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Refried Beans | Any Last Words (feat. Mary L. Trump) | Feb 15, 2021
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The impeachment trial of Donald Trump concludes with the largest majority in history voting to convict; Mitch McConnell says Trump is guilty of inciting insurrection despite having voted to acquit on a technicality; more information tying Roger Stone to the attack on the capitol; five Proud Boys charged with conspiracy in the insurrection; Biden asks all US Attorneys but two to resign; Georgia expands its criminal investigation to include Lindsey Graham; inside the impeachment managers’ decision to forego witnesses in the impeachment trial; plus Dana Goldberg (@DGComedy) and AG hit the Hot Notes and deliver your Good News.
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Alison Gill
MSW Media. Hey, everybody, it's Ag. And welcome to Refried Beans, where we play an episode of the Daily Beans podcast from the same week either one, two or three years ago, so we can see how far we've come. So please enjoy this episode from days gone by and note the date in the intro. Refried beans. I like refried beans. That's why I want to try fried beans, because maybe they're just as good and we're wasting time. Larry J. Beans. Jelly beans.
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Dana Goldberg
Jelly beans. Daily Beans.
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Alison Gill
Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Monday, February 15, 2021. Today, the impeachment trial of Donald Trump concludes with the largest majority in history voting to convict Mitch McConnell. Says Trump is guilty of inciting insurrection despite having voted to acquit on a technicality. More information tying Roger Stone to the attack on the Capitol. The five proud boys are charged with conspiracy in the insurrection. Biden asks all U.S. attorneys but two to resign. Georgia expands its criminal investigation to include Lindsey Graham's phone call. And inside the Democrats decision to forego witnesses in the impeachment trial. I'm AG And I'm Dana Goldberg. Hey, Dana, how was your weekend?
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Mary Trump
I love that we stopped asking each other how are you? Because really, who's okay during these times? It's okay. It was good. Nothing terrible happened, which is, knock on wood. I'm not as angry about the trial as I was yesterday, and I know we'll talk more about that through the episode, but I've just sort of calmed down around all of it. I just want him to stop taking over the news cycle again. I would just never love to see his name, if possible. Otherwise, unless it's like Donald Trump's going to prison, then all day, every day, 24 7, shoot it into my veins. Other than that, make him go away.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, that's it. That's all I want to hear is about his investigations into him and his businesses and his children and his, you know, indictments, convictions, sentencing, stuff like that. Yes, yes, I'm all about that.
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Mary Trump
The only Trump I ever want to hear about again as our guest is your guest. The interview.
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Alison Gill
Yes. Speaking of that scrag, we spent a great deal of time today talking to Mary Trump about her reaction to the events of the past week. And it's. She's just, I always feel so much better after I talk to her.
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Mary Trump
It's just nice. I mean, one, we've all become friends, which is really great. So it feels like we're just talking to each other as if we would be sitting over coffee and luckily, we have an audience that likes to hear it. But I think we both have this uncanny way of just bringing out the laughter and the lightness and Mary, over the course of the months, and it's just always a pleasure. So I know that everyone at home enjoys that, and I hope that you enjoy this one, too. It's a good one.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. For real. And also, you can join Dana and me. Hey. Every Thursday at 5pm Pacific on the stereo app. That's 5 Pacific, 8 Eastern. It's like our after party. We sing songs, we do weird things. Things get irreverent. It's so much fun. And I absolutely love the people who join and ask us questions and sing songs to us. It's so much. I can't download the Stereo app.
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Mary Trump
The listeners have been fabulous. Absolutely fabulous participating. So thank you all so much for making our experience even more enjoyable than it already is.
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Alison Gill
Yes. And if you don't have a Stereo account, just download the free app. Go to stereo.com Alison Gill and you can sign up to do that. And it's free, and it's so much fun.
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Mary Trump
Follow us. Yeah, both of us. Give us both a follow. I'm DG comedy on there. You can just put in Dana Goldberg and you'll find it. Dana Goldberg. Whatever. Don't put in the first thing I said because you'll never find me. But definitely put in Dana Goldberg and then hit follow.
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Alison Gill
It's not Dana Goldblum.
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Mary Trump
Dana Gold.
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Alison Gill
And you can also catch Andrew Torres and I from. You know, we do our cleanup on aisle 45 on Tuesdays at 5.
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Mary Trump
So Andrew, Taurus and me.
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Alison Gill
Damn it. I was so good. I was so good all day.
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Mary Trump
Sorry, I had to move away from the mic on that one. My mic's going hot right now, so I'm gonna play with it and we're gonna fix it.
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Alison Gill
Andrew Torres and me. Damn it. Okay. One day, I promise, y'all, I will get it. But until that day, let's hit the hot, hot notes. Okay, so clearly the lead story over the weekend is the impeachment trial of Donald Trump and the events that transpired on the final day of questions and debate. I'm gonna go over the headlines, but we'll be joined later by Mary Trump. As I said, we're gonna discuss the fallout things that happened afterwards. Mitch's speech on the Senate floor, which was weird. So the Senate voted to acquit, but the vote was 57. 43. 67 votes are needed for a conviction. And like I said, Mitch McConnell gave a speech after on the floor of the Senate unequivocally blaming Trump for the big lie and inciting the insurrection January 6, though he ultimately voted to acquit and said he did so for jurisdictional reasons that set a precedent for a January exception going forward, which is very dangerous. I'm scared about that. What was noteworthy about his speech was that he said Trump is now vulnerable to criminal and civil litigation for his role in the attack on the Capitol, paving the way for our future attorney general to investigate and possibly charge him with seditious conspiracy, inciting an insurrection, and perhaps other charges, including indictments under the RICO statute. For example, Lindsey Graham took to Fox News to say Mitch's speech would come back to haunt Republicans in 2022, though I argue that. I would argue and say that their vote to acquit him is what could lead to Democrats holding the Senate in 2022. 20 seats are up for election in the Senate in the midterms, and many of those 43 Republicans, Dana, that voted not guilty went on the record saying they did so only because of the constitutional considerations. And these statements could be used state prosecutors to go after Donald criminally with the argument that he was guilty and would have been convicted by the Senate if not for the jurisdictional issues Republicans decided to hide behind. So we'll have more on the impeachment in a bit with Mary.
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Mary Trump
That sounds good. This next one is basically five very bad people are in a lot of trouble. These alleged members. Five alleged members of the far right Proud Boys group have been charged with criminal conspiracy in last month's deadly attack on the US Capitol that sought to keep then President Donald Trump in power. That's according to a criminal complaint unsealed on Thursday. Federal prosecutors on Thursday also outlined details of a suspected plot by the anti government Oath Keepers group to stage a, quote, quick reaction force outside Washington on January 6th that was ready to, quote, fight hand to hand if ordered to do so by Trump or by the moron Julie Rudy Giuliani. What was it? Combat by hand?
