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Chris Hoadley
On this episode of the commercial break.
Brian Green
I'd say, really, when you get down to the last 13 pieces in the loaf of bread, throw that away with the twisty tie and the plastic. If you put any plastic bowls in your cabinets, you are smiting the Lord according to Kenny. But if someone asks you for your furniture, give it to them and sleep on a box.
Chris Hoadley
Amen. This is serious. It's very serious. We don't see it, but it's in the spirit and there are spirits involved. Amen.
Brian Green
Amen.
Chris Hoadley
There's, there's something.
Brian Green
Can you imagine sitting in this audience and believing any of this?
Joy Hoadley
No.
Brian Green
I would be like, honey, we have got to go. What is he talking about?
Joy Hoadley
Yes. It doesn't make any sense.
Brian Green
None of it.
Chris Hoadley
The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, yeah.
Brian Green
Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Chris and Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chris.
Joy Hoadley
Best to you, Brian.
Brian Green
Best to you out there in the podcast universe. How the hell are you? Thanks for joining us today. Chrissy, how are you feeling? Are you feeling the pinch in your pocket at the grocery store?
Joy Hoadley
I am. God. I just went grocery shopping the other day. I was like, what? Wow.
Brian Green
Woo hoo. I have so many people living in this household that when I go to the grocery store, nary a fifty dollar, a fifty bill isn't spent on the smallest of things. I go in for like six items. I spend $50. I don't understand it. It's hard to believe that just six years ago we were paying so much less for everything. A gallon of milk, $1.99. Now it's 3.99 for a gallon of milk. I mean, even things like, well, even.
Joy Hoadley
Things like garlic powder. I needed garlic powder, you know, ran out, needed it for a recipe. I went to go get it. It was like five, $5 or $6.
Brian Green
That's insane. It's insane. I almost, almost, almost am thinking about decoupling gotten out of control.
Joy Hoadley
Oh, it has to.
Brian Green
And yeah, and I know the tariffs have a lot to do with it, but let's just, let's be honest about it. Starbucks has always been expensive. It's always been way ahead of the coffee curve. Like you could go to a good local coffee shop that farms their beans from, you know, co ops down in Costa Rica or wherever and you could pay 399 for a good cup of iced coffee. I'm paying 799. Yeah, but I know it is a huge cup of coffee. That is for sure. But $10 almost every time I go there. When you factor in a dollar tip, it's almost 10 bucks. Yeah, it's. Everything is out of control. The only thing that I will say doesn't seem to be going too crazy are the gas prices right now, because at least not here in Georgia. You know, we can still fill up our car for a reasonable amount of money. Small car, $30. Big car, $80. I remember during the pandemic, at times we were paying over $100 to fill up that big car.
Joy Hoadley
Oh, God. And thinking even back to 2008. Oh, my God.
Brian Green
Yeah.
Joy Hoadley
So expensive.
Brian Green
Consumer debt is climbing. More and more people are using their credit cards to live on a daily basis. Most of us live paycheck to paycheck. That is just that. That's how most people have always lived, but now more than ever, that's how people lived. And, you know, it's hard out there. It's hard to make a living. It's hard to put two months together in a row where you feel comfortable with money. It's hard not to feel the pinch every once in a while.
Joy Hoadley
Your paycheck doesn't even go as far as it used to. That's know you have to make it up somehow. And that oftentimes is a credit card.
Brian Green
A credit card, a credit card. But then that credit card is just. Is leading to more misery. It's leading to more debt. There are very few of us that are completely credit card debt free. Very few of us. At least in, you know, the socioeconomic ladder that I'm living in, which is, you know, making $250,000 or less a year. You know, there's a lot of people who are using those credit cards and getting massive amounts of debt, rolling and just figuring, at some point, I'll win the lottery and I'll pay it off. That's kind of. I think that's a retirement strategy for a lot of people. I'll win the lottery. I'll start a business. I'll have that next great idea that, you know, the cookies that I'm baking will start selling on Facebook, and, you know, people will go crazy for them. It does happen. Of course it does. There are lots of people who become fabulously wealthy being entrepreneurs, doing something for themselves or winning the lottery. But you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than you do winning the lottery. I say all this to say that it's a tough time to be a person in the United States of America that's not fabulously wealthy or have some friends that are fabulously wealthy. It's really, really tough. But luckily for all of us, Chrissy, I have found a solution to debt, and that is to give more money to the prosperity preachers.
Joy Hoadley
Oh, well, yeah, because then it's going.
Brian Green
To come back to you tenfold according to Leviticus 34.75. 22. And, you know, we have often scorned prosperity preachers here on the show, but after listening to some of their mumbo jumbo while doing research for this episode, I think they might be on to something. And really, I don't want to keep it a secret. I want to let. Yes. Yes.
Joy Hoadley
I don't want to keep it a secret.
Brian Green
I don't want to keep it. How else did Kenny Copeland get four? Not one, not two, not three, four. Private planes.
Joy Hoadley
The Lord.
Brian Green
The Lord. He must have prayed to the Lord. That's what Jesus was all about. Private planes and fancy shoes and, you know, private champagne rooms at strip clubs. Yes. If Jesus didn't teach us one. If Jesus taught us one thing and one thing only, it's to speak his word and ask for money at the same time. And when you do that by also then, you know, making sure that people know they're going to go to hell and, you know, burn for eternity if they don't give you their money. If you do that, then you too can be fabulously wealthy, tax free, because that's a huge loophole in the government's tax policy. So I don't want to waste another minute talking about any other kind of debt relief programs like calling a credit counselor or actually starting to pay down your bills or asking your boss for more money or getting a second job or, you know, no cutting the cord on a couple of your streaming services. That.
