Teresa Is Arousing Spirits!

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Episode: Teresa Is Arousing Spirits!
Date: July 24, 2025
Hosts: Bryan Green & Krissy Hoadley
Guest Subject: Teresa Caputo (Long Island Medium)

Episode Overview

This episode mixes TCB’s signature brand of improv comedy and irreverent banter with a skeptical deep-dive into the televised “psychic readings” of Teresa Caputo, particularly a scene where Caputo’s brain is scanned for scientific proof of her “abilities.” Bryan and Krissy commentate live as they watch, peppering in their unique comedic takes, industry insights, personal anecdotes, and skepticism toward psychic phenomena. The show also touches on 80s rock nostalgia, true crime television, upcoming podcast merch, and special TCB events.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Topical Rundown & TCB Merch Announcements

• Tomorrowland Festival Fire (02:00-03:20):

  • Bryan recounts the recent stage fire at Tomorrowland festival in Belgium, poking fun at how “they put together this huge intricate stage, but all weekend it’s just a DJ and two CD players.”
  • “It’s kind of a little silly to put a stage together that big then you’re gonna have a small little dude up in the middle of it spinning tunes.” (03:12, Bryan)

• Pete Davidson’s Big News (03:48-04:51):

  • The hosts react to Pete Davidson’s announcement that he's expecting his first child with model Elise Hewitt, joking about Pete's notorious dating life.
  • “He has made the rounds.” (04:51, Chrissy)
  • “Now, thank God you are settling down, Pete. For the love of all that is holy, let us all settle down just a little bit.” (04:52, Bryan)

• Merch Drop News (05:04-08:12):

  • TCB’s first-ever merch drop is coming up: limited-time apparel and stickers, with a focus on supporting future drops rather than profit.
  • “It’s likely going to make us no money either. But what it does do is give us the ability to do future merch drops.” (06:56, Bryan)
  • Excitement about “The 12 Days of TCB” December event.

• Upcoming “TCB Minus” Live Stream (08:41-11:23):

  • Plans to riff on a “terrible” movie, possibly a Kenneth Copeland-directed faith film, Mystery Science Theater 3000–style.
  • The technical struggle of finding an operational DVD player is part of the joke.

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2. Nostalgia Tangent: 80s Hair Bands, Rock Docs, and Daisy Fuentes (12:04-21:09)

• Discussion includes: The “Cherry Pie” video star’s autobiography, “The Decline of Western Civilization” documentaries, and wild hair band stories from the LA scene.
• On 80s Music Delusion:
  • “These kids are delusional. I mean, delusional and high. … That was such a wild time.” (14:26, Bryan)
• Shift to Grunge:
  • “What happened was Guns N’ Roses, Appetite for Destruction. That is what happened... I didn’t want to listen to anything else.” (18:12, Bryan)

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3. Teresa Caputo Brain Scan Breakdown

Main Segment: 24:05–53:33

3.1. Apology and Setup (24:05-25:34)

• Bryan apologizes for using the wrong Teresa Caputo video on a previous episode.
• “I'd like to say I'm sorry I didn't have it available back then… now we're making it available.” (24:04, Bryan)

3.2. The Brain Scan Commentary (25:37–32:01)

• Skeptical Play-By-Play:

  • The hosts watch Caputo enter Dr. Daniel Amen’s clinic, where her brain will be scanned (EEG/QEEG) during a reading.
  • Immediate jokes about how “having a different brain” means nothing.
  • “Doesn’t mean anything. Yeah, people who are autistic or neurodivergent, their brains work different too!” (26:00, Bryan)
  • Caputo’s claim: “The things I say and do are prompted by spirit… I think it’s hard for people to understand.” (24:44, Caputo)

• The Reading Begins: Caputo “connects” with the spirit of a lost loved one (“Vargo”), getting emotional validation for the subject.

• Notable Skeptical Reactions:

  • Highly edited show raises questions about authenticity.
  • Bryan on Caputo’s tactics:
    “She is literally making shit up as she goes along.” (34:48) “That is what Teresa Caputo is... a woman who fabricates things in an effort to manipulate other people’s feelings.” (35:37, Bryan)

3.3. Classic Teresa Tactics & Host Critique (32:01-39:06)

• Hosts mock the inconsistency in Caputo’s own rules about “spirit communication,” calling her approach an “old parlor trick.”
• Chrissy:
  “I would prefer it just be a random person,” (32:20)
• Discuss how cold readings can be damaging by instilling false hope or dependency.

3.4. Emotional Payoff and Science or Not? (46:18-52:06)

• The show’s heavy editing, assistance from producers, and no clear scientific basis are critiqued.
• “Don’t you think Teresa would be the most scientifically studied human being in history if any of this was even a little bit true?” (40:35, Bryan)
• Dr. Amen’s findings: Caputo’s prefrontal cortex is overactive when giving readings—an effect also found in lying, making up stories, and critical thinking.
• “If you scan my brain, it'd be working differently. There'd probably be, like, a big couple patches in the middle… Ayahuasca dripping out of my prefrontal cortex.” (26:07, Bryan)

3.5. Concluding Thoughts on Caputo and the Reading (52:06-53:33)

• Bryan acknowledges that if the grief relief is real, it’s still positive for the subject, but remains deeply skeptical.
• “If that girl's story… was real, at least she walks away alleviated from pain. There you go.” (52:36, Bryan & Chrissy)
• Compare Caputo’s act to obviously fabricated shows like “Mountain Monsters,” but claim Caputo has to “put this on all day and all night.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On DJ culture:
  “It’s very intricate, extraordinarily large…for a picnic table and two fucking CD players.” (02:37, Bryan)
• On hair bands:
  “They really only had two or three years of super fame and then things were falling off…” (15:31, Bryan)
• On Teresa Caputo’s “cold reading”:
  “That’s what happens when you have a helmet for hair.” (29:49, Bryan)
• Mocking psychic validation:
  “He’s playing with my labia. He is frisky. He’s romantic. One in the pink, two in the stink—look out!” (38:11, Bryan)
• Skeptic’s refrain:
  “It’s an old parlor trick, is what it is.” (46:18, Bryan)
• On the value of belief vs. skepticism:
  “If that’s what you believe, that’s what you believe… Hey, listen. You know. I have some land in Florida I’d like to sell you—and some merch.” (51:56, Bryan)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:00–03:20: Tomorrowland fire coverage, DJ stage jokes.
• 05:04–08:12: Merch drop and “12 Days of TCB” preview.
• 08:41–11:23: “TCB Minus” livestream movie night announcement.
• 12:04–21:09: Hair bands, rock docs, and MTV nostalgia detour.
• 24:05–25:34: Apology and setup for Caputo brain scan video.
• 25:37–32:01: TCB riff on Caputo’s brain scan and the start of her “reading.”
• 34:34–35:37: Hosts’ critical view of Caputo’s “manipulation.”
• 40:35–41:49: Bryan’s challenge: if this were scientific, wouldn’t Caputo be more widely studied?
• 46:18–52:06: Dr. Amen’s finding, tying overactivity to general creativity, lying, or critical thinking—not the supernatural.
• 52:06–53:33: Wrapping up Caputo segment: is comfort provided, even if the process isn’t “real”?

