Rundown -

Intro - 00:35

Judge Bob Orr in Craig's Lawyers' Lounge - 14:45

Troubadour Dave Gunders - 01:25:44

"It Hurts Me Too" by Dave Gunders - 01:41:16

Outro - 01:47:11

Prominent North Carolina Republican mainstay and NC Supreme Court Justice Bob Orr returns to show (Ep. 88) with his home state in the headlines. NC Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson is a hot MAGA mess, and Hurricane Helene has just wreaked havoc.

Bob Orr ran for Governor in North Carolina as a Republican in 2008. The GOP was different then. After his celebrated exit in 2016 at the Cleveland GOP national convention, Orr has led the Never Trump movement.

https://www.youtube.com/live/gu_xkKuGguM

Now, Bob Orr is an asset for the Harris-Walz campaign in the key state of North Carolina. Find out how that happened. He’s a principled North Carolina conservative who loves the law and calls out racism and misogyny.

https://www.citizen-times.com/videos/news/local/elections/2024/09/18/longtime-republican-speaks-at-walz-rally-denounces-gop/75280599007/

Bob knows Appalachia but is not impressed by JD Vance. He is impressed by Governor Tim Walz, with whom he interacted. The guest and host mainly admire Kamala Harris's talented attorney skills. We wonder about the bigotry of people who call her dumb.

We remember Al Campanis in 1987: “They may not have some of the necessities.” And Dan Caplis from Denver Unified Reich Trump Radio on 9.24.24: “There is some kind of impairment with her (Kamala Harris) and I can't diagnose it from the outside. There’s something that renders her unable to do the things necessary to be president.”

MAGA propaganda is horrific, especially when it comes from the United States Supreme Court. We discuss how the Rule of Law is now on the line and some special statutes in NC that may allow its GOP super-majority to make mischief.

Israel’s pounding of Hezbollah in Beirut was discussed as Benjamin Netanyahu delivered his speech at the United Nations in New York. The world's nations are not too united, and Army vet Bob Orr discussed his military service. Does Bibi have clean hands?

Mitt Romney now fears retribution and may leave America if Trump is elected. Bob Orr asked about fears of retribution. Trump has told all Jews, Catholics, and seniors that their heads should be examined if we vote against him. Lord, help us.

Troubadour Dave Gunders brings his cover of Elmore James’ blues song “It Hurts Me Too.” Hurt people hurt other people, and we discuss why Netanyahu and Donald Trump do the things they do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvqprTLcApI