The Bloom is ON the Rose!

Summary

The Commercial Break – Episode 461: "The Bloom is ON the Rose!" (Featuring Rosebud Baker)
Release Date: January 16, 2024
Hosts: Bryan Green & Krissy Hoadley
Guest: Rosebud Baker

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Episode Overview

This lively and irreverent episode of The Commercial Break features comedian and SNL writer Rosebud Baker. Known for her dark humor and fearless material, Rosebud discusses her comedic style, her path into stand-up, working at SNL, and how she finds laughs in the most taboo subjects—including personal tragedy. The conversation blends signature TCB banter with probing, thoughtful moments, all delivered in a relaxed, uncensored style.

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Key Topics & Takeaways

1. Opening Banter & Holiday Hangover (00:00–14:00)

• Context Setting: Bryan lets listeners know the episode was recorded around the 2023 holidays, setting up the chat’s slightly off-timed holiday references.
• TCB Return: Krissy’s back after some personal time off. General gratitude to those who helped fill in.
• Salty Snack Dilemma: Hosts riff about not finding the right snack in the pantry, reminisce about ballpark peanuts, and discuss weird baseball snack habits (chewing shells, Big League Chew, managers smoking in dugouts).
• Peak TikTok: Bryan describes seeing TikTok videos at a gas station pump, joking about becoming a gas station content creator. Side discussion of Jessica Simpson’s career.

"I'm the gayest man you've met that's not gay. Who hasn't touched balls with someone else? Knowingly. Knowingly."
— Bryan Green (06:23)

2. Guest Intro: Rosebud Baker (15:18–17:24)

• Introduction: Bryan and Krissy praise Rosebud’s unique comedic voice, describing her as a perfect fit for TCB’s dark and honest humor aesthetic.
• Comedy Background: Quick run-down of Rosebud’s credentials—Netflix’s Verified Stand Up, SNL writer, Comedy Central special, and her family’s political legacy.

3. Rosebud Baker Joins

Rosebud's Take on the Holidays and Motherhood (18:15–20:27)

• Not a Christmas Person: Rosebud admits she never liked Christmas, but having a baby has her “putting up the tree.” Jokes she’ll remember the holiday for her baby, who won’t remember it at all.
• Bryan’s Parenting Wisdom: Bryan assures her that Christmas gets fun when your child is old enough to remember the magic—“There is no joy…like watching children on Christmas Day when they can remember shit.” (19:38)

4. Growing up Baker: Politics and Privilege (20:28–24:51)

• Liberal Roots with Conservative Heritage: Rosebud explains she developed liberal leanings partly from being “born unemployable,” and by wanting to do things independently, despite her family’s political legacy.
• Reflections on Money, Privilege, and Independence: Open about her privileged safety net, but details her desire to bootstrap her own way in comedy and adulthood.

“My dad used to always say...it’s easy to be a Democrat when you’re not paying your own bills. And I was like, I see what he’s saying now.”
— Rosebud Baker (21:28)

• Politics in the Public Square: All agree that political conversations are now omnipresent, with the “loudest people in the room” dictating the tone.

“The loudest people in the room are always the craziest.”
— Rosebud Baker (22:46)

5. Finding Her Voice: Stand-Up Origins (24:51–28:32)

• Acting Roots: Rosebud tried acting in New York but gravitated towards stand-up after friends encouraged her to tell jokes herself rather than hand them off.
• First Time Onstage: Her first open mic (reading her uncle’s ‘redneck haikus’ in an accent) got one laugh, and she bolted. But once she tried it again in NY, she was hooked.
• Documentary Break: Being featured in the doc Inside Jokes about JFL’s New Faces festival gave her the big break to quit her day job and pursue comedy full-time.

“It was all just sort of a dark night of the soul that ended up—I just ended up in an open mic.”
— Rosebud Baker (28:32)

6. The Dark Comedy Ethos: Humor from Pain (28:43–34:35)

• Life as Slapstick Misfortune: Rosebud sees her own misadventures as slapstick: “You see the guy, slip on a banana peel, get up, step in a bucket, step on a rake—that’s what my life has kind of felt like.” (30:17)
• Personal Tragedy as Material: Shares the emotional toll of her sister’s death just before graduating high school, and how her family’s response (“a life-sized cardboard cutout of my sister at Christmas”) was both “so fucked up to me” and so, so funny to her.

“My family put a life-sized cardboard cutout of my sister…Now she’s dead and she’s got to watch us open presents.”
— Rosebud Baker (32:27)

• Using Tragedy for Connection: Making jokes about taboo subjects (death, funerals, etc.) is cathartic—particularly since some people “can’t laugh about this stuff.”

7. Inside SNL: The Real Writer’s Room (35:41–43:47)

• Landing the Job: Rosebud got recruited after previously submitting a writing packet. Details the whirlwind invite to join mid-season in 2021.
• Workload Realities: Describes SNL’s “insane schedule”—Monday through Saturday, with little recovery time, frequently working until 4-5 AM.
• Writers’ Room vs. Stand-Up: She loves both, though stand-up may edge out writing: “If I had to do one, I would go with stand-up…but that could change on any given week.” (39:10)
• Typical SNL Week:
  • Mon: Pitch to host
  • Tue: Write all sketches overnight
  • Wed: Table read of about 30 selected sketches
  • Thu: Rewrites
  • Fri: Blocking
  • Sat: Dress rehearsal & live show

“It’s like I just put myself in the ICU.”
— Rosebud Baker on SNL’s workload (38:17)

• Personal Sacrifices: Took the job after discussing the strain with her husband (“I was newly married… I won’t take it if you really think it’s just going to be bad for us, because it will be”), but his support made her leap.

8. Acting & Other Projects ("Life & Beth," Amy Schumer) (45:19–46:53)

• Life and Beth: Rosebud plays a persistent—and slightly delusional—romantic rival in Amy Schumer’s Hulu series.

“She knows that I’m dating this guy, but…in her mind, she’s dating him. Even though she knows I am…so you almost get mad at me.”
— Rosebud Baker (45:36)

9. Writing That Never Makes It: Favorite Unused SNL Sketches (48:11–51:29)

• “Life Coach” Sketch: Kiki Palmer as a new moon life coach warning friends to “stop sleeping with homeless men” (49:04)—made it to dress but not to air.
• “Sad Single Guy” Sketch: Not yet made it past the table. A sketch about glorifying single men whose actual lives are “deeply sad,” with lines like: “Last week I was parachuting and thought, what if I didn’t even pull the parachute?”

“I was like, women get hammered all the time for not having a kid or not having a family, and I just wanted to do it to a man.”
— Rosebud Baker (51:16)

10. The Darkest of the Dark: Comedy as Therapy (52:34–54:28)

• Darkest Bit: Her current act includes a bit about miscarriage. Writing jokes about it, even “way too soon,” was her way of processing the pain. She acknowledges how much this helps others.
• Philosophy on Humor: Bad things are part of life—why only talk about half your experience? Comedy is a way to connect and “purge a little bit” by sharing the ugly along with the good.

“For me, that leaves half my human experience completely unrecognized.”
— Rosebud Baker (54:19)

11. Audience Reception, Risk, & Performing for “Her People” (56:00–57:25)

• Crowd Dynamics: Early in her career, going dark felt riskier; now, people come to see her “knowing what to expect.”
• Not All Laughs: At her Comedy Central special, an audience member in the front row said he was not having a good time. Rosebud kept it in the cut for honesty.

“It was such a comedy show moment, and I wanted my special to feel like you were at the show.”
— Rosebud Baker (57:43)

12. Touring & Future Work (59:08–60:59)

• Tour Plans: Rosebud plans to tour in summer 2024, with Atlanta on the calendar.
• Upcoming Specials: She’s combining two sets (filmed pregnant and postpartum) for her next special.

“It may be the most unhinged I’ve ever been on camera.”
— Rosebud Baker, about her “Verified Stand Up” set (61:01)

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Standout Quotes & Compelling Moments

• On using humor as a coping mechanism:
  “I find funny in the moments where you’re not supposed to, you know.”
  (32:56, Rosebud Baker)

• On honest crowd work:
  “Are you having a good time?” / “No.” / “Well, it’s staying in.”
  (57:43, Rosebud Baker)

• On the catharsis of sharing dark material:
  “If I get laughs, I feel understood.”
  (53:38, Rosebud Baker)

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Useful Timestamps

• 00:30 – Rosebud’s opening dark humor: "My sister drowned in a Jacuzzi…"
• 06:23 – "I’m the gayest man you’ve met that’s not gay…"
• 18:15 – Rosebud joins the show
• 20:28 – Discussing her family’s politics and her own ideology
• 25:30 – How Rosebud started stand-up
• 32:27 – The “cardboard cutout” Christmas story
• 35:53 – Writing for Saturday Night Live
• 45:19 – Acting in “Life & Beth”
• 49:04 – Describing favorite un-aired SNL sketches
• 54:19 – Comedy as the acknowledgement of life’s ugly half
• 57:43 – Audience member says “No” to enjoying her set
• 59:52 – Upcoming tour (Atlanta included!)