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Alison Gill
Trial by combat?
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Mary Trump
Oh my God. I'm not picking you as my fighter on that game. Two alleged members of yet another right wing extremist militia, the Boogaloop Boys, were arrested by FBI agents in Louisville, Kentucky on Thursday on federal charges of instigating acts of violence through social media. One of the two, John Sublesky, 32, was accused of inciting a riot in downtown Louisville on January 6th in, quote, contemporaneous. Contemporaneous with the Capitol riots in which he and others pointed rifles at motorists and barricaded a number of roads, federal prosecutors said. So they barricaded a bunch of roads in the area. The second man, Adam Turner, was accused of directing threats at police officers. You know, the whole Blue Lives Matter crew, Right? Yeah. The Louisville charges underscore the dimension of right wing extremism across the country in the aftermath of a tumultuous 2019, 2020 elections. The complaint alleges that as far as back as December, ag December, organizers of Proud Boys, including its leader Enrique Tarrio, encouraged their members to travel to Washington D.C. on January 6th. We already know that that was encouraged by the then president. Tarrio was arrested two days before the Capitol riots on charges of possessing two high capacity rifle magazines and for burning a Black Lives Matter banner during the December demonstration by Trump supporters. That's the one that turned very violent. We all saw a clips of that. Now, to date, the United States has charged at least 18 people who are believed to be associated or allied with the Proud Boys. You know, it would be great, AG if this really did go to a federal trial. And I do believe it's going to go to a criminal trial. I want one of them to take the stand. I want one of them to say no. Our organization was found, was funded. I mean, we got money from Donald Trump. We had, you know, we had communication with his administration. He knew exactly what was going on.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, well, that's going to be their defense. Right? That's been the defense of most of the insurrectionists so far as Trump invited us. Trump told us to do it. It's Trump's fault. Now, that doesn't excuse them criminally, but that's what they're going to testify to and that's the defense that they're going to present. And if they were funded by Donald Trump and encouraged, that is going to come up in the defense as well. Do you think any of these folks won't flip on Trump in an instant, knowing that Trump deserted them, didn't give a blanket pardon to them? And in his defense over the last weekend for impeachment, he said, no, it wasn't my fault. They did it on their own and they deserve to go to prison. So you think any of them are going to roll? Probably, yeah. Now, at least six people who had provided security for Roger Stone entered the capitol during the January 6th attack. That's according to New York Times videos show the group guarding Mr. Stone. We know who he is. The New York Times goes on to explain who Roger Stone is. We don't need to Know who he is? All six of these guys are associated with the Oath Keepers. That's the far right anti government militia known to provide security for right wing personal and protesters at public events. Video then showed all six of the security guards inside the Capitol building during the attack. All six of the ones that were shown in video with Roger Stone earlier that day ended up in video inside the Capitol. If you look at the New York Times report, they have their faces circled standing next to Roger Stone. Then they have their faces circled in the Capitol. Now, two of these Oath Keepers have been charged with conspiracy already. Others are seen in the hallways. And so that's. I mean, you know, because at first we were like, oh, there's a video of Roger Stone standing outside his hotel on January 6. He said he had nothing to do with it. Couple days later, oh, he's surrounded by dudes with Oath Keeper patches. Huh? Weird. Oh, he says that they were just his private security and he had nothing to do with it. Now we have video and photographic evidence that those six people were inside the Capitol that day.
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Mary Trump
I think one of the best things, to be honest with you about this, is that all of these guys that got a pardon, Stone, a bunch of other people, they're gonna keep criming. And this is one of them, like, great, you're gonna pardon for these other crimes. These guys are still gonna end up in prison one day. Just have hope. He and Richard Nixon are both going to prison again. One day.
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Alison Gill
He's gonna have this damn Richard Nixon off my back. But, yeah, no, that. But Trump pardoned him before the insurrection. Flynn and Stone meet the Flintstones. He did it before the insurrection, so that is not covered by the pardon.
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Mary Trump
Next story brings me great joy because I want him to go down for this. This is from the Washington Post. An Atlanta area prosecutor plans to scrutinize a post election Day phone call between no one other than Senator Lindsey Graham and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. Or Ben, if you are defending Donald Trump in a Senate trial. Oh, my God, what a bunch of maroons. So they're going to be scrutinizing this call as part of a criminal investigation into whether former President Donald Trump or his allies broke Georgia laws while trying to reverse his defeat in the state. This is according to a person familiar with the probe. Now, the individual who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing probe, said the inquiry by Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis will include an examination of the call. Graham, as we know, a very staunch Trump ally, mate to Raffensperger 10 days after November 3rd election. So during this conversation, and I hope you all recall, Graham asked Georgia secretary of state whether he had the power to toss out all, all mail in ballots, but just in certain counties. Let me give you a clue. The black counties, the predominantly black counties. Ravensberger told the Washington Post this in an interview days later. He said Graham appeared to be asking him to improperly find a way to set aside legally cast ballots. And that's exactly what he did. That is not this isn't appeared to be that. I mean, I understand that everything when you write about stuff like this, it has to be allegedly there's a phone call, he did it.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And if you read the Georgia statute on election interference, it reads like it was written specifically for what Lindsey Graham and Donald Trump did. Like it. Like, there's no way to misinterpret. There's absolutely no way to misinterpret this. So I'm looking forward to see what comes out of this. Now, Lindsey Graham might have a little bit of a different, like, might have a little bit more of a defense than Donald Trump because he said he wanted to get signatures matched, otherwise throw them out. And that could be a defense for him. But this is going to be really interesting. But a few other headlines before we take a break. Biden has, in fact, asked all of Trump's attorneys General. No, Trump's U.S. attorneys, excuse me, to resign, except Durham and the guy investigating Hunter Biden. The next steps are that the applicants will be interviewed by the senators from the state that the applicants are vying for. So there's more to come on that. And we'll talk about that a little bit more on this week's cleanup on aisle 45 podcast. By the way, if you're looking for the Cleanup on Aisle 45 podcast, I found out that cleanup is one word. So if you search clean up as two words, you won't find it. So just clean up as one word. And coming up next, discussion with Mary Trump about the impeachment trial and the Democrats decision to forego calling witnesses. So stay with us after these messages.
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Mary Trump
We'll be right back.
