TCB Infomercial w. Des Bishop

Summary

The Commercial Break – TCB Infomercial w. Des Bishop
Episode Date: June 18, 2024
Guest: Des Bishop (Comedian)
Hosts: Brian Green & Kristen (“Krissy”) Joy

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant, laughter-filled episode, Bryan and Krissy welcome international comedian Des Bishop for a classic TCB “infomercial” jam session. The chat bounces engagingly across Des’s globe-trotting childhood, his career as a beloved Irish-American standup, the challenge of learning Mandarin and performing comedy in China, family tales, religion, and the perils/delights of late-in-life parenthood. Along the way, Des’s blend of sharp wit, heartfelt honesty, and wry self-awareness shines, making for a rollicking, fast-moving, and surprisingly touching listen.

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Main Themes & Purpose

• Getting to Know Des Bishop: His multicultural upbringing, the origins of his comedy career, and unique life path.
• Comedy, Identity, and Adaptation: Navigating Irish and American humor, and branching out globally.
• Learning Languages & Chinese Adventure: The experience of learning Mandarin for “Breaking China.”
• Family, Fatherhood & Cultural Legacy: Growing up with an actor/model father, musings on parenthood, and family stories.
• Religion and Upbringing: Nostalgia and gripes about Irish Catholic roots.
• Navigating Viral Success: Reflections on gaining wider U.S. exposure via social media clips and a new YouTube special.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Des Bishop's Origin Story

• Ultra-mobile childhood: Born in London (to Irish parents), raised in NYC, sent to boarding school in Ireland at 14, went on to perform standup across Ireland, China, and recently the U.S.
• Comedy rooted in Irish life: “Almost my entire career has been an Irish comedy career. …They were shocked by how much I knew and how good I was at doing, like, Irish accents.” (Des, 11:41)

Memorable moment:

• “[My dad] was an actor and model in London. Then he was headhunted by the Ford Modeling Agency… But my London birth is like an anomaly. My parents were living in London. They waited for me to be born, and then they immediately left.” (Des, 09:21)

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2. Family Legends & Sacrifice

• Dad’s odd-jobs and near-misses: Des’s father almost played James Bond, had small parts in classic movies, but became a retail manager for family stability.
• Bittersweet comedy: Des’s tribute show “My Dad was Nearly James Bond” explored his father’s sacrifices and their strong family bond.

Quote:

• “He sacrificed the acting life for us. …We did a show together as his final act. Literally, no pun intended.” (Des, 22:07)

Hosts’ parallel:

• Brian’s own dad once auditioned for “Davy Crockett”—not quite the glamour of James Bond, but a treasured family joke. (19:01–20:59)

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3. Breaking China: Learning Mandarin, Performing Standup

• Immersion: Des spent one year in Beijing, learning Mandarin and integrating so thoroughly that his TV show “Breaking China” saw him do stand-up for Chinese audiences, in Mandarin.

Insights:

• Language fluency = full commitment:
  “If anybody had one year… to put aside with the sole purpose of learning a language, you would be amazed how fluent almost anybody would get… The most important thing… is motivation. What better motivation than knowing… people are going to be watching me progress.” (Des, 14:32–15:14)
• Full immersion:
  “I was very rigid with myself. Didn’t watch any English-language programming for the full year except ‘Breaking Bad.’ The rest of the time I watched everything in Mandarin.” (Des, 15:22)

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4. “Of All People” – The New Special

• Going viral: Des’s self-produced special “Of All People” on YouTube, fueled by hit Instagram clips, is catapulting him to a new U.S. audience.

Show title origin:

• “One of the Irish… gossip websites, the opening line of the article was: ‘Des Bishop, of all people, showed up at the MTV Music Awards.’ …That Irish passive aggression—I love it!” (Des, 30:27)

Notable moment:

• Des rearranged the special in the edit to “come out hot”—the famous opening bit was actually later in the live show. (31:38)

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5. On Parenthood & Stage-of-Life Adjustments

• Des (“almost 50”) and his wife Hannah Berner are considering having kids—a topic mined for both real anxiety and killer jokes.

Honest reflection:

• “I always knew that we’re probably gonna have kids… but I just got a bit older. …A lot of my friends… their kids are close to being kind of done. …I was at a time where I had accepted that I might not have kids, and I was fine with it.” (Des, 32:57)
• “It’s not a debate because it’s not really up to me! …In terms of whether we have kids… it’s basically up to Hannah.” (Des, 32:44)

Hilarious riff:

• “You don’t wanna die alone… But you’re actually only dying for a very short period of time. …A kid in this economy, 30-year commitment for what, a couple of morphine-induced conversations? I’ll talk to a nurse!” (Des, 36:47)

Brian’s older-dad pitch:

• “You have the advantage of hindsight. You’re wiser, calmer… I think I enjoy the moments so much more than my friends who had children at 20.” (Brian, 35:03)

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6. Cultural and Generational Riffs: Irish Catholic Upbringing

• All three riff on the rigidity and anxiety of 1980s Irish Catholicism—guilt, shame, humor in church music, and family attitudes are lovingly lampooned.

Classic Des:

• “Anything fun at mass was a problem. …No joy allowed at church.” (Des, 27:05)

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7. Crossing Over: Viral Clips, Social Media & U.S. Success

• Des’s American “breakout” arrives after decades as a big name in Ireland, with a pivot to more universal (less “parochial”) topics helping him find an audience online.

Observation:

• “All these dates are literally as a result of the [special’s] clips doing well. …It’s a long time since I felt, like, a new… fresh departure in my career.” (Des, 43:58)
• “The sweet spot—before I’m actually well-known, people are like, ‘We like this guy.’ The minute you get well-known: ‘This guy loves himself!’” (Des, 46:00)

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8. Language, Identity and Future Parenting Goals

• On wanting his future child to learn Mandarin:
  “I want to get a Mandarin-speaking nanny. I was thinking about introducing our child to Mandarin from the get...” (Des, 41:25)
• On American/Irish identity:
  “They don’t accept Irish Americans as Irish... they can’t have everything!” (Des, 53:37)

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9. Boarding School at 14

• Des was sent to boarding school in Ireland largely for behavioral intervention (early drinking), but he lobbied for it—“saved” by the unique structure and camaraderie.

  • “Boarding school absolutely saved me. …The structure, the forced study, the camaraderie….” (Des, 51:24)

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Notable Quotes & Funniest Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Now, sometimes I’ll be running home, I’m so addicted to my phone. …And then I realize I left my phone in my jacket. …Oh my God. I was nearly with myself for two minutes. What would I have done with my thoughts…?”
  – Des Bishop, 00:00

• “He sacrificed the acting life for us…His final act was we did a show together.”
  – Des, 22:07

• “If anybody had one year to put aside with the sole purpose of learning a language, you’d be amazed how fluent almost anybody would get…Motivation is key.”
  – Des, 14:32

• “‘Of All People’—that’s a great title. Kind of out of spite. It’s a spiteful title.”
  – Des, 31:00

• “You don’t wanna die alone. …But you’re only dying for a very short period of time. …A kid in this economy, 30-year commitment for what, a couple of morphine-induced conversations? I’ll talk to a nurse.”
  – Des, 36:47

• “Anything fun at mass was a problem. …There was no joy allowed at church.”
  – Des, 27:05

• “The sweet spot—before I’m actually well-known, people are like, ‘We like this guy.’ The minute you get well known: ‘This guy loves himself!’”
  – Des, 46:00

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–03:44 — Banter, intro, explaining Des’s background and “Breaking China”
• 09:21–12:31 — Des’s upbringing, father’s career, “Irish but born in London”
• 13:40–16:20 — “Breaking China,” language learning, TV show origin
• 22:07–23:10 — Father-son show, family dynamics, sacrifices for stability
• 25:38–29:32 — On Irish Catholic upbringing, church songs, culture clashes
• 30:16–32:42 — Why “Of All People”, Irish tabloids, editing the special
• 32:44–36:33 — Kids or no kids? Late fatherhood, anxieties, advice
• 43:08–47:35 — Going viral in the U.S., comments, the joy of broader audiences
• 49:18–53:22 — Going to boarding school at 14, early drinking, culture shock
• 53:37–56:47 — Irish identity, U.S./Ireland comparisons, life in Dublin & Cork
• 57:13–58:29 — Self-doubt, uploading the special, positive reception

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Closing Thoughts

The episode is a quintessential “Commercial Break” blend: rapid-fire stories, self-deprecating asides, and deep slices of real life beneath the laughs. Des Bishop emerges as a comedian-philosopher of unlikely success—a guy with true global roots, a gift for reinvention, and a heartfelt (if sometimes sardonic) dedication to the craft.

Check out Des’s work:

• YouTube Special: Of All People (“just put it on…let it play!”)
• Instagram: @desbishop
• Tour Dates: desbishop.net

Memorable send-off:
“Of all people…You’ve got to go watch. It needs more views. You don’t even have to watch it—just click it on and go about your business!” (Des, 56:47)

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Best to you, TCB universe!

