I Wish We Were Kidding

Summary

The Daily Beans Podcast – “I Wish We Were Kidding”

Date: April 1, 2026 | Hosts: Allison Gill (AG) & Dana Goldberg (DG)

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a whirlwind of breaking political, legal, and social justice news, with an especially heavy focus on a distressing Supreme Court ruling regarding conversion therapy bans on Transgender Day of Visibility. Hosts Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg unpack a flurry of alarming developments from the Trump administration, judiciary, and international relations. The tone is a charged mix of progressive rage, dark humor, and resilient hope, punctuated by moments of community joy and good news submissions from listeners.

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Major Headlines & Key Discussion Points

Lightning Round of News (01:03–11:28)

• Supreme Court Ruling on Conversion Therapy Bans: The Court ruled against bans on conversion therapy, likely invalidating laws protecting LGBTQ youth (detailed later).
• Trump’s Executive Order on Voting: Trump signed an order to restrict vote-by-mail, sparking immediate legal challenges.
• Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers’ Veto: Evers vetoed five anti-trans bills, signaling resistance at the state level.
• Trump and the War in Iran: Trump signals willingness to end military involvement in Iran without reopening the Strait of Hormuz, passing responsibility to allies.
• Stephen Miller Orders ICE Confrontations: Leaked DHS communications reveal Miller directed ICE to “vanquish” protesters, resulting in violence.
• ICE at Marine Graduation Events: ICE agents to check immigration status at graduation ceremonies, drawing outrage.
• Senate Democrats Seek Investigation: Democrats demand a probe into a U.S. strike that killed Iranian schoolgirls.
• Italy Blocks U.S. Aircraft Use: Italy refused U.S. military aircraft use of the Sigonella Air Base for Middle East operations.
• Legal Setbacks for Trump: Multiple court injunctions and unfavorable rulings against Trump’s policies (NPR defunding, Endangered Species Act attacks, White House ballroom project, etc.).
• Swalwell Sends Cease-and-Desist: Rep. Swalwell demands the FBI block the release of files relating to him.
• Pentagon Press Access Issues: Press restrictions challenged in court, exposing government resistance to transparency.
• Army Suspends Crew: Apache crew suspended over a “Kid Rock flyby” incident.

🎙️ “That’s a record for headlines in one single day, I think.” — AG (02:29)

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Supreme Court Conversion Therapy Ruling (15:29–22:48)

Overview

• Case: Chiles v. Salazar, brought by Kaylee Chiles (Alliance Defending Freedom).
• Ruling: 8–1 in favor of recognizing conversion therapy bans as unconstitutional restrictions on free speech. Only Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented.
• Impact: Likely invalidates bans in over 23 states and D.C., potentially leading to forced conversion therapy for minors.
• Undermining Professional Standards: Ruling could upend regulation of all speech-based professional conduct.

Notable Quotes

• Justice Gorsuch (majority):

  “Her speech does not become conduct just because the government says so, or because it may be described as a treatment or therapeutic modality. The First Amendment is no word game...” (18:14)

• Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson (dissent):

  “Because the majority plays with fire in this case, I fear that the people of this country will get burned... We do harm to both the nation’s medical system and our First Amendment jurisprudence by ignoring that wisdom today.” (19:50)

Discussion

• The hosts highlight the devastating consequences for LGBTQ youth, referencing major medical organizations’ condemnation of conversion therapy and international recognition as torture.
• AG notes the dangerous precedent this sets for all professions, not just medicine.
• DG points out the manufactured nature of the suit, as the therapist “never has and never intends” to engage in conversion therapy (22:48).

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Critical Takeaways from Other Major Stories

Wisconsin Governor’s Resistance (09:36–10:35)

• Evers’ veto of anti-trans bills was celebrated for defending LGBTQ rights and kids’ mental health.

  “It threatens the safety and dignity of LGBTQ Wisconsinites...” – Gov. Evers, via Dana Goldberg (09:44)

Trump’s War Policy Shift (23:41–27:26)

• Trump willing to leave the strategic Strait of Hormuz closed, undermining global energy supply and allies’ security.

  “Go get your own oil.” — Trump on Truth Social, quoted by DG (25:19)

ICE at Military Graduations (28:57–31:05)

• ICE presence at Parris Island to screen graduating marines’ families for immigration status.

  “These are…the people that want to fight for our fucking country and die for our country. And they’re doing that to identify whether any of their family members are undocumented.” — DG (29:01)

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Community Highlights & Listener Good News (33:40–47:13)

Wisconsin Supreme Court Race (33:40–37:02)

• Importance of the open seat explained: candidates Chris Taylor (Democratic) vs. Maria Lazar (Federalist Society).
• Low early voting numbers — calls for listener action and GOTV efforts.

Uplifting Listener Submissions

• Roller Skating for Democracy: Elizabeth B. shares joy in skating with protest signs in Chico, CA. (37:02–37:39)
• No Kings Rallies: Stories and photos from anti-authoritarian rallies in San Jose, Shelbyville (KY), Albuquerque, and New Orleans — all marked by grassroots activism, creative protest signs, and supportive crowds.
• Martin Sheen at C2E2: Listener recounts meeting Sheen, who wore a no kings pin and expressed solidarity with demonstration efforts.

Host Reflections

• Both hosts express sorrow and anger about the Supreme Court decision, emphasizing the real harm inflicted on the LGBTQ community.