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Alison Gill
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. Dana and I are now joined by Mary Trump or Mary Trump is joined by Dana and me to discuss impeachment. I'm learning about, I'm trying to break my old habit, my old early 1970s habit of saying, and I no matter what. So welcome, Mary. Hello.
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Mary Trump
Hi.
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D
It is great to be here.
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Dana Goldberg
Lies, lies. Is it Mary? Everyone can hear you.
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D
Well, it's great to be here. It's like the circumstances, on the other hand, are less than ideal.
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Dana Goldberg
That's fair. That's fair. It is great to see you.
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Alison Gill
Mary's looking at me a little weird there. I am constantly being corrected on my utilization of, you know, join Dana and I. Because it's joined Dana and me. I said, I didn't say work because. Because in grade school, we were taught that it was. And I. No matter what. No matter what, it was always I. And so, you know, I know that that's not correct.
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Dana Goldberg
Grade school by nuns, apparently. As Mary shakes her head yes. So it was apparently nuns that put this. It was a Catholic grade school. I don't understand this. As a Jew, I'm like, you can have grammatically correct nuns, right? What the.
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D
But did nuns not have grammar?
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Alison Gill
Well, they had yardsticks and I have knuckles.
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D
Yes, you do what you're told. Yeah, yeah.
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Alison Gill
Hard habit to break. But something I wanted to have you on to talk to you about because there seems to be a little bit of a split on Twitter yesterday discussing. Well, first of all, I want to open this by saying that I think the impeachment management team did an outstanding job. They were incredible. They were well prepared. And I also think that, I mean, they got the most bipartisan vote in the history of the United States for impeaching a president for, you know, convicting President 57 43, which is the most. The record prior to that was the first impeachment of Donald where we only. Where we had one Republican cross the aisle to vote with the Democrats. That was Mitt Romney. And so I just want to get that out of the way. I want everyone to know that I think the Democrats did a wonderful job. I love the Democrats. I am still a Democrat. I love the Democrats. Because if you. I've learned that if you do any little bit of criticism or questioning on social media, you will be. There will be throngs of people wondering why you're trying to split the party. I'm not trying to do that. But. There's always a but, right? I also want to say I film better today than I did yesterday. I'm more understanding of what happened today than I was yesterday. I was very upset yesterday. And it's because they said they wanted to call witness. They said they. And they were specifically, according to the Washington Post, looking to just get the testimony of Butler, Herrera, Butler. And then there was chaos and confusion. And then they took a break to call a quorum call to give everyone a chance to settle apparently the Republicans said, we'll block everything you bring and we'll have 300 witnesses, neither of which they could do. Both of those are idle threats, so I'm not sure why anyone was persuaded by that. But they ended up deciding not to call any witnesses, including Butler, and landed on putting a stipulation in the record to get the evidence entered into the record that, you know, that phone call with McCarthy, that profanity laced phone call where McCarthy was like, who the fuck do you think you're talking to? So I'm, I have questions and I was wondering, Mary, what you thought about that initially and has your opinion sort of changed over the last 24 hours?
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D
Yeah, I'm right there with you. I was really upset yesterday because the arguments that were being laid out first were it wouldn't make a difference to the vote. Well, by the same token, neither did the defense, did the prosecution, the brilliant, eloquent, patriotic, necessary prosecution. So what? We shouldn't have had that simply because we knew that the traitors in the Republican Party weren't going to vote to convict the greatest traitor to this country. And I say that even worse than Robert E. Lee, because at least Robert E. Lee was fighting us from the outside.
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Dana Goldberg
Good point.
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D
So, you know, as far as I was concerned, the prosecution wasn't to change minds in this Republican Senate. It was to educate the American people 100%. So the more we know, the better. And I think it seemed again, I also no clue what was going on behind closed doors, but. But I think it was more that there was this hope it would have been better if we'd never thought known that they were going to call witnesses because then it felt like a cave. And I think I tweeted something like, I'm tired of feeling like nobody's fighting for us, even though I know they were. But it felt terrible. It felt like having the rug pulled out again. It felt like Lucy in the football again. And there was so much going on that there was no clear messaging. So it wasn't until some time had passed and people like the brilliant Daniel Goldman were kind of laying out what happened and the reasons why we kind of got the best of both worlds, even though it didn't feel like it, with having Butler's testimony in the record, even though she wasn't going to be called as a witness and that, you know, what the prosecution did with a huge assist from the defense actually was make it clear that Donald needs to be prosecuted in a court in, you know, in the legal system. So I think definitely Feeling better about it than I did yesterday. And again, takes nothing away from that extraordinary job that the House managers did, led by the unspeakably brave Jamie Raskin, who's fabulous. I mean, I would, I can't even deal with that, actually, so I can't even imagine. But, you know, all. To a person, they were, I, you know, it was one of those situations, honestly, where it's like, like, okay, how could any person look at the House managers and look at the Republicans or look at Donald's lawyers and think that our side is in orders of magnitude better, but here we are.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And many Republican senators who voted not guilty agreed that the Dem managers made their case and that Donald was guilty of inciting an insurrection. But because of a jurisdictional technicality, them actually believing, incorrectly, that you can't impeach a former officer, that's why they voted the way they did. And that'll come in handy later, I think, in criminal prosecutions because, you know, I mean, and we'll talk a little bit more about that when we talk about Mitch. But to go over the objections of the witness thing that, that I'm still trying to process because we now have our reasons as to why they didn't. First of all, just as you pointed out, it wasn't to change Republican minds. Right. Witness testimony is the gold standard. Right. It's so much more impactful than a stipulation or a document or a statement. And we've had tons of former US Attorneys and prosecutors on here who will attest to that. Right. That's just sort of a known thing. But a lot of folks were saying, well, the Republicans threatened to delay, to drag the trial out for weeks and delay Biden's agenda. However, if you only called Butler and deposed Butler, you could have wrapped it up within this week, this coming week, Valentine's Day week, I guess, is what you would call it, or President's Day week. And because what they would have done is they would have deposed her via Zoom and then they would have brought clips in or had her testify live at the Senate trial. And that would have still wrapped this week. And this week the Senate is adjourned. They're not working in D.C. this week. They're home in their states. I don't know why I have problems with that, too. I think they should be working in D.C. right now, but that's neither here nor there for this argument. So having her testify wouldn't have delayed anything. So I'm still confused as to why when Butler was a friendly witness and was willing to testify and verified. She was willing to testify today and yesterday. She verified it after the fact. Why they didn't put forth, after they got the votes that witnesses were allowed, why they didn't put forth a resolution to have only Herrera Butler deposed. Now, if they didn't have the votes to do that, then just tell us that that was the problem. Do you know what I mean? Like, I'd be like, sweet, okay, that's a reason not to do this then. But they haven't given that reason. And I'm just still confused as to why they haven't. Why they didn't specifically do that now. I mean, it's over, and we have to look forward, et cetera. And I don't want to harp on it for too long, but I'm just really confused. And I saw Asha Rangapa's change of heart, and I saw Daniel's change of heart, or not change of heart, but his explanation. And I was like, okay, all right, this makes sense. And I love how Raskin, by the way, was like, hey, this was my call. If you have an issue, you can talk to me about it. I thought that was. That accountability was incredible.
