's a. Oh, the. But anyway, the bro sphere, you know.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, the bro sphere. Gas fear.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, that sphere. Yeah. I think largely was immediately taken the. Because they. They like, there's a trolldom there that they like, which is like, oh, this will irritate all the woke people that Elon did this. But eventually, like, even somebody like Shane Gills is like, it's hard to defend. Like, you gotta, like, it's all well and good to be like, what are you talking about? Of course I wasn't given the Nazi salute. Well, it's like, well, then apologize, because it clearly is.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Des Bishop]

And then the other thing I want to say is that a lot of Jewish groups came out saying he's a big supporter of Israel and he's clearly not a Nazi. And it's like, okay, I'll 100% accept that. However, you're just making the assumption that his target of hate isn't a whole new crop of people, you know.

[Dez Bishop]

That's right.

[Des Bishop]

Just because he's down with the Jews and Israel doesn't mean that he's not going to other a bunch of people and use the fascist handbook, which is we have an enemy within and we need to destroy it for the purity of our nation.

[Dez Bishop]

That's right.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah.

[Dez Bishop]

Vulnerable people become the enemy of populism. Right then. That has always been the case throughout time. That's how you gather power. That's how you roll in. That's how you get the snowball rolling. And it's clear that's what's happening. So while I support anybody's right to vote for anybody, including Trump, while I may not like him personally, I support your right to vote for him. I absolutely do. I get concerned when the entire movement is based on demonizing groups of people. And on the other side also, by the way, it happens on the other side also. And I just think that it's a. It's like an unhealthy, dangerous place to be. And Elon seems to be the guy with the biggest.

[Des Bishop]

And I had. I had a bee in my bonnet. Old school trip. I had a bee in my bonnet. I had a bee in my bonnet with Elon anyway.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, I had to be in my.

[Des Bishop]

Bonnet with Elon anyway, because he literally. I don't know if people were paying attention, but he was trying to rewrite the history of Hitler, which, that actually, that I had a. I had my antenna out for him, to be honest, which is why I had a big reaction to the salute, because he did actually try to say, oh, Hitler was actually a leftist. And he was trying to say that because it's obviously, you know, socialism is in the, the Nazi title. You know, he was trying to use that. That, like, already, like, it's just so. It's not even that it's debunked. It was just, it was never real. Trying to argue that, like, Hitler was a socialist. I mean, his main enemies were communists and, you know, like, you're looking at the 1930s and trying to compare the way society breaks down today and then trying to make it seem like Hitler aligns with today's left. Like, not a chance. It was, it was literally rewriting history, trying to sort of like, fob Hitler off on the left. Like, it's insane.

[Dez Bishop]

A lot of people are trying to do this Tucker Carlson, and a lot of people are bringing on apologists and saying that, you know, it's, Listen, it's, It's such a complicated mess. And, and, and I agree with your, Your point of view. I think Elon is trolling and I think Shane is right. If, if it's. If, if you're not in fact saluting the Nazis, then do us all a favor and just say I'm sorry.

[Des Bishop]

Just say I'm sorry. That's all. How hard is that?

[Dez Bishop]

High as shit on ketamine and ayahuasca. And I didn't know what I was doing. That's that.

[Des Bishop]

But let's play. They've been flirting. Trump flirted with them. You know, he couldn't come out hard in Charlottesburg. And they'll say, oh, he was misquoted about the both sides. But he just, he always has a hesitancy to come out hard against the extreme right. I, I don't need him to come out hard against Ben Shapiro or even Charles Kirk for that matter. I don't need him to come out hard against them. But like, people marching, you gotta come out strong. Yeah. So this isn't the first time that they've given little, little signals. Oh, and can I just add. I know, please. Not that political, but Enrico Tario. Enrico Tario gets, gets out of prison, right? And then he's on these interviews in his. Fred Perry. Like, they have a uniform, the proud boys, they have a uniform. And he's in there on his uniform, you know, and you're just like, guys, how can you not see that? This is like fascist behavior.

