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Brian Maucere, Beth Lyons, Andy Halliday, and Anne Murphy open with a discussion about whether AI agents are actually cost-effective once token usage, efficiency, and governance are taken into account. That leads into ClickUp’s workforce cuts and a broader conversation about workforce substitution, job loss, and how work shapes identity and meaning. In the back half, the group shifts into practical tools and culture, including a Zero to Claude learning resource, the term “AI pilled,” Grok V9, and new Google features like Ask YouTube and Ask Maps. The episode stays grounded in how AI changes both business operations and everyday human behavior.

Key Points Discussed

00:02:30 AI Agents, Tokens, and Efficiency

00:09:30 ClickUp’s Layoffs and 3,000 Agents

00:24:13 AI Job Loss, Identity, and Meaning

00:37:48 Zero to Claude and Retired Builders

00:42:55 The “AI Pilled” Mindset

00:49:37 Grok V9 and Quick AI Closers

00:55:59 Ask YouTube and Ask Maps