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Brian Green
Buying a car in Carvana was so.
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Chrissy
Easy, I was able to finance it through them.
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Brian Green
I just.
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Joy Hoodley
Whoa, wait.
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Rachel
You mean finance?
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah, finance.
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Chrissy
Got pre qualified for a Carvana auto loan, entered my terms and shot from thousands of great car options, all within my budget.
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Joy Hoodley
That's cool.
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Chrissy
But financing through Carvana was so easy.
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Brian Green
Financed, done, and I get to pick up my car from their Carvana vending machine tomorrow.
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Chrissy
Financed, right?
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Joy Hoodley
That's what they said.
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Brian Green
You can spend time trying to pronounce.
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Joy Hoodley
Financing, or you can actually finance and.
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Brian Green
Buy your car today on Carvana financing, subject to credit approval. Additional terms and conditions may apply.
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Rachel
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Joy Hoodley
Brian got it wrong. Y Brian got it wrong. Yeah, Brian got it wrong. Yeah, Brian got it wrong again. On this episode of the commercial break. And in the middle of it, I'm trying to convince people that they need to sell this new thing called streaming, like the streaming radio station. Sell ads specifically for the online version of the radio station. And. But I had to go back to basics. Like, basics, like this is the Internet. And I go, you know, and I'm talking about the Internet and people are like talking back to me. I guess I'm getting heckled. Not heckled, but they're like having conversation, asking me questions in the middle of the presentation, which is screwing me up and making me even more nervous. But this old guy, he goes, the Internet. I like it. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Yeah, boy. Oh, yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Chris and Joy Hoodley. Best to you, Chrissy.
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Brian Green
Best to you, Brian.
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Joy Hoodley
Best to you out there in the podcast universe. How the hell are you? Thanks for joining us here in studio this week, but taking yet another week off, Chrissy, look at us. Vacation, it's just our midsummer vacation. Then we'll take our late summer vacation, then our early fall vacation, fall break, and then we'll work for 42 days straight when it comes to the holidays. I think we're doing this backwards.
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Brian Green
We are.
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Joy Hoodley
I think we need to probably work now and save the vacation days for later, but nope, we've never known. We've never been known to be so smart about things. That's unconventional. Is right. In so many different ways.
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Brian Green
Our finger right on the pulse, as we were just talking about.
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Joy Hoodley
Yes. Our finger right on the pulse. We were talking about our endless day and how much news it generated around the globe. And by around the globe, I mean anybody who downloaded our podcast on that particular day. And we were saying that, you know, we had some of our favorites. Tom Papa, Reggie Watts, Michael Ian Black, Tig Notaro showed up. And then we had Rachel, who wrote Mean Girl, not Mean Girls, my. My crazy ex girlfriend.
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Brian Green
Yes, yes.
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Joy Hoodley
And we had her on. And you know when I had to do, like, I had to make a decision about where to place the guests in the rotation, and I just did that, really, based on my own favoritism. I mean, there was like, I had no rhyme or reason to it. I'm just like, okay, we know Reggie and we know Tom, and we know that Tig is. Is a. Is a good interview. It's kind of. I don't know, it's kind of sad. So let's put that at the end when no one cares first. Let's put Rachel first. It wasn't. It was just a decision that was really made. Roll the dice, Right? Well, turns out she's the one making the most news out there in the world. She was just on the Tonight Show. I saw Jimmy Fallon. Is it Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Kimmel? I can't remember which one is out on vacation. So they have a bunch of guest hosts that are out there that they're doing that. They didn't call us for that. I was hoping I'd get the call.
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Brian Green
We didn't get that call.
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah, I figured after we interviewed their executive producer, that we certainly would get the title.
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Brian Green
We had an in.
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah. We would be right at the top of the list. But I Guess so did Rachel. There you go. I thought they were going to call us first.
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Brian Green
Yeah.
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Joy Hoodley
But no one calls us. I mean, you call us listener, you call us, but everyone very grateful, very grateful for all the fun.
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Brian Green
We were just trying to come up with some creative ideas for, you know.
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Joy Hoodley
Finding somebody else to listen to the show. And we thought, well, let's buy terrestrial radio spots. That sounds like it's going well over there. That's the house burns down. Let's help them arrange chairs on the Titanic. Yeah. Terrestrial radio is in a spot, that's for sure. And Odyssey is the company that represents us. It's our network. And we love them, by the way. They are fantastic. Everybody over there is just great. I mean, I think we've raved about them enough on the show. I don't want to blow any more smoke, but I blow smoke because we've had experiences otherwise.
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Brian Green
Right.
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Joy Hoodley
And so we realize how wonderful we have it over at Odyssey. But they are largely still a terrestrial radio company. They own hundreds, if not a thousand stations throughout the country, maybe out the. Throughout North America. And terrestrial radio. We were just talking about Chrissy's kids, step kids. They don't really listen to radio. They never listen to radio.
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Brian Green
Yeah. I mean, they're light teens, early 20s, and that's.
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Joy Hoodley
They don't talk about radio.
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Brian Green
No. They find their music way other places.
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah. As a radio lover, I don't listen to radio. I haven't in a long time. I mean, I listen to serious satellite radio, but besides that, it's few and far between that I have any reason to turn on radio. Maybe if there's, like a local news event.
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Brian Green
Well, I was going to say. Yeah. Local news, weather, sports.
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah, sports. That. Those are the. Yeah. I might listen to the Braves game on a radio station. That's true. I might do that a couple times a year. Maybe I'll listen to the UGA football game if it's a Falcons. Falcons. But otherwise, I don't turn on terrestrial radio. And my children music, certainly not music. And listen, this is no knock on the music stations because I know that a lot of people do listen to the music stations. It clearly is still a very viable business, but it's not. The viability is not as large as it used to be because radio used to be the only game in town. It was the way that you reached almost every person that was in a car, always at all times. When I was a kid, the only thing we did have was terrestrial radio. So every car ride, I mean, there was a tape Player in the car and then a CD player. But you largely listened to the radio, and that's how you heard the tape.
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Brian Green
Well, the reason you bought the tape or the CD was because of what Gerald.
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Joy Hoodley
On the radio. That's right. Or you saw it on mtv. Video Killed the Radio stars. The old. Is the very first video that ever played on mtv. Little trivia fact for you. The very first video that ever played on MTV when it came on air was Video Killed the Radio Star. It's a song. Video Killed the radio Star. And that's true. Right. But radio was a tastemaker. And it was. It certainly when I was growing up in the kind of the 90s alternative grunge era, it was a tastemaker. And we had a tastemaker radio station right here called 99X, which is one of the first stations in the country to play Nirvana. And that took off, obviously, like a. Like a rocket. And then pretty soon it was all alternative that you should.
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Brian Green
They just had to bring it back, too.
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Joy Hoodley
They have it back. It's back. Yeah, but it's on like the. The digital dial. Like it's. You know, now they have multiple bands of terrestrial radio, too. You have the regular FM station, you have HD1, HD2, HD3. So they found a way to kind of bring it into the 21st century. But is it. But are they just, like diluting more of the audience? I don't know. I don't know all the answers to that. I'm not. I'm not a radio person anymore.
