
Friday, June 28th, 2024 Still no ruling on immunity from the Supreme Court, and the decisions are now rolling over into next week; Felix Sater lost his money laundering trial to the tune of $32M; Roger Sollenberger from Daily Beast got a records request showing Jim Comer wrote over 2,000 emails using an alias; the former school police chief of Uvalde has been indicted for his role in the botched response to the Robb Elementary shooting; the Oklahoma state superintendent orders schools to teach the Bible in grades 5 through 12; CNN has banned White House press pool reporters from the debate; plus Allison delivers your Good News. John Fugelsang
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Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Friday, June 28, 2024. Today, still no ruling on immunity from the Supreme Court, and the decisions are now rolling over into next week. Felix Sater, remember that guy? He lost a money laundering trial to the tune of $32 million. Roger Sullenberger from the Daily Beast got a records request showing Jim comer wrote over 2,000 emails using an alias. The former school police chief of Uvalde has been indicted for his role in the botched response to the Robb elementary shooting. The Oklahoma State superintendent has ordered schools to teach the bible in grades five through 12. And CNN has banned the White House press pool reporters from the debate. I'm your host, Allison Gill. Hey, everybody. That was weird. I am your host, Allison Gill. That was kind of. I don't know. That was weird. But I'm going to leave it. How are you? Happy Friday. It is Friday, which means it's fugal sang Friday around here. So John Fugelsang will be joining me later in the show. Also, Dana returns Monday. I could not be more happy about that. Or happier. Yeah, happier works either way. I'm exceedingly pleased because I miss her and I know you do, too. But thanks for hanging in with me solo this week. We had a lot of news we had to get to, so I'm glad I could bring it to you. It is debate night in America. I will be watching. I might tweet about it as I watch. I'm not going to commit to that, but I know that you'll be watching. I'll be watching along with you. Just know we are watching together as it happens. And I don't know if I'm going to play any drinking games. I don't know if my liver can handle that. There's just too many easy ones that that could put people in a coma. But I will definitely be watching right along with you. So we'll talk about that probably on the bonus cleanup episode this weekend, which we have decided not to record until after the Supreme Court Rulings come out this morning, Friday and after the debate. So we'll talk about that. We'll see how it goes. And I'm going to talk about it a little bit with John Fugal saying later in the show. Today, the Supreme Court released four decisions, a decision in Ohio v. EPA for a 54 majority, with Barrett joining the liberal justices in dissent. Gorsuch blocks the Biden administration's good neighbor rule, the EPA's rule. So I'm going to talk about that in the hot notes. And we got the Purdue Pharma bankruptcy case ruling, a 54 majority with Roberts, Sotomayor, Kagan and Kavanaugh dissenting. Gorsuch rights to throw out the Purdue Pharma bankruptcy plan so they do not get to file for bankruptcy. Also, we got the ruling in SEC v. Jarkassy. I think that's how you say that, Jarkesy. Maybe this is the 63 ideological split. The chief justice holds that when the SEC seeks civil penalties, fines against a defendant for securities fraud, they get a jury trial under the seventh Amendment. So no more fines from the sec. They have to do a jury trial. Great, great use of taxpayer money. And we got the actual EMTALA ruling. The Idaho abortion ban ruling. Kicking the can down the road past the election is all this does in a case that's pitting the Idaho abortion ban against a federal law, emtala, that dictates emergency rooms actually have to treat patients. And sometimes that includes abortion. Now, at the end of the session, the chief judge did not say that Friday is the final day of decisions today, which means they are spilling into next week, the first week of July for the first time since COVID And they have set decision days next week for Monday and Friday. So guess where my money is on when we'll get an immunity decision. You guessed it. Friday, of course. No immunity decision today. No Fisher decision today. Uh, we'll see what gets released in the morning. But again, my money is still on stuff going to the very last day for immunity. Maybe not Fisher. Maybe we'll get Fisher today. Now, Steve Vladek predicts that possibly Ketanji Brown Jackson may be writing in Fisher, which would be good because it would leave the law in place. But we'll see. We'll see what ends up happening. You should definitely follow his one first newsletter on Substack. That's Steve Vladeck. He's really, really good at breaking all this stuff down. And I'll chat about the Supreme Court decisions with Fugal, sang Mr. Fugal saying later in the show. But first, we have a lot of news to get to. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. First up, Pete Arredondo, the former school police chief in Uvalde, Texas, has been indicted on charges of child endangerment for his part in the botched response to the deadly shooting at Robb Elementary School two years ago. That's according to sources who spoke with the San Antonio Express News on Thursday. Another former school police officer, Adrian Gonzalez, was also reportedly indicted on the same charges handed down by a Uvalde county grand jury. This marks the first criminal charges brought over the May 24, 2022, massacre in which 19 students and two teachers were murdered in the weeks and months after the shooting, the deadliest in the state's history. Arredondo received much of the blame for the delay in confronting the gunmen, though officers from multiple agencies were on school grounds within minutes of the first shots fired, they waited more than an hour before breaching the classroom in which the shooter was known to be barricaded. Surveillance footage shows the officers dawdling in the hallway outside for more than an hour. Described by Texas state officials as the incident commander on the scene, Arredondo had stoutly defended himself, saying he did know he had been in charge. And after he was fired by the Uvalde School board In August of 2022, his attorney described the vote as an illegal and unconstitutional public lynching. The Express News was unable to reach Arredondo for comment. Gonzalez hung up when called by the reporter. This is a breaking story. This is all we have right now. We'll continue to keep you posted. Now from Bloomberg. Felix Sater, you remember this motherfucker? Remember the guy who stabbed a guy in the eye with a broken stem of a margarita glass? Trump pal Felix Sater, real estate guy, Moscow born dealmaker who was once part of Trump's inner circle. He lost in a civil trial today in which he was accused of helping a wealthy Kazakhstani launder millions of dollars through US Real estate, including condos at Trump Tower, the Soho Tower, by the way. A federal jury in Manhattan issued the verdict Wednesday in favor of the city of Almaty, Kazakhstan and one of the country's biggest lenders, BTA bank, awarding more than $32 million in damages, including interest. And that's according to the lawyer for the plaintiffs, Matthew L. Schwartz of Bowie Schiller Flexner llp. The loss in court is a setback for Sater, a controversial real estate operative who once had offices at Trump Tower. Quote, I reject the verdict and I will be appealing, sater said in A telephone interview wielding a broken margarita G.L. no, he didn't. Not this time. The verdict has yet to be posted on the court docket, though, quote, we are privileged to have been able to present this evidence to a U.S. jury and are thrilled with the verdict in favor of our clients, including the jury's imposition of punitive damages for the deliberate and particularly morally culpable conduct of one Felix Sater. That's Schwartz, that's Boyce Schiller's chairman elect and managing partner. Almady and BTA claim that Sater helped Ilyas Karpunov launder a portion of roughly $6 billion allegedly looted from BTA by his father in law, former BTA Chairman Mukhtar Oblazov. That was in the years before the financial crisis. The case is part of a global effort by BTA to recover the money which was allegedly siphoned from the bank through a web of shell companies and bogus loans. Almedy alleges that some of the laundered money was stolen from the city by Karpunyav's father when he was the mayor through corrupt sales of municipal land. Felix Sater, who as late as 2011 was handing out business cards identifying himself as senior advisor to Donald Trump, denies the allegations. But he testified that he lied when he helped Karpunev conceal his role in lucrative deals to dodge a worldwide freezing order that tied up his family's assets. Seder allegedly made