Joy Hoadley
Those are hard.
Brian Green
Those are sacrifices I am not willing to. Yeah, but a sacrifice I am willing to make is paying additional money to my church, knowing that it's going to come back to me ten fold. Now, tithing is a thing. It's been a thing forever. And in the Bible, I think the tithing says you should give 10%, at least 10% of what you are making straight to the Lord. But since the Lord's not here to take your money directly, luckily there are people like Kenny Copeland who will get in the middle and act as kind of like a money broker if you.
Joy Hoadley
Exactly. They've got a direct access.
Brian Green
They have private planes that go higher in the sky and they can get closer to the Lord. Because when you think about it, if the money is yours and you are to give it to the Lord, and if you give it to Kenny Copeland and then he gets nice shoes, multi million dollar houses and four airplanes, the Lord likes that. The Lord is all about it. He is a happy, happy dude. He has a lordly erection over your tithing. Yeah, straight to Kenny Copeland's. You know, I don't think Kenny Copeland gets an erection anymore. But you know, he. Kenny is clearly the person on earth that was appointed to take your money and spend it on the Lord's behalf. And he's doing great work with it. I've seen some of his houses. They have private pools. One of them has an indoor pool. He's. You know that plane seats 20 people? One of them does. It can go from here all the way to Timbuktu without refueling. And why would you refuel? Who needs refueling when you've got to go other places on earth and take other people's money for the Lord.
Joy Hoadley
Get there quick.
Brian Green
That's right.
Joy Hoadley
Can't stop for refuel.
Brian Green
He's a bank teller for the Lord. He's an ATM for the Lord. But it only goes one way. In, not out. And so, you know, these are prosperity preachers. I do think they're onto something now. And I have. I'd like to apologize directly to their faces for being so cynical as to believe that they weren't in fact going to be good stewards of the millions or billions of dollars that their flock give them. I mean, why. Who am I to judge?
Joy Hoadley
You know, I'm sure they'll Forgive you.
Brian Green
Your fourth Rolex when 82% of your congregation can't pay rent or buy groceries without using a credit card. Who am I to judge you buying that eighth Rolex? Who. Who amongst us? And let me ask you this. I just want. I just have a favor to ask, just a question to ask all the prosperity preachers out there. If I can't pay my rent next month, is it okay that you sell one of your Rolex watches to help me pay my rent? The answer to that is no.
Joy Hoadley
That's the way it works.
Brian Green
Not.
Joy Hoadley
Yeah, no, it can't.
Brian Green
It's.
Joy Hoadley
He's not allowed to do that.
Brian Green
In. In Smicotines 34.7, it says, Thou shall not ask for thy tithing back for thy. Has already spent it on private strippers for my hotel room in Vegas. And I shall not be taxed. So if, if we want to get into the nitty gritty, I understand that it may be concerning that all of these people are taking the money one way and never giving it back the other way. But it's clearly written in the books that the rules. It's the rules. And don't smite God. You shouldn't smite God. And by trying to take that money back, you're smiting God. So I think it's important that we hear a little bit of the gospel and we understand, we get into it, we understand really what we're talking about here. Because I am not a Samaritan of the Lord. I cannot take money on the Lord's behalf. It has not been. I've not been bequeathed or queefed.
Joy Hoadley
Ordained, yes.
Brian Green
I've not been queefed, Bequeathed on, onto it. It's not my lot in life. But luckily there are people that have been. And I mean, when you think about it, Chrissy, how insane is it? Let's, let's drop the smart ass routine for a second. How super crazy is it that guys like Kenny Copeland are on their fourth airplane?
Joy Hoadley
That is crazy. I really, I mean, what, four?
Brian Green
And there are people in every row of his church that are desperately, desperately looking for any extra money that they can get. And he's telling them that they will certainly burn in hell if they don't give every dollar possible to his church. Yeah. And he's willing to flaunt it. Not only does he speak about it, not only does he use all of that money tax free, not only is he absolutely dripping in wealth and gold and riches and lives a lifestyle that very few people will ever experience, but then he gets up and he talks down to people about how they're not spending enough money on him. This is the scourge of religion right now. And if you don't believe that, just like we were talking about the other day with, with politics and politicians, if you saw some, any in any other business, if you saw somebody else doing that, taking people's money, making themselves fabulously wealthy, not doing a lot of good with it, and then refusing to give back when you needed something, you would probably consider them a dirt bag. But if you open up the Bible and you start speaking some mumbo jumbo of the tens of thousands of words that are in that Bible and you twist those words to fit your purpose, then God asked you to make sense, then it makes sense. Don't, don't fall for this scam, because that's exactly what it is, it's a scam. Believe in Jesus, read the Bible, go to the church. Go to your local church that has like a, like a fair to raise some money, right? I mean, I remember when I was a kid, I mean, listen, the Catholic Church is like the, the worst of the worst offenders, but they don't have prosperity preachers up there. They have priests who largely live in poverty their entire lives. They. But the church puts them up. Housing, food, rent, usually a car, something like that, right? I'm not saying one is better than the other. They're all bad. But I remember like, you know, they, they would take money, sure, but then they would. They have like a fair. Bake sale, bake sale, whatever, you know, clothing drive, whatever it was. Go to your local community church where the guy or the girl standing up front isn't fabulously wealthy because of the money you're giving, but it's going in the do and then back out the door to the community to do some good, to feed some kids, to help somebody get through a childhood cancer diagnosis, or help somebody through a tough time. Or you can go to the church when you're having a tough time. And they say, hey, listen, this is exactly why we have this money. You can't pay rent this month. We'll help you out. Pay it back when you can go to that church.
