Episode Description:
In this episode of The Crisis in Education Podcast, Dr. Paulie sits down with behavior analyst and education expert Steve Ward to discuss practical strategies for supporting teachers and students—especially those with special needs—while highlighting lessons that apply to all classrooms.

They dive into the critical role of assent and assent withdrawal, exploring how these concepts can be observed, measured, and taught to both teachers and parents. Steve emphasizes the importance of respecting a learner's right to say "no" and, more importantly, how to reintroduce expectations in ways that build trust, confidence, and engagement.

The conversation also challenges traditional approaches to learning by making a compelling case for expanding fun—particularly social fun—as a primary goal. By prioritizing enjoyment and meaningful interactions, educators can create positive ripple effects that go far beyond preparing students to complete tasks.

Tune in to learn actionable strategies, from fluency-building formats to incorporating games and routines, that help turn novelty and unpredictability into opportunities for growth. Whether you're a teacher, parent, or school leader, this episode offers insights you can apply right away to make learning more effective and enjoyable for all students.

More on Steve
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Articles
https://www.archivesofpsychology.org/index.php/aop/article/view/82
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5352626/
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03393050

Webinars
https://www.eventbrite.com/o/cabs-autism-and-behavior-specialists-34162179949

Podcasts

Trauma-Informed Care, Assent, and Compassion - A Call for Nuance in ABA

Trauma Informed Care: Some ThingsYou Should Know

Punishment on Trial in Behavior Analysis

Assent and Compliance: When to Use Which

How to Help Individuals with Anxiety: Session 187 with Steve Ward

The Case for Humor in Behavioral Interventions: Session 111 with Steve Ward

Teaching Kids with Autism Games and Leisure Activities: Interview with Steve Ward

Book links
Teaching Good Learner Repertoires
What You Need to Know about Motivation and Teaching Games: An in

Building Assent, Fun, and Trust: Supporting Teachers and Students in Special Education with Steve Ward