  “I just want everybody to know that I love you... that’s just beyond.” — AG (45:47) “The cruelty is the point... It’s a horrifying decision, and I just don’t understand the timing of how these things keep coming down.” — DG (46:56)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Operation Epic Fail.” — AG on Trump’s Iran strategy (27:17)
• “These people know they’re committing crimes... This is for them. This is for Peter Thiel, Palantir and Stephen Miller. They know what they’re doing. This is wild.” — AG (07:56)
• “Remember those simple days. Those were good skate days and your little skate booties.” — AG reminiscing (38:11)
• “The First Amendment protects the right of a licensed counselor to coercively change who they are inside or who they might love.” — AG summarizing SCOTUS message (22:23)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:03–11:28: Rapid-fire headline roundup
• 15:29–22:48: In-depth on the Supreme Court conversion therapy ruling
• 23:41–27:26: Trump’s policy on Iran and the Strait of Hormuz
• 28:57–31:05: ICE at Marine graduations
• 33:40–47:13: Listener good news, Wisconsin Supreme Court race, protest photos, Martin Sheen at C2E2, and closing reflections

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Tone & Style

The tone alternates between urgent, angry, and darkly funny, with the hosts providing relentless snark, emotional support for listeners, and sharp critiques of the current administration and Supreme Court. "We wish we were kidding," as the episode title says, but their commitment to truth and resilience shines through even the toughest news cycle.

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Closing Thoughts

The episode closes with honest acknowledgment of the pain and fear the Supreme Court’s ruling brings, practical calls to action, and a reminder to support each other and keep fighting for justice:

“Please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health, and take care of your friends, family. I’ve been AG.” — Allison Gill (47:43)

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Links & Resources

• It Gets Better Project
• [Vote for Chris Taylor (Wisconsin Supreme Court)](show notes link)
• [Donate to Lauren Jewett for Louisiana’s First District](show notes link)

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Transcript

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[Dana Goldberg]

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[Allison Gill]

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[Dana Goldberg]

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[Allison Gill]

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[Dana Goldberg]

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[Allison Gill]

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[Dana Goldberg]

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[Allison Gill]

Daily beans. Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Wednesday, April 1, 2026. Today, the Supreme Court has ruled against conversion therapy bans on transgender. Day of visibility. Trump has signed an illegal executive order restricting vote by mail. Wisconsin governor Tony Evers has vetoed five anti trans bills. Trump says he's willing to end the war in Iran without reopening the Strait of Hormuz. Stephen Miller told ICE to force confrontations and vanquish Minnesota protesters by any force necessary. ICE agents will be stationed outside Marine Corps graduation events. In South Carolina. Senate Democrats demand an investigation into the double tap strike on Iranian schoolgirls. Italy refuses US Aircraft use of Sicily based for Middle east operations. A federal judge appears skeptical of Pete Hegseth's press restrictions. A judge has halted Trump's ballroom project, issuing a preliminary injunction. Rep. Swalwell has sent a cease and desist letter to Kash Patel. A judge says the video depositions of Doge Bros have to stay online. The army has suspended the air crew that did the Kid Rock flyby in an Apache helicopter. A judge has blocked Trump's effort to defund npr. And a federal court has struck down Trump's attacks on the Endangered Species Act. I'm Allison Gill.

[Dana Goldberg]

And I'm Dana Goldberg.

[Allison Gill]

Okay, so that's a record for headlines in one single day, I think.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, this one is as. As Allison said, it's beefy when she sent it to me. Dana, the script today is beefy. Here we go.

[Allison Gill]

It's very beefy. So I just want to let everybody know. Very happy to report that as of this recording, we've raised an additional almost to $10,000, like $9,700 for it gets better on trans. Day of visibility. We're still recording this on Tuesday and y' all showed up. I'm so very proud and impressed and amazed and the staff. Dana at It Gets Better is over the moon, I'm sure. Man, that community is, is incredible. So I just, I'm blown away by this.

[Dana Goldberg]

I love it. We have such good listenership here. We have so many people that care about these things. And so, you know, as we are recording this on, it's just exciting to report news like that. I have more faith in humanity because of you all. Truly, because of you all.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And a lot of you are sharing why you're donating. And here's some of the anonymous highlights. One is in honor of my amazing kid who changed my life. One says my best friend. One says for my incredible cousin. One says for the students at the Harvey Milk School in New York City. And another says any kid who feels lost or alone. So these are some of the messages that folks are attaching to their donations from the Daily Beans community.

[Dana Goldberg]

Just amazing, amazing, amazing.

[Allison Gill]

All right, everybody, we have so much news today. We're going to do a lightning round of Trump court losses, plus a few other things for the quick hits. And to make a long story short, first up from NPR, U.S. district Judge Randolph Moss in Washington ruled Tuesday that President Donald Trump's executive order to cease funding for NPR and PBS is unlawful and unenforceable. The judge says the First Amendment right to free speech, quote, does not tolerate viewpoint discrimination and retaliation of this type.

[Dana Goldberg]

Thanks so much, Allison, from the Times. Manhattan judge on Monday ruled that the video depositions of two former employees, these douchebags of Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, they could be reposted on the Internet. This is 10 days after they were temporarily taken down because of complaints that the former employees were being harassed. And it was devastating to them because they're both idiots.