Joy Hoadley
That makes sense.
Brian Green
I guar te that if you go to Kenny Copeland or Jesse Duplantis or whoever, name them, there's a million of them right now. If you go to any of those people that are flying around these, you know, $50 million planes and driving, you know, $500,000 cars, I guarantee if you go to any of those people and you're having a problem, they're going to tell you that's your problem, not God's problem.
Joy Hoadley
Pray on it.
Brian Green
Pray on it. That's right. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. I hate it.
Joy Hoadley
I know.
Brian Green
It really drives me crazy. I'm sorry. It really does. It drives me crazy. And it doesn't drive me crazy because I want to be clear about this. I don't believe that the people that are sitting in the aisles are dumb or lesser than or shouldn't be believing in Jesus or God or whatever. I don't believe any of that. I believe you are caught up in the longest running con on earth. Organized religion. It is a money grab. It is a pyramid scheme and you are at the bottom and you always will be. It's never coming back your way. I mean, unless you learn how to preach and then, you know, get in the good graces.
Joy Hoadley
We've talked about it, you and I have, starting our own religion.
Brian Green
I think I could do it.
Joy Hoadley
And going tax free.
Brian Green
Yeah. I think if I could learn a little bit more about the Bible and figure out how to twist those words up and you know, I could put a little rabble rouse in my voice. Hallelujah.
Joy Hoadley
Yeah, you could do it.
Brian Green
I think I could do it. I think I could do it. And then you can sit there, you.
Joy Hoadley
Can have a tambourine, you can be my hype girl. Yeah, I'll be the hype girl.
Brian Green
There's a recent video going around of a preacher. His name is Wayans, I think his last name is Wayans. He's a very famous preacher. And lady comes up and he is individually having people line up and say how much they're going to give to the Lord. And she says, here's a check for $1,000 and an extra 250. And he said, that's not what I asked for. That's not what I asked for. He was asking for $2,000 at least from each congregant. Wow. And he said, that's not what I asked for. And she said, well, I'm going to try and get the rest of the money together. And he said, that's not what I asked for. That's not what I asked for you to give. And he was like chastising her in front of a whole congregation about not giving $2,000. Another preacher drove his Rolls Royce into the church and started talking about how God wanted him to drive this, that he was the shepherd of the money and the shepherd of the church and why shouldn't he be driving this? To let people know that if you believe in the Lord, that good things come to you and someone screams out, can I drive it? And he goes, he goes, no, Jesus would not have that.
Joy Hoadley
Can I drive it?
Brian Green
Can I drive it? That's a great question. Can I drive it? Why not? Why do you get to drive it, but I don't? Fuckers. All of them fuckers. And they're taking money left and right. Zero taxes, zero accountability, zero responsibility. Now the good news is there are a couple of people out there. Religion as a business, I think is the Instagram account that I started following. They're putting it together, a documentary on people like Kenny Copeland. And they are starting to hold some of these people accountable. Like, okay, you have to let us know where this money went because you're a non profit. Yeah, Tell us where the money went. And there's holes in all of the stories, right? Oh, I'm sure people are buying, you know, all kind of preachers are buying all kinds of real estate everywhere, but they're not reporting it. And then they're selling the real, they're buying the real estate, mortgaging the real estate with the church and the church funds, and then they're selling it and pocketing the money themselves. It's insane. Insane. I mean, tax free. All right, let's hear from Kenny Copeland about.
Joy Hoadley
Yeah, let's, let's go.
Brian Green
How do we get rid of, how do we get rid of this debt that we've got? That's the important part. That's what I wanted to really focus on because I know a lot of people out there are struggling with this, including us. So let's get wise. Let's talk to somebody who knows Kenny Copeland when we get back.
Rachel
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Joy Hoadley
Even the Halloween candy. God, I've got to buy that.
Brian Green
And man, yeah, I know it's crazy. It's insane. We also were looking to go buy some Halloween candy. And we have these trunker treats that are going on and one of them is like last year the parents just went crazy like buying a bunch of really expensive candy for the kids. And so we were talking to other parents about what they were getting. And again, they're getting really nice candy for the kids. And I thought to myself, gez, we're going to spend $100, right?
Joy Hoadley
Oh, yeah.
Brian Green
On candy alone. Now that's okay. It's my kids and it's okay. Like if it's once a year and we're, you know, whatever, we will figure it out. But still.
Joy Hoadley
Yeah, that's $100 on everybody.
Brian Green
Yeah, it's insane. All right, here's Kenny. You know, he's going to be spouting some biblical stuff. We'll walk through it together. Here we go. Oh, well, that didn't work, did it? Well, I tried. I try. Well, I guess that's our sign that Kenny doesn't want us to do this.
Joy Hoadley
Yeah.
Brian Green
Okay, let's listen to what Kenny has to say here. There he is. He's looking old man. He's looking.
Joy Hoadley
Still looking sharp though. Look at that nice silk tie.
Brian Green
Suit. That's a thousand dollar suit right there. I guarantee. Or more.
Joy Hoadley
Oh yeah, that's custom made.
Brian Green
Oh yeah, we gotta be custom made. He's got him. The Lord. Gotta look it for the Lord. He has a guy just turns his pages for him. What? He's up on a podium, his wife is there with him. I think that's his wife, I think. And then he's got some dude that's just turning. This is the same guy when he was blowing away the coronavirus that was talking all the kind of bullshit Kenny's just saying. 18. 18. Yeah.
Joy Hoadley
Turn to the page.
Brian Green
Turn to the page. Oh, you're in trouble.
Chris Hoadley
Receive the power.
Brian Green
Receive the power.
