Allow Me To Retort (feat. Mayor Karen Bass; Adam Klasfeld)

Summary

The Daily Beans – Episode: "Allow Me To Retort" (feat. Mayor Karen Bass & Adam Klasfeld) Release Date: June 12, 2025

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Daily Beans, hosts Alison Gill and Dana Goldberg delve into a multitude of pressing political and social issues with their characteristic blend of progressive insight and sharp wit. The episode features insightful discussions with Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass and Adam Klasfeld from All Rise News, alongside comprehensive analyses of recent legal battles, polling data, and significant court verdicts.

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Legal Proceedings Against Donald Trump

Trump's Legal Maneuvers The episode opens with a deep dive into former President Donald Trump's ongoing legal battles. Alison Gill explains that Trump's new legal team is attempting to relocate his 34 felony counts from state to federal court:

Alison Gill [03:20]: "I personally think it's because he has a better shot at overturning this conviction with the Supreme Court than he does with the New York State Supreme Court."

Dana Goldberg adds her perspective on Trump's motives:

Dana Goldberg [03:25]: "I think the no-brainer on why would be so he can pardon himself."

However, Alison counters this by clarifying legal limitations:

Alison Gill [03:36]: "He can't pardon himself because the conviction is in New York."

The hosts discuss the strategic implications of this move, emphasizing the complexities of jurisdiction and the potential for appealing to the Supreme Court.

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Governor Gavin Newsom's Lawsuit

Characterizing the Lawsuit Governor Newsom's lawsuit against Trump's administration is a focal point of the discussion. The Department of Justice (DOJ) has labeled the lawsuit as a "crass political stunt," a sentiment strongly contested by the hosts.

Alison Gill [08:12]: "It’s unprecedented because no president in his right mind would deploy troops to arrest United States citizens."

Alison methodically dismantles the DOJ's arguments, highlighting the constitutional and practical dangers of deploying the military against civilians:

Alison Gill [08:20]: "All the dangerous shit is deploying them to otherwise peaceful places to kick up violence as a pretext to invoke the Insurrection Act."

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Predator Drones Over Los Angeles

Surveillance and ICE Operations The discussion shifts to concerns about Customs and Border Protection (CBP) deploying Predator drones over Los Angeles in support of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE):

Alison Gill [12:08]: "CBP has confirmed it's flying Predator drones above Los Angeles protests in support of ICE."

Dana underscores the invasive nature of this surveillance:

Dana Goldberg [13:31]: "It's exactly what it is."

Alison elaborates on the implications, suggesting broader uses beyond official statements:

Alison Gill [13:45]: "What do you want to bet that's not all they're being used for?"

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Quinnipiac Poll: Declining Approval for Trump

Shifting Public Sentiment A new Quinnipiac poll reveals a significant decline in Trump's approval ratings across various issues, reflecting growing public discontent:

• Overall Approval: 38% approve, 57% disapprove
• Immigration Issues: 43% approve, 54% disapprove
• Economy: 40% approve, 56% disapprove
• Israel-Hamas Conflict: 35% approve, 52% disapprove

Dana Goldberg [16:44]: "He is still fighting tooth and nail and he has deployed the weight and force of the federal government."

The hosts interpret these numbers as indicators of waning support and the potential impact on Trump's political standing.

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Indictment of Representative Lamonica McIver

Political Intimidation Claims Representative Lamonica McIver, a Democrat from New Jersey, has been unjustly indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of forcibly impeding federal law enforcement:

Dana Goldberg [14:17]: "While people are free to express their views for or against particular policies, they must not do so in a manner that endangers law enforcement and the communities those officers serve."

Alison Gill expresses skepticism about the rapid indictment process:

Alison Gill [14:44]: "Three weeks from her arrest to indictment by a federal grand jury. Three weeks. That took three weeks to get an indictment."

She draws parallels to similar cases, questioning the integrity of the grand jury's proceedings.

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Harvey Weinstein's Guilty Verdict

Progress in High-Profile Case The episode covers the significant development in Harvey Weinstein's legal saga, with a Manhattan jury finding him guilty on one sex crime charge:

Dana Goldberg [18:28]: "He will die in prison. That's the good news of this story."

Alison acknowledges the complexity of the case, noting that Weinstein still faces ongoing deliberations for additional charges:

Alison Gill [18:37]: "Regardless of their eventual verdict on the rape charge, Weinstein faces up to 25 years in prison when he is sentenced."

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In-Depth Interviews

Mayor Karen Bass on Los Angeles' Situation

Militarization Missteps In a candid interview, Mayor Karen Bass addresses the unnecessary deployment of National Guard troops in Los Angeles:

Adam Klassfeld [22:18]: "The mission of the National Guard is to protect the federal building, period."

She criticizes the federal overreach and emphasizes the city's capability to handle local issues without military intervention:

Mayor Karen Bass [27:23]: "The city is keeping Angelenos safe, regardless of who they are, where they came from, when they got here, or why."

Bass also touches upon the broader implications of military presence in civilian areas, advocating for peaceful and community-centered solutions.

Adam Klasfeld on Trump's Legal Strategy

Federal vs. State Jurisdiction Adam Klasfeld provides a detailed analysis of Trump's attempt to shift legal proceedings to federal court, examining the tactical motivations and potential outcomes:

Adam Klasfeld [32:44]: "So whatever the result of this appeal, there's a long road of appeals. This is on a highly technical issue over which jurisdiction is going to hear the fate of Trump's 34 felony convictions."

He further discusses the role of DOJ officials supporting Trump, raising questions about impartiality and legal ethics.

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Good News Stories

Community Highlights and Listener Contributions The hosts conclude the episode on a positive note, sharing uplifting stories and listener submissions that highlight community resilience and personal achievements:

• Listener Lily from Kansas shares her excitement over starting a mini garden and her pet cats.

  Dana Goldberg [49:19]: "For my good news, I started a mini garden this summer on my balcony."

• Ashley Pronoun discusses a successful town hall held by the American Anthropological Association, fostering solidarity amidst challenges in academia.

• Bonnie Brought Down from Los Angeles appreciates the podcast's unbiased storytelling and shares adorable photos of her rescued cats and a hummingbird feeder.

These segments emphasize the importance of community support and personal well-being amidst turbulent times.

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Conclusion

Alison Gill and Dana Goldberg wrap up the episode by inviting listeners to engage with the podcast through good news submissions and participation in upcoming events like Drag Queen Bingo. They encourage community interaction and highlight the transformative power of collective action and joyous experiences as forms of resistance against prevailing challenges.

Alison Gill [61:54]: "Every little thing that we do is magic."

The episode exemplifies The Daily Beans' commitment to delivering comprehensive news coverage infused with progressive values and a touch of humor, ensuring listeners are both informed and uplifted.

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Notable Quotes:

• Alison Gill [08:20]: "All the dangerous shit is deploying them to otherwise peaceful places to kick up violence as a pretext to invoke the Insurrection Act."
• Dana Goldberg [14:17]: "While people are free to express their views for or against particular policies, they must not do so in a manner that endangers law enforcement and the communities those officers serve."
• Dana Goldberg [18:28]: "He will die in prison. That's the good news of this story."
• Mayor Karen Bass [27:23]: "The city is keeping Angelenos safe, regardless of who they are, where they came from, when they got here, or why."