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Brian Green
Not anymore.
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Joy Hoodley
Not anymore. But you want an interesting story, you should. There are, like, small documentaries, YouTube documentaries out there about the radio station 99X and how it came to be, how it came to life, the people behind it, the folks who really never wanted to see it happen, and the forces that were at work to try and stop it from happening to flipping over to what they were calling at that time alternative format, which was going to be taking the music that was hip in the early 90s in the underground scene, and putting it on radio. And they did. And 99x was a tastemaker. And what I mean by that is they played it and then it became popular all across the country. And then those radio stations started to flip one right after the other to become very much like 99X. And there were other stations, by the way, that were doing this also at the time, it wasn't just 99x, but over here in the south, where we were, that was it. And you listen to 99X all day, every day, because it Was fascinating to hear that new music coming out. The jocks were interesting. The. The people that were talking in between the music.
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Brian Green
The morning show artists on for interviews.
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Joy Hoodley
And they did acoustic sets in the studio. It was, it was like there was a lot of energy around it. But that changed sometime in the early 2000s when Napster and then Spotify and Apple music and itunes. When all that came along. It. Your need to have music being shoved down your throat by a radio station was no longer there. You could find it on your own YouTube.
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Brian Green
I mean, Justin Bieber got a. Yeah, plenty of people got their start on YouTube.
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Joy Hoodley
It all came on.
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Brian Green
Now it's TikTok too.
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Joy Hoodley
Now it's big. Huge. Huge. Yeah, yeah.
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Brian Green
For music.
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Joy Hoodley
Tick Tock, Instagram, you know, soundcloud, all these places that you're. You can find music everywhere and anywhere and to whatever suits your taste. And so the audiences get smaller. There will never be another Michael Jackson. There will probably never be another Nirvana in the sense that, like taking the world by storm. In that sense. Taylor Swift is probably one of the Taylor Swift, Beyonce, some of the last examples of super mega pop stars, because there are. The music industry is so fractured and diluted, but the fans you have are more hardcore and they have more immediate access to you and you can go directly to them without going through, you know, labels and MTV and radio stations and all this. But at the same time, that hurts the music radio there. There's not a huge need for it anymore. And so there are a lot of people that still listen to terrestrial radio, but the market share that they get is smaller and smaller, and the amount of time that's spent listening is smaller and smaller. And so we were talking about like, what's the future of that? And should we as people who really make bad investments, should we make the move over to terrestrial radio Right as it's seeing its zenith, right as it's setting itself on fire, should we go over there and set ourselves on fire? And the answer is yes, we should. I mean, we don't have an offer to do that, but if we had an offer to do that, we would do that. And I still like the idea of terrestrial radio being there. And it always will be there.
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Brian Green
The signal will always be there. So that's the thing. It's kind of like, what do you put on that signal?
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah, what do you put on that signal? And I think radio, like a lot of other businesses, like Hollywood is doing, you know, the Hollywood movie kind of megastructure is doing right now, is pulling itself Apart and restructuring to be a more smaller, nimble, flexible, kind of less mega structure. And I think radio has to do the same thing. I think it is doing the same thing. And that comes with unfortunate layoffs and, you know, downsizing and all that. But that's how industry works. And I'm not those who are affected by it. That's not a, that's not like a. I'm not, that's not a throwaway line because Chrissy and I went through it too. We went through it. Hardest day of my life. Hardest day of my life was when I came in on a Wednesday at Clear Channel. And Wednesday afternoon there was like a 5:30 meeting with everyone and the HR director and the financial controller and the president and the market sales president were sitting there telling all of the management, the nine of us or whatever it was, here's your files. Tomorrow morning. You must lay these people.
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Brian Green
Yeah, God, I know. I had just been with the, the station for, I don't know, three months. Yeah, two, three months, something like that. And there was like a mass layoff.
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Joy Hoodley
Yes.
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Brian Green
All these people that were the. Making tons of money in that sales department. Yeah. They got let go.
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Joy Hoodley
Hardest day of my life. I mean, maybe not the hardest day of my life, but one of the toughest days of my life because I, as a young guy who had no intention of, of having these conversations. I didn't want to have these conversations. I didn't want to have them. I asked if I could be one of those people. Like there was packages being given out and I was like, I'll take it. Like, if you want me to go, I'll go. I'd rather do that than have these conversations tomorrow morning. And that was. It's just, it's a terrible, it's terrible. And I understand now, looking back on it, that was absolutely necessary for the survival of the company because a hedge fund bought it and they needed to make money.
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Brian Green
Right. That's so true.
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Joy Hoodley
It's so true.
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Brian Green
That's exactly what happened.
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Joy Hoodley
That's exactly what happened.
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Brian Green
Bane.
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Joy Hoodley
Bane Capital. The bane of our existence. Bane Capital.
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Brian Green
I remember at the time thinking, oh my gosh, I'm so glad I didn't lose my job. And then like a few minutes later I was like, damn, yeah, damn, I.
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Joy Hoodley
Didn'T lose my job. Yeah. Honestly, it came clear real quick that, I mean, people were getting like, I had like four, four positions after that. I was like doing four different positions after that, none of which I was qualified for. It was, it was, that was, that was a tough Tough time. But terrestrial radio will find. It will shake itself loose and it will find a way those signals will always be there. And maybe it's just a smaller version, but they. The content has got to follow along with it. How that changes, I don't know. I'm not. Like I said, I don't get paid the big bucks to think about that. But you could pay me the big bucks to think about that if it could be maybe the big bucks for any reason and I'd be happy to do that job.
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Brian Green
Well, yeah, I mean, it's one of the. I'm thinking about, like, when I get into my car, it immediately connects to CarPlay and connects to what I was listening to.
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Joy Hoodley
That's it.
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Brian Green
Yeah, yeah. On Spotify podcasts.
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah, yeah. That's all I listen to anymore. Our podcast and sometimes Sirius radio. Yeah, I mean, there, There does come, like, if we take a long road trip, sometimes I'll tune into the local radio station just to hear what's going on. But, you know, it's. It's whatever. I mean, we go out to the pool or we go on a car ride, whatever. Put on a playlist. That's what we do.
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Brian Green
Just follows too, then. Yeah, like if you said you're at the pool, you're in your car, you're at home, whatever it is.
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Joy Hoodley
Well, listen, you know, things are changing. I hear. I hear that the kids are all online these days and, you know, people don't have to deal with the Internet.
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Brian Green
I like it.
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Joy Hoodley
What's that? Radio? What's that?
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Brian Green
Didn't you have a salesperson that said that? The Internet. I like it. In a sales meeting.
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Joy Hoodley
We had this old guy, this old guy. I mean, he was old. God bless his little soul, he was old. And day number four of my employment, day number two of my employment, I get a phone call from the big muckety muck. Up in the muckety muck place.
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Brian Green
Up in the tower?
