TCB Spring Break replay: Gusta!

Summary

The Commercial Break

TCB Spring Break Replay: Gusta!
Released: March 20, 2026
Hosts: Bryan Green & Krissy Hoadley

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Commercial Break delivers a characteristically chaotic yet heartfelt blend of personal storytelling, irreverent banter, and comedic musings on life’s peculiarities. Bryan and Krissy riff on Bryan’s misspent youth, dangerous housemates, band days, their show’s Venezuelan connections, and share a sneak peek at an exceptionally talented member of their team—all with typical self-deprecating humor and warm reflections on friendship. Notably, the episode also teases a Jeremy Piven story for next time and celebrates the community surrounding their favorite Venezuelan podcast, Escuela de Nada.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tina’s Backstory and the "Tree of Trust"

Timestamps: 02:30 – 15:00

• Who is Tina?
  Tina, a 30-year friend of Bryan, was recently a guest host. Bryan finally shares “Tina lore,” explaining how she and a circle of "misfit toys" friends were at the center of his wild, couch-surfing years.
• Tree of Trust:
  The studio is affectionately described as the “Tree of Trust," evoking a sense of playful, supportive camaraderie.
• Classic Quote:

  Bryan: "I wanted to be the next Eddie Vedder, but that’s not gainful employment—especially not with a voice like I have." (04:16)

2. Bryan’s Wild Youth: Drugs, Halfway Houses & the Search for Stability

Timestamps: 04:14 – 17:50

• The “Weed House” and Misguided Ambitions:
  Bryan narrates anxious moments in a house full of dubious white dudes who “didn’t think they were white,” selling weed and playing “white Bob Marley”.
  • Bryan: “It was the land of the misfit white people.” (05:45)
• Intervention at Waffle House:
  An AA friend and sponsor rescue Bryan from a paranoia meltdown, grilling him with The Big Questions while Bryan drowns his woes in syrupy waffles.
  • Bryan: “Can I have more waffles?” (07:15)
• Halfway House Hell:
  His subsequent placement in a halfway house on Buford Highway is described as “certainly the lowest point” in his young life, living with grizzled addicts and surrendering all his money for food and shelter. (08:07–09:27)

3. Band Days & Life Among Strippers/Escorts

Timestamps: 11:08 – 20:54

• Rules of the House:
  Recounts moving into a strict roommate’s place (“If you touch anything on my side of the fridge, I’ll break your face”) facilitated by Tina’s network, and how chaos ensued thanks to hidden drug use and secret escorting.
• The Move-In with Strippers:
  At 17, Bryan moves his belongings—including a mattress tied atop a Ford Taurus—into a townhouse with his stripper girlfriend and her roommates. He’s oblivious to the sex work happening around him (“Oh, she’s a prostitute. Oh, okay. Alright. Well, high times.”)
• Classic Self-Awareness:

  Bryan (about his role as boyfriend): "I think she would call it, does he have any money available? Can he pay the rent?" (17:46)

4. The Power of Old Friends & Parental Reflection

Timestamps: 14:48 – 15:42

• Bryan reflects on having “no direction,” family issues, and the pressure and privilege of being the oldest of four boys, emphasizing how first children end up being “guinea pigs” for parenting styles.

5. Musical Misadventures – From "Chopper Johnson" to Kevin’s Audition

Timestamps: 21:19 – 36:28

• Joining Bands:
  Bryan shares how Tina led him to audition for the band "Chopper Johnson," where he essentially walked in homeless and left with a new band and place to stay.

  • Bryan: “By the end of that two hours, I’m in the band. Do you want to live with us? And I have a place to live.” (13:37)

• Unlikely Ties:
  The band’s manager was also Rush’s manager, and Bryan muses on the oddities that seem “cool” when you’re young but strange in retrospect.
• Kevin’s Spotlight:
  The hosts shine a light on their Venezuelan video editor, Kevin, playing a recording of him performing (31:23–36:28). Both are blown away by his musical talent and passion.

  • Bryan: “This is already so much better than anything I have ever recorded. Musically, this is good.” (32:09)

  • “You can paste over a lot of shortcomings... when people feel like you’re being authentic.” (36:28)

6. Authenticity in Art – Kevin vs. Corey Feldman

Timestamps: 37:53 – 43:27

• Comparing Talents:
  Contrasting Kevin’s heartfelt musicianship with actor Corey Feldman’s awkward new music (“Characters”), Bryan and Krissy question Feldman’s sincerity and muse about why real, passionate creators like Kevin struggle for an audience.

  • Bryan: “Kevin’s there. He’s in it. He loves the song... Corey Feldman is trying to emulate everybody else.” (38:55)

• GRAMMY “Consideration” Rant:
  They poke fun at the superficiality of "consideration" campaigns (GRAMMYs, Webbys) where anyone can pay to be “considered.”

  • Bryan: “You’ve been nominated to be nominated for consideration.” (41:31)

7. Escuela de Nada, Venezuelan Connections & the Importance of Community

Timestamps: 44:11 – 59:37

• Escuela de Nada Origin Story:
  Bryan shares how his brother-in-law Gustavo, a long-time EDN fan, inspired their interest in the Venezuelan podcast. The show’s success is attributed to serving as a cultural “home” for the Venezuelan diaspora.

  • Bryan: “EDN provides them some comfort. It’s like being at home. They’re friends when you don’t have any.” (47:08)

• Landing the Nacho Redondo Interview:
  Bryan recounts how booking an interview with EDN’s Nacho Redondo was a huge deal in his Venezuelan family, leading to a jovial, marathon conversation (the interview runs long because they’re enjoying themselves).

  • “It was as if the king had showed. I don’t know what king of what country...” (50:58)

• Personal Touch:
  Nacho, Leo, and Chris from EDN record a personal video message for Gustavo, further highlighting EDN’s community spirit and impact.

8. Perspective & Gratitude for Podcasting

Timestamps: 58:40 – 59:55

• Bryan and Krissy reflect on the privilege of making a living by hanging out with each other, recognizing the rarity and luck involved.

  • Krissy: “I get to laugh with my best friend every week on a podcast and make a tiny bit of money doing it.” (58:48)

  • Bryan: “We have it pretty fucking good.” (58:43)

9. Teasing the Jeremy Piven Story

Timestamps: 61:32 – End

• The hosts tease a future story about refusing to interview Jeremy Piven, hinting at a hilarious, awkward encounter and promising details next episode.

