Limited Intelligence (feat. Adam Klasfeld; John Fugelsang)

Summary

The Daily Beans – Episode Summary: Limited Intelligence

Release Date: June 27, 2025
Host: Allison Gill & Dana Goldberg
Featured Guests: Adam Klassfeld (All Rise News), John Fugelsang

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1. Introduction

In this episode of The Daily Beans, hosts Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg dive into a myriad of pressing political and social justice issues with their signature blend of insight and snark. From high-profile legal cases to Supreme Court rulings and local political controversies, the duo sets the stage for a comprehensive discussion aimed at keeping listeners informed and engaged.

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2. Main News Highlights

a. Legal Proceedings and Judicial Decisions

Allison kicks off the episode with a rundown of significant legal developments:

• Judge Sinise's Order: An expedited briefing schedule has been ordered in the government's motion to dismiss the Abrego case and Mr. Abrego's motion to transfer his case to Maryland, aiming to block the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) from deporting him.

• Judge Murphy's Jurisdiction Ruling: Judge Murphy has affirmed his jurisdiction to consider Gavin Newsom’s amended complaint aimed at halting the deployment of the military in California, despite the Ninth Circuit Court's previous stance.

• Supreme Court Decision on Planned Parenthood: In a 6-3 decision along ideological lines, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of South Carolina's effort to defund Planned Parenthood. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, alongside her liberal colleagues, dissented, emphasizing the decision undermines the 1871 Civil Rights Act.

  "South Carolina asks us to hollow out that provision so that the state can evade liability for violating the rights of its Medicaid recipients to choose their own doctors. I would not." (05:46)

b. Political Scandals

• Eric Adams and Campaign Consultant Scandal: Mayor Eric Adams has come under fire for hiring Trent Pool, a campaign consultant accused of strangling his girlfriend.

  "The consultant... was charged with strangling and assaulting his girlfriend at the Soho Grand Hotel." (06:36)
  Allison expresses surprise over the prolonged disbarment processes for figures like Ken Cheeseborough, John Eastman, and Rudy Giuliani, highlighting issues of due process and accountability.
  "But it's due process, I guess. Due process for some and not for others." (04:07)

c. Legislative Actions

• Senate Parliamentarian's Ruling on Medicaid Cuts: Elizabeth McDonough has rejected key Medicaid provisions in the Senate GOP's billion-dollar bailout bill, thwarting Republican strategies to cut federal spending. This decision poses significant challenges for Senate Majority Leader John Thune as Republicans scramble to revise or bypass the parliamentarian's stance.

  "The decision could force Senate Majority Leader John Thune... to reconsider his plan to bring the Senate bill up for a vote this week." (09:28)

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3. Interview with Adam Klassfeld (All Rise News)

All Rise News' Adam Klassfeld joins Allison to discuss the intricacies of the Abrego Garcia case, shedding light on recent courtroom developments and the broader implications for immigration policy.

Key Discussion Points:

• Courtroom Dynamics: Adam describes the emotional scene during the Tennessee hearing, highlighting the limited interaction between Kilmar Abrego Garcia and his wife on their wedding anniversary.

  "During that hearing... they didn't have much time to interact or even look at each other until a court recess..." (15:37)

• Legal Strategies: Klassfeld emphasizes the robust legal defense team backing Mr. Abrego, including former deputy criminal division chief Rascoe Dean and Sean Hecker, known for his role in the E. Jean Carroll case. He critiques the government's stance on ICE's deportation capabilities, questioning the inconsistency in their promises to cooperating witnesses versus Mr. Abrego.

  "Why is it Mr. Hecker pointed out that they are... when it comes to Mr. Abrego, they are suddenly, in Mr. Hecker's words, impotent to do anything." (19:15)

• Community Impact: Adam underscores the broader community concerns in Nashville, where immigration raids and laws criminalizing the disclosure of ICE agents' identities have stirred significant unrest and activism.

  "There's a big raid here exactly one month before Mr. Abrego's arraignment... there are a lot of names we don't know." (25:25)

• Future Developments: He anticipates upcoming motions and potential decisions that will further determine Mr. Abrego's fate, while also highlighting new DHS regulations imposing stricter penalties on immigration law violations.

  "We're going to be keeping an eye on all of this. Check out Adam Klassfeld and make sure to follow and subscribe to All Rise News..." (29:57)

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4. Fugelsang Fridays with John Fugelsang

John Fugelsang joins Allison for a robust discussion filled with critical analysis of current U.S. policies and political maneuvers, particularly focusing on the Trump administration's handling of international affairs and domestic governance.

Highlights of the Conversation:

• U.S. Military Actions in Iran: John critiques the recent military strikes on Iran's nuclear sites, labeling them as ineffective and driven by misleading narratives from the administration. He highlights discrepancies between official statements and actual outcomes, emphasizing the lack of substantial impact on Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

  "A half a billion dollars to blow up some empty basements and vending machines like a military Trump University." (35:29)

• Media and Misinformation: The conversation delves into the role of media in perpetuating or challenging misinformation, especially regarding high-stakes international conflicts and domestic policy failures.

  "We need the media to say it. And we need the media and the Democrats to say foreign and domestic. We can't believe anything this man says." (37:55)

• Internal Government Issues: John discusses the whistleblower revelations concerning DOJ officials instructing to ignore court orders, underscoring systemic issues within the Department of Justice under the current administration.

  "He [Emil Bovey] said he didn't recall. Yeah, he lied under oath." (39:04)

• Election and Political Strategy: The hosts debate strategies for the Democratic Party to counteract Republican tactics, stressing the importance of grassroots movements and authentic candidate selection over established political machinery.

  "If you had told me in the 90s that within 25 years we would see a black president, marriage equality, and decriminalized weed across the country, I wouldn't have believed it." (47:47)

• Future Outlook: John and Allison discuss the critical importance of flipping the House to enable more effective legislative oversight and accountability, emphasizing that only with a Democratic majority can the ongoing misconduct be adequately addressed.

  "That's the only way it'll happen because these Republicans can't do it. They're terrified, they're amoral, they're spineless." (41:16)

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5. Good News Segment

The Good News segment serves as a beacon of positivity amidst the heavy political discourse, featuring uplifting stories and listener submissions showcasing community support and personal triumphs.

Notable Submissions:

• Andrea Pronoun from Queens: Andrea shares her experience attending a No Kills rally in NYC, highlighting the sense of community and support she received despite adverse weather conditions.

  "There were people dressed as emperors, dogs in strollers, dogs in raincoats, and just so many happy people." (55:55)

• Melissa H. Pronoun from Mendocino County: Melissa promotes the Portland Fruit Tree Project, a nonprofit focused on harvesting urban edible fruits to support local food banks.

  "PFTP is just a few days away from the end of their spring fundraising, and they've only made it halfway to their $15,000 goal." (59:00)

• Deborah Pronoun: Deborah shares her father's venture into publishing political poetry on "Trumpianity Us," celebrating creative expressions opposing the current political climate.

  "It's called the Trump Jump. Ours is not to wonder why when Trump says jump, we reply how high?" (59:29)

• Nicole from Portland, Oregon: Nicole highlights the Portland Fruit Tree Project's efforts and emphasizes the importance of mutual aid and community support in times of federal aid cuts.

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6. Conclusion

Allison and Dana wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to engage with their communities, support grassroots initiatives, and remain informed about the ongoing political and social justice issues. They also tease upcoming episodes featuring more in-depth analyses and guest interviews, ensuring that The Daily Beans continues to be a vital source of progressive news and discussion.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• "South Carolina asks us to hollow out that provision so that the state can evade liability for violating the rights of its Medicaid recipients to choose their own doctors. I would not." – Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson (05:46)

• "Why is it Mr. Hecker pointed out that they are... when it comes to Mr. Abrego, they are suddenly, in Mr. Hecker's words, impotent to do anything." – Sean Hecker (19:15)

• "He can't stop lying. He just can't stop." – John Fugelsang (39:03)

• "What makes a man is, are you strong enough to be strong for others?" – John Fugelsang (47:05)

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Final Thoughts

The Daily Beans successfully navigates complex legal and political landscapes, offering listeners a thorough yet accessible breakdown of current events. Through engaging discussions and expert interviews, the podcast not only informs but also empowers its audience to stay active and involved in the fight for social justice and political accountability.