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Tone & Language

Casual, irreverent, self-aware, skeptical, and driven by the hosts’ long friendship and comedic riffing—the hosts frequently break the fourth wall and acknowledge the constructed, entertainment-focused nature of both their own show and the subjects they critique. They move effortlessly from sharp skepticism to absurd, NSFW humor but draw lines at not ridiculing real grief.

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For New Listeners

This episode is an exemplar of The Commercial Break’s blend of pop culture commentary, improv riffing, and genuine friendship dynamic. Whether or not you’re invested in Teresa Caputo or cable TV psychics, the comedy stands on its own, and the hosts champion a skeptical, but not heartless, approach toward true crime and supernatural media. The episode is especially relevant for fans of skeptical media, classic rock nostalgia, and meta-comedy podcasts.

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Transcript

[Brian Green]

You wish you had triceps like these, don't you, Michael?

[Michael]

I got puppy arms, bro.

[Brian Green]

Look at the forearms. Blow, blow.

[Michael]

You know these stupid blood thinners makes.

[Brian Green]

My blood too fucking thin. I don't like that.

[Michael]

I don't think your blood should be this thin, right?

[Brian Green]

Don't you want your blood thicker?

[Michael]

I don't even know.

[Brian Green]

Blow, blow, blow, blow, blow. On this episode of the commercial break, he always was.

[Teresa Caputo]

From the first time that I met him, he was my everything. Eric's full name was Eric Vargo and everybody called him Vargo. We dated on and off since I was 19. He was loving just a goofball. And I miss him every day.

[Brian Green]

That's really sad.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

He was a bit of a romantic.

[Teresa Caputo]

Yeah, he was the ladies man.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

He just started nibbling on my ear.

[Brian Green]

I'm like, oh my God, he's nibbling on your ear. He's nibbling on your ear, Teresa. You fucking. Honestly. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Yeah boy. Oh yeah. Cows and kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Chris and Joy Hoadley. Best of you, Chrissy.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Best of you, Brian.

[Brian Green]

Best you out there in the podcast universe. So, slew of news to talk about as well as a video to get to and an apology by Brian. So that's all coming up in the next hour of the commercial. I am just reading that the Tomorrowland festival organizers are probably wishing they were living in yesterday country right now because at least they still had a stage. The multi day fest in Belgium was set to kick off in just a few short days which would have been the last weekend as this year. As you're listening to this, this would have been last weekend. A fire broke out Wednesday and took the entire stage with it, burning it down to scaffolding from one end to the other. Tons of videos are circulating online right now, capturing massive plumes of black smoke billowing into the sky and flames quickly burning across the intricate stage. We've all seen that Tomorrowland stage, that huge complicate. Have you ever seen that?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, I think so.

[Brian Green]

Okay, here, let me see if I can pull up one of the videos for you so you can look at it maybe. Geez, yeah. Wow.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

This is one way on fire.

[Brian Green]

This is one of the bigger stages in here.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Oh yeah, it's huge.

[Brian Green]

One of the bigger stages and all of stage productions is the Tomorrowland Festival. If you haven't seen it, you should go take a look at past tomorrowland festivals. It's very intricate, it's extraordinarily large. Especially given the fact that what they're going to do is put a picnic table with two fucking CD players on it and play music all weekend long. I mean, honestly, I got nothing against DJs. I think a lot of them are very good. And I like some of the music. I like the gay Raj, if you will, Chrissy. Gay Raj was my thing, but I mean, it's kind of a little silly to put a stage together that big and then you're going to have a small little dude up in the middle.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Of it spinning tunes.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. But there's always fire and a lot of visuals. You know, you're. You know there's.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

You're tripping out.

[Brian Green]

You're tripping out, dude. You're tripping out, man. Fucked up, dude. So. So it doesn't look like there will be a Tomorrowland, at least not with a stage, which is unfortunate for the probably 150,000 people that show up every year. That is one of the more. That is one of the larger festivals out there, Tomorrowland. So here's hoping insurance pays all the premiums. Okay. Also, Pete Davidson is going to be a dad. We were just wondering the other day where.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Where Pete had gone ruminating on his whereabouts.

[Brian Green]

Pete's pragers. And I love it. He's married to a. Or he's seeing another incredibly beautiful woman named Elise Hewitt. Pete's gearing up for his biggest role yet as he announced.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Congratulations to Pete.

[Brian Green]

Yes. As reported, Pete and Elise were first linked back together in March. They took their relationship to the next step quickly, obviously.

[Teresa Caputo]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And now they are expecting their first baby. Oh, gosh.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

After like four months.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Oh, she's a. She's a model.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Of course she is.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. She's not bad looking. No, you wouldn't kick her out of bed. I mean, maybe you'd kick her out of bed. You know, I used to have a friend, Paul, that guy used to say, you're scared of pussy. He used to say, show me a hot girl and I'll show you a guy who's sick of fucking her.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And I was like, oh, I don't believe that, Paul. But now I believe it. Now I believe it. I'm. Pete's been through a few of them. Pete's been through all of them, actually. Congratulations to you, Pete.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He has made the rounds.

[Brian Green]

Yes. But now, thank God you are settling down, Pete. For the. For the love of all that is holy, let us all settle down. Just a Little bit. All right, so that's, that's, that, that's like timely, topical news that's only a week old at this point. So there you go.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That's the newest. You're going to get.

[Brian Green]

The newest, latest and greatest from us. The best you're going to get. We're on vacation, so fuck you. Even we need a vacation. Here's a commercial break news. Let's break it down for you. In case you haven't been in tune with the last couple of weeks and like little bits and bops that we've been dropping, we're not very good at this. So I'm going to try and put it all in one shot in the next month and we'll give you an exact date here. Very shortly in the next month, we are going to be doing our very first merch drop. We've worked long and hard on this. And by long and hard, I mean someone else worked long and hard on this. And Astrid and showed us the. And showed us the proofs. That's right. And now we have some coming so we can put it on, check it out. But it's good quality.

[Rachel]

It is.

[Brian Green]

It's very stuff. Yeah, it's really good. Like, we've been through a lot of iterations of a merch drop, thinking we're going to do it, trying to do it, working with different companies and different designers. This is the best of the breed, no doubt about it. The quality is great, the designs are fantastic and we are going to do our very first merch drop limited. So it's like a two week window. You can either buy it then or you don't buy it. You buy it or you don't buy it and then we will never have that particular merch again.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

It's going to be five, that limited edition.