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Mary Trump
Yeah.
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D
I mean, it didn't help, though, that we're hearing Chris Koon say that people want to go home for Valentine's Day.
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Mary Trump
He needs to go, right?
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D
He's like somebody. He's like this.
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Alison Gill
This.
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D
This Democrat who still believes in bipartisanship. He needs to go. So Delaware do better. But I think, you know, I trust. I would trust Jamie Raskin with my life. So if that's what he says, I believe him. And it just wasn't clear again yesterday, it wasn't clear if it was his call or if it was the Senate Democrats, some of whom were getting nervous. But I think I could be completely wrong. But I think it's that if Democrats call a witness, the Republicans get to call an equal number of witnesses. And the other problem, you know, which is why, even though I think we should have had Capitol Police officers there, Right. We should have had.
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Alison Gill
You know, staffers.
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D
Thank you. Yes. Staffers. Other witnesses who were, you know, somewhat objective. So although staffers, I'm not So sure because 400 staffers signed a letter urging conviction, but they were all Democratic staffers. There you go. Shocking. So the other problem was that they couldn't get anybody who was actually involved. Like, technically, Butler's, Herrera. Butler's statement is hearsay. They couldn't get Pence or McCarthy to testify. And if they had gotten to testify, they couldn't trust them to tell the truth.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And if they refused, they would have to go to court and it could be like McGahn's refusal to testify and it could take three, four years. Right. To resolve.
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D
Right. And you know, why do something if it's going to damage your utterly air tight case? So I think that's, that's where they landed ultimately. And I get it.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. I'm with you though. I just wish they wouldn't have said they were going to call witnesses and had that vote. I think the, the, the dangling it and taking it away did, did more damage.
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Dana Goldberg
It was sort of like, I feel like it was sort of like Donald getting Covid. When we were like, what? And then, you know, he's in the hospital, we're like, oh, they're like, yo, he's, he got better. And we're like, yeah.
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D
Then the worst possible outcome happened.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah. I just wish he didn't get it at all.
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D
That would have been better.
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Mary Trump
Hopes up.
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Dana Goldberg
Exactly. Would have been better if we hadn't known about the witnesses. Instead we were like, wait, what happened?
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Alison Gill
Right. Yeah. And again, it doesn't take away from their incredible, the incredible job they did. It wouldn't have changed any Republican minds. We are in the same place that we would have been otherwise if we had a witness or a couple of witnesses. We may have had more Americans moved by the testimony, which is the point. But the statement is in the record. And so I'm more okay with it today than I was yesterday. Yesterday I was really upset. I want to talk about Mitch and Mitch's little fancy speech, but I have to take a quick break. Would you mind hanging around?
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D
Not at all.
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Alison Gill
Thanks. We'll be right back. Hey everybody, welcome back. We are here with Dana, Mary Trump and myself. Is that correct? Did I do that right? The three of us are here and we're talking about impeachment and witnesses and the altar, ultimate acquittal of Donald. And I wanted to now talk about what Mitch got up and did afterwards because on one hand I am elated because he has helped Democrats with that speech, probably inadvertently in a really meaningful way. But also it was so disingenuous and against how he actually voted. I was wondering how, like I'm having a hard time kind of meshing those two feelings together. I was wondering what you thought about it.
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D
Yeah. I don't understand why I let these people get to me anymore. Because that's exactly what we should expect. Look, if anything, this is yet another instance in which the brokenness of Our system has been revealed because. All right, so we had 45 Republicans saying that impeaching, not impeaching, convicting somebody who was impeached while he was in the Oval Office is unconstitutional, even though McConnell passed on the opportunity to convict him while he was still in the Oval Office. So it's just, it's utter, utter nonsense on the one hand, but then they, they did the same thing. They still used it as an excuse, even though 55% of senators said, no, it's fine. And that should have been the standard. Like, you should not, not any longer have been allowed to use that as a reason because it was a moot point. And I think about it this way. If you're called for jury duty, and you are going to be, you're being interviewed or voirdired to see if you, you're going to be in a cap, a juror in a capital case, right? If you say, I'm against the death penalty, you can't be on that juror jury because you would be completely incapable of making a decision during the sentencing period. That's how I see this. You don't believe in this, the validity of this trial, even though it's been voted on to be valid, you should not get to participate. And don't get me started on the witnesses, victims, co conspirators thing. So, you know, and also, I'm not entirely sure how you get to be in a jury if you absent yourself either from the room or by coloring in maps of Asia or playing on your phone playing Candy Crush or whatever these assholes were doing. So for Mitch McConnell to use this completely false rationale for his vote and then go up there and give a speech saying that the guy he just let off is guilty was a bridge too far. I hope you're right. I hope that, that Democrats just cut ads off of that. I mean, we need a new word. Craven just isn't gonna get us there anymore. He's a soulless hat. He is perfectly comfortable putting this country, you know, not quite yet realized democracy in danger. And yeah, it was infuriating. It was absolutely infuriating. I'm not entirely sure why the Democrats weren't throwing shit at him.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, and I remember as he was starting, he was just a couple minutes into his speech, I remember tweeting, is he on the impeachment manager team now? Because he's making the exact arguments that the impeachment managers made. He drew conclusions based on the case presented by the amazing impeachment managers, yet voted not guilty on this technicality, which, as you said at the outset had been decided, was a decided question. It would be like if a jury came back and said, you know, no, we find them not guilty because of this particular phrase that the lawyer said. And then the judge goes, yes, but that. We had that stricken from the record. Oh, yeah, but we still used it. You can't. It's. But this, again, is not a criminal court of law. It's a political proceeding. So they can hang out and tell, you know, get together with the Van der Veen beforehand and decide what questions they're going to ask. It was just. It was just ridiculous.