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Transcript

[Allison Gill]

MSW Media. Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Friday, June 27, 2025. Today, Judge Sinise orders an expedited briefing schedule in both the government's motion to dismiss the abrego case and Mr. Abrego's motion to be moved to Maryland and to block DHS from deporting him. Judge Murphy has ruled that he does have jurisdiction to consider an amended complaint from Gavin Newsom to stop the deployment of the military in California. The Senate parliamentarian has rejected key Medicaid cuts in the billionaire bailout bill Kenneth Cheesebrough. The cheese is disbarred in the state of New York. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of South Carolina his bid to defund Planned Parenthood. Mayor Eric Adams hired a campaign consultant accused of strangling his girlfriend in a soho hotel. And the White House is going to limit intelligence sharing with Congress. I'm Allison Gill.

[Dana Goldberg]

And I'm Dana Goldberg.

[Allison Gill]

Oh, hey, Dana. Happy Friday. Quite a mixed bag of news we have.

[Dana Goldberg]

I can't even tell you how far back in my head my eyes rolled when you read that Eric Adams headline. Like, man, I know, come on.

[Allison Gill]

I think he's running as an independent in the general.

[Dana Goldberg]

She would just run literally the other direction.

[Allison Gill]

Just run, run away.

[Dana Goldberg]

Run away from New York.

[Allison Gill]

It is, it's, it's pretty, it's pretty mind boggling considering the charges of bribery and obstruction of justice.

[Dana Goldberg]

I know.

[Allison Gill]

That were surreptitiously dropped by this Trump administration. But, you know, we also have a lot going on with the Abrego case. And I'll be speaking with Adam Klassfeld from All Rise News about the last two hearings that we've had. One about his detention on his criminal charges in Tennessee and one in Judge Sinis courtroom about what happens if and when he's released and if DHS detains him and tries to deport him again to El Salvador or maybe a third country. So we're going to cover all that a little bit later. And it's Fuglsang Fridays on the beans. So we're going to be talking to John Fugelsang too.

[Dana Goldberg]

Fantastic. And as you're listening to this, it's already the day after. But as we're recording this, it's the 10th anniversary of Obergefell and this is 10 years of marriage equality in this country. He was my gay the day hero. And I just want to give it up to all the BEANS listeners who always show up when you are asked to do anything. It's amazing. Thank you for sharing that. I Think the video is up to 13,400 views. So you sharing it to your people, it helps. It helps. So it's, it's wonderful. I appreciate you very much.

[Allison Gill]

That's awesome. That's. I love that many people are sharing your videos. That's so very cool.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

Also something happened today that's pretty interesting. Or last night, Judge Murphy, who was the original judge that said that Gavin Newsom should get control back of the National Guard. And then the ninth Circuit said no. Well, they filed again with Judge Murphy, Gavin Newsom, asking him to retain jurisdiction to consider violations of the Posse Comitatus act because the ninth Circuit didn't consider any of that. And Judge Murphy has allowed it and he's allowing a little bit of expedited discovery in that case to see if Gavin Newsom can retain control of the National Guard even though it's on pause at the ninth Circuit. So it's a little bit kind of back and forth there.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right, well, I've got a little good news at the top of this, this episode. Ken Cheeseborough, the cheese. The cheese. He has been disbarred in the state of New York.

[Allison Gill]

Oh, good.

[Dana Goldberg]

I know, right?

[Allison Gill]

It's, it's, it's surprising to me how long it takes to disbar somebody like a Ken Chisbro or John Eastman or a Rudy Giuliani.

[Dana Goldberg]

Like, it really is sort of shocking. Yeah. It's a weird, like, tenure that they have in there.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. But it's due process, I guess. Due process for some and not for others.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's basically it.

[Allison Gill]

And we're going to cover that. The cheese. We're going to cover that in depth on the next cleanup on aisle 45. All right, we have a lot to get to today. We have a big show. We've got two interviews. But first we have to hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right, first up from NBC. The Supreme Court on Thursday hates women again. They ruled for South Carolina in its effort to defund Planned Parenthood, concluding that individual Medicaid patients cannot sue to enforce their right to pick a medical provider. A court held in a 6, 3 ruling alongside ideological lines with the conservative justices in the majority, that the federal law in question does not allow people who are enrolled in the Medicaid program to file such claims against the state. The. The ruling written by Gorsuch is a boost to the state's effort to prevent Planned Parenthood from receiving funding through Medicaid, a federal program for low income people that is administered by the states because it prevents individual patients from enforcing their right to choose their preferred healthcare provider. The ruling also could give a boost to other Republican led states that choose to follow suit now. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented along with her two liberal colleagues writing her opinion in her dissent that the decision was part of a long line of rulings that has undermined the 1871 Civil Rights act that was enacted after the Civil War to allow people to sue for civil rights violations. Quote, south Carolina asks us to hollow out that provision so that the state can evade liability for violating the rights of its Medicaid recipients to choose their own doctors. She said the court abides South Carolina's request. I would not.

[Dana Goldberg]

I really love the liberal justices. I feel like their decisions, their write ups, their dissents, even their opinions are just so much more cogent and coherent than I, I really do.

[Allison Gill]

Than these other ones hang out somewhere together and just like what the, you know, like just.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, I know that they talked about Ruth Bader Ginsburg being friends with Alito and when they're outside of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I think this is a different court. I would be shocked if Katanji Brown Jackson is breaking bread with Justice Thomas. Like I would be shocked.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, probably not.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right, we're moving to the Gothamist. I this is where my eyes rolled. As Mayor Eric Adams prepared to skip the Democratic prim, run for reelection as an independent this spring, he turned to a prominent campaign consultant who had been accused of assaulting his girlfriend in an upscale Manhattan hotel. That consultant is Trent Pool.

[Allison Gill]

Yep.

[Dana Goldberg]

It's the latest Adams associate facing criminal charges or a high profile investigation. The latest associate, by the way. Not the only one. Yet. When Gothamist reached out to Adam's campaign about the charges against Pool, a spokesperson said that they were unaware of the charges and have since terminated work with him. Oh, I didn't know because I was hoping no one would find out.

[Allison Gill]

I'm only in charge of the whole fucking city. I can't possibly be expected to know who's been arrested.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's right. City campaign finance disclosures show Adams paid Pools's Wyoming based firm public appeal, $175,000 since April to help gather petitions that would allow him to be on the ballot this November under an independent party line. When Adams first began paying Pool's firm, the consultant was already fighting charges tied to the alleged April 27th of 2024 incident. Was charged with strangling and assaulting his girlfriend at the Soho Grand Hotel. Prosecutors allege he, and I quote, and this is a trigger warning And I apologize that we didn't give this at the top of the story. But this is the worst part of it, that he hit her in the face with a closed fist twice, causing her to cry, covered her nose and mouth until she was going in and out of consciousness and strangled her. By the way, Pool has pleaded not guilty.

[Allison Gill]

Of course he has.

[Dana Goldberg]

Right.

[Allison Gill]

I'm sure he's got some real high powered attorneys paid for by the city. All right, next up from NBC, the White House plans to limit intelligence sharing. First of all, just putting intelligence and White House together in the same sentence is a little hard for me to read there. But they're going to limit intelligence sharing with members of Congress. After an early assessment of damage, or the lack thereof caused by the US Strikes on Iran's nuclear sites leaked this week, a senior White House official confirmed this to NBC News. The administration specifically plans to post less information on CapNet. That's the system used to share classified material with Congress. The decision, which almost certainly won't sit well with Democrats, comes as top cabinet officials are set to provide a classified briefing to members of the Senate on Thursday afternoon about the strikes. And by the way, they did that and Senator Chris Murphy walked out and said, yeah, Trump lied to us. Yeah, these aren't obliterated. Despite the administration's crackdown and Johnson's Mike Johnson's suspicions, it's not known whether the leak actually came from a member of Congress. And considering that the Democrats weren't even briefed, but the Republicans were, you would think lawmakers had access to the initial assessment regarding the strikes from the Defense Intelligence Agency and were able to view it in a secure location in the Capitol known as a skiff. As NBC News previously reported, the assessment was transmitted to leadership through these official channels.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, I wouldn't even be surprised if it was someone high up because that way they can make it look like, oh, Democrats in the news, blah, blah.