  • Bryan: “Jeremy Piven is the only guest we have literally refused to interview… even when he was right here in the studio.” (61:32–61:50)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On sudden adulthood:

  Bryan: “When you leave the house at 17 fucking years old, you don’t know anything.” (15:42)

• On "consideration" marketing madness:

  Bryan: “You’ve been nominated to be nominated for consideration.” (41:31)

• On band life’s perspective shift:

  Bryan: “When you’re 17 and you don’t know shit, you don’t know you should sign a lease and there should be only authorized people in your house at any given time.” (18:59)

• On finding joy in the everyday:

  Bryan: “Many podcasters out there would die to have five people fill a room and listen to what they have to say. I know some of them personally.” (58:57)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:30 – Studio banter, who is Tina?
• 04:14 – Early stories of drugs, halfway houses, getting help
• 11:08 – Band auditions, roommate horror stories
• 13:37 – Audition turning into home and band
• 17:46 – Moving in with strippers/rent drama
• 21:19 – Launching into “Chopper Johnson,” the Rush connection
• 31:23 – Listening to Kevin’s impressive musical performance
• 37:53 – Comparing Kevin’s authenticity with Corey Feldman’s career
• 44:11 – Backstory: How Gustavo connected Bryan to Escuela de Nada
• 53:15 – Nacho Redondo's famous wife cameo and anecdote
• 58:43 – Gratitude for the podcasting journey
• 61:32 – Teaser: The Jeremy Piven incident

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Tone & Takeaway

Bryan and Krissy maintain their signature blend of loose, candid storytelling and sharp-witted, affectionate ribbing—the “Cheesecake Factory of comedy podcasts.” Listeners are treated to stories both ridiculous and relatable, an appreciation for true artistic passion over manufactured celebrity, and ongoing reminders to celebrate the ride, chaos and all.

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For next time:
Stay tuned for the full Jeremy Piven story—a rare case where Bryan & Krissy walked away mid-interview!

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“We have it pretty fucking good.” – Krissy (58:43)

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Transcript

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[Ms. Magic Maggie]

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[Brian Green]

On this episode of the commercial break, I was just kind of a mess. And when you leave the house at 17 fucking years old, you don't know anything.

[Chris Hoadley]

No, you think you do though.

[Brian Green]

Oh, I did. Oh yes I did.

[Chris Hoadley]

I got this.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I got this. I got this mattress I'm gonna take to my stripper's house, my stripper girlfriend's townhouse. And we're gonn. Little did I know they were running a little side business out of the house. It was called escorting. People were sneaking in and out of the house. The windows they were. They were opening the sliding glass door at like 3 in the morning. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. 2:30 in the morning. Oh yeah, cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Chris and Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chris. Brian Best you out there in the podcast universe. Happy to have you back in studio here with us. Day number two, how you feeling? You Settling back in. Yes.

[Chris Hoadley]

Feels. Feels like a warm, snuggly blanket.

[Brian Green]

It does.

[Chris Hoadley]

Kind of just got back into. It's the. The. Our cavernous cave here.

[Brian Green]

It is the Tree of Trust. As you. As you might. You're in the little nest with the birds in the Tree of Trust. Yeah. And again, thanks to Tina for hopping in.

[Chris Hoadley]

Absolutely.

[Brian Green]

She did a great job. Just a great job. It was wonderful to sit and have a conversation with her. I actually was respons. Responding to some text messages because people were like, love the episodes with Tina. Who is Tina? I don't think I ever explained to those who are new to the show who Tina was. So there must have been four of those messages. Who is Tina and how did she get there? Yeah, Tina is a little birdie. She's another little birdie. She flies around the show. That's right. In the Tree of Trust. She. I have been friends with tina for over 30 years. I have known Tina. She's a family friend. She's a good, dear friend of mine. A little story about Tina that I probably should have told when she was here, but we'll tell it when she's not. When I was living. I ever tell you this story about how one night I thought I was getting cocaine and we got crystal meth, and then we thought we were crystal meth dealers. So we were okay. Tina may or may not have been around me at that time. And I was living in an apartment with a dude who had a job in construction. And he was sober, like hardcore sober. Had been an alcoholic and a drug addict for many, many years. And his rules of these houses. This house was insane.

[Chris Hoadley]

How did you get hooked up with him?

[Brian Green]

I was traveling around couches because I was a real fucking shithead. I mean, I wanted to be the next Eddie Vedder, but that's not gainful employment. Wanting to be the next Eddie Vedder. That doesn't pay very well. Do you know what I'm saying? Especially not have a voice like I do. So I was just like, couch hopping and some. Eventually I said to one of my friends, a guy who was also in a. Listen to this story. This is crazy. Okay, here we go. Brian. Story time with Brian. I was at a house where everyone was. It was the weed house. Everyone was smoking weed. It was like a real white man. Ding. Like the white men who didn't think they were white.

[Chris Hoadley]

The Bob Marley. Yes, white Bob Marley.

[Brian Green]

Well, more like drug dealers. Hardcore. One too many, you know, Snoop dogg albums. Notorious B.I.G. hanging on the wall. You know what I'm saying like. And they were dealing, you know, $10 bags of weed out of the window at the shitty apartment complex. But we all were friends with them, Tina included. And so we would always go to this house. There was always weed around. There was always like drugs, alcohol, all this shit. It was like a den of iniquities. And the crazy shit. I could whole episode just talking about this house. But let me get here in the afternoon. I was couch surfing somewhere. I probably didn't have a place to stay that night. The guys told me come crash on our couch. It was a house full of people, as it always was. Of weird people in and out of the house. You know what? Hold your wallet really tight like that

[Chris Hoadley]

kind of the misfit toys.

[Brian Green]

The land of the misfit white people. I mean, that's what it was, right? So I never forget. We're watching tv, they're passing around this joint. I'm hitting it, and I start to get. I go super para. Like, super para.

[Chris Hoadley]

I remember those days.

[Brian Green]

I'm just in my head, it's all spinning around. I can't breathe. My heart's racing too fast. I'm dead. I'm dying. I can't think. Am I thinking? Am I breathing? Should I think about breathing? Yes. I can't move. And I freaked out. And I called the one person, the one person that I thought could help me, and that is a guy from high school who went to aa, who started. Who, like, got sober in high school. He didn't even have enough time to become a drug addict or an alcoholic. But he went straight.

[Chris Hoadley]

He nipped it in the butt.

[Brian Green]

Do not pass go. And still to this day, I believe the guy is sober.

[Chris Hoadley]

Good for him.

[Brian Green]

But he was a friend in grade school, he was a friend in high school. So I know his. I have his phone number in my little black book. Because back then you didn't have a phone, you had a black book. I open it up, I call him, and I mumble jumble my way through a conversation. And an hour later, he is picking me up with his AA sponsor and we are headed to a Waffle House where the AA sponsor is buying me something to eat and asking me a series of questions. Here's some of the questions. Do you believe that alcohol and drugs is negatively affecting your life or your relationships? And I'm eating like I've never eaten before. And I'm like, huh, Definitely, definitely. Can I have more? Can I have more waffles?

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Chris Hoadley]

More syrup.

[Brian Green]

Do you owe any drug dealers any money? Probably. Yep. Definitely. As a matter of fact, I think I. I think I still owe the people at that house money. Okay, we're going to figure that out. We're going to figure that out for you. Are you willing to submit to a higher power? Uh huh. Definitely. Definitely. Can I have some more syrup with these waffles and some coffee and a high C orange juice, please.

[Chris Hoadley]

Anything you say.

[Brian Green]

Anything you say. And these guys are so serious. They're just like staring me down and I'm like, ha, ha ha, ha, ha ha. 24 hours later, I am in a halfway house.

[Chris Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

A halfway house.

[Chris Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

For people who have problems with drugs and alcohol.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

This was probably certainly the lowest point in my young life. At that point, I didn't know how I got there. I didn't know why I got there. I don't really like a room. I had a room with two other guys.

[Chris Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

In a shitty apartment complex on Beaufort Highway.

[Chris Hoadley]

Okay. Wow.

[Brian Green]

Where it. It's an immigrant community. Anybody who's been to Atlanta knows Buford Highway. Right?