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Tone & Style

Completely unfiltered, self-effacing, and darkly comic, the episode revels in both silly banter and candid truth-telling. The hosts and guest alike are unafraid of taboo, quick to make fun of themselves as well as the world around them. Rosebud’s insights are sharp, her stories frank—and through it all, there’s a disarming warmth and camaraderie.

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Final Thoughts

If you love comedy that goes there, deftly walks the line between heartbreak and humor, and skewers life’s weirdest moments, this episode is a must-listen. Rosebud Baker shines with vulnerability and biting wit, proving how empowering and universally healing laughter can be when nothing else seems to make sense.

Catch Rosebud’s special "Verified Stand Up" on Netflix, and watch for her upcoming tour—summer 2024!

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Transcript

[Brian Green]

Hey, podcast universe. I wanted to drop in so you didn't think you got stuck in some holiday hot tub time machine. When listening to this episode, I figured I'd wait till the January blues were in full effect before dropping our conversation with the darkly hilarious Rosebud Baker on you. If you hear us mentioning the upcoming holidays or the new year, that's the reason why this was recorded a couple of weeks ago. So now you know. And knowing's half the battle. Now go on, get listen to this episode, number 461. For those keeping score of the commercial.

[Rosebud Baker]

Break, here's the thing. My sister drowned in a Jacuzzi, which is a very festive place to drown. It throws off the story, you know, it's like getting shot in the head with a T shirt cannon. Like a Jacuzzi's where I lost my virginity to make it special, and she took that from me. So who's the real victim.

[Brian Green]

On this episode of the commercial break?

[Rosebud Baker]

It was like the first Christ. After my sister died, my family put a life sized cardboard cutout of my sister. Oh, my God. He was watching us. I was like, she's first. Now she's dead and she's got to watch us open.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

Wow. I was like, this is so up to me. It was like, so funny.

[Brian Green]

The next episode of the commercial break starts now.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, boy.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah. Cast the kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is the senior vice president of Ho Ho Ho's, Kristen Joy Odley. Best to you, Chris. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Chrissy's back in action. We're super excited. Thanks to Tina and Christina and Astrid and Marianne and everybody that's been helping out while Chrissy takes some personal time. It's good to have you, my friend.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Thank you. Good to be back.

[Brian Green]

It's good to be seen.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Good to see you.

[Brian Green]

It's good to be seen. All that good stuff.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

There's two things I have to talk to you about that are omnipresent on my mind right now.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Number one, I like the word omnipresent.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, omnipresent. I'm not even sure I'm using that word correctly, but it sounds sexy, so I'm gonna use it. Look it up. Look that up in your Funkin Wagnalls.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

All consuming, right?

[Brian Green]

Yes. It means all. I think what it really means is all knowing, all seeing. They use it for, like, God. Like, he's omnipresent.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Right.

[Brian Green]

But I'm a God in my own mirror, so I'm gonna say that, you know, I'm. It's omnipresent on my mind. Number one, I hate when I go into the pantry and I cannot find the snack that I'm looking for. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, when you're hungry, you just want to nibble on something, but then you go rooting around and you realize they don't. You don't have the thing that you want, but you don't know what the thing is. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I just want something salty. But I don't want any of the salty stuff that's available. I want something else and I can't fucking figure it out. And I'm too lazy to go to the store. And I'm. I'm pissed because all I want is that salty snack. But I can't tell you what salty snack I want.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Little. That's why I keep a bag of the peanuts, the shelled peanuts around, like.

[Brian Green]

Just regular salted peanuts?

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah, like the ones you would get the ballpark.

[Brian Green]

Oh, like the boiled peanuts.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Well, I love boiled peanuts, but.

[Brian Green]

Oh, you get the fully shell, like.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Dried, like the ones that you crack open and you.

[Brian Green]

Oh, you get the crack ones. Oh, you get the ones you got to do work for. Yeah, all that. I get the salter, you know, because.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

That to me gives me like a little bit of the saltiness that I want and I've got to do some work, so I don't eat very.

[Brian Green]

Do you ever eat the shell?

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I've eaten the shell.

[Brian Green]

I've eaten the shell a lot. I am embarrassed to say it, but I'm sure we've all done it.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

It's fiber.

[Brian Green]

I know there's something about that shell.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I don't need it on everyone, obviously, but.

[Brian Green]

But if I'm at the ballpark, I'm not afraid of like chewing on a shell for a few minutes, you know what I'm saying? I feel like those guys out of there spitting and chewing and chawing or whatever. I don't think it's as popular as it used to be. But there's still a lot of guys that. That dip in baseball, I can see it. I can see it in their big mouths. But if you watch it on tv.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Do you say I could see it in their big mouths?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, they're big mouths. It's big baseball player mouths. Oh, they're big fat baseball player mouths. I get ass. Yes, indeed, Brian.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Big mouths are a trader baseball players.

[Brian Green]

But saliva filled mouths with those tongues that Just spit everything out. And I'm like.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Used to do the. Like the big chew too.

[Brian Green]

That's what they're doing.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

The gum.

[Brian Green]

They do that with the gum. But now I think there's like a nicotine related to something that they put in their mouth.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

You know, guys used to smoke cigarettes down in that dining dugout when managers do it. As a matter of fact, I think. I don't. I think it was. I don't want to say the wrong name, but I think it was Dusty Baker that got caught smoking a cigarette, like, during a playoff game, like in the dugout not too long ago. But it was some manager of a baseball team. He was, like, smoking a cigarette in the dugout while they were in the middle of the game.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Are you sure it was a cigarette? It was a marriage. I wanna.

[Brian Green]

It could have been a hot toddy.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Where was this game being played? Was it in California or Colorado?

[Brian Green]

Well, I don't know that much about the story I even told. I just know that someone got caught smoking something.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Okay, what was this? Ginger.

[Brian Green]

Ginger. Wrap it up. Smoke it Ginger. Smoke ginger. I mean, I bet there's guys out there who are doing dibbity dabs while they're playing. I know they get P tested and everything like that, but if you're living in California, it's probably against every contract rule that you have to do anything marijuana related while you're on the team's time. But I got to imagine there's quite a few of those guys who are dipping and dabbing while they're. Yeah. You know, you play baseball for a living. It's. It's got to be a tough thing to do. I'm not saying that it helps with anxiety.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Depending on what strain it helps.

[Brian Green]

You just get through the fucking season. 169 goddamn games. Can you imagine?

[Kristen Joy Odley]

It's like. It's like us. We're playing a baseball season.

[Brian Green]

That's right. Only we got to do 172. We got to go post season.

[Rosebud Baker]

Where?

[Brian Green]

The Girls of Fall, apparently.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

The girls.

[Brian Green]

The Girls of Fall. Well, I'm just gonna throw myself into the girl pile.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

You should.

[Brian Green]

It's. There's no hiding it.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

There's enough. Enough estrogen around you.

[Brian Green]

I'm the gayest man you've met that's not gay. Who hasn't touched balls with someone else? Knowingly. Knowingly. Okay. All right. I don't want anybody to come out of the woodwork and be like, I like your balls.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Because I'm tasting to be very interested in Jeff's balls.

[Brian Green]

Oh, Jeff's balls got me hot. Hot, hot, hot, hot. You don't understand.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

They're naked cooking.

[Brian Green]

Sometimes I have that little baby monitor.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I was laughing to myself the other day.

[Brian Green]

You were naked cooking.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

No, no, I was not naked cooking. I was laughing about the naked cooking because literally, I could not naked cook.

[Brian Green]

Because you would burn every well of your body.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Well, no. Yeah, I burned myself too much. There's oil that splatters out. There's, you know, different things and whatever. Naked cooking. I don't know. Naked drink serving.

[Brian Green]

Okay, that's.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

And, you know, apron and heels.