[Allison Gill]

Blah, blah, blah, who knows?

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

Anyway, we're talking shit show of a goddamn administration. Who the fuck knows?

[Dana Goldberg]

All of them. We're switching gears, give you a little bit of good news. This is from the Hill senate parliamentarian Elizabeth McDonough. She's rejected key Medicaid provisions in the Senate GOP mega bill, that big beautiful bill. A ruling that appears to strike a major blow to Republican strategy for cutting federal spending. The Senate's referee rejected a plan to cap state's use of health care provider taxes. Provider taxes to collect more federal Medicaid funding, a proposal that would have generated hundreds of billions of dollars in savings to offset the cost of making President Donald Trump's corporate tax cuts permanent. That's according to a Democratic summary of the parliamentarians ruling. The decision could force Senate Majority Leader John Thune, he's the Republican from South Dakota, to reconsider his plan to bring the Senate bill up for a vote this week. The cap on health care provider taxes in both states that expanded Medicaid and did not expand Medicaid are under the Affordable Care act was projected to have hundreds of billions of dollars over the next 10 years, but it would have forced states to shoulder substantially more of the cost of Medicaid coverage. The provision generated strong pushback from several state Senate Republicans, including Josh Hawley. We've seen, we've known that Susan Collins, she was probably very concerned. Lisa Murkowski, who apparently is deciding whether or not she wants to stay, a Republican. And Jerry Moran, a Republican from Kansas, who warn deep cuts to federal Medicaid spending could cause dozens of rural hospitals in their states to close.

[Allison Gill]

So this is about the part where the people who are Republicans would lose hospitals and negatively impact their particular constituents.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[Allison Gill]

Huh. Interesting, but good on the parliamentarian. If this does anything, at least it will prevent them from getting this bill, you know, passed and signed by the 4th of July, which was, you know, their big goal.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

So they, they're gonna have to either fight this or fire the parliamentarian or ignore them altogether, which nukes the filibuster, which I think is a good thing. We'll see what they end up doing. All right, next up, the latest in the Abrego Garcia case with Adam Klassfeld from All Rise News. Stick around. We'll be right back. Hey, everybody, have you ever walked into a wine store or liquor store and had absolutely no idea what to pick? That used to be me until I discovered Naked Wines. Naked Wines is a service that directly connects you to the world's finest independent winemaker so you can get award winning wine delivered straight to your door. Go to nakedwines.com dailybeans and use code dailybeans for the code and the password to get their incredible deal of six bottles for just $39.99. Naked Wines connects winemakers directly with wine drinkers like us. No middleman, no overpriced retail markups. You get amazing wines for up to 60% off what you'd pay in the store. I also love how easy it is to explore different types of wine. And it's sort of the algorithm, like Netflix, like makes my selections. They offer up more tailored to my tastes. There's no pressure. And because I am able to rate the bottles, my next shipment is even more tailored to my preferences. So it's been around over 15 years. Naked Wines they fund more than 90 independent winemakers around the world and the mission is simple. Create wine into your hands, made by real people at better prices and it works. The wine is amazing. It's so nice and relaxing to set some time apart for myself, read a good book, enjoy a glass of wine. So if you want to drink great wine and support small winemakers while skipping the guesswork and sticker shock of traditional wine shopping, I can't recommend Naked Wines enough. It's like one of my favorite subscriptions I have. So now is the time to join Naked Wines and the Naked Wines community. Head to nakedwines.com dailybeans click enter voucher and put in my code. Daily Beans for both the code and the password and you get six bottles of wine for just $39.99 with shipping included. That's like 100 bucks off your first six bottles. Again, that's nakedwines.com DailyBeans use code and password DailyBeans for six bottles of wine for $39.99 DeleteMe makes it easy, quick and safe to remove your personal data online at a time when surveillance and data breaches are common enough to make everyone vulnerable. As someone who creates content online and interacts with a pretty wide audience, I've always been concerned about how much personal information is out there on the Internet. Being visible doesn't have to mean being exposed, and that's why I signed up for DeleteMe. DeleteMe understands that your privacy matters. When you join, you simply tell them what personal information you want removed, like your home address and phone number and email addresses, and their team of experts handles the process for you. I used to search my name online and find old addresses, old email accounts and family members addresses and phone numbers, and I felt like I had no control. But now Deleteme sends me regular privacy reports that show what they found, where they found it, and what they successfully removed. They also show me how much time I've saved by not having to do it myself. And the best part is, Deleteme keeps working. It's not one and done. They continuously monitor data broker sites and act to remove your information when it pops up again and again. So if you or someone you know has ever dealt with online harassment, doxing, spam, identity theft, you know how important this is. Delete me gives you a simple, effective way to stay protected. So take control of your data and keep your private life private. By signing up for Delete Me now at a special discount for listeners, you get 20% off your delete me plan when you go to JoinDeleteMe.com DailyBeans and use promo code Daily Beans at checkout. Again, the only way to get 20% off is go to JoinDeleteMe.com DailyBeans and enter code DAILYBEANS at checkout. That's JoinDeleteMe.com DailyBEANS code DailyBeans. You'll be glad you did. Hey, everybody. Welcome back. I'm happy to be joined today by Adam Klassfeld of All Rise News, who was at the Mr. Abrego's detention hearing and who also was watching listening in live for the hearing in judge senior courtroom today. Please welcome Adam Classfeld. Hey, Adam.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Hey, Allison. Great to see you again.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, it's good. I'm glad that you're here. Everybody, you just need to know right now that Adam's at the airport. So if you hear complaining strangers or, you know, Auntie Annie's pretzels being woven behind you, that that's what's going on. He's near a Cinnabon. So I wanted to ask you, first of all, what, what your thoughts were about the. The hearing that you went to in Tennessee.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Well, one of the most interesting things about the hearing in Tennessee is not what went down in court, but the context of it. It was the wedding anniversary of Kilmar Abrego Garcia and his wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, and she gave remarks before the hearing at a press conference. Now, I mentioned that because that hearing was meant to determine Abrego's conditions of release, and there was at least going into it the potential of release. But that did not happen because as listeners of this show know, and as folks who've been following All Rise news coverage know, Mr. Abrego may be put in immigration detention as soon as he's released from pretrial detention. So during that hearing, you had his wife, Jennifer Vazquez Sura, sitting in the front row of the pews on the left side of the courtroom, her husband in at the defense table on the opposite end, dozens of feet away. And they didn't have much time to interact or even look at each other until a court recess when they caught several second long loving glance on their anniversary. On a more substantial level, this kind of connects to what happened in Maryland today. During yesterday's hearing in Nashville, there were arguments over what the government can guarantee. If Mr. Abrego goes into ICE custody, will he be deported before he gets a chance to defend himself against the accusations that the Trump administration has been leveling against him? If he does get that chance to stand trial before he's sent to another country, will he be able to await trial at a jail close enough to the courthouse to actually defend himself properly, meet with his lawyers, all of those things? So that is what the hearing focused on. And it was the first time we got to see in action his new all star legal team, including the former deputy criminal division chief of that district, the middle district of Tennessee, Rascoe Dean, and also Sean Hecker, who many folks may remember listening to this show was e. Jean Carroll's law lawyer, helped steer that multi million dollar verdicts, more than $80 million verdicts in two cases. And I wanted to quote one of the things that Sean Hecker said during the hearing, he was talking during the hearing about the government's position that they can't control what ICE does. They operate under dhs, which is a different arm of the government. We'll do our best, your honor, but we make no promises pretending that DHS is naive. Bukele or But Shawn Hecker made a very simple point, which is that, and we've discussed this on the show, Alison, the two cooperating witnesses, the two main cooperating witnesses against Mr. Abrego have gotten promised immigration help from the government in exchange for their cooperation. So why is it Mr. Hecker pointed out that they are, that the government is able to make these promises to these cooperators, but when it comes to Mr. Abrego, they are suddenly, in Mr. Hecker's words, impotent to do anything.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And I thought it was interesting in Mr. Abrego's filing where they said, you know, we don't understand why you're objecting to this release because he'll be detained by you if like and the judge was like, the government would just be relieving itself from itself. This makes no sense. But it also seems like in the hearing today in judge Sinis courtroom where they were trying to figure out, you know, does she have jurisdiction to hear a motion that because Abrego Garcia is asking her, hey, can you bring me back to Maryland if I'm in ICE detention and make sure they don't send me to a third party country given what the supreme court just said, or back to El Salvador for that matter, considering I have something that says that I can't be sent back to El Salvador. And if they do, the third country stuff. There could be chain migration, right. Like, they will always send him to Libya and then Libya sends him to El Salvador where he's not allowed to go according to a 2019 order. So judge Sini said, look, this is still kind of in the hands of the criminal thing, and so I'm not going to hear the merits. She sort of yelled at the government because they wanted to make some merits arguments and, and said, look, we get, let's do expedited briefing. We'll have a hearing on July 7th and I'll determine whether I have jurisdiction for that and I'll consider your motion at that time. Seemingly to take the government's word when they said we aren't going to imminently deport him, from my understanding, according to what the government lawyer said in the hearing today, I don't know, though. And then I remember the Abrego Garcia's lawyer said, well, can we at least ask the court to tell him they have to give us notice if they plan on sending him to a third country? And she's like, that's not in my hands. If he's released down in Tennessee, you're going to have to file for consideration down there once he's released, basically, absolutely.