millions in the process. Quote, I wasn't legally obliged to tell the seller or the buyer of anything to tell anyone of dirty laundry of a deal I was working on. That's what he said on June 18 during a three week trial. Quote, they had due diligence. They had a due diligence department. If they found it, they found it. If they didn't find it, they didn't find it. Holy. The investments at the center of the case included several units at Trump SoHo, an Ohio mall and a private equity deal. Trump, 78, is not a defendant, isn't accused of wrongdoing in the case. But the trial put fresh attention on Trump's dealings as he campaigns to return to the White House, including his ties with Russia before the 2016 election. Sater, who advised Trump on real estate investments and at one point led his failed effort to build a Moscow Trump Tower, was one of many witnesses interviewed in Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Trump's 2016 campaign. So a little bit more justice coming from the Mueller investigation. We had, we had the the Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg case that came from Mueller. And now we've got Sater found that he has to pay $32 million. Sater met Karpunev in Trump Tower to discuss laundering the allegedly stolen money and personally arranged meetings between the wealthy Kazakhstan and Trump to discuss possible investments. BTA and Almady said in the complaint that that's what they said. But the bank and the city went to great lengths in court documents to distance Trump from the allegations. Quote, there's no suggestion that either Ilyas or sater disclosed to Mr. Trump the illicit origin of the stolen funds or that Trump engaged in any impropriety whatsoever in connection with Ilyas Karpunya. That's according to the lawsuit. Sater, who worked at Bear Stearns and other Wall street firms in the 80s, served time in prison. Oh, they're bringing it up. For stabbing a rival commodities broker in the face with a broken margarita glass in a bar fight in Midtown Manhattan in 1991, which led to lasting nerve damage for the victim. He later pled guilty to racketeering for taking part in stock swindles that defrauded investors of more than $40 million. To stay out of prison, Sater worked as an informant to US Prosecutors and investigating the mob's role on Wall street. Bta the bank says Sater turned to real estate after he was banned from selling securities in 1999. Wednesday's verdict is the latest legal twist for one of the more colorful people in Trump's orbit. BuzzFeed News in 2018 reported Sader spent more than two decades as an intelligence asset for the US government. Karpunov has denied all wrongdoing and he previously said that when he managed his own family's investments legally, he did that without breaking any laws. And he denied that his Swiss company was a front for his father in law and he also denied that he had laundered any ill gotten gains. Ablaziov also consistently denied wrongdoing. H. Okay, cool. Thanks. Felix Sater. Next up from Ellie Quinlan Hulang at the New Republic, and I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly, House Oversight Committee Chairman Jim Comer may have attacked President Joe Biden for utilizing email aliases, but he's no stranger to the practice himself. Earlier this month, as you know, we reported this from Roger Sullenberger at Daily Beast here on the Daily Beans. Earlier this month, it was reported Comer had used two pseudonyms in his email addresses instead of his government one while serving as Kentucky Agriculture Commissioner, both of which were uncovered during a records request in DER's 2014 marijuana mishap. But the new FOIL request that's FOIL request filed by the Daily Beast Roger Sullenberger has uncovered an eyebrow raising trove of other aliases used by a Kentucky representative about 1600-2700 more quote in a previous communication, you were advised that more than 1591 parent emails containing 199 attachments have been identified as possibly related to your request. That's what the FOI officer emailed to Sullenberger. Quote During a subsequent search, we found an additional 2,716 emails and attachments possibly related to your request. Holy shit. One finding in the document load suggests that Comer has used one such alias to handle classified information. Some parts of the request were denied, including one exemption that was particularly notable. It says, quote, one email from a loan officer to former Commissioner Comer discussing a personal financial matter that was unrelated to government business was redacted. Huh. Wonder if that had anything to do with those land swaps that he did with his brother. All right, let's talk about the supreme court blocking the EPA's good neighbor rule. This is important. This is from Matthew Daly at the Associated Press. The Environmental Protection Agency EPA will not be able to enforce a key rule limiting air pollution in nearly a dozen states while separate legal challenges proceed around the country under a Supreme Court decision Thursday. The EPA's good neighbor rule is intended to restrict smokestack emissions from power plants and other industrial sources that burden downwind areas with smog causing pollution. Three energy producing states, Ohio, Indiana and West Virginia challenged the rule, along with the steel industry and other groups calling it costly and ineffective. The Supreme Court put the rule on hold while those legal challenges continue. The conservative led court's latest blow to federal regulators the high court, with a 6:3 conservative majority, has increasingly reined in the powers of federal agencies, including the EPA. In recent years, the justices have restricted the EPA's authority to fight air pollution and water pollution, including a landmark 2022 ruling that limited the EPA's authority to regulate carbon dioxide emissions from power plants that contribute to global warming. The court is also weighing whether to overturn its 40 year old Chevron decision, which has been the basis for upholding a wide range of regulations on public health, workplace safety and consumer protections. The EPA adopted the Good Neighbor Rule as a way to protect downwind states that receive unwanted air pollution from other states. Besides the potential health impacts for out of state pollution, many states face their own federal deadlines to ensure clean air. States like Wisconsin, New York and Connecticut said they struggle to meet federal standards and reduce harmful levels of ozone because pollution from out of state power plants, cement kilns and natural gas pipelines drift across their borders. Ground level ozone, commonly known as smog, forms when industrial pollutants emitted by cars, power plants, refineries and other sources chemically react with the presence of sunlight. High ozone levels can cause respiratory problems, including asthma and chronic bronchitis. People with compromised immune systems, the elderly and children playing outdoors are particularly vulnerable. Judith Vail, New York's deputy solicitor general, told the court that for some states, as much as 65% of smog pollution comes from outside its borders. States that contribute to ground level ozone must submit plans ensuring that coal fired power plants and other industrial sites do not add significantly to air pollution in other states. In cases where a state has not submitted a Good Neighbor plan where or where EPA disapproves a state plan, a federal plan is supposed to ensure downwind states are protected. The Supreme Court's decision blocks EPA enforcement of the rule and sends the case Back to the U.S. court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, which is considering a lawsuit challenging the regulation that was brought by 11 mostly Republican leaning states. An EPA spokesman said the agency believes the plan is firmly rooted in its authority under the Clean Air act and it looks forward to defending the merits of this vital public health protection before the appeals court. With the stay in place, the mining industry looks forward to making a case in court that the EPA rule is unlawful in its excessive overreach and must be struck down to protect American workers, energy independence, the electric grid and the consumers it serves. Uh huh, right. By the way, it's of note here. Sean Donahue pointed this out on Twitter. Justice Gorsuch's opinion refers five times to nitrous oxide, which is laughing gas, rather than the entirely different chemical compound nitrogen oxides, which is smog causing chemicals actually at issue in this case. These are the people who want to take experts out of the equation and gut our agencies, our regulatory agencies. They want to be the experts. They want to be the experts on bump stocks. I talk about this with John Fugelsang a little bit, but this has long been Leonard Leo's holy grail, throwing out the Chevron doctrine, gutting our federal agency's ability to protect us through regulations. Next up from Reuters. The White House Correspondents