Transcript

[Des Bishop]

I can't remember the last time I just took a shit. It was definitely over a decade ago. Cause now I am so addicted. That used to be like me time, you know, that was everybody's like, yo, this is me time. Don't bother me, you know, on the throne, you know, now sometimes I'll be like, I'll be running home. I'm so addicted to my phone. I'll get home, I'll make it to the bedroom. Wow, I just made it. And then I realized I left my phone in my jacket. I'll pick my pants back up, I'll go back outside. I'm like, oh my God. I was nearly with myself for two minutes. What would I have done with my thoughts had I not been able to swipe on my Instagram for two minutes while I'm in the bathroom? On this episode of the commercial break.

[Brian Green]

If your wife is anything like my wife, that nanny is gonna be at least 60 years old. There's gonna be no woman coming in this house.

[Des Bishop]

I have a friend, sadly lost his wife young. But anyway, the in laws got the nanny and they made a bad call.

[Brian Green]

Oh, they did?

[Des Bishop]

Well, good call. A bad call. Depends what side of the divide you're on.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, good call on the nanny's part.

[Des Bishop]

But as a result of that story, you can be sure our nanny is definitely going to be 60 years old. The next episode of the commercial break starts now.

[Brian Green]

Oh yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is Kristen Joy, only my best friend and the co host of this wonderful podcast. Best to you, Chrissy.

[Kristen Joy]

Best to you, Brian.

[Brian Green]

Best of you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for joining us on a infomercial Tuesday with a brother from another mother, DEZ Bishop coming in. I've been so excited, heavy about this one. Chrissy.

[Kristen Joy]

I know.

[Brian Green]

What, what more could you want than yet another white middle aged man here on the commercial break?

[Kristen Joy]

He's good looking too.

[Brian Green]

Oh man, he's a handsome dude. God damn, he's handsome.

[Kristen Joy]

He really is.

[Brian Green]

So DEZ Bishop, for those of you that don't know, is the husband of Hannah Burner. When we talked to Hannah, she was. I'm trying to say it properly. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Hannah, Hannah, whatever your name is. Hannah explained that DEZ would be a great fit for the commercial break. He should come on, I'll tell them all about you. And you know, I think that's, I, I figured that was just stuff people in the entertainment industry say to each other. Like, my people will call your people, right? Call me for tickets, you know, have my people send out some tickets. All that, you know, all that good stuff. Like, a lot of times when Brian says, you must come back on the show, on the show where they have no choice but to say it, you know, but he did, in fact, come on. He did, in fact, want to come on the show. And here he is today, and I'm very excited about it. Des has this special. Here's how I connected with.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, because you've known about him for a while.

[Brian Green]

For a long time. I mean, I say a long time. As long as the podcast has been around. Because when the pandemic started, I don't know how, but I got, you know, served some of his content via Instagram. And then I was like, oh, this guy's really funny. I like his, like his style. I like what he's doing up there. Let me check him out. And what I landed on was Des Bishop breaking China. And what this is, is it's a. It's a show, television show that he did where he spent a year in China learning Mandarin. Like perfect Mandarin. And then he did a stand and all. All for doing stand up in China in front of a totally Chinese crowd in Mandarin. And he did it and he got laughs. I don't even think they have stand up in China. Like, this is. By the way, this was like 10 years ago when he did this or something. It was a long time ago, but I saw it online and I watched all the episodes and I just kind of fell in love with the premise. I fell in love with DEZ and his style of comedy. And I just think he's one of the funniest, you know, comedians out there right now.

[Kristen Joy]

I like his style. I mean, just going for it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Why not just jump right in?

[Des Bishop]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy]

Committing to it. Say you're going to do it, you do it. You move in with a family there and just only talk Mandarin.

[Brian Green]

That's it. You just dive. Right. Let me tell you something about learning another language. Learning another language is harder the older that you get. That's my personal opinion about this. I have been speaking and understanding English, trying to understand Spanish since I was 16 years old. And I still don't do it very well. I certainly don't do it fluently. But if I go to Spain, I instantly turn into a Spanish speaking human being. Like when I'm immersed in the culture.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Then I can get around. But my Spanish is still pretty bad. I understand a lot of it. I speak Less of it. But it's really hard for me to wrap my head around some of the conjugations and some of the way just. But Spanish is one of the easiest languages to learn. Mandarin is one of the most difficult languages to learn. He did it in a year. And then he did stand up. What a ballsy fucking move. What a ballsy move.

[Kristen Joy]

He went for it. He did a great job.

[Brian Green]

Anyway. Fell in love with it. And then I watched his, of all people, which is the new special that he has out on YouTube, which is really funny, dude. The first 10 minutes. If that doesn't get you going, that doesn't tickle you in the right spots, I don't know what will. I mean, he is. He's quick, he's brash, he's fussy, he's fiery. He's just like me.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

He's just like me. And I'm gonna point that out in every way. I feel like I have a twin brother out there. His name is Des Bishop. Well, his name is Kevin Green, but I feel like I have a twin brother out there.

[Kristen Joy]

You're a triplet.

[Brian Green]

It's triplets. And then is one of them. So we're so excited to have.

[Kristen Joy]

And how about the univers, you know, doing its thing and putting him in front of us after you found him, you know, four years ago at this point. And then through Hannah, you know, and now he's here.

[Brian Green]

Wild. I did not know the two of them were married. Yeah. And I got booked on the show, and then I was doing some research, and I was like, holy. He's. She's married to DEZ Bishop. So I just. Yeah, you're right. The universe works in mysterious ways. She is a fickle and funny bitch, and she has put DEZ right here in front of us today. So enough kissing his ass. I mean, honest. Come on, Brian.

[Kristen Joy]

But we're fans.

[Brian Green]

But I am a fan. This is what. This is one of my favorites, and I am excited to have him in. So why don't we do this? I'm gonna.

[Kristen Joy]

Why don't we.

[Brian Green]

Why don't we do this? Why wouldn't we do this? Happy Juneteenth, everybody.

[Kristen Joy]

Do the Biden.

[Brian Green]

Do the Biden. Do the Biden robot. Chrissy just showed me the video where Biden's at a Juneteenth celebration, and everyone's. There's a music playing. Everyone's dancing around him. Yeah. And he's got a look like.

[Kristen Joy]

I think Colbert called it the grandpa robot.

[Brian Green]

Oh, it's worse. Honestly. He does not look like he knows where he is. I mean, we got two really bad choices coming up here. My personal opinion is he might be the better of the two, but not by much. Not by much. I mean, I don't. He looks like, where's the donuts? Where's the donuts?

[Kristen Joy]

There's all these memes going around now.

[Brian Green]

Poor guy. I mean, he's just old. That's just what it is. Yeah, he's old. He still seems like he's got it most days, but then sometimes you hear him speak and you're like, ah. Is anybody home up there? And then you watch him dance and you're like, oh. Oh. Well, you know what they say. He's the lesser of two evil, in my opinion. In my personal life, he's lesser of two evils. But besides the point, not going to get into politics. We're going to talk to Des Bishop, who is a aggressively moderate, has aggressively moderate political stance. We're excited. So we'll take a break and then we'll be back with that super. Oh, by the way, desbishop.net or go on to YouTube, please, and watch, of all people. And let's ask him where he gets that name, because I don't. I don't even understand what that title means, quite frankly.

[Kristen Joy]

But we'll do it.

[Brian Green]

I don't understand a lot of stuff. I'm like Biden. I don't understand a lot of stuff. But I'm here with the microphone anyway.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

All right.

[Podcast Announcer]

What'S up, haters? Now, let's get down to business. If you've got something to say, say it to our faces. And by that I mean text us or call us at 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. You can and should also find us on Instagram at the commercial break and on TikTok at TCBpodcast. Unless you wanna fight me, in which case, don't. And if you're just desperate to see our shining faces in person, keep your ears peeled for ticketing information about TCB Live. As always, don't forget that you can find everything you could possibly need to find on our beautiful website, tcbpodcast.com.

[Des Bishop]

Bye.

[Brian Green]

And DEZ is here with us now. Thank you so much, Des, for coming on the commercial break.

[Kristen Joy]

Oh, thanks, Desmond.

[Des Bishop]

Thanks for having me, guys. This is amazing.

[Brian Green]

This is amazing to have you. I have to say, I imagine that you and your wife don't talk a lot or you wouldn't Be here on the commercial. Haven't reviewed what happened. We had Hannah on a couple of months ago. She was so lovely with us and gracious with her time. And so Desmond is the full name. Desmond Bishop. That is, I think, about as Irish of sounding of a name as it comes, but you are actually born in London, shot over to Queens, and then didn't get back to Ireland until you were 14 years old. Is that right? Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

As I. As I recently joked in my show, born in London, raised in New York, educated in Ireland, then went to China, and now I'm back in the States, which is a lot of traveling for a Bishop to do because I had to do it all diagonally.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

But the London birth. Can I just say that my London birth is like an anomaly. My parents were living in London. They waited for me to be born, and then they immediately left. So I am kind of left with this odd British birth that has, like, nothing to do with my identity.

[Brian Green]

Okay, but let's dig into this for a second. So why. Why were your parents over in London, like traveling for vacation or something and your mom went into labor?

[Des Bishop]

No. So my dad was actually an actor and a model before I was born.

[Brian Green]

This is where you get your good looks from.