[Brian Green]

I agree. Five or six items. It is likely we will do an exclusive sticker that goes along with that item. So you buy the item, you get the sticker only if you do it. And that sticker will only be available to this merch drop also. So you either buy it or you don't. Either get it or you don't. That's not to say, I'm not trying to like pokey in the eye and say, nani, Nani boo boo. You have to buy it. I am telling you, Nani nonny boo boo. You have to buy it.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Nani, Nani boo boo. I haven't heard that in a while. I like that.

[Brian Green]

But we would love it if you would buy the merch. I'd love to say this goes to some good cause. We're helping somebody out. It's feeding some children somewhere. But it's not. It's likely going to make us no money either. But what it does do is it gives us the ability to do future merch drops. Because that's how, that's how everything works these days. It's all transactional. You do a test run. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, it's going to be a long time before anybody's going to ask you to do it again. So it's going to be limited merch. It's going to be for a limited time and we would love it. If you're so inclined to buy some commercial break.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I'm going to be wearing it for.

[Brian Green]

I'm definitely buying some. I'm. There's going to be some Christmas presents. There's going to be a lot of Christmas presents for people who don't even like the commercial break. Yeah, people have never heard it. They're going to get commercial break stuff. I'm going to get my dad a piggy.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Fronting a good T shirt's a good T shirt. A good hat is a good hat, no matter what.

[Brian Green]

Some hoodies, some sweaters, T shirts, long sleeve and short hats. And then if that all goes well, the big plan is that the 12 days of TCB will include a new piece of merch every day that you can buy during that 14 day window. That is really exciting to me because that we're already getting pretty creative.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

14 day window.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's going to be. Well, yes, because by the time it's all said and done, I've actually counted the amount of days. This time it'll be 14 episodes in a row. So even though we call it the 12 days of TCB, it was 23 days last month. 23 days in a row of commercial break episodes. Yeah, last year. This year it'll be 14 days in a row of commercial break episodes. So there'll be a two week window. You can buy that stuff. So stay tuned. Secondly, but not any less important to you, the listener, Chrissy and I have thought long and hard about our new our next stunt. The last one being TCB's endless day. We will not be repeating that this year. At least not. Yes, we will. It'll be called the 12 days of TCB.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, we'll just be in days, not in hours.

[Brian Green]

Days, not in hours. We love when we break down videos around here. It's a lot of fun for us and we thought, why not take that to the next level and do a long video, a movie. Okay, what movie are we going to do? Well, there's lots of people that do this out there on the Internet. There's how, you know, how was this made? Mystery Science Theater 3000, which they haven't had a new season in a while. But you get it. There's a lot of people who do this. We want to do something original. So we have picked probably the least known worst actor, actress, director, producer, writer combination you could find. We've probably found the worst movie ever made. And we are going to watch it beginning to end. And I'm only going to give you one hint about this because I haven't decided on which one of these movies we're going to do yet. But Kenny Copeland is the writer direct. Kenny Copeland, the preacher, the pastor, the televangelist that we have made fun of for so long here. He has made a series of movies. He made one 20 years ago. He made a couple in the last 10 years.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He reviewed the one with Eric Roberts. Right.

[Brian Green]

We talked about a clip. We reviewed a clip of it and that's on the table. I think that might. That might end up being the one that we do. Let's see how it all goes. But you can't stream that one. You have to buy it on used dvd. I have to go find it on used dvd, which I did, by the way. And so I'm going to get it. We'll see if it still works. And that might be the one. Maybe if I can manage to make it all. Where the do you get a dvd? I mean, who's gonna. Somebody's gonna loan us a DVD player.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I'm a DVD player.

[Brian Green]

Oh, you do? Okay. Does it have a good remote?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

It does.

[Brian Green]

You can press stop and start pretty quickly.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I mean, I haven't used it in a while.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, we might have to use yours. Let's make sure it works.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

Okay, sounds good. So TCB minus the long ballyhoo dream of Chrissy and I to have a streaming service is gonna come to life on a day in August, a very special day, when we are going to stream Chrissy and I talking about the movie. While the movie is playing, we're going to stream it on Twitch and YouTube if we can make that work. And we're going to break it down and we hope that you join us. We're really excited about this. If it works out, maybe we'll do this again. So TCB minus and the merch Drop both coming in August. Stay tuned. I just wanted to let you know.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

What about Bop or what was the other service that we were going to use? Twitching and bopping or what?

[Brian Green]

Oh yeah, yeah. Kick. K I kick. Yes, we might do kick too. We'll see. Let's see how it all works out. Bop, Bop. We're using bop. That's tcb. Bop bop. TC bop bop. Oh, tc Bop bop bop bop. She's my cherry pie Sweet little lady.

[Teresa Caputo]

With a sweet surprise.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I read her audiobiography.

[Brian Green]

Tawny Kitane.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

No, that's not Tawny Kitane. That's in Cherry Pie, the Cherry Pie video. Wait, it's Bobby Brown, I think is her name. I read her biography.

[Brian Green]

The girl from the Cherry Pie video had an entire autobiography.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Uh huh. It's pretty fascinating. She dated it or was with a lot of rockers from that area.

[Brian Green]

Well, give me the Cliff Notes.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Oh, I read it like six years ago.

[Brian Green]

One thing you can remember that was kind of outrageous.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

She. Well, she dated. She was dating Tommy Lee.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

And then huge cock. And then he met Pamela Anderson and ditched her. Yeah, that's how it kind of starts off. I remember that she did like Dave Navarro. She had a drug problem.

[Brian Green]

But as most of the people who were rock and rollers in the 80s. Yeah, yeah.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

So I'll go back. It's on my Kindle. I'll go back and take a look.

[Brian Green]

There's a series of movies called like how to Ruin Civilization or something like that. I forget.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yes. No.

[Brian Green]

Do you know what I'm talking about?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

About the punk.

[Brian Green]

The. Well, it was first about the punk and then they do this part two about the 80s hair bands.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

And I think there might even be a Part two, the Decline of Western Civil Civilization. And so there's a service that you can subscribe to and maybe I'll put a link to it if I can. Let me, let me see. I'll. If there's a check in the show notes. If you want to check this out, I'll. I'll put the link up there. You can get an app, connect your library card to it and then you have access to tens of thousands of movies streaming.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And you rent it and it gives you like 48 hours to watch it and then you can't watch it again for a month and it's free. It's just because libraries all across the country have signed library cards.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Right?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. So I watched the Decline of Civilization one and Part two. Part two is more fascinating. The part one though, Part one is really good. Why is it fascinating? It's fascinating because it focuses on the 80s hair band scene in like 1985 in California. It's wild. All over the. Yeah. In LA, but they go all over the. They talk to a lot of different bands. You do not know how many teenagers of that era were convinced, thoroughly convinced, that they were the next hair band. I mean, I'm sure this is not any different in any other age. I thought I was going to be the next veteran.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Right, right.

