TCB Infomercial: Joe List

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Commercial Break – TCB Infomercial: Joe List (Released June 17, 2025)

Introduction

In the June 17, 2025 episode of The Commercial Break titled "TCB Infomercial: Joe List," hosts Bryan Green and Krissy Hoadley welcome comedian Joe List for an engaging and heartfelt conversation. Known for their chaotic yet charming improv-comedy style, Bryan and Krissy delve deep into Joe's extensive career in comedy, his personal life, struggles with mental health, and his journey towards sobriety. This episode offers listeners a blend of humor, candid discussions, and insightful reflections from a seasoned comedian.

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Joe List’s Comedy Career

Joe List, a veteran in the comedy scene with over 25 years of experience, shares his journey from his early days in Whitman, Massachusetts, to performing on some of the most prestigious stages. Bryan Green remarks, “I've watched you perform at Madison Square Garden, and that’s just incredible,” highlighting Joe's significant milestones in his career. Joe discusses his evolution as a comedian, mentioning, “I've been doing comedy for 25 years,” showcasing his dedication and passion for the craft ([14:39]).

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Touring with Louis CK

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around Joe’s experience touring with Louis CK. Joe recounts, “I did his whole world tour. It was insane,” providing a glimpse into the high-paced and luxurious life that touring with a major comedian entails ([15:00]). He reflects on the contrast between performing at a grand venue like Madison Square Garden and engaging in intimate basement bar shows, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of a comedian's life.

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Balancing Parental Life and Comedy

Transitioning from his professional life, Joe opens up about the challenges of balancing a demanding career with family responsibilities. “With the baby, it's been tough, but I love being home,” Joe shares ([19:33]). Bryan empathizes, discussing his own fears about balancing work and being present for his children, creating a relatable dialogue for listeners juggling similar responsibilities.

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Growing Up in Whitman, Massachusetts

Joe reminisces about his upbringing in Whitman, Massachusetts, humorously tying it to the invention of the chocolate chip cookie. “I think I might be the most famous person from Whitman,” he jokes, adding a personal touch to the conversation ([18:06]). This segment provides listeners with a deeper understanding of Joe’s roots and how his background influenced his comedic style.

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Stories About Mice and Pets

The conversation takes a lighter turn as Joe shares amusing anecdotes about dealing with mice in his apartments. He humorously describes his experience with a mouse returning to his home despite his efforts to relocate it: “He just shot directly back into my house like he was home before I was” ([03:09]). These stories highlight Joe’s ability to find humor in everyday situations.

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Meeting His Wife through Comedy

Joe discusses meeting his wife through a roast battle, detailing how they navigated the potentially fraught environment of roasting each other without causing real conflict. “We wrote the jokes together, and she won,” Joe explains ([25:11]). Krissy adds, “Maybe that's how we do our roast,” illustrating the supportive and collaborative nature of their relationship.

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Mental Health and Anxiety

A pivotal part of the episode addresses Joe’s openness about mental health. He talks about his participation in a film about comedians with anxiety, stating, “It's painful to watch myself,” yet acknowledging the importance of sharing these struggles ([28:25]). Bryan connects this to the broader conversation about anxiety, emphasizing, “Anxiety is fear of the future,” and how meditation and therapy have played a crucial role in managing his own anxieties ([30:12]).

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Sobriety and Its Impact

Joe candidly discusses his 12-and-a-half-year sobriety journey, detailing how quitting alcohol has profoundly improved his life and career. “Every aspect of my life improved in every way,” Joe shares ([32:13]). Both hosts relate to his experience, with Bryan reflecting on his own path to sobriety and its positive effects on his personal and professional life.

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New Comedy Special: "Small Ball"

Towards the end of the episode, Joe introduces his latest comedy special, "Small Ball," his fourth hour-long special released on YouTube. “I think this one's better than the last one. I'm really happy about it,” he enthuses ([37:32]). Joe discusses the challenges and advantages of self-distributing his work on platforms like YouTube compared to traditional streaming services like Netflix, highlighting the increased control and immediate accessibility it offers listeners.

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Navigating the Streaming World

Joe and the hosts delve into the complexities of the modern streaming landscape. Joe remarks, “There's less gatekeepers and you can make something with your phone,” acknowledging both the opportunities and challenges that come with self-distribution ([40:03]). They discuss the necessity for comedians to become multifaceted content creators, managing not just their performances but also their online presence and content distribution.

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with heartfelt goodbyes and an invitation for listeners to engage with Joe List's work. Bryan and Krissy encourage the audience to watch Joe's comedy specials on YouTube and follow his podcast, "Tuesdays with Stories with Mark Norman." They also tease upcoming guests and events, maintaining their signature blend of humor and camaraderie.

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Notable Quotes

• Joe List on Touring with Louis CK: “It was the craziest experience of my life.” ([15:48])
• Joe List on Sobriety: “Every aspect of my life improved in every way, countless ways.” ([32:18])
• Bryan Green on Joe’s Comedy Special: “I'm really happy about it.” ([37:32])
• Joe List on Mental Health: “I go to therapy every day, if I could. I just think it's the best.” ([30:40])

This episode of The Commercial Break offers a comprehensive look into Joe List's life, blending humor with deep personal insights. It's a must-listen for fans of comedy podcasts seeking both laughs and meaningful conversations.