[Des Bishop]

Well, he was very. If I wish. I wish I could bring up a picture of, like, my dad's headshot, he was exceptionally good looking, like, to the point where, like, people don't know what to do with how he was. Like, when you see. When you see this headshot that he has, it's like, it's. It's disarming how good looking he was. So my. My dad had gone from. My dad was like an actor and model in London. Then he was headhunted by the Ford Modeling Agency, brought over to the States, and that's. He met my mother at that time.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Des Bishop]

But then his career definitely was always more successful in the uk so around the time that I was born, he had been back. They had been back in London since 1973. I was born in 75. So. But once my mother was pregnant, she actually didn't want to go back to New York. My. My dad gave in to my grant. My mother's mother pushed my dad to get them back to New York. So they waited for me to be born because you couldn't travel back in those days, pregnant. Oh, that's time. And then I was. Within four weeks, I was back in New York. But I do have a British birth, which, as an Irish American, it has hurt my soul for a very Long time not to offend. Not to offend your British listeners, but it's just an odd thing on my birth certificate.

[Brian Green]

Yes, you're born and you're an Irish guy born in London, so I'm sure that they've held that against you behind enemy lines. Well, I have to. But I have to ask do. When you go to Ireland to do shows, because I think you actually were in Ireland doing shows when we talked to Hannah last time, did you. Do you get a warm reception from the Irish crowds?

[Des Bishop]

Well, I think it's pretty important to point out that almost my entire comedy career has been an Irish comedy career. You know, I went to. I didn't go to Ireland to do shows. I went to Ireland to go to boarding school when I was 14. So, yeah. And I got into comedy when I was 21, when I was still in college in Ireland. So my. Almost my entire career has been in Ireland. And even when I left Ireland, most of the time I didn't come back to the States. So the crowds definitely give me a warm reception, but only because they're the only crowds I've really known until very recently.

[Brian Green]

That's not true.

[Des Bishop]

And I was very lucky. I was very lucky that because I was educated in Ireland, but I have this strong, like, New York accent. I never lost my New York accent. Irish people, particularly in those early years, perceived me as, like, an American, but they were shocked by how much I knew and how good I was at doing, like, Irish accents and stuff like that.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

If you've ever seen, like, Tom Cruise far and away, oh, my God, you will. You will know that Irish people expect Americans to be really bad at Irish accents, whereas I could do, like, every different area of Ireland. So to be honest, I got more than just a warm reception. Reception in by Irish crowds. I got more than I deserved because actually, I wasn't even that funny. I just happened to be more Irish than they were expecting this mouth to produce.

[Brian Green]

You got a warm reception because it's kind of like you walked into foreign. It's almost like you're a foreigner in your own land. And they're like, my God, he really knows a lot about our culture. And look at him. He's doing an RT show, by the way, to tell my audience one thing right now, I got to say this before it slips away. Breaking China. Des Bishop does Bishop. Breaking China on YouTube is one of my favorite pandemic shows, because I think that's maybe when it was released by rt. Out into the wild or something.

[Des Bishop]

No, it was. It was on RTE in 2014.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it was on a long time ago.

[Des Bishop]

I released it into the wild myself. Without permission. Without permission. I might. On YouTube, I think around that time, where I certainly did it again. I mean, it's shocking to me that you've seen it.

[Brian Green]

I loved it.

[Des Bishop]

I feel like it doesn't have a lot of views, but it was originally an RTE show where I had one year. I lived in Beijing for one year to learn Mandarin, to do standup in Mandarin.

[Brian Green]

How did you do.

[Des Bishop]

What an experience.

[Kristen Joy]

I know.

[Des Bishop]

How did you do this?

[Brian Green]

How did you learn one of the most difficult languages to learn in the world in just a year, fluently enough to go then stand up? So here's the whole premise of the. The premise of the show is Des goes, lives with a family, works in China and then learns Mandarin well enough to go do stand up in front of a crowd and gets laughs. Nonetheless, how did you, how do you learn the language that quick at your advanced age? And I'm saying this from a place of love and respect.

[Des Bishop]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

Because of your advanced.

[Des Bishop]

No, but the older you get, the harder it is to learn new.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

Well, first of all, can I just say.

[Brian Green]

Sure.

[Des Bishop]

That if anybody had one year of their life to put aside with the sole purpose of learning a language, you would be amazed how fluent almost anybody would get in that language. Years ago, because I learned the Irish language too, which I won't confuse the audience, but while I was learning the Irish language, the guy who was helping me said that one of the most important things you need for language learning is motivation. And what better motivation than knowing that at the end of one year, my progress, or not even just at the end of one year, but throughout the whole journey of one year, people are going to be watching me progress. So Ireland's not a big country, but it's still, it's still like a lot of people that are going to be watching you and if you fail, it's pretty embarrassing. So I was, I was highly motivated.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Des Bishop]

And then China is such a great immersion, you know, like, because actually not a lot of people speak English there. I was living with that family who they didn't really have English speaking in the house. So it's necessity. You very quickly pick up more than you would expect. Also, by the way, I was very rigid with myself. I didn't watch any English language programming for the full year, except for Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad was some Chinese site like, you know, one of these Iqiyi or one of these Chinese websites actually had the official Permission to show Breaking Bad. So it was, it was coming up one day after it was coming out in the United States. So the only show I allowed myself to watch in English was Breaking Bad. The rest of the time I watched everything in Mandarin. I completely immersed myself. No English. And I wouldn't. I try not to talk to people in English. I only hung out with Chinese people. I was like the total nerd.

[Brian Green]

You. You nailed it, by the way. You nailed it. And I, I gotta, I gotta say this. What. So what, real quick, what is the Irish language? Gaelic. Is that what it would be?

[Des Bishop]

Gaelic is what they say over here. Yeah, gwelga, officially in the Irish language and then in English. In English, the, The word for the Irish language is Irish, you know, but. But for some reason. But in the States, when you say Irish, people think, isn't that just English with an Irish accent?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah.

[Des Bishop]

So. So I had, you know, back in 2007, I had learned the Irish language for a TV series for Irish TV, which was also like a successful TV show, but also easy to do in terms of stand up about the Irish language because everyone in Ireland actually has to learn it, but they don't succeed. But it's a compulsory subject in school. Okay, but that is where I got the idea for the, for the Chinese project.

[Brian Green]

Okay, so pull back the curtains a little bit. On this show that I loved so much, does rt. Do you approach RTE and say, hey, listen, I want to do this special. Is it your idea? Do you bring it to them or do they bring it to you?

[Des Bishop]

No. So the Irish language idea was my idea.

[Brian Green]

I mean, the Chinese one.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, but this is the journey.

[Brian Green]

Gotcha.

[Des Bishop]

So the Irish language is my idea, did very well in rt. And then coincidentally, I had a big breakup. I was actually engaged to be married back in those days.

[Brian Green]

And scandalous.

[Des Bishop]

Big, big breakup. And suddenly I had like, like I just had like freedom to do whatever I wanted, you know, career wise. So I had this obsession with China, the Chinese language. It was leading up to the 2008 Beijing Olympics. So I said, hey, how. Why don't we do this? What we just did, but for Chinese. But unfortunately, first of all, they didn't bite straight away. A much bigger budget and I didn't actually get it off the ground for five years. So it took five years from the initial pitch to actually flying to Beijing.

[Brian Green]

That's such a long time. That's such a long time to sit and wait. I get that's.

[Des Bishop]

Well, a lot, a lot, a lot had happened. You know, my dad Actually, my dad got sick and then. So, you know, we were talking right at the beginning about my dad being an actor and a model. So when my dad got sick, I actually wrote a show about my dad called My dad was nearly James Bond because one of the. His claims to fame, which is actually his claim to fame, is a failure. But he did audition for On Her Majesty's Secret Service or certainly, like, low level consideration. He's not, like, in the annals of. Of. Of James Bond history, but he definitely had been looked at by the. The broccoli, you know, the producers.

[Brian Green]

Sure.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

And it was kind of like a running gag in our family that had.

[Brian Green]

My God. So this is so familiar. Des, let me. Let me share with you.

[Des Bishop]

And this is another strange cross of our lives.

[Brian Green]

Yes, this is another strange cross of our lives. Your dad was almost James Bond. My dad was almost Davy Crockett.

[Des Bishop]

No way.

[Kristen Joy]

Very similar.

[Brian Green]

My dad. We moved here to Atlanta from Chicago. We moved to Atlanta. I'm like, I don't know, 12 years old, 13 years old. And my dad gets us all in the car one Saturday, and he says, we're going down to the Westin, which is a famous hotel here, where you go up to the top and the spinning restaurant. Every city has one, right? So he says, we're going to the Westin, and, you know, it's going to be a day. Bring a snack, whatever. We get down there, and all of a sudden, we're standing in line with a bunch of other grown men just standing there in this near this conference hall. And I'm like, dad, I thought we were gonna go to the top and the spinning restaurant and the whole nine yards. He said, you know, like a good Irish father, Shut up and eat your snack. Right? We're gonna get there eventually. We're standing in line. That's what people do. Because back then, we did not have.

[Des Bishop]

Did you just press a sound effect? I didn't know you had the Ableton right there for you.

[Brian Green]

Oh, buddy. We got the whole. That was accident.

[Kristen Joy]

That was an accident.

[Des Bishop]

It was a good placement before the punchline.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that was a little before the p. I guess I'm not getting the producer job either. So. So the afternoon just goes on and on. You know, we don't have cell phones, video games, that. The afternoon goes on and on. And then eventually my dad leaves us with this lady so he can go into the conference room. He's back five minutes later. So what, dad? What in the world did we just do? We didn't even go to the Top of the building. What happened? He says, well, I'm auditioning for Disney's new version of Davy Crockett. My dad wasn't an actor. He wasn't good looking. He was just a guy. And he's like, what the hell?

[Des Bishop]

He responded to like a general call.

[Brian Green]

Out, like a cattle call does. I don't even know how my, my dad is so far from an actor or a model or anything. I don't know. It was just this random occurrence in my life. I was, I was just kind of piggybacking off of that story about 007.

[Des Bishop]

But yeah, so my dad, he had. He had one line in Zulu, right? Oh, yeah, Zulu. It's a Michael Caine, you know.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Des Bishop]

And then he had a few lines in A Day of the Triffids, which most people don't know, but it's actually like a cult B movie. However, the. The claim to fame of Day of the Triffids is In Danny Boyle's 28 days later, the opening scene where he walks in London, Cillian Murphy walks in London, and there's nobody there at the beginning of this zombie apocalypse.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

It's actually a homage to Day of the Triffids. So it is. Look at that. It is a film that did inspire some. But my father played a bind pilot, a blind pilot, and Day of the Trivets. And he was in a Blue Nun commercial which actually aired in the United States.

[Brian Green]

What's a blue. What's Blue Nun?

[Des Bishop]

Blue Nun is like a cheap wine.

[Brian Green]

Oh.

[Des Bishop]

And he's having a picnic and he says to his, you know, the woman in the commercial, he says, red or white, darling? And she says, blue.

[Brian Green]

So there you go. Did your dad, when. And I know your dad has passed, did your dad, when he was up alive, did he support what you were doing? Did he, did you feel like you got support from your dad?

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, yeah. Both my parents were actually very supportive of that. My mother only cared that I got a degree that was like her thing. And my dad always, straight away, I mean, he, he had a career in entertainment.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, actually.

[Des Bishop]

So what my dad was James Bond was all about was the sacrifice that he made. Because in my lifetime, my father was in retail. He was most of my. My life. He was the general manager of Burberry on 57th Street. So he was just a retail guy, but that was because he decided that the acting, modeling life wouldn't be a stable life for his kids. So sure, my dad was near James. It is a funny show, but it's really about the Sacrifice that my father made for us, you know, that's it. So. And he was very supportive. And actually the hook of. My dad was near James Bond at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival 2010 was at the end. Actually. My dad used to come out, so I. Even though he was. He was dying, but we flew him over to Edinburgh and right at the end, he would walk out and it would bring the house down. So that was a. Brett. That was a great experience that we had at the end. So not only was he supportive, but he took part his. His final act. Literally, no pun intended. His final act was to. To do. We did a show together.

[Brian Green]

This is where our paths diverge. My friend is still wondering when I'm gonna get a real job. Even when I had a real job, he was wondering when I was gonna get a real. A real job. Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

But my dad. My dad was an immigrant. My dad wasn't from the States. He was raised in Cork and actually lived a lot of his life in the. In the uk yeah.

[Brian Green]

In. When he. When he came to the United States, did he find it tough? Because I had relatives that were from Ireland and they. They found it tough to come over to the United Were. Things were different way back then. Right.

[Des Bishop]

Well, he had been in London for years, you know, so he was quite a cosmopolitan dude by the time.

[Brian Green]

He sounds like a Renaissance man. He sounds like a real badass, actually.

[Des Bishop]

What's funny is my parents always lied to me about how they met. I didn't find out until very late and tell us that they actually met at an AA meeting.

[Brian Green]

No. Wow.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. Yeah. By the way, they didn't. They didn't remain in AA in my lifetime. They were sober. But after they met, they went back drinking. But they originally met at an AA meeting, which of course, you know, is frowned upon in the recovery circles.

[Brian Green]

Of course. You cannot date. You cannot date the. Well, at least for the first couple of years. I understand that you cannot date. It's like, way frowned upon to date other people who are trying to get. So.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Because you enable each other.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. Supposedly. They always said they met at a party, which was. Which was a total lie. But. Yeah, so they. They. They met at an A meeting, but then. Yeah, they lived in. You know, my father was. You know, my father never had a driver's license. This is how urban. My dad was a lot. Never had a driver's license.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

Until he died. He went from London to New York and he. He never drove.

[Kristen Joy]

He didn't.

[Brian Green]

Never drove. That's so interesting.

[Des Bishop]

But the. He Married my mother, who was an absolute control freak. Neurotically so. So she was quite happy that he didn't even have the ability to drive himself around.

[Brian Green]

She could keep.

[Des Bishop]

She could keep.

[Brian Green]

Keep eyes on him. Yeah, that's right. So your parents, at one point weren't sober? They got sober. They.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, in my lifetime, I never.

[Brian Green]

And then sober again. Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

But I. I never saw them drinking. They were sober before I was born.

[Kristen Joy]

Except for the Blue Nun.

[Brian Green]

Except for the Blue Nun, yes.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, and the Blood of Christ, obviously. The two. The two bits of alcohol that were. That were allowed.

[Brian Green]

That's right. Alcoholics all over say it's for the Lord.

[Des Bishop]

By the way, you were joking, but I don't know if it was before we started recording, but you were talking about being an Irish Catholic from Chicago. You know, I have a lot of Catholic material, but I don't really normally do it in the States, But I was in Chicago recently and I did it, and my God, Very Catholic Chicago.

[Brian Green]

Very Catholic.

[Des Bishop]

I was. I was surprised.

[Brian Green]

So my. So I grew up Irish Catholic. I went to Irish. I went to Catholic school all of my life. And, you know, it's just like, so deeply embedded into my experience. I know.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, trust me. More suffering than people realize.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, a lot of suffering. A lot of guilt.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

Shame.

[Brian Green]

Hundreds of hours in therapy to pull back the Catholic veil that is the original sin. Like, you're born just a bad person. You got to figure it all out. That's how it goes. But it was such a part of. Of my existence as a. Especially as a young child when we came here to Atlanta, where it is not. Definitely not as Catholic.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

My. All of a sudden we didn't. We stopped going to church as much. My dad didn't care if we read the Bible. Like, all. I think the. The veil kind of got pulled back a little bit.

[Des Bishop]

How annoying that you got to Atlanta where church is actually fun.

[Brian Green]

Yes, that's right. And I had to go to Catholic church.

[Des Bishop]

Went from, like, boring, you know, like, he is Lord, you know, really boring songs to, like, black church. Yes. Hallelujah.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Go to a Southern Baptist. She got married at a. Like a Southern Baptist?

[Kristen Joy]

Well, no, a black Catholic. It was the first black Catholic church.

[Brian Green]

Black Catholic church.

[Kristen Joy]

I'm not Catholic, but my husband is. And so. Yeah. And they have so much fun at this church, I am telling you. Full band. Sing. Full choir.

[Brian Green]

Big fan.

[Kristen Joy]

Oh, yeah. It was so much fun.

[Brian Green]

I was like, are we doing rails in the bathroom or what's going on? When does the party start? Here. I mean, people.

[Des Bishop]

Where's my mother? My mother was such an Irish American Catholic and so traditional that sometimes the priest would sing the Our Father and she would, like, say out loud, like. Could hear her. She, like, you don't sing the Our Father. Anything fun at mass was a problem. Oh, and you know what else my mother hated? If, like, every now and then, like, something would happen, like, the priest would give a homily or, like, you know, I don't know, at a. At a wedding or a funeral, somebody would say something, and people would applaud. My mother's like, you don't applaud at mass. There was no joy. There was no joy allowed at church.

[Kristen Joy]

I know there's people up in that church, like, dancing.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

You don't. You don't. You don't applaud? No, not according to my mother, you know?

[Brian Green]

No. You want to know something? So, 1. We get to the Atlanta. We go to church first couple of months, and there's, like, this young priest, but he's very traditional. Right. He's the kind of guy, like, he gives the homily. It's right on the nose. It's all about Jesus Christ suffering for your sins. You got to do this. He's not one of these, like, young reformist priests. He's very much traditionally. So he's standing outside the. The. The church as everyone walks out as a greeting. And so my mom has us. My dad's not there for whatever reason, and. And we are wearing deck shoes. I don't know if you know what deck shoes are. They're just, you know. Yeah. Deck shoes. Right. So he's Irish. Yeah. He's cultural.

[Des Bishop]

I got. I got the references from both sides of the Atlantic. Yeah, we have. We have shoes in Ireland. You do?

[Brian Green]

Because I went to Ireland, got stuck in a snowstorm in Dublin, and all I saw was dating Nate naked for five days on rtv.

[Des Bishop]

Naked and afraid.

[Brian Green]

Naked. No. Dating naked. Oh, right. They reveal vaginas. One minute, one.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, that show.

[Brian Green]

Yes, Yes.

[Des Bishop]

I forgot what that. That was. That was hilarious.

[Brian Green]

So we're walking outside, and the priest stops my mom, and she says, oh, you know, I know you're new to the. To the community, and I just wanted to welcome you and just let you know that Jesus frowns upon uncash. Upon casual shoes. I noticed your children have all of them on. Let's change that for next week. Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

Literally. Jes. Just wore sandals. Jesus.