[Allison Gill]

Oh, my gosh. So it has to go back up. That's great. And from Politico, a federal judge expressed skepticism Monday about the Pentagon's new press access policy after invalidating an earlier version of it that prompted almost all holders of media credentials to turn them in. This is U.S. district Judge Paul Friedman. He convened a hearing in response to complaints from the New York Times that the Pentagon is defying this judge's earlier order to restore access by subsequently shutting down the decades old correspondence corridor and giving journalists unescorted access only to to a library at the margins of the complex. Now, the judge did not rule immediately, though. He just had his, like, skeptical stuff going questions. But he gave the government lawyers until the end of Tuesday to respond in writing to some of the New York Times contentions.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right, thanks so much, Alison. And from Earth Justice, a federal court struck down Trump's attacks against the Endangered Species Act. That's the esa, restoring key values of the bedrock environmental law to status it held for decades before the first Trump administration attacked the bedrock environmental environmental law. After a seven year legal saga, the Northern District of California court found that a series of regulations from 2019 to 2024 were in clear violation of the statute and ordered those regulations immediately vacated. The ruling is going to derail ongoing efforts by the current Trump administration to further weaken the esa. But man, six, seven, seven years. You know much damage can be done to our environment in seven fucking years.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, it's fucking bullshit. But the judge said. Nope. From the Post, Attorneys for Eric Swalwell demanded Monday in a letter to FBI Director Kash Patel that the FBI refrain from releasing decade old investigative files involving the congressman's purported ties to a suspected Chinese intelligence operative. The congressman called for the FBI to agree within three days not to release the files, adding that any further action to release them could prompt him to take legal action. The cease and desist letter followed a report from the Post over the weekend that Patel had dispatched agents to review and redact the files in a potential move to ready them for public release.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right. And From Reuters, a U.S. judge blocked Trump on Tuesday from proceeding with construction of a $400 million ballroom on the side of the White House's demolished East Wing, halting for now one of the Republican president's most visible efforts to reshape the seat of American power. U.S. district Judge Richard Leon in Washington granted a request for a preliminary injunction by the National Trust for Historic Preservation, a nonprofit organization that brought lawsuit alleging Trump exceeded his authority when he raised the historic. He just bulldozed the historic East Wing and launched construction without approval from Congress. And by the way, there's a video of him now saying, this was never about the ballroom. It's about the fucking bunker underneath. They're building a military bunker. And. And if. I would just imagine. So if if goes south at the election or any other time in history, they're going to all go down there and think they're protected.

[Allison Gill]

Yep. Hitler built a ballroom.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, he sure did. And then he ended up dying.

[Allison Gill]

That bunker right when the shit hit the fan, that's the place that they all read.

[Dana Goldberg]

I mean, you have to remember, this isn't about Trump anymore. You all he's going to die. This is about all of these people who know that they're committing crimes and that can be held accountable for their crimes. And this is for them. This is for, like Peter Thiel Palantir and Stephen Miller. They know what they're doing. This is wild.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, it's bazonkers. In other news for the quick hits from Reuters, Italy last week denied permission for US Military aircraft to land in the Sigonella Air Base in Sicily before heading to the Middle east, according to sources, because Washington did not seek prior authorization from the government in Rome. You'll remember yesterday, Dana, Spain said it closed its airspace to US Planes involved in attacks in Iran. Spain and Italy are both members of NATO.

[Dana Goldberg]

Thank you very much. And Senate Democrats on the Armed Services Committee. They've written to Republican chair Roger Wicker asking him to open an investigation into the double tap strike on the Iranian school that killed 168 people. They were mostly children, schoolgirls, and I quote, Congress and the committee have a constitutional responsibility to conduct robust oversight of the U.S. department of Defense's operations in Iran to provide an appropriate check and balance on the Trump administration's use of the world's most powerful military. And this catastrophic airstrike urgently warrants congressional oversight and accountability.

[Allison Gill]

We'll see if they get it from NBC. A U.S. official said Tuesday that the army has suspended the air crew flying military helicopters by Kid Rock's house over the weekend. The army has not said whether these were reservists or guard and did not respond when reached for comment. We'll keep an eye on this story as it develops.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right. And a little good news at the top of the show. This is from the Wisconsin Examiner. Governor Tony Evers vetoed Republican bills Tuesday that would have placed new prohibitions in state statute related to transgender children, including banning them from sports teams that align with their gender identity, barring them from choosing the name and pronouns used for them in school, and from accessing gender affirming medical care. Ever said in a statement that the legislation, and I quote, stirs harmful rhetoric, negatively affects Wisconsinites and kids mental health, emboldens anti LGBTQ harassment, bullying and violence, and it threatens the safety and dignity of LGBTQ Wisconsinites, especially our trans and non binary kids. So when there's such bullshit coming out of the Supreme Court on the trans day of visibility, at least we got Tony Evers doing the right thing in Wisconsin.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And he's long been doing this. He's vetoed more bills in the past. And that was a great statement. It was just so succinct and well said.

[Dana Goldberg]

Absolutely.

[Allison Gill]

And Trump has signed an illegal executive order restricting vote by mail. Mark Elias, prominent Democratic elections lawyer, says he's plans to sue Trump over the order. I imagine it will be blocked while litigation is pending. Trump's order directs Homeland Security, in conjunction with the Social Security Administration, to create an approved list of absentee voters. The U.S. postal Service would be directed to only send mail in ballots to voters on that list. Pam Bondi would enforce the executive order and investigate anyone who wrongfully distributed mail in ballots. And the executive order threatens to withhold federal funds to states who don't comply with the order. It also has a bunch of extra steps for what the post office has to consider a correct ballot envelope. So it's just a bunch of bullshit. Mark Elias, like I said, is going to sue. Hopefully it will be blocked. The president has no authority. Not that that's ever stopped him before.

[Dana Goldberg]

Right.