Transcript

[Rachel]

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[Joe List]

I think I'm a good dad. I kept having a. I felt like the universe was testing me leading up to being a father. I kept having run ins with other people's children, which is always awkward. Last year I was in a hotel, like a really nice hotel, like a high rise hotel, and I got on an elevator and it was me and a dad and his little boy who's probably two or three. And then the doors closed, we were going down, we stopped at a floor, the doors opened, nobody got off or on. Then the doors closed. And so I said, hey, must have been a ghost. Classic elevator humor. That's not my joke. I didn't write that. That's just an old elevator gag. You guys didn't really laugh. They did not laugh at all. The kids started crying immediately. Just, I was like, hey, it must have been a ghost. And the kid was like, what? And I felt bad for the kid. But then the dad goes, hey, come on. And I was like, pal, your kid is a little bitch. I'm sorry. This is not my fault. You're raising a dork who's afraid of ghosts. It was a jo.

[Brian Green]

On this episode of the commercial break.

[Joe List]

So I, my wife and I, in our old apartment, we live in a nicer place now. We haven't had a mouse yet, but our old apartment, we would get like an annual mouse visit. We'd have a single mouse once every 18 months or something. And the way we got it the first time, I caught one in a humane trap, which is like the tube with the hole, and then you go and let it out. But I did not realize you have to go a mile from your house.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Joe List]

So I just went outside and let him go and he just shot directly back into my house like he was home before I was. And it was, it was raining out that night, so it felt like Shawshank Redemption. Like, I just gave him a shower. I basically just rinsed him off. And so then it took me a while to find him again. And I took him. I finally went a mile and released him really close to a friend of mine's apartment. And I was like, maybe he'll live there, you know?

[Brian Green]

The next episode of the commercial break starts now.

[Joe List]

Yeah, boy. Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend Chris and Joy Hoadley.

[Rachel]

Best of you, Chris Bestie.

[Brian Green]

Brian, dear friend and co host and best to you out there in the podcast universe. Forgot that part. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for joining us on the TCP Infomercial Tuesday with podcaster and comedian Joe. Listen, Joe List is here. We love ourselves a little Joe List, don't we, Chrissy?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yes, we do.

[Brian Green]

Joe List is on his fourth hour long special in five years. Congratulations to him. That's a. That's prolific. Honestly, that's a lot of. That's a lot of comedy to write in just a short amount of time. That special is out on YouTube now, so I'm going to put links in the show. Notes, please go watch it. Also, he does the Tuesdays with stories. I keep on forgetting the name of.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

This podcast, even though I've said, like Tuesdays with Maurice.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah, that's right. Tuesdays with stories instead of Tuesdays with Maury. Yeah, and every time I want to call it something completely different. Anyway, with Mark Norman, also a very popular and funny comedian. They have been doing this podcast since 2013. Chrissy, say what? Almost as long as you know Marc Maron, the other guy that's leaving podcasting. Let's hope this one keeps up. You can find that podcast links in the show notes also. And I had to write a list down because he's on so many podcasts. Ready Mindful Metal Jacket podcasts and the Joe and Renan Talk Movies podcast with Renan Hirschberg. He's also a regular on Robert Kelly's podcast. You know what, dude? So this guy is on five different podcasts.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I think I saw him on Howie.

[Brian Green]

He was on Howie Mandela. I watched that part of that episode and wow, Howie is out there, man. Howie is a wacky motherfucker.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Now, I want to ask him about that.

[Brian Green]

I want to ask Howie to be on his podcast. I think I'd have fun. I couldn't touch him or be near him, but, you know, he's like. You know how he's like. He's OCD germaphobe.

[Joe List]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

And when he touches people, he gets all upset about it, apparently. That's what. That's the thing that he says. That's his whole. That's his whole thing. Anyway, he was also a touring comic with Louise CK when Louise was doing his thing, before he was doing his.

[Rachel]

Thing, you know what I'm saying?

[Brian Green]

Before Louis CK became kind of Persona non grata for certain indiscretions, let's put it that way. But, you know, whatever happened to Louis CK and all that jazz? He's back.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He's touring back.

[Brian Green]

I think I saw he's doing a special. So anyway, that. Also. Another prolific comic of our time at the height of his fame, and Joe was part of that whole not. Let me be clear about this. Let me separate those two in your mind. Joe List went on tour with Louis CK during Luis's heyday. Louis's heyday.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Louise.

[Brian Green]

Louise. I like to say it that way.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I know. I.

[Brian Green]

It's so much fun. Louis CK. Louis CK's heyday. Joe, by all accounts, was no part of Lewis's heyday, if you know what I mean.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, I think he was maybe along for the ride, but not.

[Brian Green]

Not actually riding along. He was along for the ride, but not actually riding along, if you know what we're saying without saying it. I like Joe and I don't want him to get pissed at us. So therefore, I will not ask him anything about that, because that has nothing to do with him. And he probably hates that fucking question, I bet. Or maybe. I don't know, maybe he's addressed it but not on this show. That's 10 years ago. @ this point. Who fucking cares anyway? All right, so let's do this, Chrissy. Let's take a break. And when we get back through the magic of tele podcasting, we're going to make this a quick, quick hit today. We'll have Joe list all of the information in the show notes in case you want to follow up. Please do watch his brand new Special, available on YouTube. Now. Just go down, just open your phone, scroll down, there's a blue little link. And directly after you listen to this show, click on that and listen to his new special. We'll be back.

[Astrid]

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[Rachel]

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[Brian Green]

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[Chrissy Hoadley]

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[Rachel]

Hey, Joe, thank you so much for.

[Brian Green]

Joining us today, Mr. List.

[Joe List]

Yeah, thanks so much for having me. You guys look great. You look very tan, both of you.

[Brian Green]

Well, I look tan because I go to the tanning bed. Chrissy looks tan because that's the lighting we set up for.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I've been at sports events for my.

[Brian Green]

Nephews, so yeah, we get a lot of sun down here in Atlanta all the time, and.