[Brian Green]

I couldn't und. I was. I wanted to say something, but of course, I would get smacked So I didn't say something, but it was just like, even at my young age, I was like, what an.

[Podcast Announcer]

What an.

[Des Bishop]

If Jesus was alive today, he'd be wearing Birkenstocks. I don't know what these people are talking about.

[Brian Green]

Jesus was a mushroom taking hippie. That's what he was. I mean, it's almost conclusive, but let's not get everybody.

[Des Bishop]

You can.

[Brian Green]

Really? Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

Everyone will get all riled up on the religious. I mean, I was, I, I was, I was, I was very casual Catholic in my, in my younger years.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, me too. I was an altar boy in the whole nine years, the whole thing. But somewhere around 13 years old, I don't know, 13, 14, I started making out with girls while I was supposed to be an altar boy. You know, like they had me back in the past. The little cloak room or whatever.

[Des Bishop]

The rectory.

[Brian Green]

The rectory. The rectumry. Yes, that's right. So I have to. I'm dying to know this because I saw it in your. Your special when it came out, which is available, by the way, on YouTube and absolutely brilliantly. Hilar. Hilarious the first 10 minutes. Knock me on my ass every time I watch it. Aggressively moderate. It's a great time to be.

[Des Bishop]

Well, you know, it's funny. I, I nearly called the special aggressively moderate.

[Brian Green]

You should have. That would have been brilliant.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah. But then actually Hannah was thinking like, you don't want to, you know.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. You don't want to turn anybody off.

[Des Bishop]

We called it Of All People. And the reason why it's called Of All People is because Hannah got invited to the MTV Music Awards and I accompanied her. And then we ended up in like, the Irish tabloids with a picture of us together. And in one of the Irish, like, website, you gossip websites, the opening line of the article was, des Bishop, of all people, showed up at the MTV Music Awards. So I was like, oh, I love that Irish passive aggression. No. And that's it. That's the type of passive aggressive that I, I like. I actually found that entertaining.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's pretty funny, actually.

[Des Bishop]

But then I was like, of all People, that is a great title. So actually the title is kind of out of Spite. It's a spiteful title.

[Brian Green]

I love that when you and Hannah got to get like, just. The Irish tabloids, they keep. They keep tabs on you fairly.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, a little bit. In Ireland.

[Brian Green]

In our.

[Des Bishop]

In Ireland, I'm pretty. In Ireland, I'm pretty well known. But you were actually. I'm sorry, I interrupt you. You were about to praise my special. I Should. I don't like interrupting praise.

[Brian Green]

Interrupted my compliment. Now I can't Even remember I'm 47. What do you want me to do?

[Des Bishop]

You said you enjoyed the first 10.

[Brian Green]

I enjoyed that. Well, the first 10 minutes knocked me on my ass. You're so quick. You're so witty and fussy and fiery and I love it. I think it's, it's my type of comedy. It's right up my alley.

[Des Bishop]

Well, can I just, can I wrap myself out?

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

I, in the edit, I, that is not actually the beginning of how I performed it. So I, I made a decision to, to come out hot, but that's not how the show actually started. So you that, that you made the right call. Yeah. The first, the straight white guy stuff.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

It was like actually 15 minutes into the show.

[Brian Green]

I see.

[Des Bishop]

That's a secret magic.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Editing magic. I see comedy sometimes. I don't know, I think it's got a lot of musical. And you made the right call because you came out hot and you hit the beats and it was, it's just get you going from, from right from the get. But I wanted to share that in that special, you say that Hannah wants kids, but you're like, eh, I'm not so sure about that. And how are you feeling now? A year and some change after the special was recorded. I'm assuming it was recorded in 2023. A year and some change after that. How are you feeling now? Where does that debate stand inside of your, inside your household? Because I'd like to offer a little advice, if I might.

[Des Bishop]

Well, first of all, it's not a debate because it's not really up to me. I mean, obviously it's up to me in terms of making a deposit, but in terms of whether we have kids or not, it's basically like up to Hannah.

[Brian Green]

Sure.

[Des Bishop]

Now, here's the truth. I always knew that we're probably gonna have kids, you know, but, but my personal thing is that, that I was always big into having kids. The only reason I'm like, not as into it now is because I just got a bit older. A lot of my friends, their kids are like, they're close to being kind of done right. And I just, the thought of just beginning because I've seen, see, Hannah hasn't seen what I've seen. I've seen how tough it is, you know, So I, I'm just like, I, I, I was at a, a time where I had accepted that I might not have kids, and I was fine with it. But I've never been like anti kid, you know?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. You're not like, I don't want to have kids. You're like, wait, I'm all, I'm, I'm getting to a point in my life where I'm might be slowing down, feeling the aches and pains a little bit more and I don't know if I can go through. Yeah, 18 years.

[Kristen Joy]

That's when Brian decided to have 30.

[Brian Green]

That's when I decided to have 30 children. So I want you to know and.

[Kristen Joy]

I'm on your team because basically I'm not anti kid.

[Des Bishop]

I just anti backpack pain.

[Kristen Joy]

I haven't had any of my own and now I have all these 30s that I watched. Right.

[Des Bishop]

So what's your advice?

[Brian Green]

My advice is do it. Being an older father, my advice is do it. First of all, first of all, get some Advil and do it. Yeah, Vicodin, whatever your doctor happens to prescribe.

[Des Bishop]

I need Advil. I need Advil to get to the regular stuff.

[Brian Green]

I know, me too, child.

[Kristen Joy]

We just talked about that.

[Brian Green]

I'll share with you something about having. You know, in Europe. I feel like this is far more common than it here is. Here in the United States you'll see silver haired dads all around, young kids running around. It's pretty common to have in New York too. Yeah, well, that's true. Here in Atlanta you have them at 16, 17, by the time you're 30, you're done with them.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, but every, all anybody I knew from back in the day, like, you know, because I'm in recovery myself for a long time. Like a lot of the guys from like tougher backgrounds than me, they all come into the rooms like, oh, I'm trying to get my head together. I had a kid and they were like 18, 19 years old. I was like, what are you, stupid? But now I think they were smart. I'm the idiot. Yes, I am the idiot. Idiot.

[Brian Green]

But I'm going to share with you that ads because I no longer drink or do drugs because I had children. I can never be hungover and wake up with children. Not at, not at my advanced age. I'm lucky that I can get out of bed without breaking a hip. Here's the thing. When you have children at an older age, you have the advantage of hindsight. You've seen so much stuff in your life that you are wiser, you are calmer, you are able to handle. You are able to know which hills to die on and which hills not to die in. You're not as fiery and fussy as you were when you were a kid. And I'm telling you, as an older father, I think I enjoy the moments so much more than my friends who had children at 20 years old or 19 years old or 22 years old. They would.

[Kristen Joy]

Because they're still growing up.

[Brian Green]

They're still growing up. They're going out and partying and they're missing this thing and they're doing. Not doing that thing. And it's not that the children, you know, the children ended up fine. Some of them. Some of them are custody, I'm sure.

[Des Bishop]

Well, that's why I joke with Hannah. I'm like, you know, it's a 50 chance, it's going to be a horrible kid. You want to roll the dice? Yeah. I have a friend. I have a friend that has three boys. Same as my parents, boys. He had three boys. Two of them are a disaster. You know, that's a bad. That's a bad hit rate, man.

[Brian Green]

That is a terrible hit rate. But how old was he when he had the kids?

[Des Bishop]

No, he had. He. He was normal, actually. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he was 30 or something.

[Des Bishop]

Old school. Old school. Like, had him when he was in his 20s.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Listen, I'm telling you, I don't think you'll regret it. You'll. You'll feel the aches and pains. You'll feel a little bit, you know, foggy sometimes from not sleeping. Once you get past the first year, you're gonna be fine. You're gonna love it. It's gonna be incredible. I promise. You guys don't.

[Des Bishop]

I have no.

[Brian Green]

Hannah wants one. Go for it.

[Des Bishop]

I have no. I have no doubt. It's gonna be fine. And obviously a lot of time you're just, you know, you're just joking about.

[Brian Green]

Of course. Of course. I know you are.

[Des Bishop]

One of. This is a new joke. This is not in any special. I'll share with you now.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

My current joke about the not wanting to have kids is people say, you know, oh, you gotta have kids. You don't want to die alone. Which people said to me a lot before I met Hannah. You don't want to die alone. And my message there is, you're actually only dying for a very short period of time. It's actually, it's not like it's a very small percentage of your life. So, you know, a kid in this economy, 30 year commitment for what, a couple of morphine induced conversations? I'll talk to a nurse. You're off your face. You're off your head. You're off your face. Give me. Give me fentanyl and a nurse. I'm good. I'll be fine. My mother. My mother actually had fentanyl at the end, by the way. I wasn't being dismissive about the seriousness of the fentanyl episode pandemic. I was actually. My mother had a fentanyl patch.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Des Bishop]

In her last couple of weeks.

[Kristen Joy]

It does provide.

[Brian Green]

Chris and I have this new theory that we have. So a couple of weeks ago, we. We found this Instagram reel. And the Instagram reel is a bunch of old ladies. And I would imagine they're from somewhere in Eastern Europe. They've got the, you know, kind of like the gypsy garb on, and there's this music playing. Travelers. Excuse me? Travelers. I get. Someone got upset that I said the word gypsy traveler. So everyone's sitting around a T. Old ladies, none of them younger than 80 years old, passing around the biggest plate of cocaine I have ever seen in my entire life. And they are snorting. I'll send it to you. I swear to God.