[Dez Bishop]

Of course it is. Of course it is. And listen, we could go down the line. You know, this is. Not that we don't. We typically are not a political podcast, but we say things. I like to say things when I think it's just obviously makes sense pragmatically that you need to check the far. The extremes on both sides in the aisle, and you need to come out and say, like, Trump, I'm with you. I wish he would just check them. Like, just check them because. But he knows that they vote. And that's the thing, is that he is looking to consolidate any vote that he can get anywhere. I said this when Trump was running. Trump will say anything to anybody any day or time, left or right, liberal or conservative, if he thinks that's going to get him a vote in the moment. Because memories are short and people forget and they're willing to overlook as long as he's talking to you for that moment. And that's the truth. And that's. Listen, a lot of politicians have done that throughout time, but what I think makes this different is that there are a bunch of people around Trump who are. They're leaning into his worst urges, and that allows him to lean into his worst urges. And now we're kind of in this shit show. And it does look a little fascist to me for sure now. Like, we're laying people off because they're black. I mean, like, you know, we have to call in if somebody we think was a DEI hire. Did you hear that one? It's like. It's just. It's fucking insane to me what's going on. We can debate the policies about DEI or equal opportunity or all that. We can debate that all day long. But that debate should happen in the halls of Congress or in our city halls or in our own workplaces. There shouldn't be forced, like fascism, essentially. Like, you have to call your brother or sister out if you think that they've, you know, been the. Been promoted because of some policy. So that we can.

[Des Bishop]

Are they doing that?

[Dez Bishop]

Yes, they are. It's got to look that one up. Yeah. This is insane. So, okay, so let's move away from politics just for a second, because we're. I can. I will go on. Go. I could go on all day long, and I don't want to. I don't want to lean into my worst impulses. So. So let me ask you this. Last time we saw you, you were. I. If I'm not mistaken, you were in the Hamptons.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, West Hampton. Yeah.

[Dez Bishop]

And a renovation was going on in one of your apartment. Was it going on in your apartment downtown?

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, because that's when we talked to Hannah.

[Dez Bishop]

We talked to Hannah. And then you were like hiding in the Hamptons because you guys were doing a renovation or something. Is that right?

[Des Bishop]

That's probably some excuse we had for.

[Dez Bishop]

Just being in the Hamptons.

[Des Bishop]

We haven't done any renovation.

[Kristen Joy]

Oh, maybe it was a renovation next door.

[Dez Bishop]

Maybe it was a renovation next door.

[Kristen Joy]

Like the downtown apartment, maybe.

[Dez Bishop]

Saying we're supposed to.

[Des Bishop]

We're supposed to do a renovation, but we're procrastinating. But there was probably a re. There was probably a reason. Well, actually, cuz, you know, there's always. The building's old, so there's always somebody doing work. So she might have been rushing out. Out. Because it was about to get loud.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, she was very lovely, actually.

[Des Bishop]

But we had just bought the house in West Hampton. That was when I was talking to you. We just got that place, actually.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, Hannah was outside playing or doing tennis.

[Dez Bishop]

Oh, yeah, that's right. She was. So. So here's my question. So do you have a place in Ireland also?

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, I still have the house that I've had for. Since 2005.

[Dez Bishop]

Oh, really?

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dez Bishop]

So you guys are like mini real estate moguls?

[Des Bishop]

Well, you know, well, I had. I had a place in Dublin and a place in New York and then we met and Hannah, you know, Hannah's done. All right. So she, she got a place. So anyway, you know, it sounds better. Trust me. None of them are fancy.

[Dez Bishop]

All right.

[Des Bishop]

The West Hampton one is a little fancy. Yeah, but.

[Dez Bishop]

Okay, let's be honest.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, but that was an ups. That was a good for you guys. That was. My family always had like a small little house there. So we, we, we up.

[Dez Bishop]

We upgraded it. Yeah, just a little bit.

[Des Bishop]

We upgraded so it seems fancier than it is in terms of. We did. It didn't. We didn't start from zero, you know.

[Kristen Joy]

Well, Chrissy, enjoy the success.

[Dez Bishop]

He has three houses across two continents and we have yet to be invited to either of them. Especially not the West Hampton one, which here is.

[Kristen Joy]

I know why he's not inviting us to the West Ham.

[Dez Bishop]

I wouldn't invite me to the West Hamptons either. I keep my shoes on. Do you. Do you enjoy the Hampton? Tell me, do you enjoy the Hamptons? Is it. You've lived there since. I mean, you've been there since. Obviously since you were a child. Is it. Is it fun times? Is it good times over there?

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, so we're in West Hampton. So it's really not like the Hamptons that people have in their head.

[Dez Bishop]

What's the difference? Well, for those who don't know geographically.