[Chris Hoadley]

Fantastic food.

[Brian Green]

Fantastic food. Not. Probably not the first choice of apartment complexes.

[Chris Hoadley]

No.

[Brian Green]

And we are in the worst of the worst. And I am now in an apartment complex and the whole building is this organization that is really just ripping people off. But I'll explain that in a second. So I sign my life away. I'm willing to work. All my money's gonna go to these people. These people are gonna provide food and shelter and all this other stuff. And I'm like, okay, what? You know, whatever. At that time, you got to understand that I just wanted some kind of stability.

[Chris Hoadley]

Stability.

[Brian Green]

I was gonna say, yeah, I'm probably 19 years old at the time and I did not have the ability to get an apartment on my own. I don't think I had a vehicle at the time. No, I didn't have a vehicle at the time. Didn't have a vehicle at the time. I just wanted some stability. And I felt like this was a way to get some stability and then I'll, you know, I could still have my friendships. This was not that this became like a whole fucking thing. It was like basically I was like encompassed in a cocoon of really old men who had very serious problems with drugs and alcohol. And I was like a young kid in this apartment complex. It was crazy.

[Chris Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

It lasted about two weeks. I flew the coup. I'm sure I flew the coop. And I had a friend and he said, come live with this guy. He needs a roommate. Right? And it's a $50 a week you can live with him. It was in Cobb county, which is a much.

[Chris Hoadley]

Were you working at the trattoria?

[Brian Green]

I was not yet working at the tutorial. That would come about two years later. But so what I do is I go and I live with him. And then one night, as I've told the story before, we thought we were getting some. The girlfriend of this guy here were the rules of the house. You can only use this half of the refrigerator. If you touch anything in my side of the refrigerator, I'll break your face. If I hear you after 7 o' clock at night, I'll break your fucking face. If you turn on the TV after 9 o' clock at night, I'll break your fucking face. If you come in that door and bring friends that I don't know, I'm gonna break your face. You cannot be in the living room when I'm watching TV or I'll break your face. This guy was the meanest son of a bitch I had ever met my entire life. And he was sober for many years, but he. He had learned nothing. But he was sober, right? He was. He had learned the opposite of whatever, sober people, right? So I live with him. Okay. All right. Tina is around me at this time. Tina and I are spending a lot of time together. You know, sometimes he knew Tina because. Here's how it goes. I think it was Tina who actually introduced me to this guy because she knew his girlfriend. His girlfriend was the one that was selling us drugs on the side. And he had no idea that his girlfriend was a drug addict. Right? Okay.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, no, Whatever.

[Brian Green]

So one night, Tina and I are doing whatever we're doing in the room. Quiet as mice, probably three o' clock in the morning, you know, whispering to each other. And you think I'm kidding. I'm not kidding. Whispering to each other. And we're looking through the creative loafing and in the creative loafing in the back, musicians wanted, right? And there's one, you know, rock band needs singer. You know, send tapes to this address or call this phone number. So the next. So Tina circles it and she says, call this phone number. So the next day, the first thing I do is I call that phone number. And they say, yeah, come on and drop your. Drop your off. Drop your tapes off at this address. So two days later, at like 8:00 clock at night, 9:00 clock at night.

[Chris Hoadley]

Did you have the 33P tapes?

[Brian Green]

I had the tapes in my bag. I had all of my lyric books, which are embarrassingly embarrassing.

[Chris Hoadley]

You found those a Little.

[Brian Green]

I found those a little. Well, Chelsea found them. My. My best friend's wife found them in the back of her car.

[Chris Hoadley]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

And loud.

[Chris Hoadley]

And we're gonna do the AI stuff to some. And we did.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, we did some of it, but. And I'll do more of it. It's bad. It's all bad.

[Chris Hoadley]

Teenage angst.

[Brian Green]

So I go to the front door of this office building, like it's an office complex. You know, the offices that kind of look like houses. You know, like two story houses. Right. Brick. The whole nine yards. Where you might see a doctor's office or a small lawyer's office or an accountant or whatever. Okay. So we go to one of these in Buckhead. Tina drives me there, and she waits in the car. And I go up to the front door, and I knock on the door, and the guy, one of the guys from the band, answers the door, and he's like, hey, what's up? And I'm like, yeah, I'm Brian. I talked to one of you guys on the phone. And, you know, and he's like, cool. You're, like, early. We're still up here practicing with another guy, so just drop your tapes off and, you know, we'll get back to you. And I'm like, yeah, actually, I kind of drive drove all the way out here, so can I just, like, maybe, like, hang out? And he's like. I go, can I maybe get, like, some of your music so I could put something to it? And he goes, yeah, okay, come upstairs, sit in the. Sit in this room. And then when we're done, we'll talk to you. And I'm like, okay, cool. So I do that, but I never say another word to Tina. And when I. What happens is they get done with auditioning another guy. I go in, I spend the next two hours talking and auditioning for them. Just right into it. They play music. I start singing.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I grab my lyric book. I start singing. By the end of that two hours, I'm in the band. I'm in the band. Do you want to live with us? And I have a place to live.

[Chris Hoadley]

Sweet.

[Brian Green]

When I come outside, like, four hours later, Tina is still sitting there. There is no communicado because there's no way to communicate. There are no cell phones. There's nothing. I never thought that she would just sit there and wait for me.

[Chris Hoadley]

She probably. I mean, if it would have been me, I would have thought, well, he's making headway. This is great.

[Brian Green]

This is it. Yeah, she thought I'm going to ride his coattails all the way to fame and fortune. And she still thinks that to this day. That's Tina. Tina is still waiting outside of the commercial break for all of this. Yeah, she is a great friend and she was wonderful when she was here, but Tina and I go so far back. She is intertwined in so much of my history in my misspent youth. And I mean, honestly, I was just a shithead. I was just like. I don't know about shithead. I was lost. I didn't have any direction. The parental situation was pretty bad. Not because they were bad people, but because they just were also in shitty situations themselves. And so I was.

[Chris Hoadley]

I mean, four boys is a lot.

[Brian Green]

It's a lot.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And I was the first of the boys. And so, you know what they say about firsts is that you bang your head on every wall. Right. Every rule is more strict for you. Everything you.

[Chris Hoadley]

You know, that's so true.

[Brian Green]

They're trying to. You're trying to figure out how to parent with the first one.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

So that the ones behind them get the benefit of some experience. So I feel bad for my first because I know he's getting the worst version of parenting. We're trying everything and seeing what sticks, you know? You know, being firm and being nice and being empathetic and not giving a shit and all this other stuff. And that was my parent. That definitely happened with me. But then in combination with some things that were going on at the house that were not any having anything to do with being good or bad parents, just sickness, illness, mental illness. And so I was just kind of a mess. And when you leave the house at 17 fucking years old, you don't know anything.

[Chris Hoadley]

No. You think you do, though.

[Brian Green]

Oh, I did. Oh, yes, I did.