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Transcript

[Alison Gill]

MSW Media. Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Thursday, June 12, 2025. Today, Trump's new lawyers are arguing at the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals to move his 34 felony counts to federal court. Trump's DOJ calls Governor Newsom's lawsuit a crass political stunt. And irony immediately died. Customs and Border Protection confirms it's flying Predator drones over Los Angeles. A new Quinnipiac poll shows Trump's approval is sliding considerably across all issues. Trump and Kegseth screened military audience members for loyalty and weight prior to his speech at Fort Liberty. I refuse to call it Fort Bragg. Representative Lamonica McIver has been wrongfully indicted by a federal grand jury. And a Manhattan jury has found Harvey Weinstein guilty on sex crimes charges on Wednesday. I'm Alison Gill.

[Dana Goldberg]

And I'm Dana Goldberg.

[Alison Gill]

Hello. Hello. Happy Thursday, my friend.

[Dana Goldberg]

And to you. We made it past the taint and we are headed to the end of the week. Things are kind of shitty out there, everyone, and we're gonna try and make them a little less shitty for. And that's what we do. We try and do it. And I think we do it successfully most days.

[Alison Gill]

I think so as well. And one of the non shitty things, one of the absolutely fantastic things that we can do is go to Instagram and watch Dana's Gay of the Day. Who is it today, Dana?

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, today, as you're listening to this is blues brilliant singer Gladys Bentley. And what I love about Gladys is Gladys actually was trying to get a job at a gay bar called the Clam House, which is the best fucking name for a gay bar. And they were looking for a male piano player. And even though she had been like wearing suits and stuff a lot of her life, she started dressing in her tux, in her top hat, and became the most successful piano player there they've ever had. And the story goes on from there. But you're going to want to check out the episode today. We had James Baldwin. Everyone loved that. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you might be new to the pod or maybe you just missed some episodes, but I'm doing a Gay of the Day for the entire month of Pride. All my LGBTQ heroes, past and present. And for those of you who've been watching and sharing them, you rock. For those of you that are not with me on Instagram, follow me at DG Comedy because I'd love to have you.

[Alison Gill]

We would love that too. These are just the best. I love that you're doing this. So thank you, my friend. Also, later in the show today, I'm gonna be speaking with Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass.

[Dana Goldberg]

Amazing.

[Alison Gill]

About what's going on on the ground in Los Angeles which isn't really anything except a bunch of fucking soldiers standing around doing nothing. And we're to talk about that. And I'm also going to talk to Adam Klassfeld from All Rise News about Trump's efforts to move his 34 felony counts to federal court. And we discuss why he might be doing that and why he wants to do it quickly. Probably we don't know what's inside his brain. We can't because it's addled with stage three syphilis. But.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yes, but I mean I think the no brainer on why would be so he can pardon himself.

[Alison Gill]

Well, he can't. He's moving his appeal to. On the immunity evidence stuff. So he can't pardon himself because the conviction is in New York.

[Dana Goldberg]

Okay. So that can't be changed to a federal conviction.

[Alison Gill]

Right? It can't be changed to a federal conviction. But. But the appeals can go through the federal court. I personally think it's because I think he has a better shot overturning this conviction with the Supreme Court than he does with. With New York State Supreme Court.

[Dana Goldberg]

Ah, that makes sense. Thank you for teaching me more law.

[Alison Gill]

Which. Which by the way isn't. Ironically, it's not called the New York State Supreme Court. The Supreme Court in New York is the lower court and huh. The middle court is the appellate division and the Supreme Court in New York is actually called the appeals court.

[Dana Goldberg]

So that's really funny. The Supreme Court's the lowest one. And then we go meh. The meh court. That's the middle one.

[Alison Gill]

They're okay.

[Dana Goldberg]

They're actually the best one.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah. It's like some regular court judge was like I want to be called supreme. And they were like, all right, fine.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right, fine.

[Alison Gill]

They just have to go their own way there in New York.

[Dana Goldberg]

Leave it to a New Yorker.

[Alison Gill]

Yep. Probably someone from Brooklyn. Like, hey, we're supreme.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, yeah, but you're third in line. I don't give a fuck.

[Alison Gill]

Online. Your third online in New York. And also we're going to be talking about the fact that we're going to go live substack live on All Rise News. Adam Klassfeld and I tomorrow because there is a detention hearing in the Abrego Garcia case.

[Dana Goldberg]

Okay.

[Alison Gill]

This is to decide. It's in Tennessee. He's flying out there. Adam Clausfeld is flying out there with all rise News to attend that hearing. And that's to determine whether or not Abreco Garcia will be held without bail pending his trial on these idiotic trumped up charges. Also, there's a new filing in the Boberg case. This is the original jgg, the one where he wants criminal contempt against the government. The one for the rest of everybody else at seot, including the gay stylist to Andre Hernandez.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yep.

[Alison Gill]

And just everyone else who's left at Seacoat. And because Wednesday the 11th, the. The government was supposed to tell him how they intended to facilitate due process for everybody there.

[Dana Goldberg]

Wow.

[Alison Gill]

Because Boasberg determined that they all need to get due process.

[Dana Goldberg]

Right.

[Alison Gill]

And so instead of turning that in on the 11th, they filed a motion to stay that ruling and that order. And they are actually arguing that the government will suffer harm if you don't stop this.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, my God.

[Alison Gill]

From going forward and that the people in Seacoat will not suffer any harm. It's just absolutely ridiculous. And we're going to go over that, Andy McCabe and I, in detail on this weekend's Unjustified podcast. Everything you need to know about the Bozberg Alien Enemies act, these kidnapping, disappearing people to foreign gulags, third countries like South Sudan. We talk about the Abrego Garcia case. All of that we're going to go over on Unjustified this weekend.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right. And by the way, the entire board tasked with overseeing the State Department's Fulbright scholarship program, they have all resigned, all of them claiming political interference from the Trump administration. So the board actually voted overwhelmingly to resign rather than endorse unprecedented actions in impermissible under the law. Good for them.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah. I mean, it's sad that we're losing the entire Fulbright scholarship.

[Dana Goldberg]

I agree. But I mean, but this is what you.

[Alison Gill]

This is how. I mean, this is how I would respond.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Alison Gill]

To, you know, double barrel, middle fingers out, out the door.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yep.

[Karen Bass]

Pock.

[Dana Goldberg]

I know.

[Alison Gill]

Despicable. Well, thanks for that bit of information.

[Dana Goldberg]

I mean, I still keep saying I knew it was gonna be bad. I just didn't know it was gonna be this bad. I mean, this is just. Everything that's happening is pretty disgusting.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah. And we knew the second hundred days would be first and the worst. So worse than the first third verse. Same as the first.

[Dana Goldberg]

Boop, boop.