[Brian Green]

You know, and if you would have asked me back then, I would have had blind faith that that would have happened. I mean, if you really would have gotten inside of my head, blind faith, that would happen. But these kids are delusional. I mean, delusional and high. Right.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I've seen parts of it.

[Brian Green]

Some of the stories that are told are just fucking wild. That was such a wild time.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I know. And there's like that one guy that died of alcoholism. Yeah, there's a few of them, maybe.

[Brian Green]

Well, the. Who's the guy? Pool.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

There's like a pool scene.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

With a bottle of booze and just.

[Brian Green]

Just nuts. I mean, Nikki Sixx was pumping the.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I read his biography, too.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And who's the guy from Poison? Who's the dude from Poison? Ricky. Not Ricky.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Oh.

[Brian Green]

Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, the short guy with the spiky hair. Yeah, he was. I read a story one time about that. Somebody. Or no, maybe it was a video. Yeah, it was a video that somebody put together. It was a kid who lived with him for a period of time right after Poison was like. They saw their heyday and then they were kind of splitting up and going their separate ways because they were creatively having differences. And he was explaining that that guy who is. I want to make. We should say his name.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah. Brett Michaels was kind of going his own way, right?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Poison band members Ricky Rocket. No, no, Cece Deville. Ricky Rocket was another one. But Cece Deville. Cece Deville is the guitar player. Him and Bret Michaels, you know, they were really the kind of brothers in arms. But then they started to go their separate ways. Things were kind of taking a turn for the scene altogether. They really only had two or three years of, like, super fame, and then things were falling off, so everyone was telling them, go take a break, do your own thing. And he was trying to get his own band together. So he hired this kid, the kid, 18 years old.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Told him that he, like, the kid lived in Iowa and he had seen him Play one day at a show at a local place. And he said, come on, I'm starting a band and I, you know, you're great on guitar and I love your vibe. And he essentially went to Cece's house and lived there for like six months while Cece did nothing but get fucked up on cocaine, grab burritos from the place down the street and become increasingly paranoid and weird.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yikes, right?

[Brian Green]

And like, the way that this kid told this story, you really. It painted a picture. It painted a picture of like, just a. Like things just falling apart, debauchery. People were like, coming to CC's house and taking the paintings off the wall, like, stealing it right under his nose. Taking his cars, you know, never return. He's just so up he couldn't even see straight. Right. And that was the go go 80s for you, Chrissy. And the go go 90s and the go go 2000s for Brian. And if you've been there, then you can kind of under.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Like there's a show on. I just watched it a little while back. It might be on Paramount. About like the 80s bands of that time.

[Brian Green]

Oh, really?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

It was like a three part or something. I'll look at it. Listen to you. It was very fascinating and it shows. Yeah. At the very end.

[Rachel]

How.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah. Literally everybody thought they were. And then things changed. Then grunge happened and.

[Brian Green]

Well, no, what happened. What happened was Guns N Roses, Appetite for Destruction. That is what happened. That is the moment in my mind as a kid who was like, just becoming really musically aware at the time. Super tuned into MTV and the local radio and all that other stuff and had been for a long time. What happened to me was I. Instantaneous. I'd never really loved hair rock, but I would listen to the Poison songs and Motley Crue.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Right.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. You know, Aerosmith wasn't a hair band, but they kind of.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

They went that way for me. Yeah. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And they had some great albums and some of that music still holds up today. But the rest of those hair bands, I just never really liked them. That wasn't my thing. I would much rather listen to like, Third Base or Public Enemy or something like that.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Getting into that too.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, And Run dmc, Beastie Boys. But then Guns N Roses put out Appetite for destruction in 88.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Incredible.

[Brian Green]

Fucking A. I didn't want to listen to anything else. That album. I had to buy three of those cassettes because I wore them out. I was listening to them so much. Yeah, yeah. So this coming from a kid who bought Huey Lewis and the News as one of his first CDs.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

There you go.

[Brian Green]

Well, Huey Lewis. Please tell me Huey Lewis ain't one of the greatest pop R and E I know he's hearing.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Right?

[Brian Green]

What an affliction to have. If you're like, you know, Huey Lewis Live at the Palladium. I think it's Live at the Palladium, which is one of the only, like, live concerts shot professionally of Huey Lewis in the news with the full horn section behind him.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

So good.

[Brian Green]

Fuck, man. That's like.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

If you don't bop your head to that, then you're just not alive.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I mean, didn't he and Gwyneth Paltrow do a movie together?

[Brian Green]

Maybe. Maybe.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

Maybe come.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Right.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

But he's also, you know, the soundtrack for Back to the Future.

[Brian Green]

Soundtrack? Back to the Future. Soundtrack for. What's the movie with Christian Bale? The murder movie. Oh, American Psycho. Psycho. American Psycho. Huey Lewis in the News.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That's the soundtrack for that movie.

[Brian Green]

Yes, it is. He loves American. The Psycho loves Huey Lewis, Loves Huey Lewis. He murders to Huey Lewis. And he talks about how Huey Lewis is the greatest American rock band of all time.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I haven't seen that movie.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it takes on a whole different connotation, like when, you know, Back to the Future, American Psycho. But either way, the music is fantastic.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

But his music was great.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I had a wild musical taste. It varied greatly.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Me too.

[Brian Green]

When Appetite for Destruction came out. Fucking A right. Appetite for Destruction came out. And then Master of Puppets from Metallica and just forget about it. It was a. It was a one, two punch. And then shortly after that, 91, you know, they're playing Nevermind. And when Nevermind comes out, I didn't see a hair band since. Until Bret Michaels showed up on Rock.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Of Love, which for my sister and.

[Brian Green]

I watching that, everybody watched Rock of Love. It was so good.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

It was so good. What's the. What was the girl's name?

[Brian Green]

Oh, I don't even.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Her own spin off.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, she had her own spin off. She was great, too. We actually watched two episodes of her. Daisy of Love. Daisy, yes. Not Daisy Fuentes, who was another MTV house of fashion. Oh, my God. Daisy Fuentes. Daisy Fuentes.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

She's still doing really well. I saw. I was watching one of my real estate shows where they're, you know, buy this, sell that, whatever, and.

[Brian Green]

Oh, she's a real estate girl.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

No, it was her house.

[Brian Green]

They were.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

They were selling her a house or selling her house, something.

[Brian Green]

If you would ask me, for a seven year Period there. Who. Who for me was the most beautiful woman on earth? Daisy Fuentes.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah. She was amazing. Yeah, she still looks great.

[Brian Green]

And she's latina, isn't she? Yeah. It's all starting to make sense now.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

Think about it. It's all starting to make sense.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Your formative years.