[Chris Hoadley]

I got this.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I got this. I got this mattress I'm going to take to my stripper's house, my stripper girlfriend's townhouse, and we're going to live there. Little did I know they were running a little side business out of the house. It was called escorting. People were sneaking in and out of the windows. They were. They were opening the sliding glass door at like 3 in the morning. I had a mattress that I took from my dad's house. I took a mattress. I took anything I could fit in a backpack. And I took the only clothes that I had, which was an orange 33 shirt. That's. I've always. The 33 is kind of always stuck with orange shirt that a black 33 lettering on it was like an old baseball jersey or something. And my green bell bottom pants and my blue Doc Martens and anything I

[Chris Hoadley]

could fit in a bag, your wallet and your chain.

[Brian Green]

That's it. And a mattress. And I took the mattress and we put it on top of a Ford Taurus and we held it down for 17 hours.

[Chris Hoadley]

My family had one.

[Brian Green]

Everyone had a Ford Taurus. You didn't live in the 90s or early 2000s if you didn't have a Ford Taurus. And we went and we moved in with two dancers who, we didn't know it at the time, were like four months behind on rent. But they were like, if you pay the rent, it's your place. But then we'll also come in and out of the house and hang out. It was a nightmare. And they had a third girl that lived with them down in the. In like the bottom of the townhouse. And so you would walk in, it was a three story. You would walk in. There was a balcony overlooking a big living area and bedroom off to the right. Then there was a bedroom on bedroom and a kitchen on the middle area with a little dining dinette. And then you could walk up to the third story and there was a bedroom up there. So you know what? My friend took the bedroom upstairs, I took the one next to the kitchen. And then I also happened to be like, I would say dating one of the dancers, but I don't think, I think I would call it dating. I think she would call it, does he have any money available? Can he pay the rent?

[Chris Hoadley]

And he's cute.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he's cute. That was cute. That was like a little lost puppy dog. So like the second night we're there, by the way, the second night we're there, there is no electricity because the girls have had the power shut off.

[Chris Hoadley]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

So there's no electricity. And that's a whole different story. There's no electricity, everything's dark, it's hot because it's like summertime. It's hot in there, you know, all this. Anyway, so it's like 10 o', clock, 11 o', clock, whatever time of night I go in, I lay down on this bed. Can't remember if this girl cat was with me or not. But that's irrelevant to the story because I'm not sleeping very well because of how fucking hot it is. And because it's my first time away from home, right? I'm like. And I don't know what I'm doing. And I realized quickly I made a huge mistake. And My dad, the only reason why he's talking to me is to ask for the mattress back. That's all he cares about. He wants his mattress back. I mean, come on. And I hear. And then they had those big, like, blinds, like the plastic blinds on the back sliding door.

[Chris Hoadley]

And I hear one place, too.

[Brian Green]

And I was like, dave, Dave. And then I hear. And then I hear the door downstairs slam. And I'm like, oh, that's. This must be that girl who I did not know all that well. I only met once, but she was living downstairs. Why would she live downstairs? I don't know. She's living downstairs because you're 17 and you don't know shit. You don't know you should sign a lease and there should be only authorized people in your house at any given time. I don't know. I'm thinking, like, this is how the real world works. This is how adults live. They just come in and out of each other's houses at any time. And so I go, try to go back to sleep. And then I hear, oh, yeah, get a big papa. This goes on for 10 minutes. And then the door opens and closes. And then.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, God.

[Brian Green]

And I'm like, what just happened? Next morning, I wake up, or I'm up or whatever, and Dave's, you know, spinning around the kitchen. He was like, did you hear that? And I go, I hear it. I think I was involved in it. It was so close. I don't know. And he goes, I think she's a prostitute. And I was like, what? He goes, I think she's a prostitute. And I'm like, no, she just had a boyfriend over, snuck back or whatever. So then, you know, later on that day, the. The other girls come over, the other dancers come over, and I was telling the story. I was like, this crazy, like, three o' clock in the morning. And she goes, oh, yeah, that was her client. And I go, oh, she's a. She's a sex worker. She's a prostitute. And she goes, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how she makes money. That's why she's still living here, is because she can pay the rent. And I was like, oh, okay. All right. Okay. Well, high times. Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

I have lived an interesting life.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes, you have, for sure. Yes, no doubt.

[Brian Green]

And someday my children will learn about this life through this podcast.

[Chris Hoadley]

Through the podcast. I was gonna say, we enjoy hearing about it.

[Brian Green]

And that's why this is the last commercial break episode ever. And it's all going away tomorrow, so get you download now. Download now. All right, I want to talk about our video. Speaking of chopper Johnson and 33p.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. Because chopper Johnson was the band that joined as part of that last story.

[Brian Green]

That's right. Chopper Johnson was the band that I joined at that time. And I went and I lived with them, and they were already a regionally successful band, but they had some problems with their lead singer. He had some. He also had some drug and alcohol issues himself. So they kicked them out of the band after they had already produced a couple of albums. And I would come to find out that the. That the manager of Chopper Johnson was the manager. Get this. Of Rush.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, right, that's the Rush connection.

[Brian Green]

Yes. Because the. The. The bass player, Gary.

[Chris Hoadley]

Similance.

[Brian Green]

Similance. Similance. Oh, God. Me and Gary. There's always one in the band. There's always one in the band. And it was Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary. We had two Gary's actually. We had a drummer Gary and a bassist Gary. It was Gary and Gary. I like the drummer Gary, but the bassist Gary. We didn't get along all that well, let's put it that way. Gary D. I think it was Gary D, actually. But the bassist had also found himself out of a home at some point in his life, lived in Canada, and this guy took him in. I think about that story now and I wonder how weird that is. I mean, I'm not saying. I'm just saying years later, I reflect upon that story and I go, huh, interesting. Well, you know.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. You get a different perspective on things.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Then you go, cool. I mean, Rush ain't my favorite band, but the band manager just takes the street kid in at the tender age of 14 and becomes a pseudo dad to you. How cool is that? And you were what passed around the band members? Cool. Awesome. It was life on the road, hopping from tour bus to tour bus, experiencing what? What? Oh, I don't know about that. I'm 17 and I don't know, but cool, dude. Now I think about it and I

[Chris Hoadley]

go, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Brian Green]

Epstein, release the files. All right, let's take a break, because when we get back, I want to tell you that we have an extraordinarily talented video editor. And it's not just about his video editing skills. Chrissy, this kid might have an actual chance of being a musician coming up in the future and doing something with it. Video editing the commercial break reels to 12 people is not. Might not be his lot in life. Right.

[Chris Hoadley]

So I'm excited to hear.

[Brian Green]

I found him online. He did not bring this to our attention. I found it. Oh, and then I said, you got to give me some of this because I want to. I'm going to let the audience know just how talented our video editor is. Let's take a listen when we get back.

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[Chris Hoadley]

And there it was.

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That hologram trading card. One of the rarest. The last one I needed for my set. Shiny like the designer handbag of my dreams. One of a kind. Ebay had it. And now everyone's asking, ooh, where'd you

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[Chris Hoadley]

He does do a great job.