[Brian Green]

But I feel like Jeff's testicles have been through a lot. Like, I think he could handle if he got a little splashy oil on his balls. You know what I'm saying? I take a dick and keep on licking. Oh, yeah.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I don't think that feels good at any point to be splash with oil.

[Brian Green]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I have to wear a full glove now when I'm cooking with oil. Jeff was finally. Just wear.

[Brian Green]

Just wear a fucking glove. I know. Astrid's always doing this dance where she's like, throws it in and. As if a grenade landed in front of her kitchen. And I'm like, what's going on?

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I even have, like, the grease splatter screen.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

That I'll put in. But when you lift it up, it still splatters. So I have on, like, goggles and gloves.

[Brian Green]

When I was working at Mickey D's, I saw somebody slip and put their hand into a grease bath. Yeah, I. I mean, I didn't actually see that. I saw him pull his hand out and I quickly turned away. Quickly turned away. But I've never heard a scream like that my entire life.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

No, I've had third degree burns, and it. It takes a while to.

[Rosebud Baker]

To.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

To recover.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. This guy was gone. He just left. I mean, I don't know. I don't know whatever happened to him. He's rushed off by an ambulance. Yeah. But it was a busy Saturday, so we just kept chicken. The. You know, we just kept cooking the. The mcchickens in that fry. Don't worry about it. The skin is the best part. That's what they say. The crispy skin. All right, number two thing that's on my mind. I think we've reached peak tik tok. And let me explain why we've reached peak TikTok. I pull up to the gas station the other day. The shell or whatever it is, you know, they got those damn screens on the Gas stations now, and they follow you around. As soon as you put in your credit card, they know what you're interested in. Right. The credit card company gives them immediately.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Get back into the car.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I don't always do that. I. I don't know why I stand outside the car, but I stand outside the car even when it's freezing cold. I always lock my doors. Yeah, Always lock my doors. Especially in Atlanta. This has been a rational.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

That happened to a friend of mine.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Well, I told Astrid, I said, astrid, if anybody ever approaches you at a gas station, you tase them. I gave her a taser. I'm like, you tase them? Don't even ask questions, just tase them. Yeah, pepper spray them. Well, actually, near a gas tank. I probably should tell her to pepper spray.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

But I go to the gas. Gas station, I'm standing there, and all of a sudden, on the tv, they have that little guy. You're watching gas station news. Gas station news. Rolling Stone claims, you know, names the top 50 guitars of 2023. And then it's like, here's your tick tock reel of the day. And up comes our TikTok. You know, your TikTok post of the day. And up comes a TikTok post that was also shown to me on my actual TikTok. And they were just scrolling through the TikTok posts at the fucking gas station. And I'm like, why are you showing me tik tok posts at the gas station on a screen attached to a fudgeing diesel handle? Why would you be doing that? What is going on?

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I mean, we know how hard it is to come up with content.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

And imagine, let's just start doing.

[Brian Green]

That was my second thought. It was like, who hires you to be the gas station content creator? Yeah, the God, the gas station podcaster, essentially. How do we get that gig? Because I'm sure it pays better than this gig, and I really want it. That guy, he was just. There's a guy and a girl, you know, who's on it a lot. Who's the girl? I can't remember her name. She's like a former. Like, she was married to Nick Lachey. Was she married to Nick Lachey? For a moment. Is it not. It's not. The girl from Love is Blind? No, not Jessica Simpson. Where did she go? I actually watched a couple of old Jessica Simpson live performances. And I gotta tell you, it's simply the worst thing I've ever heard in my entire life. I can't I don't know how that girl got a record contract.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

She's a mogul now, though. And you know what I freaking. Oh yeah, like she makes, she's on.

[Brian Green]

The gas station thing, so she makes.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Tons of money and it's because of her fashion line.

[Brian Green]

Really?

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

And I do love her shoes.

[Brian Green]

The girl who, who thought chicken like tuna was chicken of the sea. Yeah. Okay. She's good.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

She, she's, she's good at what she does. That's how she's got the good people around her maybe, is what it is, I think.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. But I'm sure she has a hand in, in what goes into the actual collection. I'm sure of.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

And is it her?

[Rosebud Baker]

Her?

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I'm pretty sure her sister Ashley.

[Brian Green]

Ashley Simpson did something.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

No. Well, she's married to Diana Ross's son.

[Brian Green]

Oh, she is?

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah. And they have babies and stuff and. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Wow. Well, we know who has the musical talents in that family. And it's, it's last name doesn't start with Simpson. Yeah. You know, when you're Diana Ross's son, you're never gonna work another day in your life for sure. Diana Ross had like a string of hits there. She's just a, She's a queen. She's the original. Yeah, she's the original. Wasn't she on We Are the World? We are.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Well, that was Dion Warwick, but, oh.

[Brian Green]

Diana Ross wasn't a part of that.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

She might have been, yeah. I mean Diana's like disco queen and then carried on into the 80s and 90s.

[Brian Green]

So now, hey, I know how she's amazing back in the good graces of, of the young generation. You know how gas station tick tock, that's what you do. Listen, we can get one fucking person to follow our TikTok, so maybe we need to go. Gas station TikTok. I'm here to tell you. Gas station content creator guy, Gas station news anchor, I guess is the best way to put it. Even though you never give me any real news. It's just bullshit. But if you need content ideas, Chrissy and I are willing to put clips of the commercial break at every gas station across the United States. That's a way to solve the fossil fuel crisis right there. Watch how quickly people buy electric cars. Like, I'm not going to listen to that motherfucker.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Young kids too now. I mean, most of them don't even get licenses.

[Brian Green]

No. Till they're like 27. Yeah. Just like me, only I wasn't allowed to get a license.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

This reminds me of the Way here today to record. And I saw a car on the. Of the road. You know, I do the ways on the way up here just in case there's some kind of. I mean, I know the way to get here, but in case there's some kind of crazy wreck or something, it'll work me around it. So I did it. But. So I'm. You know, and I'm going up here, and I look to the side, and there it says hazard. You know when it tells you about a hazard. Hazard reported ahead. And I look over, there's like a white. A white car with the hood just directly up.

[Brian Green]

Oh, it's just sitting on top of the glass.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

And it reminded me of you.

[Brian Green]

Oh, listen, that's what. I drove around for four years. But that. That doesn't include the story about when. I think I told this. When I had no driver's license, I was working at a Chili's up north of Atlanta, not my normal Chili's. I was like, filling in for somebody, but I had no car, so somebody had to drop me off there. Then there's like this emergency where we're out of kids margarita cups or something, right? We all need cocaine. I don't know what's going on, but the manager goes like. The assistant manager is like, I need you to go down. He was this hilarious guy. You remember the page in 30 Rock? Who was the.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Oh, yeah, what's his name?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, he had the exact. This assistant manager had the exact same voice, much like a guy that we used to work with. Yeah, managers. Hey, Brian, do me a favor. Needs you run down to the other store down. Down in Marietta, get us some kids margarita cups. Will you do that for me? And I'm like, sure, but I don't have a car. I. Don't worry about it, honey. Take my car. And I'm like, okay. He's like, it's that Honda. It's that white Honda Civic outside. Go ahead, take it. It runs just fine. And I'm like, okay. So I go. I turn on it. Stick shift. All right, fine. Driving down Georgia 400. And I start to notice that the hood is shaking. And I'm like, oh, that's not good. The hood's shaking. That is not good. And all of the sudden, going 60 miles per hour down this major highway in Atlanta, the hood flies up. It opens. It opens. While I'm driving down the Chrissy. By the grace of God and the holy kids. Margarita. She verse. I don't know what happened, but I managed to pull over. It was scary. And it cracked the bottom of the windshield because it came up and flew up. It was. It was intense. It was intense.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Driving blindfolded.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Freak out.

[Brian Green]

Totally freak out. Totally freak out. Hey, so excited, because today we have one of my favorite new comedians. And by new comedians, I mean someone that I've just gotten turned on to, Rose Bud Baker. She is very hilarious. Her comedy is so dark. She talks about all the things that you shouldn't be talking about on a stage, and she makes it hilarious. And it's like my brand of humor.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah, me too.

[Brian Green]

My favorite brand.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I grew up with, like, a morbid sense of humor, Mom.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. So you know what? I think this is why I like the British comedies, because they're subversively dark a lot of times. But when I say subversive, it means there's a joke in there about something dark. You just got to. You got to be smart enough to pick it up. Not with Rosebud. She's going to just tell you exactly like it is. And she's going straight for it on the nose. I love it. It's so funny. She's got a new Netflix special, Verified. On Netflix. She's in episode number one.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

There's Verified Stand Up.