[Brian Green]

My formative years. I was formulating all over Daisy. Let's just put it this way. A lot of 21. A lot of EPMs over Daisy Fuentes.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

You got. You got in your 21.

[Brian Green]

I. Oh, just 21, like in two days. Yeah. I was a kid. That's the thing that I look forward to least about raising boys is that like 10 year period of let's have sex with the, you know, the door jam. Let's fuck anything that moves. It's just boys. It's what we go through. I'm sorry. You know, you like women or you like men or you like whatever. It's just one of those things. God blesses you with hormones are real. Yeah. With a raging case of hormones. All right, let's take a break. When we get back, I'm gonna apologize and we're gonna fix something made wrong by Brian just a short week ago. All right, we'll be back.

[Rachel]

Why don't you text us and we can text back and then you can text us and reply then so on. It's a fun little game I've been playing and I think you'll be great at it. 212-4333-TCB. That's 212-433-3822. You could leave a message too. If you do, maybe you'll end up being the voice of the show. But be warned, the pay is not great. You could go to the website and drop us an email. Also tcbpodcast.com and while you're there, you can get a free sticker. Who doesn't want a free sticker? Just go to the contact us button and ask for one. Follow us on insta at the commercial break and watch the [e-mail] the commercial break. Now I'm going to go back to that texting game you want to play. Come on. Bye.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, Chrissy, found it. It's nothing but a good time.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yep. Paramount plus three part docu series three.

[Brian Green]

Part docu series about the hair bands in the 80s. Okay, I'm going to watch it while I'm editing tonight. All right, Apollo. Apologies from Brian. If you don't mind, Chrissy, a mea copa from me a couple of weeks ago we did a video on Teresa Caputo because we believe. We think there's going to be a piece of merch with piggy fronting on it. Right. We don't know 100%. We'll know when the. Like you will when the merch drops. We think we know, but we don't know for sure. But piggy fronting will be one of the options, we believe, on some of the merch that you can get piggy fronting on. So I said, let's go back and review a Teresa Caputo video because we hadn't done one in a while, and I thought that I got a video where Dr. Oz spent an episode talking about Teresa Caputo's powers and testing them through brain imaging. Now, what we reviewed it was that episode was referred to, but it was not the actual episode. Well, I found the episode where they did the brain imaging, and I'd like to say I'm sorry I didn't have it available back then and make it available to ourselves now.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Apology accepted.

[Brian Green]

Thank you. I appreciate it, Chrissy. So here it is, Teresa Caputo getting scanned. And let's see what kind of wordsmithing they do here to make this make sense.

[Michael]

So what do we want to accomplish today?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

You know, I'm not that kind of person that I need to know how things work.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

She's nervous.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, she's nervous. I'm not that kind of person where I actually need to understand whether or not I'm full of shit. Oh, my God. If I had these powers, I would have done this years ago. Yeah, yeah. But now she's just coming up. She didn't come up with this idea, by the way. I think Dr. Oz came up with.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

This idea, but I know that my brain just doesn't work like everyone else's.

[Brian Green]

Oh, we know, too. Oh, we're well aware.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

The things that I say and the things that I do is prompted by spirit. And I think it's hard for people to understand.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

The doctor is looking at her like. Mm.

[Brian Green]

What's the guy's name? Michael something.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He's like Anan or Aman.

[Brian Green]

Michael Aman or Michael Anand. He's a world renowned. He is.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I've read a couple of his books, actually. Yes, they're interesting. He came up with this scanning.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, this type of scanning that checks which part of your brain is doing what. When he. And he's an older gentleman. When he was on the show last time, like with the last episode. Yeah. What all he said was that her prefrontal cortex was overactive. When she was doing these readings, Chrissy and I did a little bit of chat gpting to figure out that your brain does the same thing when it's lying. So he's not really. Okay, let's just listen to that.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He's just giving the facts.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he's giving the facts. He can't interpret exactly what's going on in someone's brain.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Damn. What I do. It just happens. I can't explain it. And, you know, everyone's like, well, there's no scientific proof, so, you know, I wanted to see some type of scientific proof to show that my brain does work a little differently.

[Michael]

What we're gonna do is work.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Just that her brain works different doesn't mean.

[Brian Green]

Doesn't mean anything. Yeah, people who are autistic or neurodivergent, their brains work different.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Brain is different.

[Brian Green]

I guarantee, if you scan my brain, it'd be working differently. There'd probably be, like, a big couple patches in the middle.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Dark matter.

[Brian Green]

Be like a magic mushroom growing from one side of it. Ayahuasca dripping out of my prefrontal cortex.

[Michael]

Measure what goes on in your brain in sort of a normal state. And then when you're reading the quantitative eeg, that's sort of the primary one.

[Brian Green]

We'Re gonna do today.

[Michael]

It looks at electrical act.

[Brian Green]

Okay. Okay. Like she understands any of it.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Gotcha.

[Brian Green]

All right. As long as you can figure out that I'm not lying. Okay.

[Michael]

And I think it would be really interesting.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah.

[Michael]

To do.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Because I know something happens.

[Brian Green]

She's trying to convince him like she tries to convince everybody else that something is magic about her.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I know things are happening, but I always say it.

[Brian Green]

I am dumb as he is not convinced. This is the. This is the look of a. This is the look my dad used to give me when I was lying to him. And, yeah, we've all seen that look.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Furrowed.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Your brows are furrowed. Your lips are pursed a little bit. You squint your eyes. Yeah. Because you're like. Are you really trying to get that one over on me? The Epstein files. What? They disappeared. What?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

The doorknob. My brain doesn't retain knowledge. I just know things. I don't know why.

[Brian Green]

I know Daniel. Amen. Is his name okay. Yeah.

[Michael]

Book on this scan.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

Okay. So let's go. He just shut her up. He's like, oh, okay. Okay, let's. Congratulations.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay, great.

[Michael]

Check it out with Theresa.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Wait. He had a thing on the back in the back of his office that said, wear a helmet. Exclamation point. And she is.

[Brian Green]

She is wearing a helmet. Yes. She's literally taking advice minute by minute. Okay, so let's go.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay, great.

[Michael]

Check it out. With Teresa, we're actually measuring the moment by moment activity in her brain. So what I'm gonna do today is read Teresa's brain while she reads spirit.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Thanks, Jesus.

[Brian Green]

Well, she read spirit. How much did you get paid to do this, Daniel? Come on.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

We're gonna put a cap on your.

[Brian Green]

Head and insert some gel.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Oh, God. Okay.

[Brian Green]

Oh, God. Well, this isn't actually. Yeah, I better take the electrodes out of my brain. Ready?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Ready? Yeah.

[Michael]

So this is how we're gonna measure.

[Teresa Caputo]

Music.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I know. It's like. It's all a very. It's a comedy from the 1940s.