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah, up in the tower. And there was like four of us in the company that were, like, leading this Internet initiative in different regions. And I get this phone call from her and she sends me a PowerPoint presentation and she's like, okay, I need you to give this to all staff. And I'm like, give this to all staff. What do you mean you're going to have a meeting and the bigger muckety muck, the guy above me is going to come into town, he's going to fly in, he's going to meet you, and then you're going to give it an all staff meeting. The whole staff, like 112 of you are going to be sitting in front of you and you're going to give this presentation. I need you to add a couple slides, talk about yourself, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Get people excited about the Internet. Get, get him going. This is honestly the first time I had been in front of anybody more than three people giving any kind of presentation.
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Brian Green
Yeah.
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Joy Hoodley
And I was sweating bullets for two days. I didn't sleep, probably because of the cocaine, but maybe because of the presentation. And I, I. It's one of those formative moments you won't forget. I walk in, there's all these people standing in this big.
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Brian Green
Sink or swim.
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah, Sink or swim. Conference room.
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Brian Green
Throw you in the middle of the lake.
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah. I'm sure that I just have like huge armpit stains and swe Profusely.
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Brian Green
You did used to wear the long sleeve button down.
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Joy Hoodley
I had to, I felt like I had to. Yeah. Like it was kind of an office type job. You were a manager, you had to be a manager type. And so there I am giving this 28 page presentation and in the middle of it, I'm trying to convince people that they need to sell this new thing called streaming. Like the streaming radio station. Sell ads specifically for the online version of the radio station. And, and, but I had to go back to basics. Like basics, like this is the Internet. And I go, you know, and I'm talking about the Internet and people are like talking back to me. I guess I'm getting heckled. Not heckled, but they're like having conversation, asking me questions in the middle of the presentation, which is screwing me up and making me even more nervous. But this old guy, he goes, the Internet, I like it. And I was like, okay, good. I guess we're all on the same page. You don't know how many older salespeople came to me afterwards and in some form or fashion, some version or another, told me that over the last six months they've been trying to get us to do this and it's just going to go away. Like a lot of other initiatives, it's just going to go away. Well, well, how did that work out for you? I mean, but I can see it. I can understand. I also railed against Chat GPT and came until it became the thing that I, the person that I talk to the most.
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Brian Green
You did?
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Joy Hoodley
I mean, I still rail against ChatGPT. I don't have to like it, but I'm not going to let it pass me by.
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Brian Green
You know what I'M saying, well, we were too. They did have a lot of different initiatives. I'm putting those in airplanes.
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Joy Hoodley
Oh my God.
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Brian Green
Did they to where it was. Focus on this now.
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Joy Hoodley
Focus on that now.
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Brian Green
Focus over here. Look over there.
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Joy Hoodley
Sorry, cat with a laser pointer. Bing over here. Bing over there.
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Brian Green
And quite a lot of those did go, by the way.
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Joy Hoodley
So all of them went by the wayside except for streaming. That's the only thing that stuck around. That's right. It was. It was really cat and mouse. But it's a sales. It's a sales organization. You are literally making money out of air. If you can have the equipment, put a stick up on a building, you can make money out of air. All you got to do is convince other people that you can reach other people with their advertisement and you just pull it out of thin air. But as the market president at the time said to me, he said the bad thing about radio spots is they go bad. They're like bananas. They go bad and you can't eat them. So once, once they're. Once they're unripe that you just never get that money back. It's always lost. So there's always this chasing to like, sell this time, sell this time, sell this time. And they came up with a million different ways to try and get salespeople to sell that time. And it was always a different initiative. It's the, you know, the market. 40, we're gonna top 40 salespeople, you know, who's the best and who's the wor? How many phone calls do you make today and how many people did you see? And it just was like super.
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Brian Green
No wonder we were alcoholics while we were there.
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Joy Hoodley
There's only one way to survive that, at least that moment in radio. The only way to survive the pressure, heavy alcohol and drug use. That's it. That's what everyone else was doing, including some of the people on air for the worst.
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Brian Green
Oh, God, those people were partying.
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Joy Hoodley
Talk about that smorgasbord of fuck up in this. I mean, the people on air, you thought the salespeople were bad. Check out the people on air. They were really a mess. I mean, yeah, I don't want to get into anybody else's dirty laundry, but there was. There's a lot of it to put out on the line.
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Brian Green
Well, plus, plus there was the environment of having, you know, strip clubs and alcohol and music and, you know, you were going at you as part of your job, if that was your account, you had to go to these events and I mean, those things could, you know, you're boozing it up.
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah, you could wreck. You. Yeah, you have Budweiser as a client and the Cheetah, the local strip club, and, you know, the boner pills and like, it's just everything, like kind of mixed together. Of course you, of course, Braves games, it's all just a recipe for disaster. But it was a lot of fun, I'll tell you that. It was a lot of fun when you were out of the office, if you could be out of the office, everything was great when you were in the office. It was a high pressure cooker, like a, like a pressure cooker type situation where everybody was just barking down and.
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Brian Green
Coffee for closers.
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Joy Hoodley
Coffee is for closers, that's for sure. In this case, cocaine is for closers.
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Brian Green
You're going to need.
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Joy Hoodley
You're going to need it. Yeah, coffee should be for not the closers. It should be for the people who aren't closing. That's what it should be for. I just found that to be a dumb saying. Copies for closers. You know, who needs the coffee, you know, who needs the cocaine? The people who aren't closing anything. Maybe they get a little pep in their step, little personality. All right, let's take. Now that. Now that we've. Now that anybody under 30 years old has turned us off, let's take a break. We'll be back with lots more fun from 1922. You make this rather snappy, won't you? I have some very heavy thinking to do before 10 o'. Clock.
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Chrissy
Hi, cats and kittens. Rachel here. Do you ever get the urge, courage to speak endlessly into the void like Brian? Well, I've got just the place for you to do that. 212-4333. TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Feel free to call and yell all you want. Tell Brian I need a raise. Compliment Chrissy's innate ability to put up with all his shenanigans or tell us a little story. The juicier the better. By the way, we'd love to hear your voice because Lord knows we're done listening to ourselves. Also, give us a follow on your favorite socials. Hecommercial break on Insta, TCB, podcast on TikTok. And for those of you who like to watch. Oh, that came out wrong. We put all the episodes out on video, YouTube.com thecommercialbreak and tcbpodcast.com for all the info on the show, your free sticker, or just to See how pretty we look? Okay, I gotta go now. I've got a date with my dog. No, seriously. Axel needs food. Today is pork chop day.
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Joy Hoodley
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Chrissy
What does possibility mean to you?
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Joy Hoodley
That's a hard question. Something that you can strive for.
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Brian Green
I'm able to do anything I set my mind to.
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Joy Hoodley
You're confident in yourself and you believe in yourself.
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Brian Green
Stuff that you could achieve. I feel Etsyra at evening is possible when you're more confident.
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Joy Hoodley
Shoes are a huge part of that. They are the most important part of my style. You can, like, express yourself in the right shoes. Anything is possible.
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Chrissy
Dsw countless shoes at bragworthy prices.
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Joy Hoodley
Imagine the possibilities. Yeah, it's really strange. I mean, it's not strange. It's sad is what it is. So we're talking about the Beyonce concert. She's doing four nights here.
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Brian Green
Yeah, she just completed four nights.