association said on Thursday that CNN rejected multiple requests to include White House pool reporters inside the studio during the debate. Tonight, the press pool, made up of representatives of major news organizations, including Reuters, accompanies the President on foreign and domestic trips and normally has access to any event where he speaks or appears in public, with the goal of keeping the US Publicly informed. It's extremely rare for them to be barred from an event in the United States, quote WHCA is deeply concerned that CNN has rejected our repeated request to include the White House travel pool inside the studio. That's Kelly o' Donnell, president of the White House Correspondents association, in a statement. Quote, the pool is there for the what ifs in a world where the unexpected does happen, she said, and to provide context and insight by direct observation and not through the lens of the television production. O' Donnell said both the Biden and Trump campaigns agreed to the White House Correspondents Association's request. CNN has only agreed to allow one White House print pool reporter to enter the studio during commercial breaks to briefly observe the setting. The network will also allow still photographers from other outlets to cover the candidates inside the studio and will provide a television feed for the debate to other networks. So this is a little ongoing fight ahead of the debate that's going to start in about two hours from now as I record this. And next up from Sean Murphy at the Associated Press, Oklahoma's top educational official ordered public schools, ordered them on Thursday to incorporate the Bible into lessons from grade five through 12. This is the latest effort by conservatives to incorporate religion into public classrooms. The directive drew immediate condemnation from civil rights groups and supporters of the separation of church and state, which you could say are supporters of the Constitution or supporters of the First Amendment, with some calling it an abuse of power and a violation of the Constitution. Yeah, it is. The order sent to districts across the state by Republican state Superintendent Ryan Walters says adherence to the mandate is compulsory and immediate and strict compliance is expected. Quote, the Bible is an indispensable historical and cultural touchstone, he said. Without basic knowledge of it, Oklahoma students are unable to properly contextualize the foundation of our nation, which is why Oklahoma Educational Standards provide for its instruction. No Oklahoma law already explicitly allows Bibles in the classroom and lets teachers use them in instruction. That's what Phil Bacharach said. A spokesman for the attorney general, Gentner Drummond, that's the state attorney general. But it's not clear if Walters has the authority to mandate that schools teach the Bible. State law says individual school districts have the exclusive authority to decide on instruction, curriculum, reading lists and instructional materials and textbooks. The head of the Oklahoma chapter of the Council of American Islamic Relations criticized the directive as a clear violation of the Constitution's establishment clause, which prohibits the government from establishing a religion. It's so clear, quote, we adamantly oppose any requirement that religion be forcefully taught or required as part of lesson plans in public schools in Oklahoma or anywhere else in the country. That's Adam Sultani in a statement. Public schools are not Sunday schools, said Rachel Lazer, president and CEO of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. She said that in a statement. This is textbook Christian nationalism. Walters is abusing the powers of his public office to impose his religious beliefs on everyone else's children. Not on our watch. A former public school teacher who was elected to his post in 2022, Walters ran on a platform of fighting woke ideology, banning books from schools and school libraries, getting rid of radical, radical leftists who he claims are indoctrinating children in classrooms. He has clashed with leaders in both parties for his focus on culture war issues, including transgender rights and banning books. And in January, he faced criticism for appointing a right wing social media influencer from New York to a state library committee. That was the libs of tick tock lady. That was this guy. Now he's pushing Bibles in the classroom. The unbelievable. The, I should say it's, it's believable, but I mean the boldness. All right, everybody, I need to talk to John Fugelsang about this and some other stories, but I have to take a quick break, so everybody stick around. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back. Hey everybody, welcome back. It's Friday on the Daily Beans, which means it's Fugal saying Friday on the Daily Beans, which means I'm joined by my good friend, host of Tell Me Everything to show on SiriusXM progress channel 127. You can hear weeknights at 9pm Eastern, 6 Pacific. And then of course the John Fugal Sang show podcast and he's on tour with the sexy Liberal tour and our friend Steph Miller, for all the Steph heads out there, just hell of a resume that this, that this fellow has. Please welcome my good friend John Fugal saying. Hey, John.
John Fugelsang
Hey, how are you? I'm just celebrating the 90 year anniversary of Adolf Hitler saying that his movement professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. 90 years ago this week from the man who banned abortion, persecuted gay people and demanded the Bible be taught in public schools. It's so great to see this stuff come around again, isn't it?
Allison Gill
Right? Especially with that school board director announcing that he wants to put a Bible in every classroom.
John Fugelsang
Ding, ding.
Allison Gill
No. You're going to be sued and you're going to lose.
John Fugelsang
I've got to say though, we talked about it last week. But I want to give credit once again to the good people of Louisiana who have decided that a year from now they'll still be 49th in education, but their kids will know not to covet thy neighbor's wife. And I think it's great they're teaching the children of Louisiana public schools to never trust trump Christians by putting a list of rules on the wall before they vote for a man who's broken all of them. It's a beautiful system we got.
Allison Gill
It's very interesting. But you know, I did hear that adultery is on the rise in K through six schools in Louisiana. So we really have to kind of, you know, I mean, I think it's really important that we sort of nip that in the.
John Fugelsang
I'm glad you said it because someone's got to talk about it. Arts and crafts are a hotbed of graven images and no one's doing anything to stop it.
Allison Gill
Well, as soon as the 10 year olds get home from their work day at the factory, they're going to be inclined to cheat on their spouses, you know, anyway.
John Fugelsang
Yes. But at least they won't be bogged down with socialized health care for their coal miner jobs. We could do this all day. Right?
Allison Gill
Right. And then, you know, when we have child marriages to adult men, we have to talk about no fault divorce because, you know, you shouldn't be able to just leave your husband, you know.
John Fugelsang
Well, I don't know if you know this, but a 14 year old girl should never be allowed to adopt a child. But if she's raped, the state will fight for her to be a mom against her will. So it's a beautiful kind of Christianity our friends have been fighting for. And that really is what the debate's all about. You know, I mean, how great that we actually had a moment to maybe shift it from this old guy versus this old guy to actually tricking Americans because it's June into thinking about policy differences.
Allison Gill
Oh yeah, of course. And we'll talk about the debate in a second. But I wanted to ask you about Robert Morris, who was the head of Gateway Church, was. He was forced to step down after more information came out about him molesting a 12 year old. Then the church elders came forward and said, so sorry everybody, we didn't know about this until just like June 14th a couple weeks ago. And then the victim herself, the survivor of the molestation, came forward in a letter and said, actually, here's where I told you in 2005, and here's where I told you again in 2007 that this had happened, and you ignored me. And then, of course, this is after he had stepped down. But now there's emails revealing that he had written her letters when she was a young woman, emails threatening her with legal action if she went public with any of this. So we see it's never a drag queen. It's never anybody from the LGBTQ community. It's always, always somebody from the church, from the clergy, or from somebody who works with kids over there on the Republican side. And I was just wondering if you were following the Robert Morris saga and what your thoughts were about that, because, I mean, it's just always someone from the church, man.