[Michael]

The electrical activity in your brain.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay.

[Michael]

And in your cap, there's 20 electrodes.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God. This is how Teresa should look all day, all night.

[Teresa Caputo]

So weird.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

I can't get electrocuted right now.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, they're gonna put you on there and electrocute you.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. He's like, I don't hear that one every time.

[Michael]

Now what she's going to do is put gel in each of those holes. There are about 20 of them.

[Brian Green]

Oh.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

There's, like, little stuff in my hair.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

What did you think was going to happen?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I'm piggy fronting. You're piggy fronting gel all over me, I think. Doesn't this interrupt the flow of her spiriting or whatever?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

There's a lot of gel in my hair. I don't mind putting on this cap, but this gel is disgusting. This is. Oh, my God. That feels so weird.

[Michael]

The metal has to get a good connection with your scalp and the gel.

[Teresa Caputo]

Look at how much gel they're putting.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

In there just to get through the hair.

[Brian Green]

Yes, that's exactly right. That's what happens when you have a helmet for hair.

[Michael]

Literally connects the metal to your scalp.

[Brian Green]

Jesus.

[Michael]

You're gonna have a lot of goop in your hair.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Goop in my hair? I mean, anything in the name of science.

[Michael]

We're gonna have somebody come.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

She's giving commentary. So is this, like, on her show that she's showing this?

[Brian Green]

I thought it was Dr. Oz, because that's what I Googled.

[Michael]

And you're gonna do a reading.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay.

[Michael]

It's all gonna be good.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Well, like, I don't know. I felt.

[Brian Green]

Look, she's got clips on her ears.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

It doesn't look funny.

[Brian Green]

It looks like she had a Traumatic brain injury. No offense.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Something happened to you and I felt like that you were like a miracle. Like doctors feel that you should have died or you shouldn't be here. And here you are. No disabilities, no ailments, and you're perfect.

[Teresa Caputo]

I did when I was younger. I had a febrile seizure and I had choked on something.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Believe it. You died and then came back. How do you connect? Because I keep getting a pain on the left side of my brain. The left side of the front of my head. It's so strong right now. This is crazy.

[Teresa Caputo]

My stepfather had a stroke.

[Brian Green]

My stepfather had a stroke. Oh, my God. Okay. I think that's making a little bit of a leap. And by the way, I have to tell you this. I don't know what the exact statistic is. Let's see here. There is a statistic out there that a lot of natural births, a lot of them don't go according to plan. Yeah, it's not. But a small number. And having been through can happen and it does happen all the time. It's not particularly abnormal, a febrile stroke. I think a febrile stroke has to do with a fever, actually not having to do with choking. But I don't know, maybe I'm. A febrile seizure. Excuse me. I think is what they say when your temperature raises really high and then you have this. And that's not unusual for a child.

[Teresa Caputo]

By the way, on the left side of his brain and had a portion of his brain taken out.

[Brian Green]

Had a portion of his brain taken out.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

How does that happen?

[Brian Green]

I didn't know they still did lobotomies. What?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

How do you connect with the V name?

[Teresa Caputo]

Virgo.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

He says he was your everything.

[Teresa Caputo]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

I don't believe this. I don't believe this.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, I would prefer that it just be a random person instead of this all set up.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, this is all set up. And there's a lot of editing going on here. They're not showing the entire conversation.

[Teresa Caputo]

He was love of my life passed away. He always was. From the first time that I met him. He was my everything. Eric's full name was Eric Vargo. And everybody called him Vargo. We dated on and off since I was 19. He was loving just a goofball. And I miss him every day.

[Brian Green]

That's really sad.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

He was a bit of a romantic.

[Teresa Caputo]

Yeah, he was the ladies man.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

He just started nibbling on my ear.

[Brian Green]

I'm like, oh, my God. He's nibbling. He's nibbling on your ear. He's nibbling on your ear, Teresa. You fucking asshole. Honestly.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Oh, my God.

[Rachel]

He's.

[Brian Green]

The love of her life is dead, and you're making shit up. The love. The love of her life is nibbling on your ear. I thought you said you don't feel physical things, so would he do that?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I'm like, what is that? Who does that?

[Brian Green]

What is that?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Who does that?

[Brian Green]

Look at the doctor. The doctor's like, you're taking it way too far, Teresa.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

And he's like, she'll know it's me.

[Teresa Caputo]

Eric and I had a great physical chemistry, so him nibbling on her ear was a huge validation.

[Brian Green]

So him fucking some other chicks was perfectly acceptable. We had a great physical chemistry. He was with a lot of other women.

[Teresa Caputo]

I was like, he's here. Okay.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So he asked me for you to close your eyes because he wanted you to feel him. So I don't know if you saw him or if you saw colors.

[Teresa Caputo]

I saw colors in the beginning.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Perfect.

[Teresa Caputo]

It was hard for me to close my eyes at first, but as it went on and I just. All the good memories.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

That was him. He gave you a piece of him. And did you actually feel your heartbeat?

[Teresa Caputo]

Yes.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Know that that was his soul that was helping your heart to beat. And I saw.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my go.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He took a break from nibbling the ear.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. He's not nibbling the ear now. He's helping your heart beat. Yeah. Knowing that. No, that's him helping your heartbeat by.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

His thumbprint on your heart. So know that through everything that you.

[Brian Green]

Do, she is literally making shit up as she goes along.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

His memories will live on within your heart. So know that when you.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

And I have to say, you know, through all of this, she. You know, these people are looking for something, and she's providing that, of course. And she's saying she always makes everybody feel better, I guess. You know what I mean? Like, there's never an instance where she's like, yeah, you really fucked up.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

The spirit's pissed at you.

[Brian Green]

Well, yeah. No, that's true. She never. Yeah. She never goes to a place where it's like, you know, you.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

It's more like everything's okay, you murdered your mom. Love you.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, obviously. But that, to me, lends less credibility to what's going on because, you know.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah. No, enough.

[Brian Green]

Real life is not like that. But. Yes. But that is what Teresa Caputo is. I think, at her base nature is a woman who fabricates things in an effort to manipulate other people's feelings, to be more optimistic, positive. I don't know, gentle about a great loss in their lives. Some I. And I bet that's how she justifies what she does to herself. She probably justifies it at night when she goes to sleep saying, at least I'm helping people out. But I have to imagine that there is some kind of damage that this causes long term to a believer who really, really, really wants to believe that someone. I am not saying.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Well, again, as we've said, there's a lot of people out there and a lot of them aren't.

[Brian Green]

Well, yes.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

And I can't imagine that through all the years, all the readings, all the things that she has done for people, that there wouldn't be somebody along the way that was like, no, no, no, no, wait.

[Brian Green]

Yes. I can't imagine all of them. Yes. Every single person.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I want to talk to them again.