Chris Hoadley
The power to get. Wealth is the blessing of Abraham and it's in you right now. Thank you. Don't be looking to the outside.
Brian Green
It's so evil. He is an evil man. The way he smiles, he looks like Satan himself. Yeah. And the way his eyebrows go up. Yeah, he is really, I don't think a good person. I just bet he isn't in you.
Chris Hoadley
All you need is in you right now. Thank you, Jesus.
Brian Green
Don't be looking to no wallet outside yourself. Just habity dabbity wishity pishity on it and it'll come to you. Now give me a thousand doll. Oh, thank you, Jesus. That's him speaking in tongues. His old buddy over there.
Chris Hoadley
You need to pay off. Everything you have is inside you right now.
Joy Hoadley
It's all your kidney.
Brian Green
Yeah.
Joy Hoadley
Your organs are a great source of money.
Brian Green
Oh, what a fucker.
Chris Hoadley
The blessing of Abraham. Yes. Go back to the book of Genesis.
Brian Green
I wish Abraham would stop by my door, you know what I'm saying?
Chris Hoadley
And observe that power in the life of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Yes. Observe that power at work.
Brian Green
Here is the mumbo jumbo that he is taking the Bible and twisting it all up. I had to read the Bible as a kid because I went to catholic school. All my life I kind of vaguely remember the story of Abraham. I don't think it had anything to do with buying airplanes or Rolexes.
Joy Hoadley
I don't think there is passage in there.
Brian Green
No, there's not.
Chris Hoadley
And say, glory to God. That's in me. I have the power to get wealth. The blessing.
Brian Green
Glory to God. I got a holy fart full of money coming out of me. I'm about to a 12 ounce gold brick.
Chris Hoadley
The Lord is on the inside of me. I release that power in the name of Jesus. I believe I receive the blessing beyond measure.
Brian Green
Yes.
Chris Hoadley
Thank you, Jesus. Amen. Thank you, Jesus.
Brian Green
Amen. Can I get an amen?
Chris Hoadley
I have that power. I have the power. It is resident in me. Now there's financial great, like a little.
Brian Green
Parasite, a little tapeworm full of money. You can't just pray your way to money.
Chris Hoadley
It's on the inside of me. Thank you, Lord. I am an extremely wealthy person. Thank you, Jesus. Extremely wealthy.
Brian Green
I dare you, when you say it, it's true.
Chris Hoadley
I dare you to just take your receipts and so forth and just figure out what you've sown over the last five years and multiply it times 100.
Brian Green
Here we go. Here we go.
Joy Hoadley
What? Take your receipts.
Brian Green
Take your receipts that you've sown to the church. How much have you given to the church? And multiply it by 10. Because when you do that, you're going to realize you haven't given enough. That's why you're not rich.
Joy Hoadley
That's one.
Chris Hoadley
That hundredfold belongs to you. You need to aggressively receive it. And it's on the inside of you. It's not outside someplace. You're rich on the inside, so you can be rich on the outside.
Brian Green
Hallelujah.
Chris Hoadley
Thank you, Jesus.
Brian Green
Thank you, Jesus. Thank you for making Kenny Copeland my secret man lover so I can fly on his plane. Also, praise God. I want a suit as nice as Kenny's.
Chris Hoadley
That's enough. Shout about yeah, Glory to God. But go back. Praise God. Go back. Go back to the book of Genesis and find out what it says about your father Abraham and your father faith. You have the faith of Abraham. I do. I do.
Brian Green
Look at you.
Joy Hoadley
I do.
Brian Green
I do. Hallelujah. Look at him pointing at people. You and you. And you didn't give enough, and you haven't given enough.
Chris Hoadley
Then go to Galatians, chapter three.
Brian Green
I don't want to go all over the book. Can you have like Cliff Notes or something?
Joy Hoadley
Can I ask, Siri, is there an audio version?
Brian Green
Yeah. What about chat?
Chris Hoadley
You are blessed with Father Abraham. That's the reason I got so excited one time I did that when we were living there in Tulsa, and my goodness, we. Well, you know the story.
Brian Green
Well, you know the story. I only had one plane, and times were tough. I had to refuel, Chrissy.
Joy Hoadley
Refueling had to happen.
Chris Hoadley
And I said, gloria, come here. Come here. I said, sit down here. We have the blessing of Abraham.
Brian Green
You woman, sit. Listen to my shit.
Chris Hoadley
And I went back through those scriptures. I said, look at this. Look at this. We're rich now. This ain't nothing but a matter of time. That's right.
Brian Green
That's right. That's right.
Joy Hoadley
And then I started the church.
Brian Green
That's right. So I started the church and I started to take your money.
Chris Hoadley
Hallelujah. We're rich now. We're rich now.
Joy Hoadley
You were in an atmosphere listening to Brother Hagin, listening to Brother Roberts, and you were in the Word when you made that discovery. So it doesn't just come out of just a service once in a while. There was when he mentioned several series that are available. You find out how serious you are.
Brian Green
About several series that are available for $49.99.
Joy Hoadley
Coming out of debt by finding out what you put in to draw that blessing out.
Brian Green
Right, Hoogly Boogly?
Joy Hoadley
Right. It's circles.
Brian Green
Remember we were a couple days ago, we were doing that video on Sally Jesse Raphael where we couldn't understand what anybody was talking about. This is ten times as confusing.
Chris Hoadley
You make the priorities. Well, do I put listening to this here? Well, let's see. Well, you know, we have to watch the news.
Joy Hoadley
What?
Chris Hoadley
And we have to do this. No, you're not serious.
Brian Green
No, no, no. You got to buy the. You got to buy the book, you got to buy the series.