John Fugelsang
Yeah, always. And it's another one of these mega pastors, too. This guy's especially egregious. You know, he's been out there for a long time, and he's someone who has made a lot, a lot, a lot of money off of this very curious kind of Christianity that doesn't really have much to do with the actual teachings of the Nazarene. Now, this happened years ago in the 80s, when he was a young man. He was already married with a child, and he was staying in this family's house. That's the part of the story that's kind of been overlooked. He wasn't like some young crazy kid. He was married with a kid. He was already a minister, and he was crashing on the sofa of this family. And it went on for years. And she has testified that later, by the time she was 16, he was trying to have penetrative intercourse with her, which she was not into. Now, this is a guy who put his hands on Donald Trump in the Oval Office and pronounced him to be a good Christian. He called this inappropriate sexual behavior with a young lady. It wasn't inappropriate sexual. It was the rape of a child. If kids got raped by soccer coaches as often as they are raped by preachers and youth pastors, it would be illegal to let your child play soccer. He dilutes the language and tones it down. He calls it a moral failure. He never Sundays, she was 12 and this woman's a grandma now, and I give her so much credit for coming forward, just like I give all the women and men who've come forward, the men in the armed forces who came forward to talk about sexual abuse, the altar boys who came out to talk about sexual abuse. These are the heroes for why we're moving from a victim culture to A survivor culture. But this came to light in 1987. He confessed it. They asked him to step out of his ministry and he did. And he said, since that time, I have walked in purity and accountability in this area. Except he lied about it in his own memoir. He said that he was getting too proud and he was too awesome in the church and he thought he was too great, and that's why he had to step away from two years. So literally, he lied in his own memoir, From Dream to Destiny, that he stepped down due to pride. And a decade and a half after he confessed to raping this girl, he helped launch the new Apostolic Reformation movement, of which speaker of the House Mike Johnson is a member. They had an event at his church in 2020 with Bill Barr and Ben Carson and Donald Trump.
Allison Gill
Absolutely shocking, but also not surprising.
John Fugelsang
And by the way, if I may, I believe in forgiveness. I mean, I don't get to forgive him for what he did. It's up to her to forgive him. He's never sought forgiveness. He sought to get away with it. It was a rape. It was a felony. He's a pedophile. He didn't come forward and confess. He got turned in and it was buried in the name of Jesus. You're right. It's always the same story. The issue of both Catholic and Baptist preachers molesting children. The ugliest part of it is that there are always other adults in the church who would rather sweep it under the rug. This child dealt for it for years with ongoing abuse, but he didn't get away with this alone. These guys who cram purity culture down our throat, throw around the word Jezebel to make women feel terrible about herself. And this guy, a child rapist, was on Donald Trump's evangelical advisory board. And by the way, the members of his church will happily vote for a rapist this November.
Allison Gill
Yes. And that is also, I think, an extremely important point and leads to a whole different discussion about why churches should, should be taxed.
John Fugelsang
Thank you.
Allison Gill
But let's talk about. Let's move away from talking about, like, actual victims, please, of crimes to perceived victims of wrongs, because we have Donald Trump, who now we're recording this pre debate.
John Fugelsang
We should point that out. Yes.
Allison Gill
And you're going to be covering the debate live.
John Fugelsang
Yes.
Allison Gill
Tonight from where we sit, but last night from where everyone who's listening sits on Tell Me everything on your SiriusXM show.
John Fugelsang
We're really doing this, aren't we? Everyone listening now we're commenting on a thing that hasn't happened yet. But you guys already know how the debate went and how my live coverage on SiriusXM went, which you can hear on demand or in a time machine if you travel back one day. Please continue, Ms. Gill.
Allison Gill
On demand is probably easier than time travel, you know, just saying. But, you know, here we have Trump. He should have a drug test. The debate would be rigged. It's three against one. So it's them and Biden against me.
John Fugelsang
Victim, victim, victim.
Allison Gill
They have to. Did you see the demonstration of how the muted mics will work? That they. They had to devise an entire fucking system to deal with the fact that he is incapable of controlling himself.
John Fugelsang
I can't believe they pulled this off. I mean, I can't believe they pulled us off for June. I'm of the belief, Alison, that we shouldn't just have like one or two or three presidential debates that are big events. I think this should be every week of the entire campaign year. It should be on pbs. It should be low budget. It should be civics, civics, civics. We should be all bored of it and everyone should know where each candidate stands on every issue. I think we should be sick of it. It's a miracle that Joe Biden's team got Manbaby to agree to this.
Allison Gill
I mean, I know they cornered him.
John Fugelsang
Man, Baby's people agree to this. And so let's be fair, a couple things. Again, everyone listening knows how it turned out. But Joe Biden also might have a problem with speaking after his mics turned off. And Donald Trump is very capable, very capable liberals of being very charming in a small room if he needs to be. He may have. Everyone already knows how he did. We all expect him to be a monkey throwing feces at the zookeeper. But I'm going to say, in the future, don't be surprised if he's more relaxed than it seems. I think it's a. It's a fascinating thing. It plays to Biden's strengths. And I can't wait for this interview to be over so I can go back in time and see what happens.
Allison Gill
I know, I know. I'm like, what should we talk about? Should we talk about it? It's not happened yet, but it's happened. Oh, it's Schrodinger.
John Fugelsang
Well, you bring up a great point, though. All of this talk about, about how we should pull out. Hannity was doing this. Bannon was doing this. They're all doing trial balloons. What the message is here is maybe it was they wanted Trump to drop out, but what it really is. They're trying to lower expectations for Donald Trump's debate performance. All they've done for a year is talk about dementia Joe, this old drooling fool walking around in a bathrobe and slippers who doesn't know where he is. And so all Biden has to do is show up and be competent, which is what Biden loves to do. The whole thing plays to Biden's come from behind strengths. But they judiciously said Trump was going to announce his VP nomination today. And that was for the same reason. They want a headline that will be bigger and more distracting than Trump's debate performance. So everyone listening to this right now, look at your headlines and see what are they talking about more, did Trump actually announce his running mate as he planned? And it takes a lot of attention away, or are the headlines really talking about the substance of the debate, not necessarily the performance. We're all looking to see which old man falls over rather than which old man is fighting for policies for the next generation of Americans.
Allison Gill
100%, given the media coverage of Bob Mueller's testimony to Congress In July of 2019, 100%, they're going to talk about the pizzazz. As Eddie Izard says, 80% is how you look, 20% is how you sound, 10% is, is what you say. And that's just gonna be the way of it, especially with the media coverage. And, you know, one headline we will not get to detract from whatever happens in the debate tonight is an immunity ruling from the Supreme Court, who is delaying, who is basically granting immunity via delay.
John Fugelsang
He's got the immunity. He got it.
Allison Gill
Yeah, he's got it. At least, at least pre election immunity. And that was the goal and it has been achieved because they could have taken this case back in December of 2023 when Jack Smith said, forget about the district Court, forget about the circuit Court, forget about the appeals court, only you, only this high court can decide this question. The Supreme Court said, no, no, no, no, no, no. We need to see what the circuit court says first. So then when they filed again for cert Harari, I thought for sure the Supreme Court was going to deny it. But no, they took it up and said, no, only the high court can decide this. And by the way, our question on this has nothing to do with what the Circuit court decided. So that whole thing that we said about, it's really important we get what the circuit court says. They didn't consider it at all because the circuit court said, we're deciding on this issue. This indictment, this set of circumstances and nothing else. And the Supreme Court said, fuck that. We want to make a rule for the ages. We want to talk about immunity for all future presidents. And it's obvious what they're doing here, which is assisting Trump in getting pre election immunity through delay. And now we have. We're spilling into July for the first time since COVID That's right. With decisions. So Monday and Friday of next week are decision days. Guess what day we'll probably get the immunity with the immunity ruling.