[Brian Green]

Yes. If somebody I had lost.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

You have the connection.

[Brian Green]

Correct. And that's the part where I think this is like. That's one of the things I think could be really detrimental about this is if Teresa is the person, if Theresa is the cell phone which gets you connected again to the one that you care about so much that you just won't answer your phone call. Aren't you doing everything you can to get back to get that cell phone in your hands again? Yes. Do I believe that there are dimensions and planes and energies outside of our understanding? A thousand percent. I believe it in my core. I just don't.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Not ones that are nibbling ears.

[Brian Green]

Yes, that's it. I don't believe that Theresa's getting her ear nibbled by spirit. So weird heartbeat.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Know that that was his soul. Why it became stronger. And I felt him wrap himself around you. So if you felt warm or you felt a chill, you felt something warm.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Warm or a chill?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, warm or a chill. Either you were cold or you were hot. Somewhere in between. Maybe you didn't feel anything at all. That was him wrapping himself around you. I felt it. You don't have to. I felt it for you. Oh, there he is, sticking his finger in my ass.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He's spicy.

[Brian Green]

He's playing with my labia. He is frisky. He's romantic. He's romantic.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Oh.

[Brian Green]

One in the pink, two in the stink. Look out. I feel someone nibbling on my nipples. Was that him? Was he like that? Oh, oh, oh. I had a dirk in my mouth. I just imagine this ghost, like, full. I'll meet Theresa from behind. Like, ow. It's crazy. Finally, someone who gets me closed.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Know that that was his soul entering and leaving your physical body. Do you know someone that had the miscarriage or the termination?

[Teresa Caputo]

I did.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Kay.

[Brian Green]

Kay. Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

All right.

[Brian Green]

I think this is a good place to take a break and we can all gather ourselves. I mean, there's nothing funny about that. I don't mean to say that. It's just the way that. No, Teresa and I don't love how this is edited. I really don't. And I think.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Well, and they're sitting down, like, across from each other at a desk.

[Brian Green]

Yes. I think this is a little too on point. I would. And we. We know. At least not in this video. No one is told how this lady showed up, why she showed up, where she's from does Theresa's.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Right.

[Brian Green]

I bet Theresa's people have an understanding of who's coming in the door, because that's probably an agreement for the television production.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

She would have never aired it.

[Brian Green]

Never? Never. This is a television production.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

And so that's the thing that's so great about the cold readings when we watch those, is because she makes things fit.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

And then. Oh, I see something. Oh, wait, that's not you.

[Brian Green]

That's not you. It's you. It's you.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. That's the thing about cold readings is they go much worse for her. This. It's obvious that she's stretching. She's doing broad questions and trying to zero in. When she does these personal readings on her television show, they always seem to be 100% spot on, but they're highly edited. You don't know how she found the people. And you have. You have to make the assumption that the production team knows who's going to be there ahead of time. They understand who they're dealing with, and it's likely they have information that they have fed to Teresa or are feeding to Teresa, because it just seems so. Don't you think Teresa would be the most scientifically studied human being in the course of history if any of this was even a little bit true? This doctor who, while well respected, as in, at least in any of the videos I've seen, has never said, this is proof of something happening.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Extra spirit.

[Brian Green]

Spirit, yeah. That's like spiritual. He has just said something happens different to her brain. But that could be because she's lying, because she puts herself in a meditative state, because she's overthinking, overworking, trying to figure out what the next thing to say is. It's not particularly unusual what her brain is doing. It's just doing it in a way that the doctor can now read. So. But again, think about this. If Theresa was actually talking to spirits and she, in fact cared this much about science and people having scientific proof, would she not be the most studied person in history? The CIA, by the way, has research on this all the time. It's well documented. And they have found proof that people can remote view and send conversation from one person to another without saying into psychic abilities. But those people aren't on fucking TV with big hair.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

All right, we'll be back.

[Teresa Caputo]

Okay.

[Rachel]

You're probably wondering why I, Rachel, have taken over the voice duties at tcb. It's pretty simple. Astrid asked me to shut Brian up, even for a minute. Well, lovely Astrid, your wish is my command. Do you want to help Astrid, too? You know you do. Leave a message for her or me or Chrissy at 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. You can be on the show, too. Just call and say something, anything. Or text us, and we'll text you right back. Promise. Then head over to tcbpodcast.com and get your free sticker. It's your constitutional right to a sticker, and we must abide. You get the point. Follow us on Instagram at the commercial break and watch all the episodes on [e-mail] the commercial break. Best to you and Astrid. Especially Astrid.

[Brian Green]

All right, we're back here with Teresa Caputo doing a reading. I. I don't. I'm not going to call this a cold reading. Probably a very warm reading of a girl while her brain is attached to. To a suction device. All right. And she just asked if she's spot.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

On with everything so far.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, so far it's 100% accurate, but also highly edited. So here we go.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

No regrets. And whose birthday is it? Is it your birthday? Whose birthday?

[Teresa Caputo]

Our birthdays are very close together. He's April 15th, and I'm April 16th. And he also passed away on our birthday.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And he says that. I'm sorry. Was he far when you. When he died?

[Teresa Caputo]

Yeah, he was about it. Yeah, he was about an hour.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Okay. He brought me through the departure. I didn't feel I was at a.

[Brian Green]

Okay, how did he die? Tell us.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

High rate of speed. I felt that I was driving, and then all of a sudden, my car just kind of veered off and slowly crashed into a tree.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

What? There's just no way.

[Teresa Caputo]

Passed away five years ago in a car accident on his way home from his birthday. I wish that I was with him that night. I do. It was my birthday as well, and I was out with my friends, and I feel like I was having fun that night when. When it happened.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I mean, it's a very sad story.

[Brian Green]

It is a terrible story. And I feel terrible for this young lady.

[Teresa Caputo]

It gives me a sense of a big regret. Yeah.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Her ears are sticking out.

[Brian Green]

She's got clips on her ears. That's why she feels like someone's nibbling on her ears. They have electrodes attached to her earlobes.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

He also showed me that when he died, you felt his soul after he left. Because he says, I did come and say goodbye to you.

[Teresa Caputo]

There was a moment where I felt something was off. Like, I felt, well, you were out.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Having fun with your friends at the party.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Like, maybe. Okay.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

So know his soul.

[Brian Green]

I don't want to make fun of her misery.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

No, no, no, no.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

To say goodbye.

[Teresa Caputo]

Okay.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

He says, I want her to know that I. Because I said to him, why do you keep making me feel the blow?

[Chrissy Hoadley]

When did you say that?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, when did you say that?

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

She's to the front of my head. And he said, because I want her to know that I died instantly.