[Brian Green]

Yes, he really has. And so I found just by. And I think maybe it was Astrid who kind of turned me onto his social media. And then through scrolling through his social media, I found a video of him singing a song. And I thought to myself, wow, that's. That's pretty good. You know, video editing is one thing he does, but maybe he should think about being a talented musician. Because if there's one thing that Brian knows, it's being a talented musician and

[Chris Hoadley]

navigating the waters and musicians and wasting

[Brian Green]

away your life when all that talent is just sitting right inside of you. The commercial. You know, working in radio was just a ploy to get on radio. Working in podcasting, is just a ploy to get you to listen to 30 more. 33 penis songs. If I could find a way, if. If Spotify would allow me to upload them, right? But I thought. I said to Kevin, I go, dude, you're really talented. And he was like, oh, thanks, man. And I was like, have you ever, you know, done anything with this? And he's like, yeah, not really, like, here and there. I play and I make music for myself and I'm trying to, like, get people to listen to it, but, you know, that's hard. It's hard to find an audience. It always is hard to find an audience, except for some people. I'll give you an example on Tuesday, coming up this next Tuesday, you're going to hear an interview that I did while Chrissy was gone with a guy named Nacho Redondo or Nacho Red, from a podcast called EDN Escuela de Nada, which we have talked about many times on this show before. It's a show from Venezuela. It's. There are three Venezuelans living in Mexico City. They are essentially, you know, in respite from their own country. They can't go back. So they're doing this show huge. They're huge. They just did Netflix as a joke. They sell out theaters. They had, I think at one point they had like the most Patreon subscribers of any, you know, Spanish podcast. They're huge here. Here's why I say that. Because they really did. Like lightning in a bottle. They didn't have any problem finding their audience. I asked Nacho, how do you do that? How do you get the.

[Chris Hoadley]

Give us the secret?

[Brian Green]

Basically, he said, be Venezuelan, right? So from now on, Chrissy and I are going to be doing duolingo here on the show. The Rosetta Stone gonna be translated. But seriously, listen to that episode because it will the longest episode in commercial break history. It's almost two hours. It's insane because I tried to let him go after an hour and he just refused. He was like, no, let's keep talking. And I was like, hey, I'm into it. Cool. Anyway, so all this Venezuelan stuff coming to head here. I thought I would let you listen to some of Kevin's music and if you Want to watch YouTube.com the commercial break, he's going to have to edit his own shit now you're going to

[Chris Hoadley]

know what it feels like seeing him watch us watch him.

[Brian Green]

Yes. That must be nerve wracking. Actually, I had to give him a heads up. I'm like, I just. I'm gonna listen to your music on show today, so. And let's. Let's take a listen. Hold on one second. Because I think, if I'm not mistaken, do I. Is this.

[Chris Hoadley]

Did you load it in?

[Brian Green]

No, it's not. I didn't load it in. I'm just wondering. Imaginal farts are. No, that's not. Oh, no, that's me on 96. 7, the legend. I thought I had some 33 penis in here. We could do some. We could do some comparison between the two voices, but let's take a listen. It's just. Song is like seven minutes long. Let's all get through it. I'll stop if I need to. You need to take a break. Go to the bathroom, get some popcorn.

[Chris Hoadley]

I'll be good.

[Brian Green]

Okay. All right. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Kevin. Hold on. Dude. Kevin said he hasn't done anything, and here he is in a room full of people listening to his music.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, he's got a full audience.

[Brian Green]

That was a little deceptive. I'm already pissed. I'm already pissed at his talent.

[Chris Hoadley]

It's Kevin, the guitar.

[Brian Green]

Kevin's playing the piano.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, he's playing the piano. Nice. Sounds beautiful.

[Brian Green]

Sam, This is already so much better than anything I have ever recorded. Musically, this is good.

[Chris Hoadley]

Well, they're not in the retirement home.

[Brian Green]

Well, that's true. It's not the same vibe as the 12pm house party in East Cobb, Georgia. When I look into your eyes, I can see a lot.

[Chris Hoadley]

Good old November rain.

[Brian Green]

This is November rain,

[Chris Hoadley]

Brian. This is what you wanted to do. You were with Astrid's family in the mountains. When you sat down to the piano, this is what you were going for.

[Brian Green]

I was going for this vibe, you know, beautiful falsette, you know, thick false voice coming through with a vibrato. And what came out was, so take me home, just set me free. Which is what everybody else who paid a thousand dollars to be in the Swiss Alps on New Year's Eve wanted to hear. They were all here for. He's even got the motion. Like he's into it.

[Chris Hoadley]

The emotion of it. I know.

[Brian Green]

Fuck this guy, man. Fuck. I needed this. I needed a little bit of sassy sauce to go along with my gravelly voice. If I had a little bit of sassy sauce, if I was a little more Father John, Misty, and a little less Corey Feldman, then I think I would have had it.

[Chris Hoadley]

You had a little touch of Tom Morello in there.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, something, anything. Instead of standing. Standing there like. Ra. I do now I need some time to lick My wounds from Kevin upstaging me on my own show. I should have never agreed to this. Why did I even come up with the idea?

[Chris Hoadley]

What a great job.

[Brian Green]

He's really talented. I mean, he's. And he's into it. That's the thing, is that you can feel the passion. Yeah. You can paste over a lot of shit. That when people feel like you're into it, when people feel like you're being authentic, when you're really enjoying the music. I've said this about music. I've said it about podcasting. I've said it a lot about lovemaking. You can paste over a lot of shortcomings.

[Chris Hoadley]

It works with anything.

[Brian Green]

It does. I have children. And it proves that it can. It can paste over anything I. This. But this reminds me of this conversation we were having yesterday, is that I feel for guys like this who have some Monica of talent who are going to edit the commercial break for the rest of their lives because there's going to be no play. I wonder if this is in Venezuela. I bet. I bet it is. I bet that's where he's. He's doing this is down in Venezuela. Yeah. You know, Kevin. Kevin should be practicing his music is what he should be doing. He should be practicing music so that maybe someday he can find a way to piece that together, to piece the love of his music inside of whatever it is that he does. And that's not an easy thing to do when you're a musician and getting increasingly difficult. And then I look at guys like Corey Feldman who are out there on tour with Fred Durst, and I go, have you heard the new Corey Feldman?

[Chris Hoadley]

No.

[Brian Green]

You haven't heard the new Corey Feldman?

[Chris Hoadley]

I have not sought that out.

[Brian Green]

Okay, well, let me.

[Chris Hoadley]

But Corey. Corey's got a long history.

[Brian Green]

That's true. He's in the entertainment business. Yes, he. Well, I'll let you know now that Corey Feldman, because of his popularity, has over 8,000 streams on.

[Chris Hoadley]

Whoa.

[Brian Green]

Spotify.

[Chris Hoadley]

Whoa, 8,000.

[Brian Green]

All right. You want to listen to the new Corey Feldman? We'll take a comparison. Comparison. It's called Characters. He's probably going to sue me for this.

[Chris Hoadley]

They're like little tambourine.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's very Beatlesque.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, no.

[Brian Green]

Terrible.

[Chris Hoadley]

About being not authentic.

[Brian Green]

Well, that's the thing about Corey and the difference between, I think, someone like Corey and someone like Kevin. Kevin's there. He's in it. He's. He loves the song. You can tell. He's. They've arranged it completely differently. He is invested in the music. Not worried about what's going on around him. He's invested in the music and his whole body is with it. Corey Feldman is trying to emulate everybody else. He's trying to be Michael Jackson, he's trying to be the Beatles. He's trying to be some weird version of Bob Dylan.

[Chris Hoadley]

Dylan. That's what I was. I don't know why I'm picturing with like a clown face.