Chris Hoadley
You'll go on and on and on. You'll come to church and smile and shout and say, I'm rich now. And go on and keep. Keep doing the same old thing. That's Kept you broke all these years. Why, brother Copeland, I'm not broke. Yeah, you are.
Brian Green
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have four planes, you poor bastard.
Joy Hoadley
You have four planes.
Brian Green
Do you have a Rolex? One on your hand, one on each hand, and one in your ass. I'm into some kinky shit.
Chris Hoadley
Let me ask you a question. Do you have enough money in the bank right now? The last five years, or something would happen.
Joy Hoadley
He can't even be bothered to hold his. His microphone.
Brian Green
Yeah, I know. He's got some woman holding it for him. What a.
Chris Hoadley
Then you're broke.
Brian Green
Do you have enough money in your bank to fund two absolutely terrible movies?
Joy Hoadley
I mean, five years. What if something happened?
Chris Hoadley
You.
Joy Hoadley
Do you have enough money for five years? No.
Brian Green
No, I don't have enough money for five days.
Joy Hoadley
Yeah.
Brian Green
Honestly.
Chris Hoadley
You got some income? You got some income, my brother Copeland? I've got $50,000 in the bank. Then you don't have any money.
Brian Green
So what is he saying? So he's not. You're not broke, but you are broke. You're not broke, but you are broke. Yep. Piss. Piss on that.
Joy Hoadley
That's. That's what I.
Brian Green
You don't have any money.
Joy Hoadley
You need to change.
Brian Green
Give it to the church and it'll come back to you tenfold.
Chris Hoadley
Yeah, that's not enough.
Brian Green
Look at the. Look at the other guy. He's like, huh, huh, huh?
Chris Hoadley
Put it back. Yeah, yeah. You're thinking poor. Come on. Your soul's not prospering. Start thinking rich.
Joy Hoadley
Think and grow rich.
Brian Green
Chrissy, I am going to give you a ride home today in my Phantom Rolls. Roy. And then tomorrow we are going to buy Disney World so that we can do our next episode from Space Mountain.
Chris Hoadley
Glory to God.
Brian Green
Glory to God.
Chris Hoadley
Yes. Amen. I'll tell you what. I don't have it now, but it's just a matter of time. I'll have it. You wait and see. Praise God. Well, what are you going to do about it? Set the goal. Don't set it at 100,000. Set it at a million. You set the goal. One of these days, I'm going to have a million dollars in my bank. And in the name of Jesus, I will be the biggest giver at emic. Glory to God.
Brian Green
It always wraps back around to give into the church. Look at that lady raising her hand. I have a question about how this actually works.
Chris Hoadley
The goals set the bar.
Joy Hoadley
I contact Abraham.
Chris Hoadley
You know what?
Brian Green
Where's Abraham?
Chris Hoadley
I could ever have a million dollars. You're right. You are right. There's no way you could ever have it until your soul prospers. And it's a lot of little things.
Joy Hoadley
Like not watching the news.
Brian Green
Is that a bad thing?
Joy Hoadley
Something about that. Because then you're educated.
Brian Green
That's right.
Chris Hoadley
Ever suck the last bit of the toothpaste out of the tube?
Brian Green
What? What?
Joy Hoadley
A lot of little things.
Brian Green
And one of them is sucking the toothpaste out of the tooth. You realize that there's others of us that are down here on earth, right? That. That last tooth, that last bit of toothpaste Is not only needed, but even if I had a million dollars in my bank account, it would be resourceful to use the last bit of toothpaste. And I don't suck toothpaste out of the tube. Oh, that's a gross thing to do. I push it out with my penis.
Chris Hoadley
Trash it with a little left in there.
Brian Green
Why?
Chris Hoadley
This is scripture.
Brian Green
This is scriptures. Ah, yeah. There it is. Here comes the. Here comes the.
Chris Hoadley
I don't have time to go through all that.
Brian Green
I don't have time to find it necessarily.
Joy Hoadley
There's somewhere about there.
Brian Green
It's in there somewhere.
Chris Hoadley
Quit saving the twisties off the bread wrapper.
Brian Green
Yeah.
Chris Hoadley
You open the cabinet door, 25 or 30 plastic bowls fall out of the cabinet.
Joy Hoadley
What is he clean out?
Brian Green
Oh, he. He's on. He's on again. Flouting his wealth.
Chris Hoadley
Yeah.
Brian Green
And telling you you are not.
Joy Hoadley
Be wasteful.
Brian Green
Yeah, be wasteful.
Joy Hoadley
Just, you know, don't worry. Yeah. You're not thinking rich.
Brian Green
Not only does the earth not need you to save those plastic bowls and reuse them a second time, but it's just poor thinking.
Chris Hoadley
Glory to God. Now, don't say that. Rich people don't do that. Because some rich people are the po. Blindest people on earth. Those are the ones that. It's harder than a camel going through the eye of a needle to enter into the kingdom.
Brian Green
The camel going through the eye of a needle. Oh, kenny, you paint a picture.
Chris Hoadley
It's liberal, strong, prosperous soul.
Brian Green
Soul.
Chris Hoadley
I give the earmark. Prosperous soul is what. What terry and george were talking about? They just kept giving. The living room furniture was on rotation.
Brian Green
Yeah, they gave furniture. Oh, good. Yeah. Well, I guess they just buy new ones. They give it and they buy new ones and they give it and they buy new ones and.
Chris Hoadley
Yeah, I'll sit on a box Before I'll let one of our widows Go without a table to eat on.
Brian Green
Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure that you gave your table away to a widow. You bought a new one, and you just Talked about. Didn't you just say don't use the last bit of toothpaste but you're gonna sit on a box?