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Joy Hoodley
Okay. She just completed four nights here in Atlanta. And a series of unfortunate events happened. Number one detrimental to Beyonce herself was that two of her assistants or people in her entourage got their car broken into. And what was stolen was personal effects from Beyonce up to and including unreleased music. Why you're keeping new music well in a car underneath downtown in state farm arena, I have no idea. That's not a smart move.
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Brian Green
Now they're, like, off Krog street.
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Joy Hoodley
They were off Krog street. What are they doing? That is dumb. I mean, that is dumb. Listen, Atlanta has its problems like every other major city does. And if you know the city well enough, you navigate like, you navigate. You know, there's crime everywhere, but you.
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Brian Green
Just don't leave the stuff in your car.
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Joy Hoodley
You just don't leave the stuff in your car. That's the number one rule in Atlanta.
- [28:27]
Brian Green
Signs posted everywhere.
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Joy Hoodley
Everywhere. Every other major city. As a matter of fact, when I live downtown near Piedmont park, which is one of the nicer neighborhoods in this town, when we moved in there, a guy who had been living there for a while explained to me, don't leave your car locked.
- [28:43]
Brian Green
Yeah, just leave it unlocked.
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Joy Hoodley
Just leave it unlocked and don't leave anything in the car. And you know what? I learned my lesson about two weeks later when my passenger side window was smashed in and my whole shit was ruffled through. So I would always leave my car unlocked with nothing in it. And you know what? On multiple occasions, my glove box would be open. My. You know, the console would be open. So I know people were rummaging through it. When I lived in east Atlanta, I would leave my car unlocked with nothing in it. Multiple times I'd come in, the stuff in the glove box was on the floor. It's just the way that it was. People are looking for a quick hit. They're looking for a couple bucks that you leave in the ashtray. Whatever. I mean, ashtray. Like cars have ashtrays anymore. Whatever. You know, saying. You get what I'm saying? Back when my Cadillac had ashtrays in 1977. But Beyonce had her music stolen. This hearkens back to a time when Jeff Ament from Pearl Jam was recording here. This is like 10 years ago. And he was held at gunpoint and had Pearl Jam his. His. Like for the new album. His Pearl Jam tracks were stolen out of a backpack that he was carrying out of a studio in downtown Atlanta. Then secondarily. Now I'm just reading about this. I'll read the story to you.
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Brian Green
Yeah. There was a stampede after her last show byline.
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Joy Hoodley
Beyonce fans hospitalized from stampede after the Cowboy Carter show here in Atlanta. Multiple Beyonce fans were injured when a screaming train passenger sparked a stampede after Queen Bey's latest show in Atlanta. Terrifying video from the scene shows people being led into ambulances on stretchers or in wheelchairs, some of them still wearing cowboy hats. After the stars car Cowboy Carter show. As fans streamed out of the show into the nearby Vine City MARTA station, a passenger started screaming and running, triggering a stampede on the escalator that caused the escalator to speed up. What? How did the esc. What?
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Brian Green
I don't know. Speed up, then stopped or something, I guess.
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Joy Hoodley
I'm not sure. Before it suddenly stopped, leaving fans smashed together with multiple passengers falling on top of each other. One person suffered a broken ankle and seven others were taken to hospitals with cuts and scrapes. Officials have not says what say. Have not yet said what caused the escalator malfunction as fans said they'd left the stadium just after midnight following the final show.
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Brian Green
So that's great for Atlanta.
- [30:55]
Joy Hoodley
Yeah, that's great for Atlanta.
- [30:56]
Brian Green
Come on down.
- [30:57]
Joy Hoodley
Yeah.
- [30:58]
Brian Green
To the World Cup.
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Joy Hoodley
Feel free. We're going to be here with ICE agents hanging out, waiting for you, I guess. I don't know what the fuck. Yeah, listen, we're really excited. We want to see if we can go to one of these World cup games. This can be fun, but there's a lot of drama that happens around these big events, and it makes me nervous every time. Like when we went to Pearl Jam. What was happening right next door? What was happening right next door?
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Brian Green
It was the. Who else was the big show that was next door.
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Joy Hoodley
Who is the big show?
- [31:29]
Brian Green
It was a huge show that was next door. It was.
- [31:34]
Joy Hoodley
Now I can't remember. Oh, Kendrick Lamar is what it was.
- [31:37]
Brian Green
Yes.
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Joy Hoodley
Kendrick Lamar and Pearl Jam right next door to each other. Same night, same Time, same, everything. And we were. I always get a little concerned when there's huge crowds like that because I just don't like being in a huge group of people, like, sitting in a stadium. Okay, I'm okay with that. I have a seat. And, you know, it's spaced out and all that, but when, like, mass amounts of people get together in a big group, I just don't like it because that's what happens. One idiot can trigger a whole bunch of idiots to do another thing. It's called group think. And it happens all the time. It happens to Chrissy. And I hear the show and there's just two of us, and all of a sudden we start thinking we're putting a comedy show together and the rest of you are tuning us out anyway. Sad, because, you know, Beyonce, that's a. That's. It's tearing it up right now, and she's gonna. She's gonna be left with bad memories. As a matter of fact, Pearl Jam didn't come back from. To Atlanta for a long time because of that situation with Jeff Amit. I was at an Eddie Vedder show, like, just him, solo, a couple years after that whole event happened, and Eddie said, I'm going to take a message back to Jeff and let him know that, you know, I had a good time tonight.
- [32:44]
Brian Green
Everything was good.
- [32:45]
Joy Hoodley
Hopefully we can convince him to come back.
- [32:46]
Brian Green
I have to say, like, on the whole, for the majority of the time, everything's fine and great, but, yeah, there's.
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Joy Hoodley
Atlanta's a cool place, man. We've said it a million times. Atlanta is a cool place. We. There is a vibe in the city that is creative and industrious and energetic. Diverse, diverse. Very diverse. It's very young. There's a lot of young people that live here, and there's people moving in every year, like, it gets bigger and bigger. And largely, we have avoided, you know, besides the Olympic park bombing and a few other things, we've largely avoided a lot of the drama that some other big cities have seen. So it's unfortunate to see that. That happen. I hope everybody's okay. That's got to be scary.
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Brian Green
Oh, yeah.
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Joy Hoodley
When you're at a. You know, just in a crowd like that and all of a sudden something starts happening, what do you do?
- [33:34]
Brian Green
Well, right. God, that's like the Travis Scott thing with the Astro World.
- [33:38]
Joy Hoodley
There's a new documentary, and I want to watch it.
- [33:40]
Brian Green
Yeah, Yeah. I haven't watched it yet either, but I kind of have shied away from it. I'm like, I don't know if I want to relive that.