[Alison Gill]

Anyway, we have a lot of news to get to today and a couple of really important interviews, and the listeners submitted good news at the end. So let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right. There's a hearing today, Thursday, in Federal court to determine whether a temporary block should be placed on the president's deployment of the military and National Guard to California. As we know, California Attorney General Rob Bonta sued on behalf of the state and Governor Newsom, calling the deployment unlawful. Trump did file an opposition to the lawsuit on Wednesday. And Kyle Cheney at Politico says the Trump administration is urging a federal judge to reject California Governor Gavin Newsom's bid to block the military from supporting immigration enforcement activities in Los Angeles. Calling the lawsuit. Trump calls Gavin Newsom's lawsuit a crass political stunt and warning that the restraining order Newsom wants would endanger federal personnel.

[Dana Goldberg]

No.

[Alison Gill]

Mm. The Department of Justice says it would be unprecedented, it would be constitutionally anathema, and it would be dangerous. Well, allow me to retort.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yes, please.

[Alison Gill]

It's unprecedented because no president in his right mind would deploy troops to arrest United States citizens. That's what makes it unprecedented.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's right.

[Alison Gill]

Second, what Newsom is requesting is not constitutionally anathema. Let me define anathema for the Trump.

[Dana Goldberg]

And for Dana, if you don't mind.

[Alison Gill]

And for Trump lawyers and for Dana. It's something that someone vehemently dislikes.

[Dana Goldberg]

Ah.

[Alison Gill]

And I guarantee you the Constitution does not vehemently dislike a colorable legal argument. What the Constitution hates vehemently as well as the people who wrote the Constitution, what they hate vehemently is a fucking dictator mobilizing the military against the people. And third, it would be dangerous. How is removing the military from the streets of an American city dangerous? The only dangerous shit is deploying them to otherwise peaceful places to kick up violence as a pretext to invoke the Insurrection act for no reason other than to jail peaceful dissidents. And as far as a crass political stunt, talk about, I don't know, Pol Pot calling the kettle black. Trump and his drunk ass Secretary of Defense using troops as pawns to create propaganda videos is a crass political stunt. Filing a lawsuit questioning a dictator's authority to deploy the Guard and an authority that is supposed to come from the governor's office is not a crass political stunt. It's the right thing to do. And I'll be talking to Mayor Karen Bass about all this a bit later in the show.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, I saw a video on Instagram. You know, you got people on the ground with cameras, and there was a line of cops, I guess, that had their rubber bullets. And there was a young girl just trying to get past them very slowly to get to her apartment. And thank God this other young woman was filming the whole thing. They shot her point blank with a rubber bullet for doing nothing. Tell her to get off the sidewalk, which is a public. And then they wouldn't even let. Yeah, go ahead.

[Alison Gill]

Then they threatened the woman who was giving her medical aid.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, it was insane. I'm glad people are documenting this. That's the stuff that we need to see.

[Alison Gill]

Yes, that is exactly right. And it's going to take the citizens of this country, this citizens media, to get this information out because the corporate media is not covering it, Right?

[Dana Goldberg]

Yep. And this one happens to be from Military.com talking about using the troops as propaganda. It was supposed to be a routine appearance, a visit from the commander in chief to rally the troops, boost morale and celebrate the Army's 250th birthday week, which culminates with the Washington, D.C. parade slated for Saturday. All this starting to sound familiar. Everybody instead would unfold a Tuesday at Fort Liberty. And like we said, we're not calling this Fort Bragg. Fort Liberty in North Carolina. It bore little resemblance to the customary visit from a president and defense secretary. Shocking. There, Donald unleashed a speech laced with partisan invective, goading jeers from a crowd of soldiers positioned behind his podium, blurring the long standing and sacrosanct line between the military and partisan politics. They may as well just hired actors, but they didn't. Internal 82nd Airborne Division actually, I shouldn't say that. I don't know if they did or not. Internal 82nd Airborne Division communications reviewed by Military.com reveal a tightly orchestrated effort to curate the optics of Trump's visit that day in including hand picking the soldiers for the audience based on political leanings and physical appearance. One unit level messaged bluntly saying, and I quote, no fat soldiers. If soldiers, and this is a quote, if soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the current administration and they don't want to be in the audience, then they need to speak with their leadership and get swapped out. That was another note to the troops. One commander at FortLiberty told Military.com on the condition of anonymity to avoid retaliation. Obviously, they said this has been a bad week for the Army. For anyone who cares about us being a neutral institution, this was shameful. I don't expect anything to come out of it, but I hope maybe we can learn from it in long term.

[Alison Gill]

Wow. That was a commander at Fort Liberty. All right, next up from 404 Media who is killing it lately, by the way, Customs and Border Protection has confirmed it's flying Predator drones above the Los Angeles protests and specifically in support of ICE, according to a CBP statement sent to 404 Media. The statement follows 404 Media's reporting that the Department of Homeland Security has flown two Predator drones above Los Angeles, according to flight data and air traffic control audio. The statement is the first time CBP has acknowledged the existence of these drone flights, which over the weekend were done without call sign, making it more difficult, but not impossible to determine what model of aircraft was used and by which agency it. So they did try to cover this up, by the way, so they know it's fucking wrong. That's called consciousness of guilt. It is also the first time CBP has said it is using the drones to help ICE during the protests. What do you want to bet that's not all they're being used for? Quote, air and Marine Operations. MQ9 Predators are supporting our federal law enforcement partners in the greater Los Angeles area, including ice, with aerial support of their operations. That's the statement from CBP to 404 Media. The statement added, they are providing officer safety surveillance when requested by officers. AMO is not engaged in the surveillance of First Amendment activities. Okay, so that means they are.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Alison Gill]

According to flight Data reviewed by 404 Media, the drones flew repeatedly above Paramount, where the weekend's anti ICE protest started, and downtown Los Angeles, where much of the protest activity moved to. So that's eye in the sky.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, it's exactly what it is. Next up, this is from NBC. Rep. Lamonica McIver. She's a Democrat from New Jersey. She was indicted Tuesday. Well, this is insane. This story is ridiculous. On federal charges stemming from a confrontation with law enforcement at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in Newark last month, the interim U.S. attorney for New Jersey, that's Alina Haba, said on Twitter that a federal grand jury indicted MacGyver on three counts of, quote, forcibly impeding and interfering with federal law enforcement officers.

[Karen Bass]

Officers.

[Dana Goldberg]

While people are free to express their views for or against particular policies, they must not do so in a manner that endangers law enforcement and the communities those officers serve. That is haba. Now, McIver called the legal proceedings, quote, a brazen attempt at political intimidation and said she will plead not guilty. McIver was indicted three weeks after the Justice Department filed charges, accusing of assaulting law enforcement at an ICE facility in Newark.