[Brian Green]

He's got a. He's got a whole AI video that goes along with this and it's his face morphing into different versions of himself. You're right. That's so weird that you thought that. Yeah, it's like Yellow Submarine, like that's what it reminds me of is like some advanced Yellow submarine video. But then Corey, who. I just don't know how to take. I just don't know how to take him. You know, I was talking to Sal Volcano while you were gone.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

And Sal is a like a Corey Feldman fan. Like a champion of Corey Feldman.

[Chris Hoadley]

Okay. Of his music or the movies or all of it.

[Brian Green]

I think he's a. He's a fan of the movies. The movies. And now he, like me, is caught in this weird space of not knowing whether or not he's pulling the biggest like farcical comedy stunt ever. This years long joke, essentially this Andy, this Kaufman esque prank on everybody. Or does he really believe in himself that much? Because Corey the other day put up on Instagram, after years of toil and trouble through the music industry, all the non believers, all the people who said, nay, I finally have a song being considered for a Grammy.

[Chris Hoadley]

What?

[Brian Green]

And it's as a picture. And the picture says for your consideration, this song, characters right? As best song, best editing, best, you know, lighting. I don't know, some bullshit like that. And I'm like, huh, I know what this is because we have been a victim of this too. You know those Webby Awards that everyone wants.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Brian Green]

We got an email one day.

[Chris Hoadley]

You've been nominated.

[Brian Green]

You've been nominated to be nominated for consideration.

[Chris Hoadley]

You've been nominated to be nominated.

[Brian Green]

You've been nominated to be nominated for consideration.

[Chris Hoadley]

Pay this amount of money.

[Brian Green]

A thousand fucking dollars. And I did, did pay a thousand dollars. Because I thought, yeah, all throughout my marketing career, the Webby Award was like the thing you could win. But I worked for companies or when we owned companies, we didn't think about ever doing that. I thought. And I looked at all the other podcasts who had won and I was like, yes, why shouldn't we be in the same name as Cereal and the Dax Shepard Show. Clearly, we are in the same aloof space as they are rarefied. And for your consideration, give me $1,000 and never to be heard from again until the following year when it happened again. Right. And I didn't bite the second time, but so I looked it up.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And indeed, anyone who is a member of the Recording Academy, which can be anyone who pays their annual membership and is an active musician, which is a lot. Tens of thousands of people can be considered for a Grammy. You have to just submit it.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And there are hundreds, maybe sometimes thousands of songs and albums and concerts and lighting guys and engineers that are considered because consideration is not a nomination. Though even chat TCB told me that oftentimes people will put together a slick little PR campaign that makes it seem like they have been nominated, but they've really just been considered, which is not any great accomplishment. So Corey pats himself on the back in this congratulatory post about how he, after years of being denied, he finally is being considered. Now, you had a PR firm that finally got on the ball and decided to pick up the phone and say, hey, do me a solid, will you? Whack Corey off for 10 seconds and give him one of those posters that says, for your fucking consideration.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. So he can feel special.

[Brian Green]

That's right. Meanwhile, guys like this. This. Well, probably, you know, I don't know. But it will be a long road for Kevin to get to that point, I would imagine, because he has to keep, you know, toiling and toiling away at this. So. But Kevin, really talented, brother. And listen, this isn't the only video that I've seen. I've seen other videos of him that. This is the one he had. I. When I said, can I share something? He said, share this. But there are I really like it. Videos out there. So I'll put a link to his social media if you want to give him a follow or take a listen to other stuff. Stuff he's doing. Or just follow us on the commercial break and then you can see what else he's doing. He's doing all of our videos for us on social media. Yeah. And while we're on the subject of Venezuela, tune into my conversation with Nacho Redundant. You would have enjoyed it.

[Chris Hoadley]

I can't. You would have been right there. Yes.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And the only reason why it ended. And I'll tell, like, inside Baseball, there's two reasons why it ended. The agent. This is funny. Actually, let me tell the story. When we get back, I'll tell you the story about Nacho's interview, and then you can listen to it it on Tuesday of next week. Okay? All right, we'll be back. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Chris Hoadley]

You just let fly.

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[Brian Green]

Be brief.

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[Brian Green]

And there it was, that hologram trading card. One of the rarest. The last one I needed for my set. Shiny like the designer handbag of my dreams. One of a kind. Ebay had it. And now everyone's asking, ooh, where'd you

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[Brian Green]

Okay, so while I'll tell this story about Nacho. So, first and foremost, as mentioned, Nacho is Redundo, or Nacho Red is one third of Escuela De nada, Edmond. This fabulously popular podcast, especially amongst Venezuelans. And the other two guys are named Leo and Chris. Okay, so Leo, Chris, and Nacho. When Chrissy and I first started doing the show, we of course had the help, the love, and the support of my brother in law. My brother in law is.

[Chris Hoadley]

I've been missing that song.

[Brian Green]

Gustavo. Gustavo. So Gustavo, who is long storied in this podcast, he's even shown up on an episode or two.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. Yes.

[Brian Green]

He told me. He said, you gotta listen to this show. You guys, if you could do this, if you could nail this down, this vibe, you guys will have a hit on your hands.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, we're like, no problem.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, no problem.

[Chris Hoadley]

Just do that. Start a Patreon. Copy that.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, just start a Patreon repeat, go on tour, have six video videographers and 12. This is an operation. Yeah. Out of Mexico City, where I'm sure the costs are just a little bit, you know, less than it is here, but I don't know, I'm not really sure. That doesn't take away from anything they've done.

[Chris Hoadley]

No. God.

[Brian Green]

But what you also don't understand is that. And what Nacho and I talk a little bit about is that the Venezuelans are a. They're a separated people. They're a disparate people. They're all over the world. And EDN provides them some comfort. It's like being at home. They're friends when you don't have any. They're familiarity when you don't. When you're in a new place in a strange land. Chrissy and I were taking a walk on the fucking trail yesterday.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

We were talking about edn, and a guy walked by us listening to edn. I'm not even kidding.

[Chris Hoadley]

No, he really was.

[Brian Green]

So I say this to say that Gustavo encouraged us from the beginning to get in contact with these guys. Like, hey, you guys could do a cross promo. You got the Venezuelan angle. So I rode these guys a couple different times. Once in Spanish, once in English. But of course, I never got any response. I didn't expect. They have thousands and thousands of communications, probably. I never expected any of that. I didn't really expect them to respond. So when our booking agency said Nacho would like to come in, we. I was like, for sure. When can it happen? Well, in the next couple of days, actually. I was like, okay, we'll figure it out. Like, let's do it. So we get on, the agent sends, as a lot of agents do a prep. Here's what Nacho's doing. Here's what he's done. Here's who he is. You know, just in case you don't know. Here's some stuff you can listen to. Here's some stuff you can watch. And she says, and no uncertain terms and replies and replies and replies to our agent and to Astrid and to the, you know, people who booked the show and helped the show. He must be done at the top of the hour. You have one hour. He must be done after one hour. And I always respect a guest's timeline. It's one of the first things I say. I. We always say, hey, we got you down for a half an hour, 45 minutes or an hour, or whatever. Yes. Is that still work? Okay, great. What time do you have to go? You know, just to make sure that we're keeping an eye on the clock. So I'm in the conversation, and when. When he comes on, we talk for a little bit, and then I say, hey, you know, you got to be done by the top of the hour, right? You Got to be out by this time. And he says, yeah, you know, don't worry about. I'm a little flexible. Don't worry about it. Right. You know, hour sounds good. We'll figure it out. Okay. So I immediately get the sense that the agent is giving him an out, just as we do sometimes. Right. When we may not be. It's okay. We may not be familiar. You start when you walk in the studio, and all of a sudden you start coughing. It's crazy. Yeah, it is. It's kind of crazy, but it happens. I mean, I'm not bothered by it. As we do sometimes give ourselves a fail safe. And that fail safe is the time.