[Allison Gill]

He has no role in federal elections. The states administer elections. And I'm hoping that even the conservative Supreme Court sees it that way if it gets that far. All right, everybody, that was just the quick hits today. We have more news to get to, but first we're going to take a quick break, so stick around. We'll be right back after these messages.

[Dana Goldberg]

We'll be right back.

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[Allison Gill]

Hot Notes all right everybody, welcome back. Our first story comes from Aaron Reed at Aaron in the Morning on Tuesday. The Supreme Court of the United States issued a sweeping ruling in favor of conversion therapy, finding that bans on the practice likely violate free speech, and remanded the case to the lower courts in a way that virtually guarantees such bans will no longer survive legal challenge. The ruling, which holds that speech based professional conduct is protected by the First Amendment, it could open a Pandora's box of challenges to professional regulations across medicine and mental health. It is likely to invalidate over 23 state laws banning conversion therapy, potentially reinstituting the practice nationwide. The decision comes on Trans Day of visibility, following five other anti LGBTQ rulings mostly focused on transgender people in the last year alone. The ruling was issued in an 8 to 1 opinion authored by Gorsuch, with only Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissenting. Justices Kagan and Sotomayor, both members of the Court's liberal wing, joined the majority but filed their own concurrence, signaling that a more carefully written law could survive a constitutional challenge. This case, Chiles v. Salazar, was brought by Kaylee Chiles, a licensed Christian counselor in Colorado representing the Alliance Defending Freedom, the same conservative legal powerhouse behind 303 Creative v. Alenis, which established a First Amendment right for businesses to refuse services to same sex couples and which has supported and helped draft anti trans laws nationwide. Chiles challenged Colorado's minor conversion therapy law, passed in 2019, which prohibited licensed mental health professionals from engaging in any practice or treatment that attempts to change a minor's sexual orientation or gender identity. The law was designed to protect LGBTQ children from a practice that every major medical organization in the country has condemned as harmful and ineffective. Now, with the ruling in hand, parents could soon force their minor children into conversion therapy sessions aimed at changing their sexual orientation or gender identity, sessions that research has shown more than double the risk of suicide attempts among LGBTQ youth. Quote her speech does not become conduct just because the government says so, or because it may be described as a treatment or therapeutic modality. The First Amendment is no word game and the exercise of constitutional rights cannot be circumscribed by mere labels. That's gorgeous forsage for the majority without considering the implications of expanding free speech protections to professional conduct that is speech based. Under this logic, any medical treatment delivered through words rather than instruments could now carry First Amendment protection, a framework that could shield a doctor who encourages a patient to commit suicide, a dietitian who tells an anorexic patient to eat less, or a therapist who deliberately steers vulnerable clients away from life saving treatment. It could also extend well beyond Medicine. A financial advisor who talks an elderly client into a bad investment is exercising speech based professional conduct, as is a lawyer who gives harmful legal advice. Justice Jackson, the sole dissenter, responded in scathing terms, reading her dissent from the bench, which is a step justices usually reserve for when they believe the majority has made a grave error. She says, quote, ultimately, because the majority plays with fire in this case, I fear that the people of this country will get burned. Before now, licensed medical professionals had to adhere to standards when treating patients. They could neither do nor say whatever they want. Largely due to such state regulation, Americans have been privileged to enjoy long and successful traditions of high quality medical care. Today, the court turns its back on that tradition. And to be completely frank, no one knows what will happen now. This decision might make speech only therapies and other medical treatments involving practitioner speech effectively unregulatable, not to be reached via licensing standards, medical malpractice liability, or any other means of state control. Who knows? Certainly not the majority. It appears to have made this momentous decision without adequately grappling with the potential long term and disastrous implications of this ruling. The fallout could be catastrophic. She went on to say the court could be ushering in an era of unprofessional and unsafe medical care administered by effectively unsupervised health care providers. A state license used to mean something to the patients who entrusted their care to licensed professionals, that is that the person is certified to be one who provides treatments that are consistent with the standard of care that stops today. We're on a slippery slope. Now, for the first time, the Supreme Court has interpreted the First Amendment to bless a risk of therapeutic harm to children by limiting the state's ability to regulate medical providers who treat patients with speech. What's next? In a worst case scenario, our medical system unravels as various licensed healthcare professionals talk. Therapists, psychiatrists, and presumably anyone else who claims to utilize speech when administering treatments to patients start broadly wielding their newfound constitutional right to provide substandard medical care. And she concluded, quote, it's baffling that we could now be standing on the edge of a precipitous drop in the quality of health care service in America. Somehow, justices from eras past have always understood that there is no right to practice medicine which is not subordinate to the police power of the states. We do harm to both the nation's medical system and our First Amendment jurisprudence by ignoring that wisdom today. Now, this practice that the Court has now shielded under the First Amendment has been condemned by virtually every major medical and mental health organization. In the country. American Psychological association adopted a formal resolution opposing this practice in 2021. American Psychiatric association has opposed it since 97, as have the American Medical Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling association, and more than a dozen other professional bodies. The Trevor Project's research has found that LGBTQ youth subjected to conversion therapy are more than twice as likely to attempt suicide and more than 2.5 times as likely to report multiple suicide attempts. Survivors describe lasting psychological damage, including depression, ptsd, anxiety, self hatred, and suicidal ideation. The UN The United nations has deemed conversion therapy a form of torture and has recommended it be banned worldwide. So this case now turns to the 10th Circuit, where Colorado's law will be evaluated under strict scrutiny. The most demanding constitutional standard, which requires the state to prove the law is narrowly tailored to serve a compelling government interest. Very few laws survive that test, and conversion therapy bans are unlikely to moving forward. But the impact extends far beyond Colorado. More than 23 states and D.C. have similar conversion therapy bans on the books, and each now is vulnerable to challenge under the framework the court established today. The Alliance Defending Freedom has already signaled its intent to challenge bans in other states for LGBTQ youth across the country. The message from this court is clear. The First Amendment protects the right of a licensed counselor to coercively change who they are inside or who they might love. You can read more about this ruling at Erin in the Morning on Substack.