[Adam Klassfeld]

And listening to everything that you said just now, Alison, it just becomes put into sharp relief just how hard Kilmar Abrego Garcia's attorneys are working in multiple jurisdictions to get a good outcome for their client and to put this into really stark relief here. The family of Kilmar Abrego Garcia has been through a lot. He has three special needs kids. His wife discussed the difficulty of traveling without her children from Maryland to Tennessee every time one of these hearings rolls around. And one way in which Mr. Abrego seems to be blessed is with legal talent. They are trying to find every way that they can guarantee the best outcome at a time when the government is trying to seemingly gamify things as much as they can to whisk people out of the country like him. And one of the things that I will be looking for going ahead, will, after what you described, his new criminal defense attorneys, high powered attorneys, Eugene Carroll Stormer lawyers and others, file a motion, motion to delay things enough so that they are better positioned once this hearing comes to a head in Maryland, his other very accomplished attorneys there can get the best outcome. And in the final scheme of things, will he have a chance to actually be released to Maryland with his family pending trial, where even before his new all star legal team, he was rigorously defended by the federal defenders in that district. And they really undercut the government's evidence significantly already.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And that's what's been on my mind. Like, what is the best outcome here for Mr. Abreco? Because he, first of all, if he stands trial, if this makes it to trial and isn't, you know, tossed out on pretrial motions or anything like that, if he makes it to trial and he's acquitted, what is his, you know, destiny? Is he going to be deported? He can't be deported to El Salvador unless they overturn that. Are they going to send him to a third party country which has been stayed by the Supreme Court? Does he get due process there? Is there a way he can remain in the United States with his family? And if, if anyone can, you know, get to making that happen, it has to be this team of lawyers on both cases.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Right. And to put a little bit of history in here, I remember not too long ago when Kristi Noem was being grilled by the US Congress about Mr. Abrego, who she said would never, ever come back to the United States. Well, here he is back in the United States, and the government is saying he will never be released onto civilian US Soil. So let's see if that's a kind of mark my words moment that fails once again for the Trump administration. One other thing that I would point out about this potential hearing, we're currently awaiting motions on both the government and Mr. Abrego's attorneys on whether he'll be, if put in ICE custody. Will he be in this district, the middle district of Tennessee, or will he be in a far away place? We can learn that as soon as the end of the week. Or they could delay things. So there's news breaking soon, maybe even as this episode airs.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And something else we have to remember, too. One of the things that is going to happen between now and that hearing is that Kilmer Abrego is going to be able to supplement his initial complaint. And I'm assuming that Erez Reuveni's whistleblower letter is going to make its way into that, into that complaint. And if I think if there's anything, if he's got any chance of, you know, staying here or fighting his deportation, it might lie in that whistleblower letter.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Right. And one other big picture thing that I wanted to insert into this conversation, when I mentioned how much legal firepower he has on his side before this week's hearing, I had the opportunity to speak to some people on the ground here, local activists and a local council member who told me a little bit about what's going down in Tennessee. And in Nashville in particular, there's a big raid here exactly one month before Mr. Abrego's arraignment. That's part of the reason why there were hundreds of people who showed up on a rainy day to protest outside of the courtroom when it happened. So there are some. The reason it resonates with the community is that a lot of folks in the community, what I've been told is that folks in the community still don't know where their family members are. They don't have the high powered attorneys and they're waiting information. And those are the stories that I'm hearing here on the ground. So to give a kind. You know, when a big story takes national attention, like Mr. Abrego's case, it resonates for a reason. I want to draw attention to the bigger picture that we know his name, but there are a lot of names we don't know.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, exactly. I agree with that. And I want to shout it from the rooftops, too. When my personal case for va, when I was in an Oscar nominated film and I finally got my claim adjudicated from a VA for pts, I went to work for the VA to ensure that other people got the same consideration because they weren't in a documentary about it. And so I think that thinking about what that professor said on MSNBC about the most important civic unit in the nation is neighbor, and that is why we're seeing so many people upset and protesting, you know, at no Kings and at these courthouses, why people are so upset about what's going on in their communities because people are being snatched off the street, disappeared, incommunicado, and nobody knows where they are.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Right, right. And in a kind of bigger picture of what's happening in Tennessee, what I've been told by one leader of a group that advocates for refugees and immigrants is that there are some crazy laws being passed here criminalizing disclosure of the identities of ICE agents, for example. Now we talk about what's happening around the country where you have agents wearing masks, not being ident, not identifying themselves to people who do not know that they're being picked up necessarily by ICE officials. There's a law here that would even criminalize that sort of transparency. Another law that is being litigated right now would seem to criminalize certain forms of political advocacy by elected officials for sanctuary policies. At least the folks who are suing over that law are trying to. They say that they don't have clarity that if they advocate or if they push for those laws, they wouldn't be subject to criminal penalties. So there's a, that's a lawsuit that's currently being pursued by the ACLU of Tennessee. And another interesting thing about Tennessee background, this is one of the first states that had originally passed the ability to for undocumented immigrants to obtain driver's license. Now, that was later rescinded. But the achievement, the fact that it happened here in Tennessee, a very deep bred, primarily state, though not everywhere, it really galvanized the immigration groups here about two years after the passage of that law in 2001. This group that works, the one whose leadership I spoke to, Turkish, they came into being in 2003. And they've been around. They're advocating, they're assisting Ms. Vasquez to the courthouse to see Abrego. So as we talk about this case, we should see how the local politics speak to our greater national story on immigration policy in the second Trump administration.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And then nationally today, a new DHS regulation, emergency regulation goes into effect, imposing heavy civil monetary penalties for immigration law violations with far less due process. So we're going to be keeping an eye on all of this. Everybody, check out Adam Klassfeld and make sure to follow and subscribe to All Rise News if you get a chance because he'll always, Adam will always put it in context for you, give you the bigger picture while he breaks down the legal details. I appreciate your time today, my friend.

[Adam Klassfeld]

Thank you so much. Alison, always love appearing.

[Allison Gill]

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[John Fugelsang]

Hello. Yes, I have, I have finally given in and the people who own my show and are trying to kill me for the insurance money have made me do a sub stack. And I'm there all the time now, desperately needy. Hello, Allison, nice to see you.