[Joe List]

Oh, beautiful.

[Brian Green]

I have small children, and we just happen to have a pool, also known as the death trap, in the back of our house. And so every day, I get to spend an hour and a half out there desperately trying to save them from dying in my death trap in the back of the house. Joe, you. I saw on your Instagram, were you on the Howe Mandel podcast?

[Joe List]

I was. I just was there a couple weeks ago. Yeah. Had a great time.

[Brian Green]

I'm so fascinated by Howie Mandel and his podcast and his thing. He's like, you know, a germaphobe, but then he, like, loves to play pranks and get dirty and get involved. What was your experience on the Howie Mandel podcast? That's a big podcast, too.

[Joe List]

Yeah, I had a great time. I mean, he has, like. He's like a big business entrepreneur guy. Like, he has a huge space. It's massive. It's similar to, like, Joe Rogan's thing. And he's got. He's invested in these. I don't even know what you call him. I should know because he told me, but it's like. What do you call it? Like, Tupac when they did. You know what I mean? The hologram. Those big hologram things. Yeah, he's got, like, 20 of those. And, like, you can just talk to people, like, celebrities and stuff. It's really insane. It's like an AI. It felt like I went into the future. Yeah.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That's wild.

[Brian Green]

Howie Mandel has a hologram, like, museum, essentially, where you walk in, you're talking to different celebrities in their 3D version.

[Joe List]

Yes. It's crazy.

[Brian Green]

Holy shit.

[Joe List]

And he had somebody. Oh, my God. I can't think of who, like, roasted me. It was. Oh, God damn it. I should remember. It was like, some celebrity person. Oh, it was Adam Ray. That's who it was. It was Adam Ray, the comedian as Dr. Phil. And he was like, hey, Joe List is here. And then Adam, as Dr. Phil was like, hey, nice shirt, you idiot. You look stupid. It was crazy. And. And he's got full band and, like, all kinds of toys and stuff. Yeah, it was awesome.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he's a. He's taken his podcast, and I've only seen a number of episodes, but he's taken his podcast kind of collect a new zany level. I saw the one where he had Billy Corgan and Bill Burr, where there has been a rumor that the two of them are related, they're brothers, and they, like, confronted each Other. And it was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever seen him. I don't know if they were mugging for the camera or whatever, but it was the most uncomfortable thing that I have seen on podcasting. And how he's there for it. He really is. Joe, how long have you been doing comedy for those who may not know Joe List yet?

[Joe List]

Yeah, a lot of people don't know me.

[Brian Green]

Same here. Same here, Joe.

[Joe List]

Yeah, so I've been doing comedy for 25 years.

[Brian Green]

Holy shit.

[Joe List]

Weird to say. Yeah, I started right out of high school, and, yeah, it's been a long, long time.

[Brian Green]

And you traveled around. You were doing quite a bit with Louis CK, is that correct?

[Joe List]

I did, yeah. Back in 2016, 2017. I did his whole world tour. It was crazy. That was when he was still doing, like, massive arenas, which he still does sometimes. But, yeah, it's crazy.

[Brian Green]

What is that experience for you? Like, this massive comedian says, hey, let's do this together. Let's go around the world, and you warm me up.

[Joe List]

It was. It was insane. I mean, first of all, at that time, I had. Before I met Louis, he was, like, my favorite comedian. He was the biggest thing. He's on the COVID of Rolling Stone and appearing at the Oscar. Oscars and the TV show and all that stuff. So he was, like, somebody I idolized. And then we became friendly and then close friends. And at that time, he was flying around in a private jet. Like, a private jet with a waitress on it. And we were staying at, like, the Four Seasons and the Ritz. It was. It was nuts.

[Brian Green]

You are kidding me.

[Joe List]

No, it was crazy. It was the craziest experience of my life. We went all over Europe. We went to, like, Israel, Paris, Vienna. I can't even remember Dublin, London. And had, like, a lady with a little, you know, rectangle hat on the flight, bringing us drinks and steaks. It was. It was wild. It was, like, the most unbelievable experience of my life.

[Brian Green]

That is insane. To be, like, a young comic. You know, I'm sure this is the dream of every comic, is to literally land, you know, in the lap of luxury with the world's biggest comic. I don't think there's too many comics that fly around on. None that have been here at the commercial break, that fly around on private jets and have a waitress inside of the. Inside of the airplane and get to do the world tour. Do you? When you have. When you have that experience, when you're like, oh, my God, we're staying at the Four Seasons, we're flying around the world. We're doing all these experiences, and then you have to, like, kind of fall back to then going and doing the, you know, on your own journeyman type thing. I bet that's kind of a kick in the balls.

[Joe List]

It's definitely weird. I mean, one time I opened for him at Madison Square Garden. Three times I did, actually. And then you just get on the subway and you're on, like, the C train in New York, and nobody has any idea that you've just, you know, performed at Madison Square Garden. So it was weird. And I do remember doing Madison Square Garden and then doing a bar show, like, in a basement bar, like, two blocks from Madison Square Garden the next night. It was called Mustang Sally's. It was like a crappy bar gig. And just in the middle of it being like, I was at MSG a couple days ago, so it's. But it's fun. It, like, adds to the romanticism of comedy, I guess.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. It's kind of put some lure to the history of what you're doing. But that does have to be a strange sensation to be in front of, what is it, 20,000, 25,000 people, and then 15 minutes later, no one knows who you are. You're like, I just played Mandy's Square Garden, and I'm sitting next to the homeless guy. Smells like booze.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Literally. It's definitely a weird thing, but it was an awesome experience. I loved it.

[Brian Green]

Where'd you grow up?