[Des Bishop]

It'S just the first one. Some people in the Hamptons property don't consider it the Hamptons. They say you need to be east of the Shinnecock Canal. So you don't get the people that want to be in the Hamptons to be seen. You don't get the sort of aspirational people, but you do. You do get some fancy people, but there are people that aren't interested in that nonsense of, like, we're in the Hamptons, but. But like, you, you're at the beach and the village is so cute. And it has everything that the Hamptons. Hamptons is supposed to have. It just. It doesn't have the status. Hungry people, you know? Yeah, that's. So it's, it's, it's. It's quite nice. By the way, it's also quite a bit cheaper than that part of the Hamptons. So I do want to point out that I'm not just. I'm not just saying it as if to make it seem like we're not fancy. Like it's really not the same.

[Dez Bishop]

You know, Jaz's next door neighbor is not Howard Stern. That we're just making that clear right now. Howard is. Howard is not on that side of the.

[Des Bishop]

But however, Eli Manning is on our side of the canal. He doesn't live exactly near us, but. And Anderson Cooper is on our side of the canal.

[Dez Bishop]

Oh, look at Anderson.

[Des Bishop]

And Susan Lucci is in my village.

[Dez Bishop]

Oh, I like Susan Lucci. I know she's down there.

[Des Bishop]

Do you Gen X. Gen X. People love Susan Lucci.

[Kristen Joy]

Exactly.

[Des Bishop]

In fact, the dressing room in the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts center is called the Susan Lucci Room.

[Kristen Joy]

No.

[Unknown]

Oh, it is. Oh, yeah.

[Dez Bishop]

Look at that.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. And my mother was a big. All my children watch, of course.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, that's right. She was on that show forever.

[Kristen Joy]

And she didn't win for Forever.

[Des Bishop]

Forever.

[Dez Bishop]

That was the whole thing about Susan Lucci. She never won a Daytime Emmy for anything, did she?

[Des Bishop]

Which is ridiculous. Erica. Erica Kane. Great character. Great character.

[Kristen Joy]

Yes, yes.

[Dez Bishop]

My story. I gotta watch my story.

[Kristen Joy]

My grandmother used to say that we.

[Dez Bishop]

Used to have this lady that worked at the radio station where we worked at. And there was a break room. The break room had a tv. And there's this. An old. This is an older black woman. She was probably in her 70s. She was like in the accounting department in, like, clockwork. She would sit down at noon or 11 or whatever it was. And if you went up there into the break room, you would see her watching her stories. Her stories. And she would say, don't turn my stories. I'm watching my stories. I always thought that was. That was so cute. What do you watch when you're on the road? Go ahead.

[Des Bishop]

It's so funny that you asked me that, because I was about to answer that question without you asking.

[Dez Bishop]

That's crazy. We have.

[Des Bishop]

I have a reason, though. Were you gonna say, what do I watch when I'm on the road?

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

Well, I'm obsessed with severance right now.

[Kristen Joy]

Oh, severance. I know. I went.

[Dez Bishop]

Re.

[Kristen Joy]

Watched the whole first season.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. But the thing is that I was triggered because you said. And she was in the break room. And my immediate thought wasn't about, like, a break room at work. It was the torture chamber.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah. Which they've now changed.

[Des Bishop]

Don't. No spoilers.

[Dez Bishop]

Okay. Okay. I won't say a word about the new season, but I have to tell you this. So we are on the Odyssey Network. That's our podcast network. So is the Severance podcast podcast really good? The companion podcast. So I got a chance to. To do some reads, and for the. For the Severance podcast, it. The Severance is such a good show. It's so well crafted. If you haven't started season two, there's only two episodes. You will not be disappointed. I am obsessed with this show, and I'm obsessed with all of the, like, you know, rumors and theories and the, like. I'm online. There's a whole thing.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, yeah. I'm. I'm deep, deep in it. Actually, their podcast that you mentioned has been so fascinating to me because not only did I sort of. Of, I rewatched the show along with the podcast, which was great.

[Dez Bishop]

Yes.

[Des Bishop]

But. But beyond that, beyond the show, you learn a lot about, like, filmmaking and casting and creativity. Like, you learn so much about, like, the crafts associated with making a film. You know, like, the artists that. That. That make, you know, the different things that they use, the. The props that they use. Like, it's really fascinating to. Particularly with Ben Stiller, the detail that goes into creating this world. And, you know, every now and then, just. You just get a perfect combination of cast and story and director. And I think this has the potential. Obviously, plenty of shows have disappointed long term.

[Dez Bishop]

Agreed.

[Des Bishop]

But currently, it has the potential to go down as one of the great shows of all time, in my opinion.