[Brian Green]

Yep. And what they do is they take like ten 12 minute sets from ten different comics over two different episodes. And Rosebud is one of the featured comics. She's also got a Comedy Central special, SNL writer. She's.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

SNL was on Life and Beth and is on the upcoming season of that too.

[Brian Green]

And so I want to dig in about SNL too, because I'm. Oh, I'm so fascinated, everybody. Yes.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

It just seems like this magical world.

[Brian Green]

It is. But I. But I know it's not magical.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Oh, no.

[Brian Green]

It's a lot of hard work. It's a lot of hard work. And so we'll get into it with Rose Bud. She's going to be here in just a few minutes, but go check out her Netflix special, Verified Stand Up. Stand up on Netflix episode number one. You'll catch Rose Bud, Google her, and then you'll figure out also that her grandfather was James Baker, the Secretary of State under George W. Bush.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

So not my favorite grandpa in the world, but I've listened to enough Rosebud comedy that I think we're going to get into her. And she's right up the fucking commercial breaks alley. Yeah. I'm so happy to have her, actually. So let's do this. Let's take a break. And then when we get back, we'll have Rosebud with us.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Okay, Sounds good.

[Brian Green]

All right, we'll be right back.

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[Brian Green]

Hey, Rosebud, how are you?

[Rosebud Baker]

I'm good. How are you guys doing?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, we couldn't be better. It's a happy, happiest time of the year. I don't know who made that, but obviously it was before consumerism completely ruined our lives. Before travel and they had no children and before family.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, for sure. The first person to ever exist just named it.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

That's true.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yep.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, I'm kind of like. I'm not exactly, like, pumped for Christmas. I don't know if. Are you guys. No, people.

[Brian Green]

I'm Christmas person, but ever since I had children, it just completely ruined it for me. Those little kids, you know?

[Rosebud Baker]

It's so funny. I, like, just. I've never liked Christmas. I've always just been like, christmas is ass. I don't, like. I don't. I'm not into it, but I do love now that I have a baby. I'm, like, so pumped. I was, like, putting up the tree. I got decorations. I'm like, who is this person? And she's not gonna remember a single moment.

[Brian Green]

Not a fucking thing. Not one thing.

[Rosebud Baker]

And I'm gonna. And I'm. I'm just. I'm just gonna take pictures and be like, remember, this is. This is when I aired, you know, five. This. There's no way this could sustain itself.

[Brian Green]

You couldn't be more right about this. I've, what, 12 to 15 children? I'm not sure how many kids I have, but they're all running around here somewhere. And when you have kids, I find. I found that it. There's no more Christmas for you. It's all about the children. But I will say on a Positive note. There is no joy on this earth, in my opinion. Like watching children on Christmas Day when they can remember shit. Like, when they're old enough to actually know what's going on. There's nothing as, like, pure as the driven snow, joyful moment that you're going to have when Your daughter is 3, 4 years old and she. She gets excited about Christmas. You are going to light up like a Christmas tree. I swear to God, it's wonderful.

[Rosebud Baker]

I'm excited.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. But then. Then you got to remember, I got to go change a shitty diaper. So it becomes. It's kind of a total.

[Rosebud Baker]

And then they stop opening them, and you're like, oh, right, I'm broke.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah, exactly.

[Brian Green]

I have one overarching question, one big question. I like to start off the interviews with one big question. How in the world. How in the good gravy, cornflakes, did you end up being a liberal? What. What cauldron of mystic experiences made you a liberal? Because your grandfather, if I'm not mistaken, was James Baker. Like, Secretary of State James Baker. How did you end up on the other side of the coin?

[Rosebud Baker]

I think it's just that I was born unemployable. I really. I really think that's what it is. I was just born to be, like, unemployable. I. This is the only job I've ever been able to keep and have and enjoy. And, yeah, it's. It's there. I spent many years with very little money, and I just feel like now. I mean, now that I've got some, I'm like, okay, I kind of see their point, but.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

True.

[Rosebud Baker]

My dad used to always say to me, he's like, it's easy to be a Democrat when you're not paying your own bills. And I was like, I see what he's saying now. I get it.

[Brian Green]

While my dad was not Secretary of State, he said the exact same thing. He's like, you're young and broke. You're liberal. But trust me, when you get kids and money, you're going to be a conservative. And I'm starting to kind of get his point. Like, fiscally, I understand where he's coming from.

[Rosebud Baker]

Basically, I completely get it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I get it. But all this social bullshit is. It's just beyond me. It's turned into a different animal. I can't take it anymore.

[Rosebud Baker]

It is kind of a shock to the system, like, what has happened politically. I'm just like, I don't know what. What I know.

[Brian Green]

You know what My father in law says he's. My wife is Venezuelan and so, like, from Venezuela. And they've seen some real shit go down there. And my father in law always says to me, he says extremes on both ends end up at the same place. Right. And I couldn't agree with him more. Now that I'm like, watching it go down in real time, I'm like, why did. How did everybody get so extreme? I remember when I was a kid growing up, I just don't remember dinner table conversations about politics. As a matter of fact, I think people really tried to avoid that the best that they could. And now it's like the only thing anybody talks about. And yeah, I don't.

[Rosebud Baker]

I honestly don't think it's even as extreme as it seems on the outside. Like on the Internet. I think that it's not as crazy as it appears to be. I. I just think that the loudest people in the room are always the craziest.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Well, I don't know. We've got Marjorie Taylor Greener, Georgia. So.

[Brian Green]

But I do agree with you, the squeaky wheel gets the grease and the print and that I think that's what ends up happening. And especially if you're spending a lot of time on the Internet like I do, in dark rabbit holes trying to figure out what to talk about. When you, when, yeah, when you were a kid, was your, like, you say you're unemployable and you spent a good chunk of your life without money. Did that, like, go into. Without money was not when you were a kid, but when you went out there in the world on your own?

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, I say without money. I mean, it's like at the end of the day, when I, Even when I was like, struggling, I was like, it's not like I don't have a safety net. So I, I say that, but I'm not saying it as if, like, it was that scary. For me, it was. I had the privilege of, like, coming up, like, growing up with money. And I feel like, you know, I never was at a point where I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to be homeless or something like that. It was just like, you know, your.

[Brian Green]

Ability to generate your own income, you felt was. Was you were having a hard time.

[Rosebud Baker]

I didn't. I think I was. I've always been pretty proud and pretty independent, and I don't like feeling indebted to people. So I wasn't accepted, like, help from my parents for a while. And I just was like, I'm gonna do this like, my way. And, yeah, I mean, looking back, I'm like, why did I do that? Like, I should have just taken money from them. But. But, yeah. So when I say without money, I don't mean, like, I was really struggling or anything like that. It was just kind of like, you know, doing it myself.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I get it. I slept under a porch for, like, nine months. It wasn't. It wasn't my crowning achievement in life, but I just was too proud to ask my dad to come back home and not live under the porch. It was on the porch. Okay, fair enough. It was on the porch where there was a light bulb. It was a rocky chair I could sleep on.

[Rosebud Baker]

I was like, okay with the raccoons?

[Brian Green]

Yes, exactly.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

There was a screen.

[Brian Green]

Well, you gotta. There was a screen. That's true. When you go to make your way in the world. What. How do you get into comedy? Like, where does that start?

[Rosebud Baker]

Well, I think I was an actor for a long time trying to, like, make it as an actor in New York. It wasn't really working out, and I. I decided. I was like, I don't want to do this anymore. I just. I want to do something that has nothing to do with me.

[Brian Green]

Hilarious.

[Rosebud Baker]

And I was like, I want to be like a dog trainer or a social worker or something. And I had a friend who had been. Who was in acting school with me, Michael Blaustein, who's like, he's doing great now, and he's a comic. And he was like, you are always sending me jokes. You gotta just do them. Like, I hate that you're sending these to me. Please try them yourself.

[Brian Green]

So you were writing off that. You were writing jokes before you got on stage and you were sending them to other people.

[Rosebud Baker]

I was like, I would have ideas. I wouldn't say that I was writing, but I would have ideas. And I would be like, you should. You should try this, or here's a joke, or, you know, and he was like, I don't. I don't want your fucking jokes. Like, just tell your own joke.

[Brian Green]

So.

[Rosebud Baker]

And I, you know, I get this all the time now, even as a comic, because, like, my parents will, like, send me ideas for jokes, and I'm like, this is. Yeah, I can't stress enough how bad this is. But my. But so my friend is really kind of responsible. Like, he was like, you should try it. I tried stand up on a cross country trip with a friend of mine, and. And then I didn't go near it again. I did it like, it was the scariest thing I've ever done.