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah, I don't know. That was when that happened. That's scary. That was scary to me because just the thought of being crushed under the weight of other people is kind of a nightmare in general. You feel so bad for those people who just went to go see Travis Scott and the ill planning on everybody's behalf and then Travis himself failing to recognize and no charges were ever filed. So, you know, the guy is innocent of any criminal wrongdoing, I guess in the law's eyes. But you know, it just seemed like he failed to recognize that people were really in trouble and, and he wanted to get people hype on another. Like he wanted to take it to another level energetically when people were dying and, and that's unfortunate. And I don't know, you know, I guess I think we'll never know exactly who was saying what into his ear. But you know, this reminds me of a time when it was a fourth of July and me and Raphael and Chelsea, the girl I was dating at the time, and I think one of their kids decide on going to Centennial Olympic park to go see the fireworks. And so we get down there and it's probably 8 o', clock, you know, like sun's going down, it's getting a little dusk outside and it's very crowded, I mean extremely crowded down there. But we managed to kind of wiggle our way into a spot that's kind of behind some trees. Almost like we're sitting next to some trees and we're just sitting there in this little three foot circle and there's a ton of people around us. And then we start hearing what sound like gunshots and people start going crazy. I mean people are scattering everywhere.
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Brian Green
Yeah.
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Joy Hoodley
And we kind of duck down because we didn't know what was happening either. It sounded like gunshots, but to me, as a guy who's not at that time hadn't heard a lot of actual gunshots. It sounded a little thin to be a gunshot, but I didn't know. So I ducked down like everybody else did. But I wasn't going to run because I figured running was just going to cause more of a problem at that point. But people were running and then we saw a group of kids that were just like circling the park. And I'm Talking like a hundred, 150 kids running crazy, circling the park in this big pack, just circling, circling, circling. And they were running around, they were throwing fireworks. And then when we decided to leave, we're like, okay, we're out of here. Right? This is getting a little crazy.
- [36:02]
Brian Green
Let's go.
- [36:02]
Joy Hoodley
Yeah. Because every time they were throwing fireworks, people were going crazy and running away. They thought it was some people thought I assume was gunshots. So we're like, okay, bail, you know, let's get out of here. Let's go back to the car. And as we're walking out of the Centennial Olympic park, this group starts running toward us. And so we kind of shove off to the side of the walking path. And we're not going to get caught up in this. And there is a lady with a baby carrier. And one of the fireworks lands in the baby carrier with the child in it.
- [36:32]
Chrissy
Oh, my God.
- [36:33]
Joy Hoodley
If the guy who was standing next to her had not had the quick thinking and quick hands to grab the firework and throw it out, it would have exploded in the baby carrier with the child in it. Was the scariest thing I've ever. It's one of the scariest things I've ever seen in my entire life. It was like, holy shit. Really? Yeah. Dumb dumbs. And I mean, listen, young kids do. Young kids stupid shit. Young kids blow off fireworks and cause ruckus. And I was one of those kids too, you know, I. Look at me. Do I look like the kind of guy who wouldn't do something stupid, but I wouldn't be throwing fireworks around children. It just was seemed like a really dumb fucking thing to do. Anyway, so no more fireworks at Centennial Olympic park was my decision.
- [37:10]
Brian Green
Yeah.
- [37:10]
Joy Hoodley
I said, hey, if I can't see him from the house and I'm not interested, I just am not interested. Let me be away from the big crowds. And especially in 2025. Let me be away from the big crowds. Thank you very much. I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad time, bae. If you want to come on the show and have a small discussion about it, Chrissy and I can ease your mind about those in Atlanta. Look at us. Do we look like the kind that would cause trouble? No. We barely get out of this studio. We aren't even allowed out of our houses anymore. We live in like a retirement kind of situation here in this studio. So don't worry. Bae. And I hear your concert was great. I read some reviews. People said it was fantastic flying that car all around and being on the horse and doing the thing. It's a big production. It's a big production. Is it? Will it? Can it top the Taylor Swift dollar amount? I don't know. We'll see. Taylor can. First of all, can we all not pay $20,000 to go see Taylor Swift next time. Because as my wife was pointing out to me the other day as we were at the pool and two of my daughters were doing a dance show at the end of the pool. And I mean, some of the dance moves they had, I was like, where did they learn that? And their grandma's here from Venezuela. And she was like, hi, Brian. They like to look at me like the girls do some sophisticated dance move, if you know what I mean. And grandma looks at me and she gives me that smile and she's like. Like she knows that I'm in trouble.
- [38:39]
Brian Green
And then she gives them a Bible.
- [38:40]
Joy Hoodley
Yeah, she gives them a Bible, takes them to church. That's what she did. No, they encourage it. The girls encourage it. They're like, oh, that looks great. Do that again. And I'm like, I just put my head down. I don't want to encourage it. But at the same time, what am I, you know, what do I do? But Astrid goes, you realize the next time Taylor Swift comes into town or Shakira or whoever that you're. You better save your dollars because we're going to need to take these girls to the show. And I'm like, fuck that. If. If it costs anything close to what it cost last time, there's no way I'd have to start saving now for Taylor Swift's 2036 concert tour.
- [39:15]
Brian Green
Yeah, there's no money in a Taylor fund.
- [39:18]
Joy Hoodley
A Taylor Fund, Taylor. How about a Brian fund? How about food? Let's start there. Let's get some food done. Oh.
- [39:32]
Brian Green
Did you me let. Let them listen to the song.
- [39:35]
Joy Hoodley
Oh, yeah. I sent it to my father. He asked for it. I sent it to him. So now he's just walking around the house every time going.
- [39:45]
Brian Green
I love it.
- [39:46]
Joy Hoodley
I don't know what I was doing the other day. There was something. I was doing something and he. And it was clearly I was doing it wrong. And he goes, I stupido, stupid.
- [40:00]
Brian Green
I love it every time they come.
- [40:02]
Joy Hoodley
It is. It is pretty funny, actually. I've started to just enjoy it at this point, I'm just enjoying all the mockery. Yeah, I'm the gringo in the family. I'm never not going to be the gringo in the family. Even my kids have a Morris, a better steak and a true, like, you know, Venezuelan as a true Venezuelan than I ever will. At least my kids. One of my kids is like, has that beautiful Venezuelan skin. It's like as soon as the sun hits it, he turns golden brown. And I'm like, oh, my God, dude. Dude, I wish I, I spend a lot of money to try and get that look and you just step outside and you turn a different color. It's crazy. It's lovely. I love it. I think I go, dude, you got the best skin in the world. Don't have yet. You get. The girls are going to go crazy. They're going to go crazy over this. Or the boys. I don't know who knows what. Knows what happens. But here's what I wanted to say about, you know, a little fund for, for Taylor Swift. Very exciting. That merch for the commercial break is soon going to be dropped. And Chrissy and I have had a little look, look, see at what's going on with that merch. And that merch is fantastic. It really looks great. High quality. We picked a really great team to work with Odyssey, our network is working with them also. We're all working together on this merch drop. And that merge drop is going to happen. Looks like in August, in early August, it's going to be a limited merch drop as. As a lot of people do these days. That keeps. There's a lot of different reasons. I'm not going into all of them. We'll talk about it more. But that limited merch shop look like it'll be like a two, two and a half week window. You'll be able to buy these few items. Then you'll have to wait the next couple months for the next merch drop. So save your tail, get your tailor fund, break that Taylor piggy bank open and get ready to buy some merch from the commercial break. And if we can, we're trying to. It looks like we'll be able to put a limited edition sticker inside of every purchase that you'll only get if you purchase the merch. So that's our radio. That's our like, you know, stunty radio sales days way of trying to get you to buy our merch is getting that limited edition sticker, get you on the top 40 sales board, the Internet. I like it, I like it, I like it. It's sticking around.