[Alison Gill]

Three weeks from her arrest to indictment by federal grand jury. Three weeks. That took three weeks to get an indictment. And I just want to point something out that no one else in the media is pointing out right now. Not at least that I can see the arrest of the mayor, Ras Baraka, same incident May 9th. He was arrested. Couple days later, he was indicted by a federal grand jury. And then by May 21, 12 days after his arrest, those charges were dropped. And then he sued in the beginning of June. This indictment took three weeks. And I have questions about this. How many grand juries did they take this to before they secured charges? Did they shop this around? You know, I remember my co host on unjustified, Andy McCabe. It came out that Bill Barr went to two different federal grand juries trying to get an indictment against him and failed both times. So they, they, they shop grand juries just like they shop judges. Unbelievable the fact that this took three weeks. I am waiting for somebody to report how many federal grand juries they went to. Yeah, maybe they impaneled their own. I'm not sure. All right, let's end with a couple of good news stories. A new Quinnipiac poll is out. Voters were asked about Trump's handling of seven issues. For immigration issues, only 43% approve. 54% disapprove. For deportations, only 40% approve. 56% disapprove. On the economy, 40% approve. 56% disapprove. On trade, 38% approve. 57% disapprove. On universities, 37% approve. 54% disapprove. And on the Israel Hamas conflict, 35% approve. 52% disability disapprove. And on the Russia, Ukraine war, Russia's war against Ukraine, 34% approve. While 57% disapprove. Overall, his approval rating is now down to 38%.

[Dana Goldberg]

I think that's what I had said. There was, what was the percentage of, I think the, the health score that his golf course got in New Jersey? I said his, his approval ratings right down about there. I think it was 37%. Yeah, that's about right.

[Alison Gill]

You called it.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yep. We've got more good news, by the way. Manhattan jury found Harvey Weinstein guilty. That son of a bitch. And I'm just going to say it, not even say an SOB they found him guilty on a sex crime charge on Wednesday. Though the jury has not yet reached a verdict on all counts. The former movie mogul's faces in deliberations that have been marred by infighting and threats. Weinstein, one of the most powerful figures in Hollywood. Used to be. Is facing a retrial after state appeals court last year overturned his 2020 conviction. He was accused by prosecut in the case of raping an aspiring actress and assaulting two other women. Weinstein, 73, pleaded not guilty and has denied assaulting anyone or having non consensual sex, which is just insane. The jury found Weinstein guilty on one of the three counts that he faced, which stemmed from his alleged assault of former production assistant Miriam Haley in 2006. The jury found Weinstein not guilty of a charge stemming from his alleged assault on Kaja Sokola in 2002 when she was only 16 years old at time, the time an aspiring actress. The jury has not yet reached a verdict on the third count, which charges him with raping aspiring actress Jessica Mann in 2013. They will resume deliberations on that count on Thursday. Regardless of their eventual verdict on the rape charge, Weinstein faces up to 25 years in prison when he is sentenced. He has separately been sentenced to 16 years in prison following a rape conviction in California that has not been overturned.

[Alison Gill]

Mm. Yeah, this is a retrial, like you said, of the conviction that was overturned in New York. So love this for him.

[Dana Goldberg]

He will die in prison. That's the good news of this story.

[Alison Gill]

That's the good news, right? I know it's a weird. It's weird to say here's a good news story, but it is. And I hope he. I hope he rots under the jail.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, me too.

[Alison Gill]

All right, everybody, it's time for some good trouble.

[Karen Bass]

What are you guys doing?

[Alison Gill]

All right, we have another snitch line to subvert, and this one is for people to submit instances of assaults against federal officers in Los Angeles. We have a link in the show notes. And if you do use this form, you do not have to fill out any of the personal information. Name, email, phone number. You just have to fill out the description and upload a file. You do have to upload a file. And you have to check the I'm not a robot box. Gosh, I wonder why they need an I'm not a robot box on their snitch lines. I submitted photos of my cats, so be sure to clear the metadata from your photos or files if you can basically just go to Google and search how to clear the metadata from your files if you want to upload those. But yeah, all the assaults on federal officers in Los Angeles, maybe just hit them with a bunch of videos of officers assaulting civilians. Anyway, I think that we can overwhelm this particular snitch line like we have so many times before because y' all are so awesome.

[Dana Goldberg]

Seriously, you rock.

[Alison Gill]

All right. And to talk about what's happening on the ground in Los Angeles. Like which I said, which is pretty much nothing. It's just a bunch of military guys standing around outside a federal building with nobody else there. I'll be speaking with Mayor Karen Bass right after this quick break, so stick around. We'll be right back after these messages.

[Dana Goldberg]

We'll be right back.

[Alison Gill]

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[Adam Klassfeld]

I am doing just fine. How are you?

[Alison Gill]

I'm doing okay. Thank you for asking. I know you're incredibly busy, so I appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to speak with us today. I know the Associated Press is now reporting that National Guard members are already detaining civilians on the ground awaiting arrest by ICE or other law enforcement officers. Can you tell us a little bit about the most updated information you have about what's going on on the ground in Los Angeles?

[Adam Klassfeld]

Well, yes, I can tell you that that's the first I've heard that. So I'm gonna have to confirm that. My understanding and what I have seen so far on the streets and is that the mission of the National Guard is to protect the federal building, period. And there has not been people rushing or running and trying to get into the federal building. So I don't know why the National Guard would be detaining anyone.

[Alison Gill]

Right. And I don't think that there's any authority as it stands right now to. Well, first of all, to be there. Let's be real.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Then there's that.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah, they shouldn't even be there. And there's going to be a hearing today about the lawsuit brought by Attorney General Bonta on behalf of our governor. And I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you calling this out and being there on the ground. I know you're moving from place to place on the ground there in Los Angeles because as opposed to what the President would like everyone to believe, there is no need for the National Guard. There's no need for the Marines. Everything is peaceful. Los Angeles is handling any tiny little bits of problems on their own. The law enforcement is handling it. And. And we're well equipped to handle that on the ground ourselves.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Absolutely. I mean, there was never a need for the federal government to come in and take power away from our governor and take over the National Guard. We have a fine relationship between the city and the governor. And if we had needed the National Guard, number one, we would not have hesitated in asking for the help. And two, I'm sure he would not hesitate in granting what we needed to keep our city safe. So to have the National Guard here as federal soldiers guarding one building is beyond an overreach. Now, the idea that we would have Marines here, Marines who are trained in fighting war on foreign land, do not have the power to arrest, do not have experience in crowd control. You're setting up a situation that could be quite dangerous.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah. And what's interesting is that the government, the Department of Justice under Trump, is calling Gavin Newsom's lawsuit dangerous when, in fact, I'm with you. I think the danger comes from the kind of escalation that could come from all of these federal agents and military and National Guard on the streets. I've seen video of the federal building, and they're all just standing out there, and there's nobody there.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Right, right. And, you know, when there are protests, of course that's the focal point. But when there are protests, the National Guard being there. Okay, fine. But that is their sole mission right now.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah. And do you think. I mean. Cause we're gonna see some protests. Nationwide, almost 2,000 peaceful protests for the no Kings marches this Saturday. What's the city doing to prepare for that? I'm sure same thing they always do to prepare for peaceful protests.

[Adam Klassfeld]

And that's the point. We are a city of 3.8 million people. Our city spans 500 square mil. These protests occupy about five streets in the downtown area. But if you were to look at national news, you would think that the entire city has exploded. It's just not the case. And so, to me, to introduce troops, the soldiers, you know, with the National Guard is really just a provocative measure that is going to make our city very, very angry. If their sole mission is to guard that one building and no one has been trying to rush the building or there are any problems like that, then the point is, what do they need it for? And you have the military now scheduled to come in. Do you realize if all of the troops that have been called up actually come here, that there would be more federal troops in Los Angeles than in Iraq right now? I mean, it's just an example of how it is not needed. I have no idea what the soldiers would do. Soldiers, Marines are trained for war. They are trained to fight people, to kill people on foreign soil. They do not do arrests. They do not do crowd control. So it is a recipe for disaster if there was interaction between the Marines and the public.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah, agreed. And we know what the governor's doing. We know what the attorney general's doing. What steps is the city taking and the mayor's office taking to. I mean, you know, you're already doing your job, so, like, I don't know what other further steps there would need to be taken, but I know you're there on the ground, and I think that that's important.