[Allison Gill]

Hello. So every week last Friday, we're like, I wonder what could possibly happen this week. And then we proceeded to bomb Iran. And then we learned that there was supposed to be a ceasefire. And then we were told it was a 12 day war. And then we were told that the sites were totally obliterated and they were not. They pretty much just filled the doors with dirt and they wanted to postpone Iran's nuclear program by three to five years. And it looks like it's more like one to three months.

[John Fugelsang]

Well, yes, but isn't it great we live long enough to, to experience Iraq war reenactments. Isn't that exciting? I mean, civil war is great, but this, this kind of prick waving is what, what I I live for. So they're calling it the 12 day war, Dr. Gill. I'm calling it the dick measuring contest that lit itself on fire that's what I'm calling it. There were so many lies in here. And again, I know that war is great for ratings. I know we're all living on this 20th century mindset for broadcast, but I'm a bit surprised the media was so scared to call out the sheer volume of lies that Donald Trump told to his supporters. At this point, whenever I deal with a Republican on camera or off, I just say, can you please tell me why smart people should believe anything Donald Trump says? And then I asked them, it's been 156 days since the inauguration. Please name one of those days where he didn't lie to you. Month and date. Try it with your right wing friends. They can't do it. So the, the big lie was the Ceasefire, right. That was like arsonist as firefighter propaganda. The two countries were bombing each other right through the ceasefire. He was like the director of Ceasefire the musical on opening night and the cast was still like trading blows backstage. Then as you pointed out, Secretary of Jagermeister Hegseth came out and said Iran's nuclear program was obliterated. And we know from satellite imagery that trucks were seen leaving days before they got it all out of there because Donald Trump was announcing for weeks that he was going to do something. So they knew to get it all out of there. And that place was cleaned out and vacuumed and probably Febrezed before we dropped bombs on it. We spent about a half a billion dollars to blow up some empty basements and vending machines like a military Trump University. And the UN checked the radiation levels, no abnormal readings. So you tell me you're the scientist wouldn't obliterated uranium leave some kind of glow? Alison?

[Allison Gill]

Maybe some kind. Yeah. And I mean, when you say like, everybody get out of Tehran, all 10 million of you. Yeah. I think that's your cue to go and move all of your centrifuges and enriched uranium, about 60% enriched uranium. You need about 90%.

[John Fugelsang]

That's right.

[Allison Gill]

For a weapon. Moved all that out and. Yeah. Nothing. No. And then of course, Natasha Bertrand reports on it and then Trump calls for CNN to fire her.

[John Fugelsang]

That's right.

[Allison Gill]

So it's just a. I mean, mission accomplished. I just, I don't know what else to say about it.

[John Fugelsang]

Oh, well, let's. Let's throw in the lie about regime change. Because Marco Rubio, who I think his spine is in the Smithsonian under extinct vertebrates, he said it wasn't regime change. Pete Hegseth put down his Call of Duty game and said this Wasn't about regime change. And then Caligula goes on truth social and goes make Iran great again, why not regime change? So, like, it's not just a. It's a war with no adult supervision, essentially. Alison. And then the fourth lie was about the intelligence, because every American intelligence official, even Trump's own, said that Iran was not building a bomb. They were not enriching weapons grade uranium. They were not, not doing any of that. Tulsi Gabbard, who has somehow been tricked into cosplaying Condoleezza Rice, publicly testified it. But we go by vibes, right? This is the astrology presidency. We go by Trump's gut. His gut told him it had nukes, like his gut told him Covid would disappear by Easter of 2020. And disinfectant might be medicinal if you inject it. And the tariffs lower price. At this point, Allison, we should assume that Trump's gut refers to a second dumber brain in his colon. And the biggest lie they told us was that undoing Barack Obama' made us safer. Obama had a verifiable deal with these people and it worked. And our Pentagon kept saying it worked. We knew where the uranium was, we had inspectors on the ground. Diplomacy was working. And as you know, man baby ripped it up like a cat on meth. Under Obama, Iran enriched uranium at 3.67% under Trump, as you said, at 60%. So now we're bombing the same sites that were under control eight years ago, that were regulated eight years ago, defunded eight years ago, and we're pretending this was progress. We have no objective, no congressional approval, no international backing on this. And we can't believe anything the President says. And Iran, they got more time. They can now go ahead and race faster to build a bomb while Trump's tweeting childish, homophobic at Anderson Cooper. I mean, if they do have nukes, Iran, they win. They got more time, more leverage, more motivation, fewer inspectors. And Trump just gave himself another A for not checking his own homework. I mean, the NATO summit shows that the rest of the world's laughing at us.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, and we got used to that in the first Trump administration. Breaking news from NBC. After a classified briefing with Cabinet officials, Senator Chris Murphy says, I walk away from this briefing still under the belief that we have not obliterated the programs. The president was deliberately misleading the public when he said the program was obliterated. So our US Intelligence agencies are still reporting that this did not obliterate the nuclear program in Iran. So we were. We're not even Back to square one. We're 10 steps back because now we picked the hornet's nest.

[John Fugelsang]

And I love Chris Murphy. He's doing great. He's been one of the real rock stars of the last 156 days. But we don't need to say misinform, please. We need to say lie. Guys, I'm tired of hearing misinformation, disinformation, prevarications, obfuscations, falsehoods, verified falsehoods. Yeah, whoppers. Oh, they're still saying whoppers. Fucking lies, people. I mean, like, we need the media to say it. And we need the media and the Democrats to say foreign and domestic. We can't believe anything this man says.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, agreed.

[John Fugelsang]

He can't stop lying. He just can't stop.

[Allison Gill]

Also yesterday on the Hill, somebody else lied, Emil Bovey, in his Senate Judiciary hearing for his nomination for the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals. Massive whistleblower. Third 27 page whistleblower letter came out. By the way, Andy McCabe and I have an audio version for free on the Unjustified podcast feed where you can listen rather than spend the 90 minutes reading that letter, if you prefer. And yeah, he basically told lawyers at the DOJ to ignore court orders by saying, tell the court to fuck off. And when asked about it by Adam Schiff. Did you say that? He said. He said he didn't recall.

[John Fugelsang]

He didn't recall. Yeah, he lied under oath.

[Allison Gill]

He did.

[John Fugelsang]

And by the way, this is all because, you know, Donald Trump always punishes people who tell the truth. Remember when he mocked the New York Times reporter's disability? What? And he really did mock his disability. What no one talks about is that was because Serge the reporter would not verify Trump's lie about Muslims dancing on 9 11. So if you tell the truth and make him look bad, he'll punish you for it. And the guy and the DOJ who, who said, Kilmar Brego, Garcia, we made a mistake. It was a mistake to deport him. He was fired.

[Allison Gill]

Mr. Orez Reveni, that's the author. That's the author of the whistleblower letter.

[John Fugelsang]

So he's the one who said Emil Beauvais came out and just pretty much gave it as an instruction to the DOJ to ignore the rulings of federal judges, to ignore the law. He's enforcing lawlessness in the Department of Justice. And it's kind of hard to believe that Pam Bondi doesn't know about this as well when she's denying that she even knows that ICE are wearing face masks. So I mean, these people, it's a special kind of evil. And again, man, the smart Democrats are the ones who are going to promise hands on Bibles and testimony come January of 2027. Because these people are getting really, really messy.

[Allison Gill]

And that's why we need to flip the House. Everyone's like, well when, you know, because I was like, well, there's a whole room full of AUSAs that'll testify that he said that about, you know, off to the courts. Well, when, when are they going to testify? Who's going to make them testify? If we flip the House, that's who's going to make him testify. That's it.

[John Fugelsang]

And that's the only way it'll happen because these Republicans can't do it. They're terrified, they're amoral, they're spineless.

[Allison Gill]

All of them will issue subpoenas and they'll ignore the subpoenas. And then we'll try to make a ref, a referral to Pam Bondi for contempt and she'll ignore it. But still we'll, we'll have, we, we'll try. We can't do any of that. If we don't, if we don't flip.