[Dana Goldberg]

Thanks, Allison. One of the most frustrating things about this case for me is that this therapist has said that she has never and never intends to use conversion therapy in her practice, but because of the Alliance Defending Freedom. And I have to wonder how much they're paying these fucking people. She brought this case to the Supreme Court. It's the same thing as those people that are like, well, if one day, you know this website, same thing, same, same Alliance Defending Freedom. If I ever get asked to make a website for that, I want to have the right to say, no. It's based on something that hasn't even fucking happened.

[Allison Gill]

Right. Like the dentists who were trying to get mifepristone taken off the market.

[Dana Goldberg]

Exactly. Somehow this Supreme Court is saying, you know what? We're gonna protect those just in case it happens in the future. It's infuriating.

[Allison Gill]

It seems like, no, you shouldn't have standing to do that.

[Dana Goldberg]

Exactly.

[Allison Gill]

You need to have irreparable harm to your practice. And if you aren't practicing that, how? I don't. It's so.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's what's so fucking infuriating about this case. She has said on record she never has. And she said, and I never intend to instill my values on my patients and still brought the case to the Supreme Court. This is why I want everyone to realize marriage equality is not safe. Kim Davis case was fucking flawed. Very flawed. She overstepped. She decided to tap on marriage equality to getting her money from when they fined her for not giving marriage licenses in her state. It was a flawed case. Someone is going to bring a case that is not flawed. And so for people to say marriage equality is safe in this country, I just need those people to start protecting your relationships and your families now. Do it now. Just don't even wait. This next story is from the Wall Street Journal. President Trump told aides he's willing to end the US Military campaign against Iran even if the Strait of Hormuz remains largely closed, administration officials said, likely extending Tehran's firm grip on the waterway and leaving a complex operation to reopen it for a later date. In recent days, Trump and his aides assessed that a mission to pry open the choke point would push the conflict beyond his timeline of four to six weeks because in order for them to continue, he has to say it's a war and get Congress's approval. He decided that the US should achieve its main goals of hobbling Iran's navy and its missile stocks and wind down current hostilities while pressuring Tehran diplomatically to resume the free flow of trade. If that fails, Washington would press allies in Europe and the Gulf to take the lead on reopening the Strait. Could you imagine? Sorry, we did this. Peace out. Good luck. There are also military options the president could decide on, but they aren't in his immediate priority. That's what he said. Trump on Tuesday morning urged other countries to launch their own operation to wrest control of the Strait from Iran, blaming countries like the UK for not joining the US Israeli mission against the Islamic Republic, and I quote, build up some delayed courage. Go to the straight and just take it. You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be there to help you anymore, just like you weren't there for us. That's what Trump posted on. I know. That's what Trump posted on Truth Social Network. And end with Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard part is done. Go get your own oil.

[Allison Gill]

Holy shit.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah. Over the past month, Trump has expressed various opinions in public on how to handle the Strait, part of a larger pattern of giving conflicting goals and objectives over the war. Overall, he's at times threatened to bomb civilian energy infrastructure if the waterway isn't reopened by a certain date. On other occasions, he's played down the importance of the strait to the US and said its closure is a problem for other nations to solve, not us. We're good, really. The consumers don't seem to be when our gas is $6 a gallon now, the longer the strait remains closed, the more it will roil the global economy and boost gas prices. Multiple countries, including US allies, they're reeling from the downturn in energy supply that once flowed freely through the chokepoint. Industries that rely on items such as fertilizer to grow food or helium to make computer chips. They're also suffering from shortages. Without a swift return to safe passages, Tehran's going to continue to threaten world trade until the United States and its partners either negotiate a deal or forcibly end the crisis. This is all what the analysts are saying.

[Allison Gill]

Operation Epic Fail.

[Dana Goldberg]

And it was. I'm sorry, we are doing this to. What was it? Liberate the people of Iran. How's that? How's that going? How's that going?

[Allison Gill]

Here's your brand new, much younger Ayatollah. You're welcome.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yep.

[Allison Gill]

Jesus. All right. From tnr. White House Deputy Chief of staff Stephen Miller's outrageous order to immigration officials may have sparked the confrontation that killed an American citizen. During one of his many furious morning calls with immigration enforcement officials, Miller demanded that federal agents be dispatched to certain areas of Minneapolis in order to force confrontations with anti ICE protesters. That's according to two senior DHS officials. Miller repeatedly urged federal agents to engage with protesters in order to win a PR battle. One official said. What's interesting is this was a leak to the Daily Mail by two DHS sources. So somebody's trying to take Stephen Miller out now. He told officials that anti ICE could not be viewed as successful and repeatedly said the demonstrators need to be vanquished by any force necessary. That's what Stephen Miller told them. Federal immigration agents would later shoot and kill Alex Preddy, 36 year old ICU nurse, sparking nationwide outrage and unrest. Miller claimed that Preddy was an assassin when he was simply filming agents while exercising his second amendment right. Miller's hardline mass deportation agenda is reportedly falling out of fashion with the fascists as mounting leaks have detailed his erratic behavior in backing off his soft ethnic cleansing. So somebody at DHS wants Miller OWT and leaked this to the Daily Mail, which is a conservative.