[Des Bishop]

There.

[Brian Green]

Then there's a part two to this video also, which shows them up and dancing like wild people.

[Des Bishop]

Wow.

[Brian Green]

So, yeah.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, we're like, why not?

[Brian Green]

We're reading all about these people down in Florida, in the villages. They got STDs going through the roof. They're making busts on ecstasy and heroin and all this stuff. I think you do drugs when you're really young, and then when you're really old and in the middle, you have kids and you straighten your life out a little bit, but toward the end, who cares? Do it. Get it. Yeah, because they.

[Des Bishop]

They said that since Viagra came out that, like, STDs have really risen within. Within nursing home and.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

Retirement environment. I just want to point out that I think European Gypsies. Romany Gypsies, the Romany. I don't think they get offended when you call them gypsy. The travelers is the Irish. Irish nomadic people don't like being called gypsies. So I think the travel thing is Irish travelers. I think Romani gypsies don't mind being called gypsies. I think. But don't quote me on that.

[Brian Green]

Well, I told the, like, someone put it in, sent it to. In a comment or an email or text message. And I thought to myself, everyone's so fucking sensitive. Like, there's a television show in America, My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding.

[Des Bishop]

I mean, if they are, they are Irish Travers. Those ones.

[Brian Green]

Oh, they are.

[Des Bishop]

My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, that is actually a show about Irish Travis living in the uk. And there's a big population of them in the uk.

[Brian Green]

Uk. Wow. And, yeah. And does it, are they as ostentatious as they're made?

[Des Bishop]

I mean, you know, the show every, the show is, is anyway, so just, just in case you get jammed up.

[Brian Green]

Again clearing that up.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Brian Green]

All right, so listen, to, put a pin on it. Have kids, you can call me anytime you need to. We'll talk it through. We'll start a support group for dads in their 40s.

[Des Bishop]

Yes, there's, there's plenty of them. The problem is I'm going to be a dad in my 50s, just so you know.

[Brian Green]

48. True. Yeah. You got to get on it if you're going to have kids in your 40s, you got to get on it right away. I know.

[Des Bishop]

And Hannah's too busy right now, so we're not going to be doing it in the next year.

[Brian Green]

Well, both of y' all are, are busy. You're tutoring now, so.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, well, listen, I mean, come on, I'm going to be an older dad. I got to make enough money to get some.

[Kristen Joy]

You got to. And the nanny.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Minimum one.

[Des Bishop]

Minimum one.

[Brian Green]

Minimum Minimum one nanny. But if your wife is anything like my wife, that nanny is going to be at least 60 years old. There's going to be no woman coming in this house.

[Des Bishop]

I mean, I'm not going to share it, but I, I, I have a friend, sadly lost his wife young. But anyway, the, the, the, the in laws got the nanny and there was, they, they made a bad call.

[Brian Green]

Oh, they did?

[Des Bishop]

Well, I mean, good call, a bad call. Depends what side of the divide.

[Kristen Joy]

You're a good call on the nanny's part.

[Des Bishop]

But as a result of that story, you can be sure our nanny is definitely going to be 60 years old.

[Brian Green]

That's what my wife said. We were looking for a nanny one time and you know, just things are like one of those days. Out of control, everyone can't, everywhere I'm trying to record. And my wife finally, okay, let's look at someone who can help us with the kids. And we start going through whatever website it was, we start going through that and within five minutes my wife was like, nope, nope, nope, we don't need a nanny. And I was like, what are you talking about?

[Des Bishop]

Because you're not supposed to look on seeking arrangements for it.

[Brian Green]

That's right. SugarDaddy.com.

[Des Bishop]

Sorry I interrupted you there.

[Brian Green]

No, go ahead, go ahead.

[Des Bishop]

I, I, I actually want to get a Mandarin speaking nanny. Oh, I was thinking about introducing Our child to Mandarin from the get.

[Brian Green]

You should definitely. That's when. So my wife is Venezuelan and so we have a bilingual household and as children they absorbed that. They took them a little bit longer to.

[Des Bishop]

To speak.

[Brian Green]

Speak, I guess clearly in both languages. But once they did, they now speak to their mom in only Spanish. They speak to me in only English and it is brilliant. Beautiful. And they are young kids. They're under the age of seven, all of them. And so it's like. But they absorb that like a sponge. Now. I've been trying to learn Spanish for 15 years and the only time I know Spanish and you're right about this, is when I'm in Spain. That's the only time that I really know Spanish because I'm forced to know Spanish right now.

[Des Bishop]

You get around, you have to learn it because as your kids get older, they're going to be like talking about you, talking shit about.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, they already do. They do that in English and in Spanish and in Spanish.

[Des Bishop]

Hannah and I, Hannah and I live in the Lower east side, right on the border of Chinatown. And actually I would have the opportunity to send my child to a public school. Still a public school, but actually a Mandarin speaking public school.

[Brian Green]

Oh, that's brilliant.

[Des Bishop]

That. Yeah, that's my sneaky goal. If it happens.

[Brian Green]

I know.

[Des Bishop]

I started this conversation saying I'm not going to kids. I've literally already picked out grammars.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, you've been thinking about it.

[Brian Green]

He just doesn't want the Irish tabloids.

[Des Bishop]

Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

[Brian Green]

Don't worry, I can promise you no one listens to this, to the show. You'll be just fine. So what, so where you're starting a tour now? I just saw the. Was on your Instagram yesterday. I saw that you just announced some more dates. How?

[Des Bishop]

I mean, honestly, that's all because the special, but particularly the clips from the special, they've done so well, did fine on YouTube, but the clips did insanely well to the point where, like, it, it really did change my American trajectory. I mean, my Irish career was, you know, I've been doing it in Ireland for a long time, but in America, I mean, I was virtually unknown. And I'm not saying I'm like, you know, gangbusters, but like, I'm literally selling tickets for the first time.

[Kristen Joy]

So that's. Congratulations.

[Des Bishop]

That's like a new phenomenon. So all these dates are literally as a result of the clips doing well. And it has been fun, I have to say. Like, it. I've been doing comedy a long time. It's a long time since I felt like, like a new sort of fresh departure in my career. So. So this has been quite exciting, you know.

[Brian Green]

So, you know, I've kind of bumped into you back, you know, when the pandemic started, and then I watched the Chinese special, then I got on your Instagram. And so. So I've been watching all the stuff that you've been putting out, and those clips, those four or five that you're talking about, they blew the fuck up. So much so that our intrepid researchers found a Reddit, a whole subreddit about DEZ Bishop, Right? And so the subreddit is post after post. This guy must be hot right now, because he keeps popping up on my Instagram. I found this guy on Instagram. This guy's my favorite. There are so many people out there that are, like, fawning over your comedy, and I think, think that's wonderful. Like, I think that's fantastic. And just like we were talking about with Hannah, this is such a direct way to reach your audience, people who. Who will like you. If the algorithm somehow manages to favor you in any way, shape or form, you can find a whole new audience of people that. Who are really your fans. And so this is. I love this story that you've been doing this for a while. It's like one guy said on the. On the Reddit, he. What did he say? He said something about, wow, this gu. You know, found his 15 minutes or found his star or whatever. And I thought, yeah, it only took him 20 years to get there. I mean, it's only 20 years.

[Des Bishop]

Well, you know, it's funny because they. So the Irish people. So, like, what happened was a lot of these people were like, he's ripping off Bill Burr. Right? So there'd be people in the comments, be like, he's ripping off big, but. And then the Irish people would be in the comments, what are you talking about? Ripping off Bill Burr? He's been doing it long. Maybe Bill Burr is ripping off Judge Bishop. So there was this. There was this class clash of clash of people who'd, like, never heard of me before. And then all the Irish being like, no, what are you talking about? Like, we know this guy forever. But. But honestly, in terms of, like, Reddit and stuff like that, like, I don't, you know, because a long time in Ireland, I. I avoid all that. Right? Yeah, but it's funny that you're. You're seeing all these positive comments. That's the sweet spot. Before I'm actually well known Here people are like, we like this guy the minute you get well known. Like, this guy loves himself.

[Brian Green]

And you're right about, about this. Along with the sweet. Along with the sweet. And positive comments, of course, there's six for every nice guy. Right? It's awesome. And you shouldn't be reading your own Reddit post just like we don't.

[Des Bishop]

My favorite. My favorite. All for years. And this is not just for me. This goes for so many comics will eventually get this comment, which is, this guy is not as funny as he thinks he is, which I love, because I always think, how funny do they think I think I am? Because I promise you, I'm more critical of me than you are of me. I promise you.

[Brian Green]

You had to say react. We get this comment once every two months. Someone on the reviews or in the comment section will be like, you know, wow, they sure do think they're funny.

[Des Bishop]

That's one of my favorite comments.

[Brian Green]

And I, I got on air and I'm like, well, I mean, do they really think we think we're funny? That I know we obviously realize how mediocre we are at this.