[Brian Green]

I can't imagine.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I know.

[Rosebud Baker]

I, I, I, like, read. I think I read my uncle's Facebook posts in, like, an accent. And, like, because he would do these, like, kind of redneck haikus, and I, I just found them hilarious. So I read those on stage. I think I got my first laugh. I bolted and then didn't go back on stage until about three months later in New York. And when I once I had done it in New York, then I was like. And I didn't do horribly. I was like, okay, I want to do this every day. And I just did it every day after that. Just almost like, as, like an impulse. Like the way that a gym addict, like, has to go to the gym. Like, I felt like I had to go. And, and then I think about five years in, I. Four or five years in, I got this documentary called Inside Jokes, and it was about trying to get into the New Faces Festival and. Or the New Faces of Comedy for jfl.

[Brian Green]

Is that just for laughs? And in, In Canada. Right. Okay.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah. And. And I got that documentary, and I was like, it was the first big check that I got, and I left my job and. Which was like, okay, that was bold. But I left my job, and I just, I've booked work ever since. Thank God. Because there's a really good chance that that wasn't going to happen.

[Brian Green]

Sure.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah. Congratulations.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, I. So that's kind of how it happened. It was all just sort of like a dark night of the soul that ended up. I just ended up in a. In an open mic. You know, you.

[Brian Green]

We say this all the time, and especially when we're interviewing comedians, it takes, I think, a great amount of gusto, potatoes, cajones to get on stage, walk that 15ft and know that at any given moment, depending on how. Depending on, I don't know, the which way the wind blows and which asshole walked in the door. You could have a good night or a bad night, but you're gonna have a good night or a bad night in front of a couple hundred, couple thousand people sitting behind a microphone. I can ed it all. Like, if I want, if I choose to, I can edit out the bad parts. I don't, because I'm too fucking lazy, but I could. We are the best mediocre comedy podcast you've ever heard of. So you are so, like, I. I was saying this right before we came on air. I feel like you're a comedy soulmate. You are so dark, and I am so into it. I think That I think there's a lot of satire that I like because it's subversive. They're getting a message through, but you have to have a brain inside your head to get the message. And then there are people who are so on the nose and not afraid to go there, no matter what it is. Is that always been your style? Like, humor through trash, humor through pain? Like, is that always been who you are as a comedian?

[Rosebud Baker]

So I think there's something about nothing going as planned that is just. That lends itself really well to comedy. And I think I've always found there's. There's always just this kind of, like, when bad things happen to me, they happen, like, in multiples. Like, everything. Yeah. All, like, stacks up.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

Like, with each other. And. And so it always feels like my whole life has kind of felt like that thing where, you know, you see the guy, like, slip on a banana peel, get up, step in a bucket, step on a race. That's like, that's what my life has kind of felt like. So that's where I get my humor from.

[Brian Green]

You had a. From reading and listening to your comedy and a few other places that you've been. You had, like, a bit of a rough patch, you know, between, what, 18 years old and your early 20s, and she getting, like, a fist fight in Las Vegas or something? No.

[Rosebud Baker]

So I, I, it was right when I was graduating college, not when I was graduating high school. No. When did my sister die, anyway? My sister died, and it was right at the end. It was at the end of high school, like, three days before my school graduation. And I was. I was leaving for college. My parents had gotten separated.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God.

[Rosebud Baker]

They were not yet divorced. My sister died, and it was just like, holy. Yeah. This is like, what is happening?

[Brian Green]

A tsunami of you. Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah. Just a real, like, God being like, how about, can you handle this? Right. Here you go. Yeah. And just kind of. It was just like. I think that was the first time that it happened where I was like, what the hell is going on? Like, it was just crazy.

[Brian Green]

That's intense.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah. And, you know, there's, as much as I was tragic and awful, there's, like, things about death that are really the way that people deal with it that are really funny because people. It's such a big part of life, and yet every time it happens, we're like, this can't be part of life. So our brains just can't really compute it. And it was like, the first Christmas after my sister died, my family put a Life sized cardboard cutout of my sister.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Oh, my God.

[Rosebud Baker]

Oh, my God. He was watching us. I was like, she's first. Now she's dead and she's got to watch us open.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

Wow. I was like, this is so fucked up to me. It was, like, so funny. And I couldn't stop, like, making jokes about it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

And I think ever since, like, ever since that happened, that has just been my mo.

[Brian Green]

You committed to that.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, that's my sense of humor is like, I find funny in the. The moments where you're not supposed to. You know.

[Brian Green]

I was watching one of your specials a couple of days ago, and I was like, she's just not afraid to go anywhere. She's taking all the dark things and making them so funny. Including. And then I saw you do a couple bits about your. Your sister Chrissy and I did an episode a couple months ago. My mom, who lives in a retirement home, found a man that she dated for a while. And when I say dated, I mean they called each other twice a day. You know what I'm saying? It's like that kind of relationship because they're in the retirement village or whatever. And so he thought they really got.

[Rosebud Baker]

It on in retirement.

[Brian Green]

You got to understand, my mom's boyfriend, I think he. I think nothing was going on downstairs. And so. And my mom was happy to keep the dicks away. She didn't want anything to do with the dick. So she. She told us this on the show. Yeah, but we do this. I ended up getting invited to the funeral. And I show up and there's like, it's me, my twin brother, and then his son, his only son, and my mom. Those are the only people at the funeral. And I don't even know the fucking guy all that well. So we do this whole episode, and that's the. That's like the least funny thing that happened that day. It was a comedy of errors in every way. They almost rolled him over in his grave. He had a pine box. And when I say box, it was like cardboard. He was hanging out.

[Rosebud Baker]

Was he like a bad guy? Like, what?

[Brian Green]

According to. If you would have listened to the eulogy, you would have.

[Rosebud Baker]

You.

[Brian Green]

It was the most.

[Rosebud Baker]

You're like, who was my mom?

[Brian Green]

Listen to this, Rosewood.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I think he was just so old that he. A lot of times people are gone. Other people are. God.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's true, too.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

But he only had one son.

[Brian Green]

He had two children. He had two children. The other kids didn't show up.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Oh, God.

[Rosebud Baker]

But Rose, listen, he was not a Great.

[Brian Green]

No, no, he wasn't. So this is, this is. Eulogy started like this. My dad, he was a little misunderstood. I remember when I was a kid, he had an apartment inside of the apartment building where my family lived and he would spend all his free time there. And I was like, oh, my God. And it got worse from there. The guy couldn't figure out a nice thing to say about his f. But anyway, the point is, I did this episode and it was. I. We really thought it was hilarious. Like, we were cracking up while we were telling it. And then we got a lot of reaction that my mom came on and she told her version of the story. But some people got really upset by it. There was a couple of people who, who, who dialed in and they were like, listen, you know, you shouldn't be making fun of this guy's funeral. Like it's his last rites. That's the way he goes. And I'm like, if you can't laugh about this stuff when it's funny, then that's just the way that some people deal with these kind of things.

[Rosebud Baker]

Showed up.

[Brian Green]

That's right.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Right.

[Brian Green]

I got the right to make fun of it because I was there. No one else showed up.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

And yeah, my mom had a morbid sense of humor. And so I totally get.

[Brian Green]

I just love it. Yeah, I love it when you. You're writing for Saturday Night Live, right? Still writing for Saturday Night Live.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yes, yes.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Tell us all about this.

[Brian Green]

I know that everybody in the world that knows Saturday Night Live is so fascinated by the TikTok of Saturday Live, and I am really fascinated by it. How do you get the job as writer? And which email address do you email your resume to? And can I borrow any of your material just for a minute? I promise to give it back to you.

[Rosebud Baker]

You would, you could totally do that. You'd have. You'd probably stay there for a week and be like, okay, I'm good.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I'm done. I'll see you later.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

How do you get the job?