[Dez Bishop]

It's so fascinating if the first two episodes. Yeah. There's so many moving parts, but they are so beautifully crafted and acted and the. Like, the. The. I don't. I'm not. I'm not gonna talk about it because you haven't watched it yet, but it is just such a great show, and I think it deserves all of.

[Des Bishop]

Into the part that I've watched everything, by the way. I meant for the listener.

[Dez Bishop]

The spoilers were for the listeners.

[Des Bishop]

I've watched the latest episode twice already.

[Kristen Joy]

I know, right? No, I watched them all twice.

[Dez Bishop]

I just finished it this morning. I just finished the second episode this morning. I'm just in love with that show. The part that's a little bit disappointing to me is that, you know, Severance is getting a big marketing push right now.

[Des Bishop]

Yes.

[Dez Bishop]

But because of kind of the, like, the disparate nature of cable and streaming and all this, I don't think Severance has the kind of audience that say, a Breaking Bad did or thinks that fractured. Yeah. So I so encourage everybody to go watch Severance. I had a friend who was like, oh, watch Severance. I just didn't understand it. I'm like, you're not supposed to understand. You're not supposed. Supposed to understand everything. That's not the point.

[Kristen Joy]

For the first time back three years ago, and I was like, whoa, this is depressing. And, like, I didn't know what to make of it. But after about the third one was.

[Dez Bishop]

The third episode, you got into it.

[Kristen Joy]

Third. Fourth episode was when I was like, whoa, I can't wait to see what happens next. Then when you start to kind of. Because it's so different.

[Des Bishop]

It takes three Fs.

[Kristen Joy]

It's so different.

[Des Bishop]

But it requires. It's a complicated story, and it requires those.

[Dez Bishop]

Those.

[Des Bishop]

Those first two apps.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

But the thing is that even in the first two apps. Yes. There's a lot going on, and it's a bit slow, and you're trying to figure it out, but even within those apps, you're just in this insane world that is just fascinating on its own.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah. Just from the concept of it.

[Des Bishop]

Visually stimulating.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

And. And mentally stimulating. To try to figure out what's going.

[Dez Bishop]

On, you know, in the second episode, how the heli. Is. Is Helly is walking through the glass hallway. Yeah, it is. Abs.

[Des Bishop]

That's visually amazing.

[Dez Bishop]

So visually stunning. It's amazing. I just absolutely loved it. Let me have you watched the show. Say nothing.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, yeah. You're taught. This is. This is a. This is a controversial show.

[Dez Bishop]

Is it a con that's I wanted to ask you how it was received. How did you.

[Des Bishop]

It's. It's received differently in different communities.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

You know.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

No, I have to tell you that I know Jerry Adams and I. I have interviewed him.

[Dez Bishop]

What?

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. So I'm. I'm gonna go on the record right now and say that it's a bit of a hit job on Jerry Adams. And I'm not saying that some of the. Like, the Troubles was very complicated. You're, of course, say nothing is. Is about a very complicated time in history. And there's a lot about.

[Kristen Joy]

For those of us that don't know, what is it about?

[Dez Bishop]

Okay, so let me just give you.

[Des Bishop]

We need five episodes, man. Give me your take on. Give me your take first.

[Dez Bishop]

Here's my take. As someone who know who grew up at the end of the Troubles, and as someone who. My family watched a lot of the news about the Troubles, but I was not.

[Kristen Joy]

What is the Troubles?

[Dez Bishop]

The Troubles is the Irish Protestant, Catholic. The UK government against the separatists. The people who want. The people who wanted independence. The Nationalists.

[Des Bishop]

But in the North. In the north of Ireland.

[Dez Bishop]

In the north of Ireland.

[Kristen Joy]

Okay, we're hearing about this.

[Dez Bishop]