[Adam Klassfeld]

The city is keeping Angelenos safe, regardless of who they are, where they came from, when they got here, or why so we're doing our best there. We are fortunate in Los Angeles to have a very well established, very well respected immigrant rights institutions and working with them and trying to be helpful. And of course, they're our primary way we are learning about raids. The federal government is not notifying us when they're going to go into a property. So we rely on the immigrant rights network to communicate with us.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah, and I've been seeing that pop up quite a bit so that you are made aware of it ahead of time. It just feels like an invasion from our own government.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Well, I mean, it's a double sided invasion. It's a triple invasion. It's an invasion with ice, the Marines and the National Guard.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah, I agree.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Now, I do have to tell you that last Thursday, before the raids, this city was peaceful. There was nothing going on here at all. Anything that happened, any massive protest, any looting, any vandalism was after the raids took place. And that I hope you know that we will not tolerate vandalism, violence or illegal behavior. I instituted a curfew last night to enforce that. We have been very, very clear around that. And I've also been clear that the people that are looting and vandalizing buildings and they're not doing it on behalf of immigration, they're doing it on behalf of themselves. And I think that that is terrible to try to hijack a noble cause, a cause that is so much in the DNA of Los Angeles and to turn it into just mayhem, which is what it was.

[Alison Gill]

Right. And it's also, like you've said, it's so important to point out that this is such a small number, these incidents are such so small in number that the actual danger is coming from what the federal government is doing to the streets down there. So I appreciate you being on top of everything, going around, being on the ground where you need to be, even though there's really not much going on other than what our federal government is doing. So I want to thank you for that. Is there anything else you'd like to say before we move on?

[Adam Klassfeld]

Just that this has felt like we're part of a big experiment. This is a test case to let cities know might be LA today and tomorrow. You.

[Alison Gill]

Well, we really appreciate your time today. Thank you so much. I know you're extremely busy, so we appreciate you spending some time with us and explaining what's going on and what you're seeing on the ground in Los Angeles. Mayor Karen Bass, everybody. Stick around. We'll be right back with Adam Klassfeld from All Rise news. Hey everybody, it's ag. You know that feeling when you walk into a friend's house and immediately you start sneezing? That used to be me every time I came home because I love all my cats. But my allergies, especially during allergy season, can make it hard to enjoy their company. Turns out I'm not alone. Over 100 million Americans suffer from allergies and nearly half avoid gatherings because of it. This episode is brought to you by Packaging. This is a company that's making life easier for pet lovers. Their cat Allergen neutralizing spray works by targeting the allergens that cause reactions and breaking them down. Nearly 20% of people have cat allergies and most are not satisfied with the current options. That's where Packagen comes in. It gives us a better alternative. For 25% off your order and a special gift, you can head to packagen.com dailybeans so Packagen is founded by a team of passionate scientists from places like Harvard and Princeton. It set a new standard in allergen management. Packagen's products are recommended by allergists, vet approved and engineered by PhDs to target allergens with precision to deliver results. Rather than treating flare ups after they happen, packagen takes a smart approach by going after the source. The spray tackles the allergen directly in the air and on surfaces. And yes, it's totally safe for you and your pets. If your allergies aren't just from cats, you're still in luck. Packagen also offers dog and dust allergen neutralizing sprays to keep more homes comfortable. Thousands of pet owners trust packagen and they back it with a 30 day money back guarantee so you can try it risk free and breathe a little easier. Your pets aren't just pets, they're family. So get the relief you need with packaging. Head to packagen.com dailybeans for an extra 25% off your order and an exclusive gift for listeners at checkout. That's P-A-C-A-E-N.com DailyBeans for that extra 25% off and an exclusive gift one last time. Packaging.com DailyBeans for an extra 25% off and an exclusive gift auto applied at checkout. You'll be glad you did. Hey everybody, welcome back. I'm happy to be joined by our friend Adam Classfeld from All Rise News. We're going to talk about Donald Trump's back in court trying to shake off these 34 felony counts by moving his stuff to federal court. From state court. And there was a hearing today and Adam's going to tell us about that. And everybody, I want you to know, you go subscribe to All Rise News because Adam Cl and I are going to be doing a live substack on Friday afternoon. We'll find a time when we know more about the hearing that's happening there because you'll be in Tennessee. Oh, wait, are we actually announcing this?

[Karen Bass]

Yeah, let's go right ahead.

[Alison Gill]

All right. Sorry, I thought I was like, oh, no, is this embargoed? You'll be in Tennessee for the hearing for Abreco Garcia. So everybody welcome Adam Classfeld. Hey, Adam.

[Karen Bass]

Hey, Allison. Thank you so much. And yes, I will be flying out the day that this airs to Tennessee for a detention hearing hearing for Kilmar Brigo Garcia on Friday. Now, an interesting thing about that. And then I'll get to your question about Trump's criminal appeals that happened. That detention hearing will have witnesses by order of the court. We'll find out a little bit more about who the witnesses are, what witnesses the defense may bring, if any. But this is what happens when people are accused of serious allegations. In a functioning system of rule of law, you have proceedings where you can confront those allegations through witness testimony. And that's why I found it important to fly out to Tennessee to see what evidence the government actually has now that they have finally complied with the Supreme Court order to get him back to the United States. So with that introduction, I think, and I'm looking forward to talking to it a little bit more with you both now and on the live. You'd asked about Trump's criminal appeal. And it's very interesting. The Second Circuit Court of Appeal slated 10 minutes for each side to present arguments. It was going to be highly technical. It turned out to be an hour and ten minute hearing.

[Alison Gill]

Oh, my gosh.

[Karen Bass]

Because the court is a very interesting hearing. Boris Epstein was there in the courtroom sitting behind the government as a private citizen. His table was right behind the government's table. There were arguments over the scope of the Supreme Court's immunity. And just to put this into perspective for your listeners here, here's what's at stake. Essentially, will Trump's criminal appeals progress in state court or federal court? That's all. Whether it's not over, does the do the 34 felony convictions stand no matter what happens on this appeal that will be argued for another day? All it all that's at stake here is what tracks. And Trump's new attorney, Jeffrey Wall from Sullivan and Cromwell ended this one hour, ten minute argue a thon with a note. The stakes are high. Let's get this moving to go to the merits, which was interesting to me for two reasons. One, well, are the stakes really high? Either way, we're going to hear similar arguments, whether we hear them in state court or federal court. I suppose the Trump administration for a symbolic win here, saying that there is some sort of immunity that attaches or as they put it under the statute, to remove it to federal court. They need to have a colorable argument that it belongs in federal court, that it ties to an official act. That's a pretty low bar. So maybe they just want to win on a small level and it goes on a federal court. But it's difficult to see what the practical difference of this appeal is other than what track does this go before it heads to final adjudication. Now, the second part of that quote from Jeffrey Wall. And let's get this moving to the merits now, astute listeners, and I'm sure that you're thinking about it right now. Wait a minute. Wasn't Trump dragging his feet for months, delaying, delaying and delaying his sentencing in this case we're one year in after his criminal convictions and he was going to be sentenced swiftly. Instead, the sentencing happened much later because of delays by the defense. And it seemed almost in court today that the defense was accusing the DA of foot dragging. And let's get things moving to the merits on the federal track. So we'll, we'll see what happens. The judges didn't tip their hands on this. But just to set the expectations here, whatever the result of this appeal, there's a long road of appeals. This is on a highly technical issue over which jurisdiction is going to hear the fate of Trump's 34 felony conventions.