[Brian Green]

See, here's the thing that's interesting about Teresa, too. And if you've just tuning into the commercial break, we've done lots of these videos, so we kind of get the rhythm of Teresa and what she's all about. We've heard her talk about her special little powers before, and one of the things that she says is that she doesn't hear people talking to her directly. She gets a feeling. But she often says, he says, he's telling me. He's telling me, he says. She also says she doesn't get physical touch. She can't physically be contacted, but she just said that someone was nibbling on her ear. So the rules bend and. And break according to the moment when she needs to pull somebody in further. It's an old parlor trick. It's what it is.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And he says, you feel if you were with him, you would have been able to protect him, and maybe he wouldn't have died. Is that correct?

[Teresa Caputo]

Yeah. He fell asleep at the wheel, and he was aware of his seatbelt.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

He wants you to know that even if you were there doesn't mean that you could have prevented his departure. Our destiny in life is set. Unfortunately, this accident still would have happened. He says, but what if you did drive and there was still an accident and I departed? Where would have guilt lie then? He says, no regrets. He wants you to know that you were his last thought when he departed. He says, because I always thought of you. You are very special. And he said, please tell her, don't cry for my soul. He says his soul is with you always. He actually said to me, close your eyes. I want to show you something.

[Brian Green]

It's my dick.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

And when I did that, I can see you holding his hand and just walking.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That's a sweet thought.

[Brian Green]

No, that's a sweet thought. It's like, I don't know, kind of like one of those cards you would get at a grocery store. It's a very nice. Very nice thought.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

He said, please tell her that I will walk with her for all the days of her life.

[Teresa Caputo]

I'm feeling relieved. Teresa validated the fact that I could have. Could not have changed him if I was there. I could not have changed what happened.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

He said, I want you to be able to embrace life with happiness and joy. And when you do leave, his soul will be there to greet you.

[Brian Green]

You.

[Teresa Caputo]

This reading has actually taken away the pain that.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That part is good.

[Brian Green]

Sure.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

If she's a real and not an.

[Brian Green]

Actor, I have to agree with you there. I. I do not want to knock somebody's real grief, but I am a little bit suspicious about this whole thing. It feels to me to be a little cooked up.

[Teresa Caputo]

I was carrying around with me.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Very nice to meet you. Good luck to you.

[Teresa Caputo]

And so my heart is lighter.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

And then that's the love of my life.

[Brian Green]

Hey, listen, I'm gonna keep your boyfriend tongue in my ear, and I'll talk to you later.

[Teresa Caputo]

Be better. And I feel like I'll be able to love better.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

He's like, damn, his brain is crazy.

[Brian Green]

I know. He's like, she. This is the same thing we see with schizophrenics, but how do I make this sound good for telev?

[Michael]

All right, so this is gonna be the interesting one.

[Brian Green]

Uh.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Oh, the big reveal. Watch. There's nothing there.

[Brian Green]

Oh, she's preparing. She's setting everybody up for nothing to happen.

[Dr. Daniel Amen]

Did anything happen?

[Michael]

The big thing we discovered is that her brain is clearly different.

[Brian Green]

Okay, so we saw. Yeah, I know, but we. It goes to TLC commercial.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

This was her show.

[Brian Green]

Oh, you're right about that. This was her show. Okay, this is tlc. The. The sky version, the BBC version. But in any case, what we did here last time, we now connect the dots, is that what he said was the prefrontal cortex of Teresa's brain works in overdrive as she's giving this reading. Chrissy, they didn't. He gave no additional context. He gave no additional context. That's all he said.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Was that here's a person that's talking normally to their friend. Not a lot of. Not a ton of prefrontal cortex. Here's Teresa while she's giving this reading, a lot of prefrontal cortex. And so Chrissy and I went and used CHAT GPT to understand it a little bit deeper. And Chat GPT said that the prefrontal cortex is used when lying, when being creative, when making up, when having, like, when you're doing critical analysis, when you're trying to think of something, when you're trying to reason through something. So it could be that Teresa is just storytelling in her own head and that's why it goes into overdrive, or it could be that she is trying to remember and reason through things that she knows she needs to, like the bullet points, the beats that she needs to hit when she is reading this particular person. If you ask me, and I don't know this for a fact, this particular reading seemed very set up to me. Very even. The way the young lady was reacting to the way that Teresa was saying things seemed.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Yeah, this is not a person off the street. This is just, you know, already she. It just. The interview cuts to just this woman that's just sitting in this office.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Ready?

[Brian Green]

Yes. Now, I know from my own personal research online that there are tens of thousands, probably millions of people who think Teresa Caputo is real and everything she has to offer is true. And that there is definitely. She is definitely making connections. I don't know that to be true or not true. I suspect it's not. My own eyes, ears, and amazing abilities of deduction tell me. It's probably not. But if that's what you believe, that's what you believe. Hey, listen. You know.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Exactly. Each to their own, I guess. If it's helping somebody.

[Brian Green]

I have some land in Florida I'd like to sell you and some merch.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

That's true.

[Brian Green]

God bless you, Theresa, wherever you may be. I don't like what you're doing, but, you know, if it's real, if. If what? If that girl's story and her reactions and everything was real. Well, at least she didn't walk away. Yeah, she's alleviate her. She's alleviated. She's been alleviated.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

She's been alleviated from pain.

[Brian Green]

From pain. There you go.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

And regret.

[Brian Green]

Okay. All right. Do we all. Do we all feel better now? We all feel like we got something out of this science. Science. What's that? Oh, man. I love it. I do love me a good Teresa Caputo video. And this one a bit more serious than most of the ones we do.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I mean, it's like the mountain monsters thinking that they're actually catching monsters.

[Brian Green]

That's right. But here's the difference. I know know that when the mountain monsters, when the cameras turn off, I totally know that the mountain monsters don't believe their own. Do you know what I'm saying? They know they're acting. They know Teresa has to put this on all day and all night long. And I'm sure everyone she comes in contact with wants a reading, is asking her, but she's fabulously wealthy.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

Well, again, I mean, it must be very crowded in her head and in her space.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

What she goes through the life with seeing and hearing.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, bunch of ghosts nibbling on her ear and piggy fronting her head and all that stuff. All right, merge, drop and TCB minus. Pay attention. It's coming and we'll let you know here very shortly. Save your ducats, kid. Get your ducats in a row. Break open your piggy fronting banks. We're gonna sell you some merch. 212-433. TCB 212 433-3822. Get involved in the conversation. Questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas. We'd love to hear it and we'd love you to be a part of the conversation. So send us a. A text message. It's not like a spam text message line. It's in our studio. We actually respond. Direct connection piggy fronting right to you at the commercial break on Instagram, TCB podcast on tick tock, YouTube.com the commercial break and tcb podcast.com for all the audio, video and your free sticker. Just go give us your address. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for now.

[Chrissy Hoadley]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

I'll tell you that I love you. Best to you. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I will say, we do say, and we must say goodbye.

[Teresa Caputo]

RA.

[Brian Green]

5:30.