John Fugelsang
Listen, I say don't be surprised if they actually release it on Friday, the day this podcast drops, to also distract from the headlines of Donald Trump's debate performance, because that's the name of the game. You nailed everything, Ms. Gill. I have really no notes on everything you just said. It took them, what, five days to decide Bush v. Gore. They've known their decision in the immunity case for weeks. They've known it for months. They know that presidents don't have immunity. They know that our founders didn't want a king who is above the law. They know that if presidents did have immunity, Ford would never have had to pardon Nixon. They know it's all just a slow walk. And that's how it works. Running out the clock is giving Trump immunity. And Judge Cannon trying to disqualify Jack Smith and granting all of these delays is granting him immunity. No decision is the decision. And this Supreme Court couldn't be more compromised. They are doing everything they can do to make sure that the American people don't hear the evidence in the most important criminal trial in our country's history. And this Jack Smith federal trial is the most important court case in the history of this country. And they're making sure that Americans won't hear the evidence before Election Day. There is a chance if it takes three months for the judge to get it rolling, Alison, this thing could begin late September, early October, and I would have no problem having my election coverage interrupted by constant trial coverage. I pray it happens.
Allison Gill
Yeah, I should preface and say we don't know what the Supreme Court decisions released this morning, Friday morning will be. I'm just kind of guessing they're gonna push it as far as they can because they pushed the oral argument as far as they could. But we'll see. We'll see what happens. But there's a lot of other decisions coming out.
John Fugelsang
Indeed.
Allison Gill
And one I think that actually long term is probably the biggest. Here are all of these decisions coming on the Chevron doctrine, which is basically allows the Supreme Court to gut the power of federal agencies and experts in federal agencies so that they themselves can make decisions. They can be the doctors and the lawyers and the scientists and say that they know better what a bump stock does to a gun. They know better what mifeprestone does to a woman's body than a doctor does. They know better than the fda, than the anoint.
John Fugelsang
They're anointed. I mean, they're put there by God.
Allison Gill
Right? They're anointed by God. Appeal to heaven. So talk a little bit about. I mean, because we know that. But there were some other decisions that came down that I know you're interested in talking about. The Murthy decision, ID leak that is now officially out.
John Fugelsang
I want to point out when they say that they're. When they believe they're appointed by God. By God, they mean dead slave owners who demanded an electoral college. That's why they're on the Supreme Court. Because of these six, five of them were appointed by presidents who achieved the White House after the majority of Americans voted against them. The popular vote was against Bush. The popular vote was against Trump. Five of the six were appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote when they gained the White House. The sixth, Clarence Thomas, was appointed by a president to oppose the 1964 Civil Rights Act. So what this means is we, the people don't choose the people who choose our laws. Having said that, Joe Biden had a pretty good week with the Supreme Court. He had a pretty good, not too bad, kind of decent week. They had another victory where the justices ruled that the challengers in the Murthy v. Missouri case did not have standing. This is the goofiest case, this lawsuit claiming the government unconstitutionally coerced social media companies to remove misinformation. Like, literally. The Supreme Court had to say, no. The government of the United States is allowed to ask private social media companies to stop spreading harmful lies. That's all it was. And everyone outraged about this crimbing censorship. Censorship. They're mad that the government can politely ask companies to stop spreading lies. We don't call them lies. We call them prevarications or disinformation or misinformation. But Amy Coney Barrett wrote it, and she said that these people in Missouri and Louisiana didn't have the right to challenge the government's message. And all they did was say, hey, this is democracy at stake, and people are dying in a plague. Please don't let your platforms spread too much lies. It does not allow the government to censor. Alison. No, you Wouldn't know that. No.
Allison Gill
It allows them to fill out a complaint and see if whatever is posted violates their terms of service and can be taken down. That's it.
John Fugelsang
That's all it is. It's nothing.
Allison Gill
Trump did it with Chrissy Teigen. And I'll never forget when during a congressional hearing, somebody asked one of the Twitter executives, what did Chrissy Teigen, Christy Teigen, Chrissy Teagan post that Trump had such a problem with and looked dead into the camera and said, she called Trump a pussy ass bitch.
John Fugelsang
That's it.
Allison Gill
And they made the White House. The Trump administration made a very big deal about trying to quote, unquote, censor that. But I mean, honestly, if he wants to fill out a TOS report, just like I can about a troll on Twitter, so can the, so can the government.
John Fugelsang
And I want to point out, too, you know, it doesn't allow the government to censor. But you wouldn't know that from the shrill shrieking Nellies of the dude Bro Reich, because Charlie, what's his face. They all went nuts over this. Marjorie Taylor Greene. They all lost their mind. But all the court ruled was that those bringing the lawsuit didn't have standing. Someone with better standing could still actually have this happen. But what no one talked about was this was during 2020, during the COVID crisis and the presidential election. This wasn't the Biden White House doing it. It was the Trump White House. And they're saying Biden's trying to censor again. This is how the dumb flourishes. But this same day, they accidentally leaked for the second time, Alison. They accidentally leaked an abortion ruling. And the Republicans lost on this one. They ruled in favor of the Biden administration allowing emergency rooms to again perform abortions in Idaho when a woman's life is in danger. We had to go to the Supreme Court to actually make this happen. So this, this is for Idaho's near total ban on abortion. This was another 6, 3 ruling. But. And the abortion ban will be in limbo still in the state. It's partially.
Allison Gill
Well, that's the thing, is this is temporary because, you know, this is just, it's too soon for us to decide this. So they're kicking it now down the road to past this election cycle. And I think that that's why they did what they did. And if you've read Alito and Thomas's, and I think I can't remember the third dissenter, it's pretty egregious the way.
John Fugelsang
You think it was. Who do you think it was?
Allison Gill
It was Thomas Gorsuch. Gorsuch, yes, of course. Yeah, Gorsuch. But Amy Coney Barrett also sort of put together a roadmap for how this is going to go later when they get the case again after the election.
John Fugelsang
That's right. And I want to point out one thing really key. This comes the same week we found out from the JAMA Pediatric study that Texas, after they had their full abortion ban, saw an 8% rise in infant mortality rates. And people think, how is that possible? How's that possible? You know, because abortion bans force people to give birth to babies with congenital anomalies doctors know won't survive. And it used to be a doctor would say to a woman, I'm sorry, this is terrible to say, but your child won't survive. We should terminate the pregnancy. You can heal and try to conceive again. Doctors aren't going to do that anymore, especially in places like Texas. So they're actually forcing women to give birth to babies they know won't survive. It is huge trauma for the parents and the baby who will suffer horrifically in their short lives. And it proves how not pro life they are. Now, you got your Ben Shapiro saying, yeah, well, 100% of abortions, infant mortality for abortions is 100%. And that's when we say, morons, infants can't be aborted. You don't know what words mean.
Allison Gill
They don't know what words mean. But that is probably the point. Yeah, unfortunately.
John Fugelsang
So you're right.
Allison Gill
Gosh, we have so many different. With so many, so many rulings coming down, we're going to get Fisher to find out whether they're going to gut 15, 12 C2, which it sounds like.
John Fugelsang
They may let them do it before election Day.
Allison Gill
That's. But that's the thing. I think that. I think they want to try to put everything off until they can hear it again after the election, including Trump's trial. So.