So this is specifically. This show follows the history of one woman who was a part of the ira and she became a manager, an executive in the Iraq. And it's. Then it becomes also like kind of an adjunct story is about a guy named Jerry Adams who claimed he was never in the ira, but then became a politician in the government. And some people thought, well, he's just. He's just a member of the ira. And he kept claiming, no, no, no, I'm not. But apparently, or according to this movie, it makes Jerry seem as if he was directing a lot of violence during these Troubles, that he was a part of it, that he was directing it, that he had his hand in it. That he. And then it. And I just. Like, we could take five hours to explain this, but let me explain one important part. In the Troubles, there was something called the missing, which were people that went missing, supposedly because they were informers for the. For the UK government against the ira. They were in the ira, but they were ratting out other IRA members. They went missing. And this. Some people got caught up that may have been innocent, and they went missing. So it makes it appear that Jerry Adams directed these people to be missing, quote, unquote. Right. But he has claimed all along that he had nothing to do with it. Not directly. So did I get that right? Kind of.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, sort of. But it's so complicated. But honestly, really, people just need to see it because, like, what happened to Gene McConville is, like, a real tragedy. Like, there's no, like, say Nothing. What say nothing does well is it shows, like, just the tragedy of society breaking down into violence and how really nobody is. Is safe from that, and that the morality as we know it in, like, peacetime gets extremely complicated. Right. What say Nothing does terribly is it kind of suggests that certain injustices, of which there were many throughout Irish history and many throughout the microcosm of Irish history, which is the Troubles, there were many injustices. And in the end. And, like, why does one injustice get more attention than another unless there's a political motivation behind it, which is, in my opinion, is dangerous, because if you know the history, it's better to watch. So I'll just give this sort of, like, yeah, take for the end of it, if you know the history. Right. Ending the Troubles was very complicated, and it took a lot of political will to get the peace process over the line to sign the Good Friday Agreement in 1998.

[Dez Bishop]

Right.

[Des Bishop]

And part of that Good Friday Agreement was the sense of that we all have to accept that there has been horrible things that have happened throughout the process, and we need to try to find a way forward. And then when they took the case against Jerry Adams over the gene McConville and the missing because of the Boston tapes, which is its own controversy in itself, but without even getting into the recordings, the fact that they decided to go after him for that specifically was so dangerous because it's like, oh, so how come we're not relitigating almost all of the past, except for this one thing? And this guy happens to be the guy that's the head of Sinn Fein, and they're getting powerful in the Republic. Republic of iron. Because at that time, Sinn Fein was really starting to get powerful in the south as well as in the North. You know, like, why is it just we go after him and again, I know Jerry Adams, but I am no great defender. I've never understood why he keeps denying that he's in the ira. I think it's really just a You. I'm never going to admit it now, but, like, everybody. Everybody knows that he was. You know, like, it's not that. That part's not even that controversial because everyone knows that he was, but he just does that for whatever reason that that's for. Fine. Right. But, like, why that one was okay to relitigate, but not all the other ones. And that's so dangerous because you have a situation where, like, peace is so delicate. Delicate because everyone's pissed off. Everybody has grievance. On every side of the community, there is grievance.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

But now you're going to allow one grievance to surface because you can actually just bring everybody's grievances back in and then we're back to square one. So I thought that was a bit irresponsible, the court case that happens late in the. In the series. Say nothing.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

However, what I will say is that it's an exceptionally good series about that. The. The worst part of the troubles. And you'd be hard pressed to criticize anything from, like, the first five or six episodes. And. And it's very intense.

[Dez Bishop]

Yes.

[Des Bishop]

Watching the suffering of Dolores Price and her sister. And it's very intense watching them have to do things that in hindsight are up. And a lot of it's up. I mean, the bomb is up, you know, but like. But they don't feel bad about the bomb, you know. But anyway, like, you know, it's. It's a great series. Just the last two episodes are high.

[Dez Bishop]

Have reconciled.

[Des Bishop]

I have a big problem with them. And I did a bit of research on it, and like, the people behind the Boston Tapes, particularly Ed Maloney, you know, he's written a lot of different histories of the ira, but he was very against the peace process and he was very against Jerry Adams. And here's the thing that. The thing, it really makes it seem like there was like, a divide down the middle of people that. That didn't want the peace process, people that didn't. Like, that's just not. That's, like. That's not a fair reflection. It doesn't Even mention Martin McGinnis, who's Jerry Adams partner in all this, who's like. He was like, officially the leader of the Derry Brigade of the ira. He wasn't hiding that he was the leader of the ira. He's not even mentioned in. In the whole thing. So it's not even like, good history because to. To really go at Jerry Adams and a lot of people don't like Jerry. Ad I'm sure there was a lot of people that were delighted with the way that Jerry Adams was. Was. Was tarnished there. But, like, they go after Jerry, they don't Even mention Martin McGinnis as also part of the. The peace process part. Not the Gene McConville part, but the peace process part. Like, Martin McGinnis is like, front and center on all that. So the last two episodes yeah, yeah. The last two episodes are, like, a little bit agenda driven, but honestly, the first six, I would say, is one of the better shows about.