[John Fugelsang]

That, these people have 18 months to loot and grift as much as they can. And the smart Democrats, hey look, we're talking about the Democratic Party, God bless them, they care about fundraising more than just about anything else. And I'm telling you, the Democrats who play it safe are going to crap out at fundraising. The ones who are willing to look ridiculous, you know, the Al Greens going out there and introducing articles of impeachment. You just watch and see if they don't outraise out fundraise the Democrats who are playing it safe and talking about moderation. You just watch and see. The Chris Murphy's are going to raise a lot more money than the John Federman.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, let's look at mom Donnie in, in New York.

[John Fugelsang]

Let's look at him.

[Allison Gill]

What this says to me. You can strip away all of the politics if you want and just look at the fact that people power beat the money machine just like it did in Wisconsin for the Supreme Court race, right?

[John Fugelsang]

Everything Bernie keeps telling us, everything Bernie has said for all these years, everything that AOC says, I mean, you know, everything that Gene Deb says yet. And this guy did not have the media on his side. Democratic socialist, child of immigrants, state assembly member. And somehow he beats the ghost of Groper's past with Bloomberg money in tow. With Bloomberg money and all the stories I've read about Zohran Mandani since the election the other night. Every story I've read, Alison, falls into two categories. He terrifies the Democratic establishment and he really freaks out the racist idiots. Those are the two. Not so much about the actual policies he wants to fight for, which would be very popular in all 50 states. But. But the Democratic machine can't process this guy because he wasn't created in a lab by corporate consultants. He doesn't owe Mark Penn anything. And he talks about housing like it's a human right, which actual Christians would do. But he didn't hire a PR firm to find the Muslim Joe Rogan. The guy just showed up and he knocked on doors and told the truth to people. And. And the Democrats are terrified. But the MAGA right has lost their racist minds over this.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And I. I'm hoping to see some shifts in the Democratic Party to actually just listen to what the people want.

[John Fugelsang]

Right.

[Allison Gill]

And that's step one is when the DNC this year decided to stay out of the primaries, which I am very, very happy about. Let the people pick their candidates, then come in and, and fund those candidates that the people decide on.

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

And so I will. We'll be keeping a close eye on, on whether they do that. But this is how you do it.

[John Fugelsang]

God bless ranked choice voting. By the way. We're not. New York's not the first.

[Allison Gill]

This is how you do it. With genuine candidates that have great policy and appeal to the people. Now, would a mom, Donnie win in like Orange County? No, but there will be a candidate. But there will be a candidate that can. That will be backed by people power and not giant money. And that is where we need to start. In my. It's not about the message. Everybody's wringing their hands like the message is wrong or we're not going on Joe Rogan. The message is great.

[John Fugelsang]

The message is great. The issues are popular. Democratic positions are substantially more popular across the boards than Republican positions. Stop believing these polls by the corporate media. They don't want someone to upset the order and the system we have.

[Allison Gill]

I mean, stop trying to SC me with the word socialist. Oh, yes.

[John Fugelsang]

Oh my God. He wants to destroy New York City by making it affordable to live in.

[Allison Gill]

Yes, the two party system sucks. Yes, the electoral college sucks. But it's the system that we have. And Mamdani knows that. And that's why he ran as a Democrat. That's why Iran third party. So we need to back the candidates we want and then we. We need to vote in the general for the candidates that win and, and that, and then push them to the left if they aren't left enough. If that, I mean, that's the formula.

[John Fugelsang]

And by the way, if Cuomo had won, I'd be fighting for him. If Cuomo had won, I mean, I wouldn't be fighting because he wouldn't need it. He just coast over and steamroll whoever.

[Allison Gill]

Right. He doesn't need my $6.

[John Fugelsang]

I'd endorse him. But, yeah, but like I, I, you know, you know who Mandani is scary to to landlords. And I think that's if your self worth depends on somebody else's rent being 70% of their paycheck, maybe you should be scared. And I, I also love how the racists are panicking over him being Muslim and a Marxist atheist. You know, like pick a slur and stick to it. Like you can't call him a Sharia law extremist and then call him like a woke gender atheist Maoist. Like they're just throwing hummus at a wall. I mean, the guy says he prays five times a day and he supports public housing. He wants heaven and earth to be more just. He wants poor people to have food and Palestinians to have rights. They can't talk about his policies because this Muslim's policies reflect the actual teachings of Jesus Christ more than any politician who boasts of his Christianity and reflect.

[Allison Gill]

The majority of the Democratic Party and voters in general when they're asked honestly what they like and what they look at.

[John Fugelsang]

How Trump. Trump couldn't talk about housing crisis. Trump didn't talk about rent control, immigration, Trump. Trump mocked his appearance, his voice and his intelligence. Trump launches a racial panic attack. And again, this shows how scary they really are. Trump's not scared of Mamdani because he's a radical. He's scared because he's winning and not because he's crazy. They're all scared because this guy's calm, he's unbought. He talks policy instead of slogans. And he won with this incredible coalition of union people and brown kids and old folks and broke people who are sick of being stepped on. And that's why he doesn't fit any stereotype. He's not violent, he's not radical. He's effective. And if a brown Democratic Muslim socialist can win in New York, then their whole idea of America starts to fall apart. And the last thing I'll say about.

[Allison Gill]

This is and young men, which the Democrats are wringing their hands trying to figure out how to reach. Yeah, there Is there you go knock.

[John Fugelsang]

On doors and talk about issues. And the real fact is Democrats need to take that battle back by saying, hey, you know what makes a man? It's not your ability to dominate and beat people up that makes a guy. What makes a man is, are you strong enough to be strong for others? When you stop putting your own male desires first and devote your energy, strengths, and talents to uplifting other people, helping those who aren't as strong as you be stronger, that's what makes a fucking man. And Democrats can come out and deliver that message, and it'll work across the boards. But, Allison, if you had told me in the 90s that within 25 years we would see a black president, marriage equality, and decriminalized weed across the country, I wouldn't have believed it.

[Allison Gill]

And transgender troops in the military.

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah, I'm not allowed to be cynical. I think it's great. And I think that, you know, people who are scared of Mamdani need to lean in and pay attention to what wins.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, that's. That's the message. Not necessarily what policy or not.

[John Fugelsang]

Real populism over fascist faux populism.

[Allison Gill]

It's that people can beat money again. We saw it in Wisconsin when Elon Musk swooped in and dropped $20 million and then got his ass handed to him by double digits.

[John Fugelsang]

Boom.

[Allison Gill]

And that. That wasn't, you know, a Democratic socialist. You know, whatever monikers they're putting on Mamdani's head, that was just who the people wanted. You're right, like, you're right, like, just listen to us. That's all.

[John Fugelsang]

But they're popular ideas. They're paid family. Paid family leave is incredibly popular with independents and Republicans and Democrats. Child care is. I mean, it's strong for an economy. It's a pro capitalist message. These guys can really run on this. They don't have to just be anti Trump. And again, you know, if Cuomo had run, if Cuomo had gotten the nomination, he would have just sold himself as the anti Trump, and that's important. And he would have beaten them all up, and he would have done nothing to actually change the systems. You know what I mean? We live in the golden age of modest improvements that we hail as sweeping reforms. Cuomo would have improved things. He wouldn't have reformed a damn thing.

[Allison Gill]

Yep. And last thing, hats off to the Senate Democrats and their staffers, especially, who are burning the midnight oil, basically appealing to the Senate parliamentarian on things that in the big bailout billionaire bailout bill that violate the Byrd rule They have gotten so much because they're better. They're just smarter. They're better at arguing against the Republicans and their staffers pulling out one of the Medicaid provisions to cap taxes.

[John Fugelsang]

That's right.

[Allison Gill]

Which is going to save us hundreds of billions of dollars in our.

[John Fugelsang]

The Medicaid ban for transgender care is out now because of the bird rule.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Klassfeld]

The.

[Allison Gill]

I mean, there's so much that. That contempt provision that says that, you know, people who want to file for a preliminary injunction against the lawlessness of this administration have to put down millions of dollars in a bond out. Right. Like all of these things. And they are seriously working 247 round the clock to debate appeal. And they're winning. They're winning these arguments with the parliamentarian and really, really putting John Thune in a corner because he doesn't want to. Want to overrule the parliamentarian because that basically nukes the filibuster.