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D
Yeah. And what is the point of having a Pat Leahy or John Roberts there if they're just gonna let it happen? So there is literally no similarity between this and a trial. None. There's no judge, there's no jury. There are no rules, apparently.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
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D
I mean, imagine if you were sitting on a jury and you just left the room. The judge would throw your ass in jail for contempt of court. You know, or, you know, if you weren't paying attention, you would be removed and replaced with an alternate. So, again, I think the weaknesses of the many, many weaknesses in our system have been been revealed over and over and over again. The last four years just has been this idea that Republicans have decided that their best move going forward is to be the party of the ignorant, the immature, and the anti American, or I should say anti Democratic, because they're teaching their followers or voters to believe that being anti Democratic and pro authoritarian is being pro American, which is kind of terrifying. But I think Barb McQuaid was talking about this just how the contempt of saying Democrat instead of Democratic.
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Dana Goldberg
Right.
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D
Mispronouncing our vice president's name over and over and over again, using predominantly people of color and women and women of color and their stupid fucking fascist videos. That's what they've decided works for them. And unfortunately, it seems to.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And, Dana, I want to bring you in on this, too, because I personally think all of these Republican senators should be asked ad nauseam. If Donald were still in office, would you have voted to convict?
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Dana Goldberg
Absolutely.
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Alison Gill
What good is impeachment at all if it's not for this? What is impeachment even for? It seems now it's like an ineffective, archaic thing that just sort of is there for no reason.
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Dana Goldberg
Well, the false equivalence, too, between when Trump's lawyers or Donald's lawyers were talking about how this is the third impeachment in our lifetime and the first one, blah, blah, blah, the False equivalence between Clinton lying about a blowjob to Congress and an insurrection and treason is infuriating. The other thing is the lawyer arguing that Leahy should not preside over this case because he actually is not a fan of Donald Trump, arguing that which swayed the jury, and those guys and women voted that it was unconstitutional. Then use that argument in every single Republican juror that said that they were going to vote to acquit him before the case started. Dismissed. Use the same argument. You're all dismissed. You're not an impartial juror. You told us this before the case. You're dismissed. And then take the two thirds vote on the people that are still left in the room. It's just the whole system's so broken. And I agree with you. This is just, you know, they keep saying this is political theater. That's them projecting. This really is, at this point, just political theater. If this is all this is going to be. They cast the people.
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Alison Gill
They're the ones who put spooky music behind their videos. They were the only ones that did that.
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D
Any judge would have said, what? Stop this right now. Yeah, this is an evidence.
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Dana Goldberg
Absolutely.
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D
You know, this is an MTV music video that's. That's designed to create a certain impression app, you know, in addition or outside of the visuals.
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Dana Goldberg
Right.
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D
You know, so I think this is the point where the media have to start doing their fucking job. They've been a lot better. You know, they have. Have made it clear that the big lie is a big lie, that Biden won legitimately, et cetera, et cetera. But you do not have any of these people on your show unless they're willing to answer two questions. The question Dana just asked you said it's unconstitutional to have a trial for somebody who was impeached while in office if he or she is no longer in office. What would you have done if he'd still been in office? At which point they'd probably say, well, who knows? But that's theoretical.
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Dana Goldberg
Right? That's a hypothetical. It's a hypothetical. Not going to answer. Hypothetical.
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D
But then they can't be on your show. And the second question is, did Donald lose the election?
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Dana Goldberg
100%.
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D
That's it.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And when they asked that in, during the trial, they didn't. He didn't answer. Oh, it's. That's not my judgment.
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Mary Trump
What a. Oh, there.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. You're his lawyer.
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D
And honestly, I think the question was poorly phrased.
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Alison Gill
Yeah.
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D
You know, it should have been a simple. Did Biden win The election, you know, because that's not a question of opinion.
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Dana Goldberg
You know, a lot of those questions were poorly phrased. And what bothered me is that they even entertained. I loved Raskin when someone asked a question about jurisdiction because he got that Listen, Fox tone where he was like, listen, you assholes. I don't want to have to answer this again. This is not about jurisdiction. That has been settled. And started talking to them like they were children, as they deserved. But it was one of those things where there were moments where he's brilliant. I mean, the whole managers. All of the managers. And we shouldn't call them Democratic because they really do represent the entire Senate. They're supposed to. They're supposed to represent the Republicans, too, because they're supposed to care about this shit. But they were phenomenal. Absolutely phenomenal.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. I also enjoyed when I think it was Van der Veen who was like, this is the worst thing. This is my worst trip to Washington ever.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, my God.
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Alison Gill
And, you know, you could see sort of the look that came over Jamie Raskin's face, and he's like, hey, first, I'm just gonna address that real quick. You should have been here.
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Mary Trump
Yeah.
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Alison Gill
On January 6th. And then went on to the next thing. I was like, oh, you know, that's. What a. What a privileged asshole thing to say. Just what a dumb. And he just wasn't good. He was just so terrible. I loved. I think it was Maddox on Friday. She talked about Emily Latella from Saturday Night Live, confusing with violence on television and how he. He said that Trump called Ben Roethlisberger, the former quarterback of the fucking Pittsburgh Steelers, and how he wants to bring everybody to his office in Philly Delphia, you know, absolutely, totally unprepared and ridiculous. And I mean, you know, I know he's a personal injury lawyer, but, I mean, he's really. I feel bad for other personal injury lawyers this week.
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D
This is exactly the kind of representation Donald deserves. Of course, the rest of us, on the other hand, it was brutal. It was so brutal having to watch the.
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Alison Gill
Oh, my God, they were so outmatched.
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Dana Goldberg
Okay, who. It's not Vander. It's not Caster. It's not Vander. Whatever. It's the third guy. What was his name? So Shona is beginning his whole thing up there going, what about an honor? I feel like I could cry standing on the Senate floor. What an honor it is to be here. I feel like I'm getting emotional. I can cry. And then he proceeded to lie to the Senate. He respected For, I don't know, three days, just over and over, lie to them and then, bless his heart, I don't. I don't know what he was reading. I don't know what the poem was. But when he started crying, I text Mary, I said, you gotta be fucking kidding me right now. What is happening?
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D
I'm like, is he pretending to cry right when he's reading his, like, what the hell is going on?
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Mary Trump
Yeah, it was.
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Alison Gill
It was Longfellow, which is by, like one of the worst fucking like. You know what? Why don't you just do Robert Frost's Two Roads Diverged in the woods and we could call it a commencement ceremony.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, my God. And I'm not, I'm not shaming men. I want you to cry more. You'd be having less heart attacks, trust me. But that, that was absolutely ridiculous.
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D
But be sincere, for God's sakes. It was nothing.
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Mary Trump
Sincere.