[Dez Bishop]

I thought it was some of the best television that I have watched in a long time. So well acted, beautifully scripted, terribly stressful to watch, but intense, dramatic, interesting. And as I. I don't. I mean, they. They make it pretty clear this is a dramatization of things that really happens that Jerry Adams has never admitted being in the ira. They say that clear, but that kind of. That's a little bit of a scapegoat. And I understand what you're saying that that kind of gives them some creative liberties, but it also puts in the mind of the watcher that Jerry Adams is guilty as. Right. And so.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, but I mean, Jerry Adams is guilty as in the sense that, like, we all. Like, like, because this is the problem, because the series makes it. The series kind of, like, slowly goes into this, like, unsolved mystery type series, right? Yes, but, like, that's not what's happening.

[Dez Bishop]

No.

[Des Bishop]

In the North.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

The truth is that the north is about, like, truth and reconciliation. It's not about unsolved crimes. You know, so, like, it's becomes a series about, like, an unsolved mystery.

[Dez Bishop]

And in real.

[Des Bishop]

In real terms, that's not what's going on. Because everybody knows that Jerry Adams denies being in the ira. When they say that. That he's denying being in the ira, it makes it seem like he's saying he wasn't involved in this. Like, we all know he was involved in this.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, yeah, like, we know, but I agree with you. Like, the peace process is hard, and so you ha. At some point you have to put a pin in it and say, okay, we're gonna do our best to move forward. It's the same thing that happens in any war. And any, you know, conflict is. At some point, it conflicts in your relationship with your wife or your husband. At some point you have to say, okay, we. We. We did each other dirty on this one.

[Kristen Joy]

Right?

[Dez Bishop]

We said some shitty things to each other. Let's kiss and make up and can you give me a hand job? You know, I mean, listen, that's. That's the way that. That's the way that it works.

[Des Bishop]

But it was a. It's a horrible 30 years for nothing, you know, like. Yeah, it's.

[Dez Bishop]

That's actually for nothing.

[Des Bishop]

It's an interesting. It's an interesting sort of loop. Back to what we were talking about before is that, like, people take for granted, like, civil Society holding, you know, like, people in, you know, like, Ireland, even the north of Ireland, like, Ireland's had quite a violent history. But, like, in the 1950s in the north, there was sectarianism. Like, there was bad being done to Catholics. Like, there. It wasn't an equal society. But even amidst, like, the fight for civil rights, that actually was the precursor to the Troubles, nobody could have imagined that this would lead to 30 years of violence. Like, 30 years of instability, of people being. People being moved out of their houses. And, like, nobody could have imagined that. And nobody could imagine that still to this day, the city is divided. Like, there's literally a peace wall. And that's what I think. Sometimes when people are just so haphazard with antagonistic language, and then our leaders are haphazard with antagonistic language, it's like, it can break down. It's not as.

[Dez Bishop]

It's not as solid as you think.

[Des Bishop]

Exactly.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

So you gotta be careful.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah. It just takes a spark, right? It takes one spark. It. The. The snowball gets rolling downhill. And that can come from. People need to be careful with their words and certainly with their actions, especially when they have a platform. And I think this. Like, this conversation has. You know what surprised me? This conversation has been a lot more interesting than I.

[Des Bishop]

Well, actually, can I just. Just since we're talking about watching stuff. If you actually want to watch a movie about the hunger strikes, you know, because the.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, yeah, I do.

[Des Bishop]

Twelve. Twelve IRA men, you know, died.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

But the. It's called Hunger. Michael Fassbender plays Bobby Sands. He was the first guy to die in a hunger strike. And it's very good. Very intense.

[Dez Bishop]

It's hunger. Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

Just.

[Dez Bishop]

Just one word. Hunger.

[Des Bishop]

Hunger. And it's.

[Dez Bishop]

I'm gonna watch it.

[Des Bishop]

But it's. It's very intense, though.

[Dez Bishop]

Okay, I'm ready for it.

[Des Bishop]

This is not like. Honey, you want to watch something fun.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah. I mean, this is a movie.