[Dana Goldberg]

Good, I hope, because he's a problem of all this. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, my friend. All right, this one's from NBC. ICE agents will be stationed outside graduation events for the nation's newest Marines. The Marines, the people that want to fight for our fucking country and die for our country. And they're doing that to identify whether any of their family members are undocumented. This is according to the Marine Corps. If the US Continues the war in Iran, the Marine Corps has boosted protection measures on bases requiring anyone and everyone to present real IDs, US passports or US births certificates to access any sites. Undocumented immigrants are generally ineligible for federal real IDs and don't have US passports or birth certificates. So people without identifying documents who arrive at the gate of the Marine Corps Recruit Depot at Parris island and Beaufort, South Carolina for recruit family days and graduation events this week, they may now have to answer to Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Unreal. Now, because of, and I quote, increased force protection measures at the recruit Depot, federal law enforcement personnel will be present at installation access points to conduct enhanced screenings and lawful immigration status inquiries during recruit family and graduation days. This is a message on the Parris island website reads now while sometimes family members don't have proper documentation, it wasn't clear why ICE had decided to station at Parris island specifically graduation's Friday morning. But family members are invited to visit the base and celebrate their sons and daughters. Completion of the grueling training beginning Wednesday. Marine recruits aren't allowed to see their families during the 13 week boot camp. Marine Corps recruits trained at Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris island since November of 1915. It is graduation ceremony is about 46 weeks of the year now. It's not clear whether ice will be at the gate to Parris island for the unforeseeable future or whether ICE involvement could expand to other basis. I just the. I can't even tell you how angry this makes me.

[Allison Gill]

These are, by the way, Marines. But this is 12 weeks they signed up under Trump's administration to serve in the military. Yeah, under Pete Hegseth, that's true. And ICE wants to snatch their family members coming to see them graduate. I hope they know that I know. I really hope they know that. All right, everybody, we're going to get to the good news, but we have to take another quick break. Stick around, we'll be right back.

[Martin Sheen]

Filming the Way on the Camino de Santiago de Compostela was one of the most important and rewarding experiences of my life. And it was by far the most satisfying role of my career. The Way was filmed in 2009 over an eight week schedule and followed the pilgrimage route from St Jean Pierre de Port in the French Pyrenees across northern Spain to Santiago and then on to Mushea for the final scene. And the entire production was a family affair. Those are the opening lines of a story I share and they reflect the very heart of my podcast. And through sharing autobiographical stories and inspired poetry and personal reflections, that is the theme I find myself exploring again and again. But I do so in the hope that it sparks listeners to see how it relates to their own lives and their own story of their discovery. So please join me each Sunday for a beautifully crafted 20 minute journey of personal exploration. I'm proud to announce the Martin Sheen Podcast Season two. I've often said if it's not personal, it's impersonal. And that is how I choose to approach my podcast. With all its contents from storytelling to poetry and book selections. Each unique episode is a journey we will share together. And I think it's important you know that I have no intention of leaving who I am at the door with this podcast. Anyone who knows me knows I cannot tell a personal story that doesn't have at least some social justice connection at its core. I have my convictions and issues that draw on my empathy and compassion. Frankly, that's what drives and informs my conscience and makes me who I am. How could I bring any less to this endeavor? So tune in Sundays as I invite you to follow, subscribe and receive notifications about what's next for me, Martin Sheen. Oh, and for more information please visit themartensheenpodcast.com and thank you again everybody.

[Allison Gill]

Welcome back. It's time for the good news everyone. Then good news everyone. And boy, do we need your good news now more than ever. Please send it to us dailybeanspod.com and click on Contact. It can be something big, something small, something happy. It could have happened a week ago or 20 years ago. It could be your favorite joke or some misheard song lyrics. Maybe a shout out to a loved one or a nonprofit. A self shout out. Those are always great. Shout out to a government program that's helped you or a loved one. Anything at all that'll bring a smile to our face. Send it to us dailybeanspod.com click on Contact. And then of course to get your submission on the air, you just gotta attach a picture. Your pay your pod pet tariff. As we say, it can be your pet and we can try to guess the breeds in your shelter pup. Or it can be an adoptable pet in your area or a random photo of an animal on the Internet. We love red pandas, secretary birds, otters, black and white pandas too. Those are great. Anything Goats, goats, goats, goats, 24 hour goats, live new goats, chickens, anything. Family photos. That works too. If you have baby pictures, your baby photos, holiday pictures, photos of the no Kings rally and events that you went to over this past weekend, share it with us. We'd love to see it. Dailybeanspod.com click on Contact first up is your Good Trouble Good Trouble today Wisconsin Supreme Court Open seat Tuesday, April 7 According to Votebeat.org, the 2026 Wisconsin Supreme Court race could affect future voting rules. Quote the winner will likely play a role in how voters cast ballots for the subsequent decade. The Wisconsin Supreme Court plays a key role in settling voting disputes, particularly when state government is divided between a Democratic governor and a Republican controlled legislature. In the past few years, the Court has issued a series of high stakes rulings on election administration, banning and then unbanning ballot drop boxes, ordering new legisl legislative maps, limiting who can bring voting related lawsuits, and allowing the state's top election official to remain in her role. While the Wisconsin Supreme Court race is officially nonpartisan, candidates have become increasingly willing to embrace partisan views and often campaign on their records as liberals or conservatives. In this race, Appeals Court Judge Maria Lazar and Chris Taylor are squaring off. Taylor is a former Democratic member of the State assembly, while Lazar is a member of the Federalist Society. So you know who to vote for. Yes indeed. Chris Taylor. Chris Taylor and according to Wisconsin Public Radio, early voting numbers have been very low so far, with about half as many ballots returned compared to this time in the 2025 Supreme Court election. So I don't think a lot of people know about this. So Saturday, April 4th join Middleton get out the Vote for Judge Taylor People for the American Way Wisconsin Dems, Wis. Dems Join them to knock on doors in Middleton and encourage our neighbors to vote for Judge Taylor as our next Supreme Court Justice. There are Multiple shifts Saturday, April 4th training provided. We'll have all the links for you in the show notes. And if you know someone in Wisconsin, please make sure they vote in this election. If you are someone in Wisconsin, please make sure you vote in this very important election. We'll have all the details in the show notes as I said and thank you so much for this good trouble.