- [42:06]
Brian Green
Yeah. No, it is great merch. I'm excited. I'm excited.
- [42:09]
Joy Hoodley
It's really great. They're sending us some pieces so we can take some photographs and put them on the socials and stuff like that. I can't wait. Send it. You can't get here quick enough. I love it. The hats are great. The sweaters are great. The shirts are great. And then the thought is if you Respond well to this. You, the audience, if you respond well to this, that this company, Odyssey and the commercial break could put together a again, limited time merge drop for the 12 days of tcb. Introducing a new piece every day of the 12 days of tcb. And that sounds fantastic to me. I love that idea. So this is kind of like the run up to that. We're going to test the waters, see what happens. We're going to need at least one of you to buy something. So please buy something. Could one of you buy something? Could one of the two of you buy something? And that way we can have a shot at the 12 days of TCB, which, I might remind you, is just a short four and a half months away, just right around the corner. I just feel like we got done with it and now I got to prepare for it. We might want to start recording those episodes now.
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Brian Green
Yeah, I think we might.
- [43:10]
Joy Hoodley
That way we don't work every day of the holiday. Yeah, Christmas in July. But, you know, the way time goes these days, the older I get, the construct of time just flattens. It's crazy how quick time goes. All right, let's do this. Let's take a break. And we'll be back with so much more fun. You won't even believe how much fun we're gonna have in this last segment. I just.
- [43:28]
Brian Green
Yay.
- [43:28]
Joy Hoodley
I don't know what I'm gonna talk about, but I'm gonna think about it on the break and then, okay.
- [43:37]
Brian Green
Why.
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Chrissy
Don'T you text us and we can text back and then you can text us in reply then so on. It's a fun little game I've been playing and I think you'll be great at it. 212-4333. TCB. That's 212-433-3822. You could leave a message too. If you do, maybe you'll end up being the voice of the show. But be warned, the pay is not great. You could go to the website and drop us an email. Also tcbpodcast.com and while you're there, you can get a free sticker. Who doesn't want a free sticker sticker? Just go to the contact us button and ask for one. Follow us on Insta at the commercial break and watch the episodes@YouTube.com thecommercial break. Now I'm gonna go back to that texting game you wanna play. Come on. Bye.
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- [46:15]
Joy Hoodley
That's Pork Chop Day.
- [46:17]
Brian Green
Pork Chop.
- [46:19]
Joy Hoodley
Day every day of the week.
- [46:20]
Brian Green
I know.
- [46:23]
Joy Hoodley
I just don't want to bother Rachel, but I'm gonna start bothering her. You know, she got a lot to do. She's like, we're the least pressing things she's got on her plate. I'm gonna bother her though. We gotta, we gotta get some new liners gotta happen. I'm sorry about Pork Chop Day being every day of the week, but. But you know, we're blessed to have Rachel on board, so leave it at that. You know, if we failed to talk about all the big stuff that's going on in Atlanta we failed to talk about because we probably don't give much of a shit, but we failed to talk about the fact that MLB All Star Week is here this week. It's going on right now as we speak with the All Star festivities happening I think over the weekend, including the Home Run Derby and all that other good stuff that comes along with it. But more interesting than that is watching. I have an app where I can watch the planes going in and out of the airports. Oh, yeah, like a live traffic app where you can track planes and stuff like that. I've been tracking all the big planes coming into really, what they call Peachtree DeKalb, which is like the BDK, the executive airport, I guess. It's the right outside of Atlanta. It's inside the city limits, but it's right outside.
- [47:21]
Brian Green
Private plane.
- [47:22]
Joy Hoodley
It is Private plane. Airport. And when you drive by that airport, sometimes you will see not small private planes, like seven 37s, like the. The nicest planes you've ever seen in your entire life, just sitting there, parked right next to the street. You can almost drive under the wing. So I was watching.
- [47:40]
Brian Green
You could also go out to the bar that's out there.
- [47:42]
Joy Hoodley
I love that bar. I love it. Well, there's two. There's. There's the bar that's actually inside of the airport building, and that is on the property. Then right off the property IS Fighter Squadron 57, I think is what they call. And that is a restaurant. Now, when we were going to move to Atlanta, there was two places that my dad could move for a job. He got two job offers when we were kids. One was Spencer, Iowa. Ever heard of it? Either have I. Okay. It's a tiny little town in Iowa, and they had a company there, I guess my dad was going to go work for. We went there and there was nada. No one took us around. Nothing. My dad and my mom drove us around for a couple of days, and I think we went to the ymca. It's where I first saw a man's penis. Luckily, it wasn't on me or in me or around me. It was just there. Standing there at the ymca? Yes. And I found that to be strange and scary at the same time to see an old wrinkly dick. But anyway, that's besides the point. We did not move to Spencer, Iowa. We came down to Atlanta when we were going to move here. We came down for a couple of days, and the owners of the company that my dad was going to go work for took us around and showed us some of the spots. Where did we go? We went to Dante's Down Under.
- [48:58]
Brian Green
Oh, Dante's down the hatch.
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Joy Hoodley
Dante's down the hatch.
- [49:00]
Brian Green
Yep.
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Joy Hoodley
And Dante's down the hatch. And Dante's Down Under. They had two. Two? Two?
- [49:05]
Brian Green
Yeah. That was at the Underground.
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Joy Hoodley
And then so we went down Dante's down the house, the one in Lennox. And then we also went to Fellini's Pizza, which I thought was very great. I believe there was. I think maybe the vortex was one of. We go to the vortex. Maybe we went to the vortex. And then we also also went to Fighter squad, fighter squadron 57, or what are that? 57 fighter squadron, whatever it is. It's a restaurant that sits right at the end of the Runway at pdk. And they serve, at the time they served relatively fine dining food. It's a dark restaurant, old woods and, you know, whatever. You could go there and you could sit and if you got a window so you got any seat in the house. They had headphones on the table, under the table, and you pulled them up and you put them on and you could listen to the air traffic controllers.
- [49:55]
Brian Green
Yeah.
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Joy Hoodley
Talking and directing the traffic in and out of the airport, which at that time was very small. One Runway. Maybe there was a couple planes an hour that took off. Now there's like a couple planes a minute to take off from that place. It's all, you know, the neighborhood hates it, but whatever. Anyway, now they have these huge private planes that fly in there and they land and da, da, da, da. So I was watching, you know, I'm looking at all the planes flying into PDK yesterday.
- [50:21]
Brian Green
Well, I wanted to say quickly, though, about that is that I recently went to there. Well, not recently, maybe like a day last year. And I thought, I'll go have a glass of wine there and wait for Jeff. He was coming in on a plane and I went there. I think it's no longer a fine dining restaurant.
- [50:41]
Joy Hoodley
Restaurant. No, it's not.
- [50:43]
Brian Green
About 6 o', clock, 7 o'. Clock. It turned into the strangest scene I've ever seen.