[Rosebud Baker]

It is an awesome. It's an awesome job. I love it. I actually got the job. It was a little different. Like I, I had submitted a writing packet to SNL probably like three or four years prior. But after that I was like, that was so exhausting to put that packet together. I think I'll just. I'm good. I don't have to work there. It's not a big deal.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

And, and you know, you put together writing packets all the time and a. Stand up. But I think as I Got more busy. I was just like, I don't have time to, like, put this together and send it in. And I think it was, like, 20, 21. I got a call from my friend Lindsay, who's one of the producers there, and she was like, hey, would you ever be interested in writing here? And I was like, yeah, no, I would. I would totally be interested in it. And she was like, okay, I'm gonna set up a call with. You know, they want to. They want to talk to you. The head writers want to talk to you, and. And we'll talk about possibly bringing you in, like, mid season. And I was like, okay. So I met with the head writers, talked to them on Zoom. This was still, like, you know, pretty.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

Height of COVID Right. And. And then I got. I got hired, and I came on, like, two weeks later. Later. I mean, I was. It was wild, though, because I'd known enough people who have worked at SNL to know that it is, like, a crazy job. It's. I love it, but it's this kind of, like, the schedule's insane. It's wild. You're there. Like, I'm there Monday through Saturday. I have Sunday off, and I'm basically, like, recovering that day. And I mean, truly. It's like I just put myself in the ICU. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

You work, like, 20 hours a day. Right. Like, it gets crazy.

[Rosebud Baker]

It gets crazy. And. And then. But I came on, and I was like. I had to talk with my husband. I was like, hey, I've been offered this job. I. I want to take it, but I. I really will not take it if you think that it's like, if it's just going to. I was, like, newly married, and I was like, I won't take it if you really think it's just going to be bad for us, because it will be.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, no doubt. And he was like, no, you should take it. Like, take the job. I would never tell you not to absolutely take it. And I. And I did, and it was great. Like, it's been fantastic. I love it. It's. It's very different from the standup world.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I was just about to ask, like, do you enjoy writing, or do you enjoy standup more? Like, when you. If you could do one.

[Rosebud Baker]

I love both. I. I think I. If I had to do one, I would go with stand up, but that could change on any given week. It's like, you know, because writing is. As much as it seems like an isolated activity, it's really. When it comes to, like, a Comedy room. You're just making other comedians laugh. It's kind of like just yucking it up at a table with people. So that is not unlike stand up. Yeah, it's very similar. You're just like, sometimes if I'm not in the mood to do stand up, I'll go to the club early and just talk to the other comics. Just to get in a mood where it's like, oh, no, I like this. This is. I feel. I'm feeling funny now. I can go on.

[Brian Green]

You're getting the blood flowing, essentially.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it depends on the week. You know, you could ask me next week and I'd be like, I'd rather write.

[Brian Green]

When you. When you guys do a typical week at snl, is it like, guest comes in on Monday. You know, the guest comes in on Monday, you pitch them ideas. You've already. You've already started the banter. You pitch them ideas, they weed through them and say, you know, yes, no, maybe so. And then you kind of refine it from there. Or are you literally coming up with ideas all week long, throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks?

[Rosebud Baker]

No, you're kind of. Well, you're. It's a little bit of both. Okay, so, like, there's a really cool documentary on YouTube that James Franco did called Saturday Night.

[Brian Green]

Yep.

[Rosebud Baker]

That basically goes. It was when he was hosting, and he documented what the workweek like, is like at snl. And it has not changed. It hasn't changed since, you know, 1970.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Right.

[Rosebud Baker]

It's basically like, you go in Monday, you pitch to the host. Tuesday, you write your sketches. You write the whole show. Tuesday night, we all go in, we write our sketches, we submit. We wake up Wednesday morning, go over the sketches again, make any changes, send those in. Those get. Once those are submitted, I think they get about, like, 50, probably around 50 sketches.

[Brian Green]

Geez.

[Rosebud Baker]

And then they. They go through them and they pick, like, 30. And we read 30 of those sketches at the table read on Wednesday. So everybody goes back in. Wednesday night, we do the table read, then we hang out. Like, all the. All the writers go upstairs and sort of wait. Like actors auditioning for a musical. Did he pick me?

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Did he pick me? My sketch?

[Rosebud Baker]

And then. And then the picks come out. And if your sketch gets picked, you go directly to design costumes, hair, and you talk to everybody about what you want, and they already have it all drawn up like it's crazy. And then Thursday is rewrite. We rewrite everything. We punch things up. Friday is blocking. Saturday is dress rehearsal. And show.

[Brian Green]

God damn. That's like. That's a hamster wheel I cannot imagine being on. And, like, I'm sure some people spend the night there. There was just like, you know, into the night, typing away. Have you ever had a long night? Have you ever. I'm sure that you've worked.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, definitely slept at work. I don't recommend it to people that. I mean, it's like. Like, I think everybody used to do it, and I think Covid just changed that a little bit.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Everybody decided there is something else besides work that we might have to get to. Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah. But still, people go home at like, 4 or 5 in the morning and then get up at like, 8 to go over their sketches and have them in by 10am it's like you get, like, two hours of sleep. It's crazy.

[Brian Green]

It's like having kids. Having 12 to 14 children really is. Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

I have to say, now that I actually have a kid, it's not harder than have it been having a job at snl. Yeah, it's the same.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. You get very little sleep. You're constantly thinking about the next thing in a million different directions. And you're in a fog most of your life. So, you know, I don't know. They said, have a kid. It'll change everything. It sure did.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah. Oh, go ahead.

[Rosebud Baker]

Sorry. No, no, I was just gonna say it's. You're also, like, too tired to form a new memory. Like, I don't think I've had a new memory.

[Brian Green]

You are so right about this. My brain is filled with all the kids stuff, so I'm having a hard time fitting anything else in. I read a book and I got to go back and read the pages the next night because I'm like, I don't even remember what the fuck I was reading last night.

[Rosebud Baker]

Exactly.

[Brian Green]

You tell the funniest. I read. I read this. I don't know. I don't know where I read it. One of these magazines that you did an interview for, you were talking about Travis Kelsey being on the show and how he was having trouble reading, so he was getting Patrick Mahomes to read lines back and forth. The way that I read the page in your voice in my head was, oh, my God. Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey are practicing reading together. And I thought that was too fucking funny.

[Rosebud Baker]

They were going over lines together in their dressing room, and I. And I thought it was so cute that I cried. And I was like, oh, I'm pregnant. Like, I knew it. You knew it at that moment. I was like, I don't. I don't cry in that building. I just told myself when I got the job, I was like, I'm not gonna cry in 30 Rock. It's not gonna. I won't give that building my tears. It's not gonna happen. And then suddenly, I. I hear Travis Kelsey practicing his lines with his, like, jock friends. And I was like, this is so cute. I'm. And I just, like, started tearing up. I was like, what is wrong with me?

[Brian Green]

Wow. I got emotional over Patrick Mahomes reading.

[Rosebud Baker]

To Travis Kelsey over something sweet too.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Well, I know you worked on Life and Beth, too, and I loved that show. Love, Amy Schumer. How was that? Did you work on a couple of episodes or how. What did that look like?

[Rosebud Baker]

It was great. So I did a couple of episodes the first season, and then we have the second season coming out in February, and my character was back. She's a real crazy lady.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I love that show.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, it's really fun. It was like, basically, Amy told me it was like, your character is this girl that is. She knows that I'm dating this guy, but she just does not. It doesn't matter to her. Yeah. She's so into this guy. It just doesn't matter. And in her mind, they are. You're dating him.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

Even though you know that I am. So you almost get mad at me. Like, it's. I. The way that I approached it is I was like, okay. I just. I'll. I'll think of them as sister wives. I'll think of us as like, I love that. If she upsets him, then it's. He's upsetting our marriage. Do you know what I mean?

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Rosebud Baker]

So that's, like, how I approached it, because I was like, it's tough to play a person who's essentially kind of crazy with compassion.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Right.

[Rosebud Baker]

You. You have to understand where they're coming from.

[Brian Green]

Sure.

[Rosebud Baker]

So I was like, this is kind of fun for me to just get back into acting and. And especially with a character that's so, like, crazy.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

You know, I get to, like. I get to challenge myself with that. So. Yeah. How fun.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I'm so excited. That comes back in February. Is that right? Yep.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

So it's already in the can. You guys are just waiting for it to be released. Yeah. You, Chrissy, and I have had this conversation multiple times. I'm sure we'll have it till the day that we stop doing the show. We're contractually obligated for 15 more years.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

But, you know, Talk about the hamster wheel.

[Brian Green]

You had a talk about hamster wheel. That's right.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Doing this four days a week. So you and your husband have a crazy story. You started a podcast. In three days into the podcast or three episodes into the podcast, he asked you to marry him. Did you stop the podcast because you were certain that podcast was going to cause a divorce? Because I have this conversation all the time.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah, no, I think we've actually. I really enjoyed podcasting with him. It was just like, I got the job at snl, and I was like, there's no way that. And. And the snl for a while we tried. We kept it going. And then I was like, this is. I can't do that.