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Alison Gill
Well, I am now, you know, kind of putting a lid on this. Looking to move forward. We need to get Merrick Garland confirmed. Last week, Biden asked all of Trump's US Attorneys to resign, except for two. The one that's investigating Hunter Biden and Durham, the one who's investigating the investigation of the investigation. But, you know, good move.
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D
That's an interesting decision. No, I get it, but it's still interesting. I mean, I get the Hunter Biden one more than I get the Durham one, quite honestly.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. Yeah, well, Durham shouldn't have even been appointed. You can't appoint a special counsel. That's. Anyway, that already works for the government. But those are the rules of the special counsel that I didn't make up. Neil Kutyal wrote them, so, you know.
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D
Damn you, Neil Katyal.
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Alison Gill
He didn't want to overstep any boundaries. But we're going to get new U.S. attorneys. We're going to have a new attorney general. We need to start investigating the insurrection criminally, and we need to start investigating it with a 911 type commission or a special counsel or congressional investigations or all three, however you want to do it. But more is going to come out. We will have witnesses. We will, I'm sure, hear from Butler, Herrera, Butler. We will subpoena McCarthy and, you know, Mark Short and Pence, probably. If they refuse, of course we have to take them to court. But, you know, and we might not get through that. They'll be able to run the clock out on that, but, you know, and then we got to hold and increase our footprint in the Senate and the house in 2022. That's our forward looking stuff that we got to work on and of course all the other Biden agenda. By the way, if I hear that one more time, I'm going to. But it's all very important stuff that needs to keep happening. I wish the Senate didn't adjourn this week. I wish they were in D.C. working. But here we are.
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D
I don't get it. They had momentum. We are in the middle. Like this even needs to be said anymore, for God's sakes. And I think that's part of why our reaction was so extreme because how much more can we take seriously. Seriously and to have our hopes dashed. We're not really understanding what was going on. But it just seemed like. I have a couple questions. First of all, how much more evidence do the Democrats need that they gotta. They have to get rid of the filibuster? It's not in the Constitution. It's historically been a device to keep black people down. And I know that the rationale is a tyranny of the majority. Well, the 50 senators who are Democratic represent 43 million more people than the senators who are Republicans. So let's just get rid of that old trope.
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Alison Gill
That's what we need to do first. Cuz I agree with you. We need to get rid of the filibuster. But I think we should get DC Statehood. Puerto Rico should vote on statehood first. We should solve our voter suppression and voter oppression problem by passing the John Lewis Voter Rights Act. And we can actually do that without eliminating the filibuster. We can actually. And Senator Schumer said that this is something he can do. He can rewrite the budget reconciliation rules to allow non budgetary legislation to be passed with a simple majority. It's a complete end run around the filibuster. But my main concern right now is we're 5050 and if you know, when Leahy went into the hospital, we are a hair away from losing our majority. And if we end the filibuster before we secure the votes that we need in the Senate, I'm afraid that the Republicans will just run roughshod over everything without it.
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D
They will. Of course it will. And I forget because Vermont is Vermont. Like how could Vermont have a Republican senator? But I feel the same way and forgive me for saying this, but I am still so angry at Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I'm sorry. She had an opportunity. We shouldn't be in this position where the majority of the Supreme Court represents the the tiniest percentage of people in this country. You know And Leahy, I don't know. It's same thing with fines. I mean, for God's sakes, guys, don't you. Like, I don't want to work until the day I drop dead. Like, I have other stuff I want to do.
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Dana Goldberg
Come on, seriously.
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D
And especially knowing that Ruben would, of course, or almost certainly elect another Democratic senator. Why risk it? You know, and there is. Because there is so much we could accomplish. We should be doubling the size of the federal judiciary. We should absolutely be adding. I think we should. I think the supreme court should have 15 seats. No, I'm not kidding.
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Alison Gill
No, no. What's funny is I did the math. I did some back of the envelope math. If we adjusted the Supreme Court like we did inflation or the cost of living by the number of Supreme Court justices versus the population in 1798, population of the states was 4 million and we had six Supreme Court justices, the equivalent today would be 495 Supreme Court justices. I just wanted to throw that out there.
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D
I saw your tweet. It was like. Yes, exactly, exactly. So we could add another six, for God's sakes. Because just think of what we could do. And the best way, it's not the only way. And I'm not saying it's going to fix all of our problems, but the best way to start healing the dividend and changing people's minds about how government works is to make the government work for them and remind them that the government is us. It's not them. It's not some hostile foreign power out to get us. It's us. And if we have a Senate that acts like it is, has the majority, which it does, I don't give a shit if it's one vote or 40 votes, then we can get so much done that's going to help the American people And then that 22% that should be ever forever contained can go crawl back under their rocks again.
- [48:21]
Dana Goldberg
No kidding.
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Mary Trump
Well said.
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Alison Gill
And they've been there, right? We've just not had the Internet.
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D
Well, no. And you know, the thing is that people forget for two years, 100% of the federal government represented those people.
- [48:38]
Alison Gill
Right.
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D
And the disease metastasized and here we are.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, it was validating and justified for them to be their disgusting selves. Well, I really appreciate your time today, Mary. We do have to run, but I just, I wanted to thank you so much, everybody. Follow Mary Trump on Twitter. It's one of the best follows. It's one of the best things you'll do today and I appreciate Your time. I really do.
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D
I love being here.
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Dana Goldberg
It's good to see you, my friend.
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D
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.
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Alison Gill
No problem. All right everybody. Welcome back. It's time for the good news everyone then. Good news everyone. We need some good news today. So I'm very thankful to all the listeners who have written in with their confessions and corrections and good news and pod pet tax photos and all of that. I'm really excited to get to this. Dana. I need a. I need a good news injection.
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Mary Trump
Me too. And I did what I don't normally do. I didn't read ahead. So all these pictures will be new to me. But if I flub any of these stories it's because I have not read them yet. So. But I'm looking forward to this same.
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Alison Gill
I did the same thing because you know we talked about that. We're like we should just not read it at all. So we're totally genuinely surprised when we get these. First up from Sarah Pronoun. She and her hello politics goddesses. This year we thought girl Scout cookie sales were going to be low due to Covid. Oh Sara. And as such so we kept our initial inventory low. Well, apparently we were wrong. Sales have been through the roof this year. Our state opened up an option for contactless drop off and ordering through a girl Scout a girl set up cookie site. That's so cool. I believe that it helped because people need sugar this year and girl scouts can provide. My daughter surpassed her goal in the first week. We still have 23 days left to sell and I'm excited to see how well she can do as tax. I'm including a picture of my junior scout and my dogs, Jackson and Tucker. Jax is black, Tucker is brown. Thanks for all you ladies provide. Oh, there she is.