[Chris Hoadley]

And if things aren't going well.

[Brian Green]

Correct. We can bail and we don't seem rude. Right. We can bail and we don't seem rude. It's just the time that we had allotted. It happens very. It's very little that we ever feel like it's time to go. But there have been a few times where the clock has literally saved us. Yes. We have been struggling to the finish line.

[Chris Hoadley]

I've been looking at the clock.

[Brian Green]

Yes, keep looking at the clock. So here comes the top of the hour, and I do what I do. I start wrapping up. Well, Nacho Red is currently doing this and blah, blah, blah, and links in the show, notes and blah, blah, blah. And he goes, hey, man. Hey, man. I can keep going. Like, you know, I don't have to go. I can keep going. Yeah, I'm enjoying the conversation. Like, if you want to go, let's go. And I'm like, I. I don't have anywhere to be. Let's go. So. So then we did another 40 minutes. So an hour and 40 minutes total. That. That he and I were talking. Great conversation. We went a lot of different places. I think this is. I think even people who have no idea who Nacho Red are are going to enjoy this conversation with Nacho, you.

[Chris Hoadley]

And by the way, everybody was super excited in this house.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God. People were, like, flying through the hallway. It was as if the king had showed. I don't know what king of what country, but the king of some country. It really was like mother to re. I don't. I can't explain how reverential the Venezuelans are, not just in this house, but around the world. To EDN in a lot. They've been around. They've been on for nine years. They've been a podcast almost twice as long as we have. They have a thousand episodes. We have the same. How have they Been around twice as long as we have, and we have just as many episodes as they do. We're doing this wrong. Yeah, we're on the wheel. That's right. And they get paid extra for some of their episodes. Jesus Jones.

[Chris Hoadley]

Well, another four years, Brian.

[Brian Green]

Another four years, and we're going to be making that EDN money. Netflix is a joke. It's right around the corner. Netflix won't even exist by the time we're ready for Netflix as a joke. So top. So, okay, so top of the hour comes and goes, and Nacho and I are just chitting and chatting. However, my bladder is starting to fill up because I often drink coffee before the show, and. And the coffee just runs right through me. It's like beer. Like, once the seal's broken.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, you got to keep going.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. So I'm kind of starting to fiddle in my chair a little bit, you know, But I want to keep going. Like, now. It's an endurance contest. Like, okay, we're here. Let's just keep on doing it. And then my phone starts ringing. And it starts ringing. There's only one person who can ring the phone while I'm recording, and that's Astrid. That's the only person. But I am assuming that Astrid is calling so excited to hear how the interview went. And she's calling me to get this, to get the skinny, to get the lowdown, since everybody was, you know, I am nobody. When Nacho Red comes in, I just let you know that right now, I am nobody. Nacho Red gives me instant credibility with all my Venezuelan family members and friends. Friends. So Astrid's calling, and then she calls again, and then she calls again. And now we're like, 30. We're like, 25, 30 minutes past. She calls three times. I can see text messages coming through, but I can't read them. And I'm like, ah, stop it. Bother me. You know, I'm doing it. I'm going.

[Chris Hoadley]

I got so much to tell you.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, so much to tell you, but you got to let me finish. And then all of a sudden, Nacho's wife pops in. Nacho's wife is an extraordinarily famous Mexican actress. She's, like, really famous.

[Chris Hoadley]

That's so cool.

[Brian Green]

And she pops in because I can see him turn his head, and he goes, hey. Hey, honey, come here. I want you to meet Brian. Like, come here, come here.

[Chris Hoadley]

I love it when the interviewees have people.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

That are coming in.

[Brian Green]

Me too. It happened with.

[Chris Hoadley]

It's a few different people.

[Brian Green]

Who.

[Chris Hoadley]

Who was it? Hannah? Hannah and. And Des.

[Brian Green]

I think it happened with Hannah and Des.

[Chris Hoadley]

Then we met somebody else's aunt.

[Brian Green]

We met somebody's aunt. That was the fire. The. The woman who's married to the firefighter. Oh, my God. She's one of my favorite now. I can't think of her. She just said hi to us on the commercial break. She just commented on one of our reels. It's happened a couple different times where the loved ones or somebody else pops in.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, and God, Reggie, Reggie, Reggie.

[Brian Green]

That's happened. Yes, that has happened also. So I love that. It means that they have a level of comfort. It's nice, and they want. They're excited to share what they're doing, whatever. And so, you know, he introduces, and I can't hear her because she's not on the microphone, but I can. I can tell her. She know. She's being polite to me, and she can't hear me, but I can tell she's like, yeah, time to go. Yeah. So I get off. So, okay. All right. So I get off the phone.

[Chris Hoadley]

I love this.

[Brian Green]

So we get off. So he says, okay, man. And I said, okay, man. All right, we gotta go. We gotta up. All right. So then I check the text messages. You have to get off the phone. Are you still on with Nacho? You have to get off. He's late. He's got to go. He's got to go somewhere else. And where he had to go was to record EDN and, like, you know, they have an actual place where they go, and, you know, there's people waiting for them and stuff like that. The limo's outside. I don't know. Something's going on. And I'm like, oh, you know, I didn't know. And so there's this. All this hubble of this big thing. Okay, okay, so. But here's the best part of the story. So anyway, so then I call Astor, and I'm like, this is what happened. So, okay, everyone's calmed down now. It was just, you know, we're just having fun, and we went too long. And Nacho's. Nacho. He can control his own time.

[Chris Hoadley]

I was gonna say, yeah, he's the star of the interview.

[Brian Green]

Okay. So during the. At the beginning of the phone call, I say to Nacho, the reason. One of the reasons why you're here is because Gustavo is a huge fan of you years. And if you have one second after we get done, can you record him a little? Hey, Gustavo.

[Chris Hoadley]

I mean, what a great brother in law.

[Brian Green]

Thank you.

[Chris Hoadley]

What a great Brother in law.

[Brian Green]

I was thinking of them the whole time. And so I'm like. Because. Honestly, because Nacho reminded me of Gustavo. The two of them, they have similar mannerisms. They certainly have similar senses of humor. And now I know why. Because Gustavo has spent about half his life listening to edn. Yeah. So I say at the beginning, I say, if you can do me one favor. Favor, and just, like, say hello to him on the microphone and congratulate him on his engagement and his. And his. His graduation from. From grad school, like, I certainly would appreciate it. And so we. We're getting off the phone, and we had exchanged phone numbers. And he says, after, he's going, I'll send something to you in a little while, right? And I said, okay, great. Don't worry about it. But whatever.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

That's your leisure. Yeah. About two hours later, I get a video from Nacho. And the video is not just Nacho. It's Leo and Chris. So it's the entirety of edm, Right. And they are all doing salutations, greetings, and busting Gustavo's balls. It's a great video about this whole thing. It's a great video to the degree where Gustavo didn't know if it was real or not. He thought it was some kind of AI program that I had. And I was like, no, brother, that's real. And he's like, I still having a hard time believing that they're talking about me. And I'm like, yes, they are. This was, like, the best. And I'm. I'm gonna leave the joke to be private between they. They made it a joke, and it was really funny. And I'm gonna leave that between Gustavo and edn. Like, but it. These guys were so great. This. These guys were so great and gracious because, you know that it's not just Nacho that had to take the time. Nacho had to explain to the other guys in the room why we're talking to some stranger named Gustavo about his graduation and his engagement.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, that's so nice. Wow.