[Brian Green]

It's untenable.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah, now throw the baby in there, too. So.

[Rosebud Baker]

Right. Yeah, Right.

[Brian Green]

And the baby's how many weeks old? Where's the oshkosh Bagash pictures? I wonder. See them and I want to see them now.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

13 weeks.

[Brian Green]

Back to SNL for one minute. And who have. What is this sketch that you never got on air that you really thought was going to hit? If it hit, like, what's the baby that hasn't been born yet, that you're just waiting for the right moment for Lauren or somebody to say, okay, green light. Or the guest or whoever.

[Rosebud Baker]

There's. Well, there's one that made it to dress that never made it to air. It was about a life coach that. Okay, so I have a friend who's constantly giving advice that I don't really need. It's more for them than for me. And so I. I wrote this sketch based on their advice, and it was like, Kiki Palmer plays a life coach that comes in, and she's doing, like, a new moon ceremony for her friends or whatever.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

We have some friends that.

[Brian Green]

We know these people. We know these people. We've been to new moon parties.

[Rosebud Baker]

All these girls are like, I've never been to one of these. What is this? And then she comes in and she's like, all right, listen up. She's like, all y', all, it's 2022. All y' all are gonna stop sleeping with homeless men. And everybody's like, we don't do that. And it just gets. She's like, wackier and wackier. Yeah. No, it just keeps. She just keeps hammering the fact that, like. Like that you. He's like, if he comes up to you talking all smooth, trying to sell you a painting, like, I don't care what he. You cannot buy that painting if he's covered in blood. That's a red flag. They're like, we know. Like, it's. It's basically that. And. And then at the end, like, her boyfriend, like, breaks into the apartment and he's homeless. Someone online, really silly. But that one didn't make it on. And then the other one was. It was about a guy who, like, everybody, it's. It's only made it to table, but it hasn't ever made it to dress. And it's like a guy that is. He's like a single guy that everybody. Because everybody looks up to. Like, single men. Like, men without families.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

And. And I. I just. I was like, I want to write a sketch about how they're, like, worshiped. But everything he's saying is deeply sad, you know?

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

Like, he's just like. He's like, I just. I'll go to Disney World by myself. They're like, why? He's like, lines are short, you know, and then. But everything is getting progressively sadder and he's like, you know, last week I was parachuting and I just thought, what if I didn't even pull the parachute? You know, I just. What if I just ended it all? So obviously this hasn't made it on to snl.

[Brian Green]

You go home to your family and wife. I'm going home to my pizza box and my pumpkin scented candle from Hobby Lobby.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yes. And I just thought, I'm like, women get hammered all the time for not having a kid or not having a family. And I'm like, I just wanted to do it to a man. Yeah. I love that a little bit.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah. But, yeah, that sketch may never see the light of day. We'll see.

[Brian Green]

I hope it does, because I think you're right about this. I think single men are kind of, like, looked at as kings of the world. Right. But, yeah, I be. Having been a single adult male in my 30s, I can tell you right now, it's not all it's cracked up. It's not all it's cracked up to be. I certainly miss some things about it.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Sure.

[Brian Green]

But I don't miss the empty pizza box with the pumpkin scented candle, which, by the way, smelled really good.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I did.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah. The combo of those is delicious.

[Brian Green]

If you put them together, which I may or may not have. I plead the fifth. Listen, when I was single 12 to 15, Bud Lights was not unusual for day. Now that I have children, I will never drink again. Because being a hungover parent, you're an asshole. Like, it's just the worst fucking thing in the world. I want you to tell us your, like, what is the darkest bit that you do? Like, the darkest, in your opinion? Like, the thing that. That just goes there. Like, it goes there and it's on the nose.

[Rosebud Baker]

I mean, it's hard to say. It's. It's hard to rank them. I. I have a bit that I. That I is in my current special, which is in the works, but it's not out yet. But it's about my miscarriage. So I. That was a bit that I was like. I think. And when I wrote it, I. It was way too soon. Like, I was like, this is too soon to be telling this joke, but it's the only way that I know how to, like, process what's going on.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

And I felt, like, weird going on stage and not talking about what had happened. So, Yeah, I think that was. That's probably the bit that I have that's, like, the darkest.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I think miscarriage is probably a dark subject anytime.

[Rosebud Baker]

You're probably the darkest one. But I, you know, I. I do this kind of stuff mostly because I think it's funny. You know, the benefit of it is, like, there's women. There's so many women that have experienced it, and they're like, thank you for, like, lightening it just a little bit.

[Brian Green]

Right.

[Rosebud Baker]

I can see that you want to tell and. And feel understood, because when you're like. At least when I'm on stage and I'm talking about it, if I get laughs, I feel understood. There's like a.

[Brian Green]

A connection. It's energetically. It's cathartic. Right. It's like, oh, okay, I'm. I went through this. It was horrible. But now I'm processing it into something positive, which is everybody's laughing, and now we're. We're kind of connected in that way.

[Rosebud Baker]

Exactly. And bad things happen all the time.

[Brian Green]

All the time.

[Rosebud Baker]

So why is it that we. Why do we talk. Why do we only want to talk about half of our experience? You know, it's like, why do we only want to talk about the good stuff? I think it's great to talk about the good stuff, but, you know, for me, I'm like, that leaves half my human experience completely unrecognized.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah, it's like Instagram. You just show that.

[Brian Green]

You just show the good stuff. That's it, Right?

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

You know, we do this show. We put out so much content. I mean, four days a week, we're putting out. I don't even. What is it, 6,000 episodes? Around or something like that. But we put this all out.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

But it feels like that.

[Brian Green]

I think we made the decision early, at least I did. I was like, listen, this is going to go on celluloid. It's never going away. So if we do one episode, we might as well do a thousand. And if we talk about 1000, we might as well talk about it all because it's the only way to connect and it's the only way to keep it cathartic for us in the room is if we share all the ugly and the good. It's mainly ugly, but, you know, we. There's some good stuff that happens to us too. But I agree with this sentiment is like, I feel like I'm purging it a little bit when I say it out loud. And even though I don't see the people in front of me, I feel like if it gets to somebody and it gives them a laugh in a similar situation, well, then they're. Some good has come of it. Right. It feels like therapy a little bit to get in the room and get on the microphone. I watched your Comedy Central special and as you're. You're getting geared up, you're warming up. Right. You're in the room your first five minutes, you can tell the crowd doesn't really. I think my sense of it was the crowd doesn't really know what to expect and you're. You're doing quite a high wire act there for. For a couple of minutes. But once you get them, they're there like they're right there with you and they're thinking, all of this is funny. Do you still find when you walk stage that you're still doing kind of that high wire act because people may not know what to expect.

[Rosebud Baker]

It maybe it's almost like it doesn't feel like it anymore. I think not because the material has gotten any. It's the material still of as substantial as it was. But it feels like to me, it feels like less and less risky.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

You know, to say what, you know, my first special, I was like, oh, like nobody really knows who I am. And that's kind of a benefit to me right now because there's, you know, once you put out your special, you kind of get an audience. And so I was like, if I'm not going to get this experience again, I want to, like, make the most of the fact that. But they don't know who I am. They don't know what to expect. And that's. And that feels dangerous. Yeah. And even though it's not. It feels dangerous. So I kind of. Since then, it just hasn't felt the same. I haven't felt the same kind of risk because people who come out to see me now know who I am, and they kind of know what to expect.

[Brian Green]

You know, they already have a good gauge of who you are going walking in the door.

[Rosebud Baker]

Right. Generally speaking, I get people who like dark humor, who have had. Who have been through some shit, and they. They come to hear jokes about it.

[Brian Green]

You know, those are your people. These are my people.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Exactly.

[Brian Green]

Have you ever.

[Rosebud Baker]

Trauma victim.

[Brian Green]

Early on, did you have anybody that just, like, poorly reacted to one of your jokes? I was sure when I was watching your special, I'm like, I wonder if she's had anybody that's just, like, stood up and been like, fuck you. That don't. And you know, that hurts me.