[Joe List]

I grew up in Whitman, Massachusetts, which is about 40 minutes south of Boston and is where the chocolate chip cookie was invented.

[Brian Green]

Oh, no shit.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Really?

[Joe List]

Yeah. Good. True story. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Do tell about the chocolate chip cookie. I'm interested.

[Joe List]

I mean, I had nothing to do with it. Suppose the story is it was a mistake. A woman was making something and spilled. It's like the classic, like, you know, whoopsie. Yeah. And pulled out chocolate chips and a cookie. But I am obsessed with chocolate chip cookies. That's where it's from. And I don't know, I think I might be the most famous person from Whitman. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm.

[Brian Green]

I've. I've never heard of another person from Whitman. But the chocolate chip cookie is, you know, takes the cake as far as fame is concerned, but it's not a person. So you might be the most famous person from Whitman, Massachusetts, and then spent your entire life up there. Are you still living up in that region?

[Joe List]

No, I'm in New York. I've lived in New York City for 18 years, so I Lived in Whitman for. Till I was like, I think, I don't know, 22. And then I moved into Boston for a couple years and then I've been living in New York for 18 years now.

[Brian Green]

Are you always on the road? Is that something that's just part of your life?

[Joe List]

Yeah, I mean, I'm not as on. I have a baby myself now.

[Brian Green]

Congratulations.

[Joe List]

Thank you. 19 months old. So I'm trying to be on a little less, but I try to do it like every other week. So now I'm on the road I don't know, 30 weeks a year where I used to be more like 45 weeks a year or something like that. Yeah, it's like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and I come home for four days. But with the baby, it's tougher because he's the best and I want to be with him.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. You know, I think to myself sometimes and like our agent has said, you know, oh, go out there and, you know, do some shows and do some stand up. First of all, I'm not a stand up. I sit behind a microphone. This is way easier than anything a standup ever does. But the other thing that I always think about is my children. And I've often said this on the show is I'm afraid one of two things is gonna happen. Either I'm gonna be terribly depressed because I'm not around the kids, who, while they're a pain in the ass, really do make me happy, or number two, I'm gonna start to like it. I'm gonna be like, I really like being away from the kids and it makes me a little bit nervous. But at 18 months old, that's a precious age. It's hard to leave an 18 month old.

[Joe List]

Yeah. No, he's the sweetest and he's very attached. He's very into me. No one's ever loved me as much. I always joke, I'm like, I wish my wife loved me as much as the baby that I leave. He's like sobbing. He, you know, he has to be consoled. So it is tough, but, you know, it's. It is nice to sleep in and not carry a baby around for a couple days, but. So it's hard. It's hard to balance. But I love. Yeah, I love being home.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, for sure. You. When you talked about recently on your. I don't know if this is recent or if you pinned it or whatever, you talked about having a mouse in your house. And I really relate to that because I also had a mouse in my house.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, you did.

[Brian Green]

Did you get a cat or did you get an electric trap? Is the question. Which one did you get?

[Joe List]

No, I mean that clip. That's the first time I ever heard of electric trap. I do.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

So I. My wife and I, in our old apartment, we live in a nicer place now. We haven't had a mouse yet, but our old apartment, we would get, like an annual MOUs visit. We'd have a single mouse once every 18 months or something. And the way we got it the first time, I caught one in a humane trap, which is like the tube with the holes, and then you go and let it out. But I did not realize you have to go a mile from your house.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Joe List]

So I just went outside and let him go, and he just shot directly back into my house. Like he was home before I was. And it was. It was raining out that night, so it felt like Shawshank Redemption. Like, I just gave him a shower, I guess. We just rinsed him off. And so then it took me a while to find him again. And I took him. I finally went a mile and released him really close to a friend of mine's apartment. And I was like, maybe you can live there.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, go try this place.

[Brian Green]

That reminds me of my pet rat when I was a kid. And I had to go release it down the street. I got an idea when I was a kid that. I mean, a teenager, there was a lot of people in my, like, this hippie circle of friends that I had. They all started getting pet rats. Like, you know, the kind you buy at a store that save them from the snake or whatever. And the rat would sit on my shoulder, and I had him for, like, I don't know, three months. But my dad abhorred everything about it. He was like, you're not bringing a rat into the house. There's no way they carry diseases. And he said, if that rat gets into the house just once, if I see that rat in the house, you're. That rat is no more. I'm going to kill it myself. And so one night, the rat got into the house. I let it into the house. That's how it got in the house. But it got away from me. And. And so my dad says, you have to do something with that rat. It cannot be anywhere around this house anymore. And in the middle of the night, I had to walk it down the street, and I released it into the sewers. And I'm pretty sure that it didn't last 10 minutes. Cause it was a domesticated rat. It was used to Being fed. What did it know? It probably got eaten by the other more mean rats. I always think about that, Joe.

[Joe List]

I've heard that rats are actually nicer than mice. That's what I've heard.

[Brian Green]

This thing was very sweet. I mean, I hate to say, like, I don't want to Disney fy my relationship with the rat and give it a personality, but it felt to me like we had a connection. Because when I would come around, it would run to me, and then it would jump up on my shoulder. It would just sit there, and I'd feed it. And, you know, I think it was just used to being fed, quite frankly. But it never bit anybody, never attacked it, never did anything like that. We had a mouse attached to the rat down.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That's good.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

It didn't turn into a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle or anything like that. But we had a rat one time, a mouse, here at our house. And here's how I know, is because my wife kept waking up and there'd be fruit on the floor of our kitchen. Like, it'd take from the fruit bowl, and then it'd throw it on the ground, I guess, trying to get it or whatever. And at the time, we had two dogs that were not playing nice with each other. So I put one of the dogs in the kitchen, like, gated it in the kitchen at night to sleep. And I put a camera in there to see if I could catch the mouse. And what I caught was the most unbelievable scene I had ever witnessed with my own two eyes. And that was the rat. The mouse was literally taunting the dog. It was, like, coming up to the dog, sniffing the dog. The dog would wake up, would raise its head. The dog never once barked, never tried to get it, never never moved. A mouse. Just owned. It was like, listen, here, little doggy. I'm gonna take your fruit.