[Des Bishop]

But. No, but on, on, on a point, positive note, it is, it is exciting for me. And like, I had a, I had a strange career where, like, honestly, if I, if I started doing my jokes to you right now from, like, 1999 to 2010, you wouldn't even know what I was talking about, largely because they were so Irish focused. And the Irish, of course, were eating it up, but it was very parochial, very specific to them. Yeah. So it's actually quite exciting for me to have like, a broader, you know, a broader audience. And actually going to China actually helped me to realize that, like, I needed to, to broaden my horizons of subject matter. And this is, this is, this is nothing negative about my experience. And I love all that. And I love all that material too, of course. But obviously this is exciting for me to have branched out to something broader.

[Brian Green]

Well, yeah. And I mean, you know, America is your home, right? I mean, right now, it's your home. And so, And America has a huge population. It's extraordinarily diverse. It's a big country.

[Kristen Joy]

Love comedy.

[Brian Green]

Loves comedy. Comedy. You can eat lunch just touring around maybe for the rest of your life. Right. That's a, that's a great thing to do. Where island is, is wonderful. And it's your. One of your home bases, but it's smaller. And so, you know, I can understand why it's exciting to then broaden your audience to the Biggest entertainment, I guess audience in the world, which is. But the United States of America.

[Des Bishop]

Also creatively for me because I have a weird identity because when I went to Ireland at 14, I went on my own. Right. I went to boarding school on my own. My.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Des Bishop]

In New York.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Des Bishop]

So I've always been like a hybrid. Like I've always had my feet in both camps. But I was, I, I was never able to like explore aspects of my American childhood in the ways that I am now. It's like, it's very fun for me. In fact, I just did a show two nights ago in a suburb of New York and a bunch of guys I grew up with, like, I didn't even know they were coming. They were in the second row, but they were at the show. And then it was like I was even to. Able to indulge even further in that American childhood. And there's actually a lot of stuff I could never talk about in Ireland because they went. Wouldn't have gotten it.

[Brian Green]

They won't understand.

[Des Bishop]

So, so that. And also the other thing that I've been enjoying exploring is like I'm a New Yorker. Like a real New Yorker.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

And it's a quite specific part of my identity which means nothing really to Irish people other than the New York accent is like, oh, good fellas, man. Joey, Joey from Friends. How are you doing?

[Brian Green]

How are you doing?

[Des Bishop]

It's been fun to be able to sort of lean into that a little bit again, just from a creative point view of, of you, you, you. Oh, you find, you find jokes that perhaps I wouldn't have found if I wasn't able to lean into that.

[Brian Green]

Can I dig in a little bit? On, on moving over to, for moving over to Ireland when you're 14 by yourself. Is that like, was that a. That's a mutual decision, right. You and your parents talk about it. Hey, this would be good for you. You can go find out where you're from. Or is this. How did you get that seems so weird to me that they would joke.

[Des Bishop]

The joke in my show is that I got kicked out of school. That's 100% true. I say the reason I got kicked out of school is because I had a problem alcohol with. So my mother had this ingenious idea to send me to Ireland. Now there are two half truths in that statement. Cuz obviously the truth can really get in the way of jokes. Did you just put balloons on?

[Brian Green]

No. You did.

[Des Bishop]

I don't even know how that happened.

[Brian Green]

I Know, we don't either. It happens to us on occasions. But notice how we knew it right away. We didn't even miss a beat. We were like, whatever.

[Des Bishop]

So anyway, so the two half truths are one, I did have a problem with alcohol. Yeah. I started drinking at 12 and already by 14 my mother was pretty sure that it wasn't going to work out for me with the booze.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

But that wasn't really 100% the reason I got kicked out of school. And the second half truth is my mother didn't send me. I did. A cousin of mine put the idea in my head about going to boarding school in Ireland because she was helping me like with my summer school homework. She was older than me, she was visiting from Ireland. And I put the idea into my parents head and then when they looked into it, when they look into it, it turned out to be like way simpler than they expected. Not that expensive.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

And. And my mother later on in years because she gets, you know, she gets a hard time. My. Well, she's dead now, but my mother got a hard time for like shipping your kid off.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

Like why. But in her mind because she really thought that I was going to have problem with drugs and alcohol. She was correct. So she actually thought that I'd probably be safer over there.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

You know, I had some, I had some other family members in New York that were like really struggling and you know, amidst her Irish American Catholic anxiety, raised by alcoholics herself, by the way, she's a child of alcoholics. In that anxiety of just like her whole life has been fear of alcohol and alcoholism. She kind of thought he'll be safer over there. And you know, I think largely she was right.

[Brian Green]

She did it out of love. She. Yeah.

[Des Bishop]

And education wise it was a lifesaver for me because boarding school just suited me. I mean, I don't think I would ever send my kids to boarding school, but boarding school absolutely saved me. The structure, the forced study, the camaraderie amongst the boys. All boys school by the way. I was that like, that was a big. I needed, I needed less distract, I needed less distraction.

[Brian Green]

Right.

[Des Bishop]

So everything about the decision was in my favor. But obviously there was, there is a bit of oddness.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Des Bishop]

About suddenly being in another country on your own, staying with cousins that you've never met before.

[Brian Green]

It seems like a great adventure. But I think back to 14 year old Brian and how, how scary that would have been to like okay another country, even if you're loosely connected to it or in your case intensely connected. To it. You've never been there.

[Des Bishop]

Never been.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And then to go over there. But I can see why your mom did this. She did it out of love. She was like, I'm gonna do everything I can to make sure that my child doesn't go down the path that I went down, that their dad went down, and that our family members have gone down. And this could be the hardest thing I ever did. Because if your mom was like, my mom, she loved you to death. Irish Catholic moms just love their children to death. That's what. Why they have 40 of them per family.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah, Well, I. I think actually the main reason she did it because she suffered so bad from anxiety. But nobody actually talked about anxiety. So I actually think if my mother took a Xanax, I never would have went to Ireland. She was freaking out. She was, like, freaking out way too much. But I'm glad. I mean, I. Yeah, imagine. I can't imagine my life without it.

[Brian Green]

Honestly, I don't think you'd be the same person today.

[Des Bishop]

And I was very lucky, too, in terms, like, Ireland. Ireland changed a lot. Like, when I arrived, it was the tail end of, like, what I would consider, like, an old Ireland kind of Catholic, you know, very rigid, conservative kind of life. And Ireland, like, as. It just changed, like, a hundred percent since I got there. And I was able to experience it, witness it, observe it, and then talk about it on stage. So there's just so many aspects of, like, the life that I had in Ireland that was, like, really lucky.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, well. And it made you. And then it gave you a home base to then go field your comedy. Like you had purchase over your own story and the. That you had to the Irish people. And you were able to kind of get in their heads and their legs because you were one of them. So then they relate to it, I've seen.

[Des Bishop]

But they don't accept us. They don't. They don't accept Irish Americans as Irish, by the way. Yeah, well, just so you know, they can't have everything. When you tell them that you're Irish, they're like, you're not Irish, you're American.

[Brian Green]

I would never say that. Like, I went to Dublin, and when I went to Dublin, I've always wanted to go to Ireland. So my wife and I, we fly. She's pregnant. We're going to do one of these. You know, what do they call those? Baby. A baby moon where we go. So we fly. All right. European. And then our last stop is Dublin. This is in February, I think, January or February.

[Des Bishop]

I thought you were going to try to have the baby in the EU.

[Brian Green]

Now. We're trying to get the kids Spanish passports. And I was like, shit, we just should have had the kids in Spain. So when I. The night before we fly over there, it looks like it's going to have some snow in Dublin. And I'm like, oh, that's pretty normal. There's snow in Dublin. Of course there's snow in Dublin, but there's really not. There's never snow in Dublin. And so it snowed like two hours a half, three feet. It just. We. We were the last plane that landed. The cab slid all the way to the hotel. When we got to the hotel, people were sleeping in the lobby because they could not go anywhere else. And people were getting like, you know, there was turnover in the hotel, and so the hotel was struggling to feed people. It was really weird. We were stuck in Dublin snowstorm.

[Des Bishop]

But a half an inch of snow will do that in Ireland.

[Brian Green]

Half an inch will do that in Atlanta. But the people were so, you know, we could get downtown and walk around the bars and stuff like that. And I just. The people were so lovely. It's such a cosmopolitan city. The. The people lovely. We have friends that live there. What's your favorite city in Ireland?

[Des Bishop]

Well, I mean, Cork is my spiritual home. Yeah. I started my comedy career and I. I consider myself like an honorary Cork man. I'm gonna say Cork. I, you know, my dad was from Middleton and then I went to college in Cork. My grandmother's from West Cork, so I'm going to say Cork. But. Yeah, but. But Dublin is a great international. I mean, there's just no doubt, like, when I, when people visit me in Dublin, like, they are just blown away by how it is and how great the food is. Like, Hannah's parents, you know, we were just there. Hannah's parents were in Ireland for the first time literally a week and a half ago. And they. They were blown away by how great the food was.

[Brian Green]

We had. And then the hotel room service or the. Or the food in the restaurant downstairs for five straight days because, you know, we could walk to bars. There were. Bar. But they couldn't get the food, so no one else had food. So it was like the hotel stuff or, or whatever. And I don't know who was cooking the food, but I expected the food to be shite. And it was really good. I. I gotta be honest. Yeah. So we sat around a hotel room for five days watching Dating Naked.

[Kristen Joy]

Yeah, that's.