[Dana Goldberg]

Thanks Alison. This is from Elizabeth B. No pronouns given Alison and Dana. I was watching Beans Talk this morning and wanted you to know That I always feel joy when I'm defending democracy with others. And on Saturday, I wore roller skates to the march and my friend and I skated, skated along with our signs for the two mile march in Chico, California and then skated home afterwards, saving gas money and our environment while staying healthy and happy as I'm able in this political climate. Thanks for all you both do to help save our democratic republic. I hope you have a joyous day. Cheers, Elizabeth. Look how happy the two of them are.

[Allison Gill]

I'm gonna go with you next time. Rollers.

[Dana Goldberg]

I know, right? I haven't been on skates in a while, but I bet I could get. I could get back into it.

[Allison Gill]

I could probably manage it.

[Dana Goldberg]

I may or may not have been a manager at Roller King in Albuquerque, New Mexico when I was like a youngin, I was a manager and I was a DJ for speed skating and I would take care of all of the DJ work for the roller rink.

[Allison Gill]

Oh, holy crap. So were you like ladies choice backwards skate and then play billiation.

[Dana Goldberg]

All of it?

[Allison Gill]

Yeah.

[Dana Goldberg]

Speed skating highway into the danger zone from Love it. It.

[Allison Gill]

Absolutely love it. That's fantastic, man. I miss those days. Remember those simple days. Those were good skate case and your little skate booties. All right, next up, low speed wobble. Hola, Frijoles. My wife and I attended the no Kings rally in San Jose, California this past weekend. Thank you for attending that. We've participated in the previous local protests along El Camino Real, but this time we wanted to experience a central gathering point. Speeches and a march march. What an experience it was to be part of a crowd like that. Definitely felt like a cork in the current. Once the march started. Our doggy Ollie was a trooper. And even though he got stepped on a couple times, he received lots of love and hugs from folks. I wanted to share my protest sign and a pic of Ollie taking a break. Keep up the good work. Resist. All right, what does this sign say? I'm gonna have to enlarge this because of my eyes. It should be clear from recent events that America's enemy is not the communist over there there, but those deranged right wing lunatics right here. Fantastic. And there's an American flag and a progressive pride flag on there. That's fantastic. And look at the puppers.

[Dana Goldberg]

I know, so good. All right, this is from Kathy. Pronouns she and her hello, DG and AG. Thanks for encouraging folks to share their no king stories. It's so important that we keep encouraging people with how much of a high you get from participating in these events. Events. It's one of the things that keeps me going day to day. My husband and I weren't close enough to a planned no Kings rally on March 28, so we put one on no King shirts and hiked all over Bryce Canyon National Park. We got nearly universal positive feedback. And thanks for the other hikers. I'm sure you did because you were in a national park and you know, it does skew left. We even met a couple of other people who had the same idea. Shout out to my friends and family who organized such a great rally in Shelbyville, Kentucky that it made international news. The BBC picked it up as well as cbs, Ali Velshi and the New York Times, among others. So proud of these blue dot folks in a deep red part of Kentucky. For my pod tariff, I am submitting a pic of one of the dogs who joined our Bryce Canyon protest. Can you guess that he's a blank? And photo from the rally in Shelbyville. I'm so proud of these small town folks who are standing up for what is right. Right against long odds in their community.

[Allison Gill]

Oh, look at this amazing photo. That view is incredible price.

[Dana Goldberg]

It really is. It looks like a. A little St. Bernard mixed with a. Like a collie, but I know it's probably not.

[Allison Gill]

I. I think that's a Bernese mountain dog is what I think that is. That coloring is pretty distinct. Bernese mountain dog. All right, all right. We're getting better.

[Dana Goldberg]

Better.

[Allison Gill]

We're getting better.