[Joe List]

Well, mice are smart, right? I mean, they've got bendy bones and they're smart or something. I don't know anything about animals.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I don't know anything about animals either.

[Joe List]

Another time I had a mouse, and I killed it by just. This is bad earmuffs if you're very sensitive. But he was running up my hall. I lived at the end of a long hallway in an apartment building. And he was running directly towards me, and I just reacted and kicked it, and it, like, skidded across the thing. It was just. Just dead. I just punted him to death. But he was trying to get in my house. He was gonna try to make love to my wife. I can't have that. So I just. I kicked him, like, you know, Ray Finkel, and he just went flying.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God. That's too funny.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I read that you met your wife through a roast battle. Is that right?

[Joe List]

No, we didn't meet through a roast battle, but we. We met through. But we did roast each other. And it was pretty spicy. It was great. I mean, people see it and they're like, oh, my God, you guys are gonna get divorced. Did you guys have a huge fight? But we wrote the jokes together with a friend of ours. Like, we both knew what the other was gonna say, because you don't. The thing about a roast that's nerve wracking. You don't wanna learn something about yourself at a roast.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

You don't want your wife to say, yeah, because this guy, you know, snores or whatever the hell it is. And then you're like, wait, what? I didn't know you felt that way. So we worked on the jokes together, and so it ended up being really, really fun. She won. You know, I let her win.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Maybe that's how we do our roast.

[Brian Green]

I told you. You know Brian. Do you know Brian Moses, the Roast Battle?

[Joe List]

Yeah, I know Brian Moses.

[Brian Green]

So Brian came on and then he says he comes up with an idea during the interview. He's like, you guys should roast each other. Come on out. You know, we'll put you up, we'll give you. It's a couple minutes, and we'll help you write the roast Battle jokes together. And so I was all about it. Chrissy said, no, I don't want to do that. I don't want to be mean. You know, I don't. I don't want us to get into, like, some kind of discourse because of the roast battle. And I said, but we get to write them and choose them. Like, it's not like. It's not like we're just going to blindside each other with a bunch of insults. You're. We're going to talk this out before we go on. So, yeah, I think. I don't think that happens in every roast battle. I think it happens when two people know each other real well. And like you said, you don't want to be known as the two pumps. Like, you don't want your wife to come up and say you're a two pump chump. And then you're like, did you have to say that in front of him?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Right, yeah, exactly.

[Joe List]

Yeah. So we went over them together and. Cause I went one time, I was on a roast years and years ago, and there was, like, eight comics on the day. It wasn't a roast battle. It was just a regular roast. And there was one guy, and everybody did a joke about how his breath smelled horrible.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Oh, no.

[Joe List]

And he was like, we did it individually. It's not like we got together. Like, let's all talk about this. We all just. That's what we came up with. And he was like, I had no idea I had a breath problem. So that's, like, the worst thing that can happen in a roast today. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Roasts are. It's a certain flavor of comedy. I find some of. I find some of it funny. But then I Sometimes I watch some of those roasts, and I wonder just how emotionally stable that person is after the roast, because, you know that you take it like a tough guy, but it. Everybody. Something's. There's some soft in everybody. Right. There's a soft middle in everybody. And I bet sometimes people get off and they're like, wow, I didn't know you felt that way about me.

[Joe List]

Oh, for sure. Yeah. No, it can be a little dicey. I do think it is best to roast people you're close with, which is the way roast used to be. And then, like, the Comedy Central roast, it kind of got to a weird place where we just had comedians come on and roast people they don't really know. And that can be.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, there was a few of those that looked rather uncomfortable.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

But interesting. We're talking about, like, kind of, like roasting people in emotional stability. You have been kind of outspoken about mental health. I actually just saw the trailer a couple days ago on your Instagram trailer for this movie that you were in about anxiety. Can you share more about that?

[Joe List]

Yeah. So my friend Wendy Lobel, she made this film about comedians with anxiety that's been in the works for a long, long time. It's actually painful to see the footage because.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's from, like, 2020, right?

[Joe List]

Yeah. Yeah. I look insane to me. I look ins. But, yeah. So she made this movie, and it follows me and Mark Norman and Baron Vaughn, and then another woman who I don't know, and I forget her name, who's actually in it the most. And I feel like an idiot for not remembering her name. But so she filmed it over years and got, like, tons and tons of footage of these comedians. And I went and meditated with Tara Brock, who's a famous meditation teacher who I love, and it's been a long project, and she got it together, and now it's, like, going it's doing great. It's on the festival circuit and stuff. And it's a really great movie. Like I said, it's painful to watch myself. But you guys probably don't carry the same pain watching me that other.

[Brian Green]

I think you're a pleasant looking guy, Joe. But I also understand the struggle of looking in the mirror and not always feeling. I think that piggybacks nicely off. The conversation about anxiety is that we all have anxieties. And like as mentioned in the trailer of the film and is, you know, most people, if they think about it for a second, will probably understand that anxiety is really the. Your brain making up fear of something that may or may not happen. Right. Anxiety is fear of the future. And stress is, you know, the pain of the past or trauma is pain of the past. And that can be really debilitating to people. And I think we all have it to some degree. I know I have it to some degree. I guess meditation is one of the ways that you deal with this, with your own anxieties.