Chris Hoadley
I gotta talk about stuff that came out of the church?
Brian Green
Yeah.
Chris Hoadley
Being this way personally is what prospers the church. Amen. Amen.
Joy Hoadley
There we go.
Chris Hoadley
I wouldn't pay much attention to church.
Joy Hoadley
He's the church.
Brian Green
He's the church, so he needs to prosper.
Chris Hoadley
Pastor. That it hadn't already experienced it first.
Brian Green
Woohoo.
Chris Hoadley
Amen.
Brian Green
Amen.
Chris Hoadley
That's the kind of people I want to pay attention to. Amen. Gloria and I experienced it, walked it, walked it out. Watched the spirit of God work. But that scripture right there, the power to get wealth to establish his covenant.
Brian Green
Covenant?
Chris Hoadley
He promised he'd do it. This is a covenant. This is blood back talk.
Joy Hoadley
Bloodbath talk.
Chris Hoadley
Would talk.
Brian Green
I don't like blood back talk. That makes me nervous.
Joy Hoadley
Sounds like a band.
Brian Green
Blood back talk. This Saturday, the masquerade, playing an l butt. Back talk.
Chris Hoadley
It's a covenant. No, no, no, no no.
Brian Green
Ask Abraham.
Chris Hoadley
What about today? This is all backed with the blood of Jesus. This is all covenant. Well, I just don't see what it would hurt to I just don't see. I don't understand what it would hurt to go to a banker. I asked the lord, I said, I asked the lord.
Joy Hoadley
He all of a sudden got possessed. He was looking down, all of a looked up, I all of a sudden.
Brian Green
Why? Why?
Chris Hoadley
Because I think why? I said, you're not against me going to a doctor? Why would you have me not to do that? Go to a banker. He said, you don't have to enter covenant to go to a doctor, but you have to bow your knee and become connected to a banker. So you're connected to everything he is and whatever he's doing.
Joy Hoadley
What? Get a loan.
Brian Green
What? I've never bended the knee to my banker, but maybe that would help in the processing of my loan. Chrissy, can you come to my banker and help me process a loan? Oh, Kenny.
Joy Hoadley
Oh Kenny.
Brian Green
Okay, okay. Is anybody else out there in the audience seeing what a half baked loaf of horseshit this really is? There is no common sense being talked here. What? He's saying one thing, then he's saying another. He's saying a third thing, then he says a fourth thing. None of it, none of it is congruent and none of it makes sense. And we'll continue after this.
Rachel
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Brian Green
Okay. Back here with Kenny Copeland. He's teaching us how to get out of debt by. I don't know. He hasn't really given us a whole lot of steps yet.
Joy Hoadley
Yeah, you got to throw away toothpaste when there's still some in it.
Brian Green
Half a tube. That's as low as you should go. Don't save those twist ties from the bread.
Joy Hoadley
No, don't do that. Don't use plastic bowls.
Brian Green
That's right. Go buy additional bread. I'd say. Really, when you get down to the last 13 pieces in the loaf of bread, throw that away with the twisty tie and the plastic. If you put any plastic bowls in your cabinets, you are smiting the Lord, according to Kenny. But if someone asks you for your furniture, give it to them and sleep on a box.
Chris Hoadley
Yes. Yeah. Amen. This is serious. It's very serious. We don't see it, but it's in the spirit, and there are spirits involved. Amen.
Brian Green
Amen.
Chris Hoadley
There's something.
Brian Green
Can you imagine sitting in this audience and believing any of this? No. I would be like, honey, we have got to go. What is he fucking talking about?
Joy Hoadley
Yeah. It doesn't make any sense.
Chris Hoadley
None of it, bar from anybody that'll loan it. There are churches that owe money indirectly to the Mafia.
Brian Green
Oh, my God. Kenny.
Rachel
What?
Brian Green
What? And I guarantee you have always done business with a godly person. Always. Kenny. I bet you've taken money from international.
Joy Hoadley
Donors.
Brian Green
Donors. Countries that we wouldn't do business with here in America. I bet you have all kind of business dealings that are not only shady, but most likely illegal. But you don't get scrutinized because you're a church.
Chris Hoadley
This was back during the days that I was questioning the Lord about this. Amen.
Brian Green
He was questioning the Lord. He Thinks he's talking to the lord. He's probably talking to chatgpt like the rest of us.
Chris Hoadley
It is important.
Brian Green
Important.
Chris Hoadley
Very important.
Joy Hoadley
What?
Brian Green
What?
Chris Hoadley
Now I'll say this and I'll sit down.
Joy Hoadley
No, you're not.
Chris Hoadley
The picture of this is second corinthians, the ninth chapter.
Brian Green
Okay, Got it.
Chris Hoadley
Amen.
Brian Green
Amen.
Chris Hoadley
That's the. That's the profile of a prosperous believer. Amen.
Joy Hoadley
Amen. Oh, God.
Brian Green
Okay, now he's down in the crowd. Yeah. Oh, he's being walked around.
Joy Hoadley
Yeah.
Brian Green
Shika dicky, Oklahoma. Did he say shikidicky Oklahoma? Shake a dicky, Oklahoma. Here comes the horseshit where he pretends like he's talking to guys.
Chris Hoadley
It's been very difficult, saith the Lord, to get my people to come get what? I have provided for you. I've provided more than you can see. Any way to use. I've provided beyond your ability to ask or think. Come on up here with me. Come on up here and think with me. Look down on the earth. Don't be one on the earth. Looking up to heaven.
Brian Green
No.
Chris Hoadley
I raise you up to sit with me. I raised you up. You're seated there. Now, if you would just change your attitude and change elevations.