[John Fugelsang]

That's right.

[Allison Gill]

And it also nukes this idea that they want to get this signed by the Fourth of July.

[John Fugelsang]

Not gonna happen.

[Allison Gill]

While we can't fully stop a Republican budget reconciliation bill that gives billions of dollars in tax breaks to rich people, we can certainly pick apart some of these horrible, horrible parts, what they're calling bird droppings pull out of this bill. And so I just wanna hats off and credit where credit is due. You're right to them working on this now.

[John Fugelsang]

And by the way, those. Those young Democratic staffers that are rewriting this, they are the future of the party. Those people working in the Congress right now, behind the scenes, will be running for office in 10 years and they'll be the future of the party.

[Allison Gill]

Agreed. Anyway, it's always good to see you, my friends.

[John Fugelsang]

Great to see you.

[Allison Gill]

Who knows where we're going to see ourselves next week. It's always like. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

And we learn. We learn every week. Week, as you say. How many. What the ago was that? And we'll. We'll talk about it here on the beam.

[John Fugelsang]

Well, and that's why I've been calling this week World War. What the. But you're exactly right. Thank you for everything you do and for making me smarter. Insaner. And my book is called Separation of Church and Hate. It's on sale now. I just finished recording the audiobook that's on sale now. And we'll have an announcement about a fun book tour in various comedy clubs around this country that's coming up in the next couple of months.

[Allison Gill]

So invite me. I'd Be happy to, to appear on stage with you and ask you about your book.

[John Fugelsang]

Good. I'm trying to. We're trying to book a lot of dates, so thank you so much for all you do.

[Allison Gill]

Wonderful. It'll be a first date I've had in, in a decade.

[John Fugelsang]

Oh, and by the way, the movie Grease turns 47 years old this week.

[Allison Gill]

Why do you choose violence? Why do you have to hit. It's a.

[John Fugelsang]

No, it's good. It's good because If Greece is 47, which means Greece is now old enough to play a teenager in the movie Grease. So keep that in mind. We've come a long way.

[Allison Gill]

That's always my favorite is watching high school movies and there's some 36 year old.

[John Fugelsang]

It's fantastic. I love it. Live for it.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. In fact, I just recently watched Can't Buy Me Love and. Yeah, there were a couple. There were a couple of 30 somethings in that, in that high school.

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

All right, my friend. Thank you. Thank you so much. I appreciate you and I appreciate all the work that you do. I look forward to getting my copy of Separation of Church and Hate. And of course, we'll discuss it here on the beans. And if you want more information and more of John Fuglesang, like I said, you can listen to him weeknights, 9pm Eastern, 6 Pacific, on XM progress channel 127. It's called Tell Me Everything. And if you don't have that, you can always listen to the John Fugal Saying show podcast and check out his substack, My good friend John Fugal Saying thank you.

[John Fugelsang]

I just like hearing you say, check out his stack. I'm, I'm, I'm warming to this. I really am. Thank you, Alison.

[Allison Gill]

All right, everybody, stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. Everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news?

[John Fugelsang]

Everyone.

[Allison Gill]

Then good news, everyone. I love good news on a Friday. Everybody, send your good news to us. Whether it's, you know, just a good news story, maybe some photos of you at a no Kings rally or a march, maybe a shout out to some great community organizing or a loved one or yourself or a small business in your area that could use a boost. Maybe let us know what your theses and dissertation titles are, because those are fun and we love them. Also, you can do a shout out to a government program that's helped you or a loved one, whether it's Medicare, Medicaid, the Affordable Care act, subsidies, section 8, SNAP, WIC, anything, anything at all send it to us. And all you got to do to get your submission read on the air is attach your POD pet tariff, which means a photo of your pet, or if you don't have a pet, an adoptable pet in your area. If you don't have that, just grab a random photo of an animal off the Internet.

[Dana Goldberg]

We'll take it.

[Allison Gill]

We'll take it. That works also if our tax code is pretty lenient, is what we're saying. If you have a family photo, awkward family photos, bird watching photos, which can be an actual bird, or you and your family and friends flipping the bird to Trump and Musk Properties and of course any other, you know, baby photos. Whatever you want to send to us, really, just grab a photo and send it in and we'll read your stuff on the air. Send it to [e-mail] and click on contact. First up from Andrea Pronoun, she and her dear Queens of the Beans. Longtime listener, first time good newser. My husband and I were in New York City on no Kings Day. Oh awesome. I love the city and could visit there anytime at the drop of a hat. We're from St. Louis. We get to act as tour guides for some family members who don't travel much. Travel widens perspectives, especially for the teenagers in tow, so we did all the touristy things. Luckily, the family needed a break on that gloriously rainy Saturday and we headed back to the hotel around lunchtime. I found a no Kings rally at Bryant Park, a mere couple of blocks from our Times Square hotel. While the family rested, I hoofed it down there, made some friends, marched alongside the biggest crowd I'd ever seen moving in the same direction. There were people dressed as emperors, dogs in strollers, dogs in raincoats, and just so many happy people. I want to shout out in particular Aunt Joy and her niece and nephew for adopting me and letting me walk with them and help holding signs and for helping me find my way back home to the hotel. I mean, it's particularly pertinent because we were talking about the NYC mayoral race and about how she was going to rank Mamdani, but she had convinced herself that Cuomo would win. Anyway, I want to shout her out, particularly because I hope she is super happy today. Here's a picture of my super anxiety ridden rescue Biscuit. Oh, POD pet tax. Love you girls. Look at this baby.

[Dana Goldberg]

So sweet. Biscuit's cute.

[Allison Gill]

He's very so. He's very like wary of you. He's like, yeah, I love Andrea. Thank you.

[Dana Goldberg]

Thanks for kicking us off. This one's from Melissa H. Pronoun. She and her. Hi, Ag. I wanted to let you know that Ethelred the Unready. Thank you. Ethelred the Unready is also one of my ancestors. So you have a probably many, many, many times removed cousin who is a county librarian in Northern California.

[Allison Gill]

Heck, yeah. I'd ask for a discount, but libraries are free.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's right. Speaking of my library system, we are pretty dependent on tourist dollars for our sales tax revenue. As you know, California is experiencing a major decline in international tourists. So if anyone wants to visit a region with redwoods, charming fishing towns, award winning wine, and some pretty amazing libraries, come visiting it. Mendocino County. Yeah, it's beautiful. We'll love to see you and sign you up for a library card for my pod pet tariff. Here are my three rescue dogs. I have a McNab named Philo. Philo. Philo. Abortic.

[Allison Gill]

I think it's probably Philo.

[Dana Goldberg]

Philo. All right, we'll go with Philo. Probably a border collie named Emily Star. And would you like to guess the breeds of my little one?

[Allison Gill]

The little one looks like a Corgi. Aussie Chihuahua. Chihuahua Chow.

[Dana Goldberg]

Cute.

[Allison Gill]

Adorable, right? Maybe a Papillon. Just adorable. Let's see.

[Dana Goldberg]

Look at you.

[Allison Gill]

Corgi Papillon. What? Nice through eight breeds out.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's right. Flex it, flex it.

[Allison Gill]

Based on her coat, most likely a cardigan. Cordy Mix. Corgi mix. She's only a year old, so the Papillon hair is still growing in. I've got some dogs right today. That makes me happy. Oh, that's amazing. Thank you for that. Ethelred the Unready. Yeah, that's one of my ancestors. I think he's probably responsible for a lot of people. He was ready in one way, but not in another. All right, next up from Deborah Pronoun. She and her first time listener, Paula Poundstone recommended your podcast on one of her recent episodes. So glad I was paying attention. At 73, I really didn't think I would need to revise my activist soul. Pip wants to say hi. Look at Pip. Hey, what's up? Hey, what's up?

[Dana Goldberg]

That's so cute. That was short. Keep it. Keep it going.