[Joe List]

Yeah, I've come a long, long way, especially since then and before then. But I'm a big meditator. And therapy, I love therapy. I go to therapy every day, if I could. I just think it's the best. I agree. But I go. Yeah. Once a week and then I'm a big meditation. And then I'm always reading like some kind of psychology book or philosophy book or listening to them and all that stuff.

[Brian Green]

What kind of meditation are you into?

[Joe List]

I listen to the Waking up app, which is Sam Harris's meditation app. And it's kind of. I always forget the name Teravada or some other vada.

[Brian Green]

Ayurveda.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, the Ayurveda.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. It's like body scanning. Is that what it is? It's.

[Joe List]

It's some of that, but a lot of. Yeah, like seeing through the ego and that there's nothing there. Nothingness, emptiness, all that kind of stuff.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I'm with you. So meditation and therapy are two of the ways that I deal with my own anxieties. And I think it's a really important subject. And I applaud you for being open and transparent about it. And I do think that comedy is one of the ways that we comedians oftentimes will share their own neuroses or their own own struggles with mental health or their own questions about their own existence or whatever it is. Right. Their anxieties out there in a funny way that it's hard to not be open when you're laughing. And then that Message kind of gets through. Oh, he recognizes what I'm feeling. Or he has the same thing. I think comedy, in a way, can be therapeutic like that, or at least opens the mind sometimes. I don't want to say it's some grand exploration, but I do believe that comedians sometimes can be on the forefront of opening our minds to conversations that maybe we otherwise didn't have. Did I read this correctly, Joe, that you've been sober for 10 years? 12 years, yeah.

[Joe List]

About 12 and a half years, yeah. Which is another thing that has really helped my stress and anxiety.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah. Congratulations.

[Joe List]

Thank you.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I. I have not been drinking now for almost a decade. Drinking, you know, free from the drinking and. And most drugs, except for prescription medications. But how has that changed your life? Oh, I mean, I can't even imagine, right?

[Joe List]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Immeasurably. I mean, like, I. I mean, I drank a lot, obviously, and. And. And comedy, it's like, it's free drinks, open bar everywhere, and all that stuff. So just. I spent so much time. I would get off stage, I would drink before the show, during the show, after the show, and so. And having a baby, it's been, like, so helpful to not be drinking. My wife and I always talk about she's sober too. Like, having to do this hungover, I cannot imagine. And then just not being present for your kid's life and all that stuff. And basically, I mean, when I hit 30, that's when I quit drinking. My hangovers were insane. Like, when I was 22, I would get blackout drunk, throw up in a shoe, shit on the floor, wake up, and play basketball the next day. Like, I would be like, oh, 10am basketball game, here we go. And then at 30, I would just want to die. So it definitely made me much more prolific in comedy, Much a happier person, a much more physically fit person. Not that I'm not exactly the fittest, but I'm not throwing up or, you know, shitting my pants. So. So just every. My every aspect of my life improved in every way, countless ways.

[Brian Green]

I share some of the same revelations about sobriety. I didn't get sober because I went to jail or I ended up on the street or there was some big financial collapse. I got sober because, well, first of all, I was smoking cigarettes at the time, and I could not, for the life of me stop smoking cigarettes the second I put alcohol to my lips, I needed to smoke a cigarette. And I hated the fact that I was smoking cigarettes at my age. I'm like, fuck this. You're gonna Die, like clearly this is terrible for your health, right? You gotta stop. So I said, why don't you stop drinking for three months? That'll get you over the hump. And within a couple of weeks of not drinking, life started to change in ways that were very unexpected. Nothing I was looking for, but all of a sudden started to happening. Some clarity, some perspective, some understanding. And like you said, my hangovers were getting worse, my drunks were getting more kind of sloppy, right. And I just felt like after a couple of months, after I stopped smoking cigarettes and then after a couple of months I was like, wow, I don't want to be the old guy at the bar, sitting at the corner drunk like an idiot, sloppy as I can be because that's just not a good look. But then that guy doesn't have. I mean, there are, I'm sure there are some people who drink alcohol well into their existence and are very smart and self aware and all that, but you know, I haven't met too many of them, right. They're always just kind of. They can be a little sloppy sometimes. So I said to myself, wow. And then years into it, I had children. And I cannot imagine for the life of me being hungover with small children. Can't even imagine it.

[Joe List]

No, it's crazy. And it's hard enough being tired all the time and all that stuff and running around chasing them dead sober, healthy. So yeah, I just, I just can't imagine. And yeah, and that's the other thing is like in comedy, at least I think most fields, there's not a lot of people that are like really, really successful who are blacking out at night.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

There's a couple, that's true.

[Brian Green]

We know that we don't have the name, you know, we don't need to say names. We know them. They're just alcohol and comedy go hand in hand for them. And some of them are really funny, by the way. Some of them are really. Some of them we've had on the show and they're really funny. Did you, was that a crutch for you when you would go on stage? Did that help you? Was that like bravery juice?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I would have to do it. Yeah.

[Joe List]

I mean it, it's. I was never uncomfortable doing comedy sober, but I definitely. It was fun. It was funner to be a little bit loose and have a little uninhibited. But you definitely. There was a lot more getting off stage and being like, what did I say right? Why did I flip out? Did I say the F word 700 times? Whatever it is, you know? So there was definitely a lot more. That. That was the other thing, too. When I was drinking, I was a big drunk texter and caller. I would wake up and send 40 texts to people being like, I love you, you love me, whatever it was. And I'm like, oh, my God. Or Facebook messenger. And I'm like, I messaged that person. Jesus.