Brian Green
Huh? Huh? Yeah. Okay, Kenny. All right.
Chris Hoadley
I told the devil to crawl on his belly. I told you to come up here. So come up hither. Come up hither, saith the lord.
Brian Green
Come up.
Joy Hoadley
What are you supposed to do when you look down.
Brian Green
Yeah.
Joy Hoadley
On the earth.
Brian Green
From your plane 50,000ft above the earth.
Joy Hoadley
Did I ride on that?
Brian Green
No, no. That. That wouldn't be godly.
Chris Hoadley
Owner of God. Come up and sit with me on the throne of grace and look at all I have provided for you. I have made you wealthy beyond. Beyond your wildest dreams. If you would just understand and realize.
Joy Hoadley
I can see your trailer park right down there.
Brian Green
I can see your one bedroom apartment on Buford highway right there.
Chris Hoadley
That I am the lord that healeth thee. I am the Lord that gives you the power to get wealth. Now receive that power. I blessed you with the blessing of Abraham. I bless you with a future that's glorious and beyond compare. So rejoice. Rejoice. I say again, rejoice. Because all is well in the household of faith. Glory to God.
Brian Green
See, he just gets everybody worked up. Yeah, he gets everybody worked up. Amen. I'm rich now. I'm leaving this place. I'm rich. It's happening.
Chris Hoadley
Praise God. Thank you, Jesus.
Brian Green
By the way, you'll know that while they make it appear as if he's in some huge room. He's really not. That's a couple hundred people. And seats are empty.
Chris Hoadley
The loaves and fishes just began.
Brian Green
Turn it into wine, Kenny. I need to get drunk. It's brunch time.
Joy Hoadley
Yeah.
Chris Hoadley
The moment, saith the Lord, that you reached out to me to be your debt freedom. I've always been your debt freedom.
Joy Hoadley
He does that awful smile.
Brian Green
Smile is evil. It's evil.
Chris Hoadley
I never have been any other thing else in the financial realm. I am, saith Jesus, your freedom from owing man anything but to loving. Praise God.
Brian Green
Glory to God. That guy is such a dork up there. I know. What is he doing? I don't know. He's a dick. I don't like that guy. I don't like either of them.
Joy Hoadley
He's holding his hands up.
Brian Green
He's holding his hands up. He looks so small and puny. He's a dick.
Chris Hoadley
Don't look at your present income. Don't look at your present employer. Don't look and say, how can I get out beyond this?
Brian Green
No, no, sir. Give money to me, I will tenfold your investment.
Chris Hoadley
Say, jesus, you keep looking at me. I'm your way out. I'm your way up. I'm your way through. I am before you. I am behind you. I am all around you. And if you will let me, I'll lift you up out of that arena of debt so fast you'll wonder what happened to it all.
Joy Hoadley
Well, it sounds like a plan.
Brian Green
It sounds great. It sounds like a perfect plan. Just believe in Jesus.
Joy Hoadley
Step by step.
Brian Green
Yes. You know, step one.
Joy Hoadley
There's some clearer steps here.
Brian Green
Step one. Well, if we just take it at face value. Step one, give your money to Kenny. Step two, just keep on praising Jesus, and eventually that debt will be left behind so fast you can't even see it.
Joy Hoadley
Don't go to a banker.
Brian Green
Forget the bankers. They're not gonna give you money in your best interest. They're gonna give you money with interest. What we need to do is just keep giving it to Kenny so Kenny can. He's done so much good. More good than his whole congregation could take advantage of. But they won't come with him up above the heavens. They just won't look down on earth with him.
Chris Hoadley
For these are the days of my freedom, saith the Lord. These are.
Brian Green
These are the days of the freedom.
Chris Hoadley
Of debt. Freedom. I know what I'm doing, saith the Lord. Jesus saith.
Brian Green
Say it.
Chris Hoadley
Oh, I've got things. You never think.
Brian Green
That's in the Bible.
Joy Hoadley
I know what I'm doing.
Brian Green
What's that?
Joy Hoadley
Do you think that's in the Bible?
Brian Green
I know what I'm doing. Say it. Jesus. Yeah. Hey, I know what I'm doing. I'm Jesus. What, you don't trust me? Come on. What's wrong? I thought we're friends.
Chris Hoadley
I can do things you've only dreamed of if you will allow me.
Brian Green
Yeah, okay, Cool. Do it. Yeah, I got no problem with it. I'm open. Allowed. Whatever permission you're looking for. Permission granted.
Joy Hoadley
Get me out of debt, I'll accept the cookies.
Brian Green
Yeah, I got it. Yeah. Drop it right off at my front door. Allowed. You have permission to go into my bank account and put some zeros. Yeah, you could. Probably should put one number there first and then put some zeros.
Chris Hoadley
The first step.
Joy Hoadley
Oh, here we go.
Chris Hoadley
Is obedience to my word.
Brian Green
Yeah.
Chris Hoadley
The next step.
Brian Green
Obedience is how they get you. That's how organized religion gets you. Obedience to their way of thinking, to their rules and to their essentially, money Operation Freedom from Fear.
Chris Hoadley
You'll never have to be afraid of not having enough when you take me as your financier.
Brian Green
Oh, okay, Cool.
Chris Hoadley
I have more than enough.
Brian Green
Lovely.
Chris Hoadley
I am more than enough. I appreciate you. I enjoy your sowing into what I'm doing. Oh, I have ways and means.
Brian Green
Scooby. Come over here and look at this. I've got ways of means you've never even dreamed of. We're gonna be r. I have a.
Chris Hoadley
Million ways that I could prosper. You. You probably can't think of over 3.
Brian Green
I'm on a roll today.