- [50:48]
Joy Hoodley
Like a ruckus.
- [50:49]
Brian Green
Drunk, like. No. Like there were people out there doing, like, special dances, like line dancing kind of stuff, but no country was playing. It was a very strange scene. A guy asked me to dance, said no.
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Joy Hoodley
All right.
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Brian Green
It was a whole different scene than what I remembered it from years ago when I had been for, like, you know, getting a bite to eat and watching the planes.
- [51:11]
Joy Hoodley
It was Music Midtown weekend in 2017. Astrid had just moved here. We were engaged. And when Music Midtown was still. Oh, no, it was Shaky Knees is what it was. Shaky Knees Weekend, when they used to do it back in the early spring. And I, as a romantic gesture, decide, I'm going to get Astrid a plane ride in the biplane.
- [51:36]
Brian Green
Oh, yeah, yeah, you can get those over Atlanta.
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Joy Hoodley
One guy sits in the front, and then there's another seat in the Back and it's opened and it's got the two wings, you know, one on top, one on bottom. You know, the old style Red Baron type plan. And they had a deal like brunch at the 57 Fighter Squadron. Then they literally parked the plane in the grass out back. And you hop in and then they zoom over to the airport, they roll over to the airport, they get on the Runway and then you go. That plane was made of aluminum foil and it had a hole in the bottom of it where Astrid and I were sitting. A hole, like probably this big. You could feel every bump, every bruise, every shake. Not to mention there was no cover on the plane. So you're just out there, dick, whistling in the wind. It was wild. It was wild. And this guy is like, you know.
- [52:36]
Brian Green
I love you, honey.
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Joy Hoodley
I love you. And Astrid was like frozen solid. First of all, frozen. It's cold up there. Second of all, frozen, because we didn't know if we were gonna fall out of the plane at any moment because it didn't feel very sturdy. It did not at all feel very sturdy. The plane's from like 1952 and the guy who was flying us was like a 12 year old kid. He was. He was like. He couldn't have been more than 19 years old. So we were a little nervous about the whole thing. We managed to make it through. He flew us over the festival. He wanted to know if we wanted to do any like, you know, fly arounds or twisted loops or whatever. And I was like, do not do anything with this plane. Fly it straight, fly it low, get us back. Like, I knew instantly when we got in that plane that we were not going to enjoy this because taking off when there's a hole in the floor, you know, there's a lot of question marks. And I still have a shot of Astrid and I with those glasses on the top of our heads. Because you got to wear glasses, you know, in case a bird flies into your face. That's fucked up. It's so stupid when you think about it. It so stupid. And PDK is a place where I learned how to fly a plane. Actually, that's where I was flying. It's a very busy plane. I'll never forget the day I walked into the to. They have a bunch of buildings, administrative buildings and offices and stuff on the campus for like, you know, different companies that do whatever there. And I walk into this, the. The building that this pilot school is in, and Rohan, the guy who owned the school and was the actual like lead flight instructor, he's given a class or something, finishing something up. So he throws me the keys and he's like, building 37. There's like a Piper C42. Bring it on over. And I'm like, bring it on over. Bring it on over. You want me to drive a plane over here? I don't even know. I. And I, I could tell by the look in his face, he was like. And Rohan's specialty, just to let you know, was teaching children how to fly planes. I was the only adult in the class.
- [54:41]
Brian Green
Really?
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Joy Hoodley
Yes, it was it. He owned a pilot school that specifically catered to children. Now you had to be, I think 14 or something to fly a plane with an adult. Then you, I think you have to be 18 to get your actual license, but whatever. But these kids were flying and a lot of them much better than, I mean, way better than I was. They were like in advanced classes and I was still, you know, learning what the rudder did anyway, so he could tell, I think, that I was scared. He threw me the keys to an airplane and told me to bring it over. It was like a mile away down three runways. And so he says to you, pull.
- [55:14]
Brian Green
The plane around, pull the plane around.
- [55:17]
Joy Hoodley
And he tells, you know, Billy to go with me. Well, Billy's like a 12 year old fucking kid. So I gotta drive us over to this hangar because he doesn't have his license. I gotta drive us over to the hangar. I gotta open the hangar up, we gotta pull the airplane out, we gotta start it up, go through the checklist, call the, you know, ground, you know, ground, air, ground traffic, you know, let them know we're coming on over. Can you stop all the traffic? And then I've gotta navigate this thing through a bunch of parked airplanes down a really thin Runway. Chrissy, I've never been so nervous about driving anything in my life. Yes. And the kid is like giving me no help. He's like, oh, Rohan told me to let you do it. You got this. And I'm like, are you, do you have pubes? Do you have hair under your armpits?
- [56:07]
Brian Green
Let me see.
- [56:08]
Joy Hoodley
Because I'm like a 30 something year old man and I'd rather you tell me what to do. If you got a pube, let me know and you could take control of the situation immediately. Because I'm scared. I don't know about you, but I'm scared. I'm much older. I have a lot more life experience. I would be scared if I were you. I'm gonna crash this thing. It's a certainty I managed to get it over there safely. They did have an X where the planes were supposed to be parked. You know, they have, like, a marker, right? It's like a circle. You're supposed to put the planes in, you know, to keep air so the ground traffic can keep a hold of what all. Everything that's going on. This is behind a building where the flight school was. And I can't tell you how poorly I overshot that circle. I was like, in three circles over, and the plane was sideways. We actually had to walk it into its right position because here's a little news flash. Planes don't go backwards. You can't back up a plane. Doesn't work. I mean, you can, but you got to have someone doing it for you. Anyway, so I'm watching pdk and I'm watching all these planes come in, and I'm like, oh, that's exciting. Oh, that's exciting. That's, you know, because on your tracker. On your tracker. Because then you can, like, go online. You can map it to, like, who might own it or who might be in it or who's. Whatever. And I found a plane, and then. And I saw some pictures online of Livy Dunn and her boyfriend coming. You know Livy Dunn? No, you haven't heard this name. So Livy Dunn is a LSU gymnast who is a very attractive woman, and she has gained millions and millions and millions of followers.
- [57:46]
Brian Green
Read an article about her.
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Joy Hoodley
Yeah.
- [57:47]
Brian Green
And her boyfriend. Her famous boyfriend.
- [57:48]
Joy Hoodley
Her famous boyfriend is a baseball player.
- [57:50]
Brian Green
Yes.
- [57:50]
Joy Hoodley
Right. And so they took an airplane, I mean, a really nice airplane to Atlanta so that he can be in the. In the All Starfish.
- [57:58]
Brian Green
Right, right.
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Joy Hoodley
And. But it made me do, like, a little homework on Livy Dunn. 21 years old, 6 and a half million followers. Just. Just. I think on Instagram alone, she's, like, extraordinarily popular, paid really well. She is the spokesperson for not Skims, but another brand of like, not Lululemon, but another brand. I can't remember the name of the brand. I see the commercials. A shapewear brand. Like a sportswear brand. Right. And you'll. If you saw a commercial, you would recognize it, but she is just, like, fantastically wealthy, 21 years old, pretty good gymnast, but that's not the necessarily why. I mean, listen, let's. Let's call Spade a spade. She's a very attractive girl.