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Mary Trump
Oh my goodness.
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Alison Gill
I remember being a junior scout. Do they still have to cross the rainbow? I know and this is gonna sound weird but you get your rainbow bridge patch for crossing over into senior girl scouts.
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Mary Trump
Great. Isn't that what they say when animals pass away?
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Alison Gill
Yes. And it just dawned on me. So I wonder if they've changed that.
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Mary Trump
I would hope so. And also I going to spread a good rumor. It's a rumor but I feel like it's valid. One of the reasons that I love the girl Scouts cookies so much and will continue to support them is they support trans girls and they will not take money from anti trans organizations.
- [51:18]
Alison Gill
Yeah.
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Mary Trump
So tell me if I'm wrong with that but I've read it in two different places and so I'm just going to choose to believe it's true.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, and there is a troop, troop 6000, which is a troop comprised of homeless girl Scouts and so you can buy cookies through them to support them as well.
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Mary Trump
Oh my goodness, they're such good things. Hey, that was like a triple good news story. Thank you for that. This next one's from Anonymous. Pronouns she and they. Hey, ag, dg, Amy and all. I finally have some good news. I paid off my credit card debt. I ended up in a financial abusive situation that my partner ran up tens of thousands of dollars in credit card debt all in my name, and I was stuck with it. It's taken me many years, but I finally paid them off the other day. It's such a relief to be out from under that burden. And as soon as things are safe again from this awful pandemic, I'm going to go out living my life to the fullest. Big smiley face. It's been a struggle to find good things throughout the past few years with the Trump presidency and the rise of fascism here, the pandemic, all horrible things. The situation I was in and finding out I have been struggling with several disabilities that I wasn't even aware of. But things are starting to look a lot brighter these days. Thanks for the pod. The insights you all give to the constant shit show are so good. And I hate the wait. I hate the wait. Seeing what happens during the day and hearing what you all have to say about it. And thank you so much for being such a welcoming place for queer folks. I'm trans myself and it's such a relief to see that you all are accepting. Not only accepting, celebrating. Anonymous. I celebrate you. I don't just accept you. I celebrate you. I love that you're here. Thank you.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, well, beyond acceptance. Love ya. Thank you. Thank you so much for that submission. Next up, we have Adam. Pronouns he and him. Hi, Ag and Dana. Good news and a suggestion. I love your shows and feel that your intelligent and persistent unraveling of the Trump lies made the various Russia scandals understandable and helped those of us who are reading the actual news feel like we had community good news. On a car trip, my teen daughter asked me to tell her a story of the Mueller report. My kids do this every now and then when they want a full history download on something.
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Mary Trump
That's so cute, Mommy. Tell us that story about the Mueller report.
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Alison Gill
She listened riveted as I took her through a 90 minute explanation of Trump's illegal and shady involvement with Russia dating back to the 80s and through the Mueller investigation. I was able to do this because of your shows suggest. I hope that you all, you and all news reporters can stop referring to the House impeachment managers as the Democrats. What?
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Dana Goldberg
I just talked about this in the.
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Mary Trump
Interview you did, Adam and Adam and I believe Keep going. Sorry, I know I'm not supposed to interrupt these stories.
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Alison Gill
No, this is, this is so good because this is so prescient, Adam, because I. We recorded the Mary Trump interview before we read this. I just want to put that out there. I hope you and all news reporters stop referring to the House impeachment managers as the Democrats. I know everyone on the team is a Democrat, but they represent the majority of the House. They represent a bipartisan vote to impeach and they are essentially representing the United States, the People's House in my estimation. When we refer to them as the Democrats, we're playing to the Trump publicans hand by making this seem partisan.
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Mary Trump
Well said.
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Alison Gill
Yep, very well said. Keep on keeping on. The show is wonderful. My family has started listening and we've we sing the transition songs to each other including AG's deadpan hot notes. And after these messages we'll be right back. Back. I include as pet tax a picture of me napping with our two year old lab pit mix named Moose. That's such a good name and he's such a cuddler.
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Mary Trump
Oh my God. Moose, you and Adam are adorable. Notice how I was talking to Moose instead of saying adam, you and Moose are adorable. Moose, if you're hearing this, you and your owner, you and your person are cute.
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Alison Gill
Love it.
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Mary Trump
I love guys with good facial hair. Makes me super happy. I don't know what it is. I feel like if I for some reason presented as a man man, I would try and have a nice facial hair if it ran in my family. If the genes were there. All right. Anonymous pronoun she and her I guess this is a confession. A grammar confession. After hearing the recent discussion on the me versus I debate, I utterly and completely understand AG's position. I was raised by a mother who instilled in me it's always, always, always a G and I. If we said me, we would get in charge trouble. I don't recall if my public school held the same grammatical beliefs as my mother, but I developed an almost visceral reaction to hearing someone say AG and me. Fast forward to today where I'm an educated, accomplished adult who will do mental gymnastics. Mental grammatical gymnastics to avoid using the and me because I cringe every time I hear it even when I know it's grammatically correct. I agree there are times when it sounds very wrong. As long as we are on the subject of grammar. Grammar, I'm still a person who Based on my degree in psychology, I have been trained to write in apa, which dictates two spaces after a period. Apparently that is the latest taboo. Add to my list of faux pas so strengths.
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Alison Gill
Your list of strengths.
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Mary Trump
So rest assured, you are not the only one who has been traumatized by the me versus I debate. Can I also add that I love the show and have been around since the Kitchen Table days? And as a nurse, not many things get done on a quote normal schedule. Sometimes I have two to three episodes of the Beans to listen to in one day and it gets confusing at times when someone says tomorrow or on Thursday. It can be confusing when listening to episodes days late. It's possible Is it possible to say things like Monday the 15th. Ah, thank you for all you do.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, I can work on that.
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Mary Trump
Yeah, I can too. Happy to.