[Des Bishop]

That's, you know, that sounds like a nice. That sounds like a nice trip.

[Brian Green]

Honestly, it was the best end. Best end of our babymoon.

[Des Bishop]

The best thing about Ireland is the. Is the people. Like, the people are the great resource of Ireland and you. So you can't beat it.

[Brian Green]

Like, you know, they are lovely. And now we can say we know one for sure. Bishop, you can go to des bishop.net don't ask. We're not going to get into the dot com. Des bishop.net for his tour schedule and all his dates. You must go watch his YouTube special. Please. Of all people. Yes, of all people.

[Des Bishop]

It needs more views. You know what? You don't even have to watch it. Just click it on and then go on. Just let it play.

[Brian Green]

Play. Yeah, let it play.

[Des Bishop]

In the background.

[Brian Green]

There's some smart, enterprising young.

[Des Bishop]

My ego. My ego is completely reliant on views these days. This is. This is what the algorithm has done to us as human beings. Yeah.

[Kristen Joy]

Quantum computing.

[Brian Green]

Quantum computing.

[Des Bishop]

But people. But I have to say, the feet. The feedback on the special was way more positive than I was expecting.

[Brian Green]

It's really good.

[Des Bishop]

I do. I do think people will. I do think people will enjoy it. I'm more confident in saying that now than before I put it out because I literally. I almost didn't put it out. Only Hannah was like, you have to put this out. I literally. I doubted it 100%. I wasn't going to put it up. That's how critical I was of it before it went up.

[Brian Green]

So nice.

[Kristen Joy]

We're glad you put it up.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, we're all our worst critic. But from an outsider's point of view, someone that didn't know you until 48 minutes ago, it's a really good special. Des is really funny. Check out all his shit. Check out Breaking China. Honestly, one of my favorite shows from the pandemic. One of the gems in the. The. In the sea of entertainment that was.

[Des Bishop]

Headed our way during the neverending sea of entertainment.

[Brian Green]

That's right. All right, you go tell Hannah you. You're ready to have a baby. Tell her to get away from those dangerous tennis machine tennis ball machines ready to have. Have a baby. And you guys get to work. Dez, will you come back and see us any.

[Des Bishop]

Anytime. Anytime somebody drops out, all I need is about 10 minutes notice. I'll crank up.

[Brian Green]

We're taking you up on that. Oh, you just got. I got you on t. We're taking you up. Of all people on YouTube. Please go check it out. And then of course, you can have you can find him on Instagram and check out all the reels that we have been talking about. DEZ Bishop, gentleman in the scholar. Not necessarily in that order, but we love you nonetheless.

[Kristen Joy]

Thank you.

[Brian Green]

Thank you very much.

[Des Bishop]

Thanks. Great to meet you guys.

[Brian Green]

Great to meet you, too.

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[Des Bishop]

Yay.

[Brian Green]

You know, I think my dad is going to be pissed that I told that story about Davy Crockett. I think he's gonna be upset.

[Des Bishop]

Probably.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. He seems to want to forget it. Every time I bring it up, he's like, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't remember that. I'm like, dad, come on. He even had the Davy Crockett hat on. Like the raccoon with a little tail. Yeah, yeah.

[Des Bishop]

So that's.

[Kristen Joy]

Funny story. And just because, too, I actually went to one of those calls, too, because our daughter, years ago, wanted to. It was like a Disney.

[Brian Green]

Oh, really?

[Kristen Joy]

Call. And I know the spot. I know the hotel.

[Brian Green]

You know the hotel. You know the spot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And to be clear, I don't think he was actually auditioning for actual Davy Crockett. I think he was probably like, you know, extra number five in the credits. Right? But whatever it was, it was funny. It was funny at the time. It was a long day. I do remember that. We were, like, standing in line for forever, and my dad just kept telling us to shut up and sit down.

[Des Bishop]

Shut up. Sit down.

[Kristen Joy]

Eat your snack.

[Brian Green]

Eat your snack. So, Des Bishop. So wonderful. Des bishop.net pleasure. Yeah, honestly, he's like.

[Kristen Joy]

He's like. He's just a friend.

[Brian Green]

A friend. And, yeah, one of those guys. He can call me when he has those kids. And I'll. I'll tell him all about it. I'll tell him how to navigate the waters as an old man. Here's what you do. Agree to take the late shift, Des. Agree to take the late shift.

[Kristen Joy]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

It's the better of the two. I'm positive of it.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy]

Because the early shift is early.

[Brian Green]

Yes. That's going to be difficult for them because, you know, they're like late night out on the town, doing the standup comedy thing, both of them. And so when they have to adjust their schedules to get a baby involved, that's going to wake you up every one or two hours. The first year is tough, Des, but you'll get through it, I promise. And I say go for it. That's my personal opinion. I'm sure Hannah is going to love me for.

[Kristen Joy]

But what an interesting life he has had. I really admire the way he's, you know, transversing the. The globe, seriously, doing different things in different countries. And now. Now he's going to conquer the U.S.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he's on tour right now. There's lots of dates in the Northeast, it seems like. And then he's going back overseas, but there's lots of dates in. In the Northeast. You go to deadbishop.net and get tickets. I know that if you go to his Instagram, you will have been served some of his content because he's got a couple of clips that are extraordinarily popular. And I think from what I'm reading on the Internet, like on Reddit and other. Other places, a lot of people have been served up his content over the last couple of years as he's gone more viral and people are becoming more familiar with him. And what you do hear a lot is comparisons to Bill Burr. But if you watch his special, I think you'll see that it's not. It's not the same, right? No, he is. He does have kind of have that, I guess, Boston ish attitude, but he's from New York, not Boston. So there you go. So there you go. And I don't know, I just like him. I like his condom.

[Kristen Joy]

I'm excited to see what happens next with him and for him to be our friend.

[Brian Green]

Well, what happens. What happens next is that everybody goes and watches, of all people.

[Kristen Joy]

And he. Yes, they should. And then he's gonna completely explode.

[Brian Green]

He's gonna explode just like everybody else that comes on the show. Yeah, they completely blow up right after. No, not because of us, please. I think it's clear that maybe we.

[Kristen Joy]

Are a little good luck charm.

[Brian Green]

You never know. Hey, listen.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy]

A little sprinkle, a little dusty, you.

[Brian Green]

Know, little tasty teener of the commercial break. They said, well, they put in their time. They've done their penance. Let's go ahead and give them an arena tour. They've been on the commercial Break.

[Kristen Joy]

Exactly.

[Brian Green]

They've. They've been in purgatory for long enough. Come on out, kittens. Listen, there are influential people that listen to this show. I just know it. And who those people are, I don't know because they won't communicate with us. But I'm sure, sure of it. I know it. Sometimes I listen to other shows and I go, hey, we talked about that. That must have been because we talked about it. They talked about it. That's such a big ego. All right, des Bishop.net of all people on YouTube. And now we know why it's called of all people.

[Kristen Joy]

I do love that.

[Brian Green]

Because of all people.

[Kristen Joy]

To be with Hannah at the, the award show.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's DEZ Bishop, but he is. He is a silver haired fox. I do have to say that he's just as good looking on that camera as he is on the other camera. He's good looking on camera in general.

[Des Bishop]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I wish I had a touch of like that, you know, that silver haired fox thing going on. But I haven't gotten silver hair yet. I haven't gotten any hair yet. I'm hoping that shows up anytime soon. I was thinking about doing like the follicle replacement, you know. No, please.

[Kristen Joy]

Well, if you do, you know who you gotta call?

[Brian Green]

Frankie B. Yes. Yeah, of course. Waiting for those follicles to jump out of my head and reproduce themselves. I wish Frankie would make a new video so we could check in on his hair. I know, but you know, it is.

[Kristen Joy]

Like the last one we did. It was long.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, but that was. Yeah, you're right, you're right. But he had it slicked back, you know, because he said he was balding on the top. So I think we have to see the top of his head. Frankie, can you do drone shots of your head? Do you have a drone? You can fly around your house and give us some head shots. We'd appreciate it. All right. TCB podcast dot com. That's where you go. More information about the show. All the show notes with the links to the guests, information to the YouTube special for Dez. All that stuff is available on the website tcbpodcast.com all the audio, all the video of our guests and selected episodes are up there. We would appreciate the it if you would go and take a gander. Also, you can get your free TCB sticker now available. Hit the contact us button on the website, give us your physical address and we'll send you a sticker. No problem, no must, no fuss. We're happy to do it. Add the commercial break on Instagram TCB podcast on Tick Tock. And we'd love it if you would dial us up 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Text us, call us, leave us a voicemail. We would love to hear from you. So many of you doing that. And we'd appreciate it with even more communication, certainly. Also Chrissy and I are making certainly happy to do it. Of all people.

[Kristen Joy]

Of all people.

[Brian Green]

Of all people. Also, Chrissy and I will be making a big announcement coming up in the next couple of weeks about live shows. So stay tuned. I don't know why I said that. I should have just told them where we're going. YouTube.com the commercial break. All right, Chrissy, I guess that's all I can do for now.

[Kristen Joy]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

But I'll tell you that I love you.

[Kristen Joy]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

I'll say best to you.

[Kristen Joy]

Best to you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you. DEZ Bishop, thanks for coming on. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time. Chrissy and I always say we do say and we must say goodbye, Sam. That's my opinion.