[Allison Gill]

All right, next one from K. Pronoun. She and her hi Beans beacons. My happy place is my sewing room. It's a little quilt factory. There's joy in the colors and in the completion. Better yet, I donate many of them to an organization that makes beds for kids and gives them away free the organization is Sleep in heavenly peace. Oh. Shpbeds.org I hate the name. Makes me think of that somebody died. Oh, I. I liked it. Their motto is no kids sleep on the floor in my town. They have chapters around the country. I'm sharing a picture of the red quilt top hanging on my wall, waiting for completion. Look at this beautiful piece. Oh my goodness.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's amazing.

[Allison Gill]

I love these colors, especially that top right panel with like the orange and the red and the aqua. Oh, it's gorgeous.

[Dana Goldberg]

Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for that. All right, this is from Annie. Pronoun she and her. Hi, ladies. My good news is that my dad just retired from the healthcare industry so he can publish his political poetry on a website called Trumpianity. Trumpianity us. Anyone can download the book for free. And I may be biased, but has some great stuff.

[John Fugelsang]

Stuff.

[Dana Goldberg]

Here's one of my favorites. It's called the Trump Jump. Ours is not to wonder why when Trump says jump, we reply how high? The new GOP oath of office. Gutless obsequious puppets.

[Allison Gill]

Nice.

[Dana Goldberg]

Nice. For potpet tax, I'm submitting two picks. One is my dad's insanely spoiled cat, a rescued farm kitten who was neutered by a TNR affiliated vet, and our beloved rescued pit bull, Rocky. I feel like this picture would be on the COVID of a dog only punk album from the 80s. The Another picture of my two Great Danes, Gabby and Pebbles, enjoying a bucolic life. Bucolic life on our nine acres. I feel guilty that we have it pretty good at a really bad moment in time. Random aside, if you need a break from constant news, take a look at the fascinating genetics of the Merle colored Great Danes and the AKC controversy about whether they are an acceptable coat color.

[Allison Gill]

Drama the tea. Seriously, I need the akct.

[Dana Goldberg]

Who decides this?

[Allison Gill]

Oh, Mike. It's just a bunch of guys in suits that probably. But look at this sweet puppy and the kitty next to him. Oh, that is a very cool coat. Thank you so much for that. Love that poetry. Again, that's Trumpianity Us. You can download the book for free. Next up, Nicole. Hi, Beans. Ladies, I'd love to give a shout out to a nonprofit in my area of Portland, Oregon. I love Portland. This group combines many of the things that are important to me. Mutual aid, feeding the hungry, reconnecting people with the earth, undoing the effects of hostile urban tree policies and seasonal allergies. Unfortunately, this group doesn't do much about my biggest enemy, grass lawns. But I digress. The Portland Fruit Tree Project aims to cultivate and harvest all the edible fruit our urban greenery produces and share it with local food banks and pantries to feed community members. With all of the federal cuts to aid programs, supporting this group so they can gather all the food that's already growing all over our city will help fill the gap. PFTP is just a few days away from the end of their spring fundraising, and they've only made it halfway to their $15,000 goal. Perhaps there will be a few Generous Beans listeners who can help get this group the rest of the way there and help us gather all this fruit. As an aside, would either of you be open to joining our cult, Heaven's Cat Box? It's so funny as you. You know it's not a cult. When people are like, would you like to join our cult?

[Dana Goldberg]

I know you don't really tell people, like, hey, this is a cult. It's just like, hey, do you want to come over and have some Kool Aid?

[Allison Gill]

No, just put these sneakers on.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, we got Nikes for you. Wait, what?

[Allison Gill]

We just mix the two biggest cult scam deaths in history into one thing. We must provide ultimate comfort and satisfaction to our feline overlords for as long as we are able to. Table in the hopes that when the. When the great cat in the sky swipes us off the earth, as a cat swipes your coffee cup off the table, we may be reincarnated as the cat of a childless millennial couple. If yes, tell your cats and they'll pass along the message. Will do, Nicole. As my tariff, including a photo of our overlord Annie. She had to have one of her upper canines removed, so now her lip gets stuck on her gum. Sometimes your guess is to a breed is as good as mine. She's a shelter baby who might as well be part goblin. Thanks for all you do to keep me up to date with the doom spiral. Look it.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, the sweetness.

[Allison Gill]

Oh, it's just a domestic short hair tabby.

[Dana Goldberg]

Probably you're better at kitties than I am.

[Allison Gill]

Just adorable.

[Dana Goldberg]

Nicole, like, that is an allergic kitty. That is a hypoallergenic kitty. That's what I have. Those are all. Those are the two breeds that you. Yep. I know Sphinx and I know the.

[Allison Gill]

Oh, the nakeys. I love the naked.

[Dana Goldberg]

I do, too. I really do. Everyone thinks they look weird. I think they're adorable.

[Allison Gill]

They are. Rub my kids. Yeah, and then they have to wear sweaters all the time because they're cold and you gotta, like, oil them up. Keep Their skin from getting like. Because their skin is very sensitive. Oh, they're adorable. Nakeys. All right, thank you. I needed that good news Friday boost, so I appreciate all of you. Please send your good news to us dailybeanspod.com click on Contact. Even if it's the smallest little thing that made you happy today, something you, you're gonna do over this weekend to take some time for yourself because people are looking for suggestions for self care. Let me tell you. So anything you can share, it's, it's, it's good to share it, but also it's, you know, it helps other people get ideas.

[Dana Goldberg]

Absolutely.

[Allison Gill]

So thank you.

[Dana Goldberg]

Figure it out.

[Allison Gill]

Any, any final thoughts? You got anything cool coming up? I mean, I do just regular awesome stuff. Well, I do.

[Dana Goldberg]

I'm leaving and I realize you either forgot or I'm about to, to upset you. I don't think I'm gonna upset you. I'm out for almost two weeks. I, I have a European work trip that there's no way Allison and I are going to be able to record because I'm going to be on a boat in the middle of the water and the time difference. So I'll be out for a while. She'll have some, you know, she's got that, she's got this. She's got this. She'll probably have some great guests. I'm sure she'll pull in some people that know how to pronounce words better than I do. It's fine. It's fine. But I do want to announce because I won't be here to do it, but I'm sure Allison will remind you. Guys, guys, the HRC gala in San Diego is August 16th, so I am doing a standup show at a small black box called the diversionary theater on August 15th. Tickets have not gone on sale. I have not announced this to the general public, which means if you're in San Diego, you want to keep an eye on my website, which is danagoldberg.com because when tickets go on sale, you'll have the first opportunity to get them. It's only a hundred person theater. It's going to sell out quickly. So I'd love to have as many Leguminati from the San Diego area as possible. So we'll let you know.

[Allison Gill]

Heck yeah. I love the Diversionary. I see so much stuff there. It's just an incredible little, little theater. So I'm so glad you're going to be playing there.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, it's the Queer owned and operated. I mean, it's awesome.

[Allison Gill]

Yay. So when do you leave? When do, when are you out?

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, I fly out tomorrow at 6:00pm yeah.

[Allison Gill]

All right, well, I'll hold down the fort. I'll have some surprise guests.

[Dana Goldberg]

Right on. And just so you know, the day of the day it's going to be scheduled, it'll still drop until the end of June. And I just want to thank everyone for sharing that. That series on all social media platforms got close to three quarters of a million views.

[Allison Gill]

Incredible.

[Dana Goldberg]

So you all rocked it. And I'm glad you learned a lot along with me because I learned a ton about the community that even I didn't know.

[Allison Gill]

Me too. Me too, my friend. All right, everybody, I'll be back in your ears Monday. There's going to be a really big episode of Unjustified on Sunday, as you can probably imagine. If you haven't, you can listen to the audio version of whistleblower Orez Ruveni's letter on the Unjustified podcast feed. It's free. We put that out there so everyone can have access to it. And yeah, we'll see you. We'll see you. You know, I'm always putting something out. So until then, until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health and take care of your family. I've been ag. I've been teaching, and them's the Beans. The Daily Beans is written and executive produced by Allison Gill with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joelle Reader with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might Be Giants and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics and justice. For more information, please visit mswmedia.com msw media.