John Fugelsang
Well, for me, Alison, there's one Supreme Court story this week that matters, and no one really talked about it too much. Sonia Sotomayor turned 70. That is the only Supreme Court story you need to know. Thomas is 76. Alito is, what, 73. And now a third justice has entered her 70s. That is why people need to vote for Joe Biden. Damn it. She's 70. Folks, make your plan. Check your registration, make sure you're still registered. Tell everyone you know and work with and hang out with the check and make sure they're still registered. Especially if you live in a swing state and get out there and vote because Sonia Sotomayor is 70. That's, that's the only headline for me.
Allison Gill
Even if it's, even if you're a one issue voter and your one issue is the Supreme Court.
John Fugelsang
And that is the number one one issue of all the one issue voters in this country. We found out this week. And about a quarter of people make that their number one issue because they want to criminalize women's reproductive rights, even though the Bible never does that. But three quarters of people who say they vote based on one issue are showing up to vote. And again, I know these polls are scaring people, but we have some of the worst rates of maternal mortality among high income countries, particularly for black women in states where abortion is banned or restricted. Seventeen states have banned all or most abortions and it's literally killing women. And I don't think the corporate media realizes Americans are still a bit miffed about this.
Allison Gill
Little bit. Yeah. And in addition to the 8% infant mortality rate, that huge increase in Texas, nationwide, 171,000 people traveled for abortion, which is more than double the 2019 number.
John Fugelsang
That's right. And the abortion rate went up. The abortion rate went up after Roe v. Wade was banned.
Allison Gill
But there were a lot of women, particularly marginalized women, black and brown women who would have otherwise sought an abortion, but because they couldn't travel, they simply didn't. Yeah, they simply couldn't.
John Fugelsang
And that's why they are forcing poor women to live in greater poverty.
Allison Gill
This seems like an 8th amendment issue to me. Seems like a forced labor issue to me.
John Fugelsang
Right. Well, it is. I mean, and it's against the UN Charter on civil rights. Forced pregnancy is a human rights violation. It's also, they're, they're fighting in a society based on freedom to force taxpaying citizens to be pregnant against their will. They're fighting for underage rape victims to have to carry and bear their rapist's child. We literally have a Trumpist America where it's easier for a rapist to become a parent with an unwilling partner than for two willing partners to conceive via ivf. That is the America they're building.
Allison Gill
Yeah. And it's the America they want under their pine tree flag. And they're upside down.
John Fugelsang
And if I could point out this was the two year anniversary of Dobbs, but that also means it's the two year anniversary of Clarence Thomas saying out loud that they are going to try to overturn the legalization of birth control and they're going to try to overturn the legalization of same sex marriage, which just turned nine yesterday.
Allison Gill
Yeah, absolutely. That's what's coming down the road. So everybody we know, if you're listening, you're voting for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. But maybe there's somebody in your life, somebody in your community who just isn't going to vote or isn't into politics or is a low information voter, which doesn't make them stupid. It just makes them a low information voter. I know that sounds like a dig, but it's not.
John Fugelsang
It's not. People have stuff going on. People are busy. That's why the debates are good. They should have more because we only hear about the two old guys when it comes to the issues. Ms. Gill, you know this Biden's fighting against 95 year old Herbert Hoover economics. He's still the young guy ideologically in this campaign.
Allison Gill
Yeah, 100%. So make that, make that your pitch to the people in your life. Hey, did you, if Trump wins, he could appoint up to four, four new Supreme Court justices we'll be stuck with in addition to the three that he already did. So keep that in mind as you go out and talk and keep that in mind as you go and listen to Tell me everything as often as you can on Sirius XM channel progress127.
John Fugelsang
Lady is so smooth, people. This woman is so good at this.
Allison Gill
Weeknights, 9pm Eastern, 6 Pacific. And of course, the John Fugal saying Show podcast, which is free wherever you get your pods. And it's so worth your time. Seriously, you got to check it out. Your guests are incred and you're on tour. How was Denver? What's coming up next?
John Fugelsang
Oh, man, Denver was great. Let me tell you this. Glenn Kirschner, he's, you got to hear his Chris Walken, the guy's a riot. Glenn Kirchner joined us the other night. We've had some great, great special guests join us on this tour over the years. I mean, we've had, I mean, Nancy Pelosi has joined us. Lily Tomlin's joined us. Ted Liu has joined us on the show. Adam Schiff, Rob Reiner, Martin Sheen. We're going to have some other great guests. Mark Hamill will be joining us on stage in LA for our election show on November 2nd. We're also going to be playing in Boston on the 13th, Atlanta on the 27th, here in New York City at Town hall with some very special guests. On August 3, we will be in Chicago, Alison, for the entire convention week doing a sexy liberal show on the 17th. And then I'll be broadcasting from SiriusXM every night, alienating everybody in the convention hall to come on my show.
Allison Gill
So you have not too much going on. That's cool. I mean, what do you do in your spare time? I mean, it's got like. Do you read?
John Fugelsang
What got. I got like. I got a draft of this book proposed. This book due in 40 days. What is this life you speak of? I don't know how you adults write books. All I do is just write and work and take drugs to not sleep. That's all I do at this point.
Allison Gill
40 days and 40 nights. That's poetic for you, my friend.
John Fugelsang
40 days until I turn this thing in.
Allison Gill
We'll talk to you then.
John Fugelsang
Maybe I'll. Maybe I'll go see a movie when that's done, right?
Allison Gill
Yeah, go treat yourself to a movie with some popcorn, see? All right, everybody. We will talk to you next week on feeble saying Fridays. My friend John Fugal saying. Everybody stick around. We'll be right back with the good news.
John Fugelsang
You're the best.
Allison Gill
After these messages. We'll be right back, everybody. Welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news?
John Fugelsang
Everyone?