[Rosebud Baker]

Somebody at that special do it. I mean, there was somebody in the front row, like, arms crossed, looking so mad. And I said to him, I was like, are you having a good time? And he said, no. Yeah. And I was like, well, it's. It's staying in. I was like, I'm leaving it in. I could have cut that out. And I was like, I don't. I want to keep that. I just. It was such a comedy show moment, and I wanted my special to feel like you were at the show. And because I feel like there's so many specials that I watch that are they. There's a real benefit to this that it's. It. It feels like a finished product.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

But to me, I always miss the feeling of, like, what's. What's about to happen. Like.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

You know, what's. What happens if this doesn't go well?

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Rosebud Baker]

And that's the. That's what I love about a live show. And I wanted to feel. I wanted to keep those. Some of those moments in the special.

[Brian Green]

I think it's brilliantly done. You are so fudgeing funny. It's so. I don't know. I enjoyed it so much. I'm. I'm so. You're my favorite comic of 2023. We'll see if you make it to 2024. We're going to have a. We're gonna have a conversation here in the room after you leave behind your back, and we'll make that decision. I'll let you know. We'll send an email to my next show.

[Rosebud Baker]

Holding up a 2. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

2.2. Yeah. Are you going out on tour in 2024? Are you going to stay home with the.

[Rosebud Baker]

I am. I'm not touring. I'm not touring until the summer, but I am. I'm planning my next tour and we're like routing it right now. And I'm working on the new, the new material that's coming after this special. But to be honest with you, like, I shot an hour while I was pregnant and I'm shooting another 30. And I'm combining after I've, you know, a year after I've had the kid, and I'm combining the two into one.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Nice.

[Rosebud Baker]

That's. That's.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Come to Atlanta.

[Brian Green]

Come to Atlanta. We would love to see you. I think it's a good comedy town. I don't know. I mean, in.

[Rosebud Baker]

I plan to come, there is an Atlanta date on the books.

[Brian Green]

You tell us when that is because we will be front row. With your numbers. Yeah, with your numbers. And ready to heckle you when we feel our little feelings get hurt. Because that's also who we are. We're your people. I have, I have 30 questions to ask you. And as per usual, I got through one of them. So there you go. I will you come back on when you have a free moment. I know you're very busy, but when you have a free moment, if you come in, like when you go on tour and you're making your swings come. And all of our degenerate listeners can then hear what dates you have so that they can go see you also.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

And your special too, that's out right now. Definitely.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah. Is. There's a, there's five minute or. Sorry, it's ten minutes. It's a ten minute set that I have on Netflix Verified. Stand up. I shot it when I was, was 38, 36 weeks pregnant. I don't know. Whatever. I don't. Whatever. It's eight and a half months. I was eight months.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Don't worry with the weeks.

[Rosebud Baker]

And yeah, again, I have no idea how many weeks that is. And, and I, it was, was. I had a, I had a rough last like trimester. So it was really. It may be the most unhinged I've ever been on camera.

[Brian Green]

You got to go watch it. It's on, on Netflix. Thanks, Rosebud Baker. Once again proving that women are just better at stronger and tougher than any single man who runs the world do. That's right. And I'm so, and I'm so glad to buddy up to them. I know where my butt. I know where my bread is buttered. My mama didn't raise no fool, so.

[Rosebud Baker]

That's right.

[Brian Green]

Rosebud thank you so much for coming on. We really appreciate, we love you. Best to you. It was honestly a pleasure and we will talk to you soon. Thanks.

[Rosebud Baker]

My pleasure. I'll talk to you soon.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Okay, thank you.

[Brian Green]

Bye.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Bye.

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[Brian Green]

Rosebud is so hilarious.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

She's the best.

[Brian Green]

I can't believe she got a two month old kid and she's coming on the commercial break. If I had a two month old kid, I'd be hiding in my.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

The dad had the baby out. Yeah, I love how she too is like, I, you know, we asked how old the baby was and she's like two months. I don't even know how many weeks. I know you're supposed to know the weeks.

[Brian Green]

And I told her before, before we started the interview, I said to her, I said, when your first baby, you got to mark every, you know, week anniversary, you got to mark with another thousand dollar. All of free people dress because that's just a trendy thing to do. But don't worry if she decides to go there, if she has the third one or the second one, she'll quickly forget about that weekend. The second one becomes month anniversaries and then the third one, you do just years. You just do birthdays because you're like they're not going to remember. Take a cute picture on the month anniversary and just leave it there. You don't need to dress them up and put a post and oh my gosh, my baby turned this little bundle of joy. Two months old. Yeah, we get it. Kids grow up. That's what happens. We're all taking time. But she like, you know, again, I say this every interview that we've done. Like I have so much to ask people and I just don't feel like 45 minutes is enough time we're gonna have her back because I have so many more questions to ask.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

And she's gonna come to Atlanta. She's doing a tour next summer.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, next summer. And she's coming to Atlanta. So so far. We've got to see Veer.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

We've got to see Heather.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And we've got to see. We've got to see Rosebud. Yeah. And then I don't think Blair said she was not going to do. She was gonna.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

She was gonna take a little time.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And then Felicia is just going to come have coffee with us. We're going to go see some birds or something like that, aren't we? Yeah, yeah, we're going to go see the birds, see if we can pick one up.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I love dirt, too.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, she was really good. Yeah. We ended up 20, 23 on a high note. We had some guests and we've gotten some positive feedback. I know we said we would never do guests, but we were just hiding it from you. We were just preparing for the last 400.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Did not go in the notebook. So that means it happened.

[Brian Green]

That's right. Someone else actually is in charge of booking those guests. So that's why it's. That's why it's happening.

[Rosebud Baker]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Because we. We're not in charge of it.

[Brian Green]

Nope. By the way, I gotta say, because I think this will probably be the last interview we do this season. The one. The last one that we release. We might rerun the Stevo and possibly Rosebud. Whoever. Well, we might run an interview or two. But I do have to say thank you to Pam, who's the PR agent for a lot of these guests that.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Have come on, and she's just been wonderful to us.

[Brian Green]

So I won't say her last name so she doesn't get inundated with hate mail, but I'll just say that thank you to Pam. You know who you are, Pam. And thank you so much to Rose. But all the other guests that.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Pam, the agent.

[Brian Green]

Pam, the PR agent. Yeah. She's good at her job.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

She is.

[Brian Green]

Why? Because she decided to send them over here. Not Conan o'. Brien. Well, Conan o' Brien first, then the commercial break. That's what I'm noticing. I'm noticing a trend here.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

You know, I mean, we. We're right up in that echelon.

[Brian Green]

Save the best for last. That's all you got to do.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah. You start with Conan and then you move up.

[Brian Green]

Yes. And then you go back down and then you die. You go right to the middle of the pack.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

Yeah, you go. You go up on the ladder and then you dive off the diving.

[Brian Green]

That's right. You stop by Tom and Bert's show and then you into Our pool. That's right into the defense. And when I say save the best for last, I mean the last place you'll ever appear because your career is certainly going to take a shit. You did hear it here last, that's for sure. Listen, we hope everybody has a great, had a great Christmas, has a happy new Year, all of that good stuff. Thank you very much for all of your support in 2023. We hope you carry it on into 2024. We'd appreciate that and lots more fun and shenanigans to come up on season number five. It's crazy. We're in season number five.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

We should do an Instagram post with us. Like with the five.

[Brian Green]

We're holding the sign.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

The sign for Rosebud.

[Brian Green]

We give her a five. All right, if you want to follow up on all the shenanigans, all 60 weeks old. Yes. Five seasons old. I'm gonna go get a free people dress and we'll put me in it. Okay. If you want to catch up on all the shenanigans, you want to get all the links to Roads Rose Bud's pertinent information, I'll put a couple of links to certain specials that have been out there on the Tubes and Netflix. You can go to tcbpodcast.com More information about Chrissy and I. All the show notes where those links live to that specific episode. All the video, all the audio right there. One location, tcb podcast.com Also, your piggy fronting stickers are coming at you, I promise. I admitted the other day that I jumped the gun on the piggy fronting sticker. I know.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I was like, where is mine?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. See, Astro had just designed it and I said it out loud and I us because she hadn't actually said it.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

The gift that keeps on giving into.

[Brian Green]

The new year 2024. Expect your piggy fronting stickers. 626 ask TCB the number three. That's 626 stcb the number three. If you have a question for any of the past guests, let us know. And when they come in the future, we'll ask. Ask that question at the commercial break on Instagram, TCB podcast on tick tock and YouTube.com the commercial break. All right, Chrissy. I guess that's all I'll do for at least this episode.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

Okay, so I'll tell you that I love you.

[Kristen Joy Odley]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

I'll say best to you and best you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I always say we do say. And we must say goodbye, Sam. Sa.