[Des Bishop]

This is a movie about a man starving himself to death in similarly gory detail. As they did with Dolores Price.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, that Dolores Price. Those three episodes were highly intense. It's her and her sister, they go to jail and they go on a hunger strike for their civil rights. And. And it is. Some of those scenes are some of the most intense watching. But the overall, the show, I think, is well deserved. The kudos that they're getting is well deserved for the acting and for the story making and for the cinematography. It's just really well done. I'll put it on the list. And the bishop exchange is now available anywhere that you can find your. Join the congregation. It's available anywhere you find your podcast. DEZ is currently on tour over there across the pond. But are you. I assume you're making your way back to the States for another round.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, yeah, right. Back in March. I'm back. Long Island, Phoenix, Denver. I got a lot of shows. They're all. They're all on my website. I need to land Atlanta. I've been. I was in the punchline before, but. Yeah, I haven't. No, I actually didn't sell a lot of tickets, but I feel like I would do better now, so I have to get back there.

[Dez Bishop]

If you come to Atlanta, we will help you sell those tickets.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, great. And we can go live. We can be in the studio together. Oh, that would be awesome. That'll be better.

[Dez Bishop]

So there's a new. There's a new club here called the Helium Comedy Club.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, yeah, that's a chain.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah. Oh, it's a chain.

[Des Bishop]

But they're good.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah. And so they've got some good names in Alpharetta, north of the city. There's some good names that have been playing up there. So check it out. You book the show, we'll help you celebrate.

[Des Bishop]

Actually, I'm overdue. I've had a lot of people asking me, so that'll probably come soon. I'll let you know.

[Dez Bishop]

And you're also welcome to come back here, I hope, sooner rather than later. DEZ is our second second, by the way. You're the second. Only the second guest we have asked to come on twice.

[Des Bishop]

Really?

[Dez Bishop]

Yes. True. Reggie Watts. And you and Reggie Watts. Oh, my God.

[Des Bishop]

Dude, he's my favorite. I don't think a lot of people understand that. The genius of Reggie Watts.

[Dez Bishop]

We do. He is genius. Last time he came out, the second time he came on, he's like. He had a new girlfriend. So we ended up spending about 48 minutes of the hour we were on talking about love. And to hear Reggie Watts talk about love while he is in love was one of the most fascinating conversations we've had in a very long time. He is a genius.

[Kristen Joy]

Also, he sent us Kratom.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah. He sent us drinks.

[Kristen Joy]

So we were all drinking that while we were talking.

[Des Bishop]

Like, I've seen him in three continents. Yeah. I was reading him in Australia, in Europe, and in the United States.

[Dez Bishop]

Do you guys know each other? Have you.

[Des Bishop]

I. I know him, but I. I got to know him originally from watching him and just being, like, mesmerized by what he does.

[Dez Bishop]

You know what we should do Des Bishop, Reggie Watson, the commercial break, all on one. And we can all.

[Des Bishop]

And we've done, we've done a few things together before because. Oh, yeah, I, I, I do have a, like a secret little, a couple of hip hop skills. So I, I, I. And I'm very open to Reggie, his style of, like, improv. And he's such a great guy. I couldn't love that guy more creatively.

[Dez Bishop]

Well, now my wheels are turning. Right now my wheels are turning. I'm going to email you because I've got an idea, an event that we have coming up. And I've got an idea. Maybe Reggie, DEZ and us can be in the studio at the same time. So I'm going to email you.

[Kristen Joy]

Thank you, bishop.

[Dez Bishop]

Desbishop.com I think it is.

[Des Bishop]

I lost dot com. Fuck ezbishop on Instagram.

[Dez Bishop]

Who's sitting on your? Who's sitting on your.

[Des Bishop]

I don't even know.

[Dez Bishop]

How much do they want?

[Des Bishop]

I don't, I, I can't even get to that part, you know? So annoying.

[Dez Bishop]

All right, maybe I'll help you find that out. We'll get that. We'll railroad this guy. They're called, they're, yeah, they just buy up stuff just to have it. Okay, des.bishop.net. he's on tour across the pond to be on tour back here in America. Please check out the Bishop Exchange burner phone, of course, is very popular with the kids, I hear. And tell Hannah we said hello. Des, we love you. We'll see you very shortly.

[Kristen Joy]

Enjoy your tour.

[Des Bishop]

Thank you.

[Dez Bishop]

Thank you.

[Brian Green]

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[Dez Bishop]

Ah Des Bishop. What more is there to say? I love Chrissy. What more is there to say? We talked about American politics. We talk about Irish politics. We talked about Irish politics, then American politics. It was a whole different folk severance. We talked about severance. That's one thing we did talk about. And the non existent renovation that Hannah told us was going on in your apartment there you go, now we know you've been outed, Hannah. You've been outed.

[Kristen Joy]

He was a good deflector for her.

[Dez Bishop]

He was what?

[Kristen Joy]

He had her back?