Allison Gill
Then good news, everyone. Good news. And if you have any good news, confessions, corrections. You want to play what the mutt? Find the cat? What the hell is in that shell? What's the model of your axolotl? Opine and the bovine? What the heck? Wine or you know, any. Not just animal guessing games. You want us to guess flowers or plants or, you know, anything wonderful and beautiful that brings you peace, Send it to us, your pod pets as well. We love to see your pet pictures. And if you don't have POD pet tax to pay, you can always send us an adoptable pet in your area or, or. And we'll try to find him a forever home. Or just draw us a picture. We don't care. We just love the pictures. So please send them in. And then of course, the shout outs, right? We do shout outs to ourselves. We can do a shout out to a loved one, spouse, partner, kids, parents, somebody in your community that's doing incredible work, activism, maybe a small business in your community or your small business. We also love shout outs to government programs that have helped you or somebody that you know, including Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Affordable Care Act, CHIPS, PACT, WIC, SNAP, VA Healthcare, Public Health care that you have in your town or where you live or if you know somebody, and of course student debt forgiveness. We want to hear about that. I Send those right to the White House. And they love them. They love reading them. So. And you know, really just anything that's good, uplifting, wonderful updates. We need them. Send them to us dailybeanspod.com click on Contact. All right, first up is from Ian. Pronouns he and him. Hello. Love the show. I have some good news to share today. I successfully defended my PhD dissertation titled Feedback Mechanisms and Dynamics of Stellar Superclusters on Surrounding Dusty Clouds. That sounds really sciency, Ian. I took astronomy at nau. Had the greatest, coolest professor, but it was one of the it. I can say it is the hardest class I have ever taken at any, any learning institution ever. It was really, really hard. I took the class because the Lowell Observatory is there and the lab, you know, you got to take a science with a lab. I was an English major, creative writing, but you got to take a science with a labor. The lab was to go to the Lowell Observatory and the telescope on campus at NAU and look at stars. I thought it was just going to be rad. Stargazing, talking about the celestial bodies. No, it was so hard. There was so much math. So. Feedback Mechanisms and Dynamics of Stellar Superclusters on Surrounding Dusty clouds. Fascinating. So fascinating. Ian says technically makes me a doctor, which is very weird. Ian. I'm with you on that. When people call me Dr. Gill, I all. I always say I only make Republicans call me doctor. It's just. It's just that's a thing for me. So anyway, Congratulations. Wonderful job, Dr. Ian. Next up from Buzz Pronouns he and him ag please don't think I haven't heard your call for positive stories related to the va. I've just been waiting to have a good experience to share. But. But I may have found it. I'm sitting here writing this in a hospital bed in the Baltimore va hooked up to an IV with the best nurse I've ever had. By the way, we are probably familiar with lidocaine, which is normally used for localized numbing. Well, they put it in an IV bag and they're injecting it straight into my veins. My final VA disability claim included four TBIs traumatic brain injuries, two included skull fractures, a broken jaw, broken collarbone removed one of my ribs, partially collapsed lung, torn labrum and rotator cuff with four screws now on my shoulder, two fractured vertebrae, six herniated or bulging discs up and down my spine, torn meniscus in my knee, and other stuff I'm probably forgetting at the moment. That doesn't include the miscellaneous mental health issues common amongst veterans. Chronic pain is a real issue and finding the right medication regimen is difficult, especially because I refused to take narcotics. This is my second lidocaine infusion. After the first, I felt like I was 25 again. I was ready to go on a run through brick walls. I walked almost five miles around Fort McHenry with no cane or other assistance. Initially, I was mad that this treatment hadn't been offered earlier. I'd never heard of it. After a few days, the pain started coming back and by the end of the month was back to about 90% of what it was before. The doctor tells me it's a good sign and as we figure out the perfect combination, I should see longer lasting improvements. I'm not a doctor and this is absolutely not medical advice, but if you deal with severe chronic pain, ask your doctor about lidocaine infusions. Might be worth discussing. At one point I noticed my wife just staring at me with a smile on her face but tears in her eyes. I asked her if everything was okay and she said, I don't mean this to minimize your pain, but it's also difficult for me to see my partner in pain every day looking so pissed off at the world. This is the first time I've seen you with a genuine smile in a long time. I'm trying to keep my expectations reasonable. Don't want to get my hopes up too high just to be let down. But even if I only get a few pain free days every month, that would be such a huge improvement in my quality of life. I'll let you know how it goes for Pet Tax. These are my two dogs. Remember, no matter how big the problem is, you can beat it. You. You just need the right strategy. Buzz, thank you so much. Look at these babies. I've seen these babies. They're adorable. Thank you for sending that in, Buzz. All right, next up from Catherine Pronoun. She and her to be honest, I'm feeling dismayed about the amount of Colorado is a bunch of idiots posts and comments I'm seeing on social media lately. Our primary was June 25th. The truth is the Republican primary for Colorado District 4, that's Ken Buck's former district, was full with six bad choices, which means more people voted against Boebert than for her. Katherine, I've been saying this on Twitter like how could Boebert win? How could Barbara win? I was like, it was a garbage slate of trash choices. I'm so with you on this. The good news is Katherine says the Democratic nominee, Patricia Calvares. I hope I'm saying that right is a very strong candidate. She's supported by the afl, CIO and many of our local excellent politicians. If history is predictive, then we need to put a huge effort behind Calvary. I think Calvary's C A L V A R E S E. We have to put a huge effort behind her. Two years ago, experts thought Colorado's third was a lock, and then Frisch nearly defeated her. He was so close. She ran away to CD4 and Frisch will be turning CD3 blue in November. Yes, I remember I did ballot curing for him. I think it's time to take that lesson and apply it to CD4. Colorado gained a district two years ago. We have eight now. As such, the districts were redrawn by a bipartisan commission and CD4 now includes more urban areas than it did before. So please help get the word out about Calvary's and help to make Colorado all blue. Thanks for all you do for Podpet Tax. Here's my amazing dog, Wilma for a couple recent events. She's a Tibetan mastiff working livestock guardian, an excellent show dog and the bestest travel buddy. I feel blessed to have her in my life. Look at this beautiful, beautiful baby. Oh, Tibetan mastiff. Looks just like my Pyrenees. I mean, obviously, you know, not white, but the head. Gorgeous girl. Oh, there she is with a fan at the dog show. I love dog shows. All right, next up from Judy Pronoun she and her Today I have a confession and I thought I'd share with the beans community where I feel safe and I'm grateful that there's a space that speaks to the state of our country right now, especially me being a blue dot in a red, red area in South Carolina. So here goes. Today, while getting my hair colored at my local salon, I was waiting to process and my stylist took another client to cut his hair. He starts right away talking about the debate and can she believe that they'll be cutting off only the mic of Donald Trump? This is a rigged debate, he said. At this point, I can't think straight. Listening to him, I'm thinking, I don't think that's correct, but let me check. And I use the restroom to look up the rules of the debate and see as clear as day, both parties are subject to this rule. In the meantime, he's continuing to rant, but I don't know what about, which is fine with me. As my blood was boiling, I returned to my seat and the next thing he says is, you know, he's under a gag order. And he said the judge won't let him speak. Before I knew it, I heard myself saying, you're wrong. He was under a gag order to protect the witnesses and the jurors. And from there, it devolved him, saying that the media is all corrupt. Then I tried to debunk that. Then we're gish galloping all over the place. You get the picture. I could have handled it much better, but I couldn't stand to listen to the lies that I know are untrue. I'm a little embarrassed, but proud of myself at the same time, if that makes sense. Anyway, I'm just so glad I can share this with beans community that understands where I'm coming from and will forgive my not handling the situation the best way possible. Judy, you handled it great. You got to confront the lies. You got to call them out where you see them. Even if. I mean, you're not going to. You're not going to change that dude's mind, right? For pet tax, Judy says, I present my rescue Buddy. He's my constant companion and helps me pick the blueberries that we're lucky enough to have in our yard. We got Buddy. After the 2016 election, I told my husband that I needed an emotional support dog. If I have to live with that man as president, not only is he my support dog, I'm his support human. The one silver lining to come from the 2016 election. Can you guess his breeds? Well, he looks like part collie, part Australian shepherd. Very adorable German shepherd smile. I'm. I don't know what made me say that. It