[Alison Gill]

Now, do you think he wants to move this to federal court because he believes he might have a better shot with the Supreme Court of the United States than he would with the Supreme Court? Well, I know it's not called the Supreme Court in New York, the highest court in New York.

[Karen Bass]

Well, you know, I think either way, the Supreme Court would, of the United States would have the ability to if it went through the state court level. The lower courts in New York's system are confusingly called the Supreme Court. Then it goes to the Appellate Division, then it goes to the Court of Appeals. And after the Court of Appeals rules, the Supreme Court of the United States could decide or not decide to pick it up. So there's, you know, he might feel, well, you know, if it goes on a federal track, maybe I have a better shot. Or he might feel that if he wins on this jurisdictional argument, then he has passed at least some bar improving some sort of relevance to the immunity issues that he's raising. And just to refresh a lot of listeners memories on this, when the the Supreme Court issued its immunity decision, where they went too far for Amy Coney Barrett was when they created this evidentiary.

[Alison Gill]

Yes.

[Karen Bass]

Saying that there's not only immunity for president, there's also an evidentiary immunity attached to the president's official acts. And so Trump's argument here isn't that he has somehow some sort of immunity for everything that happened with Stormy Daniels before the 2016 election. His argument here is that when Hope Hicks testified, she should not have taken the stand because she was doing public relations for him. She was his communications or a couple.

[Alison Gill]

Of his tweets, he argues, were tweeted as a official act. And yeah, it's just like, like lest I can count on my one hand how many pieces of evidence could fall under this possibly evidentiary thing. But even with Amy Coney Barrett, isn't it still just 5 4?

[Karen Bass]

It's still 5 4. And it's still the evidentiary rule is there. And the Supreme Court did use very broad language. So it's quite possible. And judging from the questioning that these Second Circuit judges gave, I wouldn't be surprised either way. Like I said, they did not tip their hands. They might say that under this low threshold that the Trump administration has a, or Trump himself, I should say, has.

[Alison Gill]

A color, has a colorable argument.

[Karen Bass]

That said, the DA's arguments that have nothing to do with that particular facet of it go to the federal removal statute. Did Trump wait too long to invoke this federal removal statute? That's one bar, right? Yeah.

[Alison Gill]

I heard the arguments about the time barred potential time bar issue.

[Karen Bass]

Yes. And in addition to that, this is an argument that is usually you remove things to federal court A, in civil cases, this is not a civil case, and D, you raise this before the trial. This is why you're preserving the rights here. We have a final judgment that is, that has gone through the sentencing process. So this is essentially the DA's argument is it doesn't need to go that far. And if we take a step back from the legal arcana here, where we stand is a little bit more than a year after Trump's criminal convictions, he's still fighting tooth and nail and he has deployed the weight and force of the federal government who and this is an important point for listeners. So I really want to underline it here. The Department of Justice filed a legal brief in Trump's support here. His former criminal defense attorneys at trial now are top ranking senior officials at the doj, Amal Bovey and Todd Blanche, the deputy assistant attorney general and the principal Associate deputy attorney general all. And when you have these two senior ranking officials in the doj, and the DOJ backs Trump, we shouldn't be desensitized to the fact that neither of them mentioned anywhere in the court record whether they recuse themselves from this decision to back Trump in this argument. So anyway, we got a preview of what his appeal was will look like going forward. But there is a lot more to come. And this is this opening round about what track it goes on isn't determinative of the final outcome.

[Alison Gill]

Right. So don't be too weirded out if it makes it to federal court because he may have a colorable argument, just not a good one. But also, I bet I know why he wants to get this done on the merits faster and sooner rather than later. Because if this goes up through the regular process through the state courts and then to the Supreme Court, we might be at the time where they have 100 different other cases on their docket waiting for certiorari based on all of these cases now that are working their way up to the Supreme Court and they're already relying so much on the emergency docket and turning down cases like gun cases in rhode island and D.C. for example, Maryland, and turning down lots of cases because, I mean, I think their docket is pretty overloaded. And if we think it's overloaded now, now next term, I imagine it being even more so overloaded with all of these temporary restraining orders and preliminary injunctions on Trump, executive orders coming up on the merits to the Supreme Court. So if I were Trump, I'd want it now rather than later because you might have a better chance of, of having this approved. Although I will say, because it is Trump, I don't see the Supreme Court refusing to take it, but I have really no faith in them whatsoever. So we'll see how it ends up. But I'm really excited to talk to you Friday about the Abrego Garcia detention hearing. And, and correct me if I'm wrong, that is to see if he is held in pretrial detention pending trial.

[Karen Bass]

Yes. So the hearing is whether I'm sure the judge will assess is he a risk of flight or a danger to the community. And the government will have to be held to that burden, the only risk.

[Alison Gill]

Of flight is is the government.

[Karen Bass]

So, yeah, the government will have to promise not to abscond within a way, whisk him away to some autocrats terrorism prison. But what there will be in all seriousness is an evidentiary hearing we'll see on the docket. The government has now been ordered to disclose both to the defense and to the court, the kind of witnesses I'll bring and the evidence to the defense. So they will be able to present their arguments that in either way. And we'll see a little bit more about the details of the government's indictment and the defense's response to it. And that's the way the system's supposed to operate where there's actually due process and the process isn't the head of the Justice Department says level serious allegations about you after you have been whisked away to a foreign prison. This is the way serious allegations happen in a free society.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah, the good old due process. I appreciate your time today, everybody. If you want to hear us on Substack Live on Friday, all you got to do is go to All Rise News on Substack and subscribe and you'll get a notification about, you know, as soon as that hearing is over and when we're going to jump on that Substack Live so you can join us and listen in and comment. We would love to see you all there. And again, All Rise News on Substack, go subscribe. You'll get an alert in your inbox and you'll know when when we're going to hop on and talk about what happens at that hearing. I'm I know a lot of people across the country, a lot of people listening to this show are very interested to see how that turns out, what witnesses show up to testify on either side and whether or not Abrego Garcia will be held in pretrial detention. So I appreciate your time today, Adam. Thanks so much. And I'm so excited that you're going down to Tennessee to this.

[Karen Bass]

Thank you so much, Alison. I'm looking forward to talking to you all about it and reporting everything I hear and see to your listeners.