[Brian Green]

When. I'm sure. And I don't know this for a fact, but I'm sure they could probably charge, you know, $50 for a meet

[Chris Hoadley]

and greet afterwards or on cameo.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And cameo. For something like that man. To be in the. The lofty. The lofty, like, headspace of Ed. I just have a lot. I have mad respect for these guys. They have done something that very few podcasts have done, and that has nothing to do with numbers. We've had numbers. We've had almost 100 million downloads. I mean, there's. We have nothing to complain about. They have done something as far as community is concerned, and we have the best listeners in the world. And the. The one. Those of you who talk to us, I. I can't tell you how much we love you. And letters that we get. Yes. And the people who, you know, buy the merch and listen every time. And. And the. All of that said, the immense amount of human beings that are just in love with this show, EDN is phenomenal. It's a phenomenal success. But I have often said, and I think I need to remember this, we are lucky bastards to be doing what we do and make any money whatsoever, let alone be able to kind of support ourselves. Right?

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. We just said that on our best friend walk yesterday.

[Brian Green]

That's right. On our Best Friend Rock. This is a pretty fucking good. We have it pretty fucking good.

[Chris Hoadley]

When I tell people what I do, it's like, yeah, I get to laugh with my best friend every week on a podcast and make a tiny bit of money doing it.

[Brian Green]

It's amazing. It's amazing. And then many people that are sitting in our seats, many podcasters out there would die to have five people fill a room and listen to what they have to say. I know some of them personally. I know podcasters who have been doing this just as long as we have have. That have nowhere near the number of people listening that we do. And they still do it week after week because there's those two or three or five, 10 people that listen to them. So, you know, if we could probably fill an arena with people that listen to this show on a monthly basis. So I would say that it's, you know, it's.

[Chris Hoadley]

It's a lucky thing not buy tickets to the arena.

[Brian Green]

You wouldn't buy the tickets if you happen to be in the arena at the time that we were recording, then. That's what I meant. That's right. Buy the tickets.

[Chris Hoadley]

Somebody was playing at that beach. What was the beach? The beach we were gonna play at in Florida.

[Brian Green]

Oh.

[Chris Hoadley]

What? What?

[Brian Green]

Oh, I can't remember. I was gonna say Temecula, but it's not Temecula. Oh. We never said it. Right. What was it? It was the beach. Beach.

[Chris Hoadley]

Deluca Beach.

[Brian Green]

Miami. It was north of Miami. Yeah. But anyways, someone was playing there.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. I think it might have been like it was another person I was listening to, and they couldn't say it right either.

[Brian Green]

Okay, good. Well, then it's not just us. Yeah. Everyone says it wrong. Because it's just Miami. But then they demanded that we don't say Miami. But then Sam Morrill came in and we were like, ah, yeah, you know, it wasn't the best selling tickets in the world for us. And Sam was like, I sell that place out. 50 98. I was like, oh, you. You, Sam. I saw Sam doing, like, some commercial for, like, men's clothing. Like Stitch fix or something like that. A whole thing.

[Chris Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

Was it? No, no, I know. Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Jeremy.

[Brian Green]

Jeremy Piven. No, no, no, no. I'm thinking of a comedian.

[Chris Hoadley]

That was a clothing thing too, wasn't it?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. But it's not the same guy. It's not. Excuse me. It was not Sam that was doing it. I'll think of the name of the comedian. It's one of the guys that he travels with. He's a guy he does the podcast with. Okay, so Jeremy Piven. Jeremy Piven. Have we told this story?

[Chris Hoadley]

We have not told the story.

[Brian Green]

Okay, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a bite, and then you're gonna have to tune in tomorrow for the next part of this. Jeremy Piven is the only guest we have literally refused to interview with, to do an interview with, even when he was right here on the studio.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, we had to make an emergency call.

[Brian Green]

We had to make an emergency call. And we did. We bailed. We got the fuck out. Yeah, let's reconnect. Yeah, let's reconnect. Have your agent call my agent. Can't hear you. Can hear you perfectly fine, but I still can't hear you. You look great, but kind of fuzzy. It's recording just fine, but something's wrong. Not sure what it is, but I guess all the rumors are true. Jerk off. I'll tell this story probably at my own expense. Probably Bella will kill me. But, you know, it's my story, Bella. I get to tell it. Okay. All right.

[Chris Hoadley]

That's true. It happened to us.

[Brian Green]

It did.

[Chris Hoadley]

You and I looked at each other and we were like, we're out. We're out.

[Brian Green]

See you later. Not gonna do this. Not gonna do this. I am gonna tell this story. Who fucking cares?

[Chris Hoadley]

It's a pretty funny story. Gosh, you could show the video, too. That was the part that we.

[Brian Green]

I do have the video. Yeah. Well, we're always looking for pr. I bet that would cause. But will it.

[Chris Hoadley]

But PR and content.

[Brian Green]

PR and content. But I think, oh, that would be a story that some people would hang. But is Jeremy Piven is a douchebag. Is that really a story? Yeah. That's not breaking news. I, I think he is the character that he plays. I think that's just it.

[Chris Hoadley]

That was our experience.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Go watch his new men's line commercial and you'll see, see that he is that person. That is who he is. And I'll tell the entire story. We'll go all through it tomorrow. Stay tuned. Hold on to your seats, kids. We'll get through it together. Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

I think enough time has passed now that we could, we could talk about.

[Brian Green]

It's been like six months since it happened. Yeah. And I thought, I. I thought we were maybe not doing Jeremy a favorite, but we were lending him some grace by saying yes in the first place. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Like, I didn't see Theo Vaughn bending over backwards to have Jeremy pivotal. So. Not that Theo and the commercial break are anything like each other. Theo has 24 million social media followers. We have 24 social media followers. But you get the point. I didn't see Jeremy like running all to every comedy podcast in town, as a lot of people do sometimes when they're going on the circuit. I didn't see him doing that. So. But you know. Yeah. All right. We'll tell the story tomorrow. 212-4333 TCB 212 433-3822. Questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas. We take them all. Get involved in the conversation. We would love to hear from from you. It would be our honor. Be our pleasure, Be our joy. It would make our day. That's what I'm trying to say to you. Also, you can get your free [e-mail] go to the contact us button. Drop down menu says I want my free sticker. Give us your address, we'll send you one. At the commercial break on Instagram, TCB podcast on tick tock and YouTube.com the commercial break for all the episodes on video videos. Same day. They air here on the audio. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for now.

[Chris Hoadley]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

I love you.

[Chris Hoadley]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, we will say, we do say. And we must say goodbye, Sam.