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Alison Gill
Thank you very much for that. Anonymous up from Irish Granny Submitted with great affection. Hi friends. I had a good laugh at the listener who wrote in to correct your misuse of pronouns. I don't know what brand of none taught AG, but I served 17 years hard time in Catholic schools. I promise you, had you been subjected to Sister Ignatius Ann, you'd never make another grammar error in your life. I toiled for hours throughout fifth and sixth grades. Yes, I had her both years I was in purgatory, diagramming sentences and doing fill in the blank grammar exercises. Sister Ignatius Ann drummed it into us quite literally for many of the boys, the girl she merely verbally humiliated. Every time I hear between she and I, I die a little inside. Ag, you're in stellar company. There is not a news anchor, journalist, blogger, or podcaster who doesn't often get it wrong. I have trained myself to take deep breaths and say nothing because I don't want to be quote that bitch. My fear is that the Catholic Church was right and when I die, I'll be serving a good long time in limbo. Unbaptized babies with unbaptized babies. In the meantime, keep up the fabulous work and rack up those venial sins with swearing and all. Yes, Irish Granny, you're going to be stuck in purgatory having to listen to Roger Stone say between she and I over and over again. No, you're going. You're going up. You're going up, Irish Granny.
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Mary Trump
Hysterical. Thank you so much for that Submission. I love. I. I struggle with it too. There are times where I will literally stop in the middle of a sentence and like, say it in my head and sometimes out loud to make sure I have it right and I'll correct myself. This next one's from Denise. Pronouns she and her I'm a day behind, so I'm sure someone has to let you. Has already let you know. Yes, cows can have horns. Best cat toys. Best cat toys. Pecans still in their shells. Oh, that's the best cat toy. Are pecans that are still in shells. We leave on a. We live on a pecan farm. Oh, and wine corks are also good cat toys. Well, that can be. That can happen. My. My pet tax. I just need it now. I need a cat. I have plenty. I have plenty of wine.
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Alison Gill
I have no shortage of. Of what? Wine corks and cats. No shortage of that. In fact, there was a. Like an old song, I think sometime that came out around 2014 or something called Slapbacks and Tattoos. And I had sort of a little song that I would sing when every time I took the trash out, it was wine bottles and cat poo because that the bulk of what was going out to the trash.
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Mary Trump
Hilarious. So someone dropped them off in the barn. Incredibly young and sick. Oh, this is the pet tax. My pet tax is my two kittens. Even though they're two years old. Someone dropped them off in the barn. Incredibly young and sick. The good news? They're healthy now. They've had too many names to list. Parentheses, but B u t T and but seem to be the latest. Also, here is my happy place in spring, summer and fall where I wait all winter for flowers. I look forward to the daily beans every day and I'm sorely missing you on the weekends. Cats are beautiful. Oh, and the flowers are so pretty.
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Alison Gill
Oh, that's beautiful. Those cosmos. They look like cosmos and petunias. I could be totally wrong. Let me know. Correct me if I'm wrong. Next up from Heather Pronoun. She and her hiya friends count me in as one of the crew who found you at the beginning of the pandemic and fast became a daily listener. Thanks so much providing for providing on a regular basis that there's still good insane humans out there. This one is for the ongoing saga on hot dog condiments. I used to be a mayo on hot dog sort, being mostly from Florida.
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Mary Trump
I didn't mean to yuck your yum, Heather. I'm so sorry. That just came out.
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Alison Gill
This is a. This is an old Amy's court case. They wanted to know if mayonnaise on hot dogs was okay. I said no. Amy said yes. Being mostly from Florida, cue vague shame feels. Until I moved to the Seattle area to begin what I consider my real life capital R, capital L. I'm told it's Seattle style, but I can't cite my sources. So take it with a grain of mayo to put cream cheese on your dog.
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Dana Goldberg
Yes.
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Alison Gill
And it is the best thing ever. It is really good.
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Mary Trump
That one doesn't upset me. That one doesn't upset me.
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Alison Gill
It's really good. My preference is to add sriracha too, but you can add any other condiment you like. For true culinary delay pod pet tax included the many moods of Ernie the Cat, AKA that cat, and Zero, the Iggy Russell Italian Greyhound and Jack Russell Terrier. Oh, Zero loves to climb trees, so she's also known as the Pacific Northwest Forest Terrier. Bonus pet is my step dog. That's my partner's dog, Eris, wondering why the hell Zero was up in a tree and do I want to try that too? Parentheses she did. Dogs that climb trees are the best.
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Mary Trump
Oh good.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. Look at the dog in the tree.
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Mary Trump
All of these pictures are fantastic. I love the cat. Just trying a little yoga stretch.
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Alison Gill
Oh yeah, sitting like a person. So cute. Look at the dog with the scarf at the end. Oh my gosh.
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Mary Trump
Thank you for these. Thank you. What a wonderful ending to a fantastic good news segment.
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Alison Gill
Ah, yes. And if you have any, please send them to us. We will need them. We will continue to need them. This community is so amazing and so supportive and so wonderful. And you can send in your confessions and corrections and photos of your happy places and your pod pets and your kids and your grandkids all to us@dailybeanspod.com and click on contact. That's how you get a hold of us again. Don't forget to join Dana and me on Thursday at 5 Pacific. Just download the Stereo app. It's free and you can set up an account by going to stereo.comalisongill and search for myself myself and for DG comedy and just follow us and we'll see you Thursday at 5 Pacific. It's so much fun. I love those.
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Mary Trump
Please do. Yes, please do.
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Alison Gill
I'm really starting to love those. And you know, if you have an idea, by the way, for a theme or something we should do. Like the last time a couple times ago we had people sing the questions to us in the in the to the tune of Girl from Ipanema. And then what did we do last week, Dana?
- [62:45]
Mary Trump
Oh, we asked them what was your favorite adult beverage? No adult beverages. But also, like, crazy stories when we were a kid, because you talked about, like, dangerous stuff your parents used to do, and I was like, we drank out of a hose for the first 10 years of our lives, like, everything was fine. And we're all alive still to tell the story, so.
- [62:59]
Alison Gill
So if you can think of something fun for everybody to stick at the end of their question, just send it into us the Again, DailyBeansPod.com and go to contact and let us know.
- [63:09]
Mary Trump
Thanks.
- [63:10]
Alison Gill
Yeah. Any last words? Any last words? Any last words? No.
- [63:14]
D
That's it.
- [63:14]
Mary Trump
It's been real. Y'all take care, care. Loved working with you ag. And if.
- [63:18]
Dana Goldberg
If you want to follow me so.
- [63:19]
Mary Trump
You know what I'm doing next, I would love that. It's DG comedy on all the social medias, including Instagram.
- [63:26]
Alison Gill
What did I say? Last words. Oh, my God.
- [63:28]
Mary Trump
Do any last words?
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Alison Gill
Nope. Even with blindfold on and a cigarette in your mouth? Okay, what's your final meal? Anyway? Everyone, until tomorrow, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of your mental health, and take care of the planet. I've been AG and I was dg. Them's the beans.
- [63:52]
D
Refried beans.
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Alison Gill
I like refried beans. Any last words, Dana Goldberg?