[Dez Bishop]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristen Joy]

He was like, yeah, well, you know, there's always construction. We mean to renovate, but we haven't yet.

[Dez Bishop]

We meant to get our story straight before I came on, but I didn't talk to her. That's got. That's got to be interesting. Like, Hannah is very success. She does. As a matter of fact, I think she just sold out. Three nights at Radio City Music hall with Giggly Squad, her runaway podcast hit. And so. And DEZ is famous in his own right and much more famous over across the pond. Then they separate for long periods of time. Like he's over there for seven weeks. That's a long time to be without your wife. That's a long time to be without your wife. But it, you know, part of me thinks that might work just fine. I'd love to separate from my family for seven weeks. Just the children, not the wife, just the children. Actually, I think. I think I'd miss them terribly.

[Kristen Joy]

You absolutely would.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah. I go out, you know, I go out of town to a conference or whatever for a day or two, and all of a sudden I'm missing my kids. It's fun. That's fun. It's funny in that way about children and family members is that you think you need a break from them and then you get a break from them and you really don't want the break from them. Yeah, you're instantaneously missing, missing them. So anyway, Dez, lovely human being, des Bishop.net that's where you can get tickets and information about his tour. Also check out the Bishop Exchange with John Bishop and Des Bishop. It's a good podcast. We've listened to the first couple of episodes. They're just getting started. One of the things that they do do is you can actually call in live on their show and they will take your questions right there. More information about that on his social medias. So thanks, Des, for coming in today. We certainly appreciate it.

[Kristen Joy]

I love to talk again.

[Dez Bishop]

Yes. And I believe we'll see Des for a third time. Maybe.

[Kristen Joy]

Hopefully.

[Dez Bishop]

He told us he would. But we'll see. We'll see how it goes after we just talked American politics for an hour.

[Kristen Joy]

He's fascinating. I like hearing his point of view.

[Dez Bishop]

I agree 100%. Listen, everybody's got a point of view. It's okay to share that point of view every once in a while. I Know that the commercial. Commercial break is often a break from all of the regular. But sometimes the percolates and you just want to hear what somebody else has to say. That's it. That's all we're doing here. Just facilitating a conversation.

[Kristen Joy]

Look at us. You look at us.

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, look at us. Look at us. We're the new Rogan. Sure, that won't be happening. All right. Desbishop.net you know what to do. Also, we'd love it if you would check out our website. We have a.comtcbpodcast.com that's where you go to find out more information about the show. All the audio, all the video right there from one location. So if you're. You're a URL kind of person, feel free to dial us up. You can also get your free TCP URL kind of.

[Kristen Joy]

Dude, dial it up on the aoa.

[Dez Bishop]

On the aol, there's a song that my son has been listening to. And in this song, it's got the noises of dial up. Oh, it's like a sound effect. And he goes, dad, that's what phones used to sound like, right? And I go, that's how you used to connect to the Internet. And he said, with that noise. And I go, well, that's a noise it would make. He was very confused about everything.

[Kristen Joy]

It is very confusing.

[Dez Bishop]

I said, that's the noise of computers talking to each other. Of it. And he was like. Like Siri and I. Okay, I'll just put it down. Forget it. Never mind. You'll learn when you're old. You'll hear it in the history books. Yeah, it will be all right. Add the commercial break on Instagram, TCB podcast on Tick Tock. And now every single episode of the commercial break is available on video, usually the same day that it [e-mail] the commercial break. So please go follow us. Subscribe like on your favorite videos. You know what to do. 212-433-3822. That's 212-4333. TCB. Questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas. We take them all. Voicemail or text message. We'll get back to you. Join the conversation. Share if you care. All right, Chrissy, I guess that's all I can do for now.

[Kristen Joy]

I think so.

[Dez Bishop]

I'll say that I love you.

[Kristen Joy]

I love you.

[Dez Bishop]

Best to you. The best you out there. On the podcast you universe. Until next time, we will say, we do say and we must say goodbye.

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[Brian Green]

Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet?

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah, sold it to Carvana.

[Brian Green]

Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.

[Dez Bishop]

The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest over 36 months?

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, no.

[Dez Bishop]

Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.

[Brian Green]

Just like that?

[Dez Bishop]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

No hassle?

[Des Bishop]

None.

[Brian Green]

That is super convenient.

[Kristen Joy]

Sell your car to Carvana and swap. Hassle for convenience.

[Brian Green]

Pickup fees may apply.

[Dez Bishop]

Sa I have it.