[Dana Goldberg]

That is a good crowd at the new Kings in Shelbyville, Kentucky. That's awesome.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, that is a great photo too. All right, next up from Jim He Him. Albuquerque's number three Kings march was great. The best yet. A huge crowd filling one of the biggest parks in town. A lot of good signs. A lot of support for the LGBTQ community, rights, immigrants and veterans. Great speakers, including Stacy Abrams. Nice. The march filled two lanes in the sidewalk of the major streets on the road route. Drivers coming the other way, honking, waving, cheering, holding up their own signs. For my picture tax, I'm attaching some from the park. The second is my sign. Thanks for all you do. It's a picture of Donald Trump and it says, does this ass make my country look small? Yep. And it's not left or right. It's right or wrong. I love this. Semper Fi.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

Fantastic. Thank you, Jim.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right, next up from Jen Pronoun. She and her hey beanie buddies. I'm sure I wasn't the only one filled with rage, listening to Ag report on useless Steve Scalise and the planned theft of healthcare dollars to fund this pointless war. Scalise is up for reelection and this time he has a challenger. Lauren Jewett is a public school official education teacher running against Scalise in Louisiana's first I'm volunteering with her campaign and have gotten to spend some one on one time with her. She is delightful, hardworking, exact who we need fighting for regular families of all types. Louisiana is too often written off, but it shouldn't be, especially this year. Hoping Beans listeners will check out Lauren and consider donating a few bucks if you can. And we're going to have a link to her in the show notes My pot pet tariff is my cat Etouffe who says fuck the patriarchy and my sign and handmade umbrella from our no Kings march here in New Orleans. Thanks so much for all you both. Do you I'm a child psychiatrist who works with trans and non binary youth and oh my God, did Jay deliver so much hope this morning? Jen Absolutely. Thank you for what you do. And if for those of you that don't know what we're talking about, it was yesterday's episode or Jay from It Gets Better, this incredible youth activist and the interview was wonderful. So that's what Jen's referring to. So if you missed the episode, go back and listen to the interview with Jay. It's worth your time.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And again, if you want to help, continue to match that $10,000 donation Daily Beans made. It's itgetsbetter.org DailyBeans donate and Jen, thank you so much. I'm going to check out Lauren Jewett. There's nothing like a special education teacher. It's just, just amazing people. Thank you. All right, next up, Anonymous pronoun She and her Greetings bqs. I like that I couldn't make it to no Kings Chicago this past weekend, but I think I had a good excuse. I already had tickets to C2E2, the Chicago Comic and Entertainment Expo. Yes, and two of the guests this year Will Dual Hill and Martin Sheen. Their photo ops and panel were roughly the same time as the heart of the rally. Mr. Sheen, wearing a no King's pin that someone gave him, made sure that if this panel was not at the same time, he would have been out with the rest of us that wanted to be there. Both spoke of the activism that has revolved around them from being in the West Wing and also the people who have told them they went into government. Government because of the West Wing for Budgetary reasons. I only got a photo with Mr. Sheen instead of the duo. He was one of the nicest celebrities I've met at a con. Much the chagrin of his handlers that were trying to move everyone through as quickly as possible. He tried to talk to everybody that came by. That is so Martin Sheen, by the way. Yeah, I mentioned that I started listening to his podcast after hearing about it from your show. He was quite pleased that people are listening and enjoying. I have attached my pick with Mr. Sheen from the con. And for my pod pet tariff, I've attached my two troublemakers helping me put fresh bed sheets on. They're both adopted. Marmalade. The orange one was found in the streets with a bad skin infection all over and was slated to be put down before we rescued Tom. The black and white was surrendered when his owner took a new job that was going to have a significant amount of travel. Thanks for all that you do. Molly. Pronoun. She and her. Okay, look, there's Martin.

[Dana Goldberg]

Nice.

[Allison Gill]

Look at the kitties.

[Dana Goldberg]

That is their bed now.

[Allison Gill]

Yes. If you've ever tried to make a bed with a cat. And I have four, it's. It's quite the challenge. C2. E2. Yeah, I saw the Onion was there. That's a very cool expo. So thanks again for that submission. Really appreciate it. And thanks to all of you for sending in your good news. Please flood us with your good news submissions. Dailybeanspod.com click on Contact. I just want to really quickly just say, I'm so sorry. I'm just so sorry the Supreme Court did what it did today.

[Dana Goldberg]

Me too.

[Allison Gill]

And I just want everybody to know that I love you. Yeah. Because that. That's just beyond.

[Dana Goldberg]

I know the people listening to this podcast were, you know, in an echo chamber sometimes. But, you know, I also know that when you know somebody that has gone through something like this, their stories change people's hearts and minds about things like this. And to have the Supreme Court, the highest court in the land, not think about the ramifications of this. And Ketanji Brown Jackson, her descent was just so good. But, yeah, we are sent in love. This is a horrifying decision, and I just don't understand the timing of how these things keep coming down. I understand, like, maybe you can't time the court cases, but fuck, this stuff keeps happening. Like on Pride, you know, there's. There's a law that takes something away. On transgender day of visibility, there's a law that takes something away. It's just. And the cruelty is the point. I just. I'm so angry that this fucking felon and this disgusting excuse for a human being got three Supreme Court justices in there. And I think we need to keep our eyes on that Supreme Court because I think it's going to be a telltale sign of what's going to happen in the midterm arms. Yeah. And I can get more into that and, you know, maybe another episode. But watch the Supreme Court, because if they think they can steal this thing, Thomas and Samuel Lido will stay in. If they think they're going to get their asses handed to them, they're going to retire before November.

[Allison Gill]

That's such a good point too, Dana, that they chose to release that opinion today. Yeah. On a day of joy. On trans. Day of visibility. Yeah. That had to be deliberate. You couldn't, like, hold that for another.

[Dana Goldberg]

I know.

[Allison Gill]

All right, everybody, again, I just wanted to say I'm sorry, but I appreciate you all sending the good news. I really needed that. It's very uplifting. And thank you so much to. To Governor Evers for.

[Dana Goldberg]

For doing something good, trying to balance this out. Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

All right, everybody, we'll be back on your ears tomorrow. Until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health, and take care of your friends, family. I've been ag.

[Dana Goldberg]

I've been ag.

[Allison Gill]

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