- [58:36]
Brian Green
Yeah.
- [58:37]
Joy Hoodley
And I think that's a. That is the allure. She's also a personality. So, you know, she does a lot of social media stuff, but I was Reading that Livy gets so much attention that they had to actually ask guys that were coming to these meets, to these gymnast. Gymnast meets to settle down a little bit. Like, you got to settle down a little bit. Livy is here to do gymnastics. And so the guys have to put their boners away for a second because, you know, we got to win this gym match. And if you can't respect that, then you need to not show up. It was like a thing. It was like an ordeal that she had and unfortunate, but at the same time, you know, there's plenty of hot looking dudes. The same thing happens to. You know, it's like when the beauty of youth and that sells a lot, right? And so to be 21 years old with all that fame and all that money and taking these private planes around, must be an amazing, amazing life. Good for her. I say, hey, listen.
- [59:38]
Brian Green
Yeah, more power.
- [59:39]
Joy Hoodley
You're doing great. And then because of all of the deregulation around sponsorships with the ncaa, she is allowed to be making money off her own likeness and her own name, whereas before, the NCAA would be making all the money off her likeness and her name. I think that's the one thing that's changed that I apprec. Like a. There's like a tie in there in my brain that she's fabulously wealthy, successful and famous because of her athletic prowess, but then because she's a smart businesswoman and because she's a personality, but then because she's now allowed to be have that prowess and that acumen as a businesswoman and be out there making a name for herself off her own brand. Listen, in the. The near future, your personal brand is going to be the most valuable thing available. It's not going to be about companies. It's going to be about personal brands. It already is to a large degree about personal brands. Look at some of the people that are out there that are making gobs and gobs of money being their own brand. From Joe Rogan to Conan o' Brien to Livy Dunn to their. It's not about the Tonight show anymore. It's about Conan o'. Brien. It's not about it. The person leads the brand. The brand then has the value.
- [60:57]
Brian Green
Yeah, all of the Kardashians.
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Joy Hoodley
Oh, you know, I saw that. I wanted to talk about this. We don't have a ton of time. We'll talk about this next episode. But that Kardashian, the mom Kardashian.
- [61:09]
Brian Green
Kris Jenner.
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Joy Hoodley
Kris Jenner, Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King on a Fucking yacht in the Mediterranean, wearing moo moos from Walmart or something. It's the most obnoxious thing in the world. I have a lot of respect for Oprah Winfrey, I really do. Yeah, my mom loved her. I think she is probably one of the more important pop culture self made stories of the 20th, 21st century. But I don't like the fact that she's out there with Kris Jenner sunning it up on the Mediterranean and some yacht and they're all kissing up to Jeff Bezos's ass.
- [61:43]
Brian Green
And is that for the wedding?
- [61:44]
Joy Hoodley
I don't know if it was for the wedding or not. Probably around the wedding they probably all decided, let's, hey, let's rent a billion dollar yacht and get out there in the Mediterranean and take pictures on social media. It drives me crazy. Then Gayle King flying up in that stupid Jeff Bezos, you know, dick shaped bullet. I mean, honestly, I just, I don't know, I hate that. I don't know. Kris Jenner to me is like the epitome of manufacturers. She's like the epitome of stage mom manufactured. And I know that she has done extremely well for herself and her family. And for that I guess I can applaud that. Mom took care of business, right? However, the Kardashians to me are representative. Even though I don't hate them, they're representative of something that I just dislike altogether and it just seems so manufactured, forced and fake. And then to see Oprah, who I used to consider a very authentic creator, right? A very authentic human being who was here doing some good, putting her thumb on the scale in the right places. And now I see her kissing ass with Jeff Bezos and, you know, crying about the flying dick, hanging out with Chris Jenner on a billion dollar yacht.
- [63:08]
Brian Green
You don't like it?
- [63:09]
Joy Hoodley
I don't like it one bit. But who cares what I think? Honestly, at the end of the day, who cares what Brian thinks? Apparently not a lot of people, let's just put it that way. Apparently not a lot of you. I'll have more to say about that later. I'll show you the pictures. I'll show you the pictures. You tell me when you think.
- [63:30]
Brian Green
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people out there like that.
- [63:34]
Joy Hoodley
Yeah, there is. I, I just, I guess, you know, idol worship is never something that's, that's good. Maybe I should not expect anything from Oprah, anything different. It's not Gail King and Kris Jenner. I expect that from them all day long. I mean, Honestly, it's Oprah been tar.
- [63:50]
Brian Green
Oprah's been tarnished.
- [63:51]
Joy Hoodley
Tarnished in my mind. Yes. I don't. I don't like it. I don't like him. When bet. I don't like all that ass kissing going on. I just don't like it. But who am I? I'm someone who will never be on Amazon's podcast platform. But that's okay. That's okay. There's only one left really. It's Odyssey.
- [64:09]
Brian Green
So they might have all been plotting to like do something really great for the world.
- [64:13]
Joy Hoodley
I'm sure.
- [64:13]
Brian Green
Let's think.
- [64:14]
Joy Hoodley
I'm sure Kris Jenner is plotting to do something great. Like what's the next billion dollar check I can get for my silly reality reality show? I mean honestly. But I also can't argue the success of those ladies. I mean, I mean incredible. They took a nugget of notoriety and blew it up into a hot air balloon of fame and fortune. I mean it's unbelievable. Really is unbelievable. And I don't hate on that. I say good for you. Yeah. That skims brand is like worth like 70,000,000,000,000 or some like that.
- [64:48]
Brian Green
Oh yeah, yeah.
- [64:49]
Joy Hoodley
It's crazy. Do you have skims? Do you own skims?
- [64:52]
Brian Green
I think I do have a skims bodysuit.
- [64:55]
Joy Hoodley
Yeah. Whatever happened to the other one? The one that we were all excited about from the girl here in Atlanta.
- [64:59]
Brian Green
Spanx.
- [65:00]
Joy Hoodley
Spanx. We still doing Spanx Still.
- [65:02]
Brian Green
That's still around and kids still a thing.
- [65:04]
Joy Hoodley
Still doing that. That girl really awesome. That girl.
- [65:07]
Brian Green
Sarah Lively.
- [65:08]
Joy Hoodley
Sarah Lively. All right. Anyway, who cares? What do we think talking about I don't know. 21243.
- [65:15]
Brian Green
Way more money.
- [65:16]
Joy Hoodley
People have way more money than we do. 212-433-3TCB 212-433-822. Questions, comments, concerns or content ideas. We are taking them all right there on that phone number. Communicate with us. We love to hear it. Thanks for all the people who are texting in. You can join the conversation tcbpodcast.com all the audio, all the video and your free sticker which you will also also get if you buy our merch. Coming up in our limited merch drop soon at the commercial break on Instagram tcbpodcast.com I already said that. YouTube.com the commercial break for all the episodes on video the same day they air here on the audio. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for today.
- [65:54]
Brian Green
I think so I'll tell you that I love you.
- [65:56]
Joy Hoodley
Best to you and best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time we will say, we do say and we must say goodbye.
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