Joy Hoadley
He's killing.
Brian Green
I'm gonna get some checks in my bank account today. No need to buy more fuel for that jet plane. The bank account's going cha ching, cha ching, cha ching.
Chris Hoadley
I have a million ways I have ways that you never heard of if you'll allow me I'll share them with you I'll lead you and I'll guide you and I'll show you witty inventions I'll take you to places you know.
Brian Green
Who is this? What is this? Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? I'll take you back. Seriously. Now he's Mr. Kazoo. Witty inventions and things you never dreamed.
Chris Hoadley
Of a dream and it'll be in your dreams I'll cause you to dream dreams and show you businesses and I'll show you where the needs are and I'll direct you there and I'll finance you on the way But I can't.
Brian Green
I love this investor. Yeah, Tell me, how do I get a hold of this guy? Where Do I send my pitch deck.
Chris Hoadley
To my full job?
Brian Green
This is like a holy Mark Cuban. We need this.
Chris Hoadley
With debt hanging over your head with someone else as the lord of your finances.
Brian Green
Me, debt? That's me.
Chris Hoadley
Very, very dangerous. But I agree, particularly if you don't know.
Brian Green
You can't think of something to say. He's like, well, what is the next words that's supposed to come out of my mouth?
Chris Hoadley
Be careful here, Kenny, to whom you are indebted. Okay, you think you're indebted to the.
Joy Hoadley
Bank, but it's the mom.
Chris Hoadley
Do you know the banker?
Brian Green
It's the mafia.
Chris Hoadley
Do you know the demons in his life? Do you know what that bank supports? If you owe that bank, you're supporting it. For these things in the spirit are extremely dangerous.
Brian Green
Very dangerous.
Chris Hoadley
Very dangerous.
Brian Green
Dangerous.
Chris Hoadley
You have people in your life, demons, devils that you have no idea.
Brian Green
I'm your banker, and I support devil worship. Welcome to bank of America. Where would you like your burning cross? Oh, Kenny, by golly, you're hot today, Kenny. Oh, good old Kenny. Nothing lifts you up like a Kenny Copeland sermon.
Joy Hoadley
Makes you laugh.
Brian Green
Seriously, find a better place to put your money. Put it in crypto. I hear that's doing okay.
Joy Hoadley
Well, you know, Trump just pardoned the. Some. Some coin guy.
Brian Green
Yeah, the guy who ripped off like billions and billions of dollars from people. That's right, the Zhao guy or whatever his name was. So, you know, we're well on our way. Prosperity and freedom. He's gonna do it again. That's Silk Road guy. Sam Bankman Freed is next. I guarantee it. I guarantee it because Sam has money somewhere and he can give it to Trump. And that's what's going to happen. Yep. So it's all for sale. I told you kids, it's all for sale. Keep your eye on the ball. They distract you with this while they're doing that. That's the how it works. That's how it's always worked. By the way. There's nothing new under the sun. It's just now. Very transparent, very apparent. Yeah, yeah. Okay. All right. Anyway, we hope you are doing okay. We hope you will get through this difficult financial time like the rest of us. And we love you. I can't give you any money, but I love you and you have my support. Best wishes.
Joy Hoadley
Yeah.
Brian Green
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You went on vacation.
Brian Green
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Hosts: Bryan Green, Krissy Hoadley, Joy Hoadley
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This episode of The Commercial Break takes aim at prosperity gospel televangelists—especially the notorious Kenneth Copeland—and their extravagant lifestyles, all while many in their congregations face real financial hardship. Bryan and Krissy riff improvised, biting commentary as they play through a recent Copeland “debt-free living” sermon. The episode moves between relatable discussion about the cost of living and a dismantling of “give to get rich” theology, all delivered with the show’s signature irreverent, rapid-fire banter.
“Most of us live paycheck to paycheck... it’s hard to put two months together in a row where you feel comfortable with money.” – Bryan (05:37)
“If Jesus taught us one thing and one thing only, it’s to speak his word and ask for money at the same time.” – Bryan (08:13)
“He’s a bank teller for the Lord. He’s an ATM for the Lord. But it only goes one way. In, not out.” – Bryan on Kenneth Copeland (10:48)
Hosts ridicule televangelists’ multiple private planes, Rolexes, and mansions:
“Who am I to judge you buying that eighth Rolex? Who among us?” – Bryan (11:17)
The hypocrisy is sharply called out:
“If you saw somebody else doing that… you would probably consider them a dirt bag. But if you open up the Bible and you start speaking some mumbo jumbo… then it makes sense. Don’t, don’t fall for this scam, because that’s exactly what it is.” – Bryan (13:02)
Copeland on self-generated wealth:
“Don’t be looking to no wallet outside yourself. Just habity dabbity wishity pishity on it and it'll come to you. Now give me a thousand doll– oh, thank you, Jesus.” – Bryan, mocking Copeland (26:24)
Copeland’s logic:
“Take your receipts that you've sown to the church... and multiply it by 10. Because when you do that, you're going to realize you haven't given enough. That's why you're not rich.” – Bryan’s parody of Copeland (28:46)
“If you have $50,000 in the bank, then you don’t have any money.” – Copeland (33:26, commented incredulously on by the hosts)
The episode is fast, furious, and unapologetically biting in its satire of get-rich-through-giving theology. Its heart shows through as Bryan and Krissy drop the act occasionally to voice concern for people exploited by religious conmen. The laughter (and swearing) is as much catharsis as comedy. The absurdity of “prosperity gospel” is laid bare, offering listeners both an escape and a warning against magical financial thinking.
Summary compiled in the same irreverent, rapid-fire spirit as the original pod. Best to you, podcast universe.