just looks like a German shepherd smile to me. Oh, amazing. All right, let's see what we have. Per wisdom panel, mostly boxer and beagle, then German shepherd and lab, and then mixed breeds include Asian groups, Chow chow terrier, and herding dogs. All right, I saw the herding dog, saw the German shepherd, has a German shepherd smile. I'm gonna take that as a win. Didn't see the boxer, didn't see the beagle, and I forgot about the chow. I think they should just always say ciao. Anyway, truly, thank you for creating this community and space. I appreciate you all. Absolutely, Judy. And hats off. Well done. Next up from Trey Pronoun. She and her. I just turned 52 three days after a knee replacement surgery. I'm lucky that I had some money set aside to be able to take the first summer session off work. I'm a Montessori guide, and I'm so grateful for all the love and support I'VE received from friends and chosen family I live alone as well as love and support across state lines from family, texts and calls, along with a chance to catch up on the daily beans. I thought you might enjoy this funny thought I had yesterday. When going up and down stairs, you're told think up with the good, down with the bad, leading with the non surgical leg going up and the surgical leg going down the stairs. I started thinking about energy and how I didn't want to call my surgical leg bad since that could potentially affect my healing. So I started saying up with the left, down with the right and quickly realized that's just like my politics. Well, now it's easy to remember. I'm including two pictures highlights from my birthday, one after my post surgery shower and my first post surgery home cooked meal. All those are so people really underestimate the value of that post surgery shower and post surgery meal. Making delicious food for myself is when I know I'm feeling good and there's nothing like a good shower. I'd also like to include a link to 2 wonderful pet adoption agencies here in Minnesota. Safe Hands Rescue for Dogs. We'll have a link for you and Feline Rescue Dog. Org no, excuse me, that didn't make any sense. Feline rescue.org not dogorg.org Allison so feline rescue.org for cats. We'll have a link for that too. Both are wonderful organizations. Thank you always for providing us with the news in a way that makes me feel sane. Lots of love to you all. This is Is that a bone in pork chop with carrots, broccoli, greens and and corn on the cob. It looks so good. Oh and there's a sticker. I took a shower today. That's fucking awesome. I love that. I love that. Trey, thank you so much for that submission. And our last submission comes from Anonymous Pronoun she and her Greetings Beans Queens. I have hesitated to write this because it's pretty bittersweet. Two years ago, my beloved spouse of 20 plus years passed away unexpectedly. Six weeks was all it took from discovery of his cancer for him to suddenly be taken away from us. We were left completely unmoored. He had been our anchor, the best partner, the most amazing dad. I was terrified. As a stay at home mom for 10 plus years and nearing 50, it was daunting to jump back into the job market. Especially this job market. But I had bills to pay for my family. A few people advised me to contact Social Security. I had zero expectations. But I made the appointment and waited a few months. You cannot imagine my shock and relief when the representative very matter of factly informed me that my kids would receive Social Security payments, the total of which would cover our mortgage and COBRA bills. Social Security meant I could take time to make sure my kids were safe and stable. And so was I before I found work. And thankfully, I received a job offer this year. We'll never be the same, but we're all doing okay now, thanks in part to this wonderful security net. And thank you for providing some of the best news coverage out there. Your blend of reality and humor is second to none. Love you all. For podpet tax, please find the very sleepy mama. Don't let her fool you. She is an utter mischief. Anonymous Sending you all the hugs and love. You're just a warrior. Thanks for all you do. And look at this beautiful kitty Mama, don't let her fool you. She's in utter mischief. She's beautiful. Thank you so much for that. And thanks to everyone for your submissions today. Please send in your good news for Dana. Send in all your baby pictures. I know you've been thinking about it. I know you've been on the fence. Go grab your baby picture. Send it in this weekend because Dana will be back on Monday. Of course we'll have an episode. I don't know how I'm going to get it written. There's so much to write for the Jack episode this Sunday, but there will be an episode of Jack on Sunday. And then of course, you can look for the bonus episode of cleanup on aisle 45 with me and Pete. If you're a patron of that program this weekend. And it should be really funny. Pete's always funny. But post debate, Pete is going to be Chef's kiss. So everybody again, Dana will be back with me on Monday. In your ears. Until then, please take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. Take care of the planet. Take care of your mental health. Take care of your family. Vote blue over Q and bring someone with you. Vote down, ballot all the way. I've been ag and them's the beans.
John Fugelsang
Refried beans. I like refried beans.
Podcast Summary: The Daily Beans – Refried Beans | Police Indicted For Uvalde (feat. John Fugelsang) | Jun 27, 2024
Release Date: June 28, 2025
Hosts: Allison Gill and guest John Fugelsang
Produced by: MSW Media
Podcast Description: The Daily Beans is a women-owned progressive news podcast offering social justice and political insights with a touch of snark, perfect for your morning commute.
Allison Gill welcomes listeners to the episode titled "Refried Beans," which revisits a past episode to reflect on progress over the years. John Fugelsang joins her to discuss current events, providing a blend of humor and critical analysis.
Supreme Court Decisions:
Notable Quote:
"This Supreme Court decision is sending the case back to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, effectively delaying immunity decisions until after the election." – Allison Gill (10:20)
Notable Quote:
"Arredondo had stoutly defended himself, saying he did know he had been in charge." – Allison Gill (13:25)
Notable Quote:
"I reject the verdict and I will be appealing," – Felix Sater (16:45)
Notable Quote:
"During a subsequent search, we found an additional 2,716 emails and attachments possibly related to your request." – FOI Officer (21:05)
Notable Quote:
"The pool is there for the what ifs in a world where the unexpected does happen," – Kelly O'Donnell, WHCA President (24:05)
Notable Quote:
"The Bible is an indispensable historical and cultural touchstone," – Ryan Walters, Oklahoma State Superintendent (28:15)
Allison and John delve into the implications of the Supreme Court's decisions on environmental policies, particularly focusing on the EPA's Good Neighbor Rule. They discuss how Justice Gorsuch's opinions and the Court's conservative majority are limiting federal agencies' regulatory powers.
Notable Quote:
"They want the Supreme Court to be the experts, taking over roles traditionally held by federal agencies," – Allison Gill (34:00)
The hosts critique political figures like Jim Comer for lacking transparency, emphasizing the importance of ethical behavior in public office. They also highlight the significance of holding powerful individuals accountable to maintain democratic integrity.
Notable Quote:
"He turned to real estate after he was banned from selling securities in 1999," – Allison Gill on Felix Sater's background (17:50)
Discussion centers on CNN's decision to exclude press pool reporters, examining its impact on journalistic integrity and the public's right to comprehensive political coverage. They argue that restricting access undermines transparency and informed public discourse.
Notable Quote:
"Kelly O'Donnell said, 'The pool is there for the what ifs in a world where the unexpected does happen,'" – Allison Gill (23:35)
Allison and John debate the constitutional implications of teaching the Bible in public schools, discussing the potential conflicts with the Establishment Clause and the importance of maintaining secular education standards.
Notable Quote:
"Public schools are not Sunday schools," – Rachel Lazer, Americans United for Separation of Church and State (28:50)
The hosts transition to a heartwarming segment featuring listener submissions. They share stories of personal achievements, recovery, and community support, highlighting the positive aspects amidst the challenging news landscape.
Highlighted Stories:
Notable Quote:
"No matter how big the problem is, you can beat it. You just need the right strategy." – Allison Gill in response to Buzz’s story (50:35)
Allison Gill wraps up the episode by encouraging listeners to engage with the podcast community, share their positive stories, and stay informed. She teases upcoming episodes featuring Dana Goldberg and discussions on the Supreme Court rulings.
Notable Quote:
"Take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. Vote blue over Q and bring someone with you." – Allison Gill (1:09:30)
Conclusion
This episode of The Daily Beans offers a comprehensive overview of significant political and social issues, from Supreme Court decisions influencing environmental policies and presidential immunity to local educational mandates intertwining religion and state. With insightful discussions between Allison Gill and John Fugelsang, the podcast not only informs but also engages listeners in critical conversations, all while maintaining a balance of serious analysis and relatable humor. The Good News segment provides a refreshing counterbalance, showcasing the resilience and positivity within the community.
For those who missed the episode, this summary encapsulates the key points and discussions, ensuring you're up-to-date with the latest developments and the hosts' perspectives.