[Brian Green]

Oh, Joe. It sounds like we lived the same life. I was the same way.

[Joe List]

Yeah, it was terrible. I was one of those guys. I was always either telling people that loved me or that they hated me. That was my big thing. I'd be like, you hate me. Why do you hate me? Or I would be like, you fucking love me. What do you do?

[Brian Green]

You know you love me.

[Joe List]

You know you love me.

[Brian Green]

Send me a tit pic. Come on, let's do it.

[Joe List]

Yeah, there was a lot of that, too.

[Brian Green]

Tell us about your new special coming out. Or actually, by the time this airs, it will have been out. So tell us about your new special.

[Joe List]

Oh, great. Yeah, it's out. It's doing great.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Storing the charts.

[Brian Green]

It's hitting the YouTube chart cards.

[Joe List]

It's called Small Ball. It's my fourth hour special that I've done the last, I think, five and a half years. Six years.

[Brian Green]

Geez, Joe. In the last five years, you put out four separate hours?

[Joe List]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Wow.

[Joe List]

It's been going well, so I don't know how I've done it. I try not to think about it, but they're all good, I think. But I think this one. I think this one's better than the last one. I'm really happy about it. I shot it in Chicago back in October at Zany's Comedy Club. I'd actually shot it in two different. Different clubs. There's a Zany's downtown. There's one in Rosemont, which is kind of the suburbs.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

And we shot them and we kind of cut them together, but not in a, you know, weird way, jarring way. It's like, just a few cuts. So there's a lot of footage from both, and I'm really happy with. I'm excited about it. And we tried to sell it to Netflix, and they said, lose our number. Rip up my number. Don't call me again. This is terrible. No, they're. They're backed up or whatever. But. So we're putting it on YouTube, and I. I actually love YouTube. It gives you the freedom. I own it. And it's. All the specials are in one place. You can. You can collect all four. They're all right there.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

We've talked to a few people that have done the YouTube and said how much they loved it.

[Brian Green]

We've talked to a lot of people. 800 pound gorilla has been supportive of a lot of people. You know, they of course have the YouTube channel. I think they also sell on streaming too. But there's a lot of comedians that, that come on here, noted comed people who have been on Netflix and then they go, you know what? I'm doing this one on YouTube for whatever reason. I'm sure there's a myriad of them. And, and to Netflix credit, they, I think they have been pretty supportive of the.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

They've been doing a lot of comedy.

[Brian Green]

A lot of comedy. But you know, if you put out a special, you want people to see it and you don't want them to wait five years or until you finish negotiating with Netflix or whatever. Is that difficult to navigate that? I mean, I mean my personal opinion, and this is why I like podcasting. It's multi platform. I'm not stuck to just Apple or Spotify, Castbox, whatever. If one goes down or one changes the way they do things, we still have others that are out there. I don't rely on them. It's disparate in nature and I control what I put out there and what I don't put out there and I can do it instantly. I don't have to wait, you know, for somebody else to distribute it. So I understand the allure of just putting it out there on YouTube on your own and self distribution. But is it difficult sometimes trying to navigate the world of streaming and streamers and OTT and all that other shit?

[Joe List]

Yeah, it's, it's weird. And none of this was around when I started. I didn't know this was going to be part of my career.

[Rachel]

It's.

[Joe List]

It's so crazy. I always laugh about like when I started now, 25 years ago, I used to always say for years I'm like, if you put in an hour of work a day, you're ahead of most comedians because comedians are lazy by nature. And now it's like we all have nine to fives. You got to cut clips, you got to post, you got to tweet, you got to, to have a podcast and a web series and all this. So it is tricky kind of managing all of it, but at the same time it's awesome because there's less gatekeepers and you can make something with your phone. We all have television studios in our pocket and then you can just upload it to YouTube. Even I know how to do that and I'm an idiot. So it is great. And it's like we all have our own TV channel which has its plus and minuses, obviously, but it's definitely been challenging having to learn these things because a lot of this stuff is stuff I didn't want to do. That's why I wanted to be a comedian. I didn't want to have a job or work or think about stuff other than, you know, dick jokes. But ultimately it's great. It's like the best thing that ever happened in my career.

[Brian Green]

When, at what point in your evolution did you like jump on board with that kind of, I need to be a multifaceted content creator and not just a stand up comedian. And were you late to the game or because you said I didn't want to do it? I hear you, Joe. That's exactly how we feel. Yeah, we hate it.

[Joe List]

It is.

[Brian Green]

I like to podcast. That's what I like to do.

[Joe List]

I was definitely late. Twitter and Instagram and stuff. I was just like, I'm not doing that crap. I mean, it's crazy how late I got into social media stuff and YouTube. I just didn't build a channel or really try to do any of that. I just always thought like, I'll just do standup on the road and they'll give me a movie or something. I don't know why it was. And Instagram, when people started doing clips and crowd work stuff, I was still posting because I love, I'm like an amateur photographer, so I was still posting sunsets and like buildings.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I love it.

[Joe List]

Like, like guys were doing like bus tours, like theater tours because of their clips. And I was like, get out of here. Instagram's for photos. And so I actually had to start a new Instagram account. I have a Joelist photography Instagram in addition to Joe List comedy.

[Brian Green]

I did see that.