[Alison Gill]

I'll be reading up on my Douglas Adams so that we can come up with great metaphors for that conversation that we that we do on Substack Live on Friday afternoon. All right, everybody, stick around. We're going to be right back with the good news, everybody. Welcome back. It's time for the good news, everyone. Then, good news, everyone. Please submit your good news stories or your good trouble ideas to us. You can give a shout out also if you want to a friend or a family member or a loved one or yourself. We love self shout outs or a small business in your area, your small business. Some great community activism. We also like shout outs to government programs that have helped you or a loved one. Whether it's federal, local, municipal, county level, any government program, the Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Affordable Care Act, SNAP, WIC, Section 8 PAC act, great VA healthcare you've received locally either from the state or from the feds, and of course student debt relief. Send it all to us dailybeanspod.com and click on Contact to get your submission right on the air. You just got to pay your pod pet tariffs, which is posting a photo of your pet. If you don't have a pet, adoptable pets in your area will do. If you don't have that, really just grab a photo of an animal off the Internet and send it. We're fine with that. And we're doing bird watching, which can be an actual bird, or you and your family and friends flipping the bird to Trump and Musk Properties. If you don't have any of that, everyone's got a baby picture of yourself, at least as a baby. Maybe an awkward family photo. We love those too. Just attach a photo that we can ooh and awe at and we'll read your stuff on the air. All right, that's DailyBeansPod.com and click on Contact. First up from a 50:51 organizer earlier this week, you shared advice to sit down. If you see provocateurs at a protest, they say, please do not do this. Not only does it make it easier for cops to kettle a crowd, but there's also a risk of being trampled or run over by vehicles or being in the way of first responders. Sitting down might actually put you in danger.

[Dana Goldberg]

Did one of us say that?

[Alison Gill]

Yeah, well, there's a meme going around saying everybody sit down. Oh, and show you're being peaceful if there are provocateurs.

[Dana Goldberg]

Got it, got it.

[Alison Gill]

This organizer says good luck this weekend and all the best to you. Stay safe and make your voices heard. There was a training a couple of nights [e-mail] I'm sure the video is up. It's a training on on protests, so check that out if you get a chance.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right, this one is from Lily Pronoun she and her hi there ladies.

[Alison Gill]

Hello.

[Dana Goldberg]

I'm a new listener and I love getting a little news without spiraling into an existential crisis. How nice. I love the directness that I get here. I don't need that super sugar coated bullshit I keep seeing everywhere else. Oh my God. I'm getting angry just thinking about a video that came up on my Instagram feed a few days ago. It was from inside the front seat of a car, looking back at the passenger window as an ICE officer runs up and swings a hammer or an axe or something fucking crazy into the window. It does it a bunch of times. The video was fucking captioned and I quote, woman says ice officer attempted to break into car. She fucking says, girl, watch. The video says he did. Anyways, this is a ramble. Oh my God. I love our new listener, Lily.

[Alison Gill]

I know. Welcome, Lily.

[Dana Goldberg]

For my good news, I started a mini garden with summer on this summer on my balcony. And today there's a baby bell pepper I'll never been seen. I've never been so excited to eat a vegetable. I'm so proud. I'm also late to proudly report that I plan to smoke a joint and make protest posters tonight. I plan to be in a lawn chair outside the U.S. consulate in Montreal on Saturday with extra signs to share. Thank you so much, Beans. Ladies and listeners, for my tariff, I'm sending in my sweet baby mango. He tries to get into every single box. If the box is too small. No, it's not.

[Alison Gill]

Hi Mango. I love these gray tabbies with orangish colors in them. Very beautiful, Lily. That's awesome. U.S. consulate in Montreal. Yeah. All right, next up from Ashley Pronoun. She and her hi Lively legumes. Last month, we at the American Anthropological association held a town hall with distinguished speakers from leading institutions, the American Council of Learned Societies, National Humanities alliance, the national association for the Advancement of Colored People, Scholars at Risk, and academic perspectives from Eastern Carolina University and California State University. They discussed rising threats to academic freedom, budget driven closures and mergers, and growing uncertainty across higher education. Please let us know if you're interested in interviewing folks from these perspectives. It was a rich discussion with practical key takeaways that left us feeling a bit more hopeful in these trying times. And if nothing else, some comfort in solidarity. I feel that so hard.

[Dana Goldberg]

Well said.

[Alison Gill]

We were asking the panelists for some favorite podcasts they listened to, and Missy Maseko, I hope I'm pronouncing that properly, co founder of Willing Observers and podcaster for the intracultural podcast about culture, politics, DEI and more, suggested the Daily Beans. As soon as I heard her talk about news with swearing and good trouble, I knew I'D be hooked. And I've been ever since. I wanted to add a shameless plug for folks to please donate to the American Anthropological association so we can continue to help amplify voices, support advocacy, and protect the future of our field. As Margaret Mead said, never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. My POD pet tariff is our Jack Russell Cola. She's still cute as a button and feisty as hell at 14 years old.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh my God, these pictures.

[Alison Gill]

But we say she's actually going on four as she shows no signs of slowing down. She's hiked every step of over 500 miles with us so far in the Appalachian Trail.

[Dana Goldberg]

Wow.

[Alison Gill]

She's both cuddler and orner in her age. So I'm sharing two photos to show you what I mean.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's what I was trying to tell you.

[Alison Gill]

Oh my God. You got to scroll down to that second photo. That is fantastic, Ashley. Thank you. Yes. And we would love to hear from folks to to come on the show. You can email us for potential [e-mail]. ashley, thank you so much. Welcome to the podcast. And that's so cool. Cool that somebody brought up the beans on stage at one of the panels. I appreciate you and I appreciate that.

[Dana Goldberg]

Thank you so much. Alison. This one's from Lindy in Kansas. Pronouns she and her hi beanies. I followed you on Facebook and now Blue sky since the Mueller she wrote days and thanks to John Fugal saying but just started listening to in January listening to the pod on Wednesday morning. You mentioned rep. Okay this is going to be fun for me. Adriano and Espiat. His name is pronounced spiat S P at yeah Espiette or sb like where you at? Espiet. The accent is on the first syllable, Espiette. Got it. He represents northern Manhattan, Washington Heights and Inwood or Wahee. I guess that's what they call it. Washington Heights in the shortened nickname style used by most New Yorkers where I lived for 10 years while working on my doc and teaching in the CUNY system.

[Alison Gill]

Oh cool.

[Dana Goldberg]

For my POD pet tariff, here are my two tuxies who look they exchanged their jackets somewhere along the way. Both rescues. Jones, bigger, older and much smarter, was very much an up kitty, wanting to be as high as possible to keep an eye on his kingdom. And Minnie the Younger, smaller. And it's a good thing she was so cute because she once stocked in a mobile bug sized wood chip for 20 minutes.

[Alison Gill]

She's got the one brain cell. I got it.

[Dana Goldberg]

Thanks again for all you do. You give me hope in deep red cells. Southwest Kansas.

[Alison Gill]

Very cool CUNY system. All right. Espiat.

[Dana Goldberg]

Espiet.

[Alison Gill]

Got it. Oh my God, look at these babies. Yeah, she looks a little.

[Dana Goldberg]

Bless her heart.