[Joe List]

I take some great photos, but I just, I've been so resistant and reluctant to all this stuff. But now I'm, I'm coming around, I'm doing better.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I think it's a, it is a double edged sword. It keeps you busy. I mean, we are so late to the game too. I think like two months ago we said, okay, we should pay attention to this Instagram thing. Five years into the podcast, you know, hey, we should put out some videos since everything is now video. But it is, it is tough because it adds so much more work. And if it's not your sweet spot, if it's not your Lane, then you either have to find somebody who can help you with that, or you have to learn a whole new way of looking at, thinking about your own content. And like you said, there's comedians who are out there who are just putting clips of crowd work and they're doing entire tours. You know, they're making millions of dollars because they did these clips with crowd work. Well, some of them, I would argue not all of them, but some of them. That's what they. That's all they do. It's just crowd work. Like they just do clips of crowd work right there. It's not stand up comedy in the classic sense. It's just, let's go out there and talk to the crowd. And I guess that's a form of art too. But it's very interesting if you go like, you for 25 years have been honing your craft as a standup comedian. You know, set up punchline, setup, punchline, storytell, punchline. And then you have to learn this whole new way of being.

[Joe List]

It's.

[Brian Green]

It's hard. It's like, you know, teaching an old dog new trick.

[Joe List]

Yeah, no, it's weird. And then I started doing these sort of ironic crowd work videos where I would just ask people where they were from and then be like, cool, and then name some things. So I thought that would be funny. And then I posted so many of those people were like, this guy sucks at crowd work. I'm like, no, I know. That's the bit so that, you know, you just. It's hard to control what people are gonna. How people are gonna perceive things.

[Brian Green]

You do a podcast?

[Joe List]

I do, yeah. I do a podcast called Tuesdays with Stories with Mark Norman, which we've been doing for. I guess I was early in podcast because we've been doing it for 12 years now.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Wow.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Yeah, it's a great.

[Brian Green]

It's a great show. I've seen it. I like Mark. I think he's really funny. I think you guys are funny together.

[Joe List]

Oh, thank you.

[Brian Green]

You're welcome. So his new special is out now. We're gonna put links in the show notes, Chrissy, if you don't mind. And we'll remind you all week to go watch Joe's special on YouTube. There's four of them available. You can listen to his podcast with Mark Norman, who is also a very funny comedian himself. And he's a booze aficionado, am I right? He's got. He's got a booze company with. Doesn't he have. Who was just on the show. A couple months ago. Yeah.

[Joe List]

Bodega cat? Yeah, it's a whiskey.

[Brian Green]

Do you get a lot of bodega cat when you're doing a podcast with Mark?

[Joe List]

No. I mean, I know you don't because you don't drink. Yeah, I don't drink. And I always want to be like, it's awesome, guys. You got to get it. But I'm like, I have no idea. It might suck. I don't really know. I assume it's good. But yeah, so they have a whiskey company together, and now I'm seeing it more and more, so I think it's doing well.

[Brian Green]

I see ads all over, so social media and I. I don't know. They were at Madison Square Garden doing something. It was. So congratulations to both of them. Okay, so Joe, you can find all his information down in the show notes. Please follow him on social media for clips and all that good jazz. Joe, it was very nice to meet you. You are welcome back anytime.

[Joe List]

Yeah, thank you.

[Brian Green]

Next time you're here in Atlanta, please contact us, because we will. This is not our only studio. We have another studio. We would love to have you in and you can sit with us.

[Joe List]

Us.

[Brian Green]

And we'll have a conversation and drink some tea.

[Joe List]

I would love that. Yeah, that's my favorite thing to do. We'll drink the tea and we'll spill the tea.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. So make sure you contact us next time you're in Atlanta.

[Joe List]

Appreciate it, guys.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Thanks.

[Brian Green]

Joe, you make this rather snappy, won't you? I have some very heavy thinking to do before 10:00.

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[Rachel]

Of other podcasts that he is apparently.

[Brian Green]

A regular on down in the show. Notes. Go watch his special on YouTube. We plead with you. We beg with you, Chrissy. Beg the audience to go do these things because when you do these things things, then it lets the all the people out there know that going on the commercial break really is worth those three extra clicks.

[Joy Hoadley]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

And then bigger and better guests come, and we've got a shitload of them coming up in June, July and August. It's a packed summer full of wonderful guests. Wait till you see what we have in store for you. You are going to be just as underwhelmed as ever. All Right.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

No, I've seen the schedule.

[Brian Green]

We've had some really good ones. Kind of crazy, actually. Yeah, I just want to drop this. We have Gary Vee coming in. You know who Gary Vee is? Do your homework, kids. Gary Vee.

[Rachel]

Gary V. E E. I'm sure a.

[Brian Green]

Lot of you just perched your ears up and went, gary Vee's coming on the commercial break. He is. Well, at least that's what the plan is. Yeah, we'll see if he actually shows up, because we've had a few of those. Yeah, I'm looking at you, Countess. Yeah, fuck you and your bravo. All right, here we go. Add the commercial break on Instagram. TCB podcast on TikTok. Those are the two socials that sometimes we post to. On occasion, you might catch a glimpse of us on those two places. So go ahead and follow us. Be one of the 90 that are doing that currently on TikTok, or one of the less than 10,000 that's doing. Doing that us on Instagram. Whatever. Whatever's clever, you know, go for it. TCB podcast. The tcbpodcast.com is the URL, the web address. That's where you find us on the Internet, kids. And if you want to, you can watch the audio, you can watch the video, you can listen to the audio, or you can get your free TCB sticker right from that URL address. TCBpodcast.com give us your address, we'll send you a free sticker. No, no, must, no fuss. Unless you're from one of those coupon sites. And then a quiz will be given. A quiz will be given. 212-4333, tcb 212-433-3822. Questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas. We take them all right there on YouTube.com they commercial break for all the episodes on video as soon as they are here on. All right, Chrissy, that's all I can do for today.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I think so I'll tell you that I love you. I love you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Best to you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, we will say, we do say, and we must say goodbye.

[Rachel]

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