[Alison Gill]

I know they did exchange jackets. That's so great. Oh, thank you so much for that post. Next up from Bonnie brought down she and her hi wonderful people. My daughter Courtney told me about your refreshing podcast and I love it. All right, we got multi generational listeners. I live in LA and so appreciate your unbiased stories on what's really happening here. I also love the idea that another listener said what they said about handing out food to our troops. How about attaching that 877 number to a protein bar for those hangry military members who want to report unconstitutional orders from the orange turd? 877-447-4487. That's the number you can call to report unlawful orders. Or if you want to blow the whistle and you happen to be in the National Guard. This is me talking by the way. I just want to throw this out there, there. If you want to be a whistleblower and have all the legal protections of a whistleblower and total wraparound support, whistleblower aid is the place to go. And anybody who's wants to support them, we've got our own leguminati URL whistlebloweraid.org beans so tax deductible donations. Anyway, back to Bonnie. Sorry Bonnie. Those hangry military members. My first thought was attaching a Snickers bar for a good double entendre. I'm submitting pics of my two kitties Ladybug, the black one who's very shy but will loudly meow if she wants to enter our bedroom, and Butterfly, the gray one who's a foodie like her mama me. We got these two sibling kitties during COVID after our Tuxedo Cat snuggles passed away at age 17. 17. Since my spouse now works from home and I have a hybrid schedule, Butterfly and Ladybug have never experienced their parents having to leave home for work all day day. They're super spoiled and expect non stop scritches, which we're happy to give mostly. Also, here's a picture of a hummingbird enjoying our new feeder. Okay, these cats are awesome and the hummingbird feeder is beautiful. Yeah, I love that how it's got the baubles hanging in that spiral. That's really pretty.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's a great picture. Thank you thank you. Thank you. All right. This is from Angela Pronoun. She and her. I sometimes play the show on my way to drop off my four year old. Oh, Jesus. Luckily, who hasn't at all picked up on the swearing and only usually hears the first four or five minutes on the drive before she is at school. The other day we were in the car and I asked her what she'd like to listen to, and she said, jelly beans. And I was like, I don't know that song, thinking it was some new fangled kid song. Then she said on the way to work and sang Jelly Beans, Jelly Beans to the tune of your theme song. Then I finally realized she wanted me to play the Daily Beans introduction song for her. I was happy, happy to oblige. Start them young. Hashtag start them young. I'm sharing a photo of my fearless little girl with a bird. One of our chickens named Elsa. Oh, this is such a great photo.

[Alison Gill]

Oh, my God, she's adorable. I'm very jealous of the clubhouse with a chicken in it to boot.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yep.

[Alison Gill]

And Angela, if she likes the Jelly Beans Jelly Beans song, you should play her some more. They Might be Giants Kids love.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah. Birdhouse, definitely.

[Alison Gill]

Yeah. And any of the science stuff, too. The sun is a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace. Or the song about mammals. They can learn about James K. Polk. I mean, it's educational, entertaining, and the johns are always amazing. So tell her thank you for us.

[Dana Goldberg]

I love that.

[Alison Gill]

I. I kind of want to get this clubhouse. It's got a clock. Like, it's like, you know, the. We'll be back. Yeah.

[Dana Goldberg]

After these messages, we ride back, but.

[Alison Gill]

There'S a clock on there. Like, we'll return in two hours, like, to the clubhouse for. For open chicken office hours. I love this so much.

[Dana Goldberg]

Open chicken office hours.

[Alison Gill]

Thank you, Angela. Thank you, everybody, for your incredible good news posts. Please send them to us if you're a new listener. We want to hear from you. We want to hear about what you like. If there's anything that you. Now, don't tell us what you don't like. Just tell us what you like.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's right.

[Alison Gill]

If you get a chance and you want to race the Daily Beans podcast where you listen, please feel free to do so. I remember in the early days of Muller, she wrote, we used to read the bad ratings.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's funny.

[Alison Gill]

These women are mouthy and they giggle too much.

[Dana Goldberg]

Stop it. I think someone told us we laugh too much too. Actually, since I've joined the podcast, I was like, why Are you dead inside?

[Alison Gill]

I can't stay on. The giggling women laugh first of all. Okay. We laugh. Have. And if you can't laugh, I. I'm sorry for you. Yeah. But you know, maybe this isn't a podcast for you. Maybe you should go listen to a very boring show about the news somewhere. Or if you like to get angry, you can watch cnn. I don't know. Up to you. We're not everybody's cup of tea, but we ought to be. So thanks everybody for listening. We appreciate you. We're going to be back in your ears tomorrow. Tomorrow is what Fugal sang Friday, I believe. Let me see if we have any other. Yeah, let's see. John Fugle saying. There he is. He's on the schedule. So I'm very excited about that and I think I'm gonna be maybe sometime this morning on day six in Canada on cbc.

[Dana Goldberg]

Nice.

[Alison Gill]

The radio program to talk about the no Kings rally.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yes.

[Alison Gill]

That is happening on Saturday, which I'm very excited to be a part of. It's gonna be amazing. I can't wait to get out there and see all of you. And I can't wait to see our patrons at our little after party. No Kings. Just Queens. Drag Queen Bingo get together.

[Dana Goldberg]

Love it. If you want to become fun.

[Alison Gill]

I know, I know. And I just want to tell you, if you're coming to the Drag Queen Bingo, please be aware if you haven't been to a drag show before, if you get roasted or called out. It's fun. It's part of the fun. It's part of a drag show. So I just wanted to kind of put that out there.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Alison Gill]

For everybody to know. If you've never been to a drag show, it is a blast and I'm going to love seeing everybody there. If you want to be a patron of this show, you can do [e-mail] Muller she wrote. And you'll get invites to these kinds of meet and greets and VIP pre sale tickets ad free episodes early going to before anybody else. And you get to join us on our. Remember the last time we had the big giant Q and A zoom call happy hour extravaganza.

[Dana Goldberg]

That was so fun.

[Alison Gill]

So much fun. You. Harry Dun was there, Andy McCabe was there. It was a blast. So yeah. Thanks everybody. We'll be back in your ears. Nope. You're out tomorrow, aren't you, Danny?

[Dana Goldberg]

I am out tomorrow. I am, actually. I, I kind of. I'm not even doing something good for the world. I got invited to the opening night of Jean Smart's show on Broadway called Call Me Izzy. And I couldn't say no. So Alison was like, take the night. And so I'm gonna go treat myself to an opening show on Broadway and watch Jean Smart just give an extraordinary performance.

[Alison Gill]

She's incredible.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Alison Gill]

Treat yourself. Treat yourself. That is good for humanity, because we all need to take a break and have wonderful things and joy. Experiencing joy is an act of resistance.

[Dana Goldberg]

There you go.

[Alison Gill]

So every little thing that we do is magic. Okay, we'll be. I'll be back in your ears tomorrow, holding down the fort. John Fugelsang will be with me. Until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health, and take care of your family. I've been ag.

[Dana Goldberg]

I've been dg.

[Alison Gill]

And them's the Beans. The Daily Beans is written in executive produced by Alison Gill with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joelle Reader with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might Be Giants and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics and justice. For